RUSSIAN LOCOMOTIVE COLD START BREATHS FIRE! COOL! SEE DESCRIPTION!
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Not an EMD, GE or CAT locomotive, but these pulled a lot of freight in their day.
ACTUAL LOCO SPECS:
740 series engines from 1973 to 1989 were built.
Manufacturer: CKD Prague, Czechoslovakia.
Original serial number: T448.0 CSD
Power: 780kW (1060 HP)
Service weight: 72 t
Axle Bo 'Bo'
Allowed speed: 70 km / h
Czechoslovakia after the collapse of the locomotives of the CD, ZSR to have been.
Currently, many private railroads operated locomotive.
BIG Czechoslovakia, (NOT RUSSIAN SORRY I WAS WRONG) DIESEL LOCOMOTIVE FIRES UP ON A COLD DAY. LITERALLY FIRES UP! SEE IT BELCH FIRE.
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This is a T466.2 built by CKD in Prague. According to ZOS Zvolen, a company who rebuilds these locomotives, the prime mover is a K 6 S 230 DR also built at CKD; it is a supercharged 6-cylinder 4-stroke diesel with 230mm X 260mm bore and stroke, and produces 880kW/1180hp at 1250 rpm.
One owner! Well treated, garage kept! Only a slight knock on cold starts. No low-ballers!
what is this 2011 business
Don’t they knock anyway even though it ain’t cold start? I’m not hating or anything I’m just asking.
The flowing smooth lines of the design is what I appreciate.
lmao
A big blue block
@Przemek Mańkowski Or square blocks lol
@Przemek Mańkowski They probably made that design to achieve the lowest cost of manufacturing it, purely utility. Everything has the right to be ugly but, that Locomotive is abusing that right (or at least exercising the HELL out of it).
Bruh
Finally got it going on both cylinders.
The fire is caused by unburnt diesel being blown into the exhaust manifold from the cylinders that aren't firing and subsequently being ignited by the exhaust gasses from the cylinders that are firing.
so, just have a guy hammer the engine until it starts? genious!
xD
Boha, dyť je to bangle z ČKD!
Please read description. Gives all the specs and more.
ChME-2 is russian term for czech T458.1. This one is ČKD made line 740 which has never been exported to Soviet union, only to Poland. This one serves in Slovakia.
FAIL !!! - This is Czech (Czechoslovakia) diesel-electric lokomotive engine type 742
Johny Wieler FAIL! Read the description! :)
Thanks, just having fun!
740
FifaPavel Ahoj FavaPavel,
Máš pravdu, že je T448 ČKD Praha, ale nahoře na střeše "WWW.logotransslovak.sk". Tak je to lokomotiva na Slovensku.
mnoho pozdravů a veselé Vánoce
seddin100 Pravda, podle všeho je to na Slovensku. Jenom malá poznámka - uvedená webová stránka již neexistuje, zřejmě již firma zkrachovala. Ani se nedivím, uvedený snímek svědčí o čistém amatérismu tohoto tehdejšího malého dopravce, jelikož i práce s kolejovými vozidly vyžaduje dodržování určitých pravidel a samotná vozidla vyžadují pravidelnou údržbu (jako ostatně všechno). Pokud by byla lokomotiva průběžně udržována v náležitém technickém stavu a používal by ji řádně vyškolený personál dle pravidel pro používání, toto by se nestalo.
Fail!! Czechoslovakia isn't a country anymore since 1993. Is says Sk on the end so it's Slovakia
or an intense game of pin-pong....
sounds like a family of sledgehammers lives under the cowling
Fuel is burn in bad way...that damage the engine.
Władca Wymiaru LOL no. Those trains knocks like this since they left the factory... And they will run forever :)
Not as uncommon as you might think for older diesels. Alco 539's would do the same on cold days. It comes from raw fuel laying in the exhaust manifold and being lit by stray sparks. Its likely a product of a huge piston and relatively primitive injection along with very cold intake air temps.
this is locomotive 742 from Czechoslovakia :)
není to 742 ale 740 742 je T466 a 740 je T448 a 742 je rychlejší a silnější lokomotiva než 740
Please read description. Gives all the specs and more.
