This was one of the first things I did with my BRZ and I highly recommend it. I've been driving stick for about 10 years and when I first got my BRZ I could NOT get used to the clutch. Installed this spring and loved it.
hey guys, thanks for the video! i ordered the spring the day the video was published, and it arrived today. before installing this spring, i wasnt sure if the wife would like driving this car even though she's driven manual a ton of times before- and i always apologized for how terrible my driving was when driving with passengers as well. the install was a breeze thanks to you (as much of a breeze as it could be), and those days of driving with the WhatTheHell-pedal are gone! thank you!
I did it and it's great! The clutch on my new BRZ was inconsistent about where it bit, so you had to pay attention all the time. Even then sometimes it would bite sooner and you didn't have enough revs, sometimes later and you had too many revs, makes you look like a ham fisted driver. Now it's consistent and you don't have to think about it, just like it should be.
Just installed it, a couple of tips i give is when your are taking off the spring make sure to keep extreme caution as to where the top piece shoots, mine went shooting up behind the steering wheel column! Also It does make your clutch springy, but it catches smoother
I ordered this from you back in April and installed it before the car had 200km on the odometer. This is how the pedal should feel from the factory. Pro tip, make sure you have extra zip ties, the ones they provided in my case we're brittle and immediately snapped.
Do NOT lose that pin holding the spring assembly, it’s even worse than losing the E-clip. I tapped mine and it flew in the bottomless void under the carpet and behind a bracket. Took 2 hours to find it and fish it out. When it gets caught at the end, PULL IT, DONT TAP IT out.
It's called free play! That space at top of clutch pedal. Only reason for spring is to keep people who ride with foot on clutch from burning clutch out because they drive with it partly engaged all the time.
seriously, I was skeptical about how much difference it would make without the clutch spring but after I took it out, everything was better. There is no vague area when pressing the clutch. All the screw does is remove the slack at the top of the pedal travel. Trust me, take it out and see what it's like. also... once you have removed it, you will know what a goddamn nightmare it is to install it again so you won't even want to do this spring after. I also did this "mod" to my 18 wrx and that also made a world of difference.
@@alexdavidge3167 i only did the spring delete. It's been over a year and half and so far no issues. And clutch engagement is a lot smoother since I can feel the bite point a lot better. The spring made it so that you can't feel any slack so you would always be doing full send just to not stall out the car. Now I can drive like a civilized member of society.
I love your videos, but to get a proper feel for it I feel like you should drive it. Not sure if you did off screen, but I’ve previously removed a spring, and while noticing a physical difference with the weight of the clutch I didn’t really notice a difference til I drove it. May invest in this spring to see how it drives
Off screen I drove it around the shop slowly, not on the street. In the next Tech Tip Tuesday will be on Mtec Shifter springs, and thats when we'll take it out on the road.
Anyone have any advice for how they tap it out at 3:00? I tried to replace mine today, and the teeth of the spring housing assembly does not budge when I try to tap them out like they did in the video at 3:00. I'm stumped, because I'm leaving gashes in the forks, but it doesnt look like it's being pushed out. To be fair, i do not have as long of a flathead as them, but the gashes indicate the head is slipping when I hit it.
@@jackwicker Use a long flat head, like at least a foot long. The one I got was only like 8 inches for just the bolt and it still wasn't long enough to get enough distance from the dash to get good contact for the hammer to hit the end, if that makes sense. If the flat head were longer, it would have gotten me far better contact. Now, I unfortunately can't remember the rest, but I did get it off. I also piled old rags around all the gaps in the rug to keep the pieces from falling behind and it saved me a few times. Also, as someone said below, pull the pin out, dont tap. I tapped it and almost lost the thing forever.
@@SALEENS7GTR5 I figured it out. Hammering with a flat head did not work for me, but simply pressing on the end of the flat head with all the force I could muster with such little leverage did. I didn't lose the pin, but I did lose the E clamp. However, when the spring assembly finally came off, I found the e clamp again. Finally got it all done, but it took me like 2 and a half hours. Not for the faint of heart or the broad of shoulder.
