best guy here totaly objective shld be at the preverbial table every episode the guy knows stuff, esp eng stuff, the other guys sometimes say such stupidities i dont like that, i like elises approach the best marques seems like a technoking loyal subject compared to him, i hope for the access, but it doesnt seem that way
Hey team! Raising the voltage decreases the CURRENT that is being pushed through the wires. This works by keeping the wattage the same. P=I×V. I came here from Spotify to comment, because nothing drives me more nuts than someone correcting someone else with wrong information. When it comes to the drive train, power is performance, and Watts are power
The 7 keys episode is my introduction to this podcast and I can’t stop watching since. You guys makes tech so much more fun to consume and listen to every week
53:00 weird complaint. You can't see the corners of the Model 3 hood either. You just get a feel for the size of the vehicle. Takes like 5 miles to get used to. Also, front camera can be turned on at any time.
The 48 Volt system is by far the most impressive and innovative thing about the car. The steering is also very interesting along with the new battery pack
Agreed. In ten years most new car designs will be 48V. Steer by Wire is very innovative as well. In ten years I expect a lot more Steer by Wire, but it still won't be most designs.
About the no mirrors on the cyber truck, there are laws in a majority of US states that mandate you have at least one functioning mirror that has to see 200 ft behind you (don’t quote me on the distance). If you have the bed cover down and the mirrors off, you are subject to being pulled over as a camera is not sufficient by law. I drive a jeep wrangler and constantly take my mirrors off and have had issues in the past.
Drive by wire is completely underestimated. It is an important step direction full autonomy. It announces full autonomy. in the meanwhile it is from a production point of view a blessing. You can produce much easiere LHD and RHD cars. Or even cars with the steering wheel in the middle. And no steering wheel at all.
In my MX I really just use the cameras. Removing the mirrors will add significant range - something like 5%. I will probably remove mine when I get my CT
7 keys to the internet was what got me into this podcast. Loved all of the David episodes. Learn a lot. Still love everyone else too. Just those ones are extra juicy.
It’s interesting to compare this podcast’s discussion on the Cybertruck with the Carmudgeon podcast about the Cybertruck. Jason Cammisa had an opposing view of the truck, where he points out high levels of innovation and what those implications will mean for the industry at large. Overall, I’m happy the vehicle exists and Marques got to drive it!!
52:45 David says, "They should do that preemptively..." YES, ABSOLUTELY! It's unbelievable that this isn't a feature in the current production model. Negligent, even.
I do the 'look right to merge left' in my Model 3 because the blindspot camera is on the center screen so it's easier to glance down to the screen to make sure no one's in my blind spot. I think the mirrorless CT is going to be fine.
It's an incredible innovative truck. It's like the Model S. You think it's one thing (a family sedan), but it's actually good at nearly everything within the limits of its size and form. Same with the CT: offroading, hauling, work truck, family hauler, road tripper, dragging fancy sports cars, camping, baja racing....it'll do them all VERY well.
Yeah - and also Marques's claim that "all the numbers are worse"? Ground clearance (all trims)? AWD range? AWD and RWD towing? AWD acceleration? Feature lists (rear screen, rear steering, etc)? Like, this statement is abjectly untrue. It was mainly trimotor/beast that lost stats, but it gained acceleration, and if you're buying the top performance trim, that's what you care about. Also, it's bed isn't the same size as the Lightning; it's half a foot longer (at least at the base).
Not at all surprised about the ICANN episode being the most shared. It's the episode with which I started watching AND it's my all time favourite episode!
You have to have a driverside mirror in some states. You can get pulled over and ticketed in some states if you don’t have a driverside mirror. You can also fail an inspection if you have no mirrors. Obviously could be different state to state.
I’ve personally shared both the 7 Keys and Secret History of the Internet episodes with a bunch of friends as well as rewatched them multiple times!!! Those two are easily my favorite episodes and everyone I showed them to has loved them. I’m not surprised at all that people on Spotify also loved them.
Trivia questions for this episodes should have been just based on Spotify Wrapped. Like what is the most listened to episode of this year or which episode did listeners go back to the most
The dual motor range was announced as 300mi and is now shipping as 340mi. So the most popular trim has significantly higher range than advertised. Plus features like steer by wire, rear steering, front trunk etc that weren’t in the announcement.
Yes. To be clear, Tesla separated range and trim on this product, similarly to the SEXY lineup. Granted, 1st trim has a smaller battery because they need to cut down the cost. 2nd and 3rd trim have the same battery size. The differentiator is the power, not the energy. A range extender is available to get to ~470 miles, which is close to 500. I predict that in 2 years, with refinements of the 4680, that will become 500 miles. The only issue is the shape of the battery, which downgrades the usability of a flat bed. There could be a way to do a range extender with a different shape, allowing a flat bed.