@@hrachovec_tomas ano mas pravdu ja to rozoznam len podľa čísla na boku a tu som to nesledoval do detailov
@@hrachovec_tomas Není tak ůplně pravdou T466.2 má rychlejší trakční převod (tzn.menší tažnou sílu)a menší adhezní hmotnost(64 tun,než T448,která váží 72 tun a výkon svorkách trakčního dynama je 780 kv u obou typů
This has been filmed in Soroksári út, Hungary. The red shunter in the background is a Class 448 re-motorized diesel-electric with a V8 CAT engine.
This is an old Czech dragon :-D
His Diesel power is 883kW ! In practice "only" 780kw gives the electric traction generator.
I believe the sound is part of the engine warming up and getting proper compression. When these huge engines are cold started, they don't exactly fire on all cylinders; hence all of the smoke which is unburned fuel. As the piston rings seat the piston begins to come alive and combust properly, which revs the engine higher and the smoke will disappear for a second or two, as more cylinders come online this happens more and more until it's fully started.
White smoke is unburned fuel due to low compression in at least one cylinder. Engine is in serious need of a rebuild.
I think white smoke is oil leaking into the combustion chamber from the upper crankshaft. Im 80% sure this is one of the copies of the fairbanks morse opposed cylinder 2 stroke twin crank diesel.
This is 4 stroke diesesel, but in very bad condition due to bad maintenance. Othervise this is very good engine for very hard duty
+Jiri Urban: Yep, I saw one today doing some shunting with heavy freight train and it was a real pleasure to hear its roaring :)
Wrong white smoke means that the strip that keeps the cilinders air and water thigt is broken so then ther goes oil an coolant in the cilinders and you get white smoke, black smoke means to much fuel and to less air
They're just testing out the new afterburner mod.
Thank you. I find most locomotive videos interesting. It matters not to me where this locomotive originated, starting of a diesel can be challenging. I work at a truck repair facility, and we work on various models of Cummins, Volvo, and Detroit engines owned by the company, I have seen flames out the exhaust, especially when an engine loses a turbocharger.
Can't believe iam replying to a 9yr old comment. Always wanted to work with heavy diesels..
@@kousikv2247 I have now retired, but heavy diesel mechanics and truck drivers are still in high demand, worldwide. Everything arrives by truck. People still contact me about work opportunities to this day.
@@magformyes, I retired 4 years ago and finally people have stopped calling me to drive.
Man that's some serious engine knocking! All kidding aside, there is something about the sound of a huge old diesel engine starting up, that well, sounds awesome.
the reason we seen fire coming out the exhaust is due to fuel not burning right or burning at all in some of the cylinders. that is why when diesels start up cold you hear a popping noise, that is the excess fuel in the cylinders not firing right or at all do to very little to no heat, until enough heat is made internally. once all the pistons are doing their equal share than it will sound uniform like the end of the video. if you would like to know more just ask
Is this a proper way of starting the diesel engine in given condition?
why does it go knock knock
Justin Martin Valves are not adjusted, but it's normal for those engines. They are knocking like this since they left the factory. It doesn't even matter, because they will run forever.
Martin Novák Thing runs like a 1 cylinder lombardini. If that's a v12 or v16 like most than it sure wasn't firing on very many for awhile.
Justin Martin It's inline six with a low pressure turbocharger.
Regardless of who made it...that thing is beat to death. That's a sick sounding diesel that's in desperate need of a rebuild.
Rich it is just cold. My 3408 Cat would sound like that too if it was that cold. It sounds like the rods are snapping.
sam maass It also breathes fire from the unburned fuel
I would be scared starting that thing for the first time!!!!!! =-O
That sound you hear is the engineer hammering away - trying to wake up the hamsters on their wheels.
i have a sneaking suspicion that's not how it's supposed to work
This is a Czechoslovak lokomotive made on Comunism in Czech republik in ČKD Praha as well as lokomotive CHME 3 by the Russians for their expences.