Has anyone got a rattle after 4K rpm’s using this spring? Not sure it’s that or maybe I should grease the spring it is shorter then the stock one so maybe the extra room would cause That, and I know it’s not my throw out bearing I put a whole new clutch kit in that’s all new, just wanted an upgrade on the clutch
HELP. I have a 2003 GMC Sonoma Pickup. And like I've seen in other Reviews my Daughter won't drive the truck because the clutch is too hard to sue. The Clutch was replaced a few years ago. I see this MTEC Clutch Pring but I don't see it listed for a 2003 GMC Sonoma / or the Chevy S-10. Is there an MTEK cluch spirng for my truck? The only alternative I've seen on TH-cam was a post mentioning adjusting the Clutch travel if it is hydraulic. My regular Mechanic said there is nothing he can do. I'm thinking of going to a Transmission Ship and posing the question to them. The clutch comes up hard and fast (lots of pressure to hold it partway up where the point of connection is).
Just installed mine today. Thomas is right...the most difficult part of the install is the very limited amount of space you have and the angles you have to work at. It was a bitch, even with the right tools. Also, be sure to get stronger zip ties and use a magnet to handle the E clip! Overall... Great product! You can definitely feel the difference in the response and firmness of the clutch. I would recommend. I have not tried the clutch without the spring and dont really care to.
@@kinghenry238 - Yes. After over a month of driving with the upgrade I can say I do still like it a lot. It just has an over more firm and springy feel to it. Feels more controllable too. 👍🏼
Lolol no, the nature of 6 puck is to be grabby. Won't change that, will make free play lighter won't affect pressure required to compress that friction plate.
yes, being able to feel your clutch engagement better makes the car easier to drive. i’ve been driving stick for like 5 or 6 years and i’m swapping mine because the engagement point is so weird and ambiguous on my BRZ
Would this be adequate for a 2020 wrx base model..I did the pedal adjustment and I had to undo it because I got nervous lol then I did the spring removal and it's like a old truck clutch..absolute crap..this has been suggested but is it doable with the heavier clutch of a wrx
I think this spring keeps the linkage and throwout bearing from riding on each other, have a look before you eliminate. Plus, it feels better with this spring than without. I checked.
For anyone wondering, it works with a wrx 2015+ or anything that looks like that. Pair this with A braided steel clutch line, brass bushings, short throw shifter plate, shifter stop and sti short throw shifter and you will have nice shifts. Fyi, i have those
I know right, I just finished mine and had to remove the whole clutch assembly from the car however it was very easy once time was out and the assembly went back in the car quickly.
Could you make that video? I tried to replace mine today, and the teeth of the spring housing do not budge when i try to tap them out like they did in the video at 3:00. I'm stumped, because I'm leaving gashes in the forks, but it doesnt look like it's being pushed out.
@@SALEENS7GTR5 to take the stock out press the clutch and zip tie the springs while its pressed and then push put the c clips and should pop right out... but first slide the zip tie on the stock springs because its hard to put it on while its compressed when you push the clutch pedal down ... this will help the tension and should come off easy no need to bash it out.. if i recall 1 spring gap is should do the trick no need to do the whole length of the springs
depends on the year maybe? 2015 here, definitely glad to swap the spring out with the mtec one. feels like every other car now (kind of important to me when letting other people take it for awhile)
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This was one of the first things I did with my BRZ and I highly recommend it. I've been driving stick for about 10 years and when I first got my BRZ I could NOT get used to the clutch. Installed this spring and loved it.
I swear Thomas bloopers are just my brain 24/7.
hey guys, thanks for the video! i ordered the spring the day the video was published, and it arrived today. before installing this spring, i wasnt sure if the wife would like driving this car even though she's driven manual a ton of times before- and i always apologized for how terrible my driving was when driving with passengers as well. the install was a breeze thanks to you (as much of a breeze as it could be), and those days of driving with the WhatTheHell-pedal are gone! thank you!
Will this work on my automatic frs?
Illusi0ns ur joking
Well he did say it will work with any 86/frs/brz so yes it will fit
“As long as you’ve a factory clutch pedal”.
