100 Episodes of PB - Army Painter Fanatic Warpaints TESTED
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ธ.ค. 2023
- This week Casey and Brent we talk about miniature painting, 3d printing, hobby products, and a bunch of nonsense that makes hobbying more fun!
100 Episodes in and we are feeling pretty good, thank you all for joining us and hanging out, see you for the next 100 :)
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Hey Casey and Brent! First time I'm catching the podcast (was looking for Fanatic stuff). After the remarks about the nasty comments on Brent's speedpaint video, I wanted to leave a comment *thanking* Brent for getting me into this hobby.
I used to build model airplanes and paint them as a kid with my dad (Testor's enamel in the glass bottles!). Back in 2019/2020, I came across Brent's video on getting started painting where he painted those barbarians and just showed basecoating, adding a wash, and some highlights. I was already getting back into D&D, and your vid gave me the motivation to out and buy a set of paints and start painting, which brings me to...
The set I got was the Army Painter D&D "Adventurer's Set", which also came with a mini, brush, and a video tutorial on how to paint the mini. I was amazed with how well it came out, and I've been hooked ever since. I almost have exclusively ~100 Army Painter paints, mostly due to availability around here, and am looking forward to Fanatic so I don't have to fight some of the colors as much. I'm not into Wargaming, but I really appreciate any of your videos on paints and painting, and also how most of your videos feel like they keep the "beginner" in mind, even if that's not the primary audience (as someone who gets to paint maybe every other weekend, I still feel like a beginner). Maybe a video on getting into airbrushing (with a "quiet" compressor)? Anyway, thanks again!
Hahaha, i saw the thumbnail and thought nothing of it. I m german and i didn t notice it until i saw the comments. Usually i m pretty jumpy with this topic, but the presence of Brent makes this a save space for me. And here i can take a joke like that
That's going on a t-shirt "2024, I know why it smells like fish" 😂
The whole reactivation thing was blown out of proportion tbh. Still love your content, Brent!
I totally agree, every hobby tool has its strengths and weaknesses. I'm going to keep on using my Speedpaint 1.0 set until the bottles go empty.
I like the reactivation for a lot of things, it's just a property of a tool and it just adds options to my toolbox
I bought their old set when they put it at half price. At two dollar USD that is an amazing price.
The paint isn’t bad at all. Me and my kid have already gone through and used 90% of the colors. And emptied, at least five bottles. And we still have a couple months to wait for the Fanatic full set to come in.
Definitely not rich, especially after buying the full set. But as soon as I have this paid off, I’m going back and filling up some gaps in my pro acril and solvent paints.
Painting is all I do. There is absolutely no way any kid should be upset with getting the old war paints even at regular price. The only thing that will upset them is you telling them the bee ones are better.
My kid just makes it work. They find a paint that just doesn’t seem to work they’re like ‘oh I’m gonna set this to the side for another project.’ They’re not disappointed they just learned a fact, and found a solution immediately. Kids are just amazing. My first thought is where on my gigantic wall of paint am I gonna find a replacement lol.
No reason to get fancy. I love what you guys talk about and I don't want you to ever change. I tune in every couple weeks and there's no sign of that stopping.
I still use my Warpaints! Love using them when not using my Apple Barrel. I also have a decent amount of Vallejo that I use regularly. Just a matter of learning how they react to each type of painting.
I do love my Apple Barrel
I think if you use a higher quality resin for printing, you can avoid most of the shrinkage / gap issues. I've had very little problem printing and assembling some of the larger OPR Alien Hives creatures.
about 3d printing 25mm models as someone who only prints due to financial reasons, 25mm truescale is HORRID to print. I much prefer the chonkier prints that look a bit goofy at first but get better with paint and whatnot because they just won't break under duress like all of the stuff that I get from "historical" or "modern" prints. if you wanna try to look at this from a "pure" angle, look at turnbase miniatures' stuff which is cool and detailed but spindly, vs anvil industries' stuff which is chonkier while still being modern
i know i'm a day late and a dollar short on this comment, but Casey and Brent you guys both expressed interest in trying out Cuttlefish Colors this year at adepticon, I'll be at Creature Casters paint desk helping people understand the paints! make sure you both stop by!
