The Three Wave WIN Lane GUARANTEED Strategy | Skill Capped
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LoL Guide Description: In this guide we give you a real deep dive into how to carry as an ADC in the first three waves of the game to win the lane. We do this by breaking down every step EG Bang takes to achieve this in top tier challenger gameplay, if it works there, it'll work anywhere. Enjoy!
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What role do we release a guide for next? Hmm...
Mid pls.
It's not for me, it's for my teammate.
JG ITS FOR ME :). Use this as a jg request button. Hit the like :)
Mid please
top
pls :)
My mind : "Ah I think I got this."
My hands: "No you don't."
My mind : hmm i think i got this
my hands: ok lets try it and see how this goes
my support : 0/1/0 Report my weak adc 0 dmge so trash.
my enemies: Ez
My mind : Alt+4
My hands .
@@pilokxx1609 my mind tells my to like the comment bcst i agree with you bt my hands almost pressed disslike bcst this is so sad
this is so relatable
Piano in a nutshell
My mind writes checks that my hands can't pay
"...but League is much more than kills" wish more people in SoloQ understood this
I feel you
The best way to tell people this is remind them that 300 gold is only boots or a dagger. I know i know, its more than that, free farming and plates and what not, but its what i use when one of my team mates is tilting to oblivion. Chill em out, remind them that its not over with one death but with 15 xD
@@blbblb21223 I like thinking that killing in the right time is much more useful than normal kills. If you kill your enemy when you can freeze the wave you not only get the gold but they miss so much cs that they lose leaning.
"OH my fucking god! How is he killing me? I'm two kills ahead!" *is 100 cs behind*
nope, league is all about fighting killing and tilting. What will it be if we are higher elo. If you want it yes it is a lot more than fighting. but if you are just taking a break from study. kill it man dive dive fight
Something that's not being metioned is how open bot side is for enemy jungler when doing this. Its a really good strategy, but being aware of jungle pathing is also important when executing it.
When the enemy bot helps their jungle to take buff at start, you know that probably (99%) he is heading topside so you can definitely do the strategy, once you hard pushed your lane, the minions will push back to your tower (this is when the jungler is around to recall from topside and head back to bot) and you can setup a freeze..its easy :D
If you have a big wave and all of your sums worst case enemy jg takes shitty route to gank you and u waste your sums enemy bot misses huge wave under tower and now you still have huge gold lead, minions at lvl 2-3 especially when u build huge caster wave will do more dmg then any champ can
@@opmami lol jung can lv2 gank your lane. or alternatively do 3camp same side start for lv3.
@@opmami Kristian is right, you slow push the wave meaning that enemy jungle will come for you. And not the jungle, Braum is looking for harrassing Vayne but Nautilus is doing nothing. This is just simply a false ban/pick scenario which Bang have advange last pick on
@@asspounderify both suboptimal.
You can apply this same concept in mid lane except instead of harassing the enemy when you crash the wave into their tower, you can get a recall in and buy an extra dorans item/dark seal while only losing 1-2 minions since mid lane is shorter, also by the time you come back you can set a freeze and punish your opponent with your item lead, and if they have teleport to match the buy then you essentially forced out their tp pressure in the first 5 mins of the game.
thank you, i was wondering how to implement this to midlane
Thank you
*Bang applies this strategy*
OMG Bang is so good
*Bang gets stomped by this strategy*
LMAO Bang is washed out
Bronzies spectating indeed Kappa
Your profile pic matches it
Yeahhhh except Bang had a Leona and less poke so this strategy wasnt going to work for him in the first place. Im new to this game lol
These guides are really well edited
The optimal play would have been to cheater recall after the cannon minion wave because:
1. With 17-19 cs from the first 3 waves, the ADC has enough gold for a cull. Coming back to lane with an item advantage is usually more valuable than a little tower damage or poke in most matchups.
2. The ADC will only lose 0-3 melee minions worth of exp, depending on how quickly he hard pushed the 3rd wave.
3. Bot lane will be gank immune. By pushing up, in some matchups, ganks can screw you over. When returning from a recall with the 3rd wave pushed in like that, the reinforcing enemy minion wave will be closer to the enemy tower than your own and will slow push to you. You can play safe and let the wave come into you and be gank immune. In a lot of matchups, this play can also let you control how the wave comes into you and how to harass the enemy (which is easier to do due to item advantage).
Theory :
Reality : enemy rengar jungle double kill
You're missing the whole "enemy bot lane came to lane late meaning their jungler started bot side and unless their jungle is twitch,xin or someone that is good at ganking at lv2 its mid and top lane that is at risk of gank around becuase jungler will be on that side of the map with a potentional lv 3 over while all the laners still are level 2 and he would have red buff.
