Things are changing as politicians can't ignore reality any longer. We will see if we keep it up. Also don't forget we've got the largest F35 fleet of Europe which is a nice start.
I mean go back far enough and you can find a very well funded military that excelled in naval combat against far bigger countries or before that the 80 years war in which the Dutch fielded a superior army with better tactics which allowed them to win against the far larger Spanish empire.
they make some propaganda and all know it ,laugh and enjoy crap ,Dutch army is one of weakest army in world ,also they dont have good name for soldiers last battle they saw was scaping from some Serbian soldiers and some Taliban lol
One of the main problems of young people not wanting to join the Netherlands Army is the lousy pay. It's even slightly less than someone working at McDonald's. I was drafted in 1989 and the pay was equally bad. In all that time the state hasn't learned a thing.
You are correct about the pay, but don't forget that you do not need any eduction at all to be a regular soldier. So if you compare the wages they are on par with all other jobs where you don't need any education. Sure there are exceptions like "stratenmaker' or 'stukadoor' where you would not make it passed 35 without serious back problems.
Dont know but dutch navy , airforce , army all have good pay only the new recruits are the 18 year olds that are still in the minnum wage category . And are frankly still in training the first year. the Dutch navy you need more than 1 year to become Able seaman 1st class .it takes over 2 years of education to become a corporal So pay is low . like any job , And when you become fully operational the money comes flowing in . As i can remember that when i was an civilian electrician 18 years old i earned 1600 a month with out taxes and i earned 2400 a month 1 year in doing the same job . It all depends what type of education you had and which service you apply for . A soldier never earns as much as a navy sailor as the level of education needed is a huge difference.
@@TONSBERG100 I understand you philosophically but unfortunately bills have to be paid as well. If you volunteer for the Army knowing what you get paid that's ones own choice. Personally I didn't have the choice of refusing military service because in my time I was drafted. Back then it the pay was minimal and after leaaving I started to work and made 500 more instantly.
The Dutch government has gambled that with our army. They have assumed that the risk of war is small because we are surrounded by allies. They cut back so much that there was no longer a full-fledged army. Fortunately, they have now realized that we cannot rely solely on a quickly deployable unit. Now they are busy rebuilding everything.
@@Filippenzen413 Ik heb defensie nooit als verspilling gezien, mijn vader en oom waren allebei beroepsmilitairen. Maar ik weet wel dat er veel geld over de balk werd gegooid. Mijn vader was garage Commandant en zei, dat er heel veel goed gereedschap en materiaal werd verschroot , omdat het op dat moment niet nodig was. Toen ik zelf in dienst zat, was ik monteur van vrachtwagens bij de Genie. Al deze vrachtwagens moesten in perfecte staat van onderhoud verkeren, dat hield in dat we om de haverklap alle remblokken ( al waren deze nog als nieuw) filters ( van de garage naar de stalling en weer terug naar de garage) en alle vloeistoffen ( motorolie, koelvloeistof, en meer dan 500 liter hydrauliek olie) moesten worden vervangen, terwijl de meeste van deze vrachtwagens al de tijd stil hadden gestaan. Er werd dus ook in onze ogen veel verspild. Maar defensie was wel noodzakelijk. Zeker als je weet dat mijn opa, en mijn vader's vader 10 dagen na zijn 30e verjaardag in de tweede wereldoorlog werd vermoord.
Dutch army???? Let me cry of laughter please...guys go back to red light district and coffeshop and leave the fighting for real warriors like poland or the usa 😎
The thing people misunderstand is Dutch military doctrine is much more about being a highly mobile intervention force than it is about being a conquer territory from the neighbours and occupy it force. The Luchtmobiele Brigade is probably the most impressive thing the Dutch have on offer. Which fits in nicely with a relatively light-weight force and a relatively large air-lift capability. Much like the Americans, the British and other large, modern armies, the Dutch can deploy quite significant power to anywhere on the globe within 24 hours. And much like with the tanks that are leased from Germany, the Dutch also have a small number of nuclear weapons in store from the Americans. Technically those are American weapons, stored on Dutch airbases, but the Dutch F16s as well as the F35s are capable of deploying those weapons.
Dutch army???? Let me cry of laughter please...guys go back to red light district and coffeshop and leave the fighting for real warriors like poland or the usa 😎
(comment correction) You forgot to mention the Dutch Marine corps. They are one of the oldest Marines corps of the world. The Corps was founded by the worldfamous Admiral de Ruyter who needed specialised sea-soldiers for defending Ships from enemy sailors entering and Ship to shore combat. They are the special forces for the Navy like the Commando's are for the Army. To this day Dutch Marines are often stationed on Dutch/NATO Merchant ships in the pirate infested water part of the journey.
The Spanish marine corps was founded in 1537 and is the oldest still-active marine corps in the world, while the Netherlands marine corps, founded in 1665, is the fifth-oldest after Spain, Portugal, France and the Brits. Even today, marines in most countries are specially trained sea-soldiers who are part of the navy while the Marine Corps in the Netherlands are considered elite soldiers as well like in the United Kingdom.
I was a dutch marine for more than 10 years.Because of our strong relations with the british Marines,as UK/NL Amfibious Force i have learned a lot from the british marines.But you are right about the Spanish they are the oldest Marines.Then you have the Portuges,French and British.And the dutch marines as fifth in 1665 QPO@@PeterArmand70
Ehh.... NL only has a naval about 400 years old, it's BY FAR not the oldest. That one has to go to the ancient empires as Persia (modern day Iran) for example, which have been active since B.C.
I currently work at the truck production plant of Scania which also makes the new military trucks for the Dutch army and it does bring a smile to my face seeing how much trucks for the army we are making now
The contents of this video suggest that it was very hastily made. Perhaps the script was AI generated. A lot of ships in the Dutch Navy fleet are not even mentioned in the video, while it is such an easy topic to get a comprehensive list of. The title also does not reflect the contents of the video.
Yup this felt very AI like. I also doubt these numbers and whatever numbers are actually known for sure, im sure the military has more to offer that wont be released out in the open like every other country does.
Its not 100% of our airforce. We have f35 fighters, nh90 helicopters, chinook helicopters, eurocopters, apache attack helicopters, c130 transports and others that i forgot
All our f16 that we are gonna give to ukraine are old and we wanted to replace them with f35. We currently have around 20-30 of them but 52 are planned
The suspension of national service in 1996 . has one thing to do with it , 2nd huge budget cuts in the 2000s . going from 244 F16s to 48 Going from a navy of 20 frigates 6 submarines 15 mine hunters 2 supply ships ( dozens of auxilery boats and ships) 13 PC-3 orions . to 6 frigates ,4 submarines 6 mine hunters , 2 LPD 1 JSS combat suport ship . and 4 ocp 800 tanks , 93 geppards , thousands of armoured vehicles artillery pieces . Airdefenses . Over 300.000 troops . to no tanks a few geppards in long term storage . still quite a lot of Armoured fighting vehicles. Main issue , Budget cuts , 2nd larbour shortage , where you can frankly ask what you want and they pay for it .
