Companies really pushing this 'no physical media' thing. The consoles aren't the problem. They are plenty powerful enough now. It's the games that aren't pushing the consoles. We don't need new consoles, we need better made games.
You have that with how pokemon devs falled while zelda botw or totk run great, so yes, the devs don't put much efforts more when they know people will buy anyways, as Sony right now knowing people will buy anyways their ps5 pro, so prepare for ps6 being over 1k on price.
Lot of you people are really stupid to understand what the presentation was about, my sincere apologies for the language. If you own a ps5, and actually listened to Mark Cerny, then you will know how players are always divided when it comes to fidelity mode (locked 30fps) and performance mode (60fps), so now with the ps5 pro players will be able to enjoy enhance fidelity mode that targets up to 60fps. The side by side footage simply shows how ray tracing was also enhanced, it was not about having 4k resolution.
@@jonathan-us5jm they may be stupid but you are blind. The issue is the price. We can see all of the good this new device does. The issue is that the cost isn't worth the upgrades. .
Considering digital foundry confirmed pro is at the power of a 4070 and you gana need to spend 1500 on a pc to have what the pro can do and you still moaning
The Pro should have come with a disc drive no matter what. The term “Pro” means it should be the best, and not including everything that would make it a “Pro” is insulting.
Or you know micropenis pays them. Ps3 ps4 and ps5 were 500 dollars. The price was bound to jump. All the poor folks complaining. It's still cheaper than a pc that produces the same quality. Lol
Link me to a positive Sony video from them … they gave Stellar Blade RotR a 7 and Hellblade 2 a what? Stop gaslighting the whole of TH-cam is basically Xbox channels where the video of them saying XSX 2tb at $600 is too expensive…
Sony testing how far they can go with ps6. If ps5 pro sells well next console will be digital only, 1000$+ with games 100$ or more. Dosnt't matter if u have money or not do not buy this.
yep testing how much they can be like apple LOL 70 percent of players are disc makes sense you want to own not rent and want that trade in value if ps6 is no more disc drivei many will be done
@@brotherdarknessgaming4479it’s true nvidia doesn’t have to show new games running on their latest cards for customers, but then again the cards aren’t only being used for gaming. Whereas the gaming consoles are
Imagine having no games coming out for the rest of the year and being like. We have no new games. BUT we got a new box you can play some of your old games at a better frame rate IF you own said games digitally because no disc drive.
@@stevebrown7877 Most of the people buy PS for first party games. Others games can be play anywhere and optimization will not be great as first party games because companies have to focus other console too.
1. No Dualsense Edge PRO Controller 2. No Disk Drive In Box 3. No Stand In Box 4. CPU SSD Speed Same As Launch PS5 5. Subtle Gameplay And Visual Upgrades
As mentioned, the $700 price point is just in US dollars. In other regions, buyers are looking at the Pro starting at around $800 USD. If someone wants a BluRay drive, that's an additional $100 USD. So, the final price is around $900, and in some regions, closer to $1000, after conversions to USD. The counter-argument is when you start approaching the $1K mark, people can build, or buy a prebuilt PC that can do a lot more, and deliver on the promise the presentation tried to skirt around: Native 4K, 60fps gaming as a baseline standard.
They didn't do it for no reason. They want people to switch to PC, so they can stop making hardware and focus on only making games. Then they can charge people ps+ to play their games on PC, since they are making PSN mandatory on all their PC games. This is their way of killing playstation without looking like the bad guys. This is literally a james bond villain level move, literally evil geniuses.
This still requires devs to update their games. It's not like Xbox that boosts frames without dev intervention...shadow of the Colossus, 1st party title, will still be 30fps in fidelity
This. If the price discourages (and it will / already did) a lot of buyers then 3rd party devs will have no incentive to patch their games so these hardware enhancements will be mostly useless.
Comparing to PC prices is a good point, but also reveals the problem: This isn’t going to convince the PC crowd to come over and it’s too focused on being marginally better to convince the console crowd to fork over $700
Honestly, if they said that they would increase ps4 game resolution from 1080p to 4k and have framerate unlock to 60fps on ps4 games, I’d buy it. That justifies the $700 price tag. The hardware is more than capable of doing it, idk why they refuse to do it
Yes it is 😂 my boy just moved to pc his rig with a 3070 ti last year was 3500$ he be having trouble with new games this year. And he plays with us for diablo 4 and complains that he spend too much
@@fabolousjada5070 Your "boy" must know nothing about technology or gaming to be ripped off that bad. $3500 for a 3070 is absolutely laughable. With a bit of shopping around, you can get a 4090 gaming PC for $2000
It is the greatest console ever made CURRENTLY. Most of these exclusives are so perfectly optimized that it makes pc games look shitty. You buy a new pc game, it’s buggy framerate issues even with solid builds. But you will get best performance for the price tag. Also the haptic feedback controllers adds layers of depth and immersion in your controller. Only a matter of time until the PS6 drops.
Now is the perfect time for nintendo to come out and impress with switch 2 with new exclusive games, full backward compatability with regular switch and a decent price point.
