The Affordable EV We've All Been Waiting For - BYD Seagull / Dolphin Mini
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ส.ค. 2023
- A review of the BYD Seagull / Dolphin Mini, the best affordable EV on Earth.
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All the hype in 2023 has been about the BYD Seagull, or Dolphin Mini depending on where you live, and whether it will be the car to bring affordable, no compromises, small electric motoring to the masses. As it turns out, it absolutely should do. An incredibly joyful car, packed full of character and grown-up car features, and so affordable you might just be able to find the cash down the back of your sofa. This tiny little car is going to be HUGE and could just be the best Chinese car of all.
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Cheap and good car is what we need. Forget what our leaders are telling us about the Chinese cars. We loved it and we can afford it. Thank you BYD!
Exactly. Don't let the EU leaders mug you off. They get paid a lot to ruin your lives.
yeah if the battery are sane
FFS u guys are no 1 batt maker how can it catch fire
@sargera1 I don't think the batteries are sentient so they can't go insane.
BYD have the most customer complaints of all manufacturers in China.
I'll stick to what I have for now !
@@chefineer They also sell twice as many or more cars as pretty much every other brand in China, so what would you expect. If they sold as many as Alfa Romeo or Land Rover and had as many faults as they do then I might be concerned.
The Seagull is expected to be the first sub-100k BRL (about USD 20k) EV in Brazil, and very likely will be manufactured in the new BYD plant in the state of Bahia (formerly the Ford plant). BYD already have batteries/solar panels and bus factories in Brazil.
Can´t wait for it to get here.
You'll enjoy it when it gets there.
Will Brazil made Seagull use the Brazil made battery?
@yecloud Good question. You'd have to suspect yes if they're planning on making batteries there too.
I would buy that in a heartbeat, perfect for nipping around the city, BYD has a few models in Australia now, so fingers crossed. great video. Thank you
I believe they've copyrighted the name there so fully expect it to get there. Honestly, a brilliant little package. Maybe their best yet.
BYD Australia said no😢
@@ADudesRotary I reckon they're being coy. Give it some time. If there's demand, it'll be there.
This size of EV is currently what is missing from manufactures offerings. Bring it to the UK for £15-18k and it would be a huge hit.
Absolutely. If they get the price right on this, that Seagull gonna fly.
Could be hard, taxes and fees would easily double the price. Continental Europe might be able to get it at the right price, as BYD is planning on establishing their Europe factory, and seagull almost certainly will be the model being manufactured there... as long as BYD’s marketing stuff are not idiots. Being a “local” product will help them getting rid of “unnecessary costs”.
@@albertloxton4520while with the extra cost to produce!
@@albertloxton4520Considering that the Seagull starts at 73,800 RMB, which converts to 7,960 GBP, double would be less than 16,000 GBP...
UK government says no.
BYD is definatelly one of the bestselling few EVs seen on Thai roads. Haven't seen this model here yet though. Neta is the most popular budget EV here so far. Eventhough it doesn't look a full size car. Nice video as always. 👍
This car will go down a storm no matter where it goes. Even for double the price I don't think there's any real competition for this currently.
@@InsideChinaAuto a bit like charging points then
But the neta is crap. Doesn't even have driver's seat height adjustment
This car is about the size of a Toyota Yaris. I think the MG 4, if they put in the latest CATL battery in it, is better value. BYDis good but a little boring.
nata cars are of average quality but cheap. In the Chinese market, BYD's sales are higher than the output of all other new energy vehicles combined.
This car is honestly impressive. Shocking! Great review, keep up the good work.
Glad you liked it. I really enjoyed this one and I think it came out in the video. Fun car.
Great car for the price, sad bit is dealers in the UK will probably inflate the price too high.
or ban the communist for national security season.
I think it's a bit of the brand and bit of the taxes and duties that punch the price up, but I don't think they'll be able to take the same liberties at this end of the market, not with the MG4 sitting around at £25k.
Exactly. Look how much the Ora Cat costs. Was meant to rrp sub £25k. Think it’s going for £35k (ish) with a smaller battery.
哈哈，被调查了😂
This car is coming to Brazil very soon and I'm excited to see how it will shake things up in our domestic car market (which is filled with expensive and underequipped cars from legacy automakers).