The European wars of the 1600s and 1700s had a great impact upon the founding of the USA. I am sure you know about New Amsterdam and the settlement of the Hudson River valley. It was the fear of the religious European wars of the 1700s that motivated our Founders to create our present form of government.
Actually, it wasn't. One only has take a single look at the USA's constitution to see that it was copied from the Dutch constitution. Much like how the "fear of religious persecution" was never a thing, because the fact is that those who would later set up the USA hated the fact that they were unable to subject the people to their own religious will, the history of the USA is largely lies built upon lies to make the people feel better. To feel like the underdog if you will. They left because they weren't able to do persecute people for their beliefs, especially in the Netherlands. They got their little dictator asses kicked out of Europe for the very reason they claimed they founded the country.
@@therealdutchidiot Amirian colonial history revolves around the three regions of: New England, Virginia Tidewater, and the Carolinas. Your interpretation is New England-ish. The major writers of the U.S. Constitution were tidewater planters of English decent. Most were Deists.
@@hettykromdijk2910 Sebrenica was not an arse kicking. It was a naive commander who betrayed his own troops, and, more importantly, the civilians they were meant to protect. He made the dangerous, assumption that he was dealing with honest opposition, rather than brainwashed, ignorant Nazis. Anyone who has served knows that you NEVER rely on an officer in combat situations for the first time. He panicked, simple. Luckily, the French did not.
@@ReneAltena Air cover was not requested from the French forces. Where did you get that from? The sad truth is that the soldiers were in a situation of being in danger, but lacking any officers who needed to act like officers, and not scared little kids. They betrayed their own soldiers.
I come from Indonesia, but I have a biological father who is a descendant of soldiers from the Netherlands, until now my father has never seen his father's face since he was little and this happened during the second military aggression in Indonesia, I hope my father can find his biological father or his siblings are in the Netherlands.😢😢
A military giant? 😂😂😂 Give me a fucking break. Just a few years ago we didn’t even have fucking bullets to train with. Soldiers were shouting *bang bang* for training purposes. Now the same dipship that never respected the 2% norm is heading NATO. Let’s call it out for what it is: a clusterfuck.
In 1989 the Royal Air Force had about 200 F-16's. Now they have purchased some 50 F-35's. Around 1989 the Royal Navy had about 20 frigates. Now they have six, of which one is decommissioned because of lack of crew to sail it. In 1989 the Royal Army had two active and one reserve divisions. Now there are just three combat brigades. Don't make up a bullshit story about the Dutch being a military giant. They're not
what do you even mean? VOC had nothign to do with the dutch goverment it was a own company with there own massive fleet, the goverment should be happy they got a little cut back than
about the navy, we also have 2 karel doorman class frigets. called the ZR. MS. Van Amstel and the Van speijk. those 2 ships are multi purpose frigets so they are used for searching for subs and can defend its self against aircraft
Seriously, what is this for a shiity video, asking us questions and not giving any answer.😮 Indeed NL is almost a military super power. The 18 tanks frighten me the most, if they are operational that is.
@@qpaulussen8803 I think you mean asml, but they make the chip machines that produces the chips, that is different from what you mean! The Dutch NXP makes chips, but I don't think the whole world is dependent on them, the most advanced chips come from Taiwan, according to everything
at 3:34 it says 'marsose', which is incorrect. 'Marsose' is an Indonesian word that comes from the Dutch 'Marechaussee' (which comes from the French). So the correct word would be 'Royal Dutch Marechaussee'
18 main battle tanks 🤣 Now look today in the war in Ukraine how many tanks you need and need to be built to compensate for the losses. 18 tanks are taken out in a day.
I have huge faith in the Dutch personell and their training. They only needed more funding, which was lacking for a long time. Now, since a few years, it seems they finally somewhat get the funding they need. If I was in power I would give them even more tho., because they have huge potential.
Can you imagine that we had almost 1000 battle tanks in the 1990 and now we lease 18 leopard A6 from the Germans? I think we are one off the weakest armies according to tanks, fighterjets. amoured vehicles. There is a lot to do to become stronger again.
The Dutch military is hardly a force to be reckoned with, witch is something you can expect from such a small country. But the air force. navy and special forces are praised by everyone who ever worked with them in the field. They may be small in numbers but modern and very well trained, what makes them a very reliable allie within NATO. Don't forget the Marines were originally created by the Dutch first. Another positive is the high level of technology in the Netherlands. More than once Dutch modifications in acquired weapon systems made them better than the original product. So all in all we are doing not too shabby for such a small nation, in spite the fact that we do prefer to spent our money on health, education and infra structure than on our army. Wich makes sense, since we have no intention to invade Belgium or any other neighbour.
You left alot out, are navy has one more ship type you didn't mention, the joint support vessels ( we have 3 of them) the dutch navy is also fused with the belgium navy ( called benesam) and since the fall of the Berlin wall, our goverment didn't feel the need for a large military force. In the army we do not own main battle tanks any more, we sold all of our leopard tanks. The yellow riders now operate in cooperation with Germany German tanks, and don't own any mbt,s our selfs. It is so stupid we went from 995 mbt,s to 0 in less then 3 decades. I don't think the royal dutch airforce isn't to pleased that the 24 f16s are already send to Ukraine. Since we ordered the new f35 and the full amount of f35 armt delivered yet. In comparison with the ww2 and cold war era, I think the dutch armed forces today are nothing of what it used to be, don't forget for a country so small we could compete with the biggest nations in the world. And you know why the new submarines are going to be build in Germany? That is because in the last 40 years the dry docks were the walrus class was build don't exist anymore and the knowhow and experience to build subs got lost. What I do appreciate int the army, is their capability and capacity, to actualy work with earth moving equipment like wheel loaders excavators, and bulldozer these are the dutch army genie companie. And the korps commando troepen ( kct) are nott the only special forces in our armed forces. We also have a special forces unit in the royal dutch marine core named nl morsaf ( former bbe) and we have aivd kinda like Cia/fbi. And the royal Marishousee is comparable with atf border patrol. As far as the dutch patriotism goes, I think there are more that would love to join the dutch armed forces, but politics and .assume budget cuts from the last 30 years contributed greatly in the number of personal in the dutch armed forces. And I rather see my tax euro,s be spended on our armed forces then, it getting spend on worthless projects like they do at the moment. ( tried to join the dutch armed forces in 2004, 2005 and 2006) and every single time it was the same awnser " deu to budget cuts we are not hiring right now, try again next year. So I eventually gave up, and staid in the profession, I still work today. ( operating hydraulic excavators) But I'm full of pride to our men and woman in the dutch armed forces. And if you're interested, you could look up, Peter van uhm commander of the dutch armed forces ( retired) why I choose the gun speech. Think you would appreciate that.
The dutch were never colonizers they were traders. They more or less stumbled their way into colonization. Their military strength did not come from colonies, but from trade and ingenuity. Windmills and cooperative society to outpace their rivals in production, genius designs by brilliant men to make better use of what they had, and the principles of liberty to allow great men to rise to the task instead of letting nobles fumble. Michiel de Ruyter being a great example of when the value of nobility came into conflict with the ideal of allowing the great to take their place, allowing the dutch to win some of the most difficult battles possible, and sadly also a reminder of the decline of said value towards the end taking away said strength from the nation.. Though to answer the question: the dutch is not about to turn into a military power. There simply is no taste for it in the population and no benefit to be gained for the nation. What are we going to do with said navy? Invade Britain? At most we'll expand our capabilities to improve our ability to assist NATO and EU initiatives with combat power.
