One adverse property of the Connect Adjust, and to some degree the others, is if it is fully weighted, you can't release it to let more slack out. Normally this might not be an issue, but on a Tyrolean I was stuck too high and could not get my feet onto a ledge, forcing me to invert, swing a leg over the rope, to unweight the Adjust. Purcell knots remain adjustable when fully loaded, something to keep in mind.
Can the dual connect vario be used for similar purposes as a typical sling-derived anchor? Top-roping, installing a fixed line, e.t.c? Or is it only certified for use as a belay station?
I assume this is for rappelling. According to this video twist lock carabiners are not recommended when rappelling because they have the possibility of being unlocked by the rope: th-cam.com/video/6Xb0ajjlTis/w-d-xo.htmlsi=50_oZcWbdfsGXAnA&t=404 Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Yeah that's my guess, generally belaying/rappelling with a 2-stage twist lock that the rope runs through is a bit bad form because it's pretty easy to rub it weird and pop it open. For a GriGri or personal tether, however, where no moving rope runs through the carabiner, twist lock is fine. Screw gate takes longer to accidentally open with the rope running over it, but it can still happen.
@@Govanification and what about triple lock carabiners? They are much harder to open by accident than twist lock, and you never forget to close it like in a screw lock
@@rui_mcf Triple lockers are the safest, but also slowest to use. I use a triple action on my tube belay device, but still use 2-stage twist locks on my personal tether because it's faster.
I assume this is for rappelling. According to this video twist lock carabiners are not recommended when rappelling because they have the possibility of being unlocked by the rope: th-cam.com/video/6Xb0ajjlTis/w-d-xo.htmlsi=50_oZcWbdfsGXAnA&t=404 Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
what would be the difference between the dual connect adjust and the dual canyon guide? they seem virtually identical. I bought the dual connect adjust and was recomended not to use it with the canyon guide harness throught the ventral attachment point, but the dual canyon guide yes.
The DUAL CANYON GUIDE lanyard and the CANYON GUIDE harness were made to nest perfectly together using a specific attachment point, leaving the metal ventral point free for other uses and attachments. Girth hitching the DUAL CONNECT ADJUST lanyard to the ventral point is also a valid option, although it quickly clusters up the ventral point leaving little room for your rappel system and/or suspending a pack during tight squeezes.
I assume the screw lock is for rappelling. According to this video twist lock carabiners are not recommended when rappelling because they have the possibility of being unlocked by the rope: th-cam.com/video/6Xb0ajjlTis/w-d-xo.htmlsi=50_oZcWbdfsGXAnA&t=404 Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Ideally, the ATTACHE is a more perfect pairing with the REVERSO if you are planning to rappel on two strands of rope. The WILLIAM is more ideal as a master point at a belay station or for rappelling on two strands using a munter hitch.
The Progress Adjust is for the use with the professional and not with the sport harnesses. The rope has a bigger diameter (1 or 2 mm more) and the adjust device is a little bigger. For connection with the harness there is only a small hole, to be used with an aditional carabiner or to be directly connected to the Astro harness.
Hi, could I use the Dual Connect Adjust to belay as a station? If yes, do you have any video links you can share to further demonstrate? I do have the quick adjust but not sure if this can also be used at a belay station for belaying. I appreciate the feed back. Great products overall.
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just got mine. its awesome, so clean
One adverse property of the Connect Adjust, and to some degree the others, is if it is fully weighted, you can't release it to let more slack out. Normally this might not be an issue, but on a Tyrolean I was stuck too high and could not get my feet onto a ledge, forcing me to invert, swing a leg over the rope, to unweight the Adjust. Purcell knots remain adjustable when fully loaded, something to keep in mind.
The Purcell is a great option as a DIY lanyard. At bit fiddly in most situations, requiring two hands to adjust it, but otherwise a valid option.
Can the dual connect vario be used for similar purposes as a typical sling-derived anchor? Top-roping, installing a fixed line, e.t.c? Or is it only certified for use as a belay station?
Why the choice of twist carabiner in long arm and screw carabiner in short one?
