Thank you for this in depth video! I have that exact same mobile fort waterfall booth and aside from yours melting (yikes) I had the exact same complaints about it, lol. This video definitely has me contemplating an upgrade…
@@Sabata ya my mobile fort version completely died shortly after this video. The one demonstrated here is perfect, just as good as the day I bought it and makes airbrushing much more enjoyable
The black package is "adhesive improver", you're supposed to wipe the booth down with those pads and then put the glue/tape to attach the parts to make it semi-permanent. As for the water, I avoided bleach as I spray Tamiya and LAcquers and bleach + alcohol = chloroform neurotoxin gas...:/
Very good point on the bleach, I never thought of that. What would be an appropriate anti mold agent that doesn't react with lacquers. As for the black package it's just a standard lacquer cleaner, it's meant for cleaning off the stainless steel surfaces after painting
@@HobbyBench TLDR Really great video, thank you for taking the time to make it! My personal suggestion would be to look at water cooling or aquarium anti fungal additives. The benefit of water cooling is you can find variants that are safe for specific metals (The water pump for instance). Read the small print or write the companies. They should be able to tell you if it will work well. Since you need it to be safe with alcohol, you can't use bleach or vinegar due to the same problem of creating toxic fumes. Regarding the fumes I'd suggest considering to get a molecule measuring meter for voc's. They will totally remove the odor but they don't always remove all of the voc's from resin printing. Size and quality could make a difference for carbon filters but I'd rather know it is working correctly for indoor venting. I'd prefer to ventilate to the exterior for safety.
@FSDraconis thank you for the recommendations, all great. I did get a $1000 voc tester and did formal tests and this set up was effective at removing VOCs
Does the new model come with dual voltage motor? I see in the old unit that is available you have to choose 110v or 220v I currently live in the US but may move back to South Korea in the next couple years. So if the new unit isn't switchable I'll probably opt for the first generation unit use it for now and then upgrade to the newer model in 220 when hopefully availability isn't so much of an issue.
question, where did you get your exhaust tubing? Our Lowe’s didn’t have anything larger than 4” diameter, in store at least. And while ik I could experiment buying what I think would work, I’d rather just go with what appears to work for someone else. Just a note I’ll still have to vent out the window sadly 😅
Again, how did you attach the holders to the side of the spray booth. There are two holes on the right side, the screw on the top, I unscrewed and reinstalled it. However, the second attachment point has a screw that is to little. So what is the fix. Thanks
I used a knife to clean the hole up and enlargen it on the panel side and I ran the green foam tape around the panel. I put the panel on the foam and then screwed it in where needed. I can see if I got that part on video, let me know if you need more help.
Hello, all. I received my booth last week. Finally, completed the setup with this video. When I clicked on button A to activate the fan, nothing happened. However, button B activated the waterfall. Has anyone had a problem with fan failure? If so, what troubleshooting procedures if any corrected the issue? I have contacted Bella, customer support for assistance. Thanks. Happy New Years!
Ive been thinking of both models and i cant decide on which one to get... i dont know if the 400.00 price tag is worth it and waiting for it to get back in stock for pre order. How do you like this one over your older air brush booth. Still holding up well? Since youve been using it a bit longer? Getting the water out looks more convenient than the older one.
It's much much better. The cheaper one started melting literally after 3 months of lacquer usage and a handful of projects. Worth the extra and much better build quality
Also getting the water out on the cheaper one is a nightmare because the plastic water bin is so thin it's impossible to move while filled and it's really awkward to lift off, and the clips break like crazy. O rings are not solvent resistant so the water curtain fell on my rx 78 pg u while I was finishing and ruined it out of no where. At this point I'm really unhappy with the cheap one and would recommend putting the extra funds up to go with the x
@@HobbyBench alright ill just wait then youve convcied me. I just got the pg unleashed as well and looking forward to cuatomizing it. Yeah i dont like that you have to pull off the wole booth to replace the water. Thanks for sharing your experience.
If your looking for a fan to push it outside you will need an explosion proof one with any of the clears typically, but it will kill the fumes into a canlite without external ventilation in my experience
@philipjensen6442 they aren't rated specifically to be but they aren't exposed either so they should be fine. As for the can lite, it's rated to 650cfm so you just hook your exhaust line from your kaizo x into it
Only place is robotkai, and it needs to be pre-ordered when they are taking preorders. Best way is to hit the notify button on the coming soon page and preorder right when it's in stock. You will get it about a month or two later. Not ideal, but for whatever reason they haven't been able to produce these reliably since launching
Great learning. Do you attach the spray booth duct exhaust end to the Canlite with tape ? A d the other end of Can lite will release clean air ? Sorry if my question sounds stupid but I am not familiar with the filter idea. I can’t connect the spray booth to the window with the long winter and freezing temp here. So I am using the bucket method which is not ideal if you spray solvent. Thx !!