If Xbox could do a price drop on series x. They will right now win millions of lovers. Could change the overall sentiment by burning some cash. That will be an epic comeback. Sony will be instantly demonized
They already are selling consoles in Japan for example. After the recent PS5 price increase, Series X/S shot up to the top 10 list of hot gaming items at a large and very popular Japanese electronics store. It wasn’t even in the top 200 before.
@@user-2x5s-r5x6 that’s it? Why not just do it for PlayStation 5 Pro Plus or something if it’s just gonna be the same thing but with higher frame rates.
We will actually get a massive CPU upgrade not just GPU upgrade and we can see more games made for exclusively for the ps6 is the expectation but Sony is hardly putting out a lot ps5 exclusive games so who knows how it will turn out.
BTW, $700 is 635 euros with today's rates. So, the 799 euros advertised in yesterday's tech presentation doesn't make sense. Actually, in another article posted today locally in my (European) country, advertises PS5 Pro price at 650 euros (just a little bit more than 635 of the absolute rate conversion against US), which makes sense since our tax rates are higher than those of the US. It makes you wonder that 650 and 799 are so distant numbers that Sony probably listed the absolute max pricing that reflects some markets and that real figures will be lower. An assumption of course to be soon proven...
I'm still playing on my PS4. Still an excellent console with a ton of backlog games for me to finish. Was waiting to buy a Pro but no physical media killed it for me. Will stick my PS4 and PC.
@@TheKing8608_ the console comes out in november and there are no first party games releasing then. Not exactly a playstation if theres nothing to play. At least we had concord for 2 weeks
@@TheKing8608_ death stranding isnt a first party game. and a new god of war game isnt even announced. So all you got is Wolverine. That comes out 1 year after the PS5 pro comes out.
I'm shocked that the presentation didn't mention that the Pro has 2TB storage space. Honestly that makes it much more worthy of the price to me and no one is talking about it. To get an SSD for another TB costs around $100. So to include that with the graphical upgrades when the PS5 (w/only 825gb) is $500, that seems worth it to me. It does still need to come with a disc drive though.
They need a new marketing team. Nobody cares about graphics update, that’s expected with new consoles. They could’ve said something like unlocked frame rates for ps4 games and upscaled resolution to 4K. That would make it worth it too. 2TB storage would’ve been a much better selling point too.
Glad to see big game jornals, youtubers in general Showing indignation about this gen of playstation console to wake up the Sony. We need decent games, not a minimal improves in graphics who almost nobody notices. This is what really makes consoles sell. More games, not more graphics.
Stop talking about gta 6. It isn’t coming out till 2 years from now. You buying a console for that now ? Or are you buying the console now because of the 12 dedicated ps5 games ? How about PlayStation stop making ps4 games. And more ps5 games. And then try justifying this. Either way. I’m out on the $700 price.
People keep bringing up GTA 6 when talking about PS5 pro its starting to sound like stealth marketing from Sony to convince people that they need PS5 pro to play GTA 6. PS5 Pro is not releasing anywhere near GTA 6 release there is no need to bring it up as much as journalist and streamers are doing these days. On another note we have no idea whether GTA 6 will be masterpiece or just another incomplete single player experience with microtransaction filled online like GTA 5. Gta San Andreas and 4 were way better than GTA 5 in my opinion.
Why do people keep saying the PS4 didn’t have HDR? The reason to upgrade to the PS4 Pro was for smoother/potentially higher frame rates, 4K, and a larger standard HDD. The standard PS4 already did HDR. HDR isn’t specific to 4K graphics. High to mid end LED TV’s were capable of displaying images enhanced with HDR.
As a Rockstar fan it's an easy choice for me. When GTA 6 comes out everyone knows that PS5 Pro will be the best system to play it on for a good while before it comes out on PC.
Most people would likely want to play GTA 6 on the PS5 Pro but theres absolutely no point running out to get one in November 24 to play a game they might release by November 25 all being well with no delays to it, you can guarentee at some point next year the PS5 Pro will be in sales for less money, right now the upgrade from PS5 to PS5 pro is more pointless than going from an iphone 15 to 16.
No console is worth $700. At that price point, you’re flirting with pc prices. You’re literally telling gamers to invest in a pc when you price your console at the price you’re asking for.
A 4070 gpu alone will set you back 500$ a 3080 even more, you can trade your ps5 to get a pro for less than that. 2 tb ssd, a decent gpu and a controller is a decent little package for ppl who just doesn't care to play on a pc
£700 is like $900, we are getting screwed in the UK! $700 is like £530, much more reasonable! The xsx and ps5 is £480 right now so only an additional £50 would have been a good pricepoint for them surley if they can price it that way in the US?
Remember its $700 before tax so youre easily looking at a $750+. On top of that throw in a $5 piece of plastic stand that will probably cost $30 or more and how much for the disk drive? $150? $200?
