the only other vehicles that come to mind are the "new" ford ranger and explorer, just gets decimated by every reviewer for cheap plastics and feeling a generation behind, and those things ain't cheap!
"cla getting dirty" "Cla at the car wash 10 hours" "CLA catches CLS doing laundry" "Guy finds keys to stepmom's CLA" "CLA in a white t shirt on a rainy day" 17:12
I own an m235i gc, and while I agree with some of their criticisms (shares a chassis with the mini, hate-it-or-love-it looks, etc) my admittedly-biased opinion is that they were overly punitive in their review, bordering on unprofessionalism. Also, they missed the context: the GC isn’t a car for BMW purists, it’s a car for people to get their foot in the door with the brand with something other than a stripped-out 2 series coupe. At the end of the day I love my GC, and that’s all that matters to me. If I wanted a 2 door, I would have definitely gone with a previous-gen m240i though.
The Audi may be the older one but I just think the “minimalism” of the interior and the subtle exterior still make it the best looking one in my opinion.
Thank you for the honesty and passion about the BMW. I'm so fed up of hearing journalists say "yeah, it's now front wheel drive, but it still feels like a BMW, it still drives very good, plus it's more spacious, more efficient...": bullshit.
@@ThrottleHouse It definitely doesn't drive like a balanced rear wheel drive car. And this car is massive let down especially the way it looks. But I do understand why they going fwd. Its a cost saving method. Thomas is absolutely right when he says rather go for a base model fwd only version like a 230i.
The bones of the car might be from 2013, but the look of the car in this review has only been with us since 2017...it hasn't had much time to age at all.
@@DeeeBeee123 It is perfect. Remember VW owns porsche seat skoda and so on ~ if they would go in the bmw direction they would not need porsche anymore etc.... Audi is in the right place in its company.
Fearzzy lol no we own two bmws currently and we love them, i had an e46 first car, now an e90 facelift and my next will be the g20 3 series. But there was never such a big difference from mercedes and bmw interiors until recently. Thats why im disappointed.
@@Hi-kk1fu It looks the best out there, M235i looks so wrong in all angles this S3 looks better than the newest A3, the lines are just perfect. While the M235i might have the BMW badge, it doesn't make it look better than the S3 instantly. The car's proportions are wrong, they don't even fit any car. The front looks like someone tried to squeeze the X6 design into a small sedan, the side looks like a cheap rental car, the rear also looks like a X6 squeezed into a small sedan. Even the economy small sedans look way better. You'd have to be a BMW-douche or blind to call the S3 uglier than the M235i.
That CLA Amg 35 is really great. Actually get the regular seats with out the massage features because it's useless and the default seats are more comfortable. Now you saved close 7000 dollars which makes it a really easy choice.
Had an S3 and loved it. Did everything well without overdoing it. I currently have an M340 xdrive and it also does everything well and gets very good gas mileage with under 400 hp. 0-60 sub 4 second...underestimated by BMW at 4.1.
From the way this is all going, Merc and Beemer will have more AMG and M cars than regular cars in the not too distant future! Talk about watering down the party drinks by a cheapo host!
Yeah! We don't want our drinks watered down, we want it raw and hardcore! Spike that shit! Sprinkle in some drugs here or there. There are plenty of cars we could get that are more subdued, M and AMG badges should be reserved for those drinks that have been left at a risky bar in between 2 sketchy characters while you take your time in the bathroom fumbling around looking for your drugs, only for you to come out and redundantly extra-spike your drink yourself. I guess I want my car to have the ability to have some sort of roid rage
Priyam Gajjar that doesn’t matter they still assigned an M and AMG badge to them so they’d better live up to it. It doesn’t matter if it’s not a full M or AMG even cars like the m240i and other lesser AMG cars are still dynamically excellent but these just aren’t
Honestly, I don't think the pop up screens will ever stop being insanely cool for me. I have a 500hp Bilstein suspension A6 and I love that screen movement. I'm saving up for a 2015-2018 S8 to make it 900 hp. 2.6-2.9s to 60mph and in the 10's quarter mile, while having awesome luxury, stance, presence, and being clean and understated.
I bought an M235i with different 19” wheels, but precisely because we are a small family who like to travel. It’s an amazing highway driving car. However, I’m already planning a trade-in after 24 months of ownership. It got me out of my 10+ year old Mazda 3 MPS/Mazdaspeed3. I have a lot of back issues and driving a manual was becoming increasingly difficult but I still wanted to drive a fun, quick, and unique looking car. Snapper Rocks Blue is THE best color for this car as well.
As a Chinese, I had to say no to this. The new gen bmw has lost its soul and mind. The g20 3 series and the g30 5 series has become a soft sedan among the competitors. Not to mention the front wheel drive 1 series. But they didn’t lose their looks on the outside. But holy shit the new m235i just went one extra step further and became a pure trash inside out. I love bmw from way back but man I’m disappointed and disgusted about the new lineup of bmw.
First time watching the channel and really appreciated to know the pros and cons of each car without any restraint. Others don't mention so much about the real cons (eq. fake exhaust ...) Good job !! 😉
You guys get some super strange spec S3! In Europe it has 300+ hp (usually dyno 10hp over). We can also hide the center display at a touch of a button.