Well, 1st - it's a ChME2, in Soviet Union Classification, ChME3 has Co'-Co' Axes. And 2'nd - this loco not in Russia, you can see web link of transport company.
ČME 2 nie je náhodou hektor? 740/742 sa ani nevyvážali inam než do poľska. Však to sú "moderné" stroje oproti čmeliakom....
It's piston slap, essentially when the engine is cold the Piston and rings haven't made a tight seal in the bore, therefore, grey smoke as the oil that is passing the piston and into the combustion chamber burns off. Goes away once the engine reaches operating temperature and the tolerances close up. When the engine is old, the pistons can slap about in the bore all the time which speeds up engine wear and will end up causing other more serious damage.
I am electrician and work back in the early 90s whith the T 114 in Cuba ..that one is realy a powerfull machine...2600 HP and 120 tons full loaded with diesel. water and oil...v16 engine and huge generator...nice machine.
Bad mouth this all you want but I say it has a real good starting battery. :)
It is not Russian locomotive, but Czech ČKD Prag
ČKD Prague on Slovakia railway :D
Vtipné co ? :D ještě slovákům by jsme aj metro mohly postavit :)
Metro už v Bratislavě stavět začali, jen nějak už pár let nepokračují :)
Takže taková ta jako u nás Česká klasika :)))
No it's a pile of poo
what mehendricks said below is correct, also the engine needs the carbon cleaned out. Put it under heavy load for an hour pulling something heavy, and it will run good too. This type of loco appears to be a switcher so it does lots of short, light runs, perfect for carbon fouling.
This is not Russian locomotive, but a Slovak locomotive manufacturer ČKD Praha.
ho zei See description. Full loco specs there. Thanks.
This loco was made in Czechoslovakia and nick name of loco is Hector ✌
This is Bangle 740 Hektor its 720 , 721
+Václav Rys Presne tak, ale čo je zdrojom tých plameňov ?
+Václav Rys Mal niaky divný zvuk ale potom to trochu rozbehol.
studený motor po teplotu 5 stupňů celsia už jsem taky bral takovou lokomotivu a je to docela mazec . Motor ČKD má rád min. 20 stupňů celsia na start a na jízdu min 50 stupňů celsia
Dva dni dozadu som sa rozpraval s kamošom mechanikom z Ruska a povedal mi že tie plamene šlahajú len pri štarte a pri zmene teplôt pri štarte ,ale čo to spôsobuje mi neodpovedal ,pravdepodobne palivo vstreknuté do injectora v studenej komore exploduje až neskôr po vymrštení z boxu ,neviem to určite ,ale je to zaujímavé
ЧМЭ-2 это тепловоз Чехословакии. в Росии таких уже давно нет!
этот локомотив нет ЧМЭ2, здесь показан в общем аналогичный локомотив, но с другим двигателем (К6С230ДР, диаметр цилиндра 230 мм). Это локомотив типа 740, ЧМЭ2 - в Чехии и Словакии типа 721. В России до сих пор используется ЧМЭ2, но это, наверное, редкость. Есть актуальные видео.
Unburned fuel accmulates in the exhauster headers. Fairly common. I was on a Rio Grande Scenic train a few years ago in Colorado and it would spit a tongue of flame 20' in the air every time the engineer increased the throttle.
Za prvé, jak tato položka již elektrifikována, nemá smysl v používání tohoto lok. Pokud jde o motor, někdo nechal číslo dvě dekompresní páku aktivovat! (To platí otevřený výfukový ventil část tak, aby coÏ usnadní startování. To, proč to všechno "clag" na tomto jednom válci a comustion přes výfukovém potrubí a atmosférou.
Poznámka: poslední výstřel, žádný clag jak jsem suppse řidič konečně vzpomněl na uzavření (deaktivovat) uvolnění dekomprese. (Vznětový motor musí být opraven a prodán na někoho (jako pro mě) pro námořní použití a z použití železniční!)
IU zjistili, že většina lidí v železničním průmyslu nevím, správné zacházení s dieselmotors, který zodpovídá za takové špatné údrzba těchto motorů! V odvětví železniční dopravy musí jít úplně ELEKTRICKÉ!
