there are even examples of DOUBLE counting in carbon offsets. along the lines of "saving the forests that were already saved" which rollie fingers discusses. see nature conservancy.
This crossover seems so obvious in retrospect, but it truly feels like one of those moments where you bump into two people and go, "Wait, you KNOW each other??" Diving into this right now!
Am I the only one who didn’t enjoy this episode? He didn’t really give meaningful answers to most of the questions he was asked. I feel like they’ve already discussed these issues with more detail/nuance in previous episodes than they did here.
@@4lc441 I've been looking for someone to say this. He seemed nice and wasn't unpleasant but I did find many times where I had to sigh and the awkwardness coming from the rest of the podcast, especially David (which you can see on his face a few times when the camera cuts), really got to me. His answers weren't really clear... Like when he was asked about whether pot-able/recycled water was a real thing and he went on talking about the Latin root of the term... That... That wasn't what he was asked. Or at the beginning when he even realised he went on a completely unrelated tangent and Marques' scoff was my reaction exactly at that point.
@@AngelicHunk Well yeah but he still didn't actually address the question right. He pivoted to other topics or jokes instead of actually talking about anything substantial.
Fun fact: I was one of the engineers tasked with doing a hydraulic analysis of the Niagara River leading up to Niagara Falls (they were replacing a pedestrian bridge on the American side). Power plants from both America and Canada take a certain amount of flow each day from the river to power lots of things. To make Niagara Falls look nice, during peak visiting hours (weekends during the summer) these plants don't take any flow from the water. We had to account for this in our analysis of the worst case scenario (in terms of volume of water). Thought it was kind of interesting.
I've always been troubled by the fact that when tech reviewers recommend a product to buy they're almost never talk about the ethics and impact of the company that make them as well as their repair ability and companies attitudes to sustainability etc. I've worked as an ethical IT purchaser for government and business for many many years and do not understand why tech reviews seem to refuse to inform their audiences of the ethical side of their recommendations. Recommending you buy a product based on its features alone without considering the environmental sustainable and repairability aspects just seems wrong.....
I agree with you and would love to see more focus on corporate ethics in reviews, but the fact of the matter is that covering ethics becomes its own separate research project to dig into the company, their history, the background of the product designers, etc. Not to mention you'd need to figure out if Company A (who has a great ethical reputation) uses any widgets from Company B (who doesn't) in their product, and that's a whole separate can of worms. And maybe all of that is overkill, but without doing exhaustive research I feel like it would be impossible to make any kind of informed ethical judgement about a single product, let alone a whole company. So if we want to have that kind of discussion (and I think there's absolutely value in having them), these "ethical reviews" would almost need to be their own deep-dive style documentaries a la 60 Minutes or something.
More discussion and focus around the triple bottom line would seem to be the obvious win/win from both the company as well as the customer perspective, but for some reason has never gained much traction since I learned about this almost 20 years ago.
Long term MKBHD/Waveform fan, found Climate Town just this year. A mixture of two great things! Just started listening to The Climate Denier's Playbook podcast and highly recommend it!
Thank you David. Can't tell you how many times I've seen people get stuck on a word in conversation and ask "Is ____ a word?" I always, as well, just say "Words aren't real." If I understand what information you're trying to translate from brainwaves to human sound patterns. Guess what? You succeeded.
@@somratkhan8688 Depends on context, topic of conversation, and the company you keep. I guess. If you're having a philosophical debate on the nature of existential realism, (or worse, contract litigation) then yeah, vocab is probably important. If you're trying to explain the texture of a material to a friend and call it "cork-esque" then I get it.
Good for you guys for convincing such a great content producer on your show. I watch everything that Climate Town puts out. I wish that there was more, but I think that high quality takes time to produce. Great way to pull more traffic to your channel.
I work at an Amazon warehouse and was asked to help out for 40 minutes at this place where packages needs a human touch to make sure they are placed onto the conveyor label side up. The amount of single item, plastic shopping bags I’ve seen, in that short amount of time. Should be illegal. I always knew how much plastic bags Amazon goes through but to see it first hand, I was stunned
Just want to mention how I love that you guys do bonus episodes when you have a guest rather than the guest episode replacing the normal format! I mean I loved this episode and Rollie was a great guest, but it's just nice to know we still get to hear the regular squad banter later in the week 😅
I love how you quickly Rollie gets going on a tangent. It’s such an indicator of such deep knowledge and a desire to share it. No wonder climate town vids are so long - thank god he scripts it!