The Netherlands has a OK army for it’s size as a country. You can’t compare it to a world power like USA or Sweden but it still has a somewhat modern arsenal of weapons capable of supporting other countries in combat missions.
Addition to your info. We boight 22 extra F-35. Starting a new division of MLRS (I thought we bought 40 from Israel. Also there are adiditonal armed raptors coming and pateiot systems. Next will we a new tank divsion, currently this is a group that operates with Germany.
In 2018 Dutch soldiers had to shout “bang bang” because they where out of bullets. Im from the Netherlands and was in the military. At this moment we have the worse army ever.
We don't have a big military because our ex- prime ministers lowered the military budget of the Netherlands (if we look at the GBD) by 300% since 1980. Although the military budget of the Netherlands is relatively big, it's mostly spent at the modern vehicles and technology of the dutch military. New regulations of NATO state that all NATO countries need to spend at least 2% of its GBD on the military. That equals to 23,540,000 million Euro. so its a 'big' improvement from todays military budget (28% improvement). This will mean that the salary of a soldier will improve, therefore more people will be interested to join.
You still forgot the marines, and especially Marsof, which is an elite group within the marines. And the elite regiment of the army: Koninklijke Luchtbrigade. And in the mean time, the Ducth military staff gave order to expand the Air Force to 52 F-35's. Recent years, the Ducth government has given the militery 5 Billion extra per year. This is being used to modernized an fully equip the army. The only problem that remains getting enough personnel.
ASML... it won't take long for that company will also leave holland....and go abroad.... thanx to mismanagement of a criminal government.... with Mark Rutte as the head clown ....doing everything in his power to get to Nato.....that whats going on here ...nothing else...😢
Yes when they spend 15 billion euros they must have a good military. The navy is combined with belgium but the dutch navy is significant bigger. The jsf 35 is one of the most advanced fighterjets.
Dutch army???? Let me cry of laughter please...guys go back to red light district and coffeshop and leave the fighting for real warriors like poland or the usa 😎
Laughed my ass off looking at the name of the video.... The Netherlands hardly has any military left thanks to the budgetcuts in the past 20 years.... 5 huge airbases gone thanks to the budget cuts. 170 F-16's divided over 12 squadrons on those 5 airbases..gone, because the government needed money for other stupid things. The Airbase i worked at back in 2004 / 2008 is Airbase leeuwarden in the northern part of the Netherlands. When i left, the Airforce had atleast 3800 personall on the base "excluding civilians" ...nowadays we dont even have 800 people there. In 1990 the Netherlands Airforce had 204 f-16's now we dont even have 30 F-35's across the two remaining airbases we have left. in 1994 all the military branches of the Netherlands combined held approxximatly 240 / 250.000 people.... nowadays we dont even have 40.000. That pretty much explains why we're weak as a military. we dont even have enough bullets for our rifles according to my friend thats still a soldier in the army. Its ridiculous how far we've come.
It was not Maurits (Maurice) who initiated the revolt against Spain, but his father Willem de Zwijger (William the Silent), otherwise called Willem van Oranje-Nassau.
"De echt Nederlandse ware patriotten." De ware patriotten dat mogen wij zijn. Langs marcheren voor vadertje staat. Geboren helden van ons moederland. De echt Nederlandse ware patriotten. De ware patriotten dat kunnen wij zijn. Ons hart vol van liefde voor ons land. Klaar om te vechten voor den koning. De echt Nederlandse ware patriotten. De ware patriotten dat zullen wij zijn. Geloof en verstand totaal overtuigd. De ziel en wil gebrand op ons gelijk. De echt Nederlandse ware patriotten. De ware patriotten dat willen wij zijn. Wie dan maar ook uit ons land komt. Sluit zich natuurlijk direkt bij ons aan. De echt Nederlandse ware patriotten. De ware patriotten dat moeten wij zijn. Dan dragen wij allemaal oranje kledij. Hijsen de vlaggen rood, wit en blauw. De echt Nederlandse ware patriotten.
F-16's already arrived in Ukraine. Batavia is NOT a warship, but a V.O.C. ship, meaning it's a merchant ship. The Amsterdam is also a merchant vessel. The R81 was a legendary ship for the fleet, still to this day a huge missing part of the navy is a replacement for this ship. There was originally a second carrier to be added to the wanted list but cancelled later on. 4 Alkmaar class ships have been donated to Ukraine, the 5th will likely go as well. Only 4 of those submarines are ordered to replace the 4 currently in service. The Leo 2's are NOT Dutch owned or leased, but on loan from Germany to form a German/Dutch battalion. There is a big difference there. C-130's are set to be replaced by 4 Embraer C-390M, which is clearly a lot smaller. PC-7's are about to be retired as well, I'm not sue what aircraft will replace those if any. And right now, no the Dutch armed forces are not capable of doing much. Yet still those within it are far better trained then even the US troops.
William the third a Dutchman ( the house of orange ) was ones the king of England, Scotland and Ireland 1689 - 1702.. Yeah ones the mighty Dutch fleet rules the waves... today it's another story..
The budget has more than doubled because of the war in Europe, with an added 2x factor for half a decade to climb back to the minimum requirements for readiness... According to official raports done by the previous ministers of Defence, full combat readiness will take 20-30 years for the Dutch because of severe budget cuts, horrible mental health care and evaporation of many entire weapon systems and knowledge, know-how and combat experience. There are 9.000 unfilled positions in their armed forces and of the total 69.000 employees, over 20.000 are civilian occupations currently... 2 of 6 fregats are operational, they sold all combat operational tanks, over half the F35's will only collect dust for many years due to lack of pilots to fly them, no air defence systems (the newly purchased were gifted to ukraine before even reaching the Dutch). The list goes on and on for pages about all the missing yet critically important things that are lacking or not even present...
Your info is not complete. The Dutch navy is building 31 new ships till 2030. And at the moment 29 exclusive the small vessels.4 submarines 1 joint support vessel 2 landing platform vessels 4 air defense frigates 2 multi purpose 4 patrol vessels 5 minehunters 1 torpedo work vessel 4 dive support vessels 2 hydrographic 1 support vessel and trainings vessels
Do really believe that,their is no time for building these ships NATO wants start a war against a Russia Do you really understand whats coming as these NATO Lunatics provoke a war with Russia? We will be destroyed in seconds
I asked a pensionated militairy guy, if he could do it all again today, would he choose for a mil.career again ? He answered me that it would be the biggest mistake you can make today. It's no more a fight between men, it's a fight against computars and machines. 😂😂😂 He said that you are a moreon to choose the army. 😂😂😂
You ask a bit to much questions :) it's good to ask for interactment in the comments, but because you ask our minds about something so often, it begins to feel like you researched a bit, and didnt wanna deepdive, so you ask the watchers to inform you more. I know that's not the case :) just starts to feel like it a bit, great video otherwise!