Yeah, for some reason the S3/Golf R in North America is detuned (EUDM has 300hp+, USDM models used to be 292hp but have gone down to 288hp for some reason???)
That 2 Series Gran Coupe has caused me to bite through my tongue so many times because 3 of my friends have them, and talk endlessly about how great their car is and what a great driver's car it is. And me and my G20 M340i have to just sit there and try not to blurt out the first thing that comes to mind about those Mini Coopers in Drag.
North American "car reviewers" very often really are just like trashtalking douchebags, sorry! Reality here in Germany is, that the new BMW 2 Series Gran Coupe always gets great reviews, from the most different people. How is this possible? Because they understand the intention from BMW to build this car! North Americans are just totally annoying these days.... I know, these two guys here are Canadian and British, but this doesn't matter. It's even worse with US "car fans", because when you have an US president, who is the most disgusting fucking bastard of all times, this must have a reason... He got elected by a lot of people ;-). North Americans and their "opinions" sometimes are just fucking "asymmetrically". You just don't understand what BMW did with this car, buddies! It really doesn't fucking matter at all, that this new 2 Series four door car now has a front drive architecture. Because BMW engineered it so well, that it's still a great driving car with a very sophisticated AWD, period! If you still want your "old shit" in a compact car, you just have to wait a bit, because the new BMW 2 Series two door Coupe with only RWD will be out soon. BMW and MINI are part of the same company and therefore it has an important reason for BMW to relate the M235i 2 liter engine with 305 hp and AWD with the high powered MINI-versions with the same drivetrain. Fact is, that all these cars are just excellent! By the way, BMW has figured out that more than 90% of customers of these cars don't have any clue anyway if it's RWD or AWD...! For a BMW business case these AWD compact cars just are NOBRAINERS! There's simply no other solution than AWD with the M235i Gran Coupe, because it has a huge number of parts in common with the 305 hp MINI versions.... period! Just shut the fuck up, because you are talking too much nonsense! The new RWD 2 Series Coupe with only two doors will have a completely different drivetrain architecture and will be related to the 3 Series. Therefore it will still have the inline six- cylinder engines plus RWD. It's quite hypocritical from these guys, because the AWD system in a BMW M5 gets the highest sympathies from all these smart-asses, but in a smaller compact package like the 2 Series four door version they still want to have "RWD only". It doesn't make any sense at all, if you have so much power which you can't get on the tarmac in such a smaller car. Seriously, having more than 300 turbo hp in a compact car without AWD these days is just fucking STUPID! Just eat it, you annoying North American "hypercritical" smart-asses. Fact is, that some other carmakers with still only front drive architecture in cars with more than 300 hp just can't keep up with the high amount of traction you get with AWD like in the M235i. These two guys in the video are really talking too much of bullshit about the M235i. Turbo engine power torque plus superior AWD traction plus still a well handling smaller package like in the 2 Series Gran Coupe is all what matters. These two guys can tell what they want, because the BMW is the best driving car in comparison with the older Audi S3 and the AMG CLA35, period! German car testers have figured this out immediately by the way... Strangely, a lot of American "car fans" still can't get over from the combination of bigger and heavy engines plus RWD, which they still mean that a BMW M car has to have.... Just wake up idiots, because times are changing these days! Here in Europe now it's fucking impossible for carmakers to produce 6.2 liter supercharged V8 engines plus "only RWD" in bigger numbers, like in the new Corvette C8 for example... ;-) North Americans sometimes really are like dumb little children, who still don't get it that things are changing, because they still want to have what they are used, but what has getting quite impossible in the rest of the world. "Fuck emission laws, because we have all the cheapest fuels made from our US fracking oil... yeah!" Sorry, dear North Americans, but you are disgusting... and totally wrong! And you still don't get the intentions from BMW, that building a car like the M235i Gran Coupe makes totally sense.
@@Porsche1969 Kind of harsh opinion toward North Americans, but many of your points are accurate. The reality is this was just a couple guys giving very biased subjective opinions. The cars are not matched from a price point. The Audi is the least expensive, slowest and, sorry, but looks at least a decade dated to me. If someone showed me that car and asked "how do you like my 2008 Audi?" I wouldn't think twice about the model year. The benz does have the best exterior styling but over-done interior, and I like the interior of the BMW much better despite the Bimmer being 10K less expensive. I would bet the BMW is the fastest straight line and on the track too, but no way of knowing that from watching these guys.
Wow! I test drove this car over the weekend and I couldn't disagree more on everything. I figured the BMW M lovers would be upset due to the layout and engine, but I loved everything... except the gas mileage.
I own one and love it. Lots of Corolla and old buy here pay here Bimmer drivers chiming in on performance cars that they don’t have the driving training to extract 25% of the performance with. I’m not implying that I do but at least I’m aware. I find it hard to believe that a performance car that can do zero to 60 in 4 and half seconds and pull .91 Gs on the skid pad won’t offer enough for the typical schmo commenting on these chat threads.
i am not the biggest car person, in fact, i know very little about cars. But you guys make such entertaining videos that the cars are just the cherry on top. thanks for the great content fellas
I hope you guys realize that this car isnt the successor to the m240i from last generation. New 2 series coupe and cabrio are still rwd and will have 6 cylinders.
