Stephen Meyer Investigates Scientific Evidence for Intelligent Design (Lecture 1)

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    For the first time, you can have living room access to over seven hours of teaching by intelligent design pioneer Stephen Meyer in a brand-new online course. A favorite of students young and old(er), Meyer will delight both as he explores the scientific evidence for intelligent design (ID) found in physics, cosmology, biology and the chemical origin of life.
    Join Stephen as he investigates the scientific evidence for intelligent design in the origin of life, the development of biological complexity, and physics and cosmology. In 42 short video lectures, Meyer explores the scientific basis for the theory of intelligent design-the idea that key features of life and the universe are best explained as the product of an intelligent cause rather than an unguided process. In this course, Meyer will guide you through the major concepts and information presented in his path breaking books Signature in the Cell and Darwin’s Doubt, as well as previewing some of the material about physics and cosmology in his book The Return of the God Hypothesis. Each video lecture is accompanied by a short quiz, and a special digital certificate of completion is offered for those who finish the course. For more about the course visit www.discoveryu.org/courses/meyer.
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  • @michaelrichardson9458
    @michaelrichardson9458 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    We are surrounded by evidence for intelligent design, but you have to actually have a look for it to see it, which many people refuse to honestly and seriously do.

  • @jayhardy52
    @jayhardy52 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    When humanist scientists go to great lengths to stifle opposing thought, it just exposes the weakness of their position!

  • @leonfontius5300
    @leonfontius5300 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I've always been sick of the censorship of intelligent design thanks for another amazing video 😀😁

  • @jimr5855
    @jimr5855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.". Schopenhauer.

  • @stevelawrie7087
    @stevelawrie7087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This man is a hero, and has been one for years: the future will revindicate him. The whole world has been shifting in this direction for years and as the truth is progressively revealed, so intelligent design will appear as the only scientifically possible response. There are many others of his calibre working everday towards this goal.

  • @jerubaal3333
    @jerubaal3333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    God bless You, Stephen!

  • @johnb187
    @johnb187 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Excellent presentation Stephen, hopefully most people will hear and understand your clear science and reasoning.

  • @samkcollins123
    @samkcollins123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I teach a Christian Evidence class and Bible Classes at a small OK university and have enjoyed using your material so much. They don't keep a tight rein on me here and your material has received rave review. "is the Bible Reliable" has been a great help also. Thanks so much!

  • @b4u334
    @b4u334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Thank you for all that you do in order to promulgate the truth, Stephen Meyer!

  • @MLeoM
    @MLeoM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Stephen Meyer,
    Sir, thank you for this amazing lecture 1.
    Waiting for the next lecture.

  • @RedBird77
    @RedBird77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love the Stephen! Always makes me think about what life is all about. Cant get enough. Brilliant for sure.

  • @carlgreninger
    @carlgreninger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A completely rational and objective analysis of the only comprehensive theory to successfully explain all three conundrums facing science today, which include entropy of the singularity, extreme symmetry of the fundamental constants and forces, and the origin of cellular life. Magnificent!

  • @MapleBoarder78
    @MapleBoarder78 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you Dr. Stephen Meyer for your hard work on this.

  • @CommissarGamza
    @CommissarGamza 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great video. I look forward to watching the rest of this series.

  • @nb7524
    @nb7524 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I truly appreciate all that you and your staff do, thank you very much!

  • @MLeoM
    @MLeoM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Extractly scientific interpretation...
    Connecting the dots and interpreting evidence to get a meaningful answer...

  • @svenskaapologetiksallskape527
    @svenskaapologetiksallskape527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    brilliant and inspiring as usual. Thank you Stephen!!

  • @ericgatera7149
    @ericgatera7149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is just fantastic and well articulated. I am not an intelligent design proponent myself but I am very much sympathetic to the view though. I will await the follow up episodes in the serie. And yes, I have read signature in the cell when it came out and loved it for one specific reason, the link between 'mind and specified information'. I never really was able to think otherwise since then. 😇

  • @yuliasergeevna2310
    @yuliasergeevna2310 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thank you dr Meyer for all your hard work and standing firm for the truth

  • @speedoflight9005
    @speedoflight9005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great, Stephen. Thank you for your work to know more on this deep subject.

