@@HRCSJSUAMMAS the F100 at least has AOA, rate fighters are cool but when you need to kill people quickly at the start of the match you'd better pull hard without changing your trajectory too much. This is why Mirages and Jaguars are so good at the starts but become practically useless for carrying due to poor speed retention, and in the very opposite side, why the MiG19 sucks so badly at the start of the match but can 1v10 only person standing and win the match by doing 3v1s
This plane was absolute pain when grinding the Germans. The constant 10 BR lobbies with it and the fact that the F86K is worse in almost every aspect compared to its competitors at around 9 BR is crazy.
@@TrixoPLAYS it's like AOA limiter = bad at start of the game but good for late game and high AOA = good at the start bad for carries and then you have the MiG19 that days screw you I got everything... Other than the appallingly slow shells that go 700m/s the plane is just mind numbing, it's ridiculous it used to share BR with the Sabre dog
Sounds like löpa which means to be ready for procreation in animals like dogs in swedish, this makes for a funny interpretation hahahaha. Or löpa as in run.
he just commits some small mistakes he can quickly prevent from snowballing, and since he seeks perfection for himself he finds like he's not delivering as much as he wants. But the fun part is, that he's not gonna laugh at you if you perform badly, unlike most great players with boasting ego... or other players that are absolutely dogshit and call you bad out of pure envy because you managed to out play their MiG23MLD on your F104A in a short distance gunfight.
the first dogfight was beautiful. Seeing you go from him being 500 metres behind you and spraying you down to a victory with just a few errors from him and clever steps from you.
he was lucky with the opponent, apparently there is a very weak player. If the mig 17 had a player with at least 1-1.5 K/D on the mig-17, I guarantee you that even DEFYN would not have succeeded, because the F-86K is an absolutely terrible dogfight aircraft
You should totally play the Sa'ar. It's slower than an A-10 after 2-3 turns, accelerates slower than early props and has the funny shafrir-2 missiles (and ccip for bombs)
Your enemies just didn't know how bad the F-86K's maneuverability really was. If they had flown on this plane at least once, they would have realized that it can be twisted even on Canberra, you just don't need to make stupid mistakes.
Well you completely stomped the bet so I guess it's fair to sub the family tree, it's gonna be less awkward than asking only my gran to sub for sure, but lost bets apart, happy I made it into one of my favourites TH-camrs video, just not in the way I had in mind...
I adored the F86K but it ripped so easily. I rarely got kills with it but it is an awesome plane. I'd occasionally get aces with it but I *ALWAYS* got stomped.
hey defyn, awesome video; would love to see you revisit the Re.2005 as it's one of my all time favorite planes and is incredibly fun to fly despite the constant 6.0 uptiers
Hey DEFYN, big ❤ for all the recent uploads, you are saving my whole week with this! I always watch your videos after work to just chill out (and see how one could get kills in wt if hes blessed with skill xD) Just wanted to say dont overwork yourself with all the uploads, im more than good with one or two vids a week. Most of your fans propably agree too :) I just want to have you around, if best for always here on youtube, saving my shitty weeks, and of course improving my bad piloting skills xD Much love from germany
6:54 Not quite sure about that part tho. It was true when the m24 cannon first came into to the game, it was a copy-pasted t-160. But lately gaijin noticed the mistake and fixed both the fire rate and muzzle velocity of the gun. Not sure if they changed the belt or not, but someone does mention it feels like firing t-160 rounds(damage wise) with AN/M3.(Well it should be, since m24 was actually the Air Force-version AN/M3) The muzzle velocity is where I’m not sure because I know the numbers on stat cards are not always trustworthy. For instance, the stat card muzzle velocity of HE rounds in Mk103 cannon is the same low velocity as Mk108 rounds, which you can clearly tell it’s not the same.(Correct me if gaijin did fix this since I haven’t touched anything with Mk103 for quite some time) Maybe the same shit happens here, but I also can’t tell since I haven’t touched anything with m24 cannons for a long time either.