The one I’m getting is the Seat Leon Cupra ST, same engine like in the S3, more space, sportier driving and cheaper, too bad it’s only available in Europe.
I love the 2 series as a regular car, interior is nice, looks is actually ok to (me) and performance is fine. But obviously as a BMW this doesn’t belong at all in the BMW family.
It's even ugly as a normal car , it looks cheap and like it was stung by a bee, literally only sold for the badge, you won't be sacrificing much going even with a base genesis or a nicely equipped mazda
Without a doubt, you guys are the most hilarious, creative and honest car reviewers on the Tube!! I became a subscriber today!! I'm a 30 year career car guy...(who also happens to be an award-winning Los Angeles based jazz musician) But I've been an auto enthusiast my entire life!! You guys deliver the goods, good, bad or ugly while(st) never taking yourselves too seriously.... or seriously at all which is just fine with me!! I can't wait till your next shoot! You've got the best job in the world, mine are a distant second!!
3 years later I bought the CLA35. I was about to throw down for the S3 and on a whim I walked across the street to the Benz dealer in LA and took a look just for kicks. I was blown away at how nice it looked in comparison. The interior is amazing, a level above the Audi. Drive wise the Merc felt more engaging and even felt faster. I threw my money at the salesman and I can't believe I was even considering the S3, I felt like it was the boobie prize for someone that couldn't find an RS3. It bored me. The BMW was never considered, I don't think anyone is considering that turdmobile... FUGLEY! Dollar per dollar the CLA35/45 is Mercedes best car right now and easily the best in the price range in the last decade.
What I got out of this video for the BMW, if your going to buy the BMW M235i, just buy a Mini Cooper 5dr or Clubman instead. Same car, but better in all ways.
Hallo, thank you for your honest review about this "m235i" I own a bmw m140i and as I work as a developer for the car industry, I have to say you totally right. The BMW is a really good car and you can go very very fast on backroads with this car. A normal driver would be much faster with the new compared to the m240i. But you definitely miss the thrill of driving. This car is so boring. In fact you can do nothing wrong in this car. Even when you get off the throttle in the middle of a corner that you drive quite on the limit, the tail will do nothing. And poweroversteering.... haha, you can forget about that. Its a very good car and for probably 90% of the people who will drive it, it is the more safety and faster car than the old one. But for real driving pleasure, this is definitely the wrong car. That's a shame, because with new generation of the 3 series bmw is back at it's best. And you guys really can look forward to drive the new 4 series!! Yes, I dont like the grill, but it drives amazing!
Full confirmation that M now stands for Marketing alone. It's staggering that the 235 has a BMW badge let alone the M one. This is what happens when you quit motorsports. Sometimes, it's more than titles and winning. It's R&D for your product line many decades in advance. And the conviction for sticking to the core identity - the death of BMW really. I fully resonate with Thomas on that video above. It's sadness more than anything else.
I’ve got a 2014 S3 - Java Green, it’s on a PFL but still seems a great car (virtual cockpit would be nice next time) BMW 240i is a solid car but can’t see many people wanting X-Drive, people pick Audi for the straight line and Bmw for the cornering character (the new models haven’t gone down well in the Uk going to front wheel or x drive), 👌🏻 I’ve never considered Mercedes I’m not a big fan of the media displays/controls, I think they look nicer on the outside than the inside, I’m going to stick with S3 for now, a software / dsg map brings them up too 360-380bhp
Another amazing review. Thanks for always putting our spectacular content. I look forward to every video you guys make. You should have 3 million subs. Way better then 90% of other auto channels!
I think you guys have improved a lot throughout your upload history, not in quality of the video itself but in the way you communicate between each other and to the viewers
Ohh so good to have you guys back at it with the cleaver and witty car reviews!!! Thomas.. your ranting about the BMW was hilarious and the read end review super funny
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Between Savagegeese’s review and TH review on the M235i..... I can’t remember any other car being so slaughtered by reviewers. Brutal.
Doug Demuro and Maserati would disagree.
I'm glad I was too poor and had to settle for the old m235i 😝 the straight 6 is a blast 🧨
@@k.almohammadii You ain't never lied
well imagine they stopped making muscle cars with v8's and all had v6 turbos with all wheel drive
the only other vehicles that come to mind are the "new" ford ranger and explorer, just gets decimated by every reviewer for cheap plastics and feeling a generation behind, and those things ain't cheap!
"cla getting dirty"
"Cla at the car wash 10 hours"
"CLA catches CLS doing laundry"
"Guy finds keys to stepmom's CLA"
"CLA in a white t shirt on a rainy day"
17:12
omg this is perfect
The fact they're on Bing brings it home
The S3 looks good in the old school way performance sedans used to look before they all got bloated and grew into the model above them in the range.
Basically a S4 2008. Such a nice car
The S3 is great because it looks a little dated. The newest range of Audis is soooooo much plainer than the last one, which is saying something.