I'm just here to see children call poor anyone who objects to Sony charging $700 for the PS5 Pro, because the only reason someone would argue about the price of something is having money or not.🙄
@@WBaltimore never said it wasn’t a good deal. Great deal actually but how could the ps5 pro be the same price as the base Xbox series x. They had to go higher
Worst part is that they didn't even wait until something like GTA VI to give people a reason to have the "Best possible" gaming experience on release. Their biggest marketing time will have passed by the time a game comes out that could have changed the tides, and by then folks will have only known the PS5 Pro for its tiny pixel differences. Especially since the alternative, a normal PS5, is no longer out of supply.
Another thing to consider is those people who are only now choosing to upgrade were more than likely excepting the Pro to only be 100 more with a disc drive and now will more than likely see it and get a standard PS5 and forget about it.
Yep. This is basically me. Haven't had a PS since PS3. Lots of great PS4 and PS5 games for me to play, was waiting for ps5 pro. But now, in my local area, ps5 pro will cost almost 4x what a used ps5 will cost.
You guys are downplaying how shitty 4k 30fps is though it’s worth the upgrade to 60fps for the true next gen experience . It should have been $599 though with a disc drive
Nintendo did it better with Switch OLED. People questioned the lack of more powerful hardware but honestly they don't need it. Ppl still buy Switch, and a modest $50 increase for OLED screen that is both bigger and better is much more compelling than a system that is $250 more expensive for 1TB more SSD and pixel peeping improvements...
Considering the 2TB edition of the Xbox Series X is $599, the PS5 Pro is actually priced appropriately (not saying it isn't expensive). You're living in fantasy land if you think you're getting the PS5 Pro at the same price as a weaker console.
It's about more than just power tho, there's no value in a powerful console that can only play proprietary software if there isn't any proprietary software taking advantage of said power
Except the Xbox series X 2TB console stands and has a disc drive. Going straight digital and forcing people to buy the PS5 Pro Stand separately along with external disc drive separately - and still $700 for the console with less features?!? If they wanted to charge $700 it should have had BOTH the stand AND the disc drive included. As this video proves, there is next to no reason to buy this console right now - the existing games look great as is. They might as well have just called this PS6 and been done with it. Maybe they would have gotten some traction. But showing off PS4 games that still look great on PS4 that really don’t look or play any different - is it really worth the price right now? No.
people just crying to cry that werent buying it anyway the funny thing about this is most of these idiots dont even own a 4k TV to actually utilize the PS5 pros power correctly
@@TheKing8608_: name one. Because RIGHT NOW they didn’t show anything that gives us a reason to drop $700+ on this thing. Until they have the games that take advantage of it, there is NO reason to spend the money on this RIGHT NOW.
Try to put together a pc for $700 that will play games at the same level of performance as the ps5 pro, with the same level of fast ssd storage, have the same length of support from developers, be able to play gta 6 on release, and have a hassle free experience without having to look at used pc parts to scramble together something even close. Oh and just a reminder that most GPUs by themselves are 300-600$+ in today’s market. But people are complaining about a $700 box that gives you everything you need to plug and play? Either get a job or find another hobby. Things get more expensive over time, big whoop.
Amen. I'm trading in my launch PS5 and getting it day 1 because performance mode is getting pretty low resolution now. People are just willfully ignorant and love to be negative. There's a reason the gaming community has a bad reputation
The funny thing is limited function device like PS portal cost $250 and it sold out everywhere, but suddenly ps5 pro cost $700 is such a big deal and considered anti consumer lol.
Companies really pushing this 'no physical media' thing. The consoles aren't the problem. They are plenty powerful enough now. It's the games that aren't pushing the consoles. We don't need new consoles, we need better made games.
They are badly optimising PS5 games to sell PS5 pro
💯!!!
Yeah an companies like limited run games earn a lot of money because of that
They make more money with digitale games
You have that with how pokemon devs falled while zelda botw or totk run great, so yes, the devs don't put much efforts more when they know people will buy anyways, as Sony right now knowing people will buy anyways their ps5 pro, so prepare for ps6 being over 1k on price.
Thank you Sony for making the decision to skip PS5 Pro an easy one for me ❤
Original all the way
@@Nobodysurvivesevenonebitwhy do you care what’s original or not
Don't blame Sony for you being too broke to get one. 😂
Yes very easy . switch 2 it is
@@latinochico steam deck is better
If they have to zoom in to show the differences, it's not worth it.
Agree.
Lot of you people are really stupid to understand what the presentation was about, my sincere apologies for the language. If you own a ps5, and actually listened to Mark Cerny, then you will know how players are always divided when it comes to fidelity mode (locked 30fps) and performance mode (60fps), so now with the ps5 pro players will be able to enjoy enhance fidelity mode that targets up to 60fps. The side by side footage simply shows how ray tracing was also enhanced, it was not about having 4k resolution.
@@jonathan-us5jm they may be stupid but you are blind. The issue is the price. We can see all of the good this new device does. The issue is that the cost isn't worth the upgrades. .
Well people watch on a phone and there's TH-cam compressions so it makes sense to zoom. These things are more noticeable in person than on a stream
@@sunofabobgreat, then don’t buy it.
For me worst thing about is the vertical stand being sold separately. That's disgusting from Sony. That thing should be free.