Who's swinging the hammer :)
Sorry, it´s not russian locomotive - now it´s working at Slovakia and it´s made in Czech Republic ...
Radomir Jedlicka Please read description with all loco stats. Thanks.
***** No thanks. Don't force people to read description due to misleading title. Remove "Russian" or change it to "Czech".
Southern Pacific AC4400's were notorious for blowing 6' flames. They were turned up for max HP output. Power plants didn't like them pulling through the rotary dump houses. They were afraid of coal dust fires.
Back in the early 1970's I knew a Guy Big J4T tractor unit with a 220bhp Rolls Royce engine used send a flame out of the exhaust when pulling very hard TBH you could only really see it at night. Many thanks for posting.
Put an burning oil rage in front of the air intake work every time
the fire was just the trains way of telling you it's pissed cause you woke it up lol
If I was there as soon as I saw the fire I would've ran for the hills.
Vzduch je studený.Motor a palivo je zima.Bílý kouř se smíchá s nespáleného paliva. Tato směs je po celém výfuku. Když se první válec práce, plameny přicházejí do kolektoru. To dává exploze a ohně.
This is something most old diesels do in extremely cold weather. That is why NS and CSX does not shut down their engines in cold weather, but let them idle in the yards for overnight.
Some Trucks need to run so the driver can stay warm. While it isn't as commen, it still happens
***** How does that make you sick.. Did it give you a head ache. Heart attack.. Or did you get herpes from the Engineer. Please be more specific on your ailment.
It doesn't waste much, if any(depending on climate especially).
Big diesel trucks have big turbos so the truck has to run half an hour or more to cool it off before shutting down. Then when the trunk gets restarted, esp. in the cold, it has to run a good long time to warm up(very damaging to drive it with a heavy load while cold, and actually more damage to start it cold than driving hundreds or even thousands of miles, again, depending on temps) and while it's cold it's pumping out a LOT more pollution and using a LOT more diesel fuel than while idling hot. So what little fuel and pollution you save is tiny, and the driver then needs to rent a room to stay in. The more that did that the more rooms would be built with all of that pollution(logging, making lumber and other materials, transportation, lots of transportation, building, waste disposal, ongoing maintenance, electrical, gas, oil use to keep temps in unused rooms etc) And the truck drivers are using the fuel to power their "room" turning it into a big generator. It's not just idling all night doing nothing.
So, no, not so bad. And probably a lot better than building more rooms to stay in.
Most locomotives have had Smart Start installed. It monitors coolant temperatures, air pressure, and battery voltage. If they are at acceptable levels, then the system shuts down the diesel. If any of the parameters gets low, a restart is initiated.
No russia. This is czech 742.
Filip Peter Please read description.
+Filip Peter Not Czech but Czechoslovakian
+Filip Peter Ahoj Filípku ale hodně jí dávaj chudince. :(
2000davidulik
2000davidulik
Помпаж турбины. Распространенный дефект дизеля. И это не Российский локомотив, автор невежа!
Это локомотив завода шкода в СССР и РФ был известен как ЧМЭ2 в 90 его часто можно было встретить на наших дорогах! видео сделано в Чехии или Словакии!
Артем АкуловŠkoda did not make diesel locomotives Škoda made a major electric locomotives, this locomotiv made ČKD Praha.
In the Czech Republic have the nickname tomcat (kocour)
Great video, took a while to start firing on all cylinders. Nice flames.
В сознании многих иностранцев если что-то большое, тяжелое и страшное - значит русское :)
...told them to stop putting vodka in there...!
It breathed fire because it had to much vodka
😂 lol
No you are wrong it breathed fire because it had too much Slivovica. Czech and Slovaks drink Slivovica not vodka.
This locomotive is builted in Czechoslovakia, in CKD factory Prag. CHME2 is version for Russian rail and have 1520 mm gauge and automatic coupling.
Chme2 je ekvivalent 721, 740/742 (na tomto videu asi 740 549), pokiaľ viem, neboli exportované do bývalého ZSSR. Inak nesmelo tipujem, že 310-tkový motor by mal rýchlejší štart, pokiaľ by bol v dobrom stave.
nice and smooth
super sound
Чуть что, сразу - Russian. Ага, это личный тепловоз Путина.