@@darthmaul216 Facts? Not a single fact about the genocide in the Congo was discussed. Not a single fact about the perils of lithium batteries was discussed. No facts about the impact on the car industry. Not a single fact about CHARGING PEOPLE A TAX to use their own devices (carbon credits). This was literally a shine piece for the pro-green people and said NOTHING about the very valid counter arguments against it.
@@khall187 why would they talk about genocide in congo? its about climate. they also didn't talk about genocides that happened in the US. because its not relevant to the current climate crisis. this is basically an intro to thinking about the climate for fans of marques and tech people
I have a forestry degree the stuff said about logging and burning is false information. Forest management involves cutting trees like a person getting a haircut to keep it from being overgrown and unhealthy. Prescribed burns are another method of forest management where control fires burn dead leaves and other materials that could act as fire fuel on the forest floor. Stopping these practices will led to more severe fires in the future that will produce more carbon emissions than normal management practices. Not all harvesting are using a clear cut method. Most of the time it is a thinning method which once it's done you can barely tell there was a harvesting operation was done in that stand. Even so with clear cutting operations it is done with species like Douglas fir that love the method. It gives them open space to release their cones. Regeneration for Douglas fir is quick after clear cutting operations turning it into essentially a tree farm. Harvesting operations allow for more regeneration and completion after its done as new open space is available for seedlings to grow and not be shaded by old growth tree. Apart of "forest protection" as mention not to do in the podcast but is indeed how to protect the forest is prescribed burns and harvesting operations to keep the forest nice and healthy. In general there is a misconception about the whole logging industry and forest management in general as most people automatically think cutting down a tree is bad. There is a lack of public education for forestry practices.
No disrespect, but "false information"? There weren't any serious implications about forest management in this episode. When Rollie mentioned burning forests, he was implying a *complete removal* of a forest; he used it as a flippant hypothetical where a company pays for a carbon negative thing to not happen. The focus was about carbon offsets, not forest management. He also didn't imply clearcutting was the only harvesting method, but clearcutting definitely happens, so using that term is valid in an example about "carbon-neutral" posturing.
@@AngelicHunk his remarks on leather are very far from reality tho, we need to keep in mind that cow farms are not going away, vegan leather is a synthetic plastic-like bottom of the barrel quality material that takes 1000 years to degrade, while real leather is a byproduct that otherwise will be garbage that will continue to exist, it's also way more biodegradable with way more durability and reusability, disappointed that such a big activist doesn't know this simple things.
I don't think his intention with his comments on forest management were to say "all trees must not be cut" but rather to illustrate the idea of carbon offsets with something people are likely to be familiar with, despite the actual nuance you point out. Valid point though
I LOVE the ClimateTown channel. Such an excellent idea for a bonus episode. Can't wait to sit down with a cup of tea and listen. Thank you to everyone who made this episode possible.
The absolute core environmental problem in society is consumption. No matter how we twist and turn it. We live in a world where our financial system promotes consumption exploitation by creating short-term products, that are either low-quality, break, become old, or are unrepairable. If that's not the case, corporations will exploit human psychology to want the latest thing through marketing and influence, even though very little has changed. They might update the design on the latest phone with rounded corners instead of flat to make the device appear a bit different, and then add a feature or two and sing their praises. Apple are masters of this kind of behavior so I honestly don't care about apple's recycling claim or carbon neutrality. To me it sounds a lot like green washing, to make people feel good about continuing purchasing their products, and for them to continue the unsustainable route of exploiting consumerism.
yeah this is the elephant in the room. Capitalism and the environment are not compatible. If the US was to reduce consumption of goods and services, it would tank the global economy. It's no coincidence that during the pandemic, the environment and nature recovered, but there was an economic crisis at the same time due to the fall in consumption and transportation.
Since I am a massive pool fan, I knew Rollie for his cool recreations of shots, so to see him talking about climate change is definitely a crossover for me😂👍
I LOVE CLIMATE TOWN!! Omg I have literally DREAMED of this collaboration! Of course in the dream there was a zombie apocalypse happening simultaneously but still. This is amazing!!
