ACME made something similar back in the 1960's. A thin black disk could be laid on the ground and instantly become a tunnel to wherever the operator needed to go. This technology was used extensively to attempt to trap roadrunners.
ACME also experimented with a version that could be applied to the side of a cliff like paint. They had to abandon this since it would sometimes spontaneously produce a speeding locomotive that would run over the person applying the "paint".
@@HansTheGreatestApocPlayerhave bombers loiter in the sky while tracking it and bomb the piss out of it when it surfaces. Remember, you may not be able to shoot them, but they can't shoot you either, so being able to track them while remaining undetected will almost guarantee a win.
never underestimate a smart man with the near endless wealth and power of a totalitarian state that covers 1/3rd of the entire earth's non-ocean surface at his back.
Exactly!! Some of those designs could be useful even today!! I always knew ekranoplans would eventually come back, one way or the other, just not in the original Soviet conception... turns out, Iran has now a fleet of these quasi-planes, intended to harass the US warships in the Persian Gulf. Ternary computers have some advantages over binary, and so far nobody's been back to Venus... we need to convince Elon te create a modern Venera to explore Earth's twin, it'd be amazing
Considering that boring a tunnel with humongous dedicated equipment inclunding similar machine takes years and costs billions I cannot fathom what kind of stupid went into "military pays for R&D"
I think it's pretty obvious from the war in Ukraine that what Russia claims to have in millitary hardware is severely exagerated. If Russia's millitary was just half as powerful as it claimed, the Ukraine war would have been over within 3 days. I wouldn't be surprised if even it's nuclear arsenal is just a bluff.
Considering how higgs Boson has become, viable technology. To destroy the higgs Boson makes this absolutely a highly probable, and affordable piece of equipment.
6:55 TNT, which stands for trinitrotoluene, is not the same as black powder. Black powder, also known as gunpowder, is a mixture of potassium nitrate, charcoal, and sulfur. It's historically used in firearms and fireworks. TNT, on the other hand, is a yellow crystalline compound used primarily as an explosive material. While both TNT and black powder are used for explosive purposes, they are chemically different substances with distinct properties and compositions.
@b18c5vtececlipse That's what I was going to say!! :P Just kidding. I gave up chemical engineering classes many years ago, but I did know how to spell out TNT from the Halloween comedy movie "Spaced Invaders"
Something like this would be more practical for going through ice. I think NASA has plans for a small one to melt through miles of ice to get to Europa's subsurface ocean. Tunneling through rock at the speed depicted in the video would be impossible not to mention how noisy and easily detectable the mole would be making it useless for offensive military applications.
As soon as I heard that, I thought, "How in the fuck would you transport/carry/implement the fuel for a device that could _melt_ through the earth at anything approaching a reasonable speed?".
@@AnonymOus-ss9jj Musk's a Midas, everything he touches breaks. His own adult children, all his ex's have abandoned him. Check out Adam Something's objective analyses on Musk's companies and ideas.
There was an old 1960's British kids TV show made with puppets called Thunderbirds, everyone age 5-10yrs watched it. As a humanitarian rescue agency with wild vehicles they had a digging machine called The Mole. You could have just used footage from the TV show because the concept shown here is that close lol, even down to the scaffold to angle it downwards to get digging.
In my day in the 90s we had Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and two characters called Bebop and Rocksteady had a underground submarine with a corkscrew up front and they were my favorite. I had their action figures and the land submarine, got it along with $250 worth of other Turtles action figures and vehicles and weapons for Christmas when I was 8. I am 39 in March.
In the 70s I saw a documentary about constructions of the future in which they showed things that are commonly used in construction today. And one of the ones that surprised me the most was a tunneling machine, which was a giant tungsten tip that was heated to red hot and was capable of melting the earth and digging a tunnel, whose walls looked like rock crystal. It was a fairly large platform, with the operator lowering the metal tip slowly. It would not be unreasonable to think that this system was secretly developed in later years.
Newer models look like large bells, and the heat is used to power and propell it forward. There is minimal vibration due to high heat, and when noticed there are assumed to be natural lava tubes.
@@Kishanth.J If we make modifications for these things then it's just going to be the same slow drilling machine we have, but with an undersupervised nuclear reactor
@@Kishanth.J they seem faster because they don't exist and you can make it look as fast as you want. Digging tunnels is big business worldwide, if there were a better, faster option that could be done with technology from the 60s, it would already be in use.
This vehicle reminded me of the Thanderbirds. If it were truly possible, it would be excellent for building tunnels, underground bases, and deep mining.
The best solution would probably be to use a MASER to melt the rock in front of you (that way you directly heat the rock instead of having to heat some part of the vehicle to crazy temperatures), and then use some mecchanical means (like screws and things like that) to push the molten (or maybe just softened) rock around and then behind you. But managing the heat trapped in the rock around you would still be a huge problem, probably without solution. Maybe the only way arount it would be accepting that the main mode of operation for your vechicle is to mechanically dig through dirt or soft/loose rocks and only engaging the heating device for very short times to help with sections of harder rock (having to move past the heated section, proceed some more mechanically and then wait for a cooldown period each time).
Thought they would use focused acoustic cavitation to form a precisely positioned fracture in the rock. Remove the fractured piece, ship it out, rinse, and repeat.
You need to consider higgs boson..., and what can be done with material that has been eviscerated. An example for you is what happened to all of the debris all of the concrete that was collapsed in the twin towers. It doesn't have a requirement for excessive heat.
As it is impossible for nuclear reactors to explode in a thermonuclear fireball, this story about the test of the Soviet „battle mole“ is obviously not true…
It could have had a meltdown without _literally_ exploding. They said it was melting solid stone around it, so I could believe the cooling system for the reactor got overloaded.
@@Sue_Me_Too That still would not result in a "thermonuclear explosion" You can't accidentally set off a thermonuclear explosion, it requires an extreme amount of explosive force *precisely* focused equally around a core of pure fissile material, which are only used in weapons and not in reactors.
