Thompson M1A1 with Dudley Brown
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My grandfather carried the Grease gun and he loved it. But he said the mags were horrible to reload. They had a fin built in to help but it was still awkward. And when his grease gun went down they tried to give him a Thompson and he said hed rather carry a m1 garand around all day than a Thompson. I dont know why but i think he just really loved that Grease gun. By the end of the war he was shooting a 30 carbine or his Grease gun depending on the engagement they were in. The carbine was better for longer shots he said and in some instances the 45 acp just wasn't capable of making the shots they needed.
Check out the weight and the low rate of fire on the grease gun and you'll start to understand
I've fired a grease gun and a Tommy side by side. While the Thompson is visually good, the grease gun is far more superior. Weighs less, simple to operate, slow rate of fire, sits on target, very ergonomic. I'd take a M3 into battle over a Thompson any day of the week and twice on Sunday. I can completely understand why he wouldn't want to carry a Thompson.
My Grandfather George hated The Greese Gun during his time in WW2 one of his best childhood friends was killed while his Greese Gun got jammed.
His weapon was The B.A.R. 30-06. He would rather stick with Thompson .45.
Ty for sharing. This is very interesting info. Personally I would definitely be a M1 carbine super fan.
@@ThomasRonnberg I'd take the M1/M2 carbine or Garand over any other American small arm in WWII. If I had to pick just one it would be the M2 carbine. Select fire might come in handy for certain situations.
The Thompson was my father's favourite SMG. He served with the British 8th Army (Desert Rats) in North Africa and loved his 1928 Thompson. A lot of this was to do with the fact that his favourite actor at the time was Jimmy Cagney! He was able to try several different SMGs of the period and the 1928 was - in his opinion - one of the best, only bettered by the Italian Beretta Model 1938A. Little known fact: A number of the Thompsons that the British Army got were part of the package that they got when they were supplied with the M4 Sherman tank, the Thompson was part of the tank's equipment! Excellent video, thank you.
my gramps had a 1903 springfield and a 1911. if you know your shit then you know the springfield was the army sniper rifle in ww2. Eastern Front.
The inflation of a 200 dollar tax stamp back in the 1934 was equivalent to about $4300 today. So you are looking at $8600 to purchase a Thompson at the beginning of the NFA
Sadly, a transferable full auto tommy is north of 25,000 dollars nowadays. ( I know real wage difference and all that, just saying)
I think you're right, RR.
$8,600 would be a steal for a transferable NFA Thompson.
Goddamn hahaha Godspeed 🏁 🌵 💜 🌺 🌸 God Bless
Shush!
If God didn't want everyone to have a open bolt machine guns, then he wouldn't have made them so easy to produce! 🇺🇲
My dad’s favorite weapon in WW2 was the M1 Thompson. He said that when he was trained on it, he was required to leave it on full auto and manage his trigger to allow it to fire the required/requested number of shots from the range officer. Dad said that he became an expert with the weapon, and could fire one, two, or three shots at a time when demanded by the trainer. He said that he loved the Thompson, but that it had no long range capabilities at all. He also said that you never filled the magazines all the way. 20 round magazines got 18 cartridges, 30 round magazines got 27. He said that way, your magazines became much more reliable. He said that he was rather pissed when forced to turn in his Thompson for an M3 grease gun, which he said was junk by comparison. Thanks for sharing.
downloading magazines is always a smart idea. And yes, with practice, trigger control makes it much more effective, but isn't that the case with every weapon?? :-)
I don't agree about the grease gun -- it is a lesson in KISS.
M1A1s are nice but M1928 gives you a better foregrip. Btw the NFA is unconstitutional and must be repealed!
Preaching to the choir buddy
Absolutely
Sorry, but I greatly prefer the M1A1's fore grip.
this aged very well. good job sir
And the 1986. Machine gun owner's act.
Always wanted one. Now I want one even more.
I have a old squadron and signal book on the British Commandos. The first Commando raid on the coast of France, had every Thompson SMG in Britain (all six of them) on the raid. The information that I have read from veterans. Those infantrymen issued a Thompson SMG hated to have to march with the Thompson SMG, however in combat. Those same infantrymen would praise the Thompson SMG for the fire power it could provide.