Yes and get the MTEC shift springs also 😂
Yes get multiple springs but on automatics they go behind the brake pedal
I did it and it's great! The clutch on my new BRZ was inconsistent about where it bit, so you had to pay attention all the time. Even then sometimes it would bite sooner and you didn't have enough revs, sometimes later and you had too many revs, makes you look like a ham fisted driver. Now it's consistent and you don't have to think about it, just like it should be.
Just installed it, a couple of tips i give is when your are taking off the spring make sure to keep extreme caution as to where the top piece shoots, mine went shooting up behind the steering wheel column! Also It does make your clutch springy, but it catches smoother
I ordered this from you back in April and installed it before the car had 200km on the odometer.
This is how the pedal should feel from the factory. Pro tip, make sure you have extra zip ties, the ones they provided in my case we're brittle and immediately snapped.
Do NOT lose that pin holding the spring assembly, it’s even worse than losing the E-clip. I tapped mine and it flew in the bottomless void under the carpet and behind a bracket. Took 2 hours to find it and fish it out. When it gets caught at the end, PULL IT, DONT TAP IT out.
I wish I read your 5 year old comment before having the same thing happen to me... Wild that they don't mention this in the video
It's called free play! That space at top of clutch pedal. Only reason for spring is to keep people who ride with foot on clutch from burning clutch out because they drive with it partly engaged all the time.
So the free play I’m feeling at the top of the pedal clutch pedal is normal? Even just from tapping it there’s play
That dead space is so that the throwout bearing isn't contacting the pressure plate
I swear my mind is being read by you guys I was just about to take out my spring today and this video comes out, get out of my head!
I currently have no clutch spring and don't mind it at all but there is a dead spot at the top definitely gonna order
Cool, just ordered one, nice quick install after review of this well done tutorial. I've killed this car several times over the years. 14 FRS.
Im going to use this as a guide to replace my OEM spring that broke, Thanks for the video
How do we put the c clip back on??
No lie,the zip ties to compress the spring are essential. Otherwise you'll spend a couple hrs fighting with that pin instead of 1.
I thought about removing the clutch spring as well, but good thing this came out. Might just buy one
seriously, I was skeptical about how much difference it would make without the clutch spring but after I took it out, everything was better. There is no vague area when pressing the clutch. All the screw does is remove the slack at the top of the pedal travel. Trust me, take it out and see what it's like. also... once you have removed it, you will know what a goddamn nightmare it is to install it again so you won't even want to do this spring after. I also did this "mod" to my 18 wrx and that also made a world of difference.
It's been out for some time now.
Well worth it, the pedal should feel like this from the factory.
@@joshuaszeto did u use the mtec spring on your 2018 wrx or just left it with no spring and have u had any issues after
@@alexdavidge3167 i only did the spring delete. It's been over a year and half and so far no issues. And clutch engagement is a lot smoother since I can feel the bite point a lot better. The spring made it so that you can't feel any slack so you would always be doing full send just to not stall out the car. Now I can drive like a civilized member of society.
This spring added 10hp.
I love your videos, but to get a proper feel for it I feel like you should drive it. Not sure if you did off screen, but I’ve previously removed a spring, and while noticing a physical difference with the weight of the clutch I didn’t really notice a difference til I drove it. May invest in this spring to see how it drives
Off screen I drove it around the shop slowly, not on the street. In the next Tech Tip Tuesday will be on Mtec Shifter springs, and thats when we'll take it out on the road.
Could you do a hella horn install next?
Anyone have any advice for how they tap it out at 3:00? I tried to replace mine today, and the teeth of the spring housing assembly does not budge when I try to tap them out like they did in the video at 3:00. I'm stumped, because I'm leaving gashes in the forks, but it doesnt look like it's being pushed out. To be fair, i do not have as long of a flathead as them, but the gashes indicate the head is slipping when I hit it.
Any luck? I'm at a loss.