@@julienvm Yes, absolutely correct. I was referring to Marques stance in the intro that Tesla for the first time didn’t hold any of its promises. And as you can see, the most criticized is the range, which in fact is not that far away fr announcement: 340 beating 300. And 470 close to 500. Performance and features are also more than announced, including really useful things like powered frunk, vehicle-to-home, rear seat screen, etc. Those plus inflation plus general macro economics increased the price (which is totally in line with “competition”), which frustrates people. But Marques saying that Tesla broke all its promises for the first time is plain wrong.
I think the 48V and wiring redesign to reduce weight is probably the biggest leap ahead the CyberT represents. OEMs have been trying for 30 years and they've been hemming and hawing all the time waiting for someone else to blink first.
@34:00 id love to get your guys take on Jason Camissa's thoughts on the cyber trucks innovation next week (just came from the carmudgeon show eppisode on the cyber truck and as one of the like 4 other people to be at the event he feels is a pretty fundamentaly revolutionary product for the car industry)
The description of not being able to see the front of the truck sounds almost exactly like my experience with minivans. I’ve had several and you just have to get used to understanding where the nose is.
While I appreciate this perspective from non-engineers, you guys are wrong from an innovation perspective. The truck introduces a lot of under-the-hood evolutions that make quite a bit of difference in terms of capability. Jason Cammisa's review does a pretty good job of delving into those.
Fully agree. The 48 volt system, the drive by wire…. Those alone are humongous innovations that allow the entire automobile industry, EV, ICE or Hybrid, to move forward. I personally believe the gigacasting, the exoskeleton and the use of stainless are huge innovations as well. As a truck owner whose 5 year old truck started getting rust bubbles (just before I replaced it) I can tell you I’m sick and tired of trucks that look tough but frankly are designed around planned obsolescence. Further more, I don’t think enough emphasis is put on crash avoidance and related safety software making non-occupant safety less of a concern. The point is that if you can make it far less likely that you collide with anything in the first place, then the effects of those collisions are less of a concern. The crash safety for the occupants is about protecting them from the vehicles that don’t have this sort of software. Perception is not always reality. If that truck was effectively a 6500lb Ginsu knife…. Would it matter if in its entire life span it never cut a single person or thing? All of these criticisms seem to be ill examined, under-informed “what if”s
Agreed, this is an uncommon L for Marques. Everyone expected this truck to be skin deep. A controversial design wrapped around a model y's bones. Sure it's expensive right now, remember Tesla isn't afraid to reduce the price of their vehicles, and the range isn't there but it has a ton of substance to it to be excited about. And that meat is going to affect the rest of the s 3xy lineup, which is pretty exciting.
Trains like BART screech when going around corners when those corners are too tight for the conical wheel shape to compensate and the wheel flange rubs against the track. But because of the shape of the track and wheel, trains don't need differentials or thrust vectoring. Practical engineering just did a video about why train wheels and tracks are designed the way they are, you should check it out!
Very nice explanation! I know BART even has special wheelsets designed to reduce flange squeal, and in Boston they use both graphite flange lubricators and greasing points on tight turns. Wheel slip due to lack of differential might cause some noise, but even if they had differentials flange squeal can be very loud.
Regarding the Spotify wrapped part, while I watch a lot of tech TH-cam, you guys are the only tech podcast I listen to/watch. So I fall under the top genres for listeners are not tech group. I really like the whole MKBHD/Studio crew and don’t feel like listening to any other tech podcasts.
Great analysis of the cyber truck fellas…. Few crucial things on the innovation front you missed. The single largest casting (both front and rear) in a passenger vehicle. Steer by wire in a commercial truck and all the benefits that come with 48 volts. Also…. The glaring obvious… they have had to come up with a new composite of metal to build the truck…that’s a big one. So yeah… a few innovations, and that’s why it felt so solid when you hit those bumps…..
The 240V outlet in the bed is a NEMA 15-50 like in an electric range. There are other 240V outlets so this is important. Windshield wiper - My 1977 VW Scirocco had a single wiper. IT was fine.
