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  • @DEFYN
    @DEFYN  2 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    Forgot to mention:
    th-cam.com/video/QU-EVW1K7-E/w-d-xo.html
    That's more of a carry example in the MiG-19 so check that out if you're interested. Everything said there still applies

    • @gazzol9787
      @gazzol9787 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea i like to call the enemy pussy too when they camp the AAA

    • @johnathancooper3897
      @johnathancooper3897 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Your rant at the end probably deserves a video of its own, you make some excellent compelling points.

    • @pienter593
      @pienter593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hi Defyn. There might be a little chance that I have a solution for the airfield AA problem.
      As someone who's played a lot of Germany 5.7 Air RB I know all too well that bombers contribute generally very little to winning the match. The reason for this is that they're basically playing their own game. Bomb bases, RTB and repeat. This is their way of trying to win the match (not that in practice a win is actually achieved that way, generally speaking). Fighters however, generally try to win the match by taking down all the enemy fighters and eventually all the attackers and bombers.
      The 2 are not intertwined at all and they do not complement each other, which is bad for gameplay.
      I would like to propose a solution to this as well as to the Airfield AA problem. It is as follows:
      Instead of making bombers bomb bases, let them bomb the airfield and make it that in doing so they disable AA for a limited amount of time. (And, if needed, make it so that the AA also has a short timeframe of invulnerability roughly halfway through the match.) This way the bombers actually support the fighter effort. This also means that fighters who play cowardly only have limited access to a safe airfield, and that players have to time their return to the base. Players could also anticipate on this, which will make gameplay probably more dynamic. Perhaps players even need to defend the airfield at times in order for their teammates to take off. This stimulates team effort and communication. This solution also means that fighters have a motive to escort bombers.
      It's just a quick draft, there probably are some flaws and it will need nuance for different tiers.

    • @pienter593
      @pienter593 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnathancooper3897 agreed

    • @thecoolmagnet3785
      @thecoolmagnet3785 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what fuel load is optimal with this aircraft ?

  • @jschuh0509
    @jschuh0509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +452

    the best week of this year has been the one where defyn decided to go hard into youtube. i have been playing everyday that i see one of his vids. at this point, they should just let defyn redesign all the tutorials in game, or link to his videos. no other youtuber breaks it down like he does. also, as an english teacher in brazil, his english is top grade, its not easy to get that good at a second language.
    keep flying high bud

    • @DEFYN
      @DEFYN  2 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      Quite the praise, thanks :)

    • @Metrallaroja
      @Metrallaroja 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Just let him change ARB maps and AAA lmfao

    • @paulbrown3302
      @paulbrown3302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Everything you said is true, breakdown of munitions etc has helped me so much in war thunder understanding my opponents and how to eliminate them better than any war thunder tutorial

    • @javispiq01
      @javispiq01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What the hell, I thought he was English. Now I can make sense of the “lack” of accent

    • @andrelin4345
      @andrelin4345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s not a native speaker??

  • @ATBatmanMALS31
    @ATBatmanMALS31 2 ปีที่แล้ว +575

    Judging by the comments, this thing should be facing props lol

    • @kirby1601
      @kirby1601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      In my genuine opinion,the Mig-19 are a “skill check”

    • @sheeesssh646
      @sheeesssh646 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kirby1601 Good way to put it

    • @mAnDaL__
      @mAnDaL__ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Would be harder tbh

    • @PuineaGip
      @PuineaGip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kirby1601 no its bad

    • @dti1312
      @dti1312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@PuineaGip It's a great fighter, but it faces missiles that are completely impossible to dodge at short range like the R-60.

  • @herz2956
    @herz2956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    "its as shrimple as that"

    • @cooq69
      @cooq69 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      so shrimple

  • @SeekerHead
    @SeekerHead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +291

    18:27 Most mentally stable WT player

    • @TheRealHalolad
      @TheRealHalolad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yo i see you in comments all the time man, you must love war thunder content

    • @SeekerHead
      @SeekerHead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@TheRealHalolad nope, i just watch defyn and jetnoob

    • @YF23BlackWidowll
      @YF23BlackWidowll ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SeekerHead lol

  • @dakotahondalock5621
    @dakotahondalock5621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    If it’s any consolation you’ve taught me so much from watching your videos that I’ve never once thought that I should use the airfields as a weapon, your channel taught me how to play air rb, but most of all I love your videos for you and the great content you provide, I learn something new almost every video, thank you Defyn

    • @matythebunny
      @matythebunny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Defyn is one of the (if not the) best at explaining how to play air rb

    • @dakotahondalock5621
      @dakotahondalock5621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My favorite part is that his explanation of a plane isn’t based on his opinion but rather he explains the plane and forms his opinion off of that explanation

  • @pkt0827
    @pkt0827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +374

    defyn going from an average commentary to a mental breakdown in a single video.
    brother I hope the AAA bullshit doesn't take a toll on you too hard :) (still thanks for the daily upload, they're all fun to watch & it teaches you a thing or 2 at the very least)

    • @southweststrangla9591
      @southweststrangla9591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Tbh i'm kinda surprised he didn't quit yet, i did like most good players over years. People are coimng up with alot of ideas of how to fix this issue for like 6 or 7 years by now, and all they do is buff them even more every once in a while. It's legit same shit since like 2015-16, people are abusing shit out of it, you literally cannot have single match without someone camping airfield.
      Most maps with most planes you can't even bleed tickets because you don't have good enough guns nor enough rockets/bombs to destroy pillboxes and medium/heavy tanks in time

    • @TheByQQ
      @TheByQQ ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@southweststrangla9591 fun fact: your team also has an airfield. It the long straight strip where you can land and rearm

    • @ChannelMiner
      @ChannelMiner ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheByQQ that does not address his point at all

    • @TheByQQ
      @TheByQQ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChannelMiner and his point isn't an issue, so we're even.