I think this is the best episode you ever did and the most important too. We need to check these companies continuously. Ask the questions, Marques! It's important.
I love MKBHD, but having a Phd degree in climate science and having collaborated with the IPCC I can said there where a lot of imprecision in the discussion. Also, the offsetting of carbon is terrible, is just greenwashing, there are a lot of issues with the accountability of carbon. I was expecting a more firm statement about that
The thing about the OnePlus recycle scheme is, are they actually recycling it themselves? As soon as they aren’t then there’s a significant chance that they’re handing it to a “recycling company” that’s just going to landfill it because they couldn’t find a buyer or some such
Wow, what a collab!! For me... Rollie is known for his awesome pool videos, I still watch them everyday even though he stopped making those two years ago. Good to see him here.
Y'all should have Simon Michaux on to discuss recycling & mining. Alongside the feasibility of the "green" transition. I think you guys would enjoy discussing the user experience of devices(tools) in relation to their complexity.
I think that there's a big misunderstanding (or at least a blind spot) in the discussion regarding the carbon footprint of consumer devices (when they speak about the option to charge only when greener electricity is available). The carbon footprint of a consumer device is between 75 and 95% due to it's fabrication and the rest is for it's usage. So the option introduced by apple will only impact these 5 to 25%. So it could not be a big dent as implied in the discussion. This is especially true for cellphone that are made to use very small amount of energy for battery use. And if you change your phone just to have this option, it's a loss. You'll have to use the new phone for a hundred of years just to recoup the emission during fabrication with the emissions saved during charging. And the explanation about scope 3 is also misleading. Scope 3 regards the emissions made by someone else due to the activity of the company. As Apple don't build its own products, the fabrication is in scope 3. The electricity used to charge the phones is also scope 3 because Apple don't use its products. So yeah, it's obvious that 95% of the carbon footprint of Apple is scope 3, but it doesn't mean that it's 95% due to the users charging their iPhones. It's mostly due to the outsourcing of the fabrication by Apple. As a consumer, the best thing you can do to reduce your electronic carbon footprint is keep your devices for the longest time. If you change your phone every 3 years instead of every 18 month (current average in Europe AFAIK), you will cut the emissions by two. Far better than the 1 or 2% you can get by charging when the energy is low carbon. I know, this is not what @mkbhd and any tech reviewers are promoting, but it's a fact. Resist the urge to change your phone ! And as a company, the best thing you can do is help consumer not buying new products. Help them to keep their current phone for the longest time (Apple is not so bad in that regards).
I really got into pool via Rollies old videos. Then one day his climate content was recommended in a Tom Scott email and my lil mind was blown. Top tier youtuber!
Been watching Climate Town for a year now I scared my cat jumping for my phone when I saw the thumbnail Also, the 90 degree bond bit That absolutely KILLED
BONUS EPISODE
MKB(ONUS)HD 🎉🎉🎉
I love to see Waveform highlighting these underground, lesser known channels.
Those bonus episodes are awesome!!
So this is not Friday? 🥲
there are even examples of DOUBLE counting in carbon offsets. along the lines of "saving the forests that were already saved" which rollie fingers discusses. see nature conservancy.
AYYYYYY, thanks so much for having me on the pod! Sorry to drag David’s mom's house into so many metaphors.
Yeah dude, that was pretty out of line.
Okay you need to calm down,@@RollieWilliams
Is that @RollieWilliams, the world-famous billiards influencer?!
Omg this is hilarious 😂
@@RollieWilliams its rollie from kamui!
UNDERRATED COLLAB. 100% didn't expect this. Shoutouts to the team for connecting with Rollie.
For sure. Rollie is awesome. "There's like a million of those people and they've all seen Mad Men" 🤣
I love Climate Town!! What a fun cross over!!
I’m not sure if Marques has a compatible sense of humour though. So many funny moments landed so flat.
Plus one! Climate Town!!!
This is one collaboration I never would have expected!! Big fan of both of your channels.
This crossover seems so obvious in retrospect, but it truly feels like one of those moments where you bump into two people and go, "Wait, you KNOW each other??"
Diving into this right now!
Rollie should become a recurring guest of the show every time a tech company comes out with some big 'sustainability' news.