At the right price it'll make a milkshake of the market. Curious how soon it'll get to other markets.
Shame the British tax payer is funding Jaguar £500 million to build £150,000 cars for the wealthy instead of a car like this ! For the people 😢
I would love to start a British car company making small cars like this for the world.
That money going into Tata Motors
Bye Bye legacy automakers
Don't know how they can compete with this on price. It's so much car for the money.
Brilliant car.
To be realistic.... It is only sold in China and China's economy is now breaking apart... The cars BYD sells here in Europe are too overpriced. They are even more expensive than a Tesla, so why would anyone buy a BYD car - no one will.... 9nly if they Go wayyyyy down with prices
Exactly, byd is too expensive in Eu.
Hahahahahaha this is pure plastic crap.
Tell us more about how wonderful china is 🤣
If that was on offer here in the U.K. for £10k I’d honestly be ordering two. We’ve been waiting for a car like this to replace our family hack and my commuting car.
It'll be £15k minimum here but then so is a Hyundai i10.
@@Yesterzine tbh I’ll be surprised if it’s that low.
Yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if it closer to £20k - depressing, I hope I’m wrong!
£10K for it with the tariffs, shipping cost n dealership profits etc? Quite impossible I'll say.
If such cars are made by a British company with it's own know-how n technologies in UK itself, highly doubt it can be sold at that price-point
As others have said, I think £10k will be a bit ambitious for the UK, but somewhere between 14 and 18 would be a good sweet spot.
This has overtaken Tesla model Y in China, won't be long until this is the worlds best selling EV, just a matter of time for BYD to keep ramping up.
Definitely. It's much smaller than the Y of course and cheaper so should sell more, but it's very, very impressive for what it is and just a joy to drive.
I'm not sure if this will be available on Europe/Australia as BYD had to increase size of Dolphin for it to pass their stringent crash tests. I think this will sell on ASEAN
erm, yeah like the model Y is five times the cost...so, yeah of course its gonna sell more!
Model Y SOLD 50000+ IN JUNE AND 25000+ IN JULY IN CHINA. It is the most popular SUV in every segment.
This is like the honda civic moments few decades ago
Perfect economy car! Looks better than any legacy small car ! 😊😊😊
It's really ideal as a city car and great fun too. Cities need these, not SUVs.
I hope this comes to the uk at a reasonable price. I would snap it up in a heartbeat
It'll certainly come, I'm sure of that. Only question is the price. Fingers crossed.
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The problem is that BYD don't get their pricing anywhere near their Chinese prices in Europe.
I know that the company has been very disappointed by its European sales, but that is hardly surprising when you consider that BYD habitually have a price multiplier of about 2,5 for European sales. That means that the Seagull will probably go on sale in the UK at about £25K, which places it at a marketing point that is within shooting distance of the base spec MG4, which has more than 100bhp more power!
Not only that, but BYD's dealer network seems to be near non-existent, at least where I am. And that is far from the case with their main competitor, MG, which now has a well developed presence across much of mainland Europe, not just the UK.
I am certainly interested in something like the Seagull (and really don't have anything against BYD as a brand), but the price point really does have to compensate for the lack of useable size and dealer network.
Dolphin went from the under 15k euro china price up to 35k europe price. I like the car if they sold it for under 25k in europe. At 30/35k they will sell 3 cars in the whole continent. Same for this smaller version: for under 20k yes, anything over it it's a no, no, no. Let's not forget they are cheap city cars. And Mg4 is not much better in the ratio price/quality: in china it costs half than a model 3 (and rightly so!) while in europe it costs just a little bit less of a model 3: not worth it.
@@tpn3561 £27k vs £43k is "just a little bit less".
I think your second complaint kind of explains your first one. A lack of established dealships network means BYD would not be capable of meeing the increased demand should it choose to reduce the price, which I also think is what BYD can and will do in the future, but not until the dealships network is built.
will be nearer to £20k if sold in uk where you have to pay 30% tarrif/tax 30% dealership costs 30% shipping
Where does it say that BYD is "very disappointed" with European sales? They only have Atto3 available in Europe and few more cars in tiny Nordic markets. Atto3 was best seller in Sweden in July btw
Great review. The engineering team is doing an excellent job. Only China can offer such value in a car. This price range is affordable. A few years ago, a Toyota Camry cost about $8000.00 out of the factory, but by the time the consumer paid for the car, it was about $22000 in the US. The middleman layer is really killing it. The next challenge is to disrupt the buying process such as direct orders from the factory. China will have enough volume and can do it.