    • @ChannelMiner
      @ChannelMiner ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheByQQ It 100% is an issue, some games you kill the entire enemy team then one guy is just flying in circles in his airfield.
      The game could be over already, but instead what happens? Instead is that the game goes for an extra 15 minutes while the winning team are forced to ground pound when they already won and the game could be over already.
      Do you think it's ok for people to draw out games they have already lost? They are just wasting everyone's time.

  • @smigoltime
    @smigoltime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    13:00 I love how you transfer from commentary, to pissed to malding XDDDD

    • @thatguy7990
      @thatguy7990 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's not malding it's stating fax

    • @p_filippouz
      @p_filippouz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@thatguy7990 nah it's malding.
      The a32 could do nothing. Even if he was to reverse him, a mig19 would easily pull itself out of it.
      The only thing you can do if there's something like 3 people following you and they're in better planes than you, is going to the airfield hoping they greedy enough to get killed by AA

    • @Josanfrr
      @Josanfrr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@p_filippouz​​⁠​⁠did you not watch the video? its not his problem the a32’s entire team died. he chose to play a shit plane and he died because of that

    • @p_filippouz
      @p_filippouz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Josanfrr ah yes, surely, the destiny of the entire match relied on this single a32, and it's ENTIRELY his fault his team died.
      Oh please.

    • @TeenWithACarrotIDK
      @TeenWithACarrotIDK 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@p_filippouz I think in reality, he isn’t really talking about that guy but about the AA and how they effect player mentality.
      The way I view it, airbase as unnaturally prolong matches that should have ended ages ago and makes the game boring as all hell and serves only to annoy, and the mid-map AA only serve to be random threats that have a random chance at randomly hitting you at the most inconvenient of times. It’s the reality of how AA affects the game sometimes and we have to just accept it.
      However, by itself, this rant is half completely understandable and yeah half malding. I think him and many other people are half way to the right solution but they aren’t quite there yet. The only way I see this problem being fixed is if the air modes get completely and utterly revamped and changed. The mode just isn’t designed well enough to adjust to how modern war thunder is and it’s also boring and lame as hell and overall is just badly designed.

  • @moriartyholmes8172
    @moriartyholmes8172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Such a fun plane. Shame it has to deal with such a missile heavy br with no counter measures

    • @Ali80076
      @Ali80076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      there has to be a transition BR between missile and countermeasure carrying planes and planes that have tradeoffs in mobility/missiles/countermeasures.
      like the AV8 has decent missiles and counter measures, but its subsonic and as agile as a brick, on the other hand you have mig 19 and j35A with good performance and agility but bad/no missiles and no countermeasures. I see 9.7 as a tradeoff BR, and we have to have one somewhere in the tech tree.

    • @mites7
      @mites7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If it had flares it would be super fun

    • @railgun1
      @railgun1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You see Defyn dodge all these missiles all game long and you still think you really need them? Smh.

    • @lunarcultist6214
      @lunarcultist6214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@railgun1 Most of the time those were 10-15G missiles that are easy to evade, but if you get uptiered, an AIM-9J/P is not nearly as easy to avoid, let alone an R-60

    • @Akhaaelikian
      @Akhaaelikian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just fly the chinese Q5A, Basically the same plane but 9.0 with flares and RWR.

  • @gtifighter
    @gtifighter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    THANK YOU! Thanks for bringing up the out of place AA in Air RB and the constant abuse of it by most players. It's really fucking annoying and probably one of the main reasons why I just quit playing RB and went back to Air Arcade because there, at least you get respawns and tiny maps with quick arcady action. In the last Air RB game I played, I was in the F-5C, I killed 2 enemy planes and was running low on ammo and fuel being the last player of my team left alive (one idiot teammate rammed my friend in the beginning of the game) with no enemies anywhere near me so I went to refuel my plane, take off and fly to the center of the map. None of the other 2 enemy players were in the center. Where were they you might ask? both camping at their airfield. flying low altitude circles around the airfield because they knew I would be suicidal to fly in that. So I turned around to get back to the center of the map, the second I turned around they spammed 6 missiles at me and I died. Top tier gameplay with no possibility of counterplay is what's killing the game and I'm sick and tired of it.
    I fucking hate these no-skill cheesy playstyles that are even rewarded by War Thunder...
    It's just like when 2 years ago I was flying the XP-50 in Air RB and the last remaining enemy plane was a bomber with 10 minutes of the game remaining and flying at like 10-11km altitude and I was unable to get even close to 2km below him within that time so he just won, doing nothing but flying away all game and pressing the spacebar a couple times. It just drives me fucking mad.