No offense, but the suggestion of the title is quite over the top. Militarism is my hobby and im living in the Netherlands. But overall - our current forces are decent, but far from a military giant. The reverse claim about them to be a joke is also not correct, but closer to the reality after all. As with many European countries - we reached a bottom, lacked fundamentel investements in defense. While we woke up now, it might take years if not more then a decade to reverse this.
It is better to live in peace than in war time. The US initiated this war against Russia via NATO. It is not an European war. Europe got abused by the US. We must go back to decent thinking. If we can't beat Russia (nobody can), lets join and forget the declining USA. Their time is over. The've outsourced their earning capacity to cheap labor countries from the mid '60s, and now they complain about the producing countries (Germany and China). Trump's MAGA is impossible, and everybody knows that. Asia is the new economic centre. Europe should join them in their prosperity, happiness and wealth.
While quantity is a skill on its own, The Dutch use quality over quantity. With a small population it's impossible to maintain a large professional army and though many cost cutting measures have been taking place over the last 2 decades thinking the threat from the east was gone recent developments in the Ukraine has shown the Dutch government that those cuts were premature. Military spending has and will be further increased to (re)build a highly mobile, quick deployable and flexible Army that will be able to play a major role and be a reliable partner within NATO and our friends around the world. Rebuilding what has been lost will take time, but the Dutch will always be able to punch well above their weight as we have shown in the last 25 years during peace keeping and peace enforcing missions. The Dutch motto is: Je Maintiendrai which means depending on the context: I will maintain, I will defend or I will support. Joining the Dutch Army is not about earning a lot of money though the salary is decent enough especially if you consider the hazard pay during exercises and missions. Many young Dutch (Including myself with 12 years with the Armoured Infantry 42BLJ) join after right after highschool to a.) Serve our country and help make the world, no matter how small our contribution is to be a better place and b.) while being enlisted enjoy the nearly unlimited educational opportunities fully paid and during working hours.
i like the video a lot but please stop asking a question to the people every 10sec to trigger conversation, just explain the video without that.. + why is Amsterdams location wrong on that map lol
Endless discussions about changing some submarines, selling all tanks and maritime patrol planes... Don't make me laugh. It will never be a super power.
Heard the Belgians also want 3 of those frigates. Making the development of surface ships for the future more relevant. I say we should really invest in our navy and naval production capacity.
@@dennisgaatjeniksaan2132Berer gooi je die granaat en 4 dozijnen ervan meer in die 2 de kamer zal een hoop problemen oplossen. Zolang die schele rat aan da roer staat heeft nl enkeltje de afgrond in
@@letheas6175 wil je best afgooien in vrederust hoor zit hier om de hoek namelijk . Lekker vvd blijven stemmen en je land weg laten geven tot je zelf op de vlucht kunt 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah we just have a bunch of over expensive F35's left. Pretty sure we should have went with the Swedish Gripen. But nope. We went shopping in the USA (again) instead.
Lol you have to have all the papers to get in there even if you wanted really bad they would not let you join thats wy the army is that small that wasnt always like that they need to change it
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The Netherlands, historically known for it's decades of militairy budget cuts... is the maker of this video for fucking real?
"bang!"
Now you shoot me :P
Things are changing as politicians can't ignore reality any longer. We will see if we keep it up. Also don't forget we've got the largest F35 fleet of Europe which is a nice start.
that doesnt matter dummy. if you dont know what your talking about then dont talk about it
I mean go back far enough and you can find a very well funded military that excelled in naval combat against far bigger countries or before that the 80 years war in which the Dutch fielded a superior army with better tactics which allowed them to win against the far larger Spanish empire.
they make some propaganda and all know it ,laugh and enjoy crap ,Dutch army is one of weakest army in world ,also they dont have good name for soldiers last battle they saw was scaping from some Serbian soldiers and some Taliban lol
One of the main problems of young people not wanting to join the Netherlands Army is the lousy pay. It's even slightly less than someone working at McDonald's. I was drafted in 1989 and the pay was equally bad. In all that time the state hasn't learned a thing.
You are correct about the pay, but don't forget that you do not need any eduction at all to be a regular soldier. So if you compare the wages they are on par with all other jobs where you don't need any education. Sure there are exceptions like "stratenmaker' or 'stukadoor' where you would not make it passed 35 without serious back problems.
Dont know but dutch navy , airforce , army all have good pay only the new recruits are the 18 year olds that are still in the minnum wage category . And are frankly still in training the first year. the Dutch navy you need more than 1 year to become Able seaman 1st class .it takes over 2 years of education to become a corporal So pay is low . like any job , And when you become fully operational the money comes flowing in . As i can remember that when i was an civilian electrician 18 years old i earned 1600 a month with out taxes and i earned 2400 a month 1 year in doing the same job .
It all depends what type of education you had and which service you apply for . A soldier never earns as much as a navy sailor as the level of education needed is a huge difference.
the pay has become alot beter since last year specialy in the lower ranks so it should be alot beter now
I think military service should be about protecting your county, and not about money.
@@TONSBERG100 I understand you philosophically but unfortunately bills have to be paid as well. If you volunteer for the Army knowing what you get paid that's ones own choice. Personally I didn't have the choice of refusing military service because in my time I was drafted. Back then it the pay was minimal and after leaaving I started to work and made 500 more instantly.
The Dutch government has gambled that with our army. They have assumed that the risk of war is small because we are surrounded by allies. They cut back so much that there was no longer a full-fledged army. Fortunately, they have now realized that we cannot rely solely on a quickly deployable unit. Now they are busy rebuilding everything.
Ik vond defensie ook altijd geld verspilling, maar nu hebben we nog tijd om te reageren.
@@Filippenzen413 Ik heb defensie nooit als verspilling gezien, mijn vader en oom waren allebei beroepsmilitairen.
Maar ik weet wel dat er veel geld over de balk werd gegooid. Mijn vader was garage Commandant en zei, dat er heel veel goed gereedschap en materiaal werd verschroot , omdat het op dat moment niet nodig was.
Toen ik zelf in dienst zat, was ik monteur van vrachtwagens bij de Genie. Al deze vrachtwagens moesten in perfecte staat van onderhoud verkeren, dat hield in dat we om de haverklap alle remblokken ( al waren deze nog als nieuw) filters ( van de garage naar de stalling en weer terug naar de garage) en alle vloeistoffen ( motorolie, koelvloeistof, en meer dan 500 liter hydrauliek olie) moesten worden vervangen, terwijl de meeste van deze vrachtwagens al de tijd stil hadden gestaan.
Er werd dus ook in onze ogen veel verspild.
Maar defensie was wel noodzakelijk.
Zeker als je weet dat mijn opa, en mijn vader's vader 10 dagen na zijn 30e verjaardag in de tweede wereldoorlog werd vermoord.
Dutch army???? Let me cry of laughter please...guys go back to red light district and coffeshop and leave the fighting for real warriors like poland or the usa 😎
True, its more about repairing our defenses, not about expanding it.