Don’t forget the disk drive for 80$ plus taxes
The worse part is the hypocrisy
True bro
Imma stick to my ps 5 only until BIG UPGRADES will come
and it clearly doesnt lay horizontally on its own, so the stand is pretty much a MUST?!
Next the ps6 will come out without power cables or controller
@briandprice81 you don't have to correct. But also you shouldnt have to if you want vertical which most people would. Silly comment mate.
A lot of people have been saying "an extra $200" but it's actually $300 when comparing it to the disc-less version of the OG PS5
In euros it's straight up double the price of the digital only version, from 400€ to 800€ 😅
You can also buy used PS5s for $250 at this point.
Considering digital foundry confirmed pro is at the power of a 4070 and you gana need to spend 1500 on a pc to have what the pro can do and you still moaning
Unless you run an all digital library anyways. That form of media will be gone by the next console.
The Pro should have come with a disc drive no matter what. The term “Pro” means it should be the best, and not including everything that would make it a “Pro” is insulting.
When ign even clowns on the PS5 pro for being too expensive you know Sony effed up 😂
Or you know micropenis pays them. Ps3 ps4 and ps5 were 500 dollars. The price was bound to jump. All the poor folks complaining. It's still cheaper than a pc that produces the same quality. Lol
Link me to a positive Sony video from them … they gave Stellar Blade RotR a 7 and Hellblade 2 a what? Stop gaslighting the whole of TH-cam is basically Xbox channels where the video of them saying XSX 2tb at $600 is too expensive…
@reelroyalevizion800 where is grammarly when you need it.
@@StillStark he didnt lie tho dont deflect! this aint a college essay
@@reelroyalevizion800 imagine thinking this is an anti ps channel. Did you miss the video of PlayStation winning the console wars?
Sony testing how far they can go with ps6. If ps5 pro sells well next console will be digital only, 1000$+ with games 100$ or more. Dosnt't matter if u have money or not do not buy this.
yep testing how much they can be like apple LOL 70 percent of players are disc makes sense you want to own not rent and want that trade in value if ps6 is no more disc drivei many will be done
The scalpers already did the testing for them during Covid and plenty of idiots bought the base PS5 for 1k, that's why they priced the Pro so high
You are right. In some countries 700 dollars converts to 1000+ already. Sony has lost their minds with this.
exactly
Does Sony want their fanbase to switch over to PC or Xbox?😂😂
The most powerful console - so let's show you with old last-gen games.😂
Does nvidia have to show new games to get ppl to buy their overpriced cards?
Exactly😂
@@brotherdarknessgaming4479it’s true nvidia doesn’t have to show new games running on their latest cards for customers, but then again the cards aren’t only being used for gaming. Whereas the gaming consoles are
Powerful consoles but no new better games
@@brotherdarknessgaming4479 You schooled the poor mofo.
Imagine having no games coming out for the rest of the year and being like. We have no new games. BUT we got a new box you can play some of your old games at a better frame rate IF you own said games digitally because no disc drive.
You do realise all new 3rd party games are playable on it, you know, the games players play the most….
@@stevebrown7877yeah let's just pretend Sony/Playstation isn't all about big single player games.
@@stevebrown7877yeah and what? Where's the first party games
@@stevebrown7877 Most of the people buy PS for first party games. Others games can be play anywhere and optimization will not be great as first party games because companies have to focus other console too.
You can buy the disc drive separate $80, they already said that, still though, more $$
They’re tryna recover from concord with these prices😂
😂 true
Definitely
That and High energy prices, higher material costs, higher wages, and increased fuel costs for transport.
And psvr2
exactly
1. No Dualsense Edge PRO Controller
2. No Disk Drive In Box
3. No Stand In Box
4. CPU SSD Speed Same As Launch PS5
5. Subtle Gameplay And Visual Upgrades
A $700 Wi-Fi 7 Router that gives you a slightly less pixelated background but with _no disk drive_ absolutely diabolical
Your reactionary comments are lacking in substance. You have options. Don't buy the machine if you don't like it.
Stick to the 3 trilion monopoly Microsoft had to to offer 600$ for Xbox 😂🤡😂😂🤣
@@TomlinsonHolman52583wats your point other than being captain obvious?
Bro is everywhere sucking mad D 😅 this bot is a Sony hater lmao man is broken asf and a mook
@@TomlinsonHolman52583 Or use the comment section to display your opinion. That's the purpose for this comment section to exist.
BEST TITLE IGN EVEEER
Sony just raised the price of all future console. Now they can sell any new consoles at $499 or $599 & call it a cheaper console.
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That makes no sense 😂 how much did the ps4 cost when it first came out? How much tied the ps3 cost
blame microsoft for not having competing product
The 2TB Xbox Series X is already $599. Expecting the PS5 Pro to be the same price or lower isn't realistic.
@@David-nd4to yeah cuz ps is definitely only competing with Microsoft. Guess people cant just go out and buy a PC either.
Does Sony owe the Yakuza money or something?!?😂 $599 vr headsets, $700 PS5 Pros, $200 duel sense controllers. Like, wtf?!?
If you think that is a lot of money, wait until your mommy kicks you out of the house.
@@PepGuard-tp4ny What if she never kicks him like in many parts of the world?