    • @paulbrown3302
      @paulbrown3302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For real arcade is the only fun air mode, it’s not fun to fly for minutes after having to take off and then just have people all the way at their base all game or just waiting up at 20km and dive with pulse Doppler missiles

    • @rxzxqx6982
      @rxzxqx6982 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      arcade is fun, but not with the top tier imo

    • @adrianstachowski9422
      @adrianstachowski9422 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rxzxqx6982 sim is good too, but last time I've scored 6 kills and 6 deaths with some time at cap zone, I've lost 100k sl with active premium...

    • @danko8983
      @danko8983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adrianstachowski9422 i played sim and did like 23 kills with 5 deaths with a 183k SL profit

    • @nnn4376
      @nnn4376 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Feel like the ideal solution is to just remove missiles.

  • @jacobdonnely2608
    @jacobdonnely2608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    It seems like they generally buffed AA as well because a decent portion of the time when I'm above AA in the middle of the map even like 3km up I'll get tagged by it, it makes maps with loads of AA in the center extremely annoying. It used to be unless you were outside of airfield you could generally ignore AA, but I've died to the ground AA trucks a couple times recently. It really feels like they got an accuracy buff for whatever reason.

    • @leonerd91
      @leonerd91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I feel you, got set on fire at 3km alt when playing at 2.3, i dont think AAA should be that good especially on low tier maps when many players dont really climb to alt

  • @Hadgerz
    @Hadgerz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    forward base aaa needs to be maybe a couple flak guns and that's it...instead, you get hitscan'd immediately the second you stray within 6km ... and dont even start with the midfield aaa in mozdok, or that small winter map - the one with two opposing trenches of machineguns in the middle. hitscan all fluids empty with red wings and pilot within 5 seconds of hearing those first shells blasting by. Can't get away from it because you're in a prop. That is still somehow a thing to this day.

    • @CrackzTV
      @CrackzTV ปีที่แล้ว

      lmao it was horrid cancer but the only upside to the mid map buff was all the dope environmental fights that get set up by not being in hitscan range. That shit made me put mountains in front of me and the AAA

  • @_Joob
    @_Joob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Mig19’s are probably the most fun you can have in that hell of a BR range (9.3-10.3) except maybe short of the Ariete IMO. One of the best aircraft for clutch situations as well. I find myself playing the mig19s quite a bit.

    • @m1ndfr34k3
      @m1ndfr34k3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oh hey its joob, nice

  • @smigoltime
    @smigoltime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    the ending XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
    this has to be one of your most meaningfull videos defy

    • @ushikiii
      @ushikiii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed.

  • @mockingbird0901
    @mockingbird0901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You seems angrier than usual. Need a break from the game?

    • @DEFYN
      @DEFYN  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      brother I just got back

    • @mockingbird0901
      @mockingbird0901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DEFYN might need a longer break then xD

  • @richardn7
    @richardn7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Was 1v1 a guy, we were the last people in the game, I was in a Ki-84 ko and he was in an F2G. We had similar energy, he head-on me and then went back to his airfield even though we were in the middle of the map. As I slowly chased him, an AA in the middle of the map set me on fire in 1 hit and I lost the game. Great stuff

    • @unfazedmc5734
      @unfazedmc5734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Gaijin skill issued you

    • @HandlesAreDumb420
      @HandlesAreDumb420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you bought more GE, you wouldn't have died. Bozo moment.

    • @richardn7
      @richardn7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HandlesAreDumb420 I laughed thank you

  • @asadchatha4184
    @asadchatha4184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This video is incredibly useful, was having trouble grinding the russian tree because of the A10 spam. Much appreciated DEFYN!

  • @Swat_Dennis
    @Swat_Dennis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The thing about airfield campers?
    Look, right? If I know the team is going to die out in like a minute, I don't feel like paying that fucking repaircost if it takes me 20 seconds to go to the airfield, but at least I have the balls to J out and just go onto the next match
    People who stay are fucking annoying, people who do it "because AAA" are fucking sad. I just want to get out of the match too if I go to the airfield

    • @imainhunter
      @imainhunter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, sometimes people want to end the match quick and ask you to leave

    • @pizza_parker9689
      @pizza_parker9689 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i agree with this thought process

  • @Et-chan
    @Et-chan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    The mig 19S was my favourite plane in the game for the longest time. I kept playing it well into the missile meta and it was still fun for awhile but it’s slowly being beaten into an early grave. It’s a shame because it was so enjoyable to dogfight with. Many pilots don’t expect a fighter to be turnfighting at this tier and it catches a lot of people by surprise. I miss this thing being competitive.

    • @TrixoPLAYS
      @TrixoPLAYS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was playing MiG-19S not long ago when grinding the German tree. I have managed to get 2.8k/d 86 kills with 31 deaths to be exact after 63 missions. That is coming from just above average air RB player, I'm nowhere near DEFYN skill but I'm not terrible either so I would say this plane is still very competitive. It just has to be played somewhat right.

    • @Acid_Burn9
      @Acid_Burn9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      MiG-19 was the king all the way until Draken introduction.

    • @Et-chan
      @Et-chan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TrixoPLAYS I'm not saying it's impossible to play or anything, but the style of the plane isn't as enjoyable as it once was. The meta has shifted. And flying the mig 19 feels like a chore rather than a test of skill to me.