@@viysnjor4811 I agree, but a nuclear reactor might _regular_ explode while it's melting down. Coolant tanks rupturing and that kind of thing. It's NOT a thermonuclear explosion, but it IS a hot, radioactive explosion. If you describe it like that, I could see it getting mistranslated as "thermonuclear"
@@Sue_Me_Too I doubt it's a translation error, Thermonuclear in Russian is "Termoyaderniy", ("termo" = "thermal", "yaderniy" = "nuclear") while "Radioactive" is "radioaktivniy" and explosion is "vzriv" or "detonatsiya" I'd need to see the original Russian papers myself to say for sure, but what I'm getting at is these aren't really terms that could *be* mistranslated, as they are scientific terminology in both languages and not idioms or metaphors or other abstract ideas.
While there may be a possibility that a machine like this could be made to work in near liquid permafrost in Russia, as someone who has worked in hard rock mining and tunneling for 20 years, there's no way it could operate at any useful speed or as per the catchy animation at all. IF it was possible to use these methods, then every mining company in the world would be using them instead of the slow and laborious drill and blast methods currently in use. The best hard rock advance rates in a standard decline mine (6x5.5m) are usually 3 'cuts' per 24hrs of 5-6m advance each. Problem no. 2 is what do you do with all the 'spoil', or loosened rock as you advance? You can't leave it in the hole ahead of the machine, and you can't 'swim' through it... Problem no 3, how do you replace the cutting bits on the drill head while travelling at 7km/h 🤷 What cutting bits do you use? Most cutting tools on rotary cutter type machines are only good for rock up to 80mpa or there abouts, after which you need to change to drill and blast mining. Burning holes through the rock ahead with some kind of magical nuclear laser would melt the machine when you pass through it. Never happened 🙂👍
@@FINMrCurly Without pumping water into the tunnel to wash out debris the mechanism would be exceedingly inefficient. The drill has to cut a path big enough for the whole vehicle, but the conveyor mechanism has to be just a small part of the diameter.
@@Pixel22-fs3tt TBMs can help build tunnels which can be used for defense. For example, Pyongyang, arguably the most fortified/well-defended city on Earth, has an extensive tunnel network deep under the city.
I have one suggestion for you. Try to research the project of the former Yugoslavia, the supersonic plane "NA or YU sonic". I think it would be a good video. Because it shows how much that country was thinking about the future of military aviation at that time, and later with the collapse of the country all those people who worked on the project went to various world airlines. Just one example, they developed voice commands on airplanes, and all that at the end of the eighties. I hope to see a good video about this Greetings from Serbia✌️
I would think that various grades of bedrock and unknown caverns or watertables would be a massive issue. As it is, the drill that cut the tunnel under Seattle took years to finish, so long that we weren't sure the project funding would even survive. And that drill get hung up on a small metal tube that required months of work to remove
If the definition of "land submarine" is "enormous vehicle that move underground breaking through soil and rock", well, its not that rare. Its called Tunnel Boring Machine and it has a speed of, well, several tens of meter per day?
This may be only rumors... May be not. When I was a kid, there was a competition ran by "Modelist- Konstructor" magazine, for the best design of underground self propelled vehicle, in Soviet Union. I did participate in it as well as thousands and thousands of other kids. Imagine how many designs did they receive and processed. Of course, my design did not take the prise, but now I am a Drilling Engineer and i still have the reply letter from that magazine! 😂
As someone who was in underground construction for 10yrs I assure you the second you hit a 56,000psi granite seam you’re “land submarine” would come to a very quick halt.
I love the idea of taking something that whilst underwater is practically impossible to find, then putting that in rock where it leaves a perfect trail of the exact path it took.... 😂😂😂 And this alm9st certainly DID NOT happen. There is a reason that tunnels aren't dug this fast and basically its just not possible. With how 9ften the cutting head would need to be replaced, the amount of earth it would displace if it actually could move at a brisk walking pace co sidering even the most expensive and advance tunnel boring machines today aren't even half that quick. It's just not actually possible on a physics level. First the cutter would disintegrate and melt if it were moving that fast, plus they would have to stop every few inches to back out, change the cutter. Then get moving again. And if something that large really could go through rock that quick it would melt the rock, but would very easily melt the metal on the machine itself.... 😂😂😂
First, rocks have lower melting point than most alloys. Second. I don't think we have rights to say what was stupid and in what way. It was previous generations of scientists and engineers, they weren't have our amount of knowledge and experience, as well half of today's technologies. Things that today knows every first grader, wasn't so obvious for them. Even more, they was actually the ones who discovered this knowledge. Just watch first projects of jet planes, space ships, from both USSR and USA. Amount of mistakes that was made huge. And it almost impossible that everything worked as intended.
@@Jedai_Games Hmm; I have to disagree. There were many people back then that knew this idea was a no-go, so to speak. Rock was just as hard and unyielding then as it is now; they understood thermodynamics well enough to know a vehicle like this could never have enough power to work, or enough strength to survive.
With the US design for an underground submarine, using heat isn't just military anymore. Recently, a start up, forgot the name, started using the technology used in fusion reactor research as the source of the heat for the beam to drill for kilometers straight down to get to real sources of geothermal heat for energy. The drill is seen to be a lot cheaper, and way faster, than a mechanical drill, and a lot safer for everyone.
Correct Bechtel, a private military contractor was using a nuclear submarine reactor in a under ground boring machine. Someone on the Shawn Ryan podcast brought it up not to long ago.
Bechtel bought the Electronic Warfare company I used to work for long ago. If anyone could do that kind of stuff, I imagine it would include them. @@StephenAMG63
Even if you had a nuclear-powered-rock-melting laser, you still have to remove all of that [now molten] material in order to actually _dig a hole._ We use a big CNC laser cutter at work and it needs a 60PSI jet of compressed nitrogen blowing liquid metal out of the kerf in order to actually *cut* anything.
It makes sense why the Brotherhood of Nod in command and conquer had them as they took it after the fall the the Soviet union. The game is very well thought out.