Hey Defyn Since it has happened for the second time now, I would like to correct a mistake here. The unit for energy is Joule and not Newton, Newton is used for thrust. In addition, it offers itself for larger numbers to work with a Si prefix such as 350 000 joules 350 kilo joules.
" Newton is used for thrust." - Newton is used for *force*, not for thrust. Thrust is a force, so N is indeed the appropriate unit, but but with how you worded it it's incorrect, because its also used for a wide array of other kinds of force.
Heres a suggestion, try out the MiG-21F-13 and see how hard it is to play, 60 rounds of ammo, and 2 R-3Ss at 9.3 and you usually see uptiers. very hard to fly.
at the end of 11.3 matches i just get my whole team to bum rush the opposing af and we can usually get the last person camping there. the sams usually dont shoot at more than one or maybe two people at a time
Defyn could u try playing the k4 and ta 152 H again? It would be really helpful to see how u would counter being completely outnumbered by competent allied pilots with the current ju288c spam. If u actually manage an ace I’ll sub to ur patreon no questions asked
That dude at the beginning lol when he realised. Also does anyone have any tips for early US jets? I've been getting 1-2 kills each game and cannot do much.
If you’re flying the F-80A, all you can really do is pray that your team isn’t 75% F-84s and that the good planes you do have on your team have competent pilots. If you’re flying the F-84, all I can really say is… why?
@@sillylittleowlguy2392 Thanks man. I'm not stupid enough to fly the F-84 but 90 percent of my games are full of them. I can get more kills like 3-4 now but it is such a pain. By the time ive done anything my team is all dead
I've faced them a lot on the MiG19 and even though they're quite climby they're still too slow and the MiG19 even out dogfights them at nearly most speeds below 1050 kmh so I just spare them too alongside the rest of subsonic aircraft I might meet.
As someone who mainly uses Armoured belts over air I feel it is much more consistent damage wise especially when flying planes such as the F2 Sabre or using planes with M3 .50's. War Thunder has their damage models for planes done in a way where HE has a change to spark as opposed to AP. This was at least true in older versions of the game but a lot of older players such as myself still opt for armoured because of the aforementioned problems.
Not completely terrible. You just have to keep your speed up and make efficient lines for yourself to intercept them. Basically look for fur balls and be opportunistic
As someone who mainly uses Armoured belts over air I feel it is much more consistent damage wise especially when flying planes such as the F2 Sabre or using planes with M3 .50's. War Thunder has their damage models for planes done in a way where HE has a change to spark as opposed to AP. This was at least true in older versions of the game but a lot of older players such as myself still opt for armoured because of the aforementioned problems.
@@howitzer2839 I find it is usually personal preference, however in my experience, I have found running armoured belts on the M3's result in more critical damage or just an out right kill. I have also tried this with a few other friends and they were able to instantly notice a difference in the damage.
Tried it, still hate it. Burned through all the free repairs on the German one before even getting compressor, you just can never get the guns on and even when you do they do nothing. The “speed” from the afterburner doesn’t help you and you’re slower than an A5 Sabre without it. The missiles are rank 4 and I’ve barely broken into rank 2 even from ground pounding, the belts just don’t do enough. 2/10 still better than the F84F stock grind
Would love to see a vid on the spit mk 22, i feel like it has just been abandoned by the community as a whole and tbf its justified, but i still find it very enjoyable in downtiers and somwhat capable for a prop against jets considering early jet player IQs
@@reinbeers5322 when it was 6.3 it got many downtiers like the P51H and F8F but it was unpopular and got it's shit clubbed by yak9Ps Ta152Hs and I225s and basically every American prop except F7F.
@@reinbeers5322 it's more 7.0 than the Mk24 itself, my god even an La-7 is faster than it and the yak3u is a better energy and rate fighter that can even one circle the mk24 plus the stubby griffons (mk22/24) have awful over roll and the instructor loves to input rudder too much. I've crashed more times into the ground with the mk24 than with the I225 and this latter one has abhorrent compression past 450 IAS.
Very nice flying but you had matches with roughly equal BR. Try this plane undertiered facing mig 21s, mig 19, etc and maybe these tactics wont apply... Great performance though and perfect aiming!