Washington did not wear a wig, though he did powder his hair white. At the time it was very fashionable to shave your head and wear a wig, often powdered white
Glad to hear AP new stuff is looking good. I’m a big fan of speed paints. I love my 1.0 set personally. I have tons of pro acryl at this point in my life and I like the look of a one brand line up on my paint rack so I’ll probably skip this one but the new color triad system sounds super cool. I want to know more about how they airbrush as that’s one huge thing about pro acryl I really like. Pro acryl is great for air and paint brush
Congrats on 100! I look forward to many more. I've been a mini painter/D&D player for decades and this year I'm finally taking my first steps into Warhammer. I feel you guys deserve part of the credit/blame 😆
Today's conversation was very refreshing to hear that other hobbyists are running into the same pain points with 3d printing files as I do. It feels like some sculptors do a good job of taking into account the final model's size and materials and trying to make them less fragile and more paintable. Other sculptors go for what looks great blown up on your computer screen, but the final model might not even survive support removal because it's too fragile, or else it's cluttered with way too many details and textures for the size of the model. A level of texture and detail that looks good at 75mm+ doesn't necessarily work well at 32mm or 28mm.
Keep hobbying on, and thanks for all the great videos!
FTR, I also use a RedGrass palette and I don't have smell problem. But each time I finish a sheet, I wash the sponge by hand with a couple drops of dish soap. I also keep a "rewetting" bottle by it, which is a dollar store condiment squeeze bottle, filled with water and a couple drops of dish soap.
Casey and Brent's faces in the thumbnail are hilarious.
Congratulations on the 100th episode, and Happy New Year to everyone.
2024: I know why it smells like fish. 😄😄😄
Pretty sure the smell is primarily from whatever solvants you would use in the acrylic medium
Congratulations on 100 glorious conversations. Just perfect content
One of my favorite podcasts. Thanks guys!
The O.G. GW: no wig, but wig powder made it white. Low ponytail called a ‘queue’
Purrrfect settings in 3d printing large model of cats
Brent, I wondered why my computer was making that weird noise and finally looked over and realized your mic was picking up your cat's purring! 😂
Listening in my car earlier, I thought I had bad shocks or something.
Oh man! Such good kitty purrs!
I've been with you since the start. I didn't listen to all of the episodes but a good like 70% or so. I love this podcast, keep doing what you doing and congrats to a 100. Also am really looking forward to koboldtalk #3
I love Mantic's rats, both for space and fantasy. Been kitbashing them for a Skaven-force.
My red grass wet pallet also smells! I initially thought it was the sponge that needed replacement, but that didn’t solve the problem.
So I assumed mold in the plastic. I cleaned the entire pallet (top and bottom) first with IPA, rinsed it, still smelled. I even used a tooth brush to make sure I cleaned every nook and cranny.
Next I cleaned it all with bleach, rinsed it, still smelled. Upon final examination I’ve discovered that the only actual smelly part is the plastic seal material on the lid of the pallet. Don’t know what’s causing the smell, but if you do, Brett, please let me know! Maybe something with the material of the seal?
I am not sure if I am a fan of the 6 triad system or any triad system. Generally, you want to go from warm shadows to cool highlights or cool shadows to warm highlights about 1/12 to all the way up to 1/2 rotation of the color wheel away. The AP Finatic only changes the value from what I can see. Also it wouldn't be too much to ask for someone to mix the in-between colors rather than grab something already premixed. You only need 5 colors generally to make almost any color, having more colors than that is just convince. Granted I dabbled in oil painting miniatures for a while so maybe I am used to mixing colors.
I have one small request: please add bookmarks, to seperate topics. Iguana, christmas gifted base, aemy painter... for people who just want to see that topic and not watch the whole video. I love both your channels!
Glad to catch this! I've been very interested by everything that I've seen about these new paints, and I'm hoping to test some out myself this coming year.
Warping is largely an issue of support density. Continuous supports are the ultimate solution.
Hey, those large prints. Instead of doing all that with miliput, get yourself some Aves epoxy sculpt. It's a two part, air dry putty. It smooths with water (thought they do have a solvent that works a bit better). Gives you an hour or two of working time. You can tool it, and sculpt in details.
I do full sized models, so I am used to dealing with issues like this on things like 2' tall resin casts. I use Aves all the time. It work great for situations like you have.
Aves _Apoxie_ Sculpt for those googling this. It's on my list to try.
Just appreciate that 35 seconds into the podcast Brent has to pull an Anchorman and take a giant slug of scotch to set the tone. (J/k)
Seriously though, love the content and here is to the next 100 episodes!
Leave a couple of teabags in the container. They can sometimes be effective in removing unwanted smells.