Ether! Too much will kill even a diesel!
мне бы такие аккумуляторы на машину я бы без движка обошелся бы (((
132 prius owners don't like this video ^^
Sir RageAlot Prius owners like diesel because it is efficient lol
urbanturbine Prius drivers don't know shit about ecology and pool pollution, that's why they are driving Priuses
Ok Martin Novak.
It was made in czechoslovakia not russia.
It's got a nice beat and you can dance to it!
found it, it caries a" ČKD K6 S 230 DR"
with an maximum output of 883 kW at 1250 rpm
engine is shagged !.... unburnt fuel being ignited ... engine was running on one cylinder for ages .
because its a cold start, that happens all the time... there are numerous vids like this on utube... type: diesel locomotive cold start... and watch :)
tohle je česká lokomotiva 742
Chudák kocour.
souhlasím
+Jakub Vambera Normální zimní start... Dříve neměly předehřevy jakomají dneska.. :)
Jambi c44-9w za to mohou rusové né my, že se jim kocour trochu vznítil
А при чём здесь русские? Это Чехия
BTW
This is called flame diesel. Occurs when overheated diesel at higher rpm a diesel engine and its faults. The same flame diesel engine occurs at low rpm (as in this video).
It s not Russian or LAtvian locom. Its Czech loko T466 with engine K6S270DR where K= compersor, 6 = cylinder, 270 mm = diameter cylinder and DR = railway ("drazni" in czech)
Now is new number of locomotive CD 742. (Btw. Čau :D )
Anthony Magaddino
Ivanům zkurvenejm akorát nasrat do pazour, to řikám porád a na tom trvám. Stačí se podívat na toho Kocoura chudáka v jakym je zbědovanym stavu a za takovejhle start bych tomu Rusákovi co s tim jezdí utrhal pazoury a ještě ho s nima ztřískal. Jsem dalek toho nazývat tohle stvoření mašinfírou.
mefistofeles666111 Jo no, ať si jezdí svejma lokomotivama a ne českejma.
mefistofeles666111 Asi s tím neumí vůbec jezdit a startovat motor.
Anthony Magaddino
Najeť si nějaký video jak se jezdí v Rusku. Těch aut co zničej je přímo neuvěřitelný. :-D
No russia locomotive . Made in czechoslovakia . Locomotive 742 . cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lokomotiva_742
Lukko Valda Read description!
*****
Ok sorry, I have not read such technical data that is listed below the video. I am a fan of the railroad and the locomotive know. I'm just here to say that the engine is not from Russia. Once again, I apologize. ...;) Sorry for my English, I can not just English, we learn helps me translate google.
No problem, I understand. Thanks for helping me understand why people don't read before making comments. Have a great day.
Very Awesome Start up.with fire.........
it has slovak web address on the side, made in czechoslovakia. and thats no fail what youve seen, its sending diagnostic data to the party via cloud/s, fire is just DPF cleaning.
HEAP OF JUNK!!
wtf czech lokomotive
reminder of the times we had our own heavy industry and big companies :(
Smoke curtain and endless cranking brings back memories of our long gone family car, WV Golf Mk2 1.6 TD...
from past 15 years it's spitting 🔥.. wat u sneaking
русские любят чужие заслуги себе присваивать
This locomotive was made by Czechoslovakia for USSR - it is named CHME-3. I worked at this kind of locomotive. It is really good locomotive. Somebody says that it doesn't sound healthy...hoh...it sounds like this at the beginning, when all the system is cold. U can see that at the end of this movie there is no smoke and "bad sound" - that mean that the engine and all the systems are ready for work.
Bullshits and nothing more.
No, this is not a Chme3. These locos weren't made for USSR, hence they have no Chme- marking - they are 740 in Slovakia and Czechia, or 448p in Poland. They are smaller, they have also smaller engine than Chme3 (Chme3 - 6 valves with bore 310 mm, 993 kW; this loco - 6 valves with bore 230 mm, 883 kw)
I love this
yes this is czehchoslovak loco made by CKD Praha
Last time I had one smoke/sound that bad it was a gravity feed cat that ran out of fuel and being started on pretty much pure ether until the fuel caught. Wasn't my idea.