  • @smtalukder8238
    @smtalukder8238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brief but thought provoking. This should’ve been started much earlier. Waitin’ for the next class Steve.

  • @pattieasterday6739
    @pattieasterday6739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this instruction Stephen. Looking forward to further discussions and your newest publication.

  • @seriouslythough603
    @seriouslythough603 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for publishing these online. Looking forward to watching them.

  • @oliviaoreilly4645
    @oliviaoreilly4645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Truth is Truth and ID is truth and atheist will never except an Intelligent Designer, they would rather live in darkness

  • @deuxpomme9777
    @deuxpomme9777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Mr Meyer for your lectures!

  • @HappyBoyProductions
    @HappyBoyProductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m so looking forward to this lecture series. Signature in the Cell is a fantastic read..

  • @spalding1968
    @spalding1968 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great lecture Stephen . Glad to support this work just to allow alternative views to be heard .

  • @gerard8149
    @gerard8149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A clear and articulate lecture. Very insightful.

  • @robmckay5421
    @robmckay5421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am persuaded by your talk that ID is the best explanation of our origins.

  • @jillbroman5246
    @jillbroman5246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have inspired me to learn in my old age. Thank you so much! I love Discovery Science!!

  • @alanburton6368
    @alanburton6368 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Courage to Be. Bravo Dr. Meyer

  • @robertlaabs5066
    @robertlaabs5066 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am thankful for the Courage of men like Stephen Myers and others for their willingness not to cower to the powerful forces that oppose them. Revelation 21 states that the cowardly will have their place in the Lake of Fire.

  • @azareelperezzapata2433
    @azareelperezzapata2433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thx teacher 😎. I have been seen your conferences, and they are really edificating. God bless you.

  • @therealagent4764
    @therealagent4764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Looking forward to the series. Just a note, the audio is not clear.

  • @mighty_monkey_7347
    @mighty_monkey_7347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your work on this topic...

  • @johnbrown4568
    @johnbrown4568 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dr. Meyer,
    Thank you for your courageous work as an objective scientist.

  • @treverwebb193
    @treverwebb193 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The mathematical impossibilities of evolution by random mutations is something that scientists are going to have to come to grips with in the coming years. They will have to ignore basic math to cling to Darwinism.

  • @ernestimken5846
    @ernestimken5846 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr. Meyer is one of the brave scientists to challenge evolution as a random process.

  • @sonofdougal
    @sonofdougal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this video!

  • @Markoul11
    @Markoul11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    hahahaa! When a theory becomes a religion and fanatics. Darwinism.

    • @marveloussoftware1417
      @marveloussoftware1417 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL, I can tell you're a religious zealot ignorant of science. Thank you for your admission.
      1) There's no such thing as darwinism, that is a word made up by those of weak faith.
      2) The theory of evolution was devised 100s of years before Darwin was born. Those of science ignorance attribute it to Darwin.
      3) evolution is not a belief, it is a conclusion based off of the evidence unlike religion which has ZERO evidence.

  • @trinacorbett4827
    @trinacorbett4827 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you ... Stephen Meyer, your work is amazing. You really have made the truth known. What men think is not as important as what the most intelligent mind thinks.

  • @periodictableofhistory116
    @periodictableofhistory116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It is really the powerful against those that have less. Two religions are clashing - evolutionism and creationism. The truth is - one of them is so full of pride it can't admit - it is a religion.

  • @PostcolonialStudiesInstitute
    @PostcolonialStudiesInstitute 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking forward to it, dear. Admire your work a lot.

  • @jasonstclair1329
    @jasonstclair1329 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is great 👍 their evil ways need to be exposed!!!! Thank you for your work .

  • @SpongeBobImagination
    @SpongeBobImagination 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent!

  • @SuperLeonti
    @SuperLeonti 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great Steven!

  • @JackReacher340
    @JackReacher340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Darwin's doubt is one of the best books I have read.

  • @supersmart671
    @supersmart671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant!!

  • @ericgreen6182
    @ericgreen6182 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this brother...good work.

  • @CopticCitzen
    @CopticCitzen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just THANK YOU

  • @addersrinseandclean
    @addersrinseandclean 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep up the good work Stephen

  • @riru363
    @riru363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice course!!