An Uncle carried one from the Battle of the Bulge until the end of the war. He was a captain in Korea so had his sidearm but kept a grease gun as well. His statement about the Thompson. He said it was always digging you or gouging you somewhere where but it sure was a comfort when you needed it! And yes, they used it on semi auto a lot. Wasnt hard to hit with up to 150 yards. He said the 20 round magazines were more reliable. He loved the grease guns controlability too.
The Cutts compensator on 28a1 really helps keep it on target even with it's high rate of fire
That's the 1928 gangster style correct?
@@fujimi715 Correct, it came on later 1921's, early and late 1927's & 1928's
Early 1921's came with the "crude" one as shown here.
Yes, the Thompson needs the Cutts Compensator. I have owned a M1928A1, and a PPSH-41, I like the Papashaw, it is a better fighting SMG. I am shure someone will be offended with my opinion. That's ok though.
@@iankelly3479 the PPSH and the MP40 are better guns. Lighter ammo and weapon and better range since it's a higher velocity round. 45 pistol round sucks for warfare. Heavy and slow.
@@fujimi715 yes, the PPSH-41 has a burn there ass down high rate of fire. Very accurate in automatic, and the selector is easy to use. Easy to maintain, love the design. 7.62x25mm is a very hot pistol round. I can see why the were the SMG to have on the eastern front.👍
I was a Fire Support Specialist in the late 1980s. I missed Desert Shield by 10 months. One of the Howitzer Mechanics of the M109s had the M3 Grease Gun. I got to hold it and it was a bit heavier than the grease gun I used to lube the roadwheels of the FISTV.
The famous photo of Winston Churchill was with an M1928A1 thompson the 1928 could accept the drum mags whereas the M1A1 can not. We sent ALOT of 1928’s to England for lend lease and the 1928’s saw a lot of use with the US Marines in the pacific as well until late 44 early 45 when marines started getting M1A1’s
They should SEND THEM BACK! :-)
Best channel on youtube....for almost 15 years. Legends.
If you grew up watching Batman: The Animated Series, you appreciated the TommyGun.
Great video all around - thanks for having Dudley down, Eric!
My Father drove a jeep, as a motor messenger, in WWII. He landed on Utah Beach around 9AM on D-Day. He drove all over England, France, Belgium, and Germany (and Holland & Luxembourg?)...and his issue firearm was a Thompson. His assistant driver/security carried a .30 Carbine, though he wasn't sure if it was an M1 or M2. He also was in Bastogne at the beginning of the Battle of the Bulge.
My Father liked his Thompson, it saved his life once or twice. Of course, he didn't really have to hump it around, since he mostly drove everywhere. He also said, you had to keep your eye on that Thompson every moment...because if you didn't, some other GI would swipe it, they were that sought after.
Damn...would have been amazing if he had been able to "lose" his Thompson at the end of the war, and brought it home with him! If only!
Always reminds me of Saving Private Ryan, I couldn't imagine what a WW2 Veteran remembers from seeing this firearm. Thank you to all the men and women who have sacraficed there lives in the line of duty!
Had the pleasure to shoot one of these beauties and it was awesome.. Heavy and not easily controllable and quickly becomes an anti air gun on full but still a glorious piece of WW2 kit. So sad they’re unobtanium for most.
Absolutely classic, doesn’t get much better then this❤️
Every household should have one. 😉
My grandfather a glider pilot in Normandy gave his Way to heavy Thompson a funeral before making his way back to the beaches.
Some things just really shine in their original sbr auto form: M1 thompson, ppsh, and fn p90 come to mind
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Fired some on my ship, while in the Navy, early '70s. Good times.
I SO wanted to see Dudley try that sideways sweep he talked about!! You left us hanging guys!
Didn't want to embarrass myself.
@@dudleybrown7030 lol, but now I gotta know if it works! You still earned another subscriber 😁
Back in the 80's I was set to buy one from a Customs Agent, but our sheriff would not approve the sale. They were very dense weapons for sure.
Combat:
Sgt Saunders always carried one and Lt Hanley with his M1 Carbine
…and that’s where I got my’White Rook’ handle.
Was good enough for Rat Patrol and John Wayne,
@@whiterook8483 this is checkmate king two , over.. That show and Sgt. Rock comics were the best growing up.
All time favorite smg from ww2.
