Having your new team with you for a week has to be an eye opener for them. Hands on learning is great, and having them say they are going to be so much better than they were is exactly what you were striving for. Only the best couples are going to be Blue Ox endorsed. Thanks for posting this informative video.
I own a Grand Design Transcend XLS 200MK. Last April I took the factory tour of the Transcend production floor. Tour guide remarked several times about their strict unit pdi before it left the building. Well, here is what I saw. Starting with the Lippert frame, less than desirable weld beads on critical areas. Same goes with the spring shackles. No wonder they twist off. When stapling the flooring around the edge of the decking half the staples are protruding 1/4 inch above the floor. Imagine, the outer wall framing is going to mount on top of these protruding staples. Further down the line the pre fabricated lumber used to build the front bulkhead consists of a top and bottom that on some units fit good and some units were very subpar. Send it down the line. There were about 20 people on the tour. I kept noticing construction flaws in the outer walls as the tour progressed. I noticed a couple of times the guide looking over at me as I was looking things over closely. Send it down the line. As the line comes to the end and the vapor barrier and aluminum siding was attached my thoughts were, at the end of the assembly line you can pdi what is available to pdi. All of the construction flaws hidden between the interior walls and outside siding will not be fixed before leaving the plant. Nor will they be found by the dealer. The tour was a real eye opener for me. No wonder the first time I opened the a.c. vent above the bed with the a.c. running I got my eyes filled with saw dust. So the long of my post ends with this. If all rv manufactures are as haphazard in their construction as I witnessed in Grand Design, I'm not sure I will be in the market for any more.
Hey guys was just listening to the RV wingman, and you haven’t heard the latest episode about hiring an RV inspector. You really should go look at it. It should’ve been an infomercial for just how great you two are.
Love Frenchy's Maintenance Tips!! This stow n' go would be a deal-breaker for me (including the lame caulking, electrical wiring, cabinet latch issue - lack of attention to detail in the build).
Another great video! Hoping to buy one day, where are you located? I know you do travel but knowing where you are primarily would be a great area to shop for my RV knowing that you must be the ones to do the inspection for me!
Hi guys. Great to see you do an inspection in my area. I am very familiar with this particular dealership. I didn't realize that you did this area, I would have contacted you guys when I had purchased my new Alliance at a nearby dealership. Sorry to say we missed the chance to chat with you guys at the content creators corner at Hershey. However I believe that you caught us on video at the corner which later got put into ERV's video "RV Winners And Losers Of 2023 -- Who Is Coming Out On Top?". Keep doing what you do. Next time we won't pass up on a chance to chat with Blue Ox!
One of the better outcomes for your recent inspections. It is amazing how many showers leak. Even the shower in our coach leaked when we bought it in 2015.
😺Beautiful boxes on wheels, but where is the pride in the job of building them? You would think that every manufacturer would have their own “Laurel and Pierre” at the end of the line, and keeping everyone upstream tuned up! 🐿
There's no accountability. No rewards other than the volume of units moved...just like salespeople 🙂 Why would there be any proudness, there's no incentive. People still buy them without seeking Pierre and Laurel's inspection...why would they care 🤔
Yes, our independent inspection on our Momentum 395 ms-r was 100 pages long. So tired of the lack of quality despite their customer service being outstanding. Here is the thing though as we spoke about here in Hershey. It is all of the RV manufacturers. They all do this. If we get another rig one day, we are going to have you guys inspect it for us. I do believe our inspection was outstanding though. -Pete
These Huge RV Companies should bring in RV Inspectors to Inspect every unit before they go to the Dealerships. Save everyone including the Dealers Stress, Time and Money. Ridiculous that this was shipped with Shite Details..Get’m you guys!
J ‘adore vos videos . Prochaine fois que ma aller visiter des concessionnaires locaux , ma regarder pour des défaut a la imspection …Blue Ox on the Run ☺️👍
Great video guys. If the dealers would PDI the units when they arrive a lot of this could be avoided. They dont because sales charges service to do the PDI. This is insane and as you have found, could allow for a unit to sit with water damage for months, causing decking to need to be replaced. If the had PDI'ed they might have found the issue and fixed it before damage. Manufactures do need better quality control, but dealers are the ones really screwing people. Every dealer should have a qualified inspector on staff checking these units. Its warranty work so it cost nothing for the dealer to repair. Simple fact is dealers would rather save the PDI money and pass on a crap build to a customer to find the issues and take months to fix them.