Agreed, they're doing very well, and the world is begging for more cars like this while the EU is legislating and investigating cheap EVs out of existence to line their pockets.
You serious about the 8k cost of the Camry? How do you know and is that for real?
Thanks
@@Druze_Tito That was at least 10 years ago. The engineering cost is still true. The extra costs are attributed to inflation as a result of monetary devaluation. I used to work for a Japanese firm, and I can assure you that from the engineering perspective, we squeezed design improvement focusing on design, manufacturing, and sourcing into the pennies. I bought the last model of Toyota Tacoma where all components were premium. The car was strong, sleek, and superb. A friend of mine bought the successive model that was a cost-down version. From electronic devices to cars, successive models were going through cost optimization for at least 2 years. The balance was not to turn a good design into a cheap toy.
BYD bring this to Australia!!!!
Believe the name is registered so it's coming at some point.
@InsideChinaAuto I actually emailed BYD in Australia the other week and they replied saying they could not foresee the Seagull being imported here.😢
Love your through reviews, very straight to the points, full of info. and don't miss a thing. You're like a ASMR, your reviews are just satisfying.
Haha, just like that feedback. Thank you very much.
Intelligent and straight to the point, great review thank you. All the fun you were having has sold me on this little gem🙏
Glad that came across. Often it's the smallest cars that offer the most joy.
I love that little thing, it reminds me of the Hyundai I10 from 2016, love that Hyundai,. And damn I have been wanting another car like it, but the small cars barely sells at the moment. But a electric small city car or a second car for a family, that thing is impressive, specially with a real range from 300 km.
It's awesome, genuinely fun to drive and feels like a grown up car. It's the EV many have been crying out for in my opinion.
Good thorough review. Thank you .
You're welcome. Genuinely enjoyed this one, it offered something different to talk about. A lot of fun.
Very good reviews and full of specification Thank you so much
No problem. I really loved making this one.
Import duties and VAT will kill it in Europe.
They'll kill that price but it's already starting low. Even at double the price, what's competing with it currently?
Very comprehensive review - thanks! Apparently the front end of the BYD Dolphin had to be reengineered for export, presumably to meet international crash standards (the export cars have a slightly longer nose). Hopefully the Seagull was engineered for export from the ground up.
Interesting fact, I hadn't heard that. Let's see how this fares then. That it comes with the dual front and curtain airbags as standard is a good sign I think. Most small cars are lucky to get two front airbags in China.
@@InsideChinaAuto They increased the length of the Dolphin to 4.29 meters in Europe - maybe to better match the VW ID.3? I was interested in the dolphin since the very beginning when it was announced in China, but I don't want the larger EU size version. But with the charging port on the front right I don't have to be worried about anything - this simply disqualifies ALL BYD cars for us.
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Looks fantastic. Kinda like an electric Aygo. It’s just hard to get excited here in the UK when we see the price double or more by the time it gets here.
Yeah, price is the only thing that will hold this back if they don't get it right.
$10k? This is the perfect around town car. I'd ditch my 2005 Acura tsx I use to drive to the train station for this in a heart beat.
Will likely cost a bit more if and when it gets to the States but let's see.
Excellent video ! Thanks !
You're very welcome. Love this car a lot, really enjoyed it.
Big pull man. Very well done.
Thank you. The car did most of the work. I just talk about it.
This is exactly what I am waiting for in Australia!
Hope it gets there soon.
Would buy 2 if it did and the price is right 👍
Qiando chegar ao Brasil vai ser Sucesso de vendas ...a depender do preço de lançamento claro!!!! Tenho interesse em adquirir esse automovel 😊
Fingers crossed for a decent price there.
se o topo de linha chegar por 99.990,00 será sucesso de vendas.
Amazing!
It is. Great little car.
Great car, hope we don't get ripped off in the UK, what rumor's will Toyota and the legacy car firms spread now.