Haron H. Yea I dunno about that a V8 compared to a turbo 4
@@f181234 oh I was agreeing with Amir about the look and size of the car compared to newer bloated cars
Because Audi still in the early 2010
I own an m235i gc, and while I agree with some of their criticisms (shares a chassis with the mini, hate-it-or-love-it looks, etc) my admittedly-biased opinion is that they were overly punitive in their review, bordering on unprofessionalism. Also, they missed the context: the GC isn’t a car for BMW purists, it’s a car for people to get their foot in the door with the brand with something other than a stripped-out 2 series coupe. At the end of the day I love my GC, and that’s all that matters to me. If I wanted a 2 door, I would have definitely gone with a previous-gen m240i though.
we love the content, but im back still waiting for that house tour of James
*church tour.
Maybe Doug can review it on his More Doug DeMuro channel🤔
"Barely deserves a BMW badge" - ouch
"what did you think of the bmw?"
"I didn't drive a BMW."
"What was it?"
"I don't know what it was, but i didn't like it"
James: everyone's got a third
Me: looks down
*whispering*
"I'm gonna do it..." - Understeer
Funny how i knew exactly which car you were talking about
Lol
@@F30_bpdr hahhahaha lol
he drove a bmw he didn’t like 😂
I know the feeling :(
Years ago i owned an old beat-up 1986 E28 520i. The shark nose one. I would chose that car over this M235i any day.
Every drive was a pleasure.
@@DolleHengst Shark nosed BMW's are the best looking of them all, by a long shot.
what bmw though?
@@dougrobinson8602 disagree
The Audi may be the older one but I just think the “minimalism” of the interior and the subtle exterior still make it the best looking one in my opinion.
How about no
Cla has the best interior hands down. The new S3 interior is really nice tho old ones aren’t it for me.
@@jwanilpatel3223how bout yes. Audi over the other 2. EASILY
I’d still go for the s3 regardless.
Uchiha good choice
@@tp3821 I would go for the CLA tbh (if I could afford it of course lol)
I have that s3, love it
Antonio Diaz, the interior of the Merc is crappy. Cheap materials are all over
@@McBeakerson meh reliability aint great for mine 🤣 turbo blew up at 30k
S3 all the way. You have my word.
Thank you for the honesty and passion about the BMW. I'm so fed up of hearing journalists say "yeah, it's now front wheel drive, but it still feels like a BMW, it still drives very good, plus it's more spacious, more efficient...": bullshit.
That’s complete garbage. Anyone who says those things is just saying stuff to keep someone happy.
@@ThrottleHouse Totally agree with you.
@@ThrottleHouse It definitely doesn't drive like a balanced rear wheel drive car. And this car is massive let down especially the way it looks. But I do understand why they going fwd. Its a cost saving method. Thomas is absolutely right when he says rather go for a base model fwd only version like a 230i.
Throttle House Respect the authenticity, it really sets this channel apart 🙌
Cheslyn Owens yeah thats the funny part. Its a cost saving measure and its still more expensive than the old one
One of my favorite throttle house videos to date. I’m a huge bmw guy and their reactions were exactly how i felt.
The audi s3 aged so well
Definitely, we have an A3 and it still looks so good
The bones of the car might be from 2013, but the look of the car in this review has only been with us since 2017...it hasn't had much time to age at all.
Aged well but honestly it’s ancient now... 😂
Audi is too conservative
@@DeeeBeee123 It is perfect. Remember VW owns porsche seat skoda and so on ~ if they would go in the bmw direction they would not need porsche anymore etc.... Audi is in the right place in its company.
Graphic Content Warning! Actual photos of M235i will be shown
This is gold.
this should be top comment. people must be warned
It looks beautiful
17 seconds in, and I've already felt the need to click the like button. Thanks guys
For the price of the merc u can get an RS3 with 400HP
Or a a45s
And a 5 banger which basically sounds like a v10 cut in half!! Audi easy the best.
@@Thejbinz but drives like a mini Van
@@NN-ci6ox it does not drive like a minivan it’s 6 inches shorter than a Corolla and has Awd that makes you feel like you’re connected on rails lol
@@KO-iw3vu 6 inches shorter? No body is going to like that 😂
Week 3 of trying to get them to do a tour ofJames Church
I just want them to review an ms3
Used to have the S3 but now went for the CLA35AMG. The Benz is another level of quality and makes more fun to drive.
I'm a rotten BMW fan to the core but damn they ruined that car! It's just super busy and bad and NOT BMW!
Same but they have been disappointing me heavy lately, interiors need more of a wow factor, 2 is ugly, 4 is ugly. Unfortunate:(
Just look at the A- pillar.
the new one series is also shit, this 235i is derived from it and it shows...
@@tasosss bmw never had "wow" interiors, so surely you bmw has been disappointing u for the last 40 years then
Fearzzy lol no we own two bmws currently and we love them, i had an e46 first car, now an e90 facelift and my next will be the g20 3 series. But there was never such a big difference from mercedes and bmw interiors until recently. Thats why im disappointed.
Took me 28 mins to realise there's no drag racing
Thanks for the heads up
Yep cheers, gone.
Same
You are not alone!! 😆
You need to read the description of the video before you watch it...If there gonna race the cars...it will say...Drag Race...