Adam R except red raptors krugs or blue wolves gromp should be level 3 these days as well
@@Ignisami blue quarter clear into gank doesn't give you red buff tho
I LOVED the contents in this video, as a beginner ADC who's been struggling a lot, there is lots of helpful information that creates more awareness about where I want my minion wave to be.
However I think it is very underappreciated due to the title.
A seasoned pro would maybe watch this anyways, but your viewers are probably seeing this video because they have been searching for beginner's guides and tips to get better at the game.
Smart beginners would click away because they think that the key to this game is hordes of experience and decision-making based off of that experience. You should change the title to be more broad. Glad I watched thanks for putting this one together, it's awesome!
I definitely think skill capped is way more i informative and transparent than pro guides, i actually feel like im learning from the video, not just watching and trying to make out vague tips.
When you stay for the whole video just so they can tell you all your mains are bad at this strategy💀
It's good to know what the enemy is doing in your games.
I think Bard and Ashe are pretty good for this strategy. They have a high amount of range and cc. Ashe can scout for the enemy jungler so that they might even roam into enemy jungler. Otherwise they keep pressure on the enemy under turret. Also if they are unable to catch the enemy jungler in the time gap, bard will get some Meeps. Summarized i think Ashe is great because of her range, waveclaer because of W and her vision because of E. Bard is great because he also has range and cc, he gets some time to collect meeps and with his gate they might land a better catch on the enemy jungler or get back to lane faster.
Thanks for this video, i would like to see a Guide on when to pick teleport and when to tp botlane without loosing to much on top.
I think the main important fact was the jungle was a weak early jungle or started botside. At this time of the game you do attracted jungle if you aggro like that.
Man this channel is great! Amazing adc content. Your guides are ACTUALLY useful
teaching how to cheater recall the LS way
Keegun has been doing it for years, LS is not the OG
Slow push first wave then hard shove second. Third would be a canon wave which would allow you a freecall.
Those are not advanced techniques. It can be applied and used in every lane and it was probably abused 5 years ago in Korean and Chinese server. For example, u can use this strategy in top lane when u play Jayce and Gnar. Also u can freeze the lane to get some farms like what’s mentioned in the video as vlad against lane bullies like Renekton and Darius. Btw, Why many people in the west admire this LS guy so much. He is the one who stole some strategies in the eastern regions. I saw some of his video, he’s not good as u said and I felt definitely familiar with the videos he uploaded, like rephrase what dopa said in his stream. I’d prefer to call him cheater.
@@bowenzhang2259 You realize that all LS is trying to do is teach western players these advanced techniques. And even if eastern players have been doing this for years, it still doesnt mean LS cant teach us how to do it. There is nothing wrong with teaching the game. Just because Dopa has done it on stream or said something similar it doesnt mean LS cant talk about the same stuff.
Smash I am just saying this video is the same. No one has copyrights to those strategies. It’s all about sharing and spreading. Korean once ruled the league world and everyone learned from them. But they had been beaten really bad recent years. One thing impressed me quite deep is how fast G2 learned from others. Although they didn’t get to the trophy, I guess it’s the reason why they still had won every other things throughout the entire year. About LS: I’m ok with sharing the strategies.But he’s like translating others’ words into English and claiming them as his works. It’s kinda weird.
The quality of your videos is really amazing, thank you for being so informative and entertaining.
Please make a mid lane guide, show the difference in lane control with assassins, control mages, and other, thanks and keep the good work, it really helps me
16:28 I donno why but it feels like Google 😂😂
Avatari Nega cuz voice track is a bit speeded up. It makes videos more interesting and more informative. It could be more than 17 mins with a normal play speed, and for you it would be a bit monotonous and boring to watch and listen whole video
16:10 But I see Draven players consistently apply this startegy. I'm pretty sure it fits that champion's playstyle because he has a lot of damage with his Q and can get a minion advantage more quickly than then enemies. Not to mention he would suffer more from poke if he's pushed in. Even though he has low range, his auto attacks hit like a truck, thus we can see Draven streamers auto attacking the enemy ADC walking up to farm or hitting the turret otherwise, which consistently gives turret plates.
I kind of agree with you. Champions like Draven and Yasuo are almost forced to push the minion wave because of their kits. Draven wants to use/catch his axe's and yasuo wants to stack his q nado. So yeah, their kits kind of "encourage" them to do this.
Many Draven players however hardpush (ie not slow push) and just crash the wave too soon. Ideally you want to have a hook support or something that can get the enemy out from under their tower as you crash the biggest wave possible. It's pretty much guaranteed enemy sums if not a kill.