Guaranteed to be ripped off.
Good question. They don't seem to be making much like this themselves.
Before I move on to other stuff, can I say a big thank you to you & your channel for bringing the first decent review of the BYD Seagull to t'internet. I think I've viewed every TH-cam video that's ever been posted & 99% are uninformative rubbish which endlessly go over the same old ground. That this honour went to a Northern Brit makes my heart swell with national pride! If BYD had any sense, they'd entrust the car to you to do the stuff potential western customers (like me) REALLY want to see like a proper range test both in city & while tazzing along at 60mph in winter. We already know that the official range numbers are overoptimistic so the results of any realistic testing you do won't come as a surprise. Credibility is definitely something you can add to these reviews & we are definitely paying attention.
PS - also some safety info? Any signs of an ENCAP test? The Seagull DOESN'T need a 5-star to be sellable. A 3-star is acceptable (& infinitely better than the crappy 1970s Austin 1100 I first learnt to drive in!)
Really appreciate that feedback. We live in a divided and increasingly sensationalist world, I do try to keep things as close to the middle ground and reality as possible. Not all the things I value will be what everyone else wants but I do try to bring my UK perspective to the table. Glad you recognised the Northern bit too. Haha. Proud northerner even if I don't have anything like as strong an accent as I should.
As for the crash test result, haven't seen anything yet, not even a C-NCAP but will keep my eye open. I'm not expecting 5-stars given the size and price if cars like this spend most of their time at 30mph in urban spaces they shouldn't need much more, even if it will comfortably go motorway speeds.
Once again, really appreciate having you as a viewer, will keep trying to deliver interesting and regular content. Hope more of these cars head abroad soon.
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@@mahindadasahewamannage7038 Would you prefer the American model instead? It did wonders for Libya. Have you actually looked into the details of Sri Lanka's creditors?
@@mahindadasahewamannage7038 I want to buy a small, cheap Chinese EV. I've got my own belt & we have plenty of roads of our own thank you.
Perfect !
I would never buy a Wulin but the BYD seem to be a well built car, looking forward to them coming to Australia.
Would definitely say this is a cut above what you would expect from Wuling.
Wuling is more of cars for less developed markets, where people indeed need cars but cant afford any at all, and having just a few choices, is better than haveing no choices at all, the people in these regions longing for modern transportation too you know, and they absolutely deserve affordable evs.
Won't be coming to Australia.
Yeah, but they had safety ratings,
These don't even have crumple zones.
You don't get out alive and just about any crash renders the car a write off!
So, you family is expendable????
I actually just bought the Dolphin@@killmozzies
Where about did you do the filming looks amazing !?
Found a lovely park area some way out of Shanghai. Nice and quiet and great for safe droning.
I'm really looking forward to it's arrival here in Philippines, hopefully soon!
Hope so too. It can't meet the rest of the world fast enough.
If the base model is £15k in the UK it will be interesting to see the impact.
It'll never be sold in base spec in the UK. It'll almost certainly only be available in the top spec because of the NCAP rating.
@@davidcolin6519 never say never....
@@davidcolin6519 yes but NCAP is a farse because you need all the expensive electronic aids to pass. It should just be crash structure and pedestrian safety. This is what adds 15k to the price.
@@CJMVector321190 I don't get it. Why is it a farce? if the electronics help to keep you and the pedestrian population safe, isn't that better than keeping you safe while you splatter pedestrians left, right and centre? Because the whole point about the electronics is that they keep you safe, which is, erm, the point of NCAP. And it doesn't add 15K to the price, because modern cars come with lidar/radar/sensors for other functions. It costs relatively little to add the computing to link it all. That is why the base Dolphin costs only about 2K less than the fully equipped version, in spite of not having the side airbag and the smaller battery.
At £15k it would have a seismic impact on the market.
I look forward to seeing this on sale in the UK in 5 years for £25k
That's within touching distance of the MG4, which has another 100+bhp and towing capacity. Why on earth would you be willing to pay £25K for it?
There will be better cars in five years😂
@@davidcolin6519 I wouldn't. My point is that the cheap cars we see in these channels take years to come to the European market, and are vastly more expensive when they do
@@davidcolin6519 He was being sarcastic.