Exactly, its more about repairing it and only then we can expand
The thing people misunderstand is Dutch military doctrine is much more about being a highly mobile intervention force than it is about being a conquer territory from the neighbours and occupy it force. The Luchtmobiele Brigade is probably the most impressive thing the Dutch have on offer. Which fits in nicely with a relatively light-weight force and a relatively large air-lift capability. Much like the Americans, the British and other large, modern armies, the Dutch can deploy quite significant power to anywhere on the globe within 24 hours.
And much like with the tanks that are leased from Germany, the Dutch also have a small number of nuclear weapons in store from the Americans. Technically those are American weapons, stored on Dutch airbases, but the Dutch F16s as well as the F35s are capable of deploying those weapons.
Dutch army???? Let me cry of laughter please...guys go back to red light district and coffeshop and leave the fighting for real warriors like poland or the usa 😎
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You forgot to mention the Dutch Marine corps.
They are one of the oldest Marines corps of the world.
The Corps was founded by the worldfamous Admiral de Ruyter who needed specialised sea-soldiers for defending Ships from enemy sailors entering and Ship to shore combat.
They are the special forces for the Navy like the Commando's are for the Army.
To this day Dutch Marines are often stationed on Dutch/NATO Merchant ships in the pirate infested water part of the journey.
The Spanish marine corps was founded in 1537 and is the oldest still-active marine corps in the world, while the Netherlands marine corps, founded in 1665, is the fifth-oldest after Spain, Portugal, France and the Brits. Even today, marines in most countries are specially trained sea-soldiers who are part of the navy while the Marine Corps in the Netherlands are considered elite soldiers as well like in the United Kingdom.
I was a dutch marine for more than 10 years.Because of our strong relations with the british Marines,as UK/NL Amfibious Force i have learned a lot from the british marines.But you are right about the Spanish they are the oldest Marines.Then you have the Portuges,French and British.And the dutch marines as fifth in 1665 QPO@@PeterArmand70
Ehh.... NL only has a naval about 400 years old, it's BY FAR not the oldest. That one has to go to the ancient empires as Persia (modern day Iran) for example, which have been active since B.C.
@@PeterArmand70 GEUZEN
@@miay1838, we were talking about marines not navies…😉
The Dutch still have a golden age going in agriculture (2nd largest exporter in the world) and IT (ASML and Eindhoven Brainport).
EINDHOVUUUUHHHHH
@@feekalphabeet9217Mr. President the conference is this way.
Agriculture!? Farmers have dipped The Netherlands in the biggest crisis since the occupation by the Germans!!!
I currently work at the truck production plant of Scania which also makes the new military trucks for the Dutch army and it does bring a smile to my face seeing how much trucks for the army we are making now
Don't forget to make them about an inch little less tall... :)
@@pietvanvliet1987otherwise we have to decrease pressure in the tires hehe
Zwolleeeeuuuuh!
while i was on base i heard stories from the radio guys that the goverment orderd the wrong sized trucks by misstake xD i love being there man
The contents of this video suggest that it was very hastily made. Perhaps the script was AI generated. A lot of ships in the Dutch Navy fleet are not even mentioned in the video, while it is such an easy topic to get a comprehensive list of.
The title also does not reflect the contents of the video.
Yup this felt very AI like. I also doubt these numbers and whatever numbers are actually known for sure, im sure the military has more to offer that wont be released out in the open like every other country does.
They just gave 100% of air force away
Its not 100% of our airforce. We have f35 fighters, nh90 helicopters, chinook helicopters, eurocopters, apache attack helicopters, c130 transports and others that i forgot
All our f16 that we are gonna give to ukraine are old and we wanted to replace them with f35. We currently have around 20-30 of them but 52 are planned
Definitely not
You forget they bought about eighty jsf 35 airplanes.
Even if that was true, it is to combat the only Enemy were are likely to encourage in the next ten years. So a win anyway.
I am Dutch, do we have an army?😂
Inderdaad 😂
Ja😂
haha
The suspension of national service in 1996 . has one thing to do with it , 2nd huge budget cuts in the 2000s .
going from 244 F16s to 48 Going from a navy of 20 frigates 6 submarines 15 mine hunters 2 supply ships ( dozens of auxilery boats and ships) 13 PC-3 orions . to 6 frigates ,4 submarines 6 mine hunters , 2 LPD 1 JSS combat suport ship . and 4 ocp
800 tanks , 93 geppards , thousands of armoured vehicles artillery pieces . Airdefenses .
Over 300.000 troops . to no tanks a few geppards in long term storage . still quite a lot of Armoured fighting vehicles.
Main issue , Budget cuts , 2nd larbour shortage , where you can frankly ask what you want and they pay for it .
The European wars of the 1600s and 1700s had a great impact upon the founding of the USA. I am sure you know about New Amsterdam and the settlement of the Hudson River valley. It was the fear of the religious European wars of the 1700s that motivated our Founders to create our present form of government.
Actually, it wasn't. One only has take a single look at the USA's constitution to see that it was copied from the Dutch constitution.
Much like how the "fear of religious persecution" was never a thing, because the fact is that those who would later set up the USA hated the fact that they were unable to subject the people to their own religious will, the history of the USA is largely lies built upon lies to make the people feel better. To feel like the underdog if you will. They left because they weren't able to do persecute people for their beliefs, especially in the Netherlands. They got their little dictator asses kicked out of Europe for the very reason they claimed they founded the country.
@@therealdutchidiot Amirian colonial history revolves around the three regions of: New England, Virginia Tidewater, and the Carolinas. Your interpretation is New England-ish. The major writers of the U.S. Constitution were tidewater planters of English decent. Most were Deists.
@@chrisconklin2981 Deists who copied the Dutch constitution, and only tthen made very minor changes.
You mean copying the dutch plakkaat van verlatingen (dutch declaration of independence ) Freedom of religion etc etc .
Such a shame religious extremism is taking a flight in the US now.
Yeah we were so powerful we got our arse kicked out of Sebrenica in 1995!!!
Who is "WE"?
@@Demun1649We is the Dutch And the Dutch are not the stupid government nowa days.
@@hettykromdijk2910 Sebrenica was not an arse kicking. It was a naive commander who betrayed his own troops, and, more importantly, the civilians they were meant to protect. He made the dangerous, assumption that he was dealing with honest opposition, rather than brainwashed, ignorant Nazis. Anyone who has served knows that you NEVER rely on an officer in combat situations for the first time. He panicked, simple. Luckily, the French did not.
@@Demun1649 You mean the same French NATO commander that did not provide aircover when the Dutch asked them for it?
@@ReneAltena Air cover was not requested from the French forces. Where did you get that from? The sad truth is that the soldiers were in a situation of being in danger, but lacking any officers who needed to act like officers, and not scared little kids. They betrayed their own soldiers.
I come from Indonesia, but I have a biological father who is a descendant of soldiers from the Netherlands, until now my father has never seen his father's face since he was little and this happened during the second military aggression in Indonesia, I hope my father can find his biological father or his siblings are in the Netherlands.😢😢
A military giant? 😂😂😂 Give me a fucking break. Just a few years ago we didn’t even have fucking bullets to train with. Soldiers were shouting *bang bang* for training purposes. Now the same dipship that never respected the 2% norm is heading NATO. Let’s call it out for what it is: a clusterfuck.
