Apparently The Tetris Killscreen Was Done Before
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- We all saw the story of the 13 year old who worked really hard to learn new skills, play competitively, and record/livestream his greatest achievement ever. But has anyone ever stopped to consider the random Facebook commenter with no proof as an alternative?
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Pretty unbelievable that two randoms with no proof were able to pull this feat off without even knowing about the methods to do it with. Just goes to show you there’s nothing new under the sun.
Just so you know, I beat Tetris many times. All you have to do is pull the cart out mid game. Boom. Killscreen.
In retrospect it all seems so simple
It’s very easy I’ve done 69420 times all you have to do is get to the kill screen that’s it simply
Lol I beat the nes and the Gameboy version simultaneously each with one hand.
i beat it with my telekinesis powers@@itsasecrettoeverybody
I once beat the game so hard a message popped up on the screen saying "Step away from the screen. Go outside. Get some fresh air. Beating TETRIS is not a life goal." Had a picture of a miserable old woman.
Great one
And that would be a hella of an Easter Egg if that was ever real
The developers should add that, I guess
can't believe people are defending her. "get off the screen" says the one who advertises her embarrassing mother views in front of people who addict to screens and addict them to screens even more.
without the last 15-20 seconds of this video, I think a lot of people wouldn’t have gotten the joke
Which isn’t good because the average watch time on this 4 minute video is 1 minute 55 seconds
I got got for a bit, but it's a funny video when watching the whole thing
Thanks! I do my best to
That should say “make a good video” but I’ll let y’all fill in the blank
Yea I was this close to just going apeshit on these random unsubstantiated claims but something told me to wait this one out.
Just want to clarify what triggers the kill screen and why the AI got to such a higher level. The kill screen trigger is actually dependent on the number of lines cleared at very precise scores. The 13 yr old kid actually missed the first kill screen because he cleared three lines at that score when it should have been only one line. He triggered the kill screen at the next scoring opportunity though. The AI was able to reach level 255 because it was programmed to go for “tetrises” (clearing the maximum of 4 lines at once) whenever possible. Since the AI was continually playing the game perfectly, it bypassed all the kill screen triggers of one or two lines, and it was able to play all the way up to the maximum level (255 or “FF” in hexadecimal).
Also, I got the kill screen in 1986 and recorded it, but I lost the VHS tape.
As far as I know, Stack Rabbit was only able to get to level 237. The crash conditions beyond level 155 are a complicated mess that even playing perfectly will not protect against. It could crash from getting a Tetris on transitioning to the next level or placing a T piece without pushing down. Some levels have a 75% chance of crashing on a single or a double, the list goes on. Stack Rabbit was able to make it to 155 consistently and only got to 237 by being able to play 24/7 giving it plenty of chances to slip past most of the kill conditions. However, players have done tool assisted runs to place every piece perfectly in order to carefully navigate the maze to level 255 (hence why we have documentation on every crash condition along the way).
Thanks so much for the clarification! I wanted to highlight the brave heroes that did it first 30 years ago so I skipped over that stuff (also because I didn’t know how to explain it)
It’s called an integer overflow I believe, it basically runs round the clock and goes back to level zero. I know this because I completed NES Tetris using a game boy back in 1972. I used a Betamax video to run a basic AI and placed the bricks manually using a Lego interface I won’t bore you with the details but if anyone says they did it before the millennium without a lister Diesel engine I’d consider their claim to be fake.
@@EverydayTo100k the earliest attempt was actually stone henge
@@williamross6477 there are a few videos from EricICX (one of the best player in the world btw) and HydrantDude if you want the full details.
Those two people who "beat the game" probably got so enraged by it that they hit the console so hard, it crashed
This is how I beat Marvel Vs. Capcom 2
They do br talking shit when they have no proof at all
yee@@ovuvuevuevueenyetuenwuevue3896 also lol your name
who can "hit a console" that they didn't even touch?
I used to get the Tetris Killscreen by "rolling" the NES itself
I did this on my N64 to make Mario walk sideways
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I've seen so many casuals talk shit about how they did this before - I want all of them to pull up to any Tetris event to show their "skills".
We live in an age now where you either pull up or shut up.
Tournament of only people who say they’ve done it before
It’s like the ragequit lobby in street fighter
@@EverydayTo100k *Exactly, some will deliver and show their skills from back then and those with big mouth, who do the talk the talk but can't do the walk the walk will just fade into the shadow and gradually into obscurity.*
@@EverydayTo100k but have one guy there who's actually done it before
I think I remember beating the NES version of Tetris on a VCR while watching a toaster.