I've seen this before.... I was kayaking by a rail bridge in Thunder Bay, ON and while the train was powering up it blue flames at least 3-5 meters above the stack!
Love these backfiring, cold-starting, flame-breathing monsters!!
Sounds exactly like my old Ford 6.9 Diesel starting up at minus 40 degrees.
The flame and loud knock is from the either injection used to start it up
the RHYTHM of LOVE: PAKK, PAKK, PAKK; PUUUFFFF, PPPSSSSS......
Thank you, Mr. Smart , without your comments I could not live .
purrs like a cat swinging a wrench in a metal box
Seems like a machine firing mortar bombs and then exploding itself in vengeance
Wow, that old diesel needs an over haul. Kudos to the Eastern Block, they build shit to last!
these must have a hell of a starter motor
Smoke is from Trying to start on one cylinder ,the engines cold start device was pumping excess fuel in ,I can hear other cylinders popping as they almost burn it. . The flames were just the result of excess fuel in the muffler burning. Engine probably needs a set of new piston rings to get the compression up and make starting easier.
Methinks that the overhead line doesn't enjoy the flames coming out of the exhaust as much as we do.
Thats a nice cold start lot of clag !
It's so mesmerizing, usually I only watch cars, but do you allow me to use a part of your video? I will credit you, of course.
Super
The flames will either be down to unburnt fuel carry-over going into the exhaust ports, or cold-start ether. From the 'clonking' going on by one cylinder, my guess is that it is ether injected into the inlet manifold which is not getting to all cylinders. This engine sounds as though it is seriously down on compression hence its reluctance to start.up, a result of using ether to start them because the very high pressure damages the rings.
Selbige Baureihe wurde als BR 107 bei der Deutschen Reichsbahn der DDR im Rangierdienst im Vorfeld des Leipziger Hauptbahnhofes eingesetzt. Ich glaube, in 11 Exemplaren. Weitere Werkbahnen in der ehemaligen DDR, wie zum Beispiel die des VEB Zementwerk Karsdorf. (die spätere Karsdorfer Eisenbahn) Setzten sie ebenfalls ein.
Just like everything else in Russia, its broken.
But from what I've been reading lately... that's just the way they like it over there.
Its amusing to me that Apple is now worth more than the entirety of Russia's stock market.
No hate though.
17 trillion debt usa THE DREAM
17 billion in debt an still more functional than Russia. Companies built here worth more than Russia's entire economy ~shrugs~
enjoy ur obama :) 38% approval rate THE DREAM
Is that what they are brain washing you fellas with over there :3
His approval rating has never been that low and its currently 47, which still inst that stellar but there's a huuuuuge political battle going on right now. Resulting in quite a bit of stagnation but that's changing right now as Obama is overriding our obstructionist congress and house.
In all actuality, that's not what the conversation was about. It was about how Russia is pretty busted. Never quite recovered from the collapse of the USSR eh?
Now I'm not a "MURRICA YEAH" guy but I am full well aware that things are better over here in many aspects. Including legalized pot and human rights advancements (Gay marriage)
I know its not perfect, but whatchu got?
Impressive, well filmed, and unusal sight to capture, Thank you, I enjoyed it
I had a mk 2 Cortina that did the same thing. Did you mean breathes not breaths? Cool video.;-)
That thing must have one hell of a starter motor on it.
Unless that engine was serviced, you can pretty much expect it to be dead now. Flames mean its burning sump oil through cracks in the cylinder rings, so pressure is low.
Its not a cold start, - its a moment of desperation.
Just sitting there pumping raw fuel into the atmosphere... But cool flames!
Back in the late 70's I used to drive a Guy Big J4T tractor unit with a 220bhp RR Eagle Diesel engine. It was similar to that starting up when cold but it's party trick was when pulling hard up hill flame would come out of the exhaust. You could only see it at night but still impressive.