Thar's a happy kitty!
For what I use speed paints for, the 1.0 paint is amazing! I love the reactivation for blending and making the great effects such as muzzle burn and such on minis!
I have had a relatively positive experience with warpaints they allow you to practice the fundamentals and build good habits then you can replace when you run out of them. Just means they have to pain A LOT.
Yes please stay who you are and believe in yourself, never give up and kudos for putting this awesome quality content out.
I may say “trying to be more professional (for what?)” could also translate to “sell more of your soul and change for the sake of money”
Peace y’all
Congratulations to 100 episodes and here is to another hundred!
As a fellow December birthday combo present sufferer, I feel your pain!
Congratulations on 100 fellers, also u can use superglue gel to pretty effectively fill gaps in big prints
I'm considering buying the full range and upgrading my current set of warpaints + others but I'm not sure I have the fortitude to spend that much all at once on paint.
Congrats on 100!
damn you can do a crazy Austrian painter cosplay, based on that thumbnail 😂
Congratulations on making it to the 100th episode milestone 🎉🎉
My first paint set was the army painter dwarf paint set, but I also mixed them with reaper paints so I didn't often see the issue with the coverage of AP's yellows and reds. Though my current work horses are Vallejo and Pro Acryl I'm willing to pick up AP's red-browns and browns for all the leather straps or jackets miniatures have on them.
Thanks for the first 100. I hope for more.
You guys made it to 100, congrats!
Cool as always. 🥳 Happy New Year
100 more please!
My only concern with 3D printed resin is the layer lines. They are SO CLOSE to being amazing but I feel like the layer lines always show, even on the super high resolution models. Mostly on the flatter surface or gentle slopes like a space marine pauldron. As painters, how close are we to getting 3D prints that have the same surface finish as cast resin or injection molded models?
Check your settings to make sure you're printing with thin layers. I see layers when printing on a Mars 3 (4k screen) with 50um layers, but I cannot see any layers even on pauldrons when printing at 20um.
Also, things like surface area, printing angle, and temperature will cause more prominent lines. I found out my space heater was causing lines, and the models came out prestine when I changed to use a brewing heating belt instead.
Congrats on the episodes lads. Been along on with the ride from the start, always enjoyable. Cheers from the far off South of Oz 👍
cheers!! 🙂
Always good mate :)
I'd like to request Relicblade minis in the Fanatic reviews.
Casey I feel you on the holiday birthday. My birthday is the first week of January lol
Meant to post this a few episodes back...
But in the never-ending-side-quest for Kobolds, have either of you checked out ArcWorlde by Warp Miniatures Kobold collection on MMF? .... I picked up the Goon Master Games Kobolds after one of Brent's videos... but just stumbled on the ArcWorlde stuff and thought of you all!
Happy New Year and have you seen my candle?
Printer gaps is definitely a problem. Sometimes it can be the presupported files dont have enough supports to prevent wapring. Resin choice is a major factor for warpage. The knowledge base behind what resin has low warping, what is consistent, and what is good for miniatures is lacking. I use Prozen 4K because it has some flex and doesn't warp that much, but resin is expensive to just try every single kind that is out there and I prefer to stick to what works for me.
OMG, just found this and love it :D
Love the name too, I always said Brent is the hobby version of Bob Ross.
53:55 I use mostly army painter and GW paint and my wet pallette has a latent funk to it that has just sorta seeped into the plastic at this point. Reminds me of art class.
congrats on the 100 :-)
I needed a bright yellow so I bought AP's Babe Blonde about 6 months ago and it is SOOOOOO BAAAAD! I haven't bought AP paint since because I felt so ripped off by that goddamned paint
Hehehehe, I'm using that exact color as a comparison in an upcoming video... it's... legendarily bad.
😳 That's a crying shame. That yellow came with the AP dwarf paint set I bought a few years back when I was first dipping my toes into the hobby. Yellow is a notoriously translucent color, right?
Not sure where I found it but i have used super glue and baby powder to fill in gaps in my resin prints.
Gosh, it feels completely strange from my point of view to get "hyped" about paint... and I've never really looked forward to paint before but I'm looking forward to these fanatic paints.
What kind of finish do they have, more matte or more satin?
Brent use 3d printer resin and a uv light to fill the gaps on large 3d prints
I'm gonna get so much resin on my fingers... but I will try 🙂
@@GoobertownHobbies a junk brush and some gloves, be careful B)
You both have a van?