Wow! Looks like this is a really simple feat after all
“They had us in the first half not gonna lie” 💀💀💀
"I mashed the console with a sledgehammer because I couldn't make past level 4, that's just as impressive as tearing the game apart at level 157 of 29 levels expected a human could possibly do! " - rando, probably
The true kill screen 📺
I beat the tetris by throwing controller at the TV whole TV got freezed
One might say you killed the screen
All jokes aside I am sure somebody actually did beat it before him, but just did not care/thought it was a glitch or something along those lines.
And that person was me. I beat it back in the 90’s I have a picture around here somewhere
Now I am the one who has been got in the first half
nobody got there before, unless they literally had superhuman powers
@@EverydayTo100k 😂😂😂
Bro don't lie like these fools in Facebook
Cmon
Just to clarify, hypertapping was a technique from the 1980s. Thor Aackerlund was the first high level player to use it.
OH NICE!
Ah, the good old days. I remember playing Tetris with my old friends back in '83, and we all beat it once by doing a technique called "reach around". Not many people knew about it, but it was about one of us reaching around the controller and tapping it, similar to what kids these days call "rolling", while the player focuses on mashing as fast as posible. My friends and I always had fun doing the "reach around" to eachother, sometimes we even managed to do "reach arounds" between all four of us. Truly one of the times of all time
So is that what y'all called mast****tion...playing Tetris? We called it spanking the monkey (among other things).
I beat Tetris i.e. achieved the kill screen by yanking the cartridge right out of the NES mid game.
Whaaat, I achieved this feat while i was still in the womb 😂 I admittedly was kind of annoyed with most of the video until i came to the end. Ya got me!!
I just started playing in 1997. I got it second day while watching my mother being born
I beat it 37 1/2 times today. What are we talking about, again?
It’s like beating an armored core boss. Do it once and suddenly it’s really easy
The only thing you beat is your meat, constantly under the shower, actually
I BEAT TETRIS ON MY ATARI 2600 BACK IN THE 80s BUT I LOST MY 8mm CAMERA
I beat it twice while this video was playing, but in the past so that I did it first
This is how time works for us true achievers
That’s nothing. I beat it like 6 times in the 70s.
Haters will say time travel wasn’t discovered yet just like rolling “wasn’t discovered yet” 🙄
*Oh I beat the game as well, going all the way to level 255! Then, I woke up.* *So it's recorded somewhere in my brain.*
This is fantastic. I'm going to show this to Willis, I'm sure he will laugh haha
twice!?? i beat it thrice while sitting on my couch and watching skibidi toilet lore back in 1984
Bit and Bytes are related. There are 8 bits in 1 byte. knowing that is pretty important, at least back before fiber optic internet was so wide spread, are you paying for 21 mb/s bandwidth or are you being for 21 MB/s bandwidth? Megabits are abbreviated at, "mb," and megabytes are abbreviated as, "MB," so 21 MB/s is a heck of a lot faster than 21 mb/s.
Also when buying a hard drive or SSD, you have to be careful about the language used by the manufacturer. Some manufacturers try to make their device sound bigger than it is by rounding up, so the package might say that you have a 4 TB hard drive, but you get it installed only to find out that it's actually 4 trillion bytes which is not 4 TBs. Bits and bytes are counted in squares of 2, so a 4 TB drive would actually have 4,096,000,000,000 bytes if the manufacturer is actually counting the bytes the way they should.
Anyways, good video, I just wanted to educate you a little bit... On bit and bytes.
Thanks! I didn’t know all of this so it’s very educational. Hopefully more people read this comment too
@@EverydayTo100k in a little simpler terms:
In most of engineering people use the metric system, everything goes my thousands: 1,000 meters = 1 kilometer; 1,000 kilometers = 1 megameter, etc.
In Computer Science it similar, it's closest square of 2 without going under the 1,000, so 1 byte, 2 bytes, 4 bytes, 8 bytes, 16 bytes, 32 bytes, 64 bytes, 128 bytes, 256 bytes, 512 bytes, and finally 1,024 bytes to equal 1 kilobyte. So 1,024 bytes = 1 kilobyte; 1,024 kilobytes = 1 megabyte; 1,024 megabytes = 1 gigabyte; 1,024 gigabytes = 1 terabyte, and etc. to petabytes, exabytes, zettabytes, and yottabytes.
"Everthing you see and read is true" lmao. I was very annoyed at this video until the very end. 🤣🤣🤣
Glad you stuck through to the end. Many people get mad at all my videos because they don’t stick through
Definitely not the first. I crashed tetris in february of 1991. After a top out at level 7 I smashed the controller into my NES and the game froze. I'm currently in the process of restoring the videotape.