There’s no denying that the CLA35 looks the best. That bmw is just 🤢
Wtf? The Mercedes looks terrible 😅😂
Zerberster nope but the bmw looks terribly awful 🤢🤮
Zerberster The mercedes looks like a mercedes. I have no f-ing clue what that thing with a BMW badge looks like.
It looks like a Kia Forte on the front and the back looks like a Toyota Prius.
Zerberster The Mercedes looks the best out of all these 3 cars by a mile
Absolute masterpiece review. Nice critics on the BMW, probably the only reviewers that are total honest about this disgrace of 2 series.
As an M240i owner I can only shake my head
Stryker Lenz bruh your car is ancient, got the interior from 7 years ago 😂
@@priyamggg not really.
They keep the 2 series coupe and cabrio rwd. Just this 1 series sedan is getting the fwd.
@@questionyourself718 not really what?
that bmw looks so bad its funny lined up next to the other two
the audi looks worse
@@Hi-kk1fu It looks the best out there, M235i looks so wrong in all angles
this S3 looks better than the newest A3, the lines are just perfect. While the M235i might have the BMW badge, it doesn't make it look better than the S3 instantly. The car's proportions are wrong, they don't even fit any car. The front looks like someone tried to squeeze the X6 design into a small sedan, the side looks like a cheap rental car, the rear also looks like a X6 squeezed into a small sedan. Even the economy small sedans look way better. You'd have to be a BMW-douche or blind to call the S3 uglier than the M235i.
Nissan Fairlady Z the BMW to me looks like an angry hamster with food in its cheeks
Are you joking, the Audi is ancient and looks like a dead a3
I love these two. Only car TH-camrs who can make me laugh but still touch on the major topics of the vehicles. Greetings from Alberta! :)
James seemed more interested in the rear neck ventilation port of the 235i seats than the car itself.
That CLA Amg 35 is really great. Actually get the regular seats with out the massage features because it's useless and the default seats are more comfortable. Now you saved close 7000 dollars which makes it a really easy choice.
17:48 Pretty sure the car with the longest name is my dream car:
Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo
@Colicus Jones the panamera name is longer
Land Rover Range Rover Velar SV Autobiography Dynamic Edition. Definitely the longest name haha
@@Cherub008 never heard someone say I own a land rover range rover 🤔
Rishab Gangopadhyay SAME
Had an S3 and loved it. Did everything well without overdoing it. I currently have an M340 xdrive and it also does everything well and gets very good gas mileage with under 400 hp. 0-60 sub 4 second...underestimated by BMW at 4.1.
pokerfred68 I have the s3 and love it. My next car will be the g20 m340i just like u
The M340i wagon is the one to go for, in my opinion. Probably the best all-rounder for a decent enough price
From the way this is all going, Merc and Beemer will have more AMG and M cars than regular cars in the not too distant future! Talk about watering down the party drinks by a cheapo host!
Yeah! We don't want our drinks watered down, we want it raw and hardcore! Spike that shit! Sprinkle in some drugs here or there. There are plenty of cars we could get that are more subdued, M and AMG badges should be reserved for those drinks that have been left at a risky bar in between 2 sketchy characters while you take your time in the bathroom fumbling around looking for your drugs, only for you to come out and redundantly extra-spike your drink yourself. I guess I want my car to have the ability to have some sort of roid rage
How is it watering down, this isn’t an m2, it’s not the full M, isn’t that obvious you dumbass
PYXB3 your so dumb man, there not meant to be fully fledged M and amg cars, hence the 43 and 235, my god u guys are dumb hahaha
Priyam Gajjar that doesn’t matter they still assigned an M and AMG badge to them so they’d better live up to it. It doesn’t matter if it’s not a full M or AMG even cars like the m240i and other lesser AMG cars are still dynamically excellent but these just aren’t
Blame marketing. “The kids love badges! Add more badges!!”
Honestly, I don't think the pop up screens will ever stop being insanely cool for me. I have a 500hp Bilstein suspension A6 and I love that screen movement.
I'm saving up for a 2015-2018 S8 to make it 900 hp. 2.6-2.9s to 60mph and in the 10's quarter mile, while having awesome luxury, stance, presence, and being clean and understated.
"We just immediately acheived one designers dream...we got inside the amg cla..." hahahahaha
Naughty!! 😈
I bought an M235i with different 19” wheels, but precisely because we are a small family who like to travel. It’s an amazing highway driving car. However, I’m already planning a trade-in after 24 months of ownership. It got me out of my 10+ year old Mazda 3 MPS/Mazdaspeed3. I have a lot of back issues and driving a manual was becoming increasingly difficult but I still wanted to drive a fun, quick, and unique looking car. Snapper Rocks Blue is THE best color for this car as well.
The quality just keeps going up and up you guys are really killing it !
Yep. They’re right. The one you want is the M240i coupe. Which is why I went out and bought one.
B58 FTW.
Loving the intro guys!!! Great content as usual !!!
Wait for the 2021 Audi S3, refreshed exterior and interior.
In a few year business schools will have the case of study: “how BMW lost their core customers in EU and the Americas (and make money in China)”
BMW's "core customers" buy a 3 series or a 5 series. Always did, always will do.
@@BFD15i and a 1 series even the new one, I've seen loads.
