Exactly my thought. I owned a set of those wheels on my XC race bike and traded them for Reserve 28 XCs because i thought they where to stiff, even for my race bike. They would totally break them.
You could up the sum easily by more than 2k with an Actofive P-Train frame. The price is 6750€ without a shock. Its fully cnc machined out of an aluminum block, stunningly beautiful and you can choose your anodization color (for even more money). Edit: Fun fact since you mentioned that Trickstuff also comes from Freiburg: Cornelius Kapfinger was the original Trickstuff engineer who helped develop their brakes, I think he also helped develop the Maxima. He has his own brake now - The Intend Trinity which lives in the same price bracket.
This was an exercise in excess and frivolity. I would like to see a buildup only using the most proven durable, reliable cost effective parts. Doesn't mean the cheapest and doesn't mean the most expensive but rather the best overall value.
@@MineGames131 36 perf elite, normal dpx, shimano slx m7120 drivetrain and brakes, nukeproof horizon v2 wheels, oneup v2 dropper. id say what ever frame that fits that style of parts will perform more than well enough.
@@pietrocampanocruz5071 That build list will make a bombproof bike. Worth noting you can save some money switching to Deore brakes and have nearly identical power to the SLX set, and spend that extra money on an XT shifter to get Dual release.
If your getting the rear shock tuned you may as well do the same with the fork and buy it through Rulezman in Italy, only €3500..... While your at it buy the axs drivetrain and shifter through Hopp carbon parts - €1300 for the mech and shifter, and that's for the older version so opens up options on the drivetrain for pricier compatible parts.
I have built am enduro bike with carbon main triangle, trustworthy 1x11 drivetrain and bombproof downhill wheels. For 1800€. If we have more budget, we can get an even more capable downhill bike for 3000 eur and you can buy tickets/uphill lifts for half of your life from the remaining 20k. 😅
Can´t believe I noticed that the postmount adapters and the centerlock adapter for the brake discs where missing, as well the front chain ring and tire sealant. I would have also added a bike wrap of some kind, chainguide, bashguard and handguards... ;)
Could have chucked some Garmin Rally XC on for around £950. Would need a head unit and mount to go on. Also, where are the lights for this time of year? Could probably drop a grand on that.
I ride with rev grips for last 3 years. Love them. I had constant pain in my left hand after a bad crush. Grips helped me to keep on riding while healing instead of taking a break. For me $100 is not that much money for little extra comfort on 6K bike. BTW I also have that bottle cage. Dunno why it is $118. It is listed at $80 here in US and I paid about $50 on sell. Best color match for Factory fork.
This was fun in a ridiculous way and I would love to see a video on building the best bike, with real MTB parts (not Amazon/AliExpress stuff), for the cheapest price. I'll get you started with an aluminum hardtail with a Microshift Advent X drivetrain....
@lexusstefan927 - Microshift has problems with counterfeits on aliexpress like other brands. But they've never officially been available through any Aliexpress seller. In the US, I thought QBP was the only official distributor.
if the dc forks arent compatibe with the build just because they are downhill the wheels also have to go. the most expensive wheels you can get are handbuilt enve rims on chris kings (or using dt 180s i9 hubs or besat components rims) will get you to around 3k removing 2000 euoros, with getting components from good shops you can also remove around 1k, other than this i think the numbers are fairly accurate even though i think you can find more expensive parts if you dig hard enough, also you can more expensive pedals like the garmin ones the connect to your computer
Agreed, as cool as they are wheels aren’t up to enduro spec however something like onyx/extralite/tune hubs on berd spokes on some posh carbon rims could be up to standard, also the pulley cage isn’t compatible with the new sram transmission and they would have to run a sram t type chainring too. Compatibility for not only the parts to work but also for the bike to work as intended I think is important
im sure its just a matter of time before ceramicspeed will give us a compatible model and there are already t type compatible after market chain rings' aslo this wheel configuration will also cost around 3k. maybe a lil more@@samberrymtb4606
I can use bragging rights on this build! I had a six week bike packing holiday across Bolivia on my trusty Rayleigh Chopper, circa '76. We decided to air freight our bikes home, some came up with the idea to stuff the down tube with marching powder. On arrival at Heathrow, customs pulled us to one side and we're impressed with our bikes, apparently they had a street value of 4.2million! Lots of love, Prisoner 4130 ,HMP Wandsworth
That’s a great deal for a nice aluminum gravel frame with internal cable routing and the color pops. I see that Project 321 has new hubs in that whiskey color.