MKBHD’s Senior Climate Science Correspondent
Am I the only one who didn’t enjoy this episode? He didn’t really give meaningful answers to most of the questions he was asked. I feel like they’ve already discussed these issues with more detail/nuance in previous episodes than they did here.
@@4lc441 I've been looking for someone to say this. He seemed nice and wasn't unpleasant but I did find many times where I had to sigh and the awkwardness coming from the rest of the podcast, especially David (which you can see on his face a few times when the camera cuts), really got to me. His answers weren't really clear... Like when he was asked about whether pot-able/recycled water was a real thing and he went on talking about the Latin root of the term... That... That wasn't what he was asked. Or at the beginning when he even realised he went on a completely unrelated tangent and Marques' scoff was my reaction exactly at that point.
@@ElusiveTy The Latin root thing was a joke you didn't catch. His comedy is a kind of dry humor.
@@AngelicHunk Well yeah but he still didn't actually address the question right. He pivoted to other topics or jokes instead of actually talking about anything substantial.
These extra episodes are spoiling me and I love it and thank the team 🙌🏽
Fun fact: I was one of the engineers tasked with doing a hydraulic analysis of the Niagara River leading up to Niagara Falls (they were replacing a pedestrian bridge on the American side). Power plants from both America and Canada take a certain amount of flow each day from the river to power lots of things. To make Niagara Falls look nice, during peak visiting hours (weekends during the summer) these plants don't take any flow from the water. We had to account for this in our analysis of the worst case scenario (in terms of volume of water). Thought it was kind of interesting.
Can't reccomend climate town enough, the deliver and editing style is top notch (the research and education is pretty great too :)
I've always been troubled by the fact that when tech reviewers recommend a product to buy they're almost never talk about the ethics and impact of the company that make them as well as their repair ability and companies attitudes to sustainability etc. I've worked as an ethical IT purchaser for government and business for many many years and do not understand why tech reviews seem to refuse to inform their audiences of the ethical side of their recommendations. Recommending you buy a product based on its features alone without considering the environmental sustainable and repairability aspects just seems wrong.....
I agree with you and would love to see more focus on corporate ethics in reviews, but the fact of the matter is that covering ethics becomes its own separate research project to dig into the company, their history, the background of the product designers, etc. Not to mention you'd need to figure out if Company A (who has a great ethical reputation) uses any widgets from Company B (who doesn't) in their product, and that's a whole separate can of worms.
And maybe all of that is overkill, but without doing exhaustive research I feel like it would be impossible to make any kind of informed ethical judgement about a single product, let alone a whole company. So if we want to have that kind of discussion (and I think there's absolutely value in having them), these "ethical reviews" would almost need to be their own deep-dive style documentaries a la 60 Minutes or something.
More discussion and focus around the triple bottom line would seem to be the obvious win/win from both the company as well as the customer perspective, but for some reason has never gained much traction since I learned about this almost 20 years ago.
Rollie is my hero man. So funny and so intelligent. The way he fuses teaching and comedy is a true gift.
Find an excuse to bring Rollie back! Love the episode and discussion!!
Long term MKBHD/Waveform fan, found Climate Town just this year. A mixture of two great things!
Just started listening to The Climate Denier's Playbook podcast and highly recommend it!
Rollie!!! unexpectedly getting more Climate Town content from MKBHD!
Climate Town! Great to see Rollie here, nice cooperation 😊
Thank you David. Can't tell you how many times I've seen people get stuck on a word in conversation and ask "Is ____ a word?" I always, as well, just say "Words aren't real." If I understand what information you're trying to translate from brainwaves to human sound patterns. Guess what? You succeeded.
🤝
But then they'll say that you're uneducated on simple things or you're a dumb person though.
@@somratkhan8688 Depends on context, topic of conversation, and the company you keep. I guess.
If you're having a philosophical debate on the nature of existential realism, (or worse, contract litigation) then yeah, vocab is probably important. If you're trying to explain the texture of a material to a friend and call it "cork-esque" then I get it.
Good for you guys for convincing such a great content producer on your show. I watch everything that Climate Town puts out. I wish that there was more, but I think that high quality takes time to produce. Great way to pull more traffic to your channel.