The absolute lack of quality control is amazing. Like the electrical issues. I would consider that to be a safety item and should have at least one more set of eyes, maybe 2 and a written buy off record. Example the worker should have to sine off /stamp off he did the work. His supervisor should inspect it and sign it off then a shop inspector who can't be intimidated by shop supervisor should look at it and buy it off. They are stupid because it cost 3 times as much to do the warranty re work as to do it right the first time.
Yes but when the dealer does the work he passes the cost back to the manufacture. The warrantee system is much deferent than in the car business. @@blueoxontherun9188
I would like to say I'm surprised. However, I'm not. Consumers are the only ones who can force chamge. Thanks to you two, maybe it will eventually happen.
I like the idea that all these things would be repaired before driving off but I have real trouble imagining that is even possible. Does a typical dealership have an electrician with available time? Plummer? Wood worker with skills? I once went to camping world to have a screen door replaced on a Winnebago Travato van and I was treated to 3 guys looking at the job and clearly having no idea how to do it. And getting replacement parts, I couldn't even get a return phone call. BUT THE MOTIVATION OF NOT GETTING PAID MAY BE JUST THE MAGIC ANSWER! Do the dealers really jump to it after getting the repair list?
This is a 2022 model. Please show the data sticker on the service side front. You’re inspecting a 2022 but you’re saying it’s a 2024 in your video. It does matter.
We have an RV dealership about an hour from us that we went to look for used trailers at about a year ago. EVERY RV: Crocked Slides, gaps in slides , filthy, chunks of wallpaper missing, nasty mattresses, broken light fixtures, missing appliances. I stayed for an hour looking as it became an amazingly amusing game of looking at all the blunders. Will I buy there? No.
i know you inspect alot of makes but what is one of your favorite and well built 5th wheel rvs. i value your opinion immensely and maybe use you in the future. iam in the stages of shopping for which brand. iam lookinf at the luxe brand now but very pricey. are they high quality as stated?
Right !? You tend to get what you paid for ! But always keep in mind the out if control human factor 🙄. I really don't have a favorite brand on 5th wheel, or any other type as well. For me, it's a box, making sure everyone was on it the day of the build is key! Sorry it didn't help, I get it. Yet the most important part is always the floor plan fir me! 🤙 Make sure to reach out when you need help www.blueoxrvinspection.com
Always disappointed to see shoddy workmanship. Yes, it is all fixable, but should a new 5th wheel need to be fixed when it comes direct from the factory? If the dealer did a PDI, I would demand a refund.......how does a broken shower head or shoddy sealant application get passed?
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Having your new team with you for a week has to be an eye opener for them. Hands on learning is great, and having them say they are going to be so much better than they were is exactly what you were striving for. Only the best couples are going to be Blue Ox endorsed. Thanks for posting this informative video.
Glad you are helping people see what the dealers do.
I own a Grand Design Transcend XLS 200MK. Last April I took the factory tour of the Transcend production floor. Tour guide remarked several times about their strict unit pdi before it left the building. Well, here is what I saw. Starting with the Lippert frame, less than desirable weld beads on critical areas. Same goes with the spring shackles. No wonder they twist off. When stapling the flooring around the edge of the decking half the staples are protruding 1/4 inch above the floor. Imagine, the outer wall framing is going to mount on top of these protruding staples. Further down the line the pre fabricated lumber used to build the front bulkhead consists of a top and bottom that on some units fit good and some units were very subpar. Send it down the line. There were about 20 people on the tour. I kept noticing construction flaws in the outer walls as the tour progressed. I noticed a couple of times the guide looking over at me as I was looking things over closely. Send it down the line. As the line comes to the end and the vapor barrier and aluminum siding was attached my thoughts were, at the end of the assembly line you can pdi what is available to pdi. All of the construction flaws hidden between the interior walls and outside siding will not be fixed before leaving the plant. Nor will they be found by the dealer. The tour was a real eye opener for me. No wonder the first time I opened the a.c. vent above the bed with the a.c. running I got my eyes filled with saw dust. So the long of my post ends with this. If all rv manufactures are as haphazard in their construction as I witnessed in Grand Design, I'm not sure I will be in the market for any more.