In 1989 the Royal Air Force had about 200 F-16's. Now they have purchased some 50 F-35's. Around 1989 the Royal Navy had about 20 frigates. Now they have six, of which one is decommissioned because of lack of crew to sail it. In 1989 the Royal Army had two active and one reserve divisions. Now there are just three combat brigades. Don't make up a bullshit story about the Dutch being a military giant. They're not
The Dutch Army is a Joke
And 1000 Tanks and now we leased them from the Germans what a joke
The Netherlands is a poor excuse for an army.
The last time that the Netherlands were truly badass, was during the golden era.
what do you even mean? VOC had nothign to do with the dutch goverment it was a own company with there own massive fleet, the goverment should be happy they got a little cut back than
about the navy, we also have 2 karel doorman class frigets. called the ZR. MS. Van Amstel and the Van speijk. those 2 ships are multi purpose frigets so they are used for searching for subs and can defend its self against aircraft
Seriously, what is this for a shiity video, asking us questions and not giving any answer.😮 Indeed NL is almost a military super power. The 18 tanks frighten me the most, if they are operational that is.
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I agree the Dutch also combined military forces with Germany and the Dutch has the BEST boat engineers
@@DucktheDuckk Don't underestimate the Dutch effectiveness with the F-35 strikers too.
Russia took those tanks out in one day, so we have none now.
17 million people and only 50,000 in military of which 8,000 are in reserve. Very small commitment and no future superpower here
Sadly yes
Also the Netherlands has no significant defense industry
The Dutch can deliver chips that the rest of the world can't. Chips rule the world
@@qpaulussen8803 I think you mean asml, but they make the chip machines that produces the chips, that is different from what you mean! The Dutch NXP makes chips, but I don't think the whole world is dependent on them, the most advanced chips come from Taiwan, according to everything
@crocket1971 the car industry apparently used nxp chips.... I am told
at 3:34 it says 'marsose', which is incorrect. 'Marsose' is an Indonesian word that comes from the Dutch 'Marechaussee' (which comes from the French). So the correct word would be 'Royal Dutch Marechaussee'
18 main battle tanks 🤣 Now look today in the war in Ukraine how many tanks you need and need to be built to compensate for the losses. 18 tanks are taken out in a day.
I have huge faith in the Dutch personell and their training. They only needed more funding, which was lacking for a long time. Now, since a few years, it seems they finally somewhat get the funding they need. If I was in power I would give them even more tho., because they have huge potential.
Can you imagine that we had almost 1000 battle tanks in the 1990 and now we lease 18 leopard A6 from the Germans? I think we are one off the weakest armies according to tanks, fighterjets. amoured vehicles. There is a lot to do to become stronger again.
The CORRUPT Governments has destroy our Military over all the years.
Ships,Tanks,Airplanes,
Our Army doesn't exist anymore only on paper.
De Netherlands has a couple of flowers in its arsenal, that potentially could help prevent war.
Dutch residents should not be lazy and relax on the couch if we as Dutch people want to be taken seriously, we also have to do something
Tell that to the politicians, oh wait, they never listen and never take action when needed most.
The Dutch military is hardly a force to be reckoned with, witch is something you can expect from such a small country. But the air force. navy and special forces are praised by everyone who ever worked with them in the field. They may be small in numbers but modern and very well trained, what makes them a very reliable allie within NATO. Don't forget the Marines were originally created by the Dutch first. Another positive is the high level of technology in the Netherlands. More than once Dutch modifications in acquired weapon systems made them better than the original product. So all in all we are doing not too shabby for such a small nation, in spite the fact that we do prefer to spent our money on health, education and infra structure than on our army. Wich makes sense, since we have no intention to invade Belgium or any other neighbour.
This tube is not correct, you are missing information
The dutch has a total of 6 frigates not 4. New mineships are being build
2 M Fregats and 4 LCF
All 6 are to old
Our Navy is a Joke we had in the 80s more than 20 Good Fregats
You left alot out, are navy has one more ship type you didn't mention, the joint support vessels ( we have 3 of them) the dutch navy is also fused with the belgium navy ( called benesam) and since the fall of the Berlin wall, our goverment didn't feel the need for a large military force. In the army we do not own main battle tanks any more, we sold all of our leopard tanks. The yellow riders now operate in cooperation with Germany German tanks, and don't own any mbt,s our selfs. It is so stupid we went from 995 mbt,s to 0 in less then 3 decades.
I don't think the royal dutch airforce isn't to pleased that the 24 f16s are already send to Ukraine. Since we ordered the new f35 and the full amount of f35 armt delivered yet.
In comparison with the ww2 and cold war era, I think the dutch armed forces today are nothing of what it used to be, don't forget for a country so small we could compete with the biggest nations in the world.
And you know why the new submarines are going to be build in Germany? That is because in the last 40 years the dry docks were the walrus class was build don't exist anymore and the knowhow and experience to build subs got lost.
What I do appreciate int the army, is their capability and capacity, to actualy work with earth moving equipment like wheel loaders excavators, and bulldozer these are the dutch army genie companie.
And the korps commando troepen ( kct) are nott the only special forces in our armed forces. We also have a special forces unit in the royal dutch marine core named nl morsaf ( former bbe) and we have aivd kinda like Cia/fbi.
And the royal Marishousee is comparable with atf border patrol.
As far as the dutch patriotism goes, I think there are more that would love to join the dutch armed forces, but politics and .assume budget cuts from the last 30 years contributed greatly in the number of personal in the dutch armed forces.
And I rather see my tax euro,s be spended on our armed forces then, it getting spend on worthless projects like they do at the moment.
( tried to join the dutch armed forces in 2004, 2005 and 2006) and every single time it was the same awnser " deu to budget cuts we are not hiring right now, try again next year. So I eventually gave up, and staid in the profession, I still work today. ( operating hydraulic excavators)
But I'm full of pride to our men and woman in the dutch armed forces.
And if you're interested, you could look up, Peter van uhm commander of the dutch armed forces ( retired) why I choose the gun speech. Think you would appreciate that.
"...royal dutch marine core named nl morsaf ..."
MARSOF
@@Jila_Tana thst was a typo... your 100% correct.😅
We never had an aircraft carrier, Karel Doorman is/was a resupply vessel
All the Leopard Tanks wee given back to Germany many years ago. Infantry need Tanks, ask any Infantryman.
the 21th century is the golden age for the Netherlands.
ASML knows it.
The dutch were never colonizers they were traders. They more or less stumbled their way into colonization. Their military strength did not come from colonies, but from trade and ingenuity. Windmills and cooperative society to outpace their rivals in production, genius designs by brilliant men to make better use of what they had, and the principles of liberty to allow great men to rise to the task instead of letting nobles fumble.
Michiel de Ruyter being a great example of when the value of nobility came into conflict with the ideal of allowing the great to take their place, allowing the dutch to win some of the most difficult battles possible, and sadly also a reminder of the decline of said value towards the end taking away said strength from the nation..