A4s had one thing going for them.. i.e. the air spawn (and resultant early game potential) and now that's no longer the case. Defyn has already done a couple of videos on A4B, A4Es and other A4s. (Just in case you were not aware.)
I don't understand how a plane with leading edge wing slats can turn this bad. It's not much different from the og sabre, why is the turn rate so much worse...
I feel like this plane was designed in a wind tunnel full of custard.
Hi OddbawZ!!
I feel like this plane was developed by the same guys who made diablo immortal
@@arturorodriguez2588 what do you think of diablo immortal? Im interestest
nah man it was obviously pudding
@@lennartschweigen2141 Blatant cashgrab, and it isn't even funny
The last time I played the F-86K, I finished each match with extreme mental pain from flying this brick.
It has to be better than the F100... right?
@@HRCSJSUAMMAS the F100 at least has AOA, rate fighters are cool but when you need to kill people quickly at the start of the match you'd better pull hard without changing your trajectory too much. This is why Mirages and Jaguars are so good at the starts but become practically useless for carrying due to poor speed retention, and in the very opposite side, why the MiG19 sucks so badly at the start of the match but can 1v10 only person standing and win the match by doing 3v1s
This plane was absolute pain when grinding the Germans. The constant 10 BR lobbies with it and the fact that the F86K is worse in almost every aspect compared to its competitors at around 9 BR is crazy.
@@TrixoPLAYS it's like AOA limiter = bad at start of the game but good for late game and high AOA = good at the start bad for carries and then you have the MiG19 that days screw you I got everything... Other than the appallingly slow shells that go 700m/s the plane is just mind numbing, it's ridiculous it used to share BR with the Sabre dog
I was told it was good which did not help
He is rollin', he is lǒǒǒpin', but most importantly he is DOGGIN'
madlad
Sounds like löpa which means to be ready for procreation in animals like dogs in swedish, this makes for a funny interpretation hahahaha. Or löpa as in run.
@@richman2601 Tumastaa toimen
And he's GAY ning
A professional rawdogger I see.
Rawdogger 1-3 reporting for duty
8:04 he was so desperate to force an overshoot that he pulled his gear out. good god.
Probably trying to press “H” but hit “G” instead
bro acting like he got those F4U landing gear
How are you so good at the game. Don't bother denying it. I greatly admire your game knowledge and technical skill
As do I. I wish my aim wasn't so ass.
Defyn is amazing, i've learned so much from his videos.
he just commits some small mistakes he can quickly prevent from snowballing, and since he seeks perfection for himself he finds like he's not delivering as much as he wants. But the fun part is, that he's not gonna laugh at you if you perform badly, unlike most great players with boasting ego... or other players that are absolutely dogshit and call you bad out of pure envy because you managed to out play their MiG23MLD on your F104A in a short distance gunfight.
its because he ate his vegetables
If you play any game for 3000+ hours over the course of 10 years, you too could be a depressed youtuber
Welcome grandma!!
Yea I really lost it didn't I?
the first dogfight was beautiful. Seeing you go from him being 500 metres behind you and spraying you down to a victory with just a few errors from him and clever steps from you.
Tbh he prolly could've just won an easy rate fight once he split the MiG from the pack.
he was lucky with the opponent, apparently there is a very weak player. If the mig 17 had a player with at least 1-1.5 K/D on the mig-17, I guarantee you that even DEFYN would not have succeeded, because the F-86K is an absolutely terrible dogfight aircraft
Do this more please love watching your vids everyday
No
@@mmmn8979 🐒
Lil Bro is really the definition of
It’s the pilot and not the plane
F2 Sabre in first match wanted to bleed so much speed he dropped his landing gear
the one dislike was that guy tryna avoid his consequences.
youtube doesnt even show them anymore....