Sony is in big-time debt. If the debt collectors come knocking, they are screwed.
@@PepGuard-tp4ny you don’t know the difference between “a lot of money” and “a lot of money to waste on a video game” (value)
Sony lost millions of dollars. They have to scam their way to get out of the red.
Max is a real 1. 1 of the few ppl at IGN that has no problem criticizing the things PlayStation has done this generation
As mentioned, the $700 price point is just in US dollars. In other regions, buyers are looking at the Pro starting at around $800 USD. If someone wants a BluRay drive, that's an additional $100 USD. So, the final price is around $900, and in some regions, closer to $1000, after conversions to USD. The counter-argument is when you start approaching the $1K mark, people can build, or buy a prebuilt PC that can do a lot more, and deliver on the promise the presentation tried to skirt around: Native 4K, 60fps gaming as a baseline standard.
In my eastern european country the Disc drive costs starting around 150$ and goes up to 200.
So?
Same company different products yall will continue to get b*rn3d
Dawg, _yk things are rough_ when _IGN_ of all sites are even roasting them, Sony really took a giant leap off a cliff for no reason
They didn't do it for no reason. They want people to switch to PC, so they can stop making hardware and focus on only making games. Then they can charge people ps+ to play their games on PC, since they are making PSN mandatory on all their PC games. This is their way of killing playstation without looking like the bad guys. This is literally a james bond villain level move, literally evil geniuses.
This still requires devs to update their games. It's not like Xbox that boosts frames without dev intervention...shadow of the Colossus, 1st party title, will still be 30fps in fidelity
This. If the price discourages (and it will / already did) a lot of buyers then 3rd party devs will have no incentive to patch their games so these hardware enhancements will be mostly useless.
50 games ready at launch. enough for u out of the gate. idiot.
Comparing to PC prices is a good point, but also reveals the problem: This isn’t going to convince the PC crowd to come over and it’s too focused on being marginally better to convince the console crowd to fork over $700
Honestly, if they said that they would increase ps4 game resolution from 1080p to 4k and have framerate unlock to 60fps on ps4 games, I’d buy it. That justifies the $700 price tag. The hardware is more than capable of doing it, idk why they refuse to do it
Yes it is 😂 my boy just moved to pc his rig with a 3070 ti last year was 3500$ he be having trouble with new games this year. And he plays with us for diablo 4 and complains that he spend too much
@@fabolousjada5070 Your "boy" must know nothing about technology or gaming to be ripped off that bad. $3500 for a 3070 is absolutely laughable. With a bit of shopping around, you can get a 4090 gaming PC for $2000
@@fabolousjada5070 stop lying! 3500$ get you a pc running a 4090 a i9 14900k and 64gb of ram plus 2tb ssd a mouse a keyboard and monitor
The industry drive to abolish disc drives is infuriating
Lol this title 🤣
Sony has become the Apple of gaming
And Xbox has become the Windows Phone of gaming 🤣
oof, console gamers as a whole are just getting done dirty this gen
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@@Michael-jr3gzI didn't mean to insult you personally lol
Always was tbh
No disc drive??? What the hell are we living in a digital or physical world?
Is anyone else bothered by the fact u can't backup your data on a external storage, only on the cloud😤😤
Yeah, that sucks. And also don't forget that there's no web browser
@@hogan4670sadly no more p*rn on ps5
It feels only yesterday when PS5 leaks came out and people were glazing it to be the greatest console ever made.
It is the greatest console ever made CURRENTLY. Most of these exclusives are so perfectly optimized that it makes pc games look shitty. You buy a new pc game, it’s buggy framerate issues even with solid builds. But you will get best performance for the price tag. Also the haptic feedback controllers adds layers of depth and immersion in your controller. Only a matter of time until the PS6 drops.
It’s been 4 plus years buddy
Nintendo is being proven right once again.
WE DON’T CARE ABOUT GRAPHICS. WE WANT GOOD GAMES!
Show me the call of duty on the Switch.
@@CodeVenomSnakes Right they be lying show lol show me that Mortal Kombat
still a playstation fan
@@CodeVenomSnakescall of duty is garbage
@@CodeVenomSnakes he said good games,not sheep games
Now is the perfect time for nintendo to come out and impress with switch 2 with new exclusive games, full backward compatability with regular switch and a decent price point.
In Brazil, the PS5 Pro will cost around R$7000,00, this convert to $1240,00.
This new price is insane.
$810 + 9% Tax - 1 Consumer = $0 Sold
Simply brilliant.
Got to love Max’s ‘The Homer’ reference as its the only things bringing a smile to my face when discussing the financial impact of the PS5 Pro.
Sony gave Nintendo a great opportunity to announce the Switch 2 for 399 or so next week!
Max keeps being the most genuine and interesting to hear presenter ever 💯 Keep going bro!
The title of this video is so incredibly witty and on point
They stole it from MoistCr1TiKaL/Charlie.
Nice title IGN. Finally a proper article from them.
If you connect ps5+ps4, you get ps9
More like PS3 Pro with that sticker price
If you divide PS9 by PS3, you get PS3. Three. Half-Life 3 confirmed!