The tyrewiz isn’t compatible with fillmore valves. They don’t have a valve core. On a side note the Santa Cruz fillmore valves are well worth it. You can seat a new tire one handed with a floor pump.
I've got more than one 'epic' build item, on the justifiable standpoint that its a 'McLaren' level item, built for about 1/10,000 of an actual McLaren. It's fun to have things that are pinnacle, even if it's an item of lower market valuation, like $700 boots, a $200 copper sauce pan, an old Leica slr you found for $100, etc., etc.🙂 You're only here once, don't be one of those folks who die only thinking about what they didn't do.
@@andynelson1977- one of the things I've discovered is that- in buying quality- resale often shows some appreciation, or at least, little enough loss as to make the experience cover its own way. 😊
Does the CeramicSpeed OSPW you mentioned actually fit? It said Force and Red on the picture shown and I don't know if they make one for Transmission yet
So basically this bike costs more than my 7kg road bike, my 9,5 kg xc hardtail, my 10 kg folding bike, and my 215 hp hot hatch car all together. Something in this world has gone haywire. Badly. Just say no. Come on!
uhm, did anyone notice that that ospw is for road bikes? they dont produce any advantage when paired on less efficent mtb trains its why you don't see them offered by manufacturer oems or auth dealers and well, we wont get into trick bits of custom parts ya?
Well being a boutique builder I can confirm this is pretty impressive but there are way more expensive mods. Speng 24k is a 10k euro wheelset, SRM pedals at 1400 euro, you could have broken the 30k euro without too many problems haha.
$700 Goat Saddle? I'll go for my Specialized 3D printed one for $325! I use ONLY Hope Brakes....they feel like magic and work and adjust flawlessly! I also use the wireless Sram Shifters....They always shift and adjust like NEW! $1,800 for Ti Jockey Wheels....INSANE!
Ok , but let's take in an another way , how much monthly salary would spend to a MTB ? I myself spent 14 months of almost untouched salary of mine , and it was a damn 5000 EU bike ...
Anyone/ company using graphene for their frames? There’s a fish rod uk company doing it on carbon fibre rods with graphene in the resin I believe. Their called century. Not seen anyone in the bike world doing it?
We've done this before, haven't we? I came up with a bike for 17K USD or so. All "practical" parts, no bling except for a custom paint job. All hypothetical of course. Atherton AM 170, 5500 USD frame only
It's not any more expensive necessarily, but if we're spending this type of money I feel like I have to go with the Antidote Carbon Jack. If I'm spending exotic money, it needs to look exotic!
You definitely forgot the Garmin Powermeter Pedals! For just 1000 quid you get accurate measurements. - of course you will additionally need a gps cycle computer to show the data at all... And those pedals are probably not even the most expensive Powermeter option.
This is what's wrong with the bike industry. Next year maybe a custom bike will cost 50.000 dollars, and the year after that maybe 100.000. People, please stop buying anything and I mean everything. The manufacturers have gone mad. 22.750 pounds for a bicycle? They got to come down to earth where people can barely live.
It would cost more than this, because the person buying this type of bike would want a custom paint job and someone else to put it together for them, you are looking at 30K at least.
love the idea of that project, but please: stay reasonable. And I don't say that with a look at the price, but at your own statements. You basically said that the bike should be able to work, but a enduro racerig cannot be combined with an XC wheelset, even if it was to be 10 grand! Same goes for pedals: I know that opinions may go different directions on this one, but I personally woudn't want to tackle an enduro race/day in the bikepark with pedals that literally are eggbeaters. It's like brands trying to shed weight of a bike by putting XC-sidewalled tyres on a DH-Bike.