Thermonuclear from a reactor? Everyone’s favourite black powder, dynamite? A little script revision and fact checking wouldn’t go astray. I can tell that a lot of effort is put into these videos, these mistakes do bring down the quality a bit though.
I would think the research aided current capabilities in horizontal drilling for oil and gas. Directional boring is a common technique for installing small (
Why is the drill bit up front spinning the wrong way? Gerry Anderson made the same mistake with “The Mole” in “Thunderbirds” which I suspect the people planning this drew inspiration from
This reminds me off seeing the huge burrow machines making new subway lines in Manhattan,NYC extending the 2nd Ave line on the east side.the size of the shafts are just huge in size just jaw dropping
For those like me watching who play Space Engineers, take this concept and build an underground mobile Base! I’d do it, but my PC struggles to run space engineers. (Also because of this, I don’t have much practice with building this stuff myself in game)
Musk owned several drilling machines that could travel up to roughly 40.25 kph (25 mph) through solid rock. In 1976 The Guinness World Record-holding fastest tunnel boring machine can cut over 7 meters an hour,
@@duelde-consulting6403 You are talking complete nonsense to hype up Elon, and here's the proof straight from The Boring Company Wiki: Las Vegas Convention Center In May 2019, the company won a $48.7 million project to shuttle visitors in a loop underneath the LVCC. Boring of the *first tunnel,* 4,475 feet (1,364 m) long, *began* on November 15, 2019, and *finished* on February 14, 2020, excavating an average of 49 feet (15 m) *per day.* Edit: Now you're claiming 7 miles per day to me back at your own comment. Which is it? 25mph or 7mpd? Care to provide a link to back up your ever-changing story?
6:55 TNT is white yellowish powder/solid but gunpowder is called black powder which was used for explosions before invention of everyones favourite explosive for safe explosion dynamite (also before it was glycerine but it was also very unstable)
Nitroglycerine is still the explosive in traditional dynamite, it's just not very popular anymore because modern plastic explosives are so much safer to use.
And so we now know the movie ‘Battle beneath the Earth’ is actually a documentary. 😁 This must have been something discussed more than we think, the Japanese model kit companies took the idea and ran with it, I think it was Fujimi. Mole Tanks. Large and small. One even carried a small one-man flying disc for aerial scouting after ‘surfacing’ . Of course these designs were more ‘toys you build’ and were dripping with missile launchers and rotating radar antennas, very impractical and pretty impossible for underground travel. But boy was the box art exciting! ETA: wrong company, it was KSN Midori, it was called the Ultra Moguras. There was also the Junior Mogura and the Big Moguras. Oh wow and a King Moguras. I have fallen down a mole tank rabbit hole! 😄 KSN just loved making sci-fi tank toy/models it seems.
Palmer Luckey at Anduril has talked about this idea at length, and has indicated that they've already built working examples and are undergoing testing.
Thank you :) I haven't heard of this Leviathan even though I'm Russian :) Next I'm expecting a story of an underground air... no - submarine carrier! It could carry naval nuclear submarines from one ocean to another under the ground where no one can detect them! Must come up with some epic name for this monster - like Admiral Kozlov (or would Kirov be more epic?)
I'll tell you what happened to 'em, The Shredder was using them as transit from the Technodrome under Manhattan for most of the late 80's until he was defeated by the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
How America makes their DUMBs. But instead of digging out and disposing of the spoil, theirs use lasers to melt the rocks and seal the walls to a glass smooth finish that supports the tunnel.
Underground drillers have been making tunnels for the subway systems in American cities. What have they done after the tunnels were done? How about Deep Underground Military Bunkers?
Of the four mines that did not go off and was left in place . One exploded in about ( I think 1950) . By this time it was farm land and luckily no one was killed . It was thought to have been lightning that set it off.
Getting indeed vibes of thunderbirds, teenage mutant ninja turtles and the NOD subterranean APC. That being said, having worked with cutter suction dredgers which cut rock, you have (steel with tungsten inserts) wear parts that need replacement every so often due to abrasion. Tungsten itself is too brittle so a rod of it must be held together with a steel teeth, same goes with TBMs and drum cutters. At some point the soil becomes too hard to economically drill and the cost effective solution is to drill and blast. The cut rock needs to go somewhere (it takes up more volume when broken), loose soil, clay and peat have pores and may be pushed aside, not so with solid rock. It's a nice science fiction concept, but that's what it is, fiction!
Not just them, Nosecone from the Transformers, the Pit Viper from G.I. Joe, and the Magma Mole from M.A.S.K. (Mobile Armored Strike Kommand) all then likely drew inspiration from these things.
Seeing that there are rumors that there is a massive underground tunnel network underneath North America, one would wonder how far it went with the U.S.,
It would take a lot of years to drill tunnel that far. And keeping a vacuum in them to prevent air resistance form stopping the cylindrical shaped fast subway modules .. Engineering and cost and obstacles would be a nightmare. Who knows.
"we did it we built an underground tunneling machine" Great, how fast is it? "Uh it goes about 1 in an hour and then cooks everyone inside as soon as the hole is big enough to be a rock oven!"
self-contained drilling machines like this could make a return on other planets, since underground shelters would allow structures to be made with minimal materials and utilising the ground for shielding from radiation exposure
The Belgian professor Barabas actually invented this. He called his invention the Terranef. It was actually functional and he and his friends used it for many of their adventures!
I can see some flaws to this.. like how do they know where they are going? And imagine you're just drilling through earth and without your knowing there is a Ginormous underground cavern and you just fall.. or you drill right into a caldera.. what's the contingency if the machine breaks down and your thousands of feet below ground.. This is basically a drilling coffin..
you forgot about its combat use by an ancient tribe during the historical battle at the outer wall of Ba Sing Se. though transported overland by its own wheels, the tribe solved both the cooling and the waste problems in one genius feat of engineering
a conventional tunnel digger could be improved with the introduction of a reactor to supply power instead of bringing the power down in long cables, but the use case for that would only really be beneficial in say replacing undersea cables and pipelines with ones below the seabed
ACME made something similar back in the 1960's. A thin black disk could be laid on the ground and instantly become a tunnel to wherever the operator needed to go. This technology was used extensively to attempt to trap roadrunners.
