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Great review. The Royal Netherlands Navy have used that name for centuries. The first time of its use was in war between England and the Netherlands. There is a movie called The Admiral command and conquer. Its a Dutch movie, very good and mostly accurate. 👍
Thx is it 17e or 16e century ? plz is Charles Quint times i learned they send spanish troops by land crossing "savoie" that was not yet french and ovoiding France 2/3 arrives exhaust sik in NL or send by sea,... by large west of irland and far noth britanny to finally take south avoiding English navy. Was fastest by sea, Uite fresh troops ... but big and expansive operations I'll try film thx
@@frednoname3714 it was in the mid 1660s the stern piece of the English ship Royal Charles is preserved and displayed in Amsterdam. The Dutch marines successfully invaded the medway and took it back as a prize. The end result of the war was uniting the Dutch republic and the Orange Royalists into what is todays democracy in the Netherlands.
@@leeforeman3656 many thanks have to learn about this part/région hystory thx again ( and about the ship of this Ybe vid sure even if needs modernize worth 10 times German's navy things 😀 thx again
Special appreciation from this Dutchman for how you pronounced Luchtverdedigingsfregat! That's a tongue breaker, but you pulled it off as if you speak Dutch almost every day. 👌 Great video too. Thanks!
A pleasant surprise to see this video. I have been wanting to see this channel talk about this frigate for awhile now and patience has paid off. Thanks for the great video i really enjoyed it.
It seems to me that these ships will not be retired when the new FuAD frigates become operational, but sold - mostly to Nato allies. That happened to nearly all earlier Dutch frigates (S-class, M-class). The present improvements will keep this class relevant for several decades.
00:53 that Dutch pronunciation was pretty good, thanks for putting in the effort! Would it be possible to get a video in the future of the Zr. Ms. Van Amstel, since i have sailed on that ship? Regardless, i have been a long-time fan/subscriber of this channel, keep up the good work!
‘De Zeven Provinciën’ means ‘The Seven Provincies’. The cooperation between the Provincies marked the start of The Netherlands which has 12 provincies today.
Awesome video!!! A while ago I wrote a comment about me unsubbing due to the (in my eyes... or uh.... ears) bad audio quality of your videos. I really didn't want to, because I loved the visual quality and the effort that was clearly put in your channel. So when you recently responded to that comment telling me the audio quality had improved, obviously I gave it a go. And for sure none of the issues I had in the past bothered me anymore to the extend I couldn't enjoy it as I wanted. Instead, I re-subbed and started to enjoy all your clips as I wanted. And boy, what a treat for me as a Dutchman to even get this thorough and extensive review on the pride of our Navy. Thanks mate, well done... I am totally back on board with this channel!
Thanks for your kind comment. We are happy to see you come back. We always pay attention to your comments, especially the right ones. However, it might take time to make improvements depending on our economic conditions. Welcome again.
Wow... These are armed to the teeth and very modern... Frigates in name only: in most other contexts (except for their # of VLS cells) they are destroyers.
Negotiations are underway for the replacement of these frigates. But, depending on the developments of the second cold war, the 7-provinciën class may be kept in active service. During the first cold war, the Netherlands had up to 20 frigates in service.
For another cool Dutch ship look at the Holland class ocean-going patrol vessel. It is very cute and has many tools to deal with pirates, smugglers and blockade runners etc, but also humanitarian services, command abilities and whatever you can do with overpowered radars and a cool gun with fancy ammunition and of course marines in fast boats and the heli.
I think you heard it incorrect. At 3:39 it is stated the frigate can operate in an CBRN environment., Meaning: the ship can operate in an area that is contaminated with Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear (CBRN) warfare agents. The ship is air-tight and can filter the incoming breathable air. You can turn on the caption (subtitles) and see hat indeed the narrator is saying: CBRN.
THe zeven provincien class where build for 30 years of service life . this was already known when they where designed , back in the 90s , just like the old Tromp class Guided missle frigates, maximum use and not to be sold on to other nations .
By the way strictly speaking it is the (Dutch or Netherlands) Royal Navy, not Royal Dutch Navy. It's after all the Koninklijke Marine, not the Koninklijke Nederlandse Marine. Same as in Britain.
Top video! Hearing about the modernization of the NL ships, I am once again totally convinced about the stupidity of our defense politicians regarding the German Nacy frigates which are imo totally „undergunned“, especially the air defense SACHSEN class. 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ Our neighbor shows us how it’s done 💪
Another wonderful video about De Zeven Provincien-Class Frigate...video clearly explained all characteristics of this class frigate also video labeled to historical background of its designed and exchange of weapons due to Netherland,Germans demand. Thank you for your respectful ( weapon detective) channel for sharing this remarkable video
Wondering why the Tomahawk (as stated here) only has a rnage of 400ish-km. The US tomahawks have well over 1000 mile range. Even the maritime strike tomahawk has a 500+ mile range.