Well I will stick with my cheap bikes. Still it's fun to see what you could do if you had the money. I think my Norco Ride 26 is my most heavily modified bike and that's just got a Colony pivotal seat and post and the Dabomb Axe pedals and with all that doesn't even come over $1000 dollars for the whole bike. Even my Trek Marlin 7 with upgraded handlebars, bottle cage, pump and pump bracket, drink bottle, pack rack and mud guards goes over $1600 and that's a fun machine. They do suit my riding but of course I am not as hard hitting as you guys are on a bike. I am talking Australian dollars too guys if you're thinking cheap builds. My bikes will handle a bit of punishment though.
Last national level race bike I fitted out in 2012, we had a budget of $1 usd per gram of weight saved in order to hit a target weight of 20lbs. ready to race, with 2 (empty) bottles and a toolkit. How it worked was that if a given item weighed 250g, if there was one of near equal quality/utility weighing 200g, it was worth $50 more. Frame and fork were spec'd by the rider, which gave me a fit, since the 'new' SID had actually *gained* 250g.! That, and our so called 900g frame actually weighing 1050g. really set us back. An amazing wheelset, tensioned as tight as a roadie's butthole put us back in the running.😄🤣😉
Production error here. Bike industry on its backside currently from public saying no to mega lifted prices. Top end big prices fine, but average has shot up and people are rejecting
Correct me if I'm worng.
But XC wheels on an enduro bike ? But Downhill forks not allowed ?
Exactly my thought. I owned a set of those wheels on my XC race bike and traded them for Reserve 28 XCs because i thought they where to stiff, even for my race bike. They would totally break them.
You could up the sum easily by more than 2k with an Actofive P-Train frame. The price is 6750€ without a shock. Its fully cnc machined out of an aluminum block, stunningly beautiful and you can choose your anodization color (for even more money).
Edit: Fun fact since you mentioned that Trickstuff also comes from Freiburg: Cornelius Kapfinger was the original Trickstuff engineer who helped develop their brakes, I think he also helped develop the Maxima. He has his own brake now - The Intend Trinity which lives in the same price bracket.
WHY? Many high end commercial bikes are already almost dentist only models. We need help on the bottom end, not the top end.
Agreed
Haha. Try working for a dentist…they’re so cheap, a lot of them don’t appreciate their employees..LOL!
Prob why they can afford these bikes!
Just a bit of fun man chill. Plenty of cheap bike videos about.
As long as someone is willing to pay, they will jack up the price.
Orthodontics and surgeons only...
This was an exercise in excess and frivolity. I would like to see a buildup only using the most proven durable, reliable cost effective parts. Doesn't mean the cheapest and doesn't mean the most expensive but rather the best overall value.
Agree- and i would guess this is far more difficult than just search for the most expensive part!
That's very subjective
IMO I would say Fox Performance or Perf Elite, and Shimano SLX with XT shifter seem like the best bulletproof components at the moment.
@@MineGames131 36 perf elite, normal dpx, shimano slx m7120 drivetrain and brakes, nukeproof horizon v2 wheels, oneup v2 dropper. id say what ever frame that fits that style of parts will perform more than well enough.
@@pietrocampanocruz5071 That build list will make a bombproof bike. Worth noting you can save some money switching to Deore brakes and have nearly identical power to the SLX set, and spend that extra money on an XT shifter to get Dual release.
Theoretically seen, no-one would ride an XC wheelset on an Enduro bike
If your getting the rear shock tuned you may as well do the same with the fork and buy it through Rulezman in Italy, only €3500.....
While your at it buy the axs drivetrain and shifter through Hopp carbon parts - €1300 for the mech and shifter, and that's for the older version so opens up options on the drivetrain for pricier compatible parts.
Ok, added to cart and payed the bill..now you have to send entire package to Gee Milner for a very Dream build 😂
When the derailleur cage is worth more than my capable trail bike
When a chain costs the same as your rim set...