ACME made those incredible holes which transcended modern physics yet those tiny umbrellas were useless against falling boulders.
Beep beep 🦊
ACME also experimented with a version that could be applied to the side of a cliff like paint. They had to abandon this since it would sometimes spontaneously produce a speeding locomotive that would run over the person applying the "paint".
Now i want a parody of this channel, Same serious presentation/british voice, but with ACME stuff lol.
Don't forget the "tunnel paint". 😅
No, the MOST unbelievable part of the Soviet story is that it left an empty tunnel behind it. Where did all those tons of earth and rock go?
It becomes diamonds.
Which shows the true ingenuity of this design.
Science!
@@juanjoseleonvarea2495Perhaps you should listen at 4:05 and try again.
So it somehow compressed and melted countless tons of rock at speed? Conservation of mass would like a word with you.
@@Elmerjordan It used waste heat from fission to melt the rock.
*“BEHOLD, THE UNDERMINER!”*
*Queue: Michael Giacchino - Consider Yourselves Undermined! (From "Incredibles 2"/Audio Only)*
hahah yes i was scouring the comments for this exact quote
I AM BENEATH YOU, BUT THERE IS NOTHING BENEATH ME
But where is my supersuit
Turns out Hamas stole some of these!
All you would need is three seismometers and you could track such things even more easily than a submarine.
Thank you! "Undetected"? No Way!
yep, but how would you hit them?
Absolutely
@@HansTheGreatestApocPlayerhave bombers loiter in the sky while tracking it and bomb the piss out of it when it surfaces. Remember, you may not be able to shoot them, but they can't shoot you either, so being able to track them while remaining undetected will almost guarantee a win.
@@207KalashBoy what if they just plant some bombs under their targets?
military really said "worm but bigger"
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Real....woomy
Wiggle wiggle wiggle yeah
IA-02 Ice Worm?
Dildo but bigger. Military grade.
If NOD did not lose from GDI, we would have them as public transport by now!
Yeah, but if NOD won, we'd also have tick tanks, so...
@@majormissile5596 Yeah but then you could lay in that tick tank with thick rank NOD babe Oxanna Kristos
Kane lives!
This channel needs to comb the Command and Conquer series starting with the TD and see what it can turn up.
Kane lives!
Soviets had some pretty crazy ideas even though most of them were impractical but still I respect the imagination of their engineers.
never underestimate a smart man with the near endless wealth and power of a totalitarian state that covers 1/3rd of the entire earth's non-ocean surface at his back.
when you see something weird with a word “nuclear after it you will know its origin is 100% soviet union
Exactly!! Some of those designs could be useful even today!! I always knew ekranoplans would eventually come back, one way or the other, just not in the original Soviet conception... turns out, Iran has now a fleet of these quasi-planes, intended to harass the US warships in the Persian Gulf. Ternary computers have some advantages over binary, and so far nobody's been back to Venus... we need to convince Elon te create a modern Venera to explore Earth's twin, it'd be amazing
@@cageybee7221 Bbbbuuut innovation is impawsible under communism!!!
@@cageybee72211/6
The Mole was my favourite International Rescue machine after Thunderbird 2.
Ah, Nostalgia.
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Fellow cultured individual 🍷🗿
@@yellowbacon69 Heyhey!
@@sawer hey!
Mr Hackenbacker succeeded in making this concept work, and everyone else failed.
Considering that boring a tunnel with humongous dedicated equipment inclunding similar machine takes years and costs billions I cannot fathom what kind of stupid went into "military pays for R&D"
Never underestimate people in power going down the rabbit hole through ego, or obsession.
This reminded me of a quote from a russian comic
"Oh, it's funny yeah?"
"THIS IS RUSSIA"
I think it's pretty obvious from the war in Ukraine that what Russia claims to have in millitary hardware is severely exagerated. If Russia's millitary was just half as powerful as it claimed, the Ukraine war would have been over within 3 days. I wouldn't be surprised if even it's nuclear arsenal is just a bluff.
It takes years and costs billions to do it _safely._ Remember who we're talking about.
Considering how higgs Boson has become, viable technology. To destroy the higgs Boson makes this absolutely a highly probable, and affordable piece of equipment.
6:55 TNT, which stands for trinitrotoluene, is not the same as black powder. Black powder, also known as gunpowder, is a mixture of potassium nitrate, charcoal, and sulfur. It's historically used in firearms and fireworks. TNT, on the other hand, is a yellow crystalline compound used primarily as an explosive material. While both TNT and black powder are used for explosive purposes, they are chemically different substances with distinct properties and compositions.
Yeah, came here looking for a comment about this - sort of embarrassing scriptwriting for an 'engineering' channel.
@b18c5vtececlipse
That's what I was going to say!! :P Just kidding. I gave up chemical engineering classes many years ago, but I did know how to spell out TNT from the Halloween comedy movie "Spaced Invaders"
@@BillSentry Don't need to know much chemistry to know that black powder =/= self-oxidizing high explosive compound
Found And Explained’s alternate title in an alternate universe, “What happened to Water Subterrenes?”
Wouldn't it be "Lost and confused"
@@HooniCoonCustoms Lost and not explained 😂
Something like this would be more practical for going through ice. I think NASA has plans for a small one to melt through miles of ice to get to Europa's subsurface ocean.
Tunneling through rock at the speed depicted in the video would be impossible not to mention how noisy and easily detectable the mole would be making it useless for offensive military applications.
They took it seriously.
Systems and Cost Analysis for a Nuclear Subterrene Tunneling ... www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/4444905?shem=ssusxt
As soon as I heard that, I thought, "How in the fuck would you transport/carry/implement the fuel for a device that could _melt_ through the earth at anything approaching a reasonable speed?".
And then they discover eldritch like creatures living under europa's surface and then out of nowhere comes along a cult based on clowns.