As a Chinese, I had to say no to this. The new gen bmw has lost its soul and mind. The g20 3 series and the g30 5 series has become a soft sedan among the competitors. Not to mention the front wheel drive 1 series. But they didn’t lose their looks on the outside. But holy shit the new m235i just went one extra step further and became a pure trash inside out. I love bmw from way back but man I’m disappointed and disgusted about the new lineup of bmw.
Only bmw? All car production company thinks about China's market
Levani inaveL I hope not otherwise it’s going to be ruined for car lovers just to satisfy car ruiners
The back of the BMW looks like a spinoff of a prius!
WOW didn't believe it myself but that BMW starts at $46k in the US . REALLY nice Mini
I’d take the S3
Especially now that they have cobb support
C'mon, just wait till the new S3 comes out...!
I hope they do the same vid later when comes to America 🙏
We will when it does
@@jamesengelsman9369 thank u Mr James u make us proud to be Brits
I‘m so excited because the cla 45 amg is sooo goood so Audi needs to step up their game. (Rs3)
Next month bro ✅
First time watching the channel and really appreciated to know the pros and cons of each car without any restraint. Others don't mention so much about the real cons (eq. fake exhaust ...)
Good job !! 😉
You guys get some super strange spec S3! In Europe it has 300+ hp (usually dyno 10hp over). We can also hide the center display at a touch of a button.
The screen can go away on theirs too. That’s a thing everywhere I believe they made a mistake.
I believe the newer S3's above 2018 removed that feature due to backup camera regulations. So now the button is mapped to an on/off switch.
Yeah, for some reason the S3/Golf R in North America is detuned (EUDM has 300hp+, USDM models used to be 292hp but have gone down to 288hp for some reason???)
You should repeat this video next year with the refreshed S3
Mercedes Benz u stole ma heart. Greetings and lots of love from Namibia Windhoek
Bmw for life
That 2 Series Gran Coupe has caused me to bite through my tongue so many times because 3 of my friends have them, and talk endlessly about how great their car is and what a great driver's car it is. And me and my G20 M340i have to just sit there and try not to blurt out the first thing that comes to mind about those Mini Coopers in Drag.
“There’s no aspect of driving this car that I enjoy” already thought that BMW did something very wrong building this car but daaamn haha
North American "car reviewers" very often really are just like trashtalking douchebags, sorry!
Reality here in Germany is, that the new BMW 2 Series Gran Coupe always gets great reviews, from the most different people. How is this possible? Because they understand the intention from BMW to build this car!
North Americans are just totally annoying these days.... I know, these two guys here are Canadian and British, but this doesn't matter.
It's even worse with US "car fans", because when you have an US president, who is the most disgusting fucking bastard of all times, this must have a reason... He got elected by a lot of people ;-). North Americans and their "opinions" sometimes are just fucking "asymmetrically".
You just don't understand what BMW did with this car, buddies! It really doesn't fucking matter at all, that this new 2 Series four door car now has a front drive architecture. Because BMW engineered it so well, that it's still a great driving car with a very sophisticated AWD, period!
If you still want your "old shit" in a compact car, you just have to wait a bit, because the new BMW 2 Series two door Coupe with only RWD will be out soon.
BMW and MINI are part of the same company and therefore it has an important reason for BMW to relate the M235i 2 liter engine with 305 hp and AWD with the high powered MINI-versions with the same drivetrain. Fact is, that all these cars are just excellent!
By the way, BMW has figured out that more than 90% of customers of these cars don't have any clue anyway if it's RWD or AWD...!
For a BMW business case these AWD compact cars just are NOBRAINERS! There's simply no other solution than AWD with the M235i Gran Coupe, because it has a huge number of parts in common with the 305 hp MINI versions.... period! Just shut the fuck up, because you are talking too much nonsense!
The new RWD 2 Series Coupe with only two doors will have a completely different drivetrain architecture and will be related to the 3 Series. Therefore it will still have the inline six- cylinder engines plus RWD.
It's quite hypocritical from these guys, because the AWD system in a BMW M5 gets the highest sympathies from all these smart-asses, but in a smaller compact package like the 2 Series four door version they still want to have "RWD only". It doesn't make any sense at all, if you have so much power which you can't get on the tarmac in such a smaller car. Seriously, having more than 300 turbo hp in a compact car without AWD these days is just fucking STUPID! Just eat it, you annoying North American "hypercritical" smart-asses.
Fact is, that some other carmakers with still only front drive architecture in cars with more than 300 hp just can't keep up with the high amount of traction you get with AWD like in the M235i.
These two guys in the video are really talking too much of bullshit about the M235i.
Turbo engine power torque plus superior AWD traction plus still a well handling smaller package like in the 2 Series Gran Coupe is all what matters. These two guys can tell what they want, because the BMW is the best driving car in comparison with the older Audi S3 and the AMG CLA35, period! German car testers have figured this out immediately by the way...
Strangely, a lot of American "car fans" still can't get over from the combination of bigger and heavy engines plus RWD, which they still mean that a BMW M car has to have....
Just wake up idiots, because times are changing these days!