45:30 not only strength of the motor to push against all of that leverage, but then if there's any "upward" force like ice build up on the passenger's side, the long lever arm will cause the wiper to pull up from the glass on the drivers side too. The wiper will ride on top of any ice rather than "scraping it" away
Windshield wipers are not designed to remove ice. Even if they had enough power, they rubber would get ripped to pieces very quickly. Having spent most of my life with ice on my windshield in the morning it’s clear that that has to be scraped off. Once the truck gets going, the defrosters keeps the windshield warm enough that there is no “ice build up”. That’s the job of the defroster.
There are plenty of vehicles where it's hard for you to place the front. Jaguar E Type, or any low slung front end ports car. I'd rather that front than some common large front truck grill. Also i love how it doesn't even need side impact beams.
The Cybertruck is so unique and has a practical capability. However, at this point it is not for me but there are at least two features I especially like. The Drive-by-Wire ability is so terrific where you can get a full wheel turn by only moving the steering wheel about one half turn. Also, the steering wheel itself is fabulous in that it is somewhat square and you can more clearly see over the steering wheel. You can also easily place your hands on the mostly flat top part of the wheel for a better position to drive as well as to comfortably rest your hands on the mostly flat bottom part of the wheel while in FSD or just cruising without it on…… so Terrific …. It would be Great if TESLA would offer these features on all of their vehicles. I am hopeful the new items will be available for the line up in the near future.
literally just came from watching the MKBHD 40minute video of the CyberTruck! So dope great video and amazing to see Ellis on the big table We should have one episode where Marques is in the Adam's spot haha!
I would say the cybertruck is innovative in a couple ways: The steer by wire and the rear wheel steering, the 48 volt construction, and the exterior steel panels which add to the torsional stiffness, the built in tonneau cover rated for 300 lbs, the door handles. Pretty sweet.
MS Edge Copilot says: The atmosphere is not part of geology, but it is closely related to it. Geology is the study of the physical features and processes of the Earth, such as rocks, minerals, volcanoes, earthquakes, and plate tectonics. David was correct!
To say “The Cybertruck is not innovative” is way off! It’s the 1st truck to disrupt the truck design in a 100 years! 1st mass produce vehicle to offer drive by wire, 1st vehicle to use 48v electrical, 1st massed produced bullet proof truck, 1st truck to offer FSD, 1st truck to be faster than any mass produced sports car, 0 to 60:in 2.6 seconds is insane! This truck is truly next level and arguably the most innovative mass produced vehicle on the market!
@19:00 Marques, with respect if we're nit picking the good, the bad and the not so ugly, it delivers 0-60 at 2.6sec. In the Drag Racing World, 1/8 mile and 1/4 mile sport, every 1/100th of a sec, let alone 1/10 of a sec can make for the win or lose!
This is going to be insurance companies' worst nightmare. The exterior structure is going to be a fortune to replace, not to mention that giant pane of glass. Also, I feel like those steel panels are going to be metal bladed guillotines that absolutely bite into and decimate other vehicles.
@@MylesKillis from what I've read that's not the case and these are very expensive to manufacture. Look at AEV's hot stamped boron steel skid plates as another example. Plus getting pristine stainless steel panels that large can't be easy. You can't just replace a small body piece so you're always replacing a large piece of the vehicle's structure, hence more expensive. It's also a unibody that gets a lot of its structural integrity from those exterior steel panels (they originally wanted it to be an exoskeleton). I'm having a hard time imagining a crash above 45 MPH where the vehicle isn't completely totaled or misaligned. I mean, I didn't engineer it, but it's got to be hard to build crumple zones out of massive stainless steel panels that don't transfer the force of impact into the rest of the structure. I know they crash tested it to not kill you, but that doesn't mean the vehicle won't be totaled after every decent crash. I don't think Tesla cares if you have to buy a new Tesla. That being said, I haven't seen the data, so all this is just speculation until a bunch are driving around and there's real world data to work with.
21:19 "when this truck was announced years ago it launched into a different world then we have now" Yeah, back then we laughed at it being bulletproof, now that's a great feature.
"Loose, slow, boaty" is WVFRM Podcast description of the Ford Lightning while driving home after reviewing the Tesla Cybertruck. Thats very objective considering their high praise for the lightning.
i worked as production artist for an app that did what casetify did to dbrand, and you’re almost right about how that went down, but it wasn’t an intern who decided to plagiarize - it was the people in charge of the product who right clicked to save as. casetify the company definitely did it intentionally. the production artists at the bottom were probably against it (if they knew what was going on), but needed to get a paycheck.