    • @gaiofattos2
      @gaiofattos2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TrixoPLAYS I was in the F-104 and I was energy trapped by a mig-19s. It's a little UFO.

    • @jarebare510
      @jarebare510 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm doing great even with the MiG 19 in this meta, even 30 g missiles can be dodged from the right aspect so while it may be harder, its engines can still carry it.

  • @nonsense19
    @nonsense19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I agree with the AF camping but not the landing comment. AF AA should be death sentence to an enemy player if someone is on the ground no if ands or buts. Landing isn’t always the guy who can’t manage his ammo or fuel it’s more often the guys carrying the game that HAVE to land because they have used their resources to kill 5 planes. It isn’t fair to these guys that carry their team that a random ass player that got lucky with the AA get an easy kill on the ace player. That isn’t about getting out played that is getting killed by the luck of a glue sniffer

    • @DEFYN
      @DEFYN  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I mean't it more in the sense that you shouldn't be able to be going to go land with guys on your ass.
      Sure if you're on the ground the AA can be strong. The game ends in 90 seconds after you touch down anyways.

  • @HighjeX_
    @HighjeX_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The AA on this game is a shame

  • @skibidabndada6683
    @skibidabndada6683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    17:51 "landing is a privilege not a right" is my fav sentence from the vid, got me thinking about the hole thing, great video as always mr defyn#

  • @jjbogan3791
    @jjbogan3791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I have to say I completly agree with the airfield strafing and i tend to do it alot without myself being strafed at all i rarely get strafed, if i have atleast ammo and abit of fuel when there's one person left I'd head over to the airfield and likely they'd be there

    • @imperiodosgameplays321
      @imperiodosgameplays321 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love to do airfield stafing with the Mig 19 lol, people don't expect me to do it

  • @jaek__
    @jaek__ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Dude, just, thank you.
    Hearing you be visibly upset about Airfield Andys running to their bubble of immortality, literally, every, single, match, was so fucking cathartic.
    It's CHRONIC and insane just how badly this mentality has stuck around, it creates a feedback loop of bad players or average players never getting good and complaining that they can't get good because good players stomp them even though they actively and subconsciously cuck themselves with their terrible in game habits that make me audibly groan every time I see it.
    No matter the plane, no matter the situation, every time they feel the fight they took has soured they just, run away, I can't stand it man, it prolongs and ruins every game, thinking about it makes me physically angry.
    Anyways, thanks Daddy Defyn, hopefully this stupid mechanic gets changed or fixed or something, I don't know.

  • @kensharman508
    @kensharman508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Few people are as good as you, and once you have cleaned out the enemy team, what is the point for the last player of just becoming another trophy for you? THAT is why the last player is heading back to base. Other players do not owe you another kill. I love your videos, they are very informative, but this is one thing where I disagree with you.

  • @mattmielke1389
    @mattmielke1389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I feel like the "bad player doesn't know how to defend himself except with base aa" argument is a good segue into the defensive flying guide

  • @GMan33195
    @GMan33195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Preach about the AF AA brother. Its a cancer on Air RB

  • @finn_mcmissile
    @finn_mcmissile 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The Harsh Truth of MiG19: it is not good anymore vs 9.7+. From the atrocious flight model with no rudder and slow full imput value of the controls, to the brutally shittified NR30 belts with average 740m/s velocity with instant drag.

    • @turbonut1
      @turbonut1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agree so much king. Especially since you get outran by everything and you have terrible energy retention with no flares.

    • @kwazzy5859
      @kwazzy5859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@turbonut1 lmao what? Bad energy retention? Are u on crack?

    • @turbonut1
      @turbonut1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Plane blows don’t @ me defyn sucks trash player 🥱

  • @threemountainsgaming7560
    @threemountainsgaming7560 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "energy god" is a very fitting name to this plane :)

  • @VenomVsTRex
    @VenomVsTRex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I might be wrong, but I honestly think airfield camping would be significantly lessened if repair costs would be either removed or just reduced to a point where players are not punished by the game for a bad match or a streak of bad matches. People's play style is greatly impacted by the fear of repair costs following poor performance.
    If the only cost of playing poorly, trying to learn was the time invested in a match there would be much more incentive to keep trying, to put up an actual fight instead running away to the airfield with your tail between your legs.
    Players kissing the ground to deny a kill is pure scrub bullshit though.

    • @_ZenX_
      @_ZenX_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You will see people camp their base in planes that cost next to nothing to repair, you will see it at lower tiers and you will see it at top tier.
      It’s not the repair cost, it’s the instinctive “I am in trouble so I have to run” mechanism kicking in because these players did not start playing the game without camping their airfields, so now, this is all they know how to do.

    • @CRL_One
      @CRL_One 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If its about SL, you can land, repair, refuel and J out.

  • @XpunisherX8152
    @XpunisherX8152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    If this had countermeasures then it would be untouchable

    • @davidboy45
      @davidboy45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A-5C

    • @H-cranky
      @H-cranky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@davidboy45 imo A-5C is fucking ugly. Same for the Q-5 and J-6

    • @152mmapfsds
      @152mmapfsds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@H-cranky how dare you

    • @-theislander-5888
      @-theislander-5888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@davidboy45 A5C does not have much in common with the mig 19 flight model wise.
      you are misinformed i think.