Though to answer the question: the dutch is not about to turn into a military power. There simply is no taste for it in the population and no benefit to be gained for the nation. What are we going to do with said navy? Invade Britain? At most we'll expand our capabilities to improve our ability to assist NATO and EU initiatives with combat power.
Netherlands. A military giant? lol. Give it a rest.
The Netherlands has a OK army for it’s size as a country. You can’t compare it to a world power like USA or Sweden but it still has a somewhat modern arsenal of weapons capable of supporting other countries in combat missions.
Sweden a world power? What are you smoking?
Addition to your info. We boight 22 extra F-35. Starting a new division of MLRS (I thought we bought 40 from Israel. Also there are adiditonal armed raptors coming and pateiot systems. Next will we a new tank divsion, currently this is a group that operates with Germany.
We will see
My father was a marine on the Karel Doorman aircraft carrier. Proud marine.
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In 2018 Dutch soldiers had to shout “bang bang” because they where out of bullets. Im from the Netherlands and was in the military. At this moment we have the worse army ever.
Wrong info: The Netherlands was NOT a Kingdom during the 17th century. We were a Republic from 1588 until 1795
We don't have a big military because our ex- prime ministers lowered the military budget of the Netherlands (if we look at the GBD) by 300% since 1980.
Although the military budget of the Netherlands is relatively big, it's mostly spent at the modern vehicles and technology of the dutch military.
New regulations of NATO state that all NATO countries need to spend at least 2% of its GBD on the military.
That equals to 23,540,000 million Euro. so its a 'big' improvement from todays military budget (28% improvement).
This will mean that the salary of a soldier will improve, therefore more people will be interested to join.
You still forgot the marines, and especially Marsof, which is an elite group within the marines. And the elite regiment of the army: Koninklijke Luchtbrigade. And in the mean time, the Ducth military staff gave order to expand the Air Force to 52 F-35's.
Recent years, the Ducth government has given the militery 5 Billion extra per year. This is being used to modernized an fully equip the army. The only problem that remains getting enough personnel.
Don’t forget the Dutch chip power from ASML
ASML... it won't take long for that company will also leave holland....and go abroad.... thanx to mismanagement of a criminal government.... with Mark Rutte as the head clown ....doing everything in his power to get to Nato.....that whats going on here ...nothing else...😢
Yes when they spend 15 billion euros they must have a good military. The navy is combined with belgium but the dutch navy is significant bigger. The jsf 35 is one of the most advanced fighterjets.
Dutch army???? Let me cry of laughter please...guys go back to red light district and coffeshop and leave the fighting for real warriors like poland or the usa 😎
the army has to practice without ammo, because there is no stock.....
Laughed my ass off looking at the name of the video....
The Netherlands hardly has any military left thanks to the budgetcuts in the past 20 years....
5 huge airbases gone thanks to the budget cuts. 170 F-16's divided over 12 squadrons on those 5 airbases..gone, because the government needed money for other stupid things.
The Airbase i worked at back in 2004 / 2008 is Airbase leeuwarden in the northern part of the Netherlands.
When i left, the Airforce had atleast 3800 personall on the base "excluding civilians" ...nowadays we dont even have 800 people there.
In 1990 the Netherlands Airforce had 204 f-16's now we dont even have 30 F-35's across the two remaining airbases we have left.
in 1994 all the military branches of the Netherlands combined held approxximatly 240 / 250.000 people.... nowadays we dont even have 40.000.
That pretty much explains why we're weak as a military. we dont even have enough bullets for our rifles according to my friend thats still a soldier in the army.
Its ridiculous how far we've come.
It was not Maurits (Maurice) who initiated the revolt against Spain, but his father Willem de Zwijger (William the Silent), otherwise called Willem van Oranje-Nassau.
Military Giant, no. Force to be recond with, YES
"De echt Nederlandse ware patriotten."
De ware patriotten dat mogen wij zijn.
Langs marcheren voor vadertje staat.
Geboren helden van ons moederland.
De echt Nederlandse ware patriotten.
De ware patriotten dat kunnen wij zijn.
Ons hart vol van liefde voor ons land.
Klaar om te vechten voor den koning.
De echt Nederlandse ware patriotten.
De ware patriotten dat zullen wij zijn.
Geloof en verstand totaal overtuigd.
De ziel en wil gebrand op ons gelijk.
De echt Nederlandse ware patriotten.
De ware patriotten dat willen wij zijn.
Wie dan maar ook uit ons land komt.
Sluit zich natuurlijk direkt bij ons aan.
De echt Nederlandse ware patriotten.
De ware patriotten dat moeten wij zijn.
Dan dragen wij allemaal oranje kledij.
Hijsen de vlaggen rood, wit en blauw.
De echt Nederlandse ware patriotten.
We need to upgrade our military ASAP !!
netherlands is a superpower bro they control the whole ocean
Maker probably been smoking shit from Amsterdam
It’s called the beggar’s army. They are very well trained but no material
*Reads Title*
:Laughs This should be Rich.
How they can become Military Giant when they don't even produce their own weapons?
I am from the Netherlands. This story is greatly exaggerated
F-16's already arrived in Ukraine.
Batavia is NOT a warship, but a V.O.C. ship, meaning it's a merchant ship. The Amsterdam is also a merchant vessel.
The R81 was a legendary ship for the fleet, still to this day a huge missing part of the navy is a replacement for this ship. There was originally a second carrier to be added to the wanted list but cancelled later on.
4 Alkmaar class ships have been donated to Ukraine, the 5th will likely go as well.
Only 4 of those submarines are ordered to replace the 4 currently in service.
The Leo 2's are NOT Dutch owned or leased, but on loan from Germany to form a German/Dutch battalion. There is a big difference there.
C-130's are set to be replaced by 4 Embraer C-390M, which is clearly a lot smaller.
PC-7's are about to be retired as well, I'm not sue what aircraft will replace those if any.
And right now, no the Dutch armed forces are not capable of doing much. Yet still those within it are far better trained then even the US troops.
the embrears are faster, fly higher and don't need an long runway
If you can't fix the crises upon crises you made internally, create a crisis externally.
Isn't the future of warfare intelligence, remote controlled, and automatous drones?
The Netherlands, a "formidable military force in Europe"... Is that a joke ??? With 34 fighters, a single tank squadron and six frigates ???
For anybody coming to get an answer to the question in the title. The question isn't answered, don't waste your time on this.
I am Dutch and we are a military Dwarf, unfortunately.
William the third a Dutchman ( the house of orange ) was ones the king of England, Scotland and Ireland 1689 - 1702.. Yeah ones the mighty Dutch fleet rules the waves... today it's another story..
The budget has more than doubled because of the war in Europe, with an added 2x factor for half a decade to climb back to the minimum requirements for readiness... According to official raports done by the previous ministers of Defence, full combat readiness will take 20-30 years for the Dutch because of severe budget cuts, horrible mental health care and evaporation of many entire weapon systems and knowledge, know-how and combat experience. There are 9.000 unfilled positions in their armed forces and of the total 69.000 employees, over 20.000 are civilian occupations currently...