You should totally play the Sa'ar. It's slower than an A-10 after 2-3 turns, accelerates slower than early props and has the funny shafrir-2 missiles (and ccip for bombs)
Hi Grandma :) thank you for joining us watching this madman make bad planes look good
2:00 yooo, chill out
8:17 Love the amount of information you gave for the engamemt with the A4E! Thanks alot for that!
defyn actually studied aeronautical engineering in order to understand the physics in war thunder and know how to move
Your enemies just didn't know how bad the F-86K's maneuverability really was. If they had flown on this plane at least once, they would have realized that it can be twisted even on Canberra, you just don't need to make stupid mistakes.
I can’t keep up with so much quality content. At least I will have something to watch through the quiet times. Thank you
you can make every plane look very good
15:07 i loved this
I love it when he just starts talking on the enemys entire bloodline "his mom his dad his grandma"
Never heard this plane being bad until recent compression in the last year . Still a very goopd f86 w afterburner and better guns =
Why did I not know this has an afterburner?
Guess I’m adding this one to the list.
I wanted to dogfight this vs the Lim-5P in our next 1v1
@@pek-g8m lim 5 clears
Well you completely stomped the bet so I guess it's fair to sub the family tree, it's gonna be less awkward than asking only my gran to sub for sure, but lost bets apart, happy I made it into one of my favourites TH-camrs video, just not in the way I had in mind...
I adored the F86K but it ripped so easily. I rarely got kills with it but it is an awesome plane. I'd occasionally get aces with it but I *ALWAYS* got stomped.
hey defyn, awesome video; would love to see you revisit the Re.2005 as it's one of my all time favorite planes and is incredibly fun to fly despite the constant 6.0 uptiers
F86K, certified looper
Shout out that dudes grandma the newest sub!
One of my favorite vids. A jet I have 0 interest in and D just smashes in it. Great flying!
A jet powered FW190.
...
Impressive, now lets see the A29B performance >:)
Hey DEFYN, big ❤ for all the recent uploads, you are saving my whole week with this!
I always watch your videos after work to just chill out (and see how one could get kills in wt if hes blessed with skill xD)
Just wanted to say dont overwork yourself with all the uploads, im more than good with one or two vids a week. Most of your fans propably agree too :) I just want to have you around, if best for always here on youtube, saving my shitty weeks, and of course improving my bad piloting skills xD
Much love from germany
Thats some high class flying here, keep it up :) \o
Oh I need this video, this plane is extremely hard in piloting...
6:54 Not quite sure about that part tho. It was true when the m24 cannon first came into to the game, it was a copy-pasted t-160. But lately gaijin noticed the mistake and fixed both the fire rate and muzzle velocity of the gun. Not sure if they changed the belt or not, but someone does mention it feels like firing t-160 rounds(damage wise) with AN/M3.(Well it should be, since m24 was actually the Air Force-version AN/M3)
The muzzle velocity is where I’m not sure because I know the numbers on stat cards are not always trustworthy. For instance, the stat card muzzle velocity of HE rounds in Mk103 cannon is the same low velocity as Mk108 rounds, which you can clearly tell it’s not the same.(Correct me if gaijin did fix this since I haven’t touched anything with Mk103 for quite some time) Maybe the same shit happens here, but I also can’t tell since I haven’t touched anything with m24 cannons for a long time either.
Hey Defyn Since it has happened for the second time now, I would like to correct a mistake here.
The unit for energy is Joule and not Newton, Newton is used for thrust.
In addition, it offers itself for larger numbers to work with a Si prefix such as 350 000 joules 350 kilo joules.
its a joke
it's meant to make no sense
" Newton is used for thrust." - Newton is used for *force*, not for thrust. Thrust is a force, so N is indeed the appropriate unit, but but with how you worded it it's incorrect, because its also used for a wide array of other kinds of force.
@@DEFYN yo you polish ? Like your smoke trail is the flag so im kinda curios lol
@@DEFYN doof would you dool me if I pay you 50 bucks? (pls no recording I succ)
@@_YellovvJacket_ 🤓
You know its gonna be a good time when he busts out the Yoshi's Island music.
10:51 what a10? :"P
Love your content mate keep it up❗️❗️🤩🤩
I love your work keep it up!