The real key to pulling this strategy off is understanding who has the strong lvl 1, and who has the "guts" to go for it. I've played many matchups where the enemy had a way stronger lvl 1. However they didn't contest when I ran head in and just started autoing the wave. Often players aren't really sure who wins the lvl 1 all in, so they just give prio even if they really had it.
watching the senna tahm vs syndra leona actually astonished me, like, all the high level strat that is going on that most people can't even understand its crazy
06:55 "while senna has her Q up" "Q = 12s CD"
VirtuosoKlaus which is reduced by autoattacks on any unit
uKzJoKaaz hi
@@HANCOCK_LOL it does still with 12s cd
If it is on CD, she DOESN'T have this skill "UP", basic english interpretation
@@mateusschramm regardless syndra still loses the aa battle.
That last tip for outplaying Leona E is so useful. Thanks so much
I really love your tips and tutorials. Favorite LOL guide channel 💕 more power
@2:36 vayne is behind because he cannot trade with or against any adc other then draven at early levels. Skill capped seems to start showing flaws. Regardless of the minion wave, vayne would not be able to cs because #1, she's weak early vs Aphelios who's strong early. Aphelios doesn't control the wave but his presence being a more earlier game champion than vayne is the one why vayne is sitting back. It's not wave manipulation. Aphelios vs vayne wins lane EVERY TIME as long as aphelios player has a brain. The minion advantage is simply a bonus.
I like how it's broken down and explained. Cuz a lot of challenger players that charge for coaching will just tell u to "hit the minions, create a freeze, hard push, etc" without explaining the reasoning behind it
Fantastic guide with detailed explanations
Well done, the hard work and efforts you put in really comes to show ;)
Thx again to skillcapped!!
Cait and Morg are actually best for this..they can reliably push or counter this strategy by thining the wave from distance with Cait q or morg w
Yeehaw 1 minute ago ♥ Glad to see a new video~
great job for real best video on this topic ♥
Great video. Learned so much from those u uploaded. Thanks from China.
Aphelios doesn't need minion waves, he is a win wave by himself.
me : *trying to freeze my lane
my support : today is not the day sir
I find this video very helpfull. I play a lot of teemo toplane and aplying this helps me a little bit, but teemos lvl 3 is weaker then most toplaners (renekton, darius, garen osv.) so i have to be crafull off when they hit lvl and not be pushed because they will run me down. You guys help me to be more annoying in game and im thankfull for that :D
The best skill capped video ever
This is cool and all - when there would be no junglers in the game. As a jungler myself I would highly prefer the opponents to be about 2/3 pushed towards our tower (the mentioned freeze), making them a lot easier to gank.
if it me: 4 mins already 5 man diving me under tower with 100 % hp.
Ah yes because the adcs that do this in challenger don't consider junglers at all, you're so right
No, because there are thousands of matches played every day and this video covers like five of them where the jungler did NOT show up on botlane within the first minutes.
If you notice, most of the time they're keeping their range while harassing, and even when they're not you can tell what's natural behaviour and what's not, thus being able to read the gank, and in a few scenarios when the wave is big you win 2v3s anyway and/or the guy ganking is gonna be sacred of getting counter ganked and losing the game
Edit:typo
According to you no gank should ever work because skilled people can read it, etc. - and yet it happens in almost every LCS match :D.
great guide! i'll try to put this in action
love your vods
Maybe this won't work mid but I'll try it for a few games, regardless of whether it works out this guide felt very clear and professional and hopefully I can use this advice to at least learn how to create freezes :D
great video as always keep it up
Thanks! That's another gemm, you guys do a great work
Zven's been #1 ADC on the ladder for a while. When was this even made?
A while ago
It was released on our site about 2 weeks ago
@@skillcapped Why not just post the vids on youtube and the site at the same time?
They have to make money on their site first
really great video !
Also this is a take on DOPA's Cannon minion strategy. It's technically not a "three minion wave strat" but rather your queue is the cannon minion. slow push all waves then when cannon minion arrives, you hard push.
After watching this video I just realised how oblivious the community really is in regards to basic mechanics of this game.
As a Jungler I usually clear the south side of jungle in about 3:20, so seeing the lane pushed so far in after clearing raptors I‘d definitely go there. And what would you do if the enemy just aa‘s the casters at the beginning? Especially in low elo, random shoving or fighting for the lvl 2 advantage is rather common.
Ivern support BABY
ThankQ for this great video
Great guide !
Me how to win in 3 waves
my teammates: how to loose in two waves
Sett SP with predator and mobi boots is awesome!! Win lane then roam alot.