Think it'll get there earlier than that, and if you're lucky maybe for less than that.
They want the price more affordable, but lady Von don't allow it.
The Lady doth know not what she speaks about.
Great review can't wait to see these in Australia
Sometimes the car really helps and in this case it was just a hoot. Bloody loved it.
There is a bright yellow one around where I live. it stands out. I think the door handles look weirdly placed, but I really think that comes from how they use design to hide the overall shape. I was just in a BYD E2 (uber) and it was very impressive. I didn't drive it, but basically all you say in your review seems true in the E2. But it is little bigger and better looking. But not so much more expensive. BYD is is coming for everyone's money.
Yeah it looks good in yellow, suits the design well.
Not sure I've sat in an E2 but yes, very much they're a brand that does mainstream very well, and premium maybe a bit less, but not bad. No obvious difference from your usual mainstream candidates.
If BYD sell this in Europe, it'll be the top spec that does. That is because the safety features necessary to get a good NCAP rating can't be optional. I also see that as being the only likely method of ensuring that prices stay within reasonable bounds.
I can see this selling well where I am in Spain, but it would need to be priced at under €20K, something which I think is unlikely.
If one of the cheapest EV cars a Dacia Spring sells for around 20k In some European countries without Government incentives, this won't be lower than 30k for sure..
Not a chance, it can't compete with an mg4
@@marionthecloud9774 That is my point.
It needs to be significantly cheaper than the cheapest MG4.
Let's see how it goes. I'm as curious as you are, but it will have to be under an MG4 to work.
Thanks for a great and enthusiastic review. Would like to get behind the wheel myself. When compared to the small Eva’s from Citroen and Dacia it offers so much more coupled with, what I consider, great looks. Thanks again. Maurice from Malvern UK.
You're very welcome Malcolm. This car was really entertaining. Made a change to have something a bit more basic but full of joy. We need more cars like this.
nice. looks great
It's not bad at all, they've done a really good job.
its a car that's coming to brazil in 2024 and is expected in the R$100k-R$120k range which is around £15k to £18k
Decent car at that price. Is there much else for that price in Brazil?
@@InsideChinaAutono, it will crush the competition.
@@InsideChinaAuto the only other electric car at that price point is the chery icar. On the other hand there are alot of non electric options at that price point including the chevy onix rs, hyundai hb20, fiat strada, chevy montana, nissan versa, vw virtus, nissan kicks and the hyundai creta
This should be a hit in EU, if the price stay reasonable, similarly sized and styled i10 with little internal combustion engine cost 11690€, Seagull would make that car pretty much pointless.
Exactly. The price will be important so let's see what they go for. They've aimed high in Europe so far. Not sure they'll be able to be so ambitious with what should be an affordable car.
I don't see any way that it'll sell for anywhere near that in the EU. Much more likely that it'll be closer to €25,000.
They'll not want to export the base specs because, without all the tech and airbags, its NCAP score is going to be rubbish. So we'll only get the top spec, 40KW version.
Nor, unfortunately, do I see it coming in under €20K. If it did, I might be interested, as I'd be getting €7,500 off that price because of subsidies etc. That would bring it close to i10 territory. At anything much over €20K, and it's starting to get too close to the MG 4 for my money, and MG has a much better dealer network, has RWD and an LFP battery ass well as being significantly bigger inside AND has towing capacity.
Wow impressive good job BYD 👍🏼
Great job. Fun car with a really good interior.
Excellent presentation and production. Great that you reply to most comments. How would you rate the Seagul against a recent i3?
I do my best, it's good for debate, even with those who are simply negative. Thanks for the compliment. I'm assuming you mean the BMW i3 which is a bigger car in person and I never had the chance to drive it. The BMW is almost certainly more complete and polished as a package given that it's a BMW, but this is a really impressive car for the price and feels like a real car, not just a cheap tiny with compromises.
Sounds like all it needs is a suspension upgrade to lessen the body roll, and you have a good little car. 😊
It's very good now, but a sportier version wouldn't go amiss.
Seagull is really good, quickly becoming best selling small car in China after delivery startd 2 or 3 months ago.
Best selling EV in China full stop last month, beating out the Model Y.