Vic Morrow on Combat tv series used one. Iconic gun even though not so practical in war scenarios.
14:48 that was actually pretty good and a good presentation of full auto in close quaters
Thank you both Eric and Mr. Brown.
It's the best Submachine gun of its time and it's beautiful too...
Sex appeal? Yes. Best sub machinegun of its time? Highly debatable.
I have always wanted a Tommy Gun from Gangster WWII Era!
Great Video Gentlemen,Thanks Guys!
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At todays rate that gun would be $3499 to purchase. Had to check.
Totally iconic gun. My second favorite WW2 weapon. Thank you Dudley for bringing this out.
Thanks
I think the Thomson sub machine gun is one of those guns that are so iconic that they are an experience to shoot.
By the way, we started the war with the earlier versions. It was changed to this version soon after. But places like Guadalcanal was issued originally. The first troops were even using the 1903 Springfield. It took some time. I believe when the Arm troops cam in later in the fight to relieve the Marines they had the Garand.
really liked the slow-motion clips.
Love me some Thompson!!
Nice shooting. Great highlights on a classic.
My all time favorite gun
The MP38 Is also up there with the original Thompson's as an ultimate top notch finished elite gun
My uncle was a tanker in Europe in WWII and he had a M3. My father, by the way, was an infantryman in the Pacific. He had a M1 carbine and a M1911A2 pistol. Interestingly, he talked about shooting the M1 from the hip.
I've supported the nagr for 18 or 19 years now and always wanted to know what deadly looked like, lmao. Now I know, thank you for having them on
A remake grease gun would be so fuckimg badass. We have the Thompson we need the grease gun
I got to use a 1928A1 (Cutts compensator) while stationed in Scotland. That compensator really helped with muzzle climb.
Yes it does.
My grandfather carried the Thompson and didnt have much good to say about it as he marched across Europe shooting Nazi's. He said it was heavy and shot inconsistently depending if you were shooting uphill or aiming down.
Great content guys keep it up! Thank you for spreading 2A awareness
One of my faves. Cool beans!
A local PD helicopter pilot was a vietnam Huey pilot who carried one under his seat. He said he was shot down six times .
Cool history piece
My favorite SMG. These are what the famous pulse rifles in the Aliens film were built out of. With a chopped up SPAS 12 for the grenade launcher...
I have no way to back this up, but I'm sure that on places like Tarawa and Iwo, these things we used primarily semi-auto. There is no way you wanted to eat up half of your ammo supply engaging some little spider hole when there is no way to know when you would be supplied next
Beautiful video, my favorite.
RIFLE
Great Video Thanks.
Along with everyone else need one of these
Great video Great gun
Sgt Saunders on the old show Combat kicked a bunch of Kraut ass with it. I do believe he never missed.
I remember theSarco M1A1 parts kits for 395.00. A semi would be nice.
Beautiful piece!!!!!
Thanks, Doc!
I can’t wait to get mine
Awesome video ! The best submachine guns in the world: MP5, UMP 45, MP 40, PPSH 41 and Thompson M1, M1A1, M1928A1.
such an amazingly lucky person to be able to handle and use a piece of historically significant ww2 equipment.
My Dad carried a Grease Gun and an M1 carbine well into the Vietnam era. He said at the end of every fiscal year they had to use up as much ammo as possible so they got that and more for the next year. So of course it was a fun week…
That's an awesome gun!
I prefer the other style of the Thompson but definitely a bucket list gun for me!
This is great 😊
I love this video lol thank you
Open bolt machine guns are so simple and clever. When the ATF is done crumbling apart with the rest of our sad excuse of a goverment we will all be opening sweet weapons businesses. 😇
Hopefully there will still be a free world by the and we won't all be slaves to the new world order
ATF should be the name of a store, not a government agency.
You guys are awesome, I want to move to America!
If the army had issued that gun with the compensator I think it would have been even more popular in the field. I had the opportunity to use one once several years ago and wow it is a fine piece of machinery. If they had a slight redesign of the stock as well this would be a very deadly weapon.
I agree, it's a beautiful weapon, both aesthetically and from an engineering standpoint. Had they included the compensator it would have been a big improvement.