@@clueless4085 It is easy part. Cooling is the hard part.
@@peceed if its melting through the ice then the ice around it cools it, not efficiently but its good enough
Lights at the back of the land submarine is in particular helpful.
Allows workers behind it to see while putting in tunnel supports
Wait, do yall not realize that is not a light? I mean, its a freaking vent for the reactor heat.
Took me 7 years to realize that the boring company's name is a pun for tunnel bore machines 😅
Better late than never...
Ah yes. The infamous BoringX.
How is it a pun? Also what did you think was meant by boring? Do you think Musk just named the company "dull" to attract investors?
@@AnonymOus-ss9jj Musk's a Midas, everything he touches breaks. His own adult children, all his ex's have abandoned him.
Check out Adam Something's objective analyses on Musk's companies and ideas.
a bit late, they are out of business
There was an old 1960's British kids TV show made with puppets called Thunderbirds, everyone age 5-10yrs watched it. As a humanitarian rescue agency with wild vehicles they had a digging machine called The Mole.
You could have just used footage from the TV show because the concept shown here is that close lol, even down to the scaffold to angle it downwards to get digging.
In my day in the 90s we had Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and two characters called Bebop and Rocksteady had a underground submarine with a corkscrew up front and they were my favorite. I had their action figures and the land submarine, got it along with $250 worth of other Turtles action figures and vehicles and weapons for Christmas when I was 8. I am 39 in March.
Thunderbirds original was super neat due to models and puppets used. CGI sucks balls compared to practical effects.
In the 70s I saw a documentary about constructions of the future in which they showed things that are commonly used in construction today. And one of the ones that surprised me the most was a tunneling machine, which was a giant tungsten tip that was heated to red hot and was capable of melting the earth and digging a tunnel, whose walls looked like rock crystal. It was a fairly large platform, with the operator lowering the metal tip slowly. It would not be unreasonable to think that this system was secretly developed in later years.
Newer models look like large bells, and the heat is used to power and propell it forward. There is minimal vibration due to high heat, and when noticed there are assumed to be natural lava tubes.
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@@dustybricks113 Yes, that's what they look like, like lava tunnels, with vitrified rock.
And 20 years
@@AMPProf And infinite money.
Could you imagine the civil application for these machines. Like tunnelling transit tunnels or making pipelines.
It's already a thing look up tunnel boring machine
I know TBM exist, but their costly and slow. I was wondering if these machines would be better than the TBM, seeing as they seem faster.
"I want a big geothermal energy plant in every major city."
@@Kishanth.J If we make modifications for these things then it's just going to be the same slow drilling machine we have, but with an undersupervised nuclear reactor
@@Kishanth.J they seem faster because they don't exist and you can make it look as fast as you want.
Digging tunnels is big business worldwide, if there were a better, faster option that could be done with technology from the 60s, it would already be in use.
This vehicle reminded me of the Thanderbirds. If it were truly possible, it would be excellent for building tunnels, underground bases, and deep mining.
I remember watching a movie with this kind of vehicle that can travel towards Earth Core, the movie name os " *The Core* "
Same. If you look closely, you'll see he included a few clips from the film.
After I watched that movie years ago, I regretted that I hadn't spent that time cleaning toilets or similar. That movie was just awful.
It was a fun movie that didn't take itself seriously.
@@MrAlsachti Most important scene in the movie: "Somebody get me a fruit! I need a fruit!" (then applies fire to the fruit as an illustration)
The best solution would probably be to use a MASER to melt the rock in front of you (that way you directly heat the rock instead of having to heat some part of the vehicle to crazy temperatures), and then use some mecchanical means (like screws and things like that) to push the molten (or maybe just softened) rock around and then behind you.
But managing the heat trapped in the rock around you would still be a huge problem, probably without solution.
Maybe the only way arount it would be accepting that the main mode of operation for your vechicle is to mechanically dig through dirt or soft/loose rocks and only engaging the heating device for very short times to help with sections of harder rock (having to move past the heated section, proceed some more mechanically and then wait for a cooldown period each time).
Thought they would use focused acoustic cavitation to form a precisely positioned fracture in the rock. Remove the fractured piece, ship it out, rinse, and repeat.
You need to consider higgs boson..., and what can be done with material that has been eviscerated.
An example for you is what happened to all of the debris all of the concrete that was collapsed in the twin towers.
It doesn't have a requirement for excessive heat.
I know you just watched the core 😁
Where is all of that old study the earthworm material we tossed out? :P
As it is impossible for nuclear reactors to explode in a thermonuclear fireball, this story about the test of the Soviet „battle mole“ is obviously not true…
It could have had a meltdown without _literally_ exploding.
They said it was melting solid stone around it, so I could believe the cooling system for the reactor got overloaded.
@@Sue_Me_Too That still would not result in a "thermonuclear explosion"
You can't accidentally set off a thermonuclear explosion, it requires an extreme amount of explosive force *precisely* focused equally around a core of pure fissile material, which are only used in weapons and not in reactors.
@@viysnjor4811 I agree, but a nuclear reactor might _regular_ explode while it's melting down. Coolant tanks rupturing and that kind of thing. It's NOT a thermonuclear explosion, but it IS a hot, radioactive explosion.
If you describe it like that, I could see it getting mistranslated as "thermonuclear"
@@Sue_Me_Too I doubt it's a translation error, Thermonuclear in Russian is "Termoyaderniy", ("termo" = "thermal", "yaderniy" = "nuclear") while "Radioactive" is "radioaktivniy" and explosion is "vzriv" or "detonatsiya"
I'd need to see the original Russian papers myself to say for sure, but what I'm getting at is these aren't really terms that could *be* mistranslated, as they are scientific terminology in both languages and not idioms or metaphors or other abstract ideas.
0:04 "Behold, the Underminer!" -Underminer
While there may be a possibility that a machine like this could be made to work in near liquid permafrost in Russia, as someone who has worked in hard rock mining and tunneling for 20 years, there's no way it could operate at any useful speed or as per the catchy animation at all.