IT’S FRIDA- oh wait… happy tuesday!!!
Honestly, it gets me every time
Video title sounds really interesting, listening right now ^^
I work at an Amazon warehouse and was asked to help out for 40 minutes at this place where packages needs a human touch to make sure they are placed onto the conveyor label side up. The amount of single item, plastic shopping bags I’ve seen, in that short amount of time. Should be illegal. I always knew how much plastic bags Amazon goes through but to see it first hand, I was stunned
I love Climate Town!
I love Climate Town! Rollie did an amazing job explaining some fairly complex concepts. Thanks for inviting him.
Just want to mention how I love that you guys do bonus episodes when you have a guest rather than the guest episode replacing the normal format! I mean I loved this episode and Rollie was a great guest, but it's just nice to know we still get to hear the regular squad banter later in the week 😅
I agree! 😃
Know mid-week waveform!! David always comes up with such incredible episodes
I love how you quickly Rollie gets going on a tangent. It’s such an indicator of such deep knowledge and a desire to share it. No wonder climate town vids are so long - thank god he scripts it!
Ha more like total b/s rambling.
@@khall187so facts are now b/s? Where will it end
@@darthmaul216 Facts? Not a single fact about the genocide in the Congo was discussed. Not a single fact about the perils of lithium batteries was discussed. No facts about the impact on the car industry. Not a single fact about CHARGING PEOPLE A TAX to use their own devices (carbon credits). This was literally a shine piece for the pro-green people and said NOTHING about the very valid counter arguments against it.
@@khall187 why would they talk about genocide in congo? its about climate. they also didn't talk about genocides that happened in the US. because its not relevant to the current climate crisis. this is basically an intro to thinking about the climate for fans of marques and tech people
you have no idea how much I love you for having Rollie on here. that's basically my dad right there
So happy to see Rollie more places on YT, been a GIGANTIC Climate Town fan since the very first video
1:10:55 Imagine companies telling the best they can do-and then surpassing that.
That's exactly what the climate efforts need...
I love this dude's energy! Rollie is such a vibe this episode has convinced me to check out his channel
Climate Town brought me here. First time watching this podcast. Glad to see it!
I have a forestry degree the stuff said about logging and burning is false information. Forest management involves cutting trees like a person getting a haircut to keep it from being overgrown and unhealthy. Prescribed burns are another method of forest management where control fires burn dead leaves and other materials that could act as fire fuel on the forest floor. Stopping these practices will led to more severe fires in the future that will produce more carbon emissions than normal management practices. Not all harvesting are using a clear cut method. Most of the time it is a thinning method which once it's done you can barely tell there was a harvesting operation was done in that stand. Even so with clear cutting operations it is done with species like Douglas fir that love the method. It gives them open space to release their cones. Regeneration for Douglas fir is quick after clear cutting operations turning it into essentially a tree farm. Harvesting operations allow for more regeneration and completion after its done as new open space is available for seedlings to grow and not be shaded by old growth tree. Apart of "forest protection" as mention not to do in the podcast but is indeed how to protect the forest is prescribed burns and harvesting operations to keep the forest nice and healthy. In general there is a misconception about the whole logging industry and forest management in general as most people automatically think cutting down a tree is bad. There is a lack of public education for forestry practices.
No disrespect, but "false information"? There weren't any serious implications about forest management in this episode. When Rollie mentioned burning forests, he was implying a *complete removal* of a forest; he used it as a flippant hypothetical where a company pays for a carbon negative thing to not happen. The focus was about carbon offsets, not forest management.
He also didn't imply clearcutting was the only harvesting method, but clearcutting definitely happens, so using that term is valid in an example about "carbon-neutral" posturing.
@@AngelicHunk his remarks on leather are very far from reality tho, we need to keep in mind that cow farms are not going away, vegan leather is a synthetic plastic-like bottom of the barrel quality material that takes 1000 years to degrade, while real leather is a byproduct that otherwise will be garbage that will continue to exist, it's also way more biodegradable with way more durability and reusability, disappointed that such a big activist doesn't know this simple things.
I don't think his intention with his comments on forest management were to say "all trees must not be cut" but rather to illustrate the idea of carbon offsets with something people are likely to be familiar with, despite the actual nuance you point out. Valid point though
PLEASE bring this guy back. I love Climate Town
the bonus episodes have been so great! Keep em coming!