No problem, I'll need to check but I'm 95% sure the exhaust tube uses a standard metal clamp connector and runs into the top of the filter. The filter is a huge cylinder of a cotton like filter material. Inside is 15-20 pounds of powdered carbon filter. The filter is rated to roughly 600cfm, and the air passes through the carbon filter medium through the top intake and out all of the cotton filter material second stage on all the sides of the cylinder. The airflow is unrestricted as the fans are rated around 600cfm and so is the filter, so you maintain negative pressure in the chamber. After the exhaust comes out of the cotton outer layer, according to canlite it's 99.9% filtered of VOCs. I've also done VOC testing and it seems that claim is correct. Canlites are mainly used by at home cannabis growers who are looking to avoid unwanted attention due to the potent scent of there grow tent exhaust. They basically run a grow tent into a canlite and it completely removes scent and vocs. I've also voc tested the bucket method and it does not work, it doesn't remove smells or vocs. It just moves the air to a different place.
So I just checked, it's a 6 inch exhaust tube secured by a metal clamp with screw tightening harness. If you look at 6:49 timestamp you can see in the top of the canlite, it has a metal aluminum intake where the exhaust is clamped onto. You can see the metal clamp itself at 29:03 with the exhaust hooked up for install reference.
@@HobbyBenchone last question if my spray booth has less CFM than the one you are showing. I guess I have the Ophir with 200 CFM if I am not wrong. Would it still be ok to run the exhaust through the 6” Can lite 600 CFM? I mean if the Can lite has a higher capacity than the booth fan is there any risk that air will come back to the booth. Again can’t thank you enough for the great info !! I was sure the bucket wouldn’t neutralize any solvent which I avoid using any in winter. Still I prefer a safer method like the filter you are showing and in both cases I always wear a respirator + I have an air purifier in my hobby room
@@Azantys I'd use the 4 inch canlite model as it's rated for 300-400cfm last I checked and the unit you have uses a 4 inch exhaust anyway. I also use a resp and have a good air filter (which does help). The 4 inch will have slightly less carbon but it should be fine with the lower cfm and it's still like 12 pounds
Just Pre-Ordered one! Awesome video
Thank you for this in depth video! I have that exact same mobile fort waterfall booth and aside from yours melting (yikes) I had the exact same complaints about it, lol. This video definitely has me contemplating an upgrade…
@@Sabata ya my mobile fort version completely died shortly after this video. The one demonstrated here is perfect, just as good as the day I bought it and makes airbrushing much more enjoyable
@ happy to hear this booth is much better, placed a preorder for my own haha
Thank you for your honesty....Great review.
@@yadtahir9443 no problem, wish I had more time to do reviews like this as I have a ton of hobby stuff
The black package is "adhesive improver", you're supposed to wipe the booth down with those pads and then put the glue/tape to attach the parts to make it semi-permanent.
As for the water, I avoided bleach as I spray Tamiya and LAcquers and bleach + alcohol = chloroform neurotoxin gas...:/
Very good point on the bleach, I never thought of that. What would be an appropriate anti mold agent that doesn't react with lacquers. As for the black package it's just a standard lacquer cleaner, it's meant for cleaning off the stainless steel surfaces after painting
@@HobbyBench TLDR Really great video, thank you for taking the time to make it! My personal suggestion would be to look at water cooling or aquarium anti fungal additives. The benefit of water cooling is you can find variants that are safe for specific metals (The water pump for instance). Read the small print or write the companies. They should be able to tell you if it will work well. Since you need it to be safe with alcohol, you can't use bleach or vinegar due to the same problem of creating toxic fumes. Regarding the fumes I'd suggest considering to get a molecule measuring meter for voc's. They will totally remove the odor but they don't always remove all of the voc's from resin printing. Size and quality could make a difference for carbon filters but I'd rather know it is working correctly for indoor venting. I'd prefer to ventilate to the exterior for safety.
@FSDraconis thank you for the recommendations, all great. I did get a $1000 voc tester and did formal tests and this set up was effective at removing VOCs
Does the new model come with dual voltage motor? I see in the old unit that is available you have to choose 110v or 220v I currently live in the US but may move back to South Korea in the next couple years. So if the new unit isn't switchable I'll probably opt for the first generation unit use it for now and then upgrade to the newer model in 220 when hopefully availability isn't so much of an issue.
@@robertthomason7619 not sure I got the first unit
question, where did you get your exhaust tubing? Our Lowe’s didn’t have anything larger than 4” diameter, in store at least. And while ik I could experiment buying what I think would work, I’d rather just go with what appears to work for someone else. Just a note I’ll still have to vent out the window sadly 😅
It's been a while but I def got it on amazon
Should be 6 inch if I remember correctly
Again, how did you attach the holders to the side of the spray booth. There are two holes on the right side, the screw on the top, I unscrewed and reinstalled it. However, the second attachment point has a screw that is to little. So what is the fix. Thanks
I used a knife to clean the hole up and enlargen it on the panel side and I ran the green foam tape around the panel. I put the panel on the foam and then screwed it in where needed. I can see if I got that part on video, let me know if you need more help.
Id totally get one if they ever had them consistently in stock ever
Preorder just went up a few days ago
@@Shinyellen the new ones?