    • @thatguy7990
      @thatguy7990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@davidboy45 a5c is a cheap Chinese ripoff of the mig19 they cannot be compared
      In a dogfight the a5c gets stomped

  • @kingghidorah8106
    @kingghidorah8106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    getting teamkilled by second row missile is pretty common among A5C players... Zhōng Xìna moment

  • @miked815
    @miked815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That was an absolutely epic rant, I was actually laughing out loud!

  • @JoshuaBFishing
    @JoshuaBFishing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Obviously you weren't flying the Mig19 because you didn't eat 6 missiles in the first 30 seconds of your initial engagement.

  • @pek-g8m
    @pek-g8m 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Q-5A is basically a MiG-19 at 9.0, super fun.

    • @lixlivlxxxiv714
      @lixlivlxxxiv714 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Q-5A also has the second earliest flares after the A-4E. Very interesting plane, but it's probably stiff like the A-5C.

  • @Madtrack
    @Madtrack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How is DEFYN this good but also a good teacher. He actually tells you why he's doing something

  • @GeorgieSVK
    @GeorgieSVK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love you so much. Agreed on everything that was said in the last parts of the video. So done with AAA

  • @Registered_Simp
    @Registered_Simp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you for covering this plane. So many times I try to tell people it is a monster that requires skill and they don't believe me. Then they're surprised when I'm dancing around 3 people without breaking a sweat. Hopefully it gets some more respect

    • @sheeesssh646
      @sheeesssh646 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, every week there's a Reddit post on how the Mig 19 is overtiered and has to face missiles...

    • @Registered_Simp
      @Registered_Simp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sheeesssh646 Funny enough, it's one of few aircraft where I'm not very scared of Magics and R-60's. If I'm at combat speeds, those things just don't have the agility to hit me.

    • @sheeesssh646
      @sheeesssh646 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Registered_Simp Kinda depends on the altitude tbh

    • @Registered_Simp
      @Registered_Simp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sheeesssh646 Well yeah, go high enough and an Aim-9B is impossible to out-maneuver. That's why these two magical attributes called situational awareness and positioning are so important when you are up high

    • @o3941
      @o3941 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The MiG-19 really is a god tier plane. It will punish lesser skilled pilots, but a good pilot will absolutely excell in this thing.

  • @sonwig5186
    @sonwig5186 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's all good complaining about people running back to the airfield when you have infinite silver lions. Most people would rather save the repair cost rather than die in an already lost game to 5 enemy fighters which is just not fun for either side anyway.

  • @AJ-happydad
    @AJ-happydad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I gave up this game after the f14 came out. As a USA main I couldn't deal with the mixed battles anymore. Coming from beta to this has been a journey. Your channel still makes me want to come back. I just can't tho

    • @Mai-ek8rf
      @Mai-ek8rf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everyones just excited to jet their first 4th gen fighter once the other nations gets theirs it'll all go back to normal

  • @sully1939
    @sully1939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everyone just runs back to the airfield is getting ridiculous now XD

  • @2serveand2protect
    @2serveand2protect 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeah - few more russki planes more downed in Ukraine, and all of a sudden THESE might pop out, too! ...pppffLOL! :D...

  • @lixlivlxxxiv714
    @lixlivlxxxiv714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You do have to take a bad plane when you are playing Sweden tho. It's not this guy's problem either that Gaijin decided Tier VI Sweden should be trash.

  • @TomPrickVixen
    @TomPrickVixen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still say that these last pure dogfighters are over BR-ed! And when it comes the MiG-19S; I'd trade that 3rd gun for more ammo anytime, or even for a radar!

  • @britishcats1
    @britishcats1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    AF is so inconsistent, had a match on cliffs of diver in my f89B. Team runs in and all die instantly, turns in to a 9v1. One crashes and I kill 5 of them. But run out of ammo, fly around waiting for a good time to land but the three I was yet to kill all rearmed and refuel while I killed their friends so they all have fuel over me. I am forced to land and a MD450b comes in at like 200~250MPH and base AA doesn’t shoot till after he kill me and flew half way down the runway. Next match get criti early in and have to land, base AA kill two bombers and a random ho299 that was just fly around 4 miles away. It really makes it so more annoying then it already is. When you need it to protect you in bad spot it just turns it’s self off, and when it’s not need it starts trying to steal your kill like a member of JG3.

  • @ThunderNiips
    @ThunderNiips 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I’m in the situation where my team dies and I’m the last one, I will usually J out or land then J out, that’s one of the reasons I run back to the airfield, another option is I say who wants a free kill then end the match. I’m probably the only nice guy in this game.

  • @BKBCrAnK
    @BKBCrAnK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don’t get it either why so many people turn around and try to land or let the AA do their job. If I’m the last on alive and need to land, I’m going to and take off again. And if it is the last thing I’m doing I’m at least going for a suicidal head on to take one with me. Screw these little whiny sh!ts that land and leave because they did absolutely nothing all game and find themselfs completely alone. Best idea in their mind, land and leave. Yes that’s how you learn the game and make you SL and XP. If you are going to loose anyway at least try to take someone with you.