I haven’t even started watching but I know this episode is gonna be amazing.
ClimateTown is a John Oliver tier channel for me
He called himself “low budget John Oliver” I swear I didn’t prewatch. Fucking awesome 😂
David is spot on, words can mean whatever we want them to.
I LOVE the ClimateTown channel. Such an excellent idea for a bonus episode. Can't wait to sit down with a cup of tea and listen. Thank you to everyone who made this episode possible.
The absolute core environmental problem in society is consumption. No matter how we twist and turn it. We live in a world where our financial system promotes consumption exploitation by creating short-term products, that are either low-quality, break, become old, or are unrepairable. If that's not the case, corporations will exploit human psychology to want the latest thing through marketing and influence, even though very little has changed. They might update the design on the latest phone with rounded corners instead of flat to make the device appear a bit different, and then add a feature or two and sing their praises. Apple are masters of this kind of behavior so I honestly don't care about apple's recycling claim or carbon neutrality. To me it sounds a lot like green washing, to make people feel good about continuing purchasing their products, and for them to continue the unsustainable route of exploiting consumerism.
yeah this is the elephant in the room. Capitalism and the environment are not compatible. If the US was to reduce consumption of goods and services, it would tank the global economy. It's no coincidence that during the pandemic, the environment and nature recovered, but there was an economic crisis at the same time due to the fall in consumption and transportation.
Loving all the longform content!
The collab I never expected, glad yall are fans of climate town too!!!!!
Love Rollie's work on Climate Town! So glad to see him as a guest here - best collab of 2023.
28:11 not only was it a slo mo, it was a time travel, and this podcast was recorded when I was 12 days old. Neat!
This was rad. More Rollie. Thanks guys.
let's goo, great guest climatetown funny and smart
Easily my favorite WVFRM collab. This was so great. Can't wait to see the follow-up.
Since I am a massive pool fan, I knew Rollie for his cool recreations of shots, so to see him talking about climate change is definitely a crossover for me😂👍
I LOVE CLIMATE TOWN!! Omg I have literally DREAMED of this collaboration! Of course in the dream there was a zombie apocalypse happening simultaneously but still. This is amazing!!
I think this is the best episode you ever did and the most important too. We need to check these companies continuously. Ask the questions, Marques! It's important.
Oh! Climate Town! LOVE his videos.
This is awesome!
Edit: Really looking forward to the EV episode. 🤞
This guy is a great discovery. Just subscribed his channel. And the cherry on top is that he's got loads of Dave Matthews' vibes...
Amazing to see Rollie on here - guy has been killing it for the past couple of years.
Rollie is such a G. Nice job bringing him and his voice/activism on the pod!
There's an inherent conflict here between the notion of sustainability, and the consumerism of a tech reviewer channel like MKBHD.
Trying to put any blame on an individual of a tech reviewers level is ridiculous.
no youre just toxic
so only people living in the forest are allowed to interview climate town? why do you think they even came on the show then
Was great to hear from Rollie! Have him on again, love this guy
No way!! The crossover episode i never knew i wanted but i always secretly needed
17:13 A lot of TH-camrs do that. They promote sustainable living to others, but they decide not to do it themselves.
It is also called hypocrisy.
holy smokes, i LOVE ClimateTown!!!!! This is the combo i never knew i wanted, but desperately needed
Excellent collab! More Rollie!
Amazing!!! Climate Town, one of the best TH-cam channels. Well done guys
This was incredibly informative. Thanks Rollie!
Climate Town is a great channel!!
Climate Town is the best! Thanks for bringing his message into the mind of the tech community.
You guys have been crushing it lately - props to the whole team!
1:10:50 You Came looking for this my good Sir.. Because that Click bait short didn't show anything.
I love MKBHD, but having a Phd degree in climate science and having collaborated with the IPCC I can said there where a lot of imprecision in the discussion. Also, the offsetting of carbon is terrible, is just greenwashing, there are a lot of issues with the accountability of carbon. I was expecting a more firm statement about that
I love Rolli, such a fun and informative person, one of a kind!
