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D335 (40135) Start-Up (Not as you expect) - 19.01.08
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ม.ค. 2008
- D335 is started for the first time after a period of being flat. The AVR was to be checked so Dave Peacock sets out to start the Type 4... 5th time lucky!
When the cylinder temperature increases and the rings start sealing off due to increasing pressures, the white smoke (unburnt diesel fuel) starts changing to black smoke as more of the injected diesel ignites. At this point, some cylinders actually start producing enough power to carry themselves, but others are still being motored. As starting continues, more cylinders kick in and the thing comes to life. What a great visceral experience to actually start these things in cold weather!
Enjoy while you can, Josephine Biden is ending all Diesel engines of every kind. To turn these cold motor takes lots of electric starting power , keep in mind, rods, cylinders, cranks etc are much bigger, , it’s slower so combustion ratio is low , the fuel puddles on the cold cylinders because of incomplete combustion, and the turbo is blocking air cause it won’t spin till the first real ignition happens and that’s when you see the first puff of smoke go from grey or blue to black. Then another puff, and another then the turbo finally spools up, and finally after 5. Minutes voila .
@@tomasneel1980 "Josephine Biden is ending all Diesel engines of every kind"
Complete BS.
@@beeble2003 Agree, he's the one that has over stayed his time.
it sounds angry in the start, to early in the morning, no coffee no cigarettes, and it is chill ;-)
Sounds more like it has had way to many cigarettes.
Hejsa min Svenske broder, hilsen fra Århus Danmark
straxx99 he ain't your brother.
Just listen to those turbos, they'd win x-factor, what a sound
And you sound like an idiot
Cold start on a typical January morning in the UK.
Don`t you just love it, no mater what sort of vehicle you`re driving!
Videos like this, and you guys who know about these incredible machines, just amaze me. As a hobby, I restore the old 2-cylinder John Deere tractors and have difficulty remembering the firing order :) I cannot imagine what it must be like to work on these grand engines. Thanks for posting this.
Dick Day
Norfolk, Nebraska USA
Remembering the firing order on a 2 cyl? doesnt it have to be 1-2
Yes. Note the smiley face following this statement.@@Knucklehead4400
Hey, the video is BACK!
This is still one of my all time favourite train videos!
Many thanks for this!
Rick - USA
Always loved the whistle of the fans and turbo's. Sunday was busy near my house for shunting, usually Brush and BoBo but sometimes something with a nose. I would watch for hours and stand on our bridge over the heat rising from the fans. Went to Rolls Royce at 16 and trained as a diesel engineer. Love those diesels. Thanks Dr Rudolf.
My neighbors had better be glad I can't get one of these in my back yard!
Zombie comment revival........
Just one?! 😉😁
Me too
Pretty much exactly what I did expect
Same reaction I had. I was waiting for something to explode
I thought that light behind the exhaust outlet was flames!!
Awesome video.
Love the start and clag.
These are the real locomotives.
Excellent ! thanks for posting.
That sound and whistle!! Memories!!!!!
Just listen to those turbos sing!
Edited *Incorrect statement*
PantherSerpahin huh. Ok, learn something new every day.
They're definitely turbos, made by Napier. There are 4 of them, each serving 4 cylinders.
UppyJC Now I'm confused, but I have to go with you based on the sound.
TigerDude333 WTF do you mean dude? Turbos are loud and you can clearly hear them in this video.
That sounds fantastic! Thanks so much for sharing, I could listen to it all day!
Looks like it was holding that smoke in it's lungs for a long time!
Youngsters seldom appreciate the sound and fury of enormous diesel engines. I was First Officer on a Danish sailing ship that had an Alpha 3 cylinder, air start, 750 rpm redline. In a pinch, t could be "push" started, or you could just start walking on the flywheel!
That sound just makes you feel good.
Would love to experience it first hand.
Wow! What a sight, the sound is great!
Wow I first listened to this vid 12 years ago & I still love it
Oh thanks man, that's an insane displacement.
Damn this engine sounds beautiful.
it's a wicked sound alright. bloody beautiful
I love that sound, I know the smoke isn't good, but it's beautiful!
Sounds like a giant monster snoring when it idles lol
Great sound !
Not heard that whistlin' since I was at Guide Bridge back in the early 80s.