The Netherlands might not have signed the missile control treaty. That is a treaty the USA and Russia have signed, preventing the export and assistance in developing long range cruise missiles to other countries. Israel once approached the US government for sale of Tomahawk missiles and were denied.
@@leeforeman3656 it's about being able to launch. In time of crisis the restrictions are the first things to go overboard and real capabillities are not published?
@@yarmud Because of the same reason why Turkey jointly worked with Spain in TCG Anadolu. An air defence destroyer is a highly complex machine. Turkey can overcome many problems without challenging them. There is no need to discover America again, which would be highly costly and painful.
I agree, Turkey has shown itself to be a very powerful and innovative player in the defense industry, not to mention that Turkey sells military hardware at affordable prices. But sadly Turkey's government has also shown itself to be an extremely unreliable partner under Erdogan, not to mention the many direct and personal attacks by Erdogan and his peers aimed directly at the Netherlands (calling us "Nazi remnants" etc) and as such there's no chance of collaboration happening.
I would have added about 40 feet to the the hull for additional VLS cells. Could add ASROC and additional capabilities depending on mission. Don't get me wrong, I like the ship.
Agreed, if they added another 30-40 VLS cells at the back of the ship it would have even so much more more oomphg than it already has. As is the Zeven Provinciën is already at the top of the Frigate league, thanks to its upgraded SMART-L with 2.000 km ballistic missile detection range and it's amazing APAR. But with the mentioned added VLS capability and by filling it with SM-3 and Tomahawk missiles it would make for the best floating ballistic missile shield in the world, not to mention an extremely versatile and powerful multirole destroyer. Even without it she's still a very potent frigate though, it's just a shame that bristling as she is with the best sensors of any navy, she doesn't have the missile loadout to match.
@@pieterveenders9793 its probably very simple, the sensor range covers such a big area (and is also fairly specialised) compared to the missile-range that she is supossed to share the data to other platforms that are somewhere else, say another frigate with 30-40 VLS cells 100 km away or something. That 64 AA missiles being fired constantly from her cells will be all the missiles needed to cover any realistic barrage of enemy shit that will actually be within your reach to hit due to restrictions of distances. So adding stuff would possibly only make her a bigger target without adding any benefits in any 'realistic' engagement. Maybe that has changed now with all the small threats with drones and such but who knows. Idk if I explained what I meant very well but eh. No idea why I started with 'its probably very simple' :')
a 40-cell VLS solely for launching surface-to-air missiles only, what a waste . . . lack of a dedicated VLS for anti-ship & land attack cruise missiles is quite alarming . . .
It's a frigate, not a destroyer. The Zeven Provinciëen class has anti-ship and land attack missile capability in the form of it's Harpoon cruise missiles. And in reality she has a much larger VLS missile load out because the ESSM's are quad packed, so she carries a total of up to 64 missiles in her VLS cells (32 SM-2 and 32 ESSM). I do agree that it's a shame she wasn't turned into a destroyer by lengthening her hull another ~15 meters and giving her an additional aft VLS battery with 40 cells. After all she has all the sensors to make it one of the if not the most powerful ship of any navy.
You're comparing a frigate to a corvette? Why don't we just compare it to the USS Gerarld R. Ford while we're at it. Tell us you don't know anything about ship types without telling us you don't know anything about ship types.
@@kutter_ttl6786 Indeed, and it's a large frigate. It's not called a destroyer because of political reasons, we don't like the implied violence. Even though in Dutch the classification is called Jager which translates to Hunter.
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Great review. The Royal Netherlands Navy have used that name for centuries. The first time of its use was in war between England and the Netherlands. There is a movie called The Admiral command and conquer. Its a Dutch movie, very good and mostly accurate. 👍
Thx is it 17e or 16e century ? plz is Charles Quint times i learned they send spanish troops by land crossing "savoie" that was not yet french and ovoiding France 2/3 arrives exhaust sik in NL or send by sea,... by large west of irland and far noth britanny to finally take south avoiding English navy. Was fastest by sea, Uite fresh troops ... but big and expansive operations
I'll try film thx
@@frednoname3714 it was in the mid 1660s the stern piece of the English ship Royal Charles is preserved and displayed in Amsterdam. The Dutch marines successfully invaded the medway and took it back as a prize. The end result of the war was uniting the Dutch republic and the Orange Royalists into what is todays democracy in the Netherlands.