@@Ferrari255GTO ofc its fact carbon chain.
When the cage they picked is for road bikes and doesn't remotely fit on the derailleur they selected
"Worth more" or "Costs more"?
I have built am enduro bike with carbon main triangle, trustworthy 1x11 drivetrain and bombproof downhill wheels. For 1800€.
If we have more budget, we can get an even more capable downhill bike for 3000 eur and you can buy tickets/uphill lifts for half of your life from the remaining 20k. 😅
Love this! ❤ few more Ti bolt upgrades around the build too, 5DEV titanium chainring. Great thought experiment and a nuce bit of fun 👍👍
Can´t believe I noticed that the postmount adapters and the centerlock adapter for the brake discs where missing, as well the front chain ring and tire sealant. I would have also added a bike wrap of some kind, chainguide, bashguard and handguards... ;)
I guess it's a expensive push bike with foot brake now :)
Could have chucked some Garmin Rally XC on for around £950. Would need a head unit and mount to go on. Also, where are the lights for this time of year? Could probably drop a grand on that.
Won’t be pedaling for very far without a chainring
The type of person that goes out and buys this setup will only be posing anyway 😜
Don't forget the bottom bracket , 320.00-460.00 U.S.
Thanks for picking my next build, I was having a hard time finding the parts.
Companies charge these prices because consumers pay them.
I ride with rev grips for last 3 years. Love them. I had constant pain in my left hand after a bad crush. Grips helped me to keep on riding while healing instead of taking a break. For me $100 is not that much money for little extra comfort on 6K bike. BTW I also have that bottle cage. Dunno why it is $118. It is listed at $80 here in US and I paid about $50 on sell. Best color match for Factory fork.
This was fun in a ridiculous way and I would love to see a video on building the best bike, with real MTB parts (not Amazon/AliExpress stuff), for the cheapest price. I'll get you started with an aluminum hardtail with a Microshift Advent X drivetrain....
Microshift is literally a AliExpress brand which has has spread to some OE bikes during the pandemic
@lexusstefan927 - Microshift has problems with counterfeits on aliexpress like other brands. But they've never officially been available through any Aliexpress seller. In the US, I thought QBP was the only official distributor.
@@lexusstefan927 umm no.. that is wrong lol..
Did they get handlebars?
if the dc forks arent compatibe with the build just because they are downhill the wheels also have to go. the most expensive wheels you can get are handbuilt enve rims on chris kings (or using dt 180s i9 hubs or besat components rims) will get you to around 3k removing 2000 euoros, with getting components from good shops you can also remove around 1k, other than this i think the numbers are fairly accurate even though i think you can find more expensive parts if you dig hard enough, also you can more expensive pedals like the garmin ones the connect to your computer
Onyx hubs ???
same price if i remember correctly@@leehorspool9744
Agreed, as cool as they are wheels aren’t up to enduro spec however something like onyx/extralite/tune hubs on berd spokes on some posh carbon rims could be up to standard, also the pulley cage isn’t compatible with the new sram transmission and they would have to run a sram t type chainring too. Compatibility for not only the parts to work but also for the bike to work as intended I think is important
im sure its just a matter of time before ceramicspeed will give us a compatible model and there are already t type compatible after market chain rings' aslo this wheel configuration will also cost around 3k. maybe a lil more@@samberrymtb4606
I can use bragging rights on this build!
I had a six week bike packing holiday across Bolivia on my trusty Rayleigh Chopper, circa '76.
We decided to air freight our bikes home, some came up with the idea to stuff the down tube with marching powder.
On arrival at Heathrow, customs pulled us to one side and we're impressed with our bikes, apparently they had a street value of 4.2million!
Lots of love, Prisoner 4130 ,HMP Wandsworth
Are you writing from prison?
I never knew that push is in Loveland Colorado, I've lived there my entire life
I was surprised to find out I had something on the build list. Someone had to have Hope vented rotors on his last build... ❤👍🏼🤠
That’s a great deal for a nice aluminum gravel frame with internal cable routing and the color pops. I see that Project 321 has new hubs in that whiskey color.