Damn Climate Town is big time now! Hell yeah
i love climate town!!! such a quality creator
The thing about the OnePlus recycle scheme is, are they actually recycling it themselves? As soon as they aren’t then there’s a significant chance that they’re handing it to a “recycling company” that’s just going to landfill it because they couldn’t find a buyer or some such
Climate Town! Rollie is so god damn good.
Such a good episode please continue with these videos
I'm a simple man; I see Rollie, I upvote.
This ain't reddit...
The problem I have with getting rid of leather is that we still eat beef. So surely we might as well use the leather the cows are producing.
Cant wait for part 2
Loved this collab with Rollie and appreciate the research that goes into these deeper dive episodes🙌🏾
"in any order...or?" Rollie is hilarious for no reason man
Definitely loving the bonus episodes.
A crossover I never expected, but absolutely love!!
Please bring him back (maybe for that ev topic?!!) Rollie is a top tier guest!!!
Love these random drops
1:15:09 - Literally laughing my face off at that Tom Scott impression. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Such a good episode! Hope you guys venture more into sustainability and climate topics!
so many bonus episodes! Thanks guys :). Enjoying em on my way back home from work!
No way! It's 2 of my top 3 TH-cam channels meeting (Fully Charged being the third). Amazing!
Wow, what a collab!! For me... Rollie is known for his awesome pool videos, I still watch them everyday even though he stopped making those two years ago. Good to see him here.
Good Loooooord! A dream ep THANK YOU Love Rollie and his content, freaking brilliant!
A top TH-camr talking about making a more sustainable future! Loved it!
9:32 david saying "...ok..." all uncomfortable lol. great episode!!! hope Rollie comes on again soon.
Y'all should have Simon Michaux on to discuss recycling & mining. Alongside the feasibility of the "green" transition. I think you guys would enjoy discussing the user experience of devices(tools) in relation to their complexity.
We love ClimateTown!
I would love to see him on your main channel for more climate change outreach ❤
Damn, @climatetown making the podcast rounds. Nice! More Rollie is needed.
100% have Rollie back on again. What a great bonus episode
I lost it when he said "carbon dioxide fu*ks of into the atmosphere" 😂 (9:53)
absolute 10/10 video, would recommend.
I think that there's a big misunderstanding (or at least a blind spot) in the discussion regarding the carbon footprint of consumer devices (when they speak about the option to charge only when greener electricity is available).
The carbon footprint of a consumer device is between 75 and 95% due to it's fabrication and the rest is for it's usage. So the option introduced by apple will only impact these 5 to 25%. So it could not be a big dent as implied in the discussion. This is especially true for cellphone that are made to use very small amount of energy for battery use.
And if you change your phone just to have this option, it's a loss. You'll have to use the new phone for a hundred of years just to recoup the emission during fabrication with the emissions saved during charging.
And the explanation about scope 3 is also misleading. Scope 3 regards the emissions made by someone else due to the activity of the company. As Apple don't build its own products, the fabrication is in scope 3. The electricity used to charge the phones is also scope 3 because Apple don't use its products. So yeah, it's obvious that 95% of the carbon footprint of Apple is scope 3, but it doesn't mean that it's 95% due to the users charging their iPhones. It's mostly due to the outsourcing of the fabrication by Apple.
As a consumer, the best thing you can do to reduce your electronic carbon footprint is keep your devices for the longest time. If you change your phone every 3 years instead of every 18 month (current average in Europe AFAIK), you will cut the emissions by two. Far better than the 1 or 2% you can get by charging when the energy is low carbon. I know, this is not what @mkbhd and any tech reviewers are promoting, but it's a fact. Resist the urge to change your phone ! And as a company, the best thing you can do is help consumer not buying new products. Help them to keep their current phone for the longest time (Apple is not so bad in that regards).
Always happy for a bonus episode ❤
I really got into pool via Rollies old videos. Then one day his climate content was recommended in a Tom Scott email and my lil mind was blown. Top tier youtuber!
Been watching Climate Town for a year now
I scared my cat jumping for my phone when I saw the thumbnail
Also, the 90 degree bond bit
That absolutely KILLED
This was a banger! 😊 Climate Town is the best!! Hope you all do more collaborations
1:11:04 is when he’s getting ready to type the Alphabet for those that came from the short.
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Thankssssss
legend
Thanks man