  • @MathPhilosophyLab
    @MathPhilosophyLab 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @user-bf3sl5xy5o
    @user-bf3sl5xy5o 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God bless this man.

  • @sueb1881
    @sueb1881 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your books should be in all public schools libraries since books on darwinism are most certainly there.

  • @graystone2007
    @graystone2007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Please keep up, your logical explanation and scientific approach are with no doubt the most powerful evidence for the theory of intelligent design

  • @EmeraldRainbowGLORY
    @EmeraldRainbowGLORY ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this.From a grateful homeschool mom!

  • @mikegodfrey2221
    @mikegodfrey2221 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankyou Dr Meyer :)

  • @kellyjohns6612
    @kellyjohns6612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved "Darwin's Doubt"
    A must read.

    • @Johnny-mz9ot
      @Johnny-mz9ot 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's on my shelf, finishing up "Signature in the Cell" 👍

  • @johnnowakowski4062
    @johnnowakowski4062 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good Stephen. Remember you only get the flack when you are over the target. ✌

  • @betawithbrett7068
    @betawithbrett7068 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it!!!

  • @MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC
    @MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is awesome! Those people lying to oppose your work are like little immature devious children having TANTRUMS out of their biases and fears instead of going after truth no-matter what the result. Their reactions are revealing. Keep on keeping on. :)

  • @freddygravy6753
    @freddygravy6753 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Superb.

  • @merlin5by533
    @merlin5by533 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's amazing to watch the intricate machinery of the RNA and DNA molecule, and the molecular motors of the most primitive bacteria, and to claim they developed FIRST in the chain of life, and literally billions of years ago. It's not just intelligent design, it's way way more intelligent design,. We can't build those micro machines now.

  • @johndena2882
    @johndena2882 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a very simplistic view based on observation, as a builder, even the simplest of structures require a designer/builder... Even the simplest of organisms in the natural world are far beyond the simplest of structures...

  • @vikingskuld
    @vikingskuld ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done video

  • @bugatifans
    @bugatifans 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    well done

  • @ghosthuntersnyc-upperwests2885
    @ghosthuntersnyc-upperwests2885 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    »Excellent work. - J.

  • @dustinmurphy82able
    @dustinmurphy82able ปีที่แล้ว

    Learned of this man from Dr Chuck Missler. Another beautiful mind.

  • @solemnexistence3526
    @solemnexistence3526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sternberg and Bechly fit the definition:
    stal·wart
    /ˈstôlwərt/
    adjective
    loyal, reliable, and hardworking.
    "he remained a stalwart supporter of the cause"

  • @wesmay2054
    @wesmay2054 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stephen Meyer is right because the TRUTH is right. Our Father is making sure that the TRUTH will come out. "The nations will have to know that I am the LORD". God bless your work Dr. Meyer.

  • @itszomboy3726
    @itszomboy3726 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The more I examine the universe and the details of its architecture, the more evidence I find that the universe in some sense must have known we were coming.
    -Freeman Dyson

  • @saadiahbintiabdulmanaphali5011
    @saadiahbintiabdulmanaphali5011 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely agree with the Intelligent Design!!

  • @khadermatarieh2713
    @khadermatarieh2713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so convincing

  • @revelationtrain7518
    @revelationtrain7518 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go get them Stephen

  • @mistahaych9552
    @mistahaych9552 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im a Muslim but i really respect your work and efforts - Stephen meyer

  • @Bukiroboti
    @Bukiroboti 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will you guys upload all the lectures here?

    • @DiscoveryScienceChannel
      @DiscoveryScienceChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, they are available as an online course at www.discoveryu.org/courses/meyer. However, over time, we may post some of the other lectures here, but not for a while.