    • @pizza_parker9689
      @pizza_parker9689 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i do exactly this. I myself dont have this problem of af runners but im sure its infuriating to someone like defyn who plays alot and expects fights.

    • @eb3yr
      @eb3yr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you land, take off, get a single kill then get mobbed, you still earn more than J'ing out.
      Same if you just kill a couple AI. There's literally *no* point to deny the chance for a fun dogfight. It's infuriating.

    • @SwissCowboy87
      @SwissCowboy87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eb3yr not if you plane cost 20'000 to repair. is better to j out

  • @Villicy
    @Villicy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You are the only link I still have to warthunder.
    In a couple of months it's been 10 years since I started playing. And now the only connection I have with the game is a TH-cam channel I watch every minute of.
    Keep doing what you do!

  • @_lo8241
    @_lo8241 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rico, before you comment, don’t. I’m tired of Players Being a Gorilla being full of your messages, let us have some fresh content for a while

  • @orewakaminoikari
    @orewakaminoikari 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ADA in ARB at SAM BR ranges don't engage you or engage you with any accuracy at 15k ft, and if you dive from directly above, don't shoot at you at all until you're under 10k. Allows you to get 1 airfield pass or take-off strafe on anyone that used it to camp because the SAMS take too long to fire at you once you zoom away unless you're braindead. Yeah, it's not that fun, but it's still an easy workaround for AF campers, and shows they're still not safe.
    MY issue is the fuckers that still J out constantly on the strip when they have another friendly in the air

  • @stanvandenadort4710
    @stanvandenadort4710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dont hate the player, hate the game. Gaijin has complete control over what the meta is and how the game is played. Besides going to airfield being a dick move, it's the best option for these bad players.

    • @PuineaGip
      @PuineaGip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I found an airfielder

    • @stanvandenadort4710
      @stanvandenadort4710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PuineaGip I'm not an airfielder. If you have any common sense at all and look at what i said, you should be able to tell. I'm just saying that it's understandable behavior and it's in gaijin's hands to change it

  • @stash_of_g
    @stash_of_g 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    14:50 Preach it bro, im so sick people running away, also mid mad AAA one shotting my engine .

  • @cryojen3595
    @cryojen3595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    :)

  • @Liniyka
    @Liniyka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How many years has it been since they made the AAA op? I can't even remember. And throughout these years we constantly begged gaijin to nerf it back at least a little bit. What did we get? Missile AAA for top tier, OP AAA even on secondary airfields and these hilarious vulcans in prop matches. At this point gaijin made it pretty clear that they have no intention of listening, which speaks volumes about their priorities.

    • @sealclub13a79
      @sealclub13a79 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The short term money adrenaline rush?

  • @TransportSupremo
    @TransportSupremo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Virgin cringe dogfight wanter vs chad based airfield enjoyer

  • @insertcringe2220
    @insertcringe2220 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Regarding that airfield camping, I commonly have to run, because even if I get three kills, I still loose money if I die. Money, that I can't afford to loose

    • @spasti7026
      @spasti7026 ปีที่แล้ว

      As long as you j out once you are at the airfield everything is fine

    • @spasti7026
      @spasti7026 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But this guy took off from the airfield just to run back to the airfield 5 minutes later and wasting everyone’s time

  • @michaelw6277
    @michaelw6277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seriously though… you have this video where you get kill after kill after kill, where you don’t show yourself dying even once, and you’re ranting about people who have to use every advantage simply to survive an encounter against you. It’s like if I dropped down to running a 2.3 BR prop and complained that all the poor, lesser skilled players in their reserve planes ran to their airfields to stop me from clubbing them.
    Yeah, running to your airfield for cover against someone is somewhat unsporting, but whining about people who are just trying to not get shot down when you’re better than 99.9% of the people who play is a bit much.

  • @Acaios
    @Acaios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    up until the game will punish me for loosing a plane with insane repair costs, I will try to RTB to reset the fight if I feel I'm going to loose it. And if I feel that the match is lost, I will land and J-Out.
    I'm not nearly as good as you are, I can't score more than 2 kills per match as average and I simply don't have time nor the will to spend hours farming SL so I can play a plane that I actually like for a while.
    I'd really like to take more risks, but since the choice is to play safe or not playing at all, I choose the first one.
    After all, if "me being alone vs 4" is not your problem, why the fact that me trying to RTB bothers you should be a problem of mine?

  • @takumifujiwara2951
    @takumifujiwara2951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remember I was a level 25 in a air realistic match and we were winning it was a 3v1 at 3.0 I was pumped because I got 4 kills and this level 100 with 96d exactly put into fighters was running to his air filed complaining about us trying to kill him and how it wasn't fair later I got annoyed and tired to kill him near his air filed I was shot down and my 2 team mates were German bombers this level 100 then killed one and started talking shit in the chat to low levels about skill issues as if he didn't camp airfiled for 8 mins 😐 ( yes we did lose)

  • @LankeethePine
    @LankeethePine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    my favorite fight in the game is Mig-19 vs Etendard, they are .7 difference but from the Etendard side i love the fight

  • @mudkipz3213
    @mudkipz3213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s so annoying that people will just camp AF when they’re the last one alive, or just try and use the AF to let it kill the enemy for them.
    I don’t see where they find enjoyment if you just fly around and do nothing.
    I’ve never used this shitty tactic and I never will.