The fact that they said they commited the feat, 2 things, the integer count was at max, and he only did a single row, which means he beat tetris, by my understanding since his score was over the integer limit present in the game, the game had no idea what to do with it and crashes
Checks out for me
I think they were talking about Billy Mitchell. xDDDD
I have a VHS tape in my garage that shows me getting to the killscreen in 1989. I just haven't shown it to anybody yet.
My gran beat it several times, always thought it was weird because I asked her about it and she didn't seem to know what that "new fangled Tetris" was but who am I to dispute her claims?
Tetris has teached humanity that competition is the law of the jungle, but cooperation is the law of civilization.
You simply cannot "beat" Tetris. You have to cooperate with the game code to prevent any freezes, make it to level 255 (all red is so fitting) and then let the game reset to Level 0. This should be the ultimate goal. Whoever achieves this should be remembered forever. 😂
Nobody has made to the level 255
It may be the next approach in competitive side of Tetris, but for now all that was done was beating the game by making it crash, which was just done.
@@taeromann5929 He never said that someone HAD done it. His point was that the greatest achievement would be to cooperate with the game code to flip the game back to 0.
@@Iconoclast1919 yeah I know that would be the greatest achievement, but from what I was understanding of his comment, it seems as he believed somebody have already done that, so my bad for it
teached isn't a word.
@@gorkskoal9315 yes it is
It's the past form for teach
This was masterful. I hope more people see this.
It’s a long form video and more people than usual saw it!
Guys he's being sarcastic, know that before commenting
1:17 Heh heh heh... whatchu doing there, buddy?
😳
well played sir, well played
Hyppertaping already existed in 1980, used for the first time professionally by Thor Aackerlung, and later used by many players of Dragon Ball Budokkai Tenkaichi and Naruto Ultimate Ninja, in disputes over pressing the buttons, outside of Type games.
The technique was rediscovered but it has always existed. The world didn't begin when TH-cam was created (even though it's difficult to prove) and there are also other ways to stop the game before Lv 40, as some TAS videos show, So you can understand people's confusion and there are also those who played with turbo joysticks, and don't understand the rules of the competition. As you create content, you should know that this is a niche, few people know all the rules, so you can't judge meinstream based on what you know inside your bubble.
Furthermore, he was not the first to do this at such a high level, the Fractial player was the first and there is a video of him doing it on TH-cam! The world is not limited to what you know!
Also, these two guys on Facebook did it first before Fractial or anyone else really
@@EverydayTo100k ok. I understood. But anyway, your video is cool, I only commented because it irritates me so many people say that something that has always existed was created today.
But Facebook is really like that. I must have misunderstood you. Lay people who think they are experts in something they only discovered now. You're right about that, I understand your frustration.
Anybody can claim to have beaten the game, that is not proof.
Example:
*I beat NES Tetris the day it was released. Therefore, I was first.*
Can't prove me wrong, so it must be legit.
Holy moly this goes back further than I thought
That nose hair though.
Hilarious video though, love it!
I already recorded the video when I noticed :(
Thanks! I try it with all my videos
104 people didn't want to wait three minutes for a 20 second punchline. Neither did I, I just read comments.
This was pretty confusing to watch because neither your voice nor facial expressions made it clear you were joking. I think this broke my brain a bit lol.
I had to come to the comment section to realize this was sarcasm.
And now you get a heart for your efforts. Win-win!
How you'll truly beat the game is by getting to such a high level that there's no way around the crash
Dude, those guys aren't even the first. I was a playtester for the original NES Tetris and I beat it in 1988 when I was only 6 years old. I never said anything until now because I was under an NDA to not say anything but the NDA just happened to expire yesterday.
This must have been really frustrating, waiting 36 years just to have the title stolen a few weeks before
@@EverydayTo100k 😂
I beat it in 1776 in my Nintendo switch
beat it in the late 70s. had a crowd of 300 watching me do it but they've all passed away since. haven't touched the game since because i never thought it would be news worthy, now i'm just a sad 15 year old who is disappointed his feat was never publicly recognized. also what's a blue scooter
In fact, it was just obvious that one should say just that "he is the first to be recorded while 'beating' the game", but we can't be sure nobody did it before - before the era of live streaming and social media and all this c..p.