@@jackwicker Use a long flat head, like at least a foot long. The one I got was only like 8 inches for just the bolt and it still wasn't long enough to get enough distance from the dash to get good contact for the hammer to hit the end, if that makes sense. If the flat head were longer, it would have gotten me far better contact. Now, I unfortunately can't remember the rest, but I did get it off. I also piled old rags around all the gaps in the rug to keep the pieces from falling behind and it saved me a few times.
Also, as someone said below, pull the pin out, dont tap. I tapped it and almost lost the thing forever.
@@SALEENS7GTR5 I figured it out. Hammering with a flat head did not work for me, but simply pressing on the end of the flat head with all the force I could muster with such little leverage did. I didn't lose the pin, but I did lose the E clamp. However, when the spring assembly finally came off, I found the e clamp again. Finally got it all done, but it took me like 2 and a half hours. Not for the faint of heart or the broad of shoulder.
@@jackwicker good to hear, it took me about that long too, with a sore back haha
Help! the pin won’t go in I’ve been hammering it for like an hour
The spring in the wrx is really stiff so this one makes it a more
Solid clutch feel. No spring at all is a dog fight
Fuck I lost the spring when it flew into the dash
can i get a mechanic to do it ? would a toyota dealer do it?
Does that mean we don't put any replacement spring for it? And should we use it completely without a spring?
Has anyone got a rattle after 4K rpm’s using this spring? Not sure it’s that or maybe I should grease the spring it is shorter then the stock one so maybe the extra room would cause That, and I know it’s not my throw out bearing I put a whole new clutch kit in that’s all new, just wanted an upgrade on the clutch
I have a Wrx, can I install this on mine?
will this work on Wrx?
I just took ours out. Mom burns clutches out pretty fast so hopefully this will help.
Gotta get it back together tomorrow! Hope things go smooth!
3 days in can’t put the pin in at all
reinstalling the pin with the spring on is such a pain. any tips to get it through?
I clamped mine with channel locks
HELP. I have a 2003 GMC Sonoma Pickup. And like I've seen in other Reviews my Daughter won't drive the truck because the clutch is too hard to sue. The Clutch was replaced a few years ago. I see this MTEC Clutch Pring but I don't see it listed for a 2003 GMC Sonoma / or the Chevy S-10. Is there an MTEK cluch spirng for my truck? The only alternative I've seen on TH-cam was a post mentioning adjusting the Clutch travel if it is hydraulic. My regular Mechanic said there is nothing he can do. I'm thinking of going to a Transmission Ship and posing the question to them. The clutch comes up hard and fast (lots of pressure to hold it partway up where the point of connection is).
Just installed mine today.
Thomas is right...the most difficult part of the install is the very limited amount of space you have and the angles you have to work at. It was a bitch, even with the right tools.
Also, be sure to get stronger zip ties and use a magnet to handle the E clip!
Overall...
Great product! You can definitely feel the difference in the response and firmness of the clutch. I would recommend. I have not tried the clutch without the spring and dont really care to.
Do you still like the feel after driving with it for a while? Thinking about getting one.
@@kinghenry238 - Yes. After over a month of driving with the upgrade I can say I do still like it a lot. It just has an over more firm and springy feel to it. Feels more controllable too. 👍🏼
How would this affect the feel of a stage 2 clutch? It’s heavier than stock but it feels even more vague now because it’s a 6 puck and less forgiving.
It would still make it heavier with more feel.
Lolol no, the nature of 6 puck is to be grabby. Won't change that, will make free play lighter won't affect pressure required to compress that friction plate.
Peter Welsh I’ve driven on a 6 puck before. The engagement height just feels vague. I’m wondering if I can fix that with a spring.
For 2017+ model install this spring. It is must more difficult! If possible please show the installation method for the new model. Thanks
It's the same for all years
Every step of the way is way easier when the clutch is pushed in fyi
I can't do it, how much would the mechanic charge for it? How long does it take to change it?
miss this era of FTspeed/subispeed, with Tomas and before they became evil and fired Kevin
I just got a brz and im learning stick shift on it? Would you recommend this for someone learning?
yes, being able to feel your clutch engagement better makes the car easier to drive. i’ve been driving stick for like 5 or 6 years and i’m swapping mine because the engagement point is so weird and ambiguous on my BRZ
Would this be adequate for a 2020 wrx base model..I did the pedal adjustment and I had to undo it because I got nervous lol then I did the spring removal and it's like a old truck clutch..absolute crap..this has been suggested but is it doable with the heavier clutch of a wrx
You ever try it ?