I hear what you’re saying, but saying this truck isn’t innovative is asinine. Ignore how it looks and focus on: 1: 48v chassis architecture. NO other manufacturers have been able to pull this off, something that has been a priority for decades now. 2: steer by wire. This is the first vehicle application of steer by wire ever. Again, this has been a manufactures dream for decades, but these engineers were the first to do it 3: the single piece cast aluminum front and rear structures are not only the biggest aluminum castings ever in automotive but also some of the largest castings ever 4: stainless steel body panels as structural elements. This has simply never been done in automotive and is the reason, along with the castings, why this truck is so solid, as you mentioned. Huge fan of Marques (cool seeing you on Good Good). Ellis seems like his brain is missing a few wrinkles, but overall great podcast. Congrats on being 1 of 3 guys that got it for review!!
The Lexus RZ is steer-by-wire, there are others but it hasn't been particularly popular because it's hard to get the feel right. Try again. (Also 48V isn't fundamentally hard, it just hasn't been super convenient or needed because cars used 12V batteries and didn't usually have high-power electrical outlets (because they wouldn't have the alternator / battery to power them anyway.)
31:16 RE: Side mirror law = California Vehicle Code clearly states you need side mirrors. It reads "Every motor vehicle subject to registration in this state, except a motorcycle, shall be equipped with not less than two mirrors, including one affixed to the left-hand side."
Marques, at 40:00 the buttons are on the B and C pillar, not the A pillar. A pillar is between the front windshield and the front row B pillar is between the front and back row C is between back row and rear or another row which is then another pillar
ELLIS AT THE BIG TABLE, FINALLY!!!
Im 40 minutes in and I just realized 😂
best guy here
totaly objective
shld be at the preverbial table every episode
the guy knows stuff, esp eng stuff, the other guys sometimes say such stupidities
i dont like that, i like elises approach the best
marques seems like a technoking loyal subject compared to him, i hope for the access, but it doesnt seem that way
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Hey team! Raising the voltage decreases the CURRENT that is being pushed through the wires. This works by keeping the wattage the same. P=I×V. I came here from Spotify to comment, because nothing drives me more nuts than someone correcting someone else with wrong information. When it comes to the drive train, power is performance, and Watts are power
At 26:00
I came in here to say the same thing.
These guys don’t know sht
Yea we don’t like him😅
I will only recover from this when they correct this at the next podcast 😮💨😂
Same here😂
Oh Marques wears a christmas sweater from Windows too, very nice!
The 7 keys episode is my introduction to this podcast and I can’t stop watching since. You guys makes tech so much more fun to consume and listen to every week
Same
Finally! Adam and Ellis have their own mics 😂
53:00 weird complaint. You can't see the corners of the Model 3 hood either. You just get a feel for the size of the vehicle. Takes like 5 miles to get used to. Also, front camera can be turned on at any time.
Not cool
Exactly
The 48 Volt system is by far the most impressive and innovative thing about the car. The steering is also very interesting along with the new battery pack
Steering is a recipe for flipped cyber trucks in my opinion. Jerking the wheel on the highway will be horrible
@@Newtperc I'm pretty sure the wheel will adapt to the input.
Agreed. In ten years most new car designs will be 48V. Steer by Wire is very innovative as well. In ten years I expect a lot more Steer by Wire, but it still won't be most designs.
@@SeekoGT has that been reported? Or are you speculating?
@@Newtperc pure speculation
About the no mirrors on the cyber truck, there are laws in a majority of US states that mandate you have at least one functioning mirror that has to see 200 ft behind you (don’t quote me on the distance). If you have the bed cover down and the mirrors off, you are subject to being pulled over as a camera is not sufficient by law. I drive a jeep wrangler and constantly take my mirrors off and have had issues in the past.
Miss you Andrew congrats on fatherhood!!
Drive by wire is completely underestimated. It is an important step direction full autonomy. It announces full autonomy. in the meanwhile it is from a production point of view a blessing. You can produce much easiere LHD and RHD cars. Or even cars with the steering wheel in the middle. And no steering wheel at all.
It's the weekend! UK guys! Plus It's a Cybertruck Weekend! Who loves a 40 mins marques video + WVFRM on the same day!
I have a Model 3, and the blind spot cameras make other vehicles look MUCH farther away. I use both the cameras and the mirror when changing lanes.
In my MX I really just use the cameras. Removing the mirrors will add significant range - something like 5%. I will probably remove mine when I get my CT
Glass is glass and glass breaks - Jerry rig everything
Exactly what I was thinking about the windshield...bet it's $5k to replace too
Everything breaks if you surpass its tensile strength. What’s your point lol
The amount pf people that will throw rocks at it to find out will be troubling
@@leeward6762probably more it was $5K to replace my panoramic sunroof 🤦🏽♀️
@@LemironStarling damn
7 keys to the internet was what got me into this podcast. Loved all of the David episodes. Learn a lot. Still love everyone else too. Just those ones are extra juicy.