Great video and car! If/when it comes to Spain it will sell very well 👏👏👏
Thank you. Let's hope it gets there. I liked this a lot.
Thank you for this presentation! This car is great, you confirm the idea I had about it. Unfortunately, it won't be in France before 2025 I think! I bought an electric Dacia Spring while waiting for it.... Good luck to you!
Cheers BenBen. It impressed me a lot and made me smile a lot too. It's all the car I can imagine most people needing most of the time.
Great review of the really interesting BYD Seagull EV, At that kind of price point & the amount of kit you get it would transition masses of drivers over to electric. It's well within daily commuting & everyday usage & being retired it would suit our needs perfectly.
If it came over to the UK/EU it would sell like hot cakes.
not enough power to charge everyone..by about 99.9%
Couldn't agree more. The world needs these and more like them.
As always there will be market pricing for this car which is charging as much as you can in each market before buyers walk away.
So in the UK expect to pay about £20k for the Seagul.
Most likely. Not much else at that price though in EVs. MG4 isn't far off though so they'd need to factor that in.
I was interested in the Dolphin but it looks more expensive than an MG4. BYD will struggle big time before they have brand recognition in the UK.
I'm probably just going to wait for Teslas Model 2 as i cant see anything having better value for money not just RRP.
Wish we can get one in Canada!❤
Hopefully your chance comes soon enough.
Excellent!
I think so too
Finally an actual review of this car, I though it was not real! I'm not sure if the Top speed is 100km/h or 130km/h, theres conflicting information online.
I couldn't find that figure either. It's definitely at least 100 though.
@@InsideChinaAuto In your test were you able to exceed 103 km/h. If it can do more than 103, it would be the perfect first electric car for me, seriously considering importing it, China is killing it in the EV race!
topd speed is 130
@Nayef180 I honestly can't remember if I did but it was still pulling at over 90kph no problem so really don't expect it to be an issue. I'll double check with BYD, see if we can get a real answer.
@@infoworld7706 That sounds about right. It was very happy at 90 with plenty left in the tank.
I would be happy to pay more for a panoramic glass roof with shade. Hope they include this as an option in the near future.
I have a funny feeling that a sunroof would compromise the structural integrity of the car. Note the very small rear hatch, leaving thick C-pillars for rollover testing. I wonder if a sunroof would just make the car too fragile and wobbly.
a panaromic glass roof is a lot cheaper. i prefer proper roof as it is better for insulation.
Let's see if they upgrade it at some point but if it's not on the current range I don't expect it to be added. Could be wrong though.
This looks amazing! BYD seem to have almost come out of nowhere!
Their rise over the last 18 months since going fully electrified (PHEVs and BEVs) has been quite something to witness.
good looking car.
It's pretty sharp, but an even better car than it looks.
It's a very desirable car, specially at that price. I drive s couple of Toyotas which I'm quite happy with. But when it's time to upgrade, I'll be looking at BYD
Definitely worth a look. Toyota don't seem keen on giving us anything like this just yet.
Too bad the back seats don't bend in 2/3 and 1/3. Maybe there is option for that to buy? I have daihatsu sirion 2007 and that really helps for small cars. You can take 2 people and larger stuff after you fold 2/3 back seat. Also my daihatsu has bottom of the seats which you can move forward to get more space. Without folding seat. Hope they will sell it in Europe soon.
Yeah, will have to see if they choose to offer a split rear seat in other markets. It would be a benefit. No sliding though. Chinese cars tend to do maximum folding rear cushions and that's it, not even flip bases. Sure it'll come to Europe though.
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They've certainly built theirs.
Best reviewer in China👍👍👍👍👍
Haha, you're too kind. Thank you.
Idk what's keeping BYD from coming to Indonesia but with Neta, Maxus, and GWM group coming and showing interest to built factory here, i hope BYD could come soon.
But i have zero hope that this car will be a sub £10K car if it ever come here, not even the Wuling AirEV and Seres E1 are that cheap here. At the very least it must be closer to £20K.
Lol Complete Knock Down BS. They double up the price of Segway E200.
Most likely. Seems Asia has the same markups as Europe based on what you say. Hope it gets there at some point though, you have a huge emerging market there.
BYD's new factory is in Thailand and the parts factory is in Vietnam.