  • @lizicadumitru9683
    @lizicadumitru9683 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are there anymore of these lectures?
    Edit: I see this was just recently posted..oops 😁

  • @NilsFredrikGjerull
    @NilsFredrikGjerull 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The fact that the opponents to intelligent design resort to rage and academic bulling tactics I take as evidence against the theory they try to protect. If the case for the theory is so good why not just state it clearly, and be honest about the reach and possible limitations of the theory? The way that intelligent design is presented in this channel I find understandable and compelling. This is unlike the impression I get from proponents of neo-darwinian evolution. There I am asked to almost take it by faith in the authority of the experts. They have knowledge not accessible to simpletons like me, and like to throw around academic jargon to strengthen that impression. Some tries to make complex subject comprehensible, others tries to make simple subjects sound incomprehensible for the people outside the select group.

  • @saadiahbintiabdulmanaphali5011
    @saadiahbintiabdulmanaphali5011 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is part 2 lecture? Anybody Know?

  • @ishmamadnan4797
    @ishmamadnan4797 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this the course? Will all the videos be uploaded here?

    • @DiscoveryScienceChannel
      @DiscoveryScienceChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is the first lecture in the course. For more about the complete course visit www.discoveryu.org/courses/meyer.

  • @jeffgallagher7687
    @jeffgallagher7687 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you looked to the criteria being used n the search for intelligent extraterrestrial life movement as to what represents noise and what represents evidence of intelligence? They must have some criteria. How does the code in dna rank on those criteria?

  • @MistoryChannel
    @MistoryChannel ปีที่แล้ว

    Doing a Google search on alternative theories to evolution I can notice that there is very little information provided, there is really a lot of censure.

  • @ronaldoramunno2586
    @ronaldoramunno2586 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great

  • @xyz4469
    @xyz4469 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please work on the sound. It is dull and bassy. Thank you for this lecture. The tide is thankfully turning towards intelligent design. We were oppressed by unlogical and unsientific evolutionistic ideas long enough. I read "Herkunft und Zukunft des Menschen" (~Origin and Future of Mankind) from A. E. Wilder-Smith in the 1990th and since then knew that Intelligent Design is more reasonable than Evolution.

  • @michaelgonzalez9058
    @michaelgonzalez9058 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's not just DNA it's also the body

  • @JamesKing2understandinglife
    @JamesKing2understandinglife 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Intelligent design of life is readily apparent by many microscopic scientific studies. Making the leap of explaining the intelligent design of the universe and scientific laws and theories is not easy to show difinitive scientific facts and more conjecture.

  • @isitfair2482
    @isitfair2482 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Indeed! There is a intelligent design.

  • @ritikkumarjain2094
    @ritikkumarjain2094 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love from India.

  • @OmarBarends
    @OmarBarends ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Dr Stephen Meyer . I love those whom he loves and those who love him . I pray that ALLAH declares HIS love for him , ameen .

  • @datchet11
    @datchet11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When we walk with the Lord
    in the light of his word,
    what a glory he sheds on our way!
    While we do his good will,
    he abides with us still,
    and with all who will trust and obey.
    Trust and obey, for there's no other way
    to be happy in Jesus, but to trust and obey.
    2. Not a burden we bear,
    not a sorrow we share,
    but our toil he doth richly repay;
    not a grief or a loss,
    not a frown or a cross,
    but is blest if we trust and obey.
    3 .But we never can prove
    the delights of his love
    until all on the altar we lay;
    for the favor he shows,
    for the joy he bestows,
    are for them who will trust and obey.
    4. Then in fellowship sweet
    we will sit at his feet,
    or we'll walk by his side in the way;
    what he says we will do,
    where he sends we will go;
    never fear, only trust and obey.

  • @korykent5645
    @korykent5645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please release your book sooner, I can't wait another year ☹️☹️☹️

  • @omarelghoul9256
    @omarelghoul9256 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Indeed we will show them our sines in the horizons and in themselves. Until trueth is clear to them. Qouran

  • @terrytannatt2656
    @terrytannatt2656 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Use to not like this guy till my eyes turned on (Long time for that cuz I'm 72). I saw that intelligence & consciousness seems to be built into the universe from the quantum level up. I'm not sure I believe in religion Gods but I do feel there is a CNO (Chief 'Ngineering Officer), that could be called God if you want, for the universe. The clues are many & the execution is deep & very mysterious but none the less it looks very real. My mind is much calmer & accepting after leaving the hard atheist camp. Blessing to all (even hard atheists).

    • @GustAdlph
      @GustAdlph 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Terry for pointing out a CNO!