Thanks for sharing the real side of the industry 😁
Hey guys was just listening to the RV wingman, and you haven’t heard the latest episode about hiring an RV inspector. You really should go look at it. It should’ve been an infomercial for just how great you two are.
Thanks for the heads up...we'll check it out 🙂
Love Frenchy's Maintenance Tips!!
This stow n' go would be a deal-breaker for me (including the lame caulking, electrical wiring, cabinet latch issue - lack of attention to detail in the build).
Thanks Ms Deb! 😊
Another good one
Go gettem!!!!! Thomyt
Another great video! Hoping to buy one day, where are you located? I know you do travel but knowing where you are primarily would be a great area to shop for my RV knowing that you must be the ones to do the inspection for me!
🤣🤣 thank you for your support 🙏
Primarily in Florida from October to May!
you be gettin' some good ink over at the RV Wingman channel
Thanks for letting us know😊
Hi guys. Great to see you do an inspection in my area. I am very familiar with this particular dealership. I didn't realize that you did this area, I would have contacted you guys when I had purchased my new Alliance at a nearby dealership. Sorry to say we missed the chance to chat with you guys at the content creators corner at Hershey. However I believe that you caught us on video at the corner which later got put into ERV's video "RV Winners And Losers Of 2023 -- Who Is Coming Out On Top?". Keep doing what you do. Next time we won't pass up on a chance to chat with Blue Ox!
Make sure to say hi next time 🙂 I saw you ignoring us 🤣 I'm kidding 😁🤙
Good job guys
You do look for the littlest details
That is great
We try our best to miss nothing 🙂
Well, no surprise huh?
One of the better outcomes for your recent inspections. It is amazing how many showers leak. Even the shower in our coach leaked when we bought it in 2015.
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Another great video inspection. Thanks Don
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C4BO ! 😎
And I bet if the customer told the dealer that all those latches were missing, the dealer would say latches don’t come on those doors.
Always the same refrain... Nope, doesn't come with it !!! Not even QC ...🤣
😺Beautiful boxes on wheels, but where is the pride in the job of building them? You would think that every manufacturer would have their own “Laurel and Pierre” at the end of the line, and keeping everyone upstream tuned up! 🐿
There's no accountability. No rewards other than the volume of units moved...just like salespeople 🙂
Why would there be any proudness, there's no incentive.
People still buy them without seeking Pierre and Laurel's inspection...why would they care 🤔
LOL you must be at Tom Schaeffer's ... my home area
Many years ago, I hauled brick out of the Glen Gery plant down Rt 61.
Yes, our independent inspection on our Momentum 395 ms-r was 100 pages long. So tired of the lack of quality despite their customer service being outstanding. Here is the thing though as we spoke about here in Hershey. It is all of the RV manufacturers. They all do this.
If we get another rig one day, we are going to have you guys inspect it for us. I do believe our inspection was outstanding though. -Pete
The advantage you have is, you don't know what he missed 🤣...
We'll talk about that next time 😉😁.
Only a 100 pages 🤔 !? Ohhh! 😉
@@blueoxontherun9188 Good point!
These Huge RV Companies should bring in RV Inspectors to Inspect every unit before they go to the Dealerships. Save everyone including the Dealers Stress, Time and Money. Ridiculous that this was shipped with Shite Details..Get’m you guys!
Too much money for them. Think of all the people that don't even go back for warranty work.
They are laughing their way to the bank $$$
J ‘adore vos videos . Prochaine fois que ma aller visiter des concessionnaires locaux , ma regarder pour des défaut a la imspection …Blue Ox on the Run ☺️👍
C'est bien ca mon Frenchman 😁
Not too bad…considering. We have another trip to General on the 9th. It's a never-ending thing.