I assume this is for rappelling. According to this video twist lock carabiners are not recommended when rappelling because they have the possibility of being unlocked by the rope:
th-cam.com/video/6Xb0ajjlTis/w-d-xo.htmlsi=50_oZcWbdfsGXAnA&t=404
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Im sure its bomber but I do like to double up whatever anchor I make.
The Petzl website suggests that the Connect Adjust be used with a Spirit carabiner while the video shows and SM'd. Is one ideal over the other?
Why the suggestion for different lockers? Not rapping on a twist lock? Just curious
Yeah that's my guess, generally belaying/rappelling with a 2-stage twist lock that the rope runs through is a bit bad form because it's pretty easy to rub it weird and pop it open. For a GriGri or personal tether, however, where no moving rope runs through the carabiner, twist lock is fine. Screw gate takes longer to accidentally open with the rope running over it, but it can still happen.
@@Govanification and what about triple lock carabiners? They are much harder to open by accident than twist lock, and you never forget to close it like in a screw lock
@@rui_mcf Triple lockers are the safest, but also slowest to use. I use a triple action on my tube belay device, but still use 2-stage twist locks on my personal tether because it's faster.
Please explain why the suggestion to use different type of lockers.
See what I wrote, below.
I assume this is for rappelling. According to this video twist lock carabiners are not recommended when rappelling because they have the possibility of being unlocked by the rope:
th-cam.com/video/6Xb0ajjlTis/w-d-xo.htmlsi=50_oZcWbdfsGXAnA&t=404
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Um clove hitch much?
Are they all Dynamic string?
Would these be safe to wrap around a tree? Meaning, using only one of these to connect from the arness, around a tree, and back to the arness?
I'd purchase one of these of the connection point was just the rope with extra length for a figure 8 at the tie in points of the harness.
what would be the difference between the dual connect adjust and the dual canyon guide? they seem virtually identical. I bought the dual connect adjust and was recomended not to use it with the canyon guide harness throught the ventral attachment point, but the dual canyon guide yes.
The DUAL CANYON GUIDE lanyard and the CANYON GUIDE harness were made to nest perfectly together using a specific attachment point, leaving the metal ventral point free for other uses and attachments. Girth hitching the DUAL CONNECT ADJUST lanyard to the ventral point is also a valid option, although it quickly clusters up the ventral point leaving little room for your rappel system and/or suspending a pack during tight squeezes.
Couldnt the Dual Connect Adjust be used to build an anchor as the Vario?
It is not validated for that use primarily because the loop is created using stitching and not a knot like with the VARIO.
Does anyone pair the dual adjust with two twist locks? Is the one screw lock a much better set up?
I assume the screw lock is for rappelling. According to this video twist lock carabiners are not recommended when rappelling because they have the possibility of being unlocked by the rope:
th-cam.com/video/6Xb0ajjlTis/w-d-xo.htmlsi=50_oZcWbdfsGXAnA&t=404
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
What's the point of that little rubber "positioning ring"?
connectors are held in position by a rubber ring, to facilitate clipping
I thought the SM’D wasn’t an ideal carabiner for use with the Reverso? William is better suited?
Ideally, the ATTACHE is a more perfect pairing with the REVERSO if you are planning to rappel on two strands of rope. The WILLIAM is more ideal as a master point at a belay station or for rappelling on two strands using a munter hitch.
@@petzlna why doesn’t Petzl make the attaché in a tri-act version?
What's the difference with the Petzl PROGRESS ADJUST-I Progression Lanyard ?
The Progress Adjust is for the use with the professional and not with the sport harnesses.
The rope has a bigger diameter (1 or 2 mm more) and the adjust device is a little bigger.
For connection with the harness there is only a small hole, to be used with an aditional carabiner or to be directly connected to the Astro harness.
Can these be used as edge protection when setting up systems on edge?
Hi, could I use the Dual Connect Adjust to belay as a station? If yes, do you have any video links you can share to further demonstrate? I do have the quick adjust but not sure if this can also be used at a belay station for belaying. I appreciate the feed back. Great products overall.
Only the DUAL CONNECT VARIO is approved for using as an equalized belay station.
A reverso?
atc guide
Are they all Dynamic string?
All three are made with 9.5mm dynamic climbing rope