2 of 6 fregats are operational, they sold all combat operational tanks, over half the F35's will only collect dust for many years due to lack of pilots to fly them, no air defence systems (the newly purchased were gifted to ukraine before even reaching the Dutch). The list goes on and on for pages about all the missing yet critically important things that are lacking or not even present...
We had a much better army hope it will get good again with alot of new people that will lead the country soon.
They lost all credibility when they abandoned the Bosnian muslims in Srebrenica to be massacred by the Serbs
Lmao, superpower???? The Dutch r too scared and infantile to the State , to be able to fight and ex premier Rutte is just a nerd with a powertrip.
😂😂im dutch and im sure netherlands (benelux) army is NOT a millitary (super) power. It maybe was with VOC but its many super power years ago
You forgot koninklijke Mariniers
Your info is not complete. The Dutch navy is building 31 new ships till 2030. And at the moment 29 exclusive the small vessels.4 submarines 1 joint support vessel 2 landing platform vessels 4 air defense frigates 2 multi purpose 4 patrol vessels 5 minehunters 1 torpedo work vessel 4 dive support vessels 2 hydrographic 1 support vessel and trainings vessels
Do really believe that,their is no time for building these ships
NATO wants start a war against a Russia
Do you really understand whats coming as these NATO Lunatics provoke a war with Russia?
We will be destroyed in seconds
as a Dutch im laughing so hard.....we are nothing....we dont even have our own tanks lmfao
Bruh, stop asking me questions. I'm here so you can answer mine 😂
Two of the c-130 are modified to be a few feet longer
Do your own research. Don't use ai and don't use a computer generated voice. You even could pronounce and write Marechaussee correct.
Im dutch myself this video is fun
I asked a pensionated militairy guy, if he could do it all again today, would he choose for a mil.career again ? He answered me that it would be the biggest mistake you can make today. It's no more a fight between men, it's a fight against computars and machines. 😂😂😂 He said that you are a moreon to choose the army. 😂😂😂
The new German tank design is interesting. No turret crew and anti drone automated gun on top as well. Seems lessons are being learned.
What about the new submarines replacing the current one's.
We dont even have ground forces anymore, those are now under german command 😂😂😂 we have given our army away hahahaha
????? Fascinating SF topic,
The title of this video is absolutely ridiculous. The only that’s serious about building their armed forces is Poland.
Small armed forces can't win Indonesian force
You ask a bit to much questions :) it's good to ask for interactment in the comments, but because you ask our minds about something so often, it begins to feel like you researched a bit, and didnt wanna deepdive, so you ask the watchers to inform you more.
I know that's not the case :) just starts to feel like it a bit, great video otherwise!
No offense, but the suggestion of the title is quite over the top.
Militarism is my hobby and im living in the Netherlands. But overall - our current forces are decent, but far from a military giant. The reverse claim about them to be a joke is also not correct, but closer to the reality after all. As with many European countries - we reached a bottom, lacked fundamentel investements in defense. While we woke up now, it might take years if not more then a decade to reverse this.
It is better to live in peace than in war time. The US initiated this war against Russia via NATO. It is not an European war.
Europe got abused by the US. We must go back to decent thinking. If we can't beat Russia (nobody can), lets join and forget the declining USA. Their time is over.
The've outsourced their earning capacity to cheap labor countries from the mid '60s, and now they complain about the producing countries (Germany and China).
Trump's MAGA is impossible, and everybody knows that. Asia is the new economic centre. Europe should join them in their prosperity, happiness and wealth.
Nigeria above netherlands? Mate the netherlands would dump on them in a week with air dominance, who makes those lists lmao
1:43 17,300,000 Milj. ppl ere in the Netherlands?? Are u crazy? Make that 19,000,000 19-9-2023 And another 1,000,000 flokkin' the streets.
allemaal immigranten. ze willen het leger niet in, daarom kwamen ze ook hier heen
17.9 million currently according to the news today.
While quantity is a skill on its own, The Dutch use quality over quantity. With a small population it's impossible to maintain a large professional army and though many cost cutting measures have been taking place over the last 2 decades thinking the threat from the east was gone recent developments in the Ukraine has shown the Dutch government that those cuts were premature.
Military spending has and will be further increased to (re)build a highly mobile, quick deployable and flexible Army that will be able to play a major role and be a reliable partner within NATO and our friends around the world.
Rebuilding what has been lost will take time, but the Dutch will always be able to punch well above their weight as we have shown in the last 25 years during peace keeping and peace enforcing missions.
The Dutch motto is: Je Maintiendrai which means depending on the context: I will maintain, I will defend or I will support.
Joining the Dutch Army is not about earning a lot of money though the salary is decent enough especially if you consider the hazard pay during exercises and missions.
Many young Dutch (Including myself with 12 years with the Armoured Infantry 42BLJ) join after right after highschool to a.) Serve our country and help make the world, no matter how small our contribution is to be a better place and b.) while being enlisted enjoy the nearly unlimited educational opportunities fully paid and during working hours.
i like the video a lot but please stop asking a question to the people every 10sec to trigger conversation, just explain the video without that.. + why is Amsterdams location wrong on that map lol
Endless discussions about changing some submarines, selling all tanks and maritime patrol planes... Don't make me laugh. It will never be a super power.
We had 1000 tanks in the 70's though.
4 new submrines (French probably) and 4 new Fregats (Dutch) are ordered.
Heard the Belgians also want 3 of those frigates. Making the development of surface ships for the future more relevant. I say we should really invest in our navy and naval production capacity.
How do u feel about this channel, what do u think🤣🤣🤣
By now our country is number 25 in military power
Shocking and based purely on naval and Airforce power. We barely have a standing army. Everything got cut in budget cuts.
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this whole video sounds like it was written by AI
Yes and Mark Rutte voorop on his bicycle and a fricandelletje🤣🤣🤘
Free, palasthine 🇦🇪😉
All these people in the comments laughing but they havent even seen the video
In 1940 it took Nazi Deutschland 5 days to occupy the Netherlands. Nowadays, they will do this in less than 24 hours!!!
no , its a joke.
throw a granate in it. lets see how big or small the joke is.
@@dennisgaatjeniksaan2132Berer gooi je die granaat en 4 dozijnen ervan meer in die 2 de kamer zal een hoop problemen oplossen. Zolang die schele rat aan da roer staat heeft nl enkeltje de afgrond in
@@pieterpost563 Ding ding ding, we hebben weer een voorbeeld van bezuinigen op GGZ is slecht.
@@letheas6175 wil je best afgooien in vrederust hoor zit hier om de hoek namelijk . Lekker vvd blijven stemmen en je land weg laten geven tot je zelf op de vlucht kunt 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is a lie😂 we dont even have a army to defend ourselves we gave all of our fighter jets away😂😂
Yeah we just have a bunch of over expensive F35's left. Pretty sure we should have went with the Swedish Gripen. But nope. We went shopping in the USA (again) instead.
Lol you have to have all the papers to get in there even if you wanted really bad they would not let you join thats wy the army is that small that wasnt always like that they need to change it
Feest gaat beginnen mark rutten is. Al bin s weg. Ook ze meden. Vrienden
stop asking a question every 1 minute 😅