Great video
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Are m1a1 has a muzzlebreak with top relief that makes it a Cadillac to fire. Been shooting it since I was 8 and definitely agree with everyone needs to experience firing one. They are super accurate outto 150. Comparable to my glock 21 with a 16 inch barrel in a roni frame.
The dude with the cap is Sgt Chip Saunders.
Nice! As a Thompson afficionado, it's cool to see M1's too, they're a rare sight in shooting videos compared to the much rarer M1921-27-28's that get all the press!
As for drum mags, no M1/M1A1 ever came with drum, because it required a horizontal slot cut into the receivers, such as on 1921, 27 and 28's.
A lot of video games get this wrong, Mafia 2 started it (and I protested on the forums and actually got laughed out for it lol) and portray Thompson's with thin M1/M1A1 receivers featuring drum mags, Cutts compensator, ribbed barrel, the works, which is a source of high inaccuracy and "cancer" for Thompson afficionado's.
It even spread to the airsoft world, Cybergun & King Arms both came out with so-called "M1928" models that have thin receivers and side bolts.
Basically, if a Thompson has a thin receiver (milled out material, which they did to save on weight), bolt on the side, it's an M1/M1A1, and never came with cutts compensator, ribbed barrel or slot cut into it for drum mag.
There's a lot more to it, but just thought I'd get that little bit out there.
Great points, all.
This is an absolute truth.
you are very right shouldn't Kno what firearms we have. it's a right. and they can't just make up laws against it. keep up the great work brother.
Nice gun sir,
Oh I love the Thompson... I saw a semi auto version at a local gun store.. it was $1800 which I didn't think was bad but the itch to throw the nonexistent fun switch would be painful... 🤪
I hear ya.
Erik, have you seen this ? "War Department film bulletin 181: Automatic weapons American vs German 1945" or " Infantry weapons and thier effects"
Weight of 6-fully loaded magazines in a standard G.I.issue magazine pouch + the weight of the Thompson submachine gun...those G.I.s must be The Hulk incarnate!!
For me if I had to carry a gun in combat during WW2 I would rather have a M1 Carbine than a Thompson. Still the M1A1 Thompson was definitely a great sub machine gun. 45 ACP was a beast coming out of one of these at over 600 rounds per minute.
What about the M2 carbine
Would be cool if u could do a video on the Australian Owen sub machine gun
Just subed to NAGR!
What an awesome guest
Thanks, man. Come over and view some videos on our channel.
Bravo
Unrelated. It would be cool to see an Owen gun, Sten and a Tommy side by side comparison. And an MP40 I guess.
My dream gun. The only guns I’d rather have is an M60 or a Stoner 63.
Even if they don’t repeal the NFa let us get the full auto Thompson and BAR with no extra $ cause I can’t afford it. But love them as a fan of engineering, history and sport shooting.
👍😊 I would like one even a semi auto but it’s still a SBR🤷♂️.
Hell yes
American classic!
Open bolt semi auto is weird. Dry fire practice it feels like the clunk of the bolt closing pulls you way off target. On the bright side, the bullet has usually left the barrel by the time your sight picture is disrupted.
My grandfather used an M1 Garand and a Thompson in WW2 and the Korean war. He definitely had some cool stories about both of them but he said he liked his Thompson better.
More ammo, lighter, shorter, easier to use and maneuver with. Hell yeah of course he'd like the Thompson more.
@@smokingcrab2290 I think Thompsons are actually heavier then the rifles.
My father served in the Korea war and he was told to fire at a side raising angle also you Aimed at the horizon and let the gun rise itself.
i would love to see you use a sten. very different gun
I really want to get the SBR version. I'll never be able to afford a transferable.
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Hey Jealousy!
I am a manufacture and I have a semi auto and I would like to do a post sample one day,
So far I am familiar with ak variants and have all the tooling and hk and have all the tooling! Hopefully will be more confident before building this one!
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The M1a1 could not use a drum magazine because Savage (who redesigned the Thompson creating the easier to manufacturer M1a1 version) removed the drum magazine cut to make it easier to manufacture and reduce cost. Plus the Drum magazines were crazy expensive. The Army/USMC could purchase five 30 round stick magazines for one Drum mag and the Army and USMC never in a million years issue the noisy, fragile, easy to clog with dirty and rust drum mags.
Nice everyone should have pne