    • @RenatasSam
      @RenatasSam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think I know why people don't like intelligent design theory, because it leads us to a Designer . And if we, imperfect people, seeking justice, truth and reason i our lifes existence, eventually at some point, we will have to give an account to This Designer. That's why we are trying to suppress this feeling deep down in our hearts.

    • @MisterShnig
      @MisterShnig 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The characteristics that the Intelligent Designer reveals align with those of the Christian God (transcends space, time and matter - is eternal and spiritual - and is personal - because the being had to make the choice to create - seemingly of great intelligence - omniscient - seemingly omnipotent - to create time, matter, space, etc.), so that's why many end up being Christians because of it.

    • @patty5266
      @patty5266 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very inspiring!

  • @nicolassbrown9881
    @nicolassbrown9881 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There is both material and immaterial (or physical and metaphysical) existence in the cosmos. Arguments for this reality are expounded in the Creationary Synthesis - an alternative to Darwinian evolution.

  • @iainrae6159
    @iainrae6159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So who or what is the being who 'intelligently designed' the Universe and what was this beings motive for doing do ?
    This is a question known as the 'Mc Dougal conundrum' and has yet to be answered.

  • @moses777exodus
    @moses777exodus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A statistical impossibility is defined as _“a probability that is so low as to not be worthy of mentioning. Sometimes it is quoted as 1/10^50 although the cutoff is inherently arbitrary. Although not truly impossible the probability is low enough so as to not bear mention in a Rational, Reasonable argument."_ (*The probability of finding one particular atom out of all of the atoms in the universe has been estimated to be 1/10^80.) The probability of a functional 150 amino acid protein chain forming by chance is 1/10^164. It has been calculated that the probability of DNA forming by chance is 1/10^119,000. The probability of random chance protein-protein linkages in a cell is 1/10^79,000,000,000. Based on just these three cellular components, it would be far more *Rational and Reasonable* to conclude that the cell was not formed by undirected random natural processes. Note: Abiogenesis Hypothesis posits that undirected random natural processes, i.e. random chance formation, of molecules led to living organisms. Natural selection has no effect on individual atoms and molecules on the micro scale in a prebiotic environment. (*For reference, peptides/proteins can vary in size from 3 amino acid chains to 34,000 amino acid chains. Some scientists consider 300-400 amino acid protein chains to be the average size. There are 42,000,000 protein molecules in just one (1) simple cell, each protein requiring precise assembly. There are approx. 30,000,000,000,000 cells in the human body.)
    A "Miracle" is considered to be an event with a probability of occurrence of 1/10^6. Abiogenesis, RNA World Hypothesis, and Multiverse would all far, far, far exceed any "Miracle". Yet, these extremely irrational and unreasonable hypotheses are what many of the world’s top scientists _‘must’_ believe in and promote because of a prior commitment to a strictly arbitrary, subjective, materialistic ideology / worldview. Every idea, number, concept, thought, theory, mathematical equation, abstraction, qualia, etc. existing within and expressed by anyone is "Immaterial" or "Non-material".
    The very idea or concept of "Materialism" is an immaterial entity and by it's own definition does not exist. Modern science seems to be stuck in archaic subjective ideologies that have inadequately attempted to define the "nature of reality" or the "reality of nature" for millenia. A Paradigm Shift in ‘Science’ is needed for humanity to advance. A major part of this Science Paradigm Shift would be the formal acknowledgment by the scientific community of the existence of "Immaterial" or "Non-material" entities as verified and confirmed by discoveries in Quantum Physics.

  • @dinowilfreddegracia9238
    @dinowilfreddegracia9238 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I buy these books and be shipped to my country Philippines?

  • @budt525
    @budt525 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Truth remains truth no matter what you believe and your perception of it has zero effect on it. Search for truth while you are alive because when you are dead all opportunity comes to an end. In death you will find truth but it may not be what you thought it was.

  • @hockeycowboy10
    @hockeycowboy10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At about 5:15 in the video, Dr. Meyer asks 'Why so much controversy?' Simply put, because Revelation 12:9b ('misleading') & 1 John 5:19 are right on! Nothing Biblical is popular today, especially sexual constraints.