DAMN YEAH I waited this video to have some things to know about this plane cause I don't what I should choose to grind the Rank VI and VII
This reminds me of my beloved j29f but slightly different with same armament
A Hunter F.1 vid would be cool, considering it's another jet that doesn't turn that well
TH-camrs who post daily are absolute sigmas
Heres a suggestion, try out the MiG-21F-13 and see how hard it is to play, 60 rounds of ammo, and 2 R-3Ss at 9.3 and you usually see uptiers.
very hard to fly.
gunpog gary and magdumb mary be at it again
at the end of 11.3 matches i just get my whole team to bum rush the opposing af and we can usually get the last person camping there. the sams usually dont shoot at more than one or maybe two people at a time
Defyn could u try playing the k4 and ta 152 H again? It would be really helpful to see how u would counter being completely outnumbered by competent allied pilots with the current ju288c spam. If u actually manage an ace I’ll sub to ur patreon no questions asked
K4 next week :)
@@DEFYN based
Anyone with a glimmer of skill can get an ace with a K-4.
Ok but who asked
He did asked, I mean K-4 can be outcompeted by a lot of vehicles but it's definitely not a challenge for you to get an ace as well as many players.
"family tree" ? Defyn...any advice on how to unlock GF in the 'family tree'?
Touch grass
Easy. Pay to win as always!
GOD I MISSED THE YOSHI'S THEME
Damn the only time I see this thing in my mig 17 they are circiling the airfield or running straight for it after I dodged their headon ...
@DEFYN is the new YUNG GRAVY.
I have got an Ace in it and still can't believe it
Ahhh youre from the netherlands!! Cool
best intro tho
Hunter o f86k, cuál es mejor?
Heheh… Raw Dogging :)
Yeah Mr. Defyn, Im really loving this videos streak. But it remains that same old question: YAK 3(VK107) WHEN?
War Thunder players: Booping the Snoot wif the Sabre Doggo
DEFYN: Rawdogging with Sabre dog.
You can see the differential on Soy and Testosterone.
Can you explain the patreon tiers? I've never bought one ever
8:07 hmm... did he panic gear extend or is he a 5 head?
New upload today? Couldnt have asked for anything better
so, in Germany tech tree, do you think f86k is
Better for grinding other aircrafts or mig19s?
I know I'm late but the mig19 is absolutely better even without missiles.
Faster and with better manouvrability
I-16 type 27 next? No? Ah well...
DEFYN, have you ever made a video on the Spitfire Mk XIVe?
aint no way my brother in christ
Could you make a video of the Su-6 M-71F or TIS MA? (Or IL-2 1941?)
That dude at the beginning lol when he realised. Also does anyone have any tips for early US jets? I've been getting 1-2 kills each game and cannot do much.
If you’re flying the F-80A, all you can really do is pray that your team isn’t 75% F-84s and that the good planes you do have on your team have competent pilots. If you’re flying the F-84, all I can really say is… why?
@@sillylittleowlguy2392 Thanks man. I'm not stupid enough to fly the F-84 but 90 percent of my games are full of them. I can get more kills like 3-4 now but it is such a pain. By the time ive done anything my team is all dead
Hate it with a passion in both the German and French tree. But I’ll at least try again I guess.
I have the italian one and yea its an ok plane, when it was at 9.3 it was just bad, now its usable
I've faced them a lot on the MiG19 and even though they're quite climby they're still too slow and the MiG19 even out dogfights them at nearly most speeds below 1050 kmh so I just spare them too alongside the rest of subsonic aircraft I might meet.
interaction with the community is a1
Old music from old times
Armored target belts? Any particular reason for it cause I use air and it's usually an almost fatal crit
As someone who mainly uses Armoured belts over air I feel it is much more consistent damage wise especially when flying planes such as the F2 Sabre or using planes with M3 .50's. War Thunder has their damage models for planes done in a way where HE has a change to spark as opposed to AP. This was at least true in older versions of the game but a lot of older players such as myself still opt for armoured because of the aforementioned problems.