@@AdAstra78🤣
I'm something of a scientist myself 😂
😂😂 this had me
If Xbox could do a price drop on series x. They will right now win millions of lovers. Could change the overall sentiment by burning some cash. That will be an epic comeback. Sony will be instantly demonized
They already are selling consoles in Japan for example. After the recent PS5 price increase, Series X/S shot up to the top 10 list of hot gaming items at a large and very popular Japanese electronics store. It wasn’t even in the top 200 before.
@@bandanna2388 they sold a few 100 extra xbox, thats nothing. false narrative.
xbox sx 2tb is $600. ps5 pro 2tb is $700. ur an idiot.
@@sithhunter965 cope
Couldnt give me a series x.
The biggest fail with the PS5 pro is there's no disc drive.
ABSOLUTELY AGREE BRO!!! 700BUCKS IT should include the drive & stang???? Imo ,another controller too!!! Fuck Sony greedy ass!!!
People kept mentioning “PlayStation 6” but what more can Sony do to upgrade a PlayStation to warrant a PS6?
Better frame rates for 4K and above. The improvement in frame rates has no limit.
@@user-2x5s-r5x6 that’s it? Why not just do it for PlayStation 5 Pro Plus or something if it’s just gonna be the same thing but with higher frame rates.
@@RichardHannay 100% agree.
We will actually get a massive CPU upgrade not just GPU upgrade and we can see more games made for exclusively for the ps6 is the expectation but Sony is hardly putting out a lot ps5 exclusive games so who knows how it will turn out.
BTW, $700 is 635 euros with today's rates. So, the 799 euros advertised in yesterday's tech presentation doesn't make sense.
Actually, in another article posted today locally in my (European) country, advertises PS5 Pro price at 650 euros (just a little bit more than 635 of the absolute rate conversion against US), which makes sense since our tax rates are higher than those of the US.
It makes you wonder that 650 and 799 are so distant numbers that Sony probably listed the absolute max pricing that reflects some markets and that real figures will be lower. An assumption of course to be soon proven...
I'm slowly exiting the gaming era of my life. I'll just stick with my PS4 Pro
Ps6 $899 ... stand, disc drive and power cable sold seperately
$999 without a controller
It will that way. Cost of living effects everyone. Even industry.
Even from PS4 to PS5 is like a drop in the ocean difference in terms of graphics…
Actually it's a big difference, have you not played Wukong yet?
Lol no
It's insane to think its more valid to stay on ps4 than to upgrade 4 YEARS into the ps5 life cycle lmao. Fuck it I'd rather have a ps3.
@@diglo123 What are you on about. There's no Wukong, Stellar Blade, Helldivers 2, Astro Bot, Returnal, Spider-Man 2, Baldurs Gate 3, no GTA6 on PS4
No final Fantasy Rebirth, you may as well go back to the PS1 with your kind of Logic
I'm still playing on my PS4. Still an excellent console with a ton of backlog games for me to finish. Was waiting to buy a Pro but no physical media killed it for me. Will stick my PS4 and PC.
This generation is more focused on the technical aspects more than the games.reason why the ps4 is still king
Useless overpriced console with no new games to promote it
Astro Bot just released
@@Michael-jr3gz he is talking about actual games
@@akashambroseAstro bot is a ACTUAL game 😂
@@fabolousjada5070 slow clap for calling that an actual game
@SMI77Y. Because it is, mofo. Is the game from 10 years ago, clown?
A "PRO" version should come with everything the product can give... Not less than the basic one.
Can't wait for IGN to do a piece on PC gaming called
"PC gaming: The expensive way to play PS4 games"
We need games that look so good that they justify the huge performance requirements they demand
No first party games releasing alongside the Pro says it all
You don’t know what’s coming at release and next year we got Wolverine, death stranding, the new god of war etc… so yeah come with something else
@@TheKing8608_ the console comes out in november and there are no first party games releasing then. Not exactly a playstation if theres nothing to play. At least we had concord for 2 weeks
@@TheKing8608_ New god of war??
@@TheKing8608_ death stranding isnt a first party game. and a new god of war game isnt even announced. So all you got is Wolverine. That comes out 1 year after the PS5 pro comes out.
I'm shocked that the presentation didn't mention that the Pro has 2TB storage space. Honestly that makes it much more worthy of the price to me and no one is talking about it. To get an SSD for another TB costs around $100. So to include that with the graphical upgrades when the PS5 (w/only 825gb) is $500, that seems worth it to me. It does still need to come with a disc drive though.
The presentation was terrible as a whole
@DonCapybara_86 Agreed. It totally seemed as though they had no idea how to market this console and realised they had to come up with something
They need a new marketing team. Nobody cares about graphics update, that’s expected with new consoles. They could’ve said something like unlocked frame rates for ps4 games and upscaled resolution to 4K. That would make it worth it too. 2TB storage would’ve been a much better selling point too.
The title is true, I'm still playing PS4 games on my PS5.
$450 ps5 slim no disc drive. Ps5 slim disc drive $500. Ps5 pro no disc drive $700. Im getting a 2TB SSD for my OG PS5.