IF it was possible to use these methods, then every mining company in the world would be using them instead of the slow and laborious drill and blast methods currently in use.
The best hard rock advance rates in a standard decline mine (6x5.5m) are usually 3 'cuts' per 24hrs of 5-6m advance each.
Problem no. 2 is what do you do with all the 'spoil', or loosened rock as you advance?
You can't leave it in the hole ahead of the machine, and you can't 'swim' through it...
Problem no 3, how do you replace the cutting bits on the drill head while travelling at 7km/h 🤷
What cutting bits do you use? Most cutting tools on rotary cutter type machines are only good for rock up to 80mpa or there abouts, after which you need to change to drill and blast mining.
Burning holes through the rock ahead with some kind of magical nuclear laser would melt the machine when you pass through it.
Never happened 🙂👍
Maybe it could work if there is pipe inside on it what push rocks soil etc out of it behinds
@@FINMrCurly Without pumping water into the tunnel to wash out debris the mechanism would be exceedingly inefficient.
The drill has to cut a path big enough for the whole vehicle, but the conveyor mechanism has to be just a small part of the diameter.
Warhammer 40k called. It wants its Termite back.
Actually we have land submarines. They're called TBMs.
Yes, and they're 100 times slower than nautical/normal submarines.
@@JWQweqOPDHand only used in civilian applications and not military
@@Pixel22-fs3tt TBMs can help build tunnels which can be used for defense. For example, Pyongyang, arguably the most fortified/well-defended city on Earth, has an extensive tunnel network deep under the city.
@@JWQweqOPDHthey also don’t vaporize the occupants
@@ajcottrill4949Side effects of nuclear bombs
I have one suggestion for you. Try to research the project of the former Yugoslavia, the supersonic plane "NA or YU sonic". I think it would be a good video. Because it shows how much that country was thinking about the future of military aviation at that time, and later with the collapse of the country all those people who worked on the project went to various world airlines. Just one example, they developed voice commands on airplanes, and all that at the end of the eighties.
I hope to see a good video about this
Greetings from Serbia✌️
I want to hear more about the Yugo Avro
I would think that various grades of bedrock and unknown caverns or watertables would be a massive issue. As it is, the drill that cut the tunnel under Seattle took years to finish, so long that we weren't sure the project funding would even survive. And that drill get hung up on a small metal tube that required months of work to remove
If the definition of "land submarine" is "enormous vehicle that move underground breaking through soil and rock", well, its not that rare. Its called Tunnel Boring Machine and it has a speed of, well, several tens of meter per day?
This may be only rumors... May be not. When I was a kid, there was a competition ran by "Modelist- Konstructor" magazine, for the best design of underground self propelled vehicle, in Soviet Union. I did participate in it as well as thousands and thousands of other kids. Imagine how many designs did they receive and processed. Of course, my design did not take the prise, but now I am a Drilling Engineer and i still have the reply letter from that magazine! 😂
Sounds about right for the competence of a 20th and 21st century Russian govt. Honestly, any nation on the security council is pretty similar.
I still have my letter from Van Daniken who wrote "Chariots of the Gods", form the time I was an engineering student. :)
John Henry: "Underground Boat..."
DARPA Chief: "You knew?"
John Henry:"We've had a few run-ins in the past."
As someone who was in underground construction for 10yrs I assure you the second you hit a 56,000psi granite seam you’re “land submarine” would come to a very quick halt.
Is that like a pressurised hole in the granite ?.
Indeed 😂
@@NeedToBike No it’s just very hard granite. I hit some under the Hudson River in upstate NY and Turned a couple month job into 16mo…..
@@NeedToBike No that's how much force it takes to break the rock.
For reference: a fully loaded semi-truck weighs about 56,000 pounds.
That's a lot of PSI!
I love the idea of taking something that whilst underwater is practically impossible to find, then putting that in rock where it leaves a perfect trail of the exact path it took.... 😂😂😂
And this alm9st certainly DID NOT happen. There is a reason that tunnels aren't dug this fast and basically its just not possible. With how 9ften the cutting head would need to be replaced, the amount of earth it would displace if it actually could move at a brisk walking pace co sidering even the most expensive and advance tunnel boring machines today aren't even half that quick. It's just not actually possible on a physics level. First the cutter would disintegrate and melt if it were moving that fast, plus they would have to stop every few inches to back out, change the cutter. Then get moving again. And if something that large really could go through rock that quick it would melt the rock, but would very easily melt the metal on the machine itself.... 😂😂😂
First, rocks have lower melting point than most alloys.
Second. I don't think we have rights to say what was stupid and in what way. It was previous generations of scientists and engineers, they weren't have our amount of knowledge and experience, as well half of today's technologies.
Things that today knows every first grader, wasn't so obvious for them. Even more, they was actually the ones who discovered this knowledge.
Just watch first projects of jet planes, space ships, from both USSR and USA. Amount of mistakes that was made huge. And it almost impossible that everything worked as intended.
Aww ya had to bring physics into it. :)
@@Jedai_Games Hmm; I have to disagree. There were many people back then that knew this idea was a no-go, so to speak. Rock was just as hard and unyielding then as it is now; they understood thermodynamics well enough to know a vehicle like this could never have enough power to work, or enough strength to survive.
With the US design for an underground submarine, using heat isn't just military anymore. Recently, a start up, forgot the name, started using the technology used in fusion reactor research as the source of the heat for the beam to drill for kilometers straight down to get to real sources of geothermal heat for energy. The drill is seen to be a lot cheaper, and way faster, than a mechanical drill, and a lot safer for everyone.
Correct Bechtel, a private military contractor was using a nuclear submarine reactor in a under ground boring machine. Someone on the Shawn Ryan podcast brought it up not to long ago.
@@StephenAMG63 That's not what I was talking about.