Bring back the good old days !
Thanks for the vid. Just wish I had some of all my excursions.
Guide Bridge. Awesome location. The Class 40 sound is just about the finest I know of. Quad turbo V16. How good can it get?
Love the sound of those turbos.
Excellent !! amazing sound, a close second to the fab twin napier. Thx for sharing
That sound of 4 Napier turbos singing is just gorgeous!
thats not a napier deltic engine, its a v16 english electric
@@paulcatley2224 Nowhere in my comment did I say that it is a Napier Deltic engine. The turbochargers are manufactured by Napier, and this engine is fitted with four of them.
love that start up i have watched it loads of times love it
Class 40 shows how to 'REALLY VAPE'
ArcturanMegadonkey l
that whistle on tickover brings back memories i lived next to deltic lines as a kid in the 70's
We had English Electric diesels in Australia, and the South Australian Railways (SAR) had these 16 cyl 4 turbo versions in their 900 class, when maintained they started very quickly, probably in about quarter of a revolution, a great engine.
Glad to this vid back. Its an all time favorite of mine!
Amazing! beautiful sounding.
The sound of a Deltic brings my childhood rushing ack. I lived in England and loved to hear them go by pulling a train under load. What a sound !
This one is a Class 40 not a 55 (Deltic)
thats not a deltic its a v16 english electric class 40,
Brilliant! i had speakers up quite loud , i was kinda pretending i was stood infront of it what a great sound!
DONT KNOW WHY BUT I LOVE TO LISTEN TO TRAIN STARTING UP!!!
This whistle takes me back to Crewe in the 70's and also the North Wales Coast Line.
My mum and dad were on the beach, I was sat on Rhyl Station, brilliant.
I used to drive a fuel truck powered by a Cat 3208 which is a naturally aspirated V8. It was15 years old at the time and had spent alot of it's time idling. I would leave it running at high idle for about 15 minutes just to blow all the white smoke out of it due to oil setting in around the piston rings while it sat overnight. It ran fine once I did that. Likewise this tired old locomotive. Happy trails old friend.
I rode behind the "Green Howards" when I first went to England in 1980, London-Hull, there was nothing like that VROOM sound they put out...a Fairbanks-Morse x three, incredible!
Those turbos are amazing.
It is neat hearing that locomotive crank. Great video. Try to post more videos like this.
those are serious turbo loader units making this high sound, nice vid.
No problem. I'm far from an exoert, but I remember reading somewhere that the V-16 prime movers in these had four turbo's...thus the four exhaust stacks.
Sure sounds tough!
By the way, I'm an avid train fan, have been for many years. Will be putting up a slideshow of some of my pix soon.
Rick - Wisconsin - USA
That's exactly the sound I used to hear at the small local station near Blackpool called Layton station, when these things start sing their song you Never forget, it was great I loved it. 😊😃👉😲😎
@Triplex5014 Most diesel-electrics use the generator, some latter Alcos used an air-starter. My guess is that the first four or five tries here were done with the cylinder cocks open to prevent firing, in order to pre-lube and get possible jacket water out of the cylinders (a necessity with EMD's). When the last try comes, it fires right up. And I love it, as I said a long while ago, this beast's an Alco in quadraphonic!
Now that's one hell of a start-up!
used to drive a detroit v-12 that was just as cranky. Once it started and was hunting, go inside shed and keep dogs company until it warmed up and was idling normally. Neat post.
Cook thanks :) Man it almost looks exactly like this place over here in the states...amazing :)
Dam those turbos sound amazing
Man, I could listen to that hunting idle for hours and not tire of it! Listen to those turbo's wake up!
Sulzer V-16 with four turbo's if I'm not mistaken.
Awesomw video. Thanks for sharing with us.
Rick - Wisconsin - USA
English electric v16 not sulzer
that was a great shot thanks for posting!
i can smell the easy start from here :)
i could listen to that all day.
WOW, this is the symphony of power...
i love the sound that the turbos make
Those turbos sounds awesome!
Grant Gilbert don't they just!
grate vid from a few few years a go its lke its running on fire mote desial goood to see a
classic desial running and good to see a saved loco from scrapper
Oh my God - what a beutiful sound - music!
I want that for my daily commuter. The grumpy giant sound makes well worth rising 2 hours earlier every day to make for cold start.