It’s interesting to compare this podcast’s discussion on the Cybertruck with the Carmudgeon podcast about the Cybertruck. Jason Cammisa had an opposing view of the truck, where he points out high levels of innovation and what those implications will mean for the industry at large. Overall, I’m happy the vehicle exists and Marques got to drive it!!
Jason is an expert on cars. Marques is an expert in technology. That explains most of the difference.
@@brianw8165Jason is also an engineer, Marques is Marques
52:45 David says, "They should do that preemptively..." YES, ABSOLUTELY! It's unbelievable that this isn't a feature in the current production model. Negligent, even.
I do the 'look right to merge left' in my Model 3 because the blindspot camera is on the center screen so it's easier to glance down to the screen to make sure no one's in my blind spot. I think the mirrorless CT is going to be fine.
The visualization on screen plus the camera is more reliable than looking out of a non-Tesla window with blind spots
Small note: I think you meant B and C-Pillars, A-pillar is the one that touches the windshield and side view mirrors (typically)
I listen to this on Spotify. Just came here to comment this 😋
It's an incredible innovative truck. It's like the Model S. You think it's one thing (a family sedan), but it's actually good at nearly everything within the limits of its size and form. Same with the CT: offroading, hauling, work truck, family hauler, road tripper, dragging fancy sports cars, camping, baja racing....it'll do them all VERY well.
I feel like you guys missed on the mark on the cybertruck innovation. As others mentioned, Hagerty's vid outlines all of them pretty well
Yeah - and also Marques's claim that "all the numbers are worse"? Ground clearance (all trims)? AWD range? AWD and RWD towing? AWD acceleration? Feature lists (rear screen, rear steering, etc)? Like, this statement is abjectly untrue. It was mainly trimotor/beast that lost stats, but it gained acceleration, and if you're buying the top performance trim, that's what you care about.
Also, it's bed isn't the same size as the Lightning; it's half a foot longer (at least at the base).
Not at all surprised about the ICANN episode being the most shared. It's the episode with which I started watching AND it's my all time favourite episode!
Portland, JAMAICA in the Building!!! 👑🇯🇲🔥💥🌟⭐💯💎
You have to have a driverside mirror in some states. You can get pulled over and ticketed in some states if you don’t have a driverside mirror. You can also fail an inspection if you have no mirrors. Obviously could be different state to state.
I’ve personally shared both the 7 Keys and Secret History of the Internet episodes with a bunch of friends as well as rewatched them multiple times!!! Those two are easily my favorite episodes and everyone I showed them to has loved them. I’m not surprised at all that people on Spotify also loved them.
With the hundreds of huge things that have happened since the last time you did over/underrated, I honestly think it’d be really cool to see a sequel!
Trivia questions for this episodes should have been just based on Spotify Wrapped. Like what is the most listened to episode of this year or which episode did listeners go back to the most
The dual motor range was announced as 300mi and is now shipping as 340mi. So the most popular trim has significantly higher range than advertised. Plus features like steer by wire, rear steering, front trunk etc that weren’t in the announcement.
Yes. To be clear, Tesla separated range and trim on this product, similarly to the SEXY lineup.
Granted, 1st trim has a smaller battery because they need to cut down the cost.
2nd and 3rd trim have the same battery size.
The differentiator is the power, not the energy.
A range extender is available to get to ~470 miles, which is close to 500.
I predict that in 2 years, with refinements of the 4680, that will become 500 miles.
The only issue is the shape of the battery, which downgrades the usability of a flat bed.
There could be a way to do a range extender with a different shape, allowing a flat bed.
@@julienvm Yes, absolutely correct.
I was referring to Marques stance in the intro that Tesla for the first time didn’t hold any of its promises. And as you can see, the most criticized is the range, which in fact is not that far away fr announcement: 340 beating 300. And 470 close to 500. Performance and features are also more than announced, including really useful things like powered frunk, vehicle-to-home, rear seat screen, etc. Those plus inflation plus general macro economics increased the price (which is totally in line with “competition”), which frustrates people. But Marques saying that Tesla broke all its promises for the first time is plain wrong.
I think the 48V and wiring redesign to reduce weight is probably the biggest leap ahead the CyberT represents. OEMs have been trying for 30 years and they've been hemming and hawing all the time waiting for someone else to blink first.