Bechtel bought the Electronic Warfare company I used to work for long ago. If anyone could do that kind of stuff, I imagine it would include them. @@StephenAMG63
Even if you had a nuclear-powered-rock-melting laser, you still have to remove all of that [now molten] material in order to actually _dig a hole._
We use a big CNC laser cutter at work and it needs a 60PSI jet of compressed nitrogen blowing liquid metal out of the kerf in order to actually *cut* anything.
@@Sue_Me_Too Not sure what tokamak reactors use to heat the gas, but I doubt it's a laser like what you use.
It makes sense why the Brotherhood of Nod in command and conquer had them as they took it after the fall the the Soviet union. The game is very well thought out.
Shredder and his foot soldiers used to ride on it back in the 80s.
am i the only one who remember that one drill machine "submarine" thing from the end of the incredibles?
The Underminer's "ship"? No, you're not the only one who remembers.
Thermonuclear from a reactor? Everyone’s favourite black powder, dynamite? A little script revision and fact checking wouldn’t go astray. I can tell that a lot of effort is put into these videos, these mistakes do bring down the quality a bit though.
I would think the research aided current capabilities in horizontal drilling for oil and gas. Directional boring is a common technique for installing small (
Why is the drill bit up front spinning the wrong way? Gerry Anderson made the same mistake with “The Mole” in “Thunderbirds” which I suspect the people planning this drew inspiration from
Brains knew what he was doing. The still of the machine on a scaffold ready to go is from the Doug McClure flick At The Earth's Core (1976).
@@brianedwards7142 everything is derivative
Getting strong thunderbirds-vibes when watching this :)
Getting massive C&C Tiberian Sun Nod Subterranean APC vibs from it ^^
This looks like the drill from the fire nation in Avatar
Except this baby goes underground too.
This reminds me off seeing the huge burrow machines making new subway lines in Manhattan,NYC extending the 2nd Ave line on the east side.the size of the shafts are just huge in size just jaw dropping
Because material just vanish after the nuclear underground sub passes.. becasue its nuclear.
This is USSR fan fiction as realistic as 50 shades.
*BEHOLD, THE UNDERMINER!!!*
Wouldn’t it be the undergrounder
At least the 3rd Underminer comment I've seen and it's getting better every time!
Probably the closest things to these are the TBMs (Tunnel Boring Machine) like the ones they used on the Chunnel.
*A: Elon started The Boring Company*
For those like me watching who play Space Engineers, take this concept and build an underground mobile Base!
I’d do it, but my PC struggles to run space engineers. (Also because of this, I don’t have much practice with building this stuff myself in game)
Is that the same thing in The Incredibles?
That is exactly what the planet needs: Elon Musk with nuclear reactors.
Yes. His philosophy of build and break it is a little frightening
Musk owned several drilling machines that could travel up to roughly 40.25 kph (25 mph) through solid rock. In 1976 The Guinness World Record-holding fastest tunnel boring machine can cut over 7 meters an hour,
@@duelde-consulting6403 You are talking complete nonsense to hype up Elon, and here's the proof straight from The Boring Company Wiki:
Las Vegas Convention Center
In May 2019, the company won a $48.7 million project to shuttle visitors in a loop underneath the LVCC. Boring of the *first tunnel,* 4,475 feet (1,364 m) long, *began* on November 15, 2019, and *finished* on February 14, 2020, excavating an average of 49 feet (15 m) *per day.*
Edit: Now you're claiming 7 miles per day to me back at your own comment. Which is it? 25mph or 7mpd? Care to provide a link to back up your ever-changing story?
tbh I believe Musk as much as I believe Putin@@duelde-consulting6403
"Our heroes of the story...the soviet union" said nobody ever again 😂
@Eugene535 my family is from the USSR... We fought the nazis
@Eugene535 my point is that Russia is acting like the naz-zzis themselves. My gramps is rolling in his grave
Putttler should lead from the front lines
@Eugene535 o, I know...I was there when it collapsed. And it's on its way to collapse again, by the look of things
You could hear and feel that thing coming for miles. Seismographs would trigger alarms long before that. NOT stealthy at all.
You really don't need stealth when you have a method with no defense against.
There is a game called Vocaloid
Where are you basically going around in a drilling ship like that so I guess it’s pretty fun
This seems strange but interesting and I love it!
David Schwarz's airship from the late 19th century should be next!
6:55 TNT is white yellowish powder/solid but gunpowder is called black powder which was used for explosions before invention of everyones favourite explosive for safe explosion dynamite (also before it was glycerine but it was also very unstable)
Nitroglycerine is still the explosive in traditional dynamite, it's just not very popular anymore because modern plastic explosives are so much safer to use.
Behold! The Underminer!
"BEHOLD, THE UNDERMINER." 😂
*BEHOLD! THE UNDERMINER!*
Ah yes, they try to make a real Hades Siege Drill...
this vehicle is just like the incredible 2 bad guy rob the bank
And so we now know the movie ‘Battle beneath the Earth’ is actually a documentary. 😁
This must have been something discussed more than we think, the Japanese model kit companies took the idea and ran with it, I think it was Fujimi. Mole Tanks. Large and small. One even carried a small one-man flying disc for aerial scouting after ‘surfacing’ . Of course these designs were more ‘toys you build’ and were dripping with missile launchers and rotating radar antennas, very impractical and pretty impossible for underground travel. But boy was the box art exciting!
ETA: wrong company, it was KSN Midori, it was called the Ultra Moguras. There was also the Junior Mogura and the Big Moguras. Oh wow and a King Moguras. I have fallen down a mole tank rabbit hole! 😄 KSN just loved making sci-fi tank toy/models it seems.
How would that work? It seems you'd be able to hear it or pick it up on those earthquake sensors.
Palmer Luckey at Anduril has talked about this idea at length, and has indicated that they've already built working examples and are undergoing testing.
As a nuclear engineering student, the instant I heard "nuclear reactor" I said out loud, "How the heck do you plan on cooling that thing?"
9:15
Easy, don't and use the heat to propel you forward in a bell shapped device. Thermal mechanics can be used, if properly implemented.
@@dustybricks113isn't their patents for this?