Here in Europe now it's fucking impossible for carmakers to produce 6.2 liter supercharged V8 engines plus "only RWD" in bigger numbers, like in the new Corvette C8 for example... ;-)
North Americans sometimes really are like dumb little children, who still don't get it that things are changing, because they still want to have what they are used, but what has getting quite impossible in the rest of the world. "Fuck emission laws, because we have all the cheapest fuels made from our US fracking oil... yeah!" Sorry, dear North Americans, but you are disgusting... and totally wrong!
And you still don't get the intentions from BMW, that building a car like the M235i Gran Coupe makes totally sense.
SJW Maniac Ok 👍
SJW Maniac Dude nobody is reading that, this is TH-cam.
@@Porsche1969 Kind of harsh opinion toward North Americans, but many of your points are accurate. The reality is this was just a couple guys giving very biased subjective opinions. The cars are not matched from a price point. The Audi is the least expensive, slowest and, sorry, but looks at least a decade dated to me. If someone showed me that car and asked "how do you like my 2008 Audi?" I wouldn't think twice about the model year. The benz does have the best exterior styling but over-done interior, and I like the interior of the BMW much better despite the Bimmer being 10K less expensive. I would bet the BMW is the fastest straight line and on the track too, but no way of knowing that from watching these guys.
@@pinkyless exactly nobody is reading all that
Wow! I test drove this car over the weekend and I couldn't disagree more on everything. I figured the BMW M lovers would be upset due to the layout and engine, but I loved everything... except the gas mileage.
I own one and love it. Lots of Corolla and old buy here pay here Bimmer drivers chiming in on performance cars that they don’t have the driving training to extract 25% of the performance with. I’m not implying that I do but at least I’m aware. I find it hard to believe that a performance car that can do zero to 60 in 4 and half seconds and pull .91 Gs on the skid pad won’t offer enough for the typical schmo commenting on these chat threads.
My E46 broke down so i sit here in the train watching this video. That intro let me laugh too loud 😂
The BMW 2 went from having one of the best front ends in the lineup to...this....a Kia
I just love the CLA, such a sexy car. Any CLA AMG is on my to buy list (goal being the 45S ofc) AND it's not that pricey in the EU (C43 =~ CLA45S)
i am not the biggest car person, in fact, i know very little about cars. But you guys make such entertaining videos that the cars are just the cherry on top. thanks for the great content fellas
Totally agree with Thomas, BMW ruined the M235i with 4cylinder engine and front wheel bias. Not a drivers car anymore.
And then they have the audacity to put an M badge on it! How far can you water sown a permeance trim level.
@@Tempsho well they even screwed up looks of the M cars, just look at the new M3/M4 front end grille, we're back to butt ugly Bangle era. 🤦♂️
Cla and S3 are both 4 cylinders and front wheel bias😂😂😂
@@Marcus-wp8zf yeah, but Audi and Merc were never "the" performance drivers cars, bmw was. Fwd is ok on a $15K Kia, not on a premium german car brand.
I hope you guys realize that this car isnt the successor to the m240i from last generation. New 2 series coupe and cabrio are still rwd and will have 6 cylinders.
This is one of your best videos to date. Really enjoyed it, good job
Love you guys!! Glade to see ya back in action again!! You guys have the best intros of any TH-camr!!
THATS CLA INTERIOR IS INSANELY SICK THAT SCREEN IS EVERYTHING
that m235i ain’t it man i hope someone at bmw watch this review. great video👍🏻👍🏻
BMWs are my favorite cars but that 2 series looks like like a Hyundai. I’ll keep my F30 3 series over that.
Don't insult Hyundai
Don’t talk to me and my Veloster N ever again!
Bruh Hyundai is great now
"And i'm JAAAAmess." -killer. Love you guys.
For nearly 3 years now, my 2018 Audi S3 still puts a smile on my face.
Love my S3 too. Stage 2 E85 now
I've been looking for an RS3 and they are like unicorns lol. I ended up snagging a '21 A35. I'm happy but I still want an RS3 lol.
@@mikehawk120 there’s about 6 in my area for sale. Thinking about snagging one. 53k
4:32 you can feel the disappointment
4:39 ooof
1-2 punch right there
The one I’m getting is the Seat Leon Cupra ST, same engine like in the S3, more space, sportier driving and cheaper, too bad it’s only available in Europe.
Thomas, a great statement about the FWD BMW with that T-shirt :D
"His body is shutting down!" Loved it! Excellent acting!!! Thank you, keep it coming.
I love the 2 series as a regular car, interior is nice, looks is actually ok to (me) and performance is fine. But obviously as a BMW this doesn’t belong at all in the BMW family.
At least it doesn't belong as a M car.
It's even ugly as a normal car , it looks cheap and like it was stung by a bee, literally only sold for the badge, you won't be sacrificing much going even with a base genesis or a nicely equipped mazda
Simple design of the s3 is always my favourite
I didn’t know there’s a “C63 Amg Bi-Turbo 4matic plus” 😂
"4 door coupe" 😅😅
Ye I think they fucked up C63s are all RWD
@@farbodniazi6504 wrong
aka _sphen all c63’s are rwd, new ones will most likely be awd but thats not out yet.
@@aka_sphen872 I don't think anything I said was wrong
I’ll take the S3 exterior with the MB interior. Forget the BMW
Man!... Wait for the new S3!!