Absolutely
40:10 you meant B and C pillars, A pillar is the side of the windshield
Just so you guys know, there are already factory and aftermarket windshield wipers that spray washer fluid from the length of the wiper blade
My 1990 Dodge Caravan had that
Where is the t-shirt Marques is wearing from? It looks really good!
@34:00 id love to get your guys take on Jason Camissa's thoughts on the cyber trucks innovation next week (just came from the carmudgeon show eppisode on the cyber truck and as one of the like 4 other people to be at the event he feels is a pretty fundamentaly revolutionary product for the car industry)
THe DMX referrence was so wild but so enjoyable! 😂
The description of not being able to see the front of the truck sounds almost exactly like my experience with minivans. I’ve had several and you just have to get used to understanding where the nose is.
And probably even worse with most large pickups amd SUVs
1:10:58 Now that you mention it, it feels weird that all life we know is around us.
I linked the ICANN episode to a bunch of people. Goated episode
Crust, mantle, and pineapple! We all learn this!
While I appreciate this perspective from non-engineers, you guys are wrong from an innovation perspective. The truck introduces a lot of under-the-hood evolutions that make quite a bit of difference in terms of capability. Jason Cammisa's review does a pretty good job of delving into those.
Fully agree. The 48 volt system, the drive by wire…. Those alone are humongous innovations that allow the entire automobile industry, EV, ICE or Hybrid, to move forward. I personally believe the gigacasting, the exoskeleton and the use of stainless are huge innovations as well. As a truck owner whose 5 year old truck started getting rust bubbles (just before I replaced it) I can tell you I’m sick and tired of trucks that look tough but frankly are designed around planned obsolescence. Further more, I don’t think enough emphasis is put on crash avoidance and related safety software making non-occupant safety less of a concern. The point is that if you can make it far less likely that you collide with anything in the first place, then the effects of those collisions are less of a concern. The crash safety for the occupants is about protecting them from the vehicles that don’t have this sort of software. Perception is not always reality. If that truck was effectively a 6500lb Ginsu knife…. Would it matter if in its entire life span it never cut a single person or thing? All of these criticisms seem to be ill examined, under-informed “what if”s
@@MDC_1985 Nailed it. I love the rear axle steering too.
Agreed, this is an uncommon L for Marques. Everyone expected this truck to be skin deep. A controversial design wrapped around a model y's bones. Sure it's expensive right now, remember Tesla isn't afraid to reduce the price of their vehicles, and the range isn't there but it has a ton of substance to it to be excited about. And that meat is going to affect the rest of the s 3xy lineup, which is pretty exciting.
Yeah. Top Gear one covers the revolution and capabilities that are Cybertruck. If one doesn't know, it is what it is.
nice sweater, Marques
Trains like BART screech when going around corners when those corners are too tight for the conical wheel shape to compensate and the wheel flange rubs against the track. But because of the shape of the track and wheel, trains don't need differentials or thrust vectoring. Practical engineering just did a video about why train wheels and tracks are designed the way they are, you should check it out!
Very nice explanation! I know BART even has special wheelsets designed to reduce flange squeal, and in Boston they use both graphite flange lubricators and greasing points on tight turns. Wheel slip due to lack of differential might cause some noise, but even if they had differentials flange squeal can be very loud.
Regarding the Spotify wrapped part, while I watch a lot of tech TH-cam, you guys are the only tech podcast I listen to/watch. So I fall under the top genres for listeners are not tech group. I really like the whole MKBHD/Studio crew and don’t feel like listening to any other tech podcasts.
You missed a great opportunity by not calling him Chat-G-Brownlee. 😂
hearing a 3-point turn be called a K-turn is the wildest thing about this episode for me
Really? I thought "it charges with 1000 miles per hour" was weird already 😂 😂 😂
FYI Side view mirrors are required in California. If you take them off you could be pulled over and cited. Check your state laws.
Great analysis of the cyber truck fellas…. Few crucial things on the innovation front you missed. The single largest casting (both front and rear) in a passenger vehicle. Steer by wire in a commercial truck and all the benefits that come with 48 volts. Also…. The glaring obvious… they have had to come up with a new composite of metal to build the truck…that’s a big one. So yeah… a few innovations, and that’s why it felt so solid when you hit those bumps…..
The 240V outlet in the bed is a NEMA 15-50 like in an electric range. There are other 240V outlets so this is important.
Windshield wiper - My 1977 VW Scirocco had a single wiper. IT was fine.
Is that the windows Christmas sweater?