@@dustybricks113 When your bell shaped device collides with a seam of solid granite, then all forward progress is arrested.
Imagine the amount of cave ins it would cause. Plus hitting water and sewage pipes.
If these things were in combat nowadays, it would be looked like worms in Transformers-Dark of the Moon due to the developments 😅
I look at this and Hell March starts playing in my head.
This is just the Underminer from the Incredibles but IRL
Oh shit, it’s the underminer. What are we going to do-
Thank you :) I haven't heard of this Leviathan even though I'm Russian :)
Next I'm expecting a story of an underground air... no - submarine carrier! It could carry naval nuclear submarines from one ocean to another under the ground where no one can detect them! Must come up with some epic name for this monster - like Admiral Kozlov (or would Kirov be more epic?)
Subterranean Submarine Carrier-- funny!
I'll tell you what happened to 'em, The Shredder was using them as transit from the Technodrome under Manhattan for most of the late 80's until he was defeated by the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Wasn't there a game with this kind of vehicle? Forgot the name, but it had something to do with volcanoes.
Edit: Volcanoids was the name.
Also the "comand and conquer " series and of course planeteer.
ICBM silos in America can detect underground vibrations
I wonder what it would be like if they became a reality
All you can imagine
Underground cities, subways, bunkers, tunnels....
You name it
How America makes their DUMBs. But instead of digging out and disposing of the spoil, theirs use lasers to melt the rocks and seal the walls to a glass smooth finish that supports the tunnel.
**TUNNELS**
trains
subways
Underground drillers have been making tunnels for the subway systems in American cities. What have they done after the tunnels were done? How about Deep Underground Military Bunkers?
This is just the sandworm from dune with extra steps
you ever seen those machines used to dig subway tunnels. Yeah it takes years to dig through dense solid rock.
Of the four mines that did not go off and was left in place . One exploded in about ( I think 1950) . By this time it was farm land and luckily no one was killed . It was thought to have been lightning that set it off.
I wonder if they plan to ever dig down and remove the explosives from those old mines(or evacuate the area above them and blow in place)
David Graeber gave a great lecture on such “poetic technology.”
Straight up like in Metal Slug 5 (the Sandmarine boss)
The difference is the Sandmarine go down on sand not on rocks also Sandmarine design is basically a submarine with treds on the side
Boring through the ground is not boring. Imagine digging metro tunnels, or traveling through the dunes like the sandworm in "Dune"...
Getting indeed vibes of thunderbirds, teenage mutant ninja turtles and the NOD subterranean APC. That being said, having worked with cutter suction dredgers which cut rock, you have (steel with tungsten inserts) wear parts that need replacement every so often due to abrasion. Tungsten itself is too brittle so a rod of it must be held together with a steel teeth, same goes with TBMs and drum cutters. At some point the soil becomes too hard to economically drill and the cost effective solution is to drill and blast.
The cut rock needs to go somewhere (it takes up more volume when broken), loose soil, clay and peat have pores and may be pushed aside, not so with solid rock. It's a nice science fiction concept, but that's what it is, fiction!
Not just them, Nosecone from the Transformers, the Pit Viper from G.I. Joe, and the Magma Mole from M.A.S.K. (Mobile Armored Strike Kommand) all then likely drew inspiration from these things.
Man, i cant believe avatar the last airbender actually had a semi accurate drill more realistic than the soviets
Seeing that there are rumors that there is a massive underground tunnel network underneath North America, one would wonder how far it went with the U.S.,
It would take a lot of years to drill tunnel that far. And keeping a vacuum in them to prevent air resistance form stopping the cylindrical shaped fast subway modules .. Engineering and cost and obstacles would be a nightmare. Who knows.
@@BillSentry it would be interesting to find out, and apparently explain why the pentagon doesn't know how to balance their checkbooks,
"we did it we built an underground tunneling machine"
Great, how fast is it?
"Uh it goes about 1 in an hour and then cooks everyone inside as soon as the hole is big enough to be a rock oven!"
"I am the underminer"
self-contained drilling machines like this could make a return on other planets, since underground shelters would allow structures to be made with minimal materials and utilising the ground for shielding from radiation exposure
Also it's where all the oxygen is stored in molecules.
it's gonna be so much fun to be a slave on another planet.
hmmmm. As a former engineering student you woke me up. *sigh* I have a personal friend who designed the drill bit for the Mars lander.
How long did it take to animate the ground?
too long friend
@@FoundAndExplainedalso, Aviation Station is at 10.700 subs
This must be where Eric Cartman got his hippie extermination machine idea.
Pretty sure Krang had one of these in the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon!
The Belgian professor Barabas actually invented this. He called his invention the Terranef. It was actually functional and he and his friends used it for many of their adventures!
I can see some flaws to this.. like how do they know where they are going? And imagine you're just drilling through earth and without your knowing there is a Ginormous underground cavern and you just fall.. or you drill right into a caldera.. what's the contingency if the machine breaks down and your thousands of feet below ground..
This is basically a drilling coffin..
Thats basically the plot of "the core" ;)
Built by Dr. Evil, stopped by Austin Danger Powers.
you forgot about its combat use by an ancient tribe during the historical battle at the outer wall of Ba Sing Se. though transported overland by its own wheels, the tribe solved both the cooling and the waste problems in one genius feat of engineering
In the 1960's, the US had a nuclear drill design, but it left radioactive residue behind it in the walls.
So you're telling me the Underminer was a communist?
The underminer in incredibles.
I can only say one thing about this, and those who know, know: NOD for LIFE! ;)
Peace through power!
Kane lives in death!
You have lost so many wars and still believ... pathetic.
a conventional tunnel digger could be improved with the introduction of a reactor to supply power instead of bringing the power down in long cables, but the use case for that would only really be beneficial in say replacing undersea cables and pipelines with ones below the seabed
The grid beats any reactor, so it wouldn't be an improvement, it would only make it more mobile.
don't worry about disturbing all the life down there, it's not like a majority of the earth's biomass is in the seabed or anything ((sarcasm)).