Would this work vs melee match ups. Like cait and morg vs jax and naut?
Instead of staying in lane doing nothing you can go back, buy and get to lane in a position where you have full control on your wave (and have lost almost no minions at all) and vayne will be either behind on mana/hp or she'll have to back giving you the chance to deny even more minions.
Really goes to show how vital a support can be if the 2 aren't in sync on something so simple as killing minions. Crazy
Yeah that starting strat is really champion specific. Imagine the champs were swapped
Good video, but does it mean that if the enemy jungler is shaco and starts your side of the map, you have to let you push and so you are pretty much doomed until your own jungler helps you?
Love this channel
is in your website any guide of how decide the best strategy for the game?
Vietnam🇻🇳 ty for the lesson bro👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Would Rell work? Even she is melee her passive reduces AR and MR which can quicken dmg taken. If she does this at lvl 2 she stun any close engages and flash away
Loved the video but my entire champion pool is unfortunately the "weak adcs" to use this strat with. Are there any better strats i can use from level 1 with these champs? and would you happen to have a video on them? much love
poto ur name means ass in my country lmao
late reply and i'm not challenger but please take the "weak adc" thing with a grain of salt. especially in lower elo, it's not necessarily about how weak or strong your adcs are for this tactic, rather it's about how your support and you are compared to enemy support and adc and how they play.
for example, while leona is considered 'weak' and lulu 'strong', leona definitely has the push advantage if lulu doesn't aa the wave. protip, she won't. no support lower than high plat autos waves. when i play leona, i structurally, without fail, manage to outpush enemy no matter what kind of adc I have, if the enemy support is some enchanter (lulu etc) or even mage (lux morgana etc).
so that leaves you. your leo is outpushing the lulu. now, let's say you play vayne, and enemy plays cait. an obvious disadvantage here, but now let's say this lulu is standing so far back for whatever reason that the cait is effectively 1v2 the lane. that means you and leo can threaten her even at level 1, as long as you show some cojones and don't overrespect her ability to 1v2 at level 1, especially if you already have minion advantage and you could potentially all-in her at 2.
or, let's say lulu is not dumb, but the cait is not AA'ing the wave for whatever reason, or she is but she's letting you hit the wave for free, even though she shouldn't. so now you can still get the slowpush going!
most of this game is about capitalizing on what enemy does. you can have a plan with which you enter the game, which is good, but especially in our lower shitty elos, we never know what the enemy's plan is and it can be some complete yolo stuff. he can be drunk, or have 300 ms, or maybe he forgot how to lulu, or how to q. you never know. adjust to what you see!
really good content , unlike other overrated youtube channels .
What about jhin would he be a good option for this strategy?
Can you explain what is the level of camp please :( ? I dont understand what is 1,3,5,7 in the prev video
Today i saw something similar to this in the top lane.
I was in the top left, below the turret cleaning minions after a kill (was lvl 4-5), with very low hp. My jungler was kayne, which was on the bush where you ward to avoid ganks, he was covering for me in case Yi appeared. Yi did appeared, so he landed some abilities, then e started to go trough the wall in my direction, and yi alpha striked.
Well, i suppose he wasnt happy, he was chunked from kayne, then got 2 turret shots. Easy kill.
Wow awesome tips 👍🏻 Next time mid lane
Any tips to do this solo with my thresh/ blitz standing in god knows which bush
So in the last clip with zven and bang, what can zven do if he can't crash the wave to tower. Let senna push?
Saw a little mistake.. "syndra used her q meaning she only had autos and you went to say sena not only has better autos but her q up was false.. as senas q was on cooldown for 10 more seconds.
Can this technique be used in top lane effectively?
I think so
Absolutely. Just be weary that doing this in top is more risky if the enemy jungle started their bot side. Effectively leaving you open to jungle ganks/pressure around the 3min mark
watch foggedftw2 he uses similar strategy but he shoves in the second wave under tower instead
Thanks again, all the love.
"Bang"
Me: *season 7 worlds flashbacks*
*Botlane focusing on wave management to get a lead*
Meanwhile somewhere in jungle: *hardcore music playing while instensive fighting for a scuttle*
How do you apply this strategy against caitlyn when she can poke you out when you try to slow push?
By spacing correctly, usually in a lane where u have range disadvantage u want to be close to bush and auto attack from bush when Cait is on the river side. If Cait takes the bush, u are forced in a awkward spot but that usually won't happen cuz Caitlyn wants to be in a position to hit both u and the minnion wave with her Q thus allowing her to get push and hp lead on u. Ur main goal vs Cait is to play different side of the lane from where she is, it isn't that hard.