A bugless implementation without any explicit rule which states what the meaning of "winning" is (that is, what conditions make you the winner), would be unbeatable and could be played forever (if you forever succeed in having room for new pieces)
I dont by that article one bit since there needs to be a level for that person to get a kill screen on Tetris in order to BE the first plus that level need to be higher that the recent kills screen player did for this the BE the first.
Saw some people in the comments complaining/discussing the video so I'll leave yall with a timestamp:
3:10
I beat the game so bad the entire system overheated burned the house down back in 1971 !
Let’s not make Will be devastated for his entire life please
Yeah I beat it back in 97 when I was 18, no lie. I used the hammer technique (Rubber handle with steel hammer) on the NES when I kept losing and the screen just froze. So unfortunately the kid is not the first 😕
I knew he couldn't of been the first out of all of the people on earth.
Yeah, i beat that game on day one. First attemp.
Honestly with hypertapping its theoretically possible to crash the game as we have seen players reach very high score with it. Its probably more difficult than rolling but doesnt matter. We will never know of course but it wouldnt suprise me if a few of the hundreds of millions of people that played this game in the past few decades got themselves a technique to crash the game. Imagine if cheez was born in 1980, he would have "created" the rolling for himself and for his brother there was no twitch or youtube to celebrate it. And also back in the days i remember people being very secretive about their discoveries. I would never tell how to do a special combo in Mortal Kombat to any of my friends for exemple.
I think it would have come forward after about 20 years or so! Especially for such a popular game
I feel like he wouldn't have discovered rolling back then because he developed the technique partially by seeing other videos on youtube that demonstrated the button mashing techniques that inspired rolling.
I honestly dont know if it happened in the past but I'm just saying that it wouldn't schock me.
@@punchingplayerpenguin3291I feel like he wouldn’t have discovered it for the same reason nobody else did, they put it down once they got mario 😂
u know what, my grandfather beat tetris in 1990 by accident
If they ever "beat tetris" back then it prolly was one of those $5 standalone handhelds you could buy anywhere instead of the actual NES version.
"I said I beat the game. Doesn't matter what platform"
Sorce: Trust me bro!
I beat it by throwing my controller to the tv and boom there you have it the killscreen
Umm, this video is absolutely useless. This guy is believing someone else's statements of achievement without any proof, and '91 and '94 was before the hypertapping was even known. And then he concludes "it's tough breaks for the kid." How about we say it's tough breaks for the video poster for being an idiot?
Tough breaks are tough breaks
Thanks for the good laugh 🤣
You’re welcome!
I beat in my sleep once, too made i couldn't record it.
Not everything you see is true 3:33
True
at least 56 people missed the joke.
it's a joke about people making up claims that are impossible to verify to discredit some 13 year old kid who did his achievement on camera
If the rolling technic was invented in 2020 to pass level 29 and since the kill screen is happening long after level 29, which was never able to be passed or designed without figuring out that technic.
It would be imossible to have reached that kill screen in 1991 or 1994, so it's bs..
the technique was invented by a professional, there is no guarantee that someone else has already used it. It's like the Super Mario World glitch that kills the ghosts. it was discovered in 2019 but in the 90s many people already knew
Bits and Bytes are not the same... Luxor
Sooo we're gonna dismiss the kid who recorded his achievement, just because of what some random people claimed in their comments?
Well then, I solved the Riemann Hypothesis. I don't have it on tape, but… you know the drill :q
Ive beaten it everyday since 1994 too..... Hold on, what are we talking about here?
I could have sworn the same thing.I already seen this
It’s never been done before, except by millions of randoms on Facebook comment sections
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I’m from the planet Earth
@@EverydayTo100k 😆 Just posted your video. You should come by sometime. We're 24/7.
Thanks! I’ll be sure to check it out
@EverydayTo100k He watched your video on stream. Haha, he loves Tetris and your video popped up.
Good to know TH-cam is recommending to the right people!
bro, i made it to level 420 and all of a sudden the game turned into pac man. then i beat it pac man..... twice in one go.
the guy is lying without the proof
Can anyone now that the game has crashed twice at levels 155 and 157 will it be possible for anyone to beat the entire game by going all the way up to level 256 before the rebirth screen of Tetris?
I beat Tetris multiple times a day, I actually beat it once again while writing this comment
Sounds like Billy Mitchell asked you to make this.
Yeah I beat it twice too in 1988
I don't trust any of these lads on emulators I want to see it done on a nintendo
I beat it in 1976.
Let the kid have his day.
Don't. Ruin. His. Moment.
If you're not going to at least briefly explain hyper-tapping, why even make this video?