Hello, all. I received my booth last week. Finally, completed the setup with this video. When I clicked on button A to activate the fan, nothing happened. However, button B activated the waterfall. Has anyone had a problem with fan failure? If so, what troubleshooting procedures if any corrected the issue? I have contacted Bella, customer support for assistance. Thanks. Happy New Years!
I have not but I'll check mine to see if there are any steps that could be missed, you have both the light and fan unit plugged in right
Is the material of the booth stainless steel?
Ya most of it is, it's well built. Still going strong today
Ive been thinking of both models and i cant decide on which one to get... i dont know if the 400.00 price tag is worth it and waiting for it to get back in stock for pre order. How do you like this one over your older air brush booth. Still holding up well? Since youve been using it a bit longer? Getting the water out looks more convenient than the older one.
It's much much better. The cheaper one started melting literally after 3 months of lacquer usage and a handful of projects. Worth the extra and much better build quality
Also getting the water out on the cheaper one is a nightmare because the plastic water bin is so thin it's impossible to move while filled and it's really awkward to lift off, and the clips break like crazy. O rings are not solvent resistant so the water curtain fell on my rx 78 pg u while I was finishing and ruined it out of no where. At this point I'm really unhappy with the cheap one and would recommend putting the extra funds up to go with the x
@@HobbyBench alright ill just wait then youve convcied me. I just got the pg unleashed as well and looking forward to cuatomizing it.
Yeah i dont like that you have to pull off the wole booth to replace the water. Thanks for sharing your experience.
any recommendations for a exhaust fan for spraying 1k clear?
The fan inside will work well on the kaizo x, run it into a 6 inch canlite exhaust intake
If your looking for a fan to push it outside you will need an explosion proof one with any of the clears typically, but it will kill the fumes into a canlite without external ventilation in my experience
@@HobbyBench that’s great. How are you pulling air into the canlite, as I saw you removed the inline fan?
Sorry are the fans on the Kaizo explosion proof?
@philipjensen6442 they aren't rated specifically to be but they aren't exposed either so they should be fine. As for the can lite, it's rated to 650cfm so you just hook your exhaust line from your kaizo x into it
anyone happen to know where to order these? they not showing up in that link anymore :)
Only place is robotkai, and it needs to be pre-ordered when they are taking preorders. Best way is to hit the notify button on the coming soon page and preorder right when it's in stock. You will get it about a month or two later. Not ideal, but for whatever reason they haven't been able to produce these reliably since launching
Preorders went up a few days ago
Great learning. Do you attach the spray booth duct exhaust end to the Canlite with tape ? A d the other end of Can lite will release clean air ? Sorry if my question sounds stupid but I am not familiar with the filter idea. I can’t connect the spray booth to the window with the long winter and freezing temp here. So I am using the bucket method which is not ideal if you spray solvent. Thx !!
No problem, I'll need to check but I'm 95% sure the exhaust tube uses a standard metal clamp connector and runs into the top of the filter. The filter is a huge cylinder of a cotton like filter material. Inside is 15-20 pounds of powdered carbon filter.
The filter is rated to roughly 600cfm, and the air passes through the carbon filter medium through the top intake and out all of the cotton filter material second stage on all the sides of the cylinder.
The airflow is unrestricted as the fans are rated around 600cfm and so is the filter, so you maintain negative pressure in the chamber. After the exhaust comes out of the cotton outer layer, according to canlite it's 99.9% filtered of VOCs. I've also done VOC testing and it seems that claim is correct.
Canlites are mainly used by at home cannabis growers who are looking to avoid unwanted attention due to the potent scent of there grow tent exhaust. They basically run a grow tent into a canlite and it completely removes scent and vocs.
I've also voc tested the bucket method and it does not work, it doesn't remove smells or vocs. It just moves the air to a different place.
So I just checked, it's a 6 inch exhaust tube secured by a metal clamp with screw tightening harness. If you look at 6:49 timestamp you can see in the top of the canlite, it has a metal aluminum intake where the exhaust is clamped onto.
You can see the metal clamp itself at 29:03 with the exhaust hooked up for install reference.
@@HobbyBench thx a lot for the prompt reply man !!! 👍👍🙏🏻
@@HobbyBenchone last question if my spray booth has less CFM than the one you are showing. I guess I have the Ophir with 200 CFM if I am not wrong. Would it still be ok to run the exhaust through the 6” Can lite 600 CFM? I mean if the Can lite has a higher capacity than the booth fan is there any risk that air will come back to the booth. Again can’t thank you enough for the great info !! I was sure the bucket wouldn’t neutralize any solvent which I avoid using any in winter. Still I prefer a safer method like the filter you are showing and in both cases I always wear a respirator + I have an air purifier in my hobby room
@@Azantys I'd use the 4 inch canlite model as it's rated for 300-400cfm last I checked and the unit you have uses a 4 inch exhaust anyway. I also use a resp and have a good air filter (which does help). The 4 inch will have slightly less carbon but it should be fine with the lower cfm and it's still like 12 pounds
While the design seems pretty solid, and would be well suited for solvent based paints, it seems the QA and ease of assembly is a nightmare.
I agree although the actual assembly wasn't hard, removing all the plastic wrap took hours