@@zipiking7955 Thanks for the tip! It really helped me laning against caits!
Would this strategy work on a melee toplaner?
Yep! We have a top lane version just released on our site if you're interested in subscribing. But most of the info is the same (just has some extra info about ganks and how to get the push in different matchups)
@@skillcapped thank you, I'm considering subscribing. Oh, and another question: What do I do after the third wave? Let the wave reset and repeat this strategy?
@@varrooliver2971 You can recall immediately after the 3rd wave hits the tower and come back to lane with an additional Dorans Blade or a Cull, which will boost your gold lead even harder. The enemies wave will usually push towards you and you should not miss out on any minions if you have done it right.
ty for the leona tip
awesome. maybe ill try playing adc for a change
What if ur playing garen top? U don't have range.. should u just freeze early game and get cs lead and punish the enemy champ if they come close?
Is this strat viable for other roles (top laner question)
This strategy is only beneficial for the strong lvl 1-3 champions, even then the enemy jungler could do an early gank to counter this strategy.
Coud you make like this but then for top?
We just did that on our site today. Maybe it'll end up on TH-cam!
@@skillcapped Did it?
Cool vid, but can you do something like this, but for mid?
Yeah do this strat against heimer. Gl
finally a video explaing the waves
I say around second drag or after depends where the game is at
I usually start taking camps when the waves aren't in a good spot mid/late game and/or there's nothing on the map during rotations to take ie drake/baron. No use waiting around for the wave to come closer when you can easily get 100G+ and then catch the wave after.
Junglers have busy schedules. If hes too busy to farm it within 3 or 4 minutes just have it!
I never knew Minions were of different types, They all looked the same to me.. XD
Ok but what if the enemy does auto the wave: then you don't have a minion advantage no? So how can you be sure to complete mission 1? Also, should you successfully complete this strategy, you are vulnerable to jungle gank.
How do you counter the counter?
This one is really good
Hi, nice technique. Can you do this in top lane ?
yes, but be wary of the enemy jgl, u dont have anyone too peel and i wouldnt rcommend it when the enemy top has lvl 1 cc
Your saying which ever team helps jungler leash buff loses lane? cause it gives enemy bot lane prio, right? I thought Ganks from your jungler can always help you get back lane priority?
Do a guide for Master Yi + Taric top funnel strat
i do love your content guys
Isnt Zven the number one ranked ad in NA?
The wave crashes under tower by the 3:10 minute mark when the enemy jungler is looking to gank, isnt this too risky if the enemy started on the oposite side?
10:32 rip zoe
If only my bronze support knows how to not take my minions so i can slow push
True -- I recommend trying to find someone to duo with so that you can be on the same page going into the game. :)
Cham
Yea this is near impossible to do in bronze.
@@benjaminschroder4074 you could like type to them, big brain move I know
vin w
Can be hard to do in the moment.
I just climbed from unranked to High plat with my adc smurf recently so i know how tilting it is when a support fucks up the wawe.
In low elo you just have to take the opportunities given to u when the enemy ints. Which there are plenty of.
Just kill the retarded enemy in bronze. you don't need to watch wave management video's untill you are gold
Can i use this strategy through the whole early game/until the first turret is destroyed?
Sadly, no. There is a jungler you have to worry about. This strategy leaves you exposed to a gank. This works for the first 3 waves because junglers don't have the time. They would have to plan their jungle route specifically to gank bot, for example killing Red, Raptors, Krugs into a gank. Even then, they have to be at good HP since Krugs that early usually gets the jungler low. Even so, asking the support to ward lvl 2 during the slow push phase pretty much negates this, barring they don't have a Twitch jungle. I would never suggest this VS at Twitch jungle.
This is just a standard strategy that's used in the majority of high level play. I suppose you excluded games that have an enemy Jungler, because this is not a bullet-proof strategy, it relies heavily on composition and your/enemy Jungler's pathing , yet you fail to express many of it's flaws in this video.
Yup like you cannot do this if you leash ad enemy can get a minion lead before you
This depends on supp matchup too a karma is going to beat an alistar for a wave push.
Wouldn't tristana also be one of the best adcs for this strategy? She is good at pushing so it's hard for the enemy to stop her from controlling the wave and her E can be a good harass when used on tower so she doesn't need a ranged ability as much, her lv2 advantage is also very good, the only thing she lacks is CC, having only a slow.
watching the vid and reading this has made me want to go play tristana ty
@@itsfadey Pretty much what the video did to me, I tried playing trist as one of my first adcs cuz i suck at that role and watching this strategy just made me think of playing tristana, but then she wasn't mentioned in the best adcs, so maybe I am missing something and she won't be that great as some other adcs