I just got my BRZ and can't feel when the clutch grabs. Gonna remove the spring altogether.
I think this spring keeps the linkage and throwout bearing from riding on each other, have a look before you eliminate. Plus, it feels better with this spring than without. I checked.
@@jeepmor I replaced it with a lighter spring, it does feel better.
@@skmetal7 did you go with this brand ?
Will it work for 19 wrx?
Are MY18 STI clutch spring inter changable with BRZ/86? I like STI clutch pedal feel
they're the same for all years and trims.
Can we get a body kit (widebody tutorials) video?
Will I get 10+ hp once i install ? Oh and do i need the OFT ? 😂🤣
you get way more hp, this spring is practically a sticker factory!
Yes.
Use the Stage 2 Clutch Spring tune and you'll get like +10hp gains
I like this coilovers 😂😂😂
Will this work on a 2022+ BRZ
The same question！
@@WayneTsui-z5w yes, it's just the same
YUUUUUH!
"This clip will shoot of so make sure you dont lose it"
My clip: shoots off into the dungeon that is behind the plastic covers
Me: well fuck...
Noob here: Shouldn't these soft springs cause clutch slippage under sudden acceleration ?
I drive my frs with no clutch spring
I'm sorry to hear that 😔
What if you lose the clip lol
Spring install is for amateurs. Now do one of the supercharger kits!
So, does the spring comes with the crappy zip ties that break? Lol
Yes. 😂
I didn't even use them. Just used some better ones I had.
I have some very teeny tiny spring compressors you can borrow, but you’ll need a 3 mm socket and a 2 inch snap on ratchet.
For anyone wondering, it works with a wrx 2015+ or anything that looks like that. Pair this with
A braided steel clutch line, brass bushings, short throw shifter plate, shifter stop and sti short throw shifter and you will have nice shifts. Fyi, i have those
This is not easy on a rhd
I know right, I just finished mine and had to remove the whole clutch assembly from the car however it was very easy once time was out and the assembly went back in the car quickly.
i found a fast way and easy to do it .. let me know if you want me to make a video :) ill take it out again on my brz ts 2020
Could you make that video? I tried to replace mine today, and the teeth of the spring housing do not budge when i try to tap them out like they did in the video at 3:00. I'm stumped, because I'm leaving gashes in the forks, but it doesnt look like it's being pushed out.
@@SALEENS7GTR5 to take the stock out press the clutch and zip tie the springs while its pressed and then push put the c clips and should pop right out... but first slide the zip tie on the stock springs because its hard to put it on while its compressed when you push the clutch pedal down ... this will help the tension and should come off easy no need to bash it out.. if i recall 1 spring gap is should do the trick no need to do the whole length of the springs
It takes 20 seconds off your lap times. 😏😏
1st!! Bell goes ring ring !
First comment! Goodluck in finals guys! If I get all A’s I’m buying an exhaust ! Lol
So I'm the only one here who is fine how the clutch feels?
I feel in the car when clutch engages, I don't care about dead clutch. Heck if I'm on leisure drive i just float the gears up and down.
depends on the year maybe? 2015 here, definitely glad to swap the spring out with the mtec one. feels like every other car now (kind of important to me when letting other people take it for awhile)
I really wouldn't call the springless clutch pedal heavy...
Looks like a valve spring to me
Probably switched the clutch pedal springs and valve springs in the 2013s...
Hectic
Its 30 bucks for a fucking spring
I got 3 for like 17$ including shipping, lmk if you want info
Coping ASAP.
Makes it so easy for these car dudes being 5’5 being able to get in there, my mom is literally taller than this guy probably, hella annoying
He took the door off... HE CHEATED!
Does this go on the 19 brz?
yes