Can't really see this being sub £10k in the UK as every other small EV coming soon seems to be aiming for sub £20k. Maybe they'll meet halfway at £15k which is where the market for small cars seems to be at these days? The top model will probably be closer to £20k. We have a BYD distributor in our town already so that's one barrier removed but the Atto3 starts at £33k so not cheap.
I think it's 20% import tariff, then VAT on top. At £15K it would be amazing.
You'll never get the base model because it doesn't have much of the safety tech that is necessary to get a decent NCAP rating.
Expect only the top spec version, and if the price comes in at under £20K, you'll be lucky.
I think that it's much more likely to come in at somewhere like £22K
Yeah, they're punching quite high with their other cars. Won't have the same luxury with this one. MG4 is bigger and more powerful so it'll have to come in lower I reckon.
For context they've announced the Dolphin will start at £25.5k.
@@bluefish2303 Where exactly have they announced that?
Hello, I stumbled upon you on Twitter and then came to TH-cam to follow you. I really like your videos and I am a fan of yours. Will you photograph BYD Seal or NIO, or even some of Geely’s electric vehicles?
Great to have you, glad you like the content. We may get a Seal at some point, and I've just done our first NIO finally so that'll come in a few weeks. Geely we will get more soon with the E7 to come, and I'm half way through a Zeekr X. Stay tuned, there's plenty on the way. Thanks for watching.
Good one. It's a real hit. Legacy automakers should take note
Indeed. Not enough EVs of this size and price out there.
If BYD follow their practices to date, that Seagull will sell for well over €25,000 in Europe. Their pricing to date rules then out from my consideration. Sparkling water at Champagne money.
like Tesla.
Let's see. They'd be wasting its potential at that price.
when will this come to the United Kingdom ? and hopefully with a similar price 😂 a great replacement to the Seat Mii electric or VW e-Up which are no longer being made
I'd wager sometime next year this will make it to the UK. No guarantee but I think you have the Atto 4 now so the door is open for them.
Great review 🎉 They will mark it up a few grand.(pounds)
Thanks. I really enjoyed making this one.
Here in Uruguay a renault eKWID costs 30k with much less space, security, and tech while the seagull costs 24k. Im getting a seagull next month.
Awesome, so Seagull is there already? Love this car, such a brilliant little machine.
In Europe the prices are double. Government wants to get paid as well.
Indeed they do. They don't want you to have nice things, you pay them so they can have them instead.
BYD won't sell it close to that price outside of China. It will be two and a half times as much, minimum - it's beyond me why these channels keep persisting with the fiction that everyone will be driving around in £10k ev anytime soon.
Actually it’s dependent on the country. Price of BYDs in Southeast Asia are just slightly above the price in China, followed by Australia where its price is still quite a bargain , and then it goes to Europe with nearly twice the price as it is in China....So I think it’s more of import taxes and local dealership thing.
There is nothing to do with BYD for inflated prices outside China. Because there are many causes for the prices to be inflated like shipping costs, import tax, dealers' profit margin etc.....
I only state that the car is available somewhere in the world at this price but as others have said, it varies wildly so impossible to really say accurately for everyone.
That thing is amazing, i want one...from quebec canada.
They're really good. Much better than I was expecting, and importantly it's actually fun too.
Do you happen to know why they aren't selling such cars in north America ,(Canada) @@InsideChinaAuto
@TechWizMaster Well currently the Seagull is just in China, launched about 2 months ago. It will go to other countries in the future so a grey import may be possible for you, but due to the US and China having a frosty relationship at the moment, it likely won't be available officially. Not sure how much the US policy influences Canada but I know there's often border crossing so they might not be too keen on Chinese cars roaming around Canada. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think there are currently any Chinese car brands there.
@@InsideChinaAuto not yet you're right i don't think so but google seem to want to indicate that it might just be coming in the next year or so...there is hope :) thanks for your answer...i was not even aware that china had such a nice variety of vehicles glad i found your channel i will for sure watch some more! ✌
Does the car have ventilated frontseats ? - or will there be an equipment variant with fabric seats ?
No vented seat option I'm afraid and currently no fabric option. Who knows maybe they'll offer something else for other markets if the demand is right.