Wow, hard to believe Casey shunned the Huge Miniatures folks like that.
hugeminis.com/product/green-teal-multicolor-paint/
Do you think getting the army painter air set still worth it? Should I go for mega or complete? I do live in a country where AP isn't available locally
The medium used in the paint is the worst smelling. Citadel Contrast paints are notoriously smelly - and they have more medium than the regular paints. And yes, I have the same thing where my wet palette smells like that burnt-rubber-like smell.
I have one particularly old pot of Devlan Mud and it is SO horrid it makes whatever box or container it’s stored in reek. If it wasn’t an out of production classic, I’d have thrown it away long ago because it just smells dangerous to be around on my desk!
Why did you have to make that joke about the "last person to buy the old war paints"... Don't get me wrong it was a funny bit, and as per usual Brent's sarcasm sold the gag well... but then just this weekend my best friend calls me up all excited "I'm following in your mini painting ways for my DnD game! I even went and bought this starter set of paints from a company called Army Painter". The whole bit replays in my head, but now in a tragic echoing flashback... thankfully I got to him before he shook most of them (sadly he out of excitement seeing the mixer balls for the first time shook up the first one he picked up) so hopefully he can drain the ketchup water successfully.
If it’s a 12 year old getting their first paint set then who cares. They’ll be fine and any paint is better than no paint. As long as some helpful hobby friends tell them how to “squirt out the ketchup water” then they’ll be just fine from that point forward.
Here’s to another 100 episodes hanging with my hobby bros!
The old Army Painter Warpaints are still useable. Yes, there are definitely ones that make me angry and wonder why they were made. But others work fine. I'm really looking forward to the new Fanatic line and am trying not to go and pre-purchase the entire thing.
Having ruined a commission piece from the reactivation I'm a little annoyed at how everyone seems to be downplaying it so much
I wonder how many "umm" "like" and "ahh" are in those 100 episodes?
Uhhhh, Happy New Year to you too! :-)
Late to the party here but I just wanted to point out that Brent's work with his microscope and learning about aluminum vs mica flakes, and the average hobbyist opinion (not correctly) of one material being high quality and the other lower quality, points out an issue with mini painters: not understanding their tools. Maybe because they don't necessarily view themselves as artists, or are playing catch up in understanding materials compared to other art forms, but it reflects in what the collective seems to need/want out of products. We get upset when a gold metallic doesn't one coat over black when really it should be going over another colour such as brown or tan. Collectively we have a hard time valuing some properties and therefor have a hard-time applying these properties "appropriately". It really is a big part of what separates high level painters from everyone else. So companies, when creating products, are forced to thread the line between people that don't really care about painting and just want to play and the people that really care about painting as an artistic expression. In other art forms knowing the pigment composition matters to many people, in mini painting we could give a flip less... which can be very liberating.
I have printed 6mm with guns with hollow barrel tips.
Wow this guy is insane, sorry Brett but this guy needs help.
Scale 75 defenitely smell really bad over night, completely different than other paints
I am always surprised when you say army painter is the wide spread range of paints. Here in Bavaria you can't throw a stone without hitting the spanish brands, vallejo scale and AK, they are everywhere
Am I the only one who thinks Casey is looking a little "Hitler-y" in that thumbnail? 😳
I think it's the shadow under his nose that looks like a 'stache. 😆
The undercut had a moment a few years back. I'm waiting for the Casey mullet, but he'll always be a handsome devil to me. 🙂
I've said it under some other video of you guys already but ArmyPainter Paints where the first paints i got when i entered the hobby. We purchased the Mega Paint set and I was struggling with those colors a lot from the get go but because I had no experience with painting I kept trying to figure it out and couldnt make those paints work out. I was shaking them and I was putting steel balls in them to mix them up but they were just awful. I didn't know it was the paint that was bad because people like you guys kept saying that brand doesn't matter and that all paints do the same thing just differently. It almost made me quit the hobby. Luckily I got some Vallejo and it opened my eyes for just how awful the AP paints where. It's literally night and day. AP Warpaints up until now are just AWFUL paints no one should buy them really. i wonder how many people got AP paints for their first paint, thought they were just bad at painting because they couldnt figure them out and then quit the hobby. Not zero I imagine.
Thumbnails making me a little uncomfortable lately guys, I think you are sending signals to the wrong group of people. I get that you're just goofing around but I just didn't find it very funny.