Glad to see big game jornals, youtubers in general Showing indignation about this gen of playstation console to wake up the Sony. We need decent games, not a minimal improves in graphics who almost nobody notices. This is what really makes consoles sell. More games, not more graphics.
They should give disk drive for free
1:15 *extra $300 because there’s no disk drive. It should be compared to the digital version which is $400.
Good point
digital has 1TB, pro has 2TB so the difference is $150-200 (1TB costs ~$100)
Stop talking about gta 6. It isn’t coming out till 2 years from now. You buying a console for that now ? Or are you buying the console now because of the 12 dedicated ps5 games ?
How about PlayStation stop making ps4 games. And more ps5 games. And then try justifying this. Either way. I’m out on the $700 price.
People keep bringing up GTA 6 when talking about PS5 pro its starting to sound like stealth marketing from Sony to convince people that they need PS5 pro to play GTA 6. PS5 Pro is not releasing anywhere near GTA 6 release there is no need to bring it up as much as journalist and streamers are doing these days.
On another note we have no idea whether GTA 6 will be masterpiece or just another incomplete single player experience with microtransaction filled online like GTA 5. Gta San Andreas and 4 were way better than GTA 5 in my opinion.
It’s releasing in 2025 lil bro, your math aint mathing unless you’re talking about PC fellas.
Have Sony hired Don Mattrick without anyone noticing?
😂😂😂
this is an option mid gen console. its not being forced on you like a brand new generation. IDIOT.
No thanks......I will wait for the PS6. 😊
If you can't afford this you deffo won't afford ps6.
@@Etheral101Corporate shilling for an unnecessary product 🤮 you should do better.
Good luck with investing the future gen. PS6 might be even more useless and expensive considering this recent trend.
@@Etheral101who said he couldn't afford it??
I'll stick to the OG PS5 and my PC.
“The next leap in console gaming” Leap? Really? Leap!? 😭😂
That title is perfect.😂
Why do people keep saying the PS4 didn’t have HDR? The reason to upgrade to the PS4 Pro was for smoother/potentially higher frame rates, 4K, and a larger standard HDD. The standard PS4 already did HDR. HDR isn’t specific to 4K graphics. High to mid end LED TV’s were capable of displaying images enhanced with HDR.
Where are the games? Why are you releasing a more powerful console with no games?🤔😂
Plenty of games coming goofy try another route
It’s not more powerful just esthetic upgrades
@@SlimSkillz another dummy it is more powerful keep coping
@@TheKing8608_ Like? Wolverine and what else?
They need a trade in program, a disc drive discount voucher, something. They have a little time to make it more palatable
it will cost us 800 euros in Europe , like what's going on? Why does it cost less in USA?
"Hubris" was a good word to use in the vid, imo.
As a Rockstar fan it's an easy choice for me. When GTA 6 comes out everyone knows that PS5 Pro will be the best system to play it on for a good while before it comes out on PC.
As a rockstar fan, you sound dumb af🙄. In no way does that justify the price.
Most people would likely want to play GTA 6 on the PS5 Pro but theres absolutely no point running out to get one in November 24 to play a game they might release by November 25 all being well with no delays to it, you can guarentee at some point next year the PS5 Pro will be in sales for less money, right now the upgrade from PS5 to PS5 pro is more pointless than going from an iphone 15 to 16.
@@Rose-ko6sr: There are people, including myself, that bought GTA V when it was released the first three times. 360 > PC > Xbox One X.
Of course this solves a problem. 4k60 without looking like trash.... this has been needed since ps5 launch
No console is worth $700. At that price point, you’re flirting with pc prices. You’re literally telling gamers to invest in a pc when you price your console at the price you’re asking for.
A 4070 gpu alone will set you back 500$ a 3080 even more, you can trade your ps5 to get a pro for less than that. 2 tb ssd, a decent gpu and a controller is a decent little package for ppl who just doesn't care to play on a pc
Youre not building a better pc for $700 or even double that. My gpu alone cost $1200.
£700 is like $900, we are getting screwed in the UK! $700 is like £530, much more reasonable! The xsx and ps5 is £480 right now so only an additional £50 would have been a good pricepoint for them surley if they can price it that way in the US?
At this rate they will be selling the controller separately at PS6 launch
Not justifying the price, however people seem willing to spend double that on a new iPhone every year or two
Best game I’ve played on my PS5? Ghost of Tsushima
Is it me or does Max Scoville end every sentence with "again" even if he didn't make that same point earlier.
yeah keep saying its expensive but when it releases you guys will buy it and get to review it first
Yeah because they’re ign and might not even have to buy it but the average person probably isn’t gonna get this
Remember its $700 before tax so youre easily looking at a $750+. On top of that throw in a $5 piece of plastic stand that will probably cost $30 or more and how much for the disk drive? $150? $200?
I'm just here to see children call poor anyone who objects to Sony charging $700 for the PS5 Pro, because the only reason someone would argue about the price of something is having money or not.🙄
Weak argument
@@jamesdrumgoole6262 And here's Johnny!