Hooray....an enjoyable, very affordable & competent city/urban EV but how long before the rest of the world will see it? BYD has beaten Tesla to the $25,000 punch....
I think this one will be heading to the world fairly soon. No idea exactly when but within the next 12 months I'd imagine.
Take my money 😢
I'd love to but I don't own one.
Damn soo much value
It is, right? A lot of car for the money.
This one I like but what's it like on motorways and whats the top speed thanks mate
Honestly was totally fine on motorways in my opinion. Didn't feel unsafe or unstable. It should do up to 130kph, but it definitely does over 100. I couldn't remember if I'd gone over 100 so I checked with the guy who drove it after me and he confirmed it does.
Shame that it wouldn't ever be possible to get this for £10 in the UK. Interesting video, packed with information. Thanks.
ur VAT alonr makes it impossible.
Yeah, 10k is quite unlikely but even at twice the price should be a good proposition compared to the current competition
seems as if they had a very, very close look to the Renault Twingo E-Tech 🙂Nearly everything you tell about that car - we find in ourTwingo as well. And guess what, charme and character in tons. We just love it, every single kilometer
I do love a good Twingo.
Perfect EV replacement for my 2014 Mitsubishi Mirage. Compact, nimble, easy to park. Just hoping that it's coming to Australia for a reasonable price.
Hope the price is good too. It'll be a great replacement for the Mirage.
Welcome ❤
Hope you get this one. You'll enjoy it.
I have been waiting for a review on this car, thanks very much. I travel about 30km per day for work and do a small amount of running round, really been waiting for something like this to come along, but from what BYD Australia has said they don't intend to bring this car here. Maybe a bit of marketing strategy to increase sales of the Dolphin here in the short term. Ooh 1 other thing, how tall are you, just wanting to gauge my fit.😊
I'm 5'11 so about average or slightly above, not entirely sure. Was plenty spacious enough with more room to go. BYD have registered the name so let's see. Hope you get the chance to give it a go. It's smile-inducing.
BYD had make some incredible EVs! Japan got hold of a BYD Seal model, dismantled piece by piece and examine all the parts carefully and came out a book on the detail engineering of the car! The book was sold for US$6,340 per book, for engineering experts on how BYD got it so right on the engineering of the car!
BYD Seagull will be a big hit on the small EV sector while the Seal will hit very hard on competitors in the mid range EVs.
Agreed. I think this Seagull will likely have the biggest impact because so many people want into EVs but can't afford it. This car might finally make it affordable, at least more affordable, in most places. It could be huge.
Amazing impressive for city driving , easy parking awesome with cost effective price.
It's a great car, love it.
looks like my scion XA, a fun little car, which incidentally cost a hair under $12000.00 in 2006.
Haha. Good design has a way of coming back around.
I want one! When is it coming to the US?
Good question. Might be waiting a while. BYD not there yet and US doesn't look like letting Chinese brands in any time soon.
BYD a landmark in dependable reliable well constructed junk.
That's a lot of good things and one bad.
Watched a few of BYD models review. I’ve noted that to make it a bit better replace the tyres with quality ones.
Yup, definitely better tyres would be better. The Landsails or whatever they're called don't cut it.
Hope we get this in the uk by 2024 for £18k or less
Reasonable chance I'd say.
Nice car
It is, very good.
What speed does it do is it motorway friendly?
130kph, so yes. Was stable too.
Was watching this vid for the umpteenth time & a question popped into my head. Does the Seagull have regenerative braking & if so, what's it like? Any chance of one pedal driving (asking for wifey who struggles with complex mechanical stuff!).
It does have regenerative braking and there are two levels to choose from, though neither is particularly strong and there didn't seem to be a huge difference between them. Certainly it's nothing like one pedal driving and the car doesn't come to a full stop.
@@InsideChinaAuto Many thanks!
I love it. And I think it’s perfect for a college student. And single person retired. That would be me.
It absolutely would be.
need this in the US
I agree.
Love this car! Im long awaited it, but not knowing much about battery chem. I prefer LFP with 6000 cycle...
You lost me at 6000 cycle. Sure you'd enjoy this car though.
When is this car will be available in the Philippines?
Can't imagine it will be too long. Late next year might be a good shout. Hopefully.
lovely
Agreed.