Oh man, gotta love the sound of those turbos. I'd drive that around just to listen to them all day lol.
Imagine being woken up by that int he morning!! Brilliant :-D
Makes the hairs on my neck stand up! Beautiful sound
God I remember having to start a road full of those things on shed duty, winters morning and prep for a weeks running, still a nice engine to drive.
Aah, listen to those turbo's, gotta love 'em. Any vid of this one running under load?
love the "cklunck sound of a diesel engine starting when it is cold!
wow awsome i love the sound of a giant diesel i love the turbos sounds great!
VW clean diesel power at work.With cheat software removed.
Yeah, because your 6L engines are better.
Engine controls by Lucas, the Prince of darkness.
Add blue
Love that sound.
OMG. What a beast of a machine.
I had a cool dream one-time that I got to restore an old locomotive that wasn't all that big, so I only kept one engine in it and changed-out its drivetrain to a Semi-truck drive system and had that as "my truck" for a while.
Weird dream, but it was cool at the time.
Sweet EE music...never gets old! :)
it was just the nature of that particular one. this one is music to the ears.
Class 40 - used to drive them! Never had one this cold before thought, mega surprised the batteries weren't totally flattened.
I Love it! Are you sure it's not a "hit and miss" engine in it?!
Brilliant.
That was fantastic!! What a noise!!!
Nice to see some fire with all that smoke
Have always been interested in diesels. I imagine the torque out of that V16 must be eye popping. Since the generator is used to start the engine, does it also feed power back into the batteries to recharge them after the engine's running?
Sounds like my 1969 Cutlass trying to start in the middle of winter.
beautifull sound.
Do this on November the 5th and people would pay money to watch and listen. Can't beat cold EE's!
wonderful footage mate
It seems the prophecy on smoke breathing metal dragons was spot on. lol
When the camera panned to the right at 2:25 and showed front of the train.... I half expected to see some dude using a crank to roll the engine over....😋
Or you'd see someone with jump leads hooking it up to a shunter
@vai2iant : Yep it is 4 stroke. It's a 247 litre V16, 4 valves per cylinder, turbocharged, diesel engine with direct injection. It produces (correct me if I'm wrong) 2000bhp at 1000rpm.
These engines were not designed to start well from cold, I believe they have a quite low compression ratio to reduce peak pressures.
...just the sound of priming the pumps and draining the cylinders are music to my ears!
Great video Mush.
The best English Electric by far - love the Vee 16's
That is just a beautiful sound
Diesel stinks like hell, but watching these beasts NEVER gets old!
Here's a little known diesel cold starting trick I learned in the oilfield many years ago on pony start Waukeshau's: 1. Close the rack and motor the big engine to build up cylinder heat - no injection at all for the first few tries. 2. After about 10 minutes of this (don't overheat the pony motor) you start injecting fuel. 3. Result - the big engine starts much faster.
That is awesome.. you can just feel the grunt..
How can these and the deltics be so ugly yet so beautiful to the eyes and ears. Top video. It left me in tears. I felt I was hand cranking it (the engine that is). I'm exhausted. It's such a relief when you to hear it firing on all or almost all cylinders.
Ruston V16's. Same engines are installed on tugs, 'Shaldar' & 'Tirrick' where I work. I must get some video of a start up and post on here. They sound exactly like this when coming to life.
Instead of batteries, ours start with compressed air blasted into the cylinders in sequence to turn the engine, and are kept heated to a constant temperature, so fire up intantly, run smoothly, and may be put to hard work right away.
Listen to those turbos whine. So sweet.
Cold starting, old diesel.
Somebody designed that engine, then showed it to his boss for the first time, and he was like 'yeah this sounds like a really good idea. Let's build a train around it' :D
That's how I feel before my first cup of coffee!
@Mylitla Yep!, took all morning for my brain to fire on all cylinders :D
I don't even want to imagine the size of those turbos
Built in a time when silencers were for girls. Thank the Lord.
Great piece of video.. Thanks for sharing
It's a nice feeling but listening to the sound of that takes me straight back to the 1970's and my time spent dossing around Bescot with my mates, usually up to no good.
Don't know a lot about trains, but I like anything motorized. Hard for me to tell even when the thing is running on its own haha. Cool though!