45:30 not only strength of the motor to push against all of that leverage, but then if there's any "upward" force like ice build up on the passenger's side, the long lever arm will cause the wiper to pull up from the glass on the drivers side too. The wiper will ride on top of any ice rather than "scraping it" away
Windshield wipers are not designed to remove ice. Even if they had enough power, they rubber would get ripped to pieces very quickly. Having spent most of my life with ice on my windshield in the morning it’s clear that that has to be scraped off. Once the truck gets going, the defrosters keeps the windshield warm enough that there is no “ice build up”. That’s the job of the defroster.
Let’s goooo! Weekend mode activated. Ellis needs a tech conspiracy segment.
There are plenty of vehicles where it's hard for you to place the front. Jaguar E Type, or any low slung front end ports car. I'd rather that front than some common large front truck grill.
Also i love how it doesn't even need side impact beams.
Rear view mirrors can eat ~5-8%. With the range extender, the 470mi should reach over 500 miles
The Cybertruck is so unique and has a practical capability. However, at this point it is not for me but there are at least two features I especially like.
The Drive-by-Wire ability is so terrific where you can get a full wheel turn by only moving the steering wheel about one half turn. Also, the steering wheel itself is fabulous in that it is somewhat square and you can more clearly see over the steering wheel. You can also easily place your hands on the mostly flat top part of the wheel for a better position to drive as well as to comfortably rest your hands on the mostly flat bottom part of the wheel while in FSD or just cruising without it on…… so Terrific …. It would be Great if TESLA would offer these features on all of their vehicles. I am hopeful the new items will be available for the line up in the near future.
literally just came from watching the MKBHD 40minute video of the CyberTruck! So dope great video and amazing to see Ellis on the big table
We should have one episode where Marques is in the Adam's spot haha!
@26:22 Finally, Marques....the thing that you and l AGREE on.
The way it DRIVES...l must add the FUN of the whole experience!🎉
10:21 -- Putting Carbon out of atmosphere and putting it in the earth is literally the carbon capture tech and we WANT that. David...you know better
I would say the cybertruck is innovative in a couple ways: The steer by wire and the rear wheel steering, the 48 volt construction, and the exterior steel panels which add to the torsional stiffness, the built in tonneau cover rated for 300 lbs, the door handles. Pretty sweet.
Seeing the MKBHD video then running tf over here cause I knew they’d be talkin about it
Quick suggestion: when you do get the CyberTruck, you should take a first-person videoed experience with the Meta Ray-Ban
MS Edge Copilot says: The atmosphere is not part of geology, but it is closely related to it. Geology is the study of the physical features and processes of the Earth, such as rocks, minerals, volcanoes, earthquakes, and plate tectonics.
David was correct!
Yes, the ICANN episode is epic ❤
1) Drive by Wire
2) Ethernet data connections
3) 48V system
Anyone of these would be innovative. Having all three in one truck seems innovative to me.
Techvember 2 months in a row let's go😂
I want to see the video, too of the windshield wiper
To say “The Cybertruck is not innovative” is way off! It’s the 1st truck to disrupt the truck design in a 100 years! 1st mass produce vehicle to offer drive by wire, 1st vehicle to use 48v electrical, 1st massed produced bullet proof truck, 1st truck to offer FSD, 1st truck to be faster than any mass produced sports car, 0 to 60:in 2.6 seconds is insane! This truck is truly next level and arguably the most innovative mass produced vehicle on the market!
marques sweatshirt is really cooooool tbh
Marques salty about Argon is the funniest thing to happen in WVFRM
i seriously love Ellis so much
Zack looks like Hitman! Don't mess with him!
Right?
Agent 47 himself
@19:00 Marques, with respect if we're nit picking the good, the bad and the not so ugly, it delivers 0-60 at 2.6sec.
In the Drag Racing World, 1/8 mile and 1/4 mile sport, every 1/100th of a sec, let alone 1/10 of a sec can make for the win or lose!
Thanks guys for everything, making my week much better 🐐
29:30 - 29:35 yeah that's called the Ford wonder steer™
Ellis’s takes on the cyber truck are 👌
Like many others, ICANN was when I started listening and I can't go back to listen to Pre-David episodes. Keep it up!
Oh boy oh boy
Oh Jonathan, Oh Jonathan
That “where are you” when guessing locations was hilarious. I ugly laughed.
This is going to be insurance companies' worst nightmare. The exterior structure is going to be a fortune to replace, not to mention that giant pane of glass. Also, I feel like those steel panels are going to be metal bladed guillotines that absolutely bite into and decimate other vehicles.
People keep saying sht like this but don’t know jack.