@@leeforeman3656 many thanks have to learn about this part/région hystory thx again ( and about the ship of this Ybe vid sure even if needs modernize worth 10 times German's navy things 😀 thx again
Special appreciation from this Dutchman for how you pronounced Luchtverdedigingsfregat! That's a tongue breaker, but you pulled it off as if you speak Dutch almost every day. 👌 Great video too. Thanks!
A pleasant surprise to see this video. I have been wanting to see this channel talk about this frigate for awhile now and patience has paid off. Thanks for the great video i really enjoyed it.
It seems to me that these ships will not be retired when the new FuAD frigates become operational, but sold - mostly to Nato allies. That happened to nearly all earlier Dutch frigates (S-class, M-class). The present improvements will keep this class relevant for several decades.
A handsome craft. Thanks for sharing!
00:53 that Dutch pronunciation was pretty good, thanks for putting in the effort!
Would it be possible to get a video in the future of the Zr. Ms. Van Amstel, since i have sailed on that ship?
Regardless, i have been a long-time fan/subscriber of this channel, keep up the good work!
‘De Zeven Provinciën’ means ‘The Seven Provincies’. The cooperation between the Provincies marked the start of The Netherlands which has 12 provincies today.
Awesome video!!! A while ago I wrote a comment about me unsubbing due to the (in my eyes... or uh.... ears) bad audio quality of your videos. I really didn't want to, because I loved the visual quality and the effort that was clearly put in your channel. So when you recently responded to that comment telling me the audio quality had improved, obviously I gave it a go. And for sure none of the issues I had in the past bothered me anymore to the extend I couldn't enjoy it as I wanted. Instead, I re-subbed and started to enjoy all your clips as I wanted. And boy, what a treat for me as a Dutchman to even get this thorough and extensive review on the pride of our Navy. Thanks mate, well done... I am totally back on board with this channel!
Thanks for your kind comment. We are happy to see you come back. We always pay attention to your comments, especially the right ones. However, it might take time to make improvements depending on our economic conditions. Welcome again.
@@WeaponDetective u‘re doing an excellent job on your channel, keep up the good work 👍👍👍 May I kindly ask where you‘re located?
@@kesterdonner8190 Thanks for your interest and kind comment. We are a multi-national team.
Wow... These are armed to the teeth and very modern... Frigates in name only: in most other contexts (except for their # of VLS cells) they are destroyers.
Negotiations are underway for the replacement of these frigates. But, depending on the developments of the second cold war, the 7-provinciën class may be kept in active service. During the first cold war, the Netherlands had up to 20 frigates in service.
Another brilliant video with excellent content 😊
For another cool Dutch ship look at the Holland class ocean-going patrol vessel.
It is very cute and has many tools to deal with pirates, smugglers and blockade runners etc, but also humanitarian services, command abilities and whatever you can do with overpowered radars and a cool gun with fancy ammunition and of course marines in fast boats and the heli.
You pronounced the name very well👍
CRBM = close-range ballistic missile for anyone wondering what “CRBM environment” meant.
I think you heard it incorrect. At 3:39 it is stated the frigate can operate in an CBRN environment., Meaning: the ship can operate in an area that is contaminated with Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear (CBRN) warfare agents. The ship is air-tight and can filter the incoming breathable air. You can turn on the caption (subtitles) and see hat indeed the narrator is saying: CBRN.
Uhm, he aint talking about that...
@@ghostindamachine I’ve an M50 Avon mask. So, I’m familiar with the nomenclature. i thought he said CRBM and not CBRN. Though I can’t remember now.
@@The_ZeroLine He was talking about CBRN.
THe zeven provincien class where build for 30 years of service life . this was already known when they where designed , back in the 90s , just like the old Tromp class Guided missle frigates, maximum use and not to be sold on to other nations .
Thanks for this informative video!
Warm greetings from the Netherlands🇳🇱.
Small correction, only De Everten has 2 goalkeepers, the others only have 1.
Nice overview, greetz from Groningen, the Netherlands
Have u done the Horizon Frigate before? What an interesting guns placements!!
By the way strictly speaking it is the (Dutch or Netherlands) Royal Navy, not Royal Dutch Navy. It's after all the Koninklijke Marine, not the Koninklijke Nederlandse Marine. Same as in Britain.
Now a real good video about modern Dutch warships next the karel doorman class m-frigates
Top video! Hearing about the modernization of the NL ships, I am once again totally convinced about the stupidity of our defense politicians regarding the German Nacy frigates which are imo totally „undergunned“, especially the air defense SACHSEN class. 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ Our neighbor shows us how it’s done 💪
Another wonderful video about De Zeven Provincien-Class Frigate...video clearly explained all characteristics of this class frigate also video labeled to historical background of its designed and exchange of weapons due to Netherland,Germans demand. Thank you for your respectful ( weapon detective) channel for sharing this remarkable video
Hello could you do a video about indonesia's FAC like the Sampari Class FAC
The 127mm (5 in.) guns from the Canadians were completely refurbished before being handed over to the RNN.