Pressing the buttons fast
Cool they _-beat-_ it
This is Hillarious only people thst can beat it think will be esport players
I beat tetris 1 time in 2020 by smashing the screen with a sledge hammer :D
If they have no evidence, I did not trust them, anyone can claim the same, technically freezing the game does counts as beating it, i mean, The end was surpassed and there is noting else to do.
I beat it on day of release and my hammer was unscathed🤣🤣🤣
ok
Of course 2 people did this before, obviously Billy Mitchel and Todd Rodgers XD
How? he probably didnt have hypertapping or rolling
any chance those 2 commenters were billie mitchell and todd rodgers? lmao
I beat it every day of my life. It's just when you record it, It's cursed.
It’s possible someone could have beaten it 30 years ago. We’ll never know.
I seriously doubt it. If someone were actually that good back then, I’d think he’d would somehow become known anyway. Or at least his technique for making it that far would be known.
I've seen this done on video before. How's he 1st?
Link the video! Or send me the VHS tape along with a self-addressed stamped envelope
No
Hah I like your sarcasm, but of course I beat it on gameboy. Got to level 43 with music B, felt like a bad choice but it works, music B all the way. wait or was it C..
I always go with C
please tell me this video is a joke
i spent 4 minutes on that bullshit
That’s almost the amount of time it took me to beat Tetris in 1992 blindfolded (my friend Jake was there, he will vouch for me)
I beat the game as well, I beat it with my truck. Do not actually own a truck. 🚛 🚒 😆
I’ve done this…back in the 90’s. I did it a lot, actually, and it wasn’t a big deal. I was a math nerd, especially geometry. It was annoying when the game crashed since there was a rumor of some big finale that I wanted to get. As for the delay between first hitting the buttons being longer than the drop time, everyone knew that the pieces would stick as soon as they landed if the pieces weren’t already rotating, so I would be smashing the buttons before the new pieces appeared while my brother would wait until the new piece showed at the top before starting to try rotating. I didn’t know about this delay. To me, it was simply getting ahead of the game. I just found out a couple hours ago that certain colors were also actually a glitch-I thought those were the result of reaching certain levels, that they were new colors unlocking.
I’m astonished that this is being seen as a big deal now, and am pretty pissed that this kid is being hailed as the FIRST EVER to crash the game, which simply isn’t true. Out of tens or hundreds of millions of players over nearly 4 decades, we’re supposed to believe no one EVER did this, or, if we did, we must have imagined it? I’ve actually seen comments saying if some of us really did it in the 90’s, where’s the proof? And some saying anyone who beat it would have gotten proof to share with the world.
Fuck that, that was when camcorders were still rare and, if you had internet, it was dial-up and 24baud, which is so slow that most internet games were all text because graphics took too long to download. There was no streaming. And cameras were film. And when we thought it was the game crashing, how were we supposed to know this would become such a big deal decades later and that we should have found some way to record it? We simply wouldn’t have.
There are some deeply personal reasons this matters to me and why I don’t appreciate being told now that my memory is wrong if I can’t produce proof. Being so good at this game that I crashed it was one of the few reliably bright spots in an otherwise very hard life, and being told it didn’t happen if I have no proof is gaslighting.
What people are calling hypertapping and such now were literally what was done back in the 90’s. We just didn’t have names for what we saw as just playing the goddamned game. There really was a time that existed before streaming everything to the internet. For fuck’s sake, people, none of this is new. It was just rediscovered and given names by dumbasses who connected with each other on the internet who can’t comprehend a time before modern tech being everywhere. My generation brought you all the internet and tech as you now know them-of course we were able to figure out how the fuck to crash Tetris.
Boo hoo
I should have waited to record my video until after you commented
If you could play at level 29 speed, which is possible with hypertapping, then there is no reason you couldn’t reach the final kill screen since the speed does not increase any further. So I’m not trying to discount YOUR experience, I have no reason to believe that you didn’t do it. But if people have been doing this for so long, it begs the question why it has never been documented. The internet has been around for decades now, TH-cam is going on 17 years. If people were doing it in the 90s, then people were certainly doing it in the 2000s and the 2010s, well into the years of online video and streaming and yet nobody did it. In fact, nobody posted anything going much past level 29 until the a few years ago. So, again, it is absolutely possible that what you claim is true, but it’s not unreasonable for people to question it and it’s also very exciting to finally have an occurrence documented on video.
@@williamross6477 most likely because no one cares, why upload it?
@@6pek9 Maybe because it would have completely shattered the official line, level and score world records many times over.
good video
Thanks! I make tons of em every day
all lies, i was the first.