  • @jamesplatt3101
    @jamesplatt3101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah DEFYN i agree if you aren’t playing the game what’s the point. I’m the kind of person who re-engages with an sm 79 because it has 1 offensive weapon lol

  • @michaelw6277
    @michaelw6277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I’m the last person on my team and I see you I’m running to my airfield too, I’m not going to just give you a free kill. That said in those situations where I know I can’t win I land and leave the aircraft so the match can end so I can move on.

  • @shinsekai101
    @shinsekai101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AA AF should be disabled if you are the last one or the last 2.
    Also, people should just J out and leave if they feel like they are in the worst plane against good planes. just take the L, dont prolong the game

  • @vasownedv1548
    @vasownedv1548 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having no flares kinda destroys this plane for me

  • @Trigg3rHippie
    @Trigg3rHippie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People go into a battle and act like cowards the second they are in danger. Grow some balls.

  • @oscarzheng9902
    @oscarzheng9902 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    im the type of player who fights to the death, running to your airfield to defend a person on your six is a unsatisfying way to end a fight, i'll rather face the opponent and lose honorably instead of win dishonorably

  • @0GTXR
    @0GTXR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Usually what I do against af runners is put myself in a vulnerable state, such as going lower than them, and most of the time they turn right back at you thinking they got this now.

  • @miguel_fidalgo1099
    @miguel_fidalgo1099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This plane is in a limbo, it has amazing performance and you can outperform everything at the br, but you are seeing planes with r60s, magics, and aim9gs though you can deal with those pretty easily, making it so that if you dont get missile spiked from 6 km from a plane that wasnt spotted, you will probably win the match

    • @HighRiskV
      @HighRiskV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The other option is to sealclub everything else

  • @Stug187
    @Stug187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i started watching all your videos lately and stopped being a airfield runner. instead i started to try everything to win against the enemy on my own and when it works, its amazing :) keep ip your great work/videos.

    • @Flayrr872
      @Flayrr872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey man, congrats on no longer being a runner! I just have a few questions if you wouldn't mind answering.
      How long were you an airfield runner for? Did you run even when your team was losing? Do you regret your choices to run previously?

    • @Metrallaroja
      @Metrallaroja 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Congrats!

  • @kaveeshamihiruwanjayasiri7673
    @kaveeshamihiruwanjayasiri7673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    chinese pay to win A-5C is in 10.0 with magic missile and everything. we mig 19s in 9.7 almost get up tier to 10.0 or 10.3 and make Germany air force suffering.
    also it have high 16k repair cost to make Germany poor

  • @onecheman
    @onecheman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Landing should not be a privilege... shity map design by Gaijin, ot fault of players.

  • @152mmapfsds
    @152mmapfsds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's as shrimple as that

  • @wadeperkins714
    @wadeperkins714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I requested this on the discussion post, but I’d really love a guide from you about how to dodge/notch missiles. I have nearly a 5.0 kd with the MiG-15bis, mostly because it rarely sees the caliber of missiles that the MiG-19PT does. When it comes to the 19, I have quite a bit more trouble dealing with missiles, and my kd is barely 1.5. I see the potential when I fly it due to the ridiculous flight performance, but I can’t seem to do as well with it when I need to avoid missiles. Love the vids, congrats on 40k!

    • @easetheweeb
      @easetheweeb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      notching is just flying perpendicular to the person painting you with the radar. to notch you need to be above MAR (minimum abort range: minimum range needed to defeat a missile). MAR at least in my experience is generally farther than 10km. If you are more than 10km out from the missile, simply fly perpendicular to the plane painting you. if you are below MAR it is mostly 50/50 since you cannot notch the missile before splash so you have to maneuver and chaff to attempt to defeat the missile. within 3km the missile will generally not lock in time to account for a defensive maneuver so you are good there.
      note: notching works best against planes that have pulse doppler radars since they rely on relative movement.

  • @lynwoodm632
    @lynwoodm632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    recently found your channel and really glad I did; your play by play explanation is refreshing compared to every other wt creator and your English is impeccable. thanks for all the effort you put into these and your future videos, i appreciate you.

  • @xanderwusky3001
    @xanderwusky3001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the mig19s flew it a lot, did get ace crew on it. Not sure if I bought that or got it from xp but I wouldn't be suprised if it was xp.
    The ace does matter a fair bit. I notice segnificantly less blacking out when I play it. Though ofc it's still a major issue with the plane. Its fairly doable to play around though.

  • @bigl3136
    @bigl3136 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s as shrimple as that 🦐

  • @Hazey652
    @Hazey652 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting points you make about the airfield, unfortunately for you Reddit has informed me that its my god given right to abuse the instadeath sphere on my side of the map.
    Unlucky bozo 😎

  • @nyccoyax3831
    @nyccoyax3831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you said it yourself his plane is very bad, so why would he fight you if its 100% lost fight ?