Wondering why the Tomahawk (as stated here) only has a rnage of 400ish-km. The US tomahawks have well over 1000 mile range. Even the maritime strike tomahawk has a 500+ mile range.
The Netherlands might not have signed the missile control treaty. That is a treaty the USA and Russia have signed, preventing the export and assistance in developing long range cruise missiles to other countries. Israel once approached the US government for sale of Tomahawk missiles and were denied.
@@leeforeman3656 it's about being able to launch. In time of crisis the restrictions are the first things to go overboard and real capabillities are not published?
@@leeforeman3656i think the main reason is defence budget or the lack of it the past years.
Thanks for this excellent video. It is indeed one of the best frigates. I hope Turkey will work together with the Netherlands for its TF-2000 Project.
Why should they do it?
@@yarmud Because of the same reason why Turkey jointly worked with Spain in TCG Anadolu. An air defence destroyer is a highly complex machine. Turkey can overcome many problems without challenging them. There is no need to discover America again, which would be highly costly and painful.
@@habahan4257 did the dutch agreed on complying
@@yarmud It is just my opinion. I am not government official
I agree, Turkey has shown itself to be a very powerful and innovative player in the defense industry, not to mention that Turkey sells military hardware at affordable prices. But sadly Turkey's government has also shown itself to be an extremely unreliable partner under Erdogan, not to mention the many direct and personal attacks by Erdogan and his peers aimed directly at the Netherlands (calling us "Nazi remnants" etc) and as such there's no chance of collaboration happening.
As usual, really good presentation. Please also tackle T-129 ATAK helicopter.
I would have added about 40 feet to the the hull for additional VLS cells. Could add ASROC and additional capabilities depending on mission. Don't get me wrong, I like the ship.
Agreed, if they added another 30-40 VLS cells at the back of the ship it would have even so much more more oomphg than it already has. As is the Zeven Provinciën is already at the top of the Frigate league, thanks to its upgraded SMART-L with 2.000 km ballistic missile detection range and it's amazing APAR. But with the mentioned added VLS capability and by filling it with SM-3 and Tomahawk missiles it would make for the best floating ballistic missile shield in the world, not to mention an extremely versatile and powerful multirole destroyer. Even without it she's still a very potent frigate though, it's just a shame that bristling as she is with the best sensors of any navy, she doesn't have the missile loadout to match.
@@pieterveenders9793 its probably very simple, the sensor range covers such a big area (and is also fairly specialised) compared to the missile-range that she is supossed to share the data to other platforms that are somewhere else, say another frigate with 30-40 VLS cells 100 km away or something. That 64 AA missiles being fired constantly from her cells will be all the missiles needed to cover any realistic barrage of enemy shit that will actually be within your reach to hit due to restrictions of distances.
So adding stuff would possibly only make her a bigger target without adding any benefits in any 'realistic' engagement. Maybe that has changed now with all the small threats with drones and such but who knows.
Idk if I explained what I meant very well but eh. No idea why I started with 'its probably very simple' :')
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a 40-cell VLS solely for launching surface-to-air missiles only, what a waste . . . lack of a dedicated VLS for anti-ship & land attack cruise missiles is quite alarming . . .
Why would an air defence frigate be equipped with land attack capabilities? She is designed to escort a NATO taskforce.
It's a frigate, not a destroyer. The Zeven Provinciëen class has anti-ship and land attack missile capability in the form of it's Harpoon cruise missiles. And in reality she has a much larger VLS missile load out because the ESSM's are quad packed, so she carries a total of up to 64 missiles in her VLS cells (32 SM-2 and 32 ESSM). I do agree that it's a shame she wasn't turned into a destroyer by lengthening her hull another ~15 meters and giving her an additional aft VLS battery with 40 cells. After all she has all the sensors to make it one of the if not the most powerful ship of any navy.
@@feddek9325multi mission doctrine warrants omni-role capabilities . . .
not come close to Israel SAAR6
You're comparing a 1900 ton warship with a 6000 ton warship, why?
No needs, its weapons have longer range :))))
You're comparing a frigate to a corvette? Why don't we just compare it to the USS Gerarld R. Ford while we're at it. Tell us you don't know anything about ship types without telling us you don't know anything about ship types.
@@kutter_ttl6786 Indeed, and it's a large frigate. It's not called a destroyer because of political reasons, we don't like the implied violence.
Even though in Dutch the classification is called Jager which translates to Hunter.