$700 is expensive, but people seem to forget about inflation, if you compare the previous consoles price to this, it isn't that much higher.
No one is mentioning that the 2 tb Xbox series x is 600.00 with no extra power
A 2TB SSD with the original console isn’t a good deal? Since when? Show me where you can buy a RELIABLE 2TB with a XSX or PS5 for under $600.
@@WBaltimore never said it wasn’t a good deal. Great deal actually but how could the ps5 pro be the same price as the base Xbox series x. They had to go higher
@@BeezyBeGaming: I'm agreeing with you...
It's also a complete console...
Worst part is that they didn't even wait until something like GTA VI to give people a reason to have the "Best possible" gaming experience on release.
Their biggest marketing time will have passed by the time a game comes out that could have changed the tides, and by then folks will have only known the PS5 Pro for its tiny pixel differences. Especially since the alternative, a normal PS5, is no longer out of supply.
I'm out. Games haves gone too far into the performance vortex and the vacuum left has been filled with mobile gaming. Astro Bot is brilliant though!
As someone who doesn’t have a regular ps5 or any console this is perfect to grab but ngl 700 a lil steep but still buying it.
700 and You Even put the Damn stand base included!
Another thing to consider is those people who are only now choosing to upgrade were more than likely excepting the Pro to only be 100 more with a disc drive and now will more than likely see it and get a standard PS5 and forget about it.
Yep. This is basically me. Haven't had a PS since PS3. Lots of great PS4 and PS5 games for me to play, was waiting for ps5 pro. But now, in my local area, ps5 pro will cost almost 4x what a used ps5 will cost.
You guys are downplaying how shitty 4k 30fps is though it’s worth the upgrade to 60fps for the true next gen experience . It should have been $599 though with a disc drive
LMFAO! "the car built for Homer". Max nailed it.
Ps4 was a massive upgrade and launched at same price
Ps5 not a massive upgrade and is 300 $. (Discless to discless)
Nintendo did it better with Switch OLED. People questioned the lack of more powerful hardware but honestly they don't need it. Ppl still buy Switch, and a modest $50 increase for OLED screen that is both bigger and better is much more compelling than a system that is $250 more expensive for 1TB more SSD and pixel peeping improvements...
Casual gamers will be purchasing an xbox series-s to play GTA6. Truth. 18:48
The double-take, "read that again" TITLE yall put on this video, is DIABOLICAL 😂😂😂😂
The swing and miss with Concord and now this...Sony is looking pretty out of touch right now. Not to mention weak sales of PSVR2.
It would be a smart move when Phil Spencer will sell next gen consoles for 600ish dollars.
People should care about not having a disk drive. You dont own digital games, youre rentingbthem...
This was the best IGN video I’ve seen in ages.
It’s probably better to make the PS6
PS6 Coming too 2027 Maybe 2029 🤔
@@MohdFaizal-j3eps6 not coming till 2028/2029
Got my disc drive otw ready for the preorders to hit this gonna b a beast🔥🔥🔥🔥
Considering the 2TB edition of the Xbox Series X is $599, the PS5 Pro is actually priced appropriately (not saying it isn't expensive). You're living in fantasy land if you think you're getting the PS5 Pro at the same price as a weaker console.
It's about more than just power tho, there's no value in a powerful console that can only play proprietary software if there isn't any proprietary software taking advantage of said power
Except the Xbox series X 2TB console stands and has a disc drive. Going straight digital and forcing people to buy the PS5 Pro Stand separately along with external disc drive separately - and still $700 for the console with less features?!? If they wanted to charge $700 it should have had BOTH the stand AND the disc drive included. As this video proves, there is next to no reason to buy this console right now - the existing games look great as is. They might as well have just called this PS6 and been done with it. Maybe they would have gotten some traction. But showing off PS4 games that still look great on PS4 that really don’t look or play any different - is it really worth the price right now? No.
@@cantrip97there’s plenty of games that’s gonna take full utilization of the pro nice try tho
people just crying to cry that werent buying it anyway the funny thing about this is most of these idiots dont even own a 4k TV to actually utilize the PS5 pros power correctly
@@TheKing8608_: name one. Because RIGHT NOW they didn’t show anything that gives us a reason to drop $700+ on this thing. Until they have the games that take advantage of it, there is NO reason to spend the money on this RIGHT NOW.
Miss y'all! great episode!
Try to put together a pc for $700 that will play games at the same level of performance as the ps5 pro, with the same level of fast ssd storage, have the same length of support from developers, be able to play gta 6 on release, and have a hassle free experience without having to look at used pc parts to scramble together something even close. Oh and just a reminder that most GPUs by themselves are 300-600$+ in today’s market. But people are complaining about a $700 box that gives you everything you need to plug and play? Either get a job or find another hobby. Things get more expensive over time, big whoop.
Amen. I'm trading in my launch PS5 and getting it day 1 because performance mode is getting pretty low resolution now. People are just willfully ignorant and love to be negative. There's a reason the gaming community has a bad reputation
The funny thing is limited function device like PS portal cost $250 and it sold out everywhere, but suddenly ps5 pro cost $700 is such a big deal and considered anti consumer lol.