Oh no !! Am sorry to hear that Melanie 😞
Great video guys. If the dealers would PDI the units when they arrive a lot of this could be avoided. They dont because sales charges service to do the PDI. This is insane and as you have found, could allow for a unit to sit with water damage for months, causing decking to need to be replaced. If the had PDI'ed they might have found the issue and fixed it before damage. Manufactures do need better quality control, but dealers are the ones really screwing people. Every dealer should have a qualified inspector on staff checking these units. Its warranty work so it cost nothing for the dealer to repair. Simple fact is dealers would rather save the PDI money and pass on a crap build to a customer to find the issues and take months to fix them.
My thought as well...!
C4BO !!!!
The absolute lack of quality control is amazing. Like the electrical issues. I would consider that to be a safety item and should have at least one more set of eyes, maybe 2 and a written buy off record. Example the worker should have to sine off /stamp off he did the work. His supervisor should inspect it and sign it off then a shop inspector who can't be intimidated by shop supervisor should look at it and buy it off. They are stupid because it cost 3 times as much to do the warranty re work as to do it right the first time.
We'd be surprised how many people do not go back ever, for warranty work 😉🙂
Yes but when the dealer does the work he passes the cost back to the manufacture. The warrantee system is much deferent than in the car business. @@blueoxontherun9188
Belle job Pierre. Sauf que cela me donne le gout de ne jamais acheter un RV.
It's definitely "un penser y bien" 🤣🤣
I would like to say I'm surprised. However, I'm not. Consumers are the only ones who can force chamge. Thanks to you two, maybe it will eventually happen.
We are not making any waves...but hopefully we'll start a ripple in people's awareness 😉
I like the idea that all these things would be repaired before driving off but I have real trouble imagining that is even possible. Does a typical dealership have an electrician with available time? Plummer? Wood worker with skills? I once went to camping world to have a screen door replaced on a Winnebago Travato van and I was treated to 3 guys looking at the job and clearly having no idea how to do it. And getting replacement parts, I couldn't even get a return phone call. BUT THE MOTIVATION OF NOT GETTING PAID MAY BE JUST THE MAGIC ANSWER! Do the dealers really jump to it after getting the repair list?
I really think it is the only drive !$$$
This is a 2022 model. Please show the data sticker on the service side front. You’re inspecting a 2022 but you’re saying it’s a 2024 in your video. It does matter.
Why are you arguing 🙂 ? Built in 2023 considered by GD as a 2024...🙄 I don't make the calls, they do 🤨
We have an RV dealership about an hour from us that we went to look for used trailers at about a year ago. EVERY RV: Crocked Slides, gaps in slides , filthy, chunks of wallpaper missing, nasty mattresses, broken light fixtures, missing appliances. I stayed for an hour looking as it became an amazingly amusing game of looking at all the blunders. Will I buy there? No.
Exactly 💯 it gives the "vibes" of the integrity and consistency of what they will offer as service
Grand Design obviously does no inspection before these rigs leave the factory
Right? I think it's just a term they like to use. Imagine, they even have "inspection station" through their process...🙄
i know you inspect alot of makes but what is one of your favorite and well built 5th wheel rvs. i value your opinion immensely and maybe use you in the future. iam in the stages of shopping for which brand. iam lookinf at the luxe brand now but very pricey. are they high quality as stated?
Right !? You tend to get what you paid for !
But always keep in mind the out if control human factor 🙄.
I really don't have a favorite brand on 5th wheel, or any other type as well. For me, it's a box, making sure everyone was on it the day of the build is key!
Sorry it didn't help, I get it. Yet the most important part is always the floor plan fir me! 🤙
Make sure to reach out when you need help www.blueoxrvinspection.com
That's sad , considering the price of the unit 😊
Mind bogling! 🙃
Slides are just a money pit waiting to happen.
Something tells me this guy was a cop or firearms instructor. Hands are a dead give away 😁
Always disappointed to see shoddy workmanship. Yes, it is all fixable, but should a new 5th wheel need to be fixed when it comes direct from the factory? If the dealer did a PDI, I would demand a refund.......how does a broken shower head or shoddy sealant application get passed?
I would love to hear their versions as well 🙂
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Dealers not trustworthy . Let you drive off with problems galore then you’d wait months for repair . Absolute 💩
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😊 thanks
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Glad to see you're still going at it Anne 🙂