    • @DEFYN
      @DEFYN  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's never 100% lost.
      I rather win 5/100 fights that i am supposed to lose by playing the game than win 95/100 by letting the game play for me
      I launched the game to play the game, not to sit around and wait for the game to play for me
      Besides most of the people that camp the base do it when they have a 10% chance of losing. It just makes the game borderline unplayable
      And no, this plane isnt bad at all

  • @madmat1652
    @madmat1652 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi defyn any idea how can I keep track of aiming reticle? I know it sounds stupid but im losing it from sight when diving, it blends with the ground even though it is red. I imagine turning colour to cyan would suck near sea

    • @unitariansavage8513
      @unitariansavage8513 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Change color or shape. I find the 'counter strike' crosshairs in neon green work fine for me. The color's bright enough to not blend in too much.

  • @stona71
    @stona71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The wisest words about taking responsibility for your own decisions and airfield aaa problem ever said

  • @danielmostert993
    @danielmostert993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have not yet played the MiG 19s. But I have played and spaded the MiG 19pt. I am looking forward to this one. Just want to finish with the MiG 21F13 and the F5E before I return to the German air trees.

  • @shanechambers9529
    @shanechambers9529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Surviving is more important than winning. Change my mind...

  • @calimdonmorgul7206
    @calimdonmorgul7206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As long as people actually land and leave that should be fine

  • @bbburst3585
    @bbburst3585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just from hearing that engine noise I can hear coughing.

  • @pedromedeiros4955
    @pedromedeiros4955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "its not my problem that you took that plane" the same argument can be used to those annoying bomber players that climbs to space because they dont want to pay repair cost, and i fully agree with you about aaa, i used to be a scummy that runs back to the airfield, but i realized how scummy i was beign and stop doing it. And its even more infuriating when the af camper its in a broken plane like the Xp-50 or the Su-11 and he still fucking camps the af.

  • @katekarin3838
    @katekarin3838 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lmao the M163 on a prop match is so real, I was flying low and had someone on my six that I can't shake and then this random ai M163 instantly reduced him to smithereens. After that I'll always keep myself away from them

  • @user-Vlad954
    @user-Vlad954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi,I just got the mig 19S and I'm wondering if the expert and ace qualification is worth buying.

    • @DEFYN
      @DEFYN  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Expert 100%
      Ace is good but not needed

    • @user-Vlad954
      @user-Vlad954 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DEFYN Thanks it's really amazing plane but most of the time I get killed since I blackout to much so I'm going to grab the expert and ace.Thoe I still need to learn how to lead the guns.Thanks Again!

  • @teamfall4684
    @teamfall4684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you either get missiled by the enemy or an ally, so many times i was trying to have fun in jets dogfighting people but you cant

  • @ouaman6733
    @ouaman6733 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing skill... I ve been in top tier for a couple of months but I don't know how to maneuver the plane while looking around! This is a major disadvantage for me and I recognize that as I m looking you playing. How is it possible?

  • @Zippyz33333
    @Zippyz33333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok i have this plane. I use it a lot but it has the fatal flaw of the pilot blacking out makes it super difficult to use. It can turn well at low speeds but people will rarely turn fight you. They stay fast and most things are just as fast if not faster.

  • @elcangry855
    @elcangry855 ปีที่แล้ว

    Defyn you not only when I fly my f4 d1 soon I'm behind aome about to die they are running right back yo airfields so I do hat airfields pussy then get hit b aa in middle of the map goin Mach one end up paying 20000 of repair cost

  • @oak9065
    @oak9065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every plane/vehicle in game should be playable. You can’t put someone down for playing a “bad plane” the game should give everyone a game mode that accommodates every planes play style *cough* A7 with Fkn af take off *cough*

    • @ISt0leYaCheese
      @ISt0leYaCheese 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did u forget ur playing war thunder?

    • @oak9065
      @oak9065 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ISt0leYaCheese idk what this is supposed to mean? But yes this game is a hellhole I am well aware

    • @ISt0leYaCheese
      @ISt0leYaCheese 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oak9065 it means 60% are useless / not enjoyable especially when played by casuals. Too bad gajin has forgotten about them

    • @oak9065
      @oak9065 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ISt0leYaCheese I just think they need new game modes, they haven’t changed since like 2013

    • @ISt0leYaCheese
      @ISt0leYaCheese 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oak9065 ye it should give many,MANY tank/planes a change to be fun

  • @atvkid0805
    @atvkid0805 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was looking forward to this andddd uptiered, typical garbage not even gonna crew it. They put his thing in a tier against missiles and it doesn't have flares, absolutely going to skip this because of their poor decisions.

  • @finaldesert
    @finaldesert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "...Landing is a privilege, not a right..." Defyn, 2022

  • @thatguy7990
    @thatguy7990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    12:46 fax

  • @152mmapfsds
    @152mmapfsds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The absolute insane energy and acceleration this thing has is why I play it

  • @THECobrabitch
    @THECobrabitch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is one of my favorite planes in game all mig 19 based aircraft, but my favorite one is the A5C, 10.0 with 2 Majics and an untouchable flight model.

    • @RossTheLoss
      @RossTheLoss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same. I love flying the mig 19pl.

  • @royalbirb275
    @royalbirb275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    while i'm still unironically shit at ARB, your videos still give me hope :))
    thanks for the full week of uploads!

  • @ivanthegod49
    @ivanthegod49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to hear more of defyn complaining about the game. makes me feel better. its like yeah, this doesnt only happen to me, it happens to everybody else too