Buen video
Is the F 4C phantom still good cuz at its br there so many premium
there's some other 9.0 turds that might be fun to fly :)
kekw. also nice intro!
that first mig 17 was thrash lol
My Oma's dead :( but I'll sub lol.
can you make a video on what top tier is like a few months after the f-14 drop?
Still the same f14 vs f14 teams
That video will most likely naturally happen as in a "few months" the next update drops, probably with another toptier plane to review.
huh, for some reason i had an ok time in the sabre dog. i guess lucky me
still thanks for making the video!
Can you fly the Ki-61 I hien ?
How does the F86 K do against 1st gen Supersonics
Not completely terrible. You just have to keep your speed up and make efficient lines for yourself to intercept them. Basically look for fur balls and be opportunistic
Oh this sounds a lot like the F-84F
Except that’s even worse
Can you play the F6F-5(the regular one, not the 5N)?
What happend if F86K have aim9E or aim9D?
Am I tripping or was that like, 4 minutes of outro music just really quiet in the background?
Will the Ki83 come out of your hangar ? 🥺👉👈😅
I225 hardcore
The J5N1 is much better.
quick question; why armored target belts?
As someone who mainly uses Armoured belts over air I feel it is much more consistent damage wise especially when flying planes such as the F2 Sabre or using planes with M3 .50's. War Thunder has their damage models for planes done in a way where HE has a change to spark as opposed to AP. This was at least true in older versions of the game but a lot of older players such as myself still opt for armoured because of the aforementioned problems.
@@mackeral5152 interesting. So I should use armored belts on m3 50’s?
@@howitzer2839 I find it is usually personal preference, however in my experience, I have found running armoured belts on the M3's result in more critical damage or just an out right kill. I have also tried this with a few other friends and they were able to instantly notice a difference in the damage.
@@mackeral5152 bet thx
Tried it, still hate it. Burned through all the free repairs on the German one before even getting compressor, you just can never get the guns on and even when you do they do nothing.
The “speed” from the afterburner doesn’t help you and you’re slower than an A5 Sabre without it. The missiles are rank 4 and I’ve barely broken into rank 2 even from ground pounding, the belts just don’t do enough. 2/10 still better than the F84F stock grind
can you record with keyboard and mouse?
I wanna see how you be nice
nice
How many people would I need to get to subscribe to get you to play my favorite jet the F-100D?
is it the same as the german version?
Would love to see a vid on the spit mk 22, i feel like it has just been abandoned by the community as a whole and tbf its justified, but i still find it very enjoyable in downtiers and somwhat capable for a prop against jets considering early jet player IQs
the worst spitfire is the best prop in the game according to Spit Flyer
Misleading spit flyer content, as usual.
With the 6.0 black hole I'm not sure if it gets many downtiers or not.
@@reinbeers5322 when it was 6.3 it got many downtiers like the P51H and F8F but it was unpopular and got it's shit clubbed by yak9Ps Ta152Hs and I225s and basically every American prop except F7F.
@@kingghidorah8106 You've just reminded me of the bullshit that the P-51H at 6.3 is. That thing does not belong there.
@@reinbeers5322 it's more 7.0 than the Mk24 itself, my god even an La-7 is faster than it and the yak3u is a better energy and rate fighter that can even one circle the mk24 plus the stubby griffons (mk22/24) have awful over roll and the instructor loves to input rudder too much. I've crashed more times into the ground with the mk24 than with the I225 and this latter one has abhorrent compression past 450 IAS.
Everybody I speak to trashes on the G.91 R/3. I love the thing. I know you can do it justice, so please, show them the way of the ADENs 😉
Very nice flying but you had matches with roughly equal BR. Try this plane undertiered facing mig 21s, mig 19, etc and maybe these tactics wont apply... Great performance though and perfect aiming!
Those poor A4Es you better play it so you can show us that it’s not that bad
A4s had one thing going for them.. i.e. the air spawn (and resultant early game potential) and now that's no longer the case.
Defyn has already done a couple of videos on A4B, A4Es and other A4s. (Just in case you were not aware.)
I don't understand how a plane with leading edge wing slats can turn this bad. It's not much different from the og sabre, why is the turn rate so much worse...