Surprised it's legal to drive something like that
@@carspotting4325 state the reasons why it should be illegal.
Single long pieces are way easier to build than the molds that other vehicles have
@@MylesKillis from what I've read that's not the case and these are very expensive to manufacture. Look at AEV's hot stamped boron steel skid plates as another example. Plus getting pristine stainless steel panels that large can't be easy. You can't just replace a small body piece so you're always replacing a large piece of the vehicle's structure, hence more expensive.
It's also a unibody that gets a lot of its structural integrity from those exterior steel panels (they originally wanted it to be an exoskeleton). I'm having a hard time imagining a crash above 45 MPH where the vehicle isn't completely totaled or misaligned. I mean, I didn't engineer it, but it's got to be hard to build crumple zones out of massive stainless steel panels that don't transfer the force of impact into the rest of the structure. I know they crash tested it to not kill you, but that doesn't mean the vehicle won't be totaled after every decent crash. I don't think Tesla cares if you have to buy a new Tesla. That being said, I haven't seen the data, so all this is just speculation until a bunch are driving around and there's real world data to work with.
I’m listening from France cheers guys !! 🤘
Goated pod thanks guys!
Marques was wearing Earth for this episode :D
21:19 "when this truck was announced years ago it launched into a different world then we have now"
Yeah, back then we laughed at it being bulletproof, now that's a great feature.
"Loose, slow, boaty" is WVFRM Podcast description of the Ford Lightning while driving home after reviewing the Tesla Cybertruck. Thats very objective considering their high praise for the lightning.
I liked your comments on the Cybertruck, you guys definetely looked like you were having fun reviewing and testing it 😂
31:37, my last Honda had a camera on the right mirror which showed up on the center screen when you activated the right turn signal.
Marques and Elon have one thing in common. They call a truck a car. How hard is it? 😂
They are tech guys. Likely never owned a truck before.
The screen look when merging left was new to me at first in the Y. Now I can’t live without it
56:24..."Guys, this is going so far left". 🤣🤣🤣 Honestly why this is my favorite podcast. Love y'all 😂😂
i worked as production artist for an app that did what casetify did to dbrand, and you’re almost right about how that went down, but it wasn’t an intern who decided to plagiarize - it was the people in charge of the product who right clicked to save as. casetify the company definitely did it intentionally. the production artists at the bottom were probably against it (if they knew what was going on), but needed to get a paycheck.
Great episode 🎉
Wait I’m freaking loving marques’s sweater
I hear what you’re saying, but saying this truck isn’t innovative is asinine. Ignore how it looks and focus on:
1: 48v chassis architecture. NO other manufacturers have been able to pull this off, something that has been a priority for decades now.
2: steer by wire. This is the first vehicle application of steer by wire ever. Again, this has been a manufactures dream for decades, but these engineers were the first to do it
3: the single piece cast aluminum front and rear structures are not only the biggest aluminum castings ever in automotive but also some of the largest castings ever
4: stainless steel body panels as structural elements. This has simply never been done in automotive and is the reason, along with the castings, why this truck is so solid, as you mentioned.
Huge fan of Marques (cool seeing you on Good Good). Ellis seems like his brain is missing a few wrinkles, but overall great podcast. Congrats on being 1 of 3 guys that got it for review!!
The Lexus RZ is steer-by-wire, there are others but it hasn't been particularly popular because it's hard to get the feel right. Try again.
(Also 48V isn't fundamentally hard, it just hasn't been super convenient or needed because cars used 12V batteries and didn't usually have high-power electrical outlets (because they wouldn't have the alternator / battery to power them anyway.)
CyberTruck looks sick ngl 🖤
This is probably a top 5 funniest episode - couldn't stop laughing throughout. Yall just vibe it's awesome
31:16 RE: Side mirror law = California Vehicle Code clearly states you need side mirrors. It reads "Every motor vehicle subject to registration in this state, except a motorcycle, shall be equipped with not less than two mirrors, including one affixed to the left-hand side."
Ellis, it's not the BART. It's just called BART.
As an electrical engineering student I salute you Ellis🫡.
Does anyone else think that there should be a “David’s Tech Tea (DTT) segment 👀🧐
Marques, at 40:00 the buttons are on the B and C pillar, not the A pillar.
A pillar is between the front windshield and the front row
B pillar is between the front and back row
C is between back row and rear or another row which is then another pillar
Zach seems like a genuine kind guy.
Thanks for the Shout out! @PHILS
This truck has me like 🚙🚙🚙🔼🔼🔽📐