In 2 more years!
kartik bitra it's an evolution remember. Audi remakes are always subtle
Without a doubt, you guys are the most hilarious, creative and honest car reviewers on the Tube!! I became a subscriber today!! I'm a 30 year career car guy...(who also happens to be an award-winning Los Angeles based jazz musician) But I've been an auto enthusiast my entire life!!
You guys deliver the goods, good, bad or ugly while(st) never taking yourselves too seriously.... or seriously at all which is just fine with me!! I can't wait till your next shoot! You've got the best job in the world, mine are a distant second!!
The BMW looks like a Dodge dart from the side🤣🤣
Jake G More like a KIA.. If they black out the grills
3 years later I bought the CLA35. I was about to throw down for the S3 and on a whim I walked across the street to the Benz dealer in LA and took a look just for kicks. I was blown away at how nice it looked in comparison. The interior is amazing, a level above the Audi. Drive wise the Merc felt more engaging and even felt faster. I threw my money at the salesman and I can't believe I was even considering the S3, I felt like it was the boobie prize for someone that couldn't find an RS3. It bored me. The BMW was never considered, I don't think anyone is considering that turdmobile... FUGLEY! Dollar per dollar the CLA35/45 is Mercedes best car right now and easily the best in the price range in the last decade.
14:15 everyone got a third🤣
I would get an RS3 instead, especially if we got the hatch over here. Great review, glad to have y'all back!
What I got out of this video for the BMW, if your going to buy the BMW M235i, just buy a Mini Cooper 5dr or Clubman instead. Same car, but better in all ways.
the CLA designer thing was fun as hell
The BMW looks like a van...
Love the intro!
Personally i would just get a Ford Focus RS, which might not be not as fast but surely is most fun!
have a nice day! :)
That bmw is so uglyyy
Ford focus rs have more hp than those three.
@@Raccoon850 ^^
Nice episode! Thanks Valerie!
Ahhh yess, a long throttle house video
Thoroughly entertaining video. Totally enjoyed watching.
Woo hoo! Throttle House to save the day! Awesome videos, guys. You’ve been killing it lately. 👍
Totally agreed with u guys.A channel with a taste.
I used to dislike the CLA because it lacked the looks for the pricetag but this one looks sick!
Hallo, thank you for your honest review about this "m235i"
I own a bmw m140i and as I work as a developer for the car industry, I have to say you totally right. The BMW is a really good car and you can go very very fast on backroads with this car. A normal driver would be much faster with the new compared to the m240i. But you definitely miss the thrill of driving. This car is so boring. In fact you can do nothing wrong in this car. Even when you get off the throttle in the middle of a corner that you drive quite on the limit, the tail will do nothing. And poweroversteering.... haha, you can forget about that. Its a very good car and for probably 90% of the people who will drive it, it is the more safety and faster car than the old one. But for real driving pleasure, this is definitely the wrong car.
That's a shame, because with new generation of the 3 series bmw is back at it's best.
And you guys really can look forward to drive the new 4 series!! Yes, I dont like the grill, but it drives amazing!
S3 clearly the best looking
Agreed. It’s a timeless design whereas the CLA will look extremely dated in 10 years.
@@cjmhall yes, timeless, looks like shit.
Nope
Full confirmation that M now stands for Marketing alone. It's staggering that the 235 has a BMW badge let alone the M one. This is what happens when you quit motorsports. Sometimes, it's more than titles and winning. It's R&D for your product line many decades in advance. And the conviction for sticking to the core identity - the death of BMW really. I fully resonate with Thomas on that video above. It's sadness more than anything else.
Super funny intro. Curious tough at the Mercedes price point the RS3 would be a better adversary
Thomas looking fine af in this video, love the hair. Keep up the awesome intros
I’ve got a 2014 S3 - Java Green, it’s on a PFL but still seems a great car (virtual cockpit would be nice next time)
BMW 240i is a solid car but can’t see many people wanting X-Drive, people pick Audi for the straight line and Bmw for the cornering character (the new models haven’t gone down well in the Uk going to front wheel or x drive), 👌🏻
I’ve never considered Mercedes I’m not a big fan of the media displays/controls, I think they look nicer on the outside than the inside,
I’m going to stick with S3 for now, a software / dsg map brings them up too 360-380bhp
The best choice
Another amazing review. Thanks for always putting our spectacular content. I look forward to every video you guys make. You should have 3 million subs. Way better then 90% of other auto channels!
The interior of the CLA is drop dead gorgeous
Chima Chinda It really is but unfortunately allot of the new Mercedes models creak and rattle, just like they said theirs did!
Woah, they could say "m235i gran coupe" without gagging! Good on you for giving it a try
S3 is still the most handsome car, like a human body, a true embodiment of handsomeness in a human way
If only the dashboard were a little bit less cheap.
@@4rzaluz the a class entered the chat
I think you guys have improved a lot throughout your upload history, not in quality of the video itself but in the way you communicate between each other and to the viewers
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Ohh so good to have you guys back at it with the cleaver and witty car reviews!!! Thomas.. your ranting about the BMW was hilarious and the read end review super funny
Thomas is really upset about that BMW 😂😂🤣😂🤣
For those who want a correct bmw M235i review -> Carwow