Chain ring , chain guide? Jockey wheels are an upgrade to the already work sram...
The tyrewiz isn’t compatible with fillmore valves. They don’t have a valve core.
On a side note the Santa Cruz fillmore valves are well worth it. You can seat a new tire one handed with a floor pump.
A true reflection of the way the bike industry is leading us....
Isaac, killing it, nice work sir 💪
I've got more than one 'epic' build item, on the justifiable standpoint that its a 'McLaren' level item, built for about 1/10,000 of an actual McLaren. It's fun to have things that are pinnacle, even if it's an item of lower market valuation, like $700 boots, a $200 copper sauce pan, an old Leica slr you found for $100, etc., etc.🙂
You're only here once, don't be one of those folks who die only thinking about what they didn't do.
Exactly! "Can I afford it?" "Will I enjoy owning it?". If yes to both, push the button 🤘🤘
@@andynelson1977- one of the things I've discovered is that- in buying quality- resale often shows some appreciation, or at least, little enough loss as to make the experience cover its own way. 😊
What would the weight be?
max 2kg 🙂
i bet one of those cannondale lab71 mtb frames will be more expensive when they're available as frame-only
We need to see this build !
And a free giveaway!
That jockey wheel setup was ridiculous...
Enduro bike with XC wheelset, putting triple clamps on the SB160 isn't as farfetched (It's actually rated for triple clamps set to 190mm)
Does the CeramicSpeed OSPW you mentioned actually fit? It said Force and Red on the picture shown and I don't know if they make one for Transmission yet
Actually loved the vid, I was laughing along w the prices.
XC wheels on a SB160? and pedals too?
So basically this bike costs more than my 7kg road bike, my 9,5 kg xc hardtail, my 10 kg folding bike, and my 215 hp hot hatch car all together. Something in this world has gone haywire. Badly. Just say no. Come on!
You forgot frame n fork protection and chainring
You could include the Trickstuff hydraulic gyro module that has been discontinued but you can still get it aftermarket.
Why? It isn't really fitting or appropriate for this build, why include it?
Gonna need some tubeless sealant too
You need some shockwiz action on both the front and rear suspension!!
Tyrewiz is not compatible with fillmores, am I wrong?
Also the derailleur cage, is it?
uhm, did anyone notice that that ospw is for road bikes?
they dont produce any advantage when paired on less efficent mtb trains
its why you don't see them offered by manufacturer oems or auth dealers
and well, we wont get into trick bits of custom parts ya?
Well being a boutique builder I can confirm this is pretty impressive but there are way more expensive mods. Speng 24k is a 10k euro wheelset, SRM pedals at 1400 euro, you could have broken the 30k euro without too many problems haha.
I’m pretty sure CeramicSpeed doesn’t make OSPWs for SRAM Transmission yet. If they do, it’ll be a different model than shown
Build this bike.
$700 Goat Saddle? I'll go for my Specialized 3D printed one for $325! I use ONLY Hope Brakes....they feel like magic and work and adjust flawlessly! I also use the wireless Sram Shifters....They always shift and adjust like NEW! $1,800 for Ti Jockey Wheels....INSANE!
Was I daydreaming or did they miss the front and rear hubs? Or do those Syncros wheels have some sort of built in hubs you can't swap?
Hey guys! I don’t think That the TireWiz devices can be installed on the reserve valves.
Ok , but let's take in an another way , how much monthly salary would spend to a MTB ? I myself spent 14 months of almost untouched salary of mine , and it was a damn 5000 EU bike ...
Quarq tire wiz isn't compatible with Fillmore valves
Ooo you can put a dh fork on a sb 160 and have it work I did it to the sb 150
That would be great commuter bike :D How much would be bike lock for that?
Anyone/ company using graphene for their frames? There’s a fish rod uk company doing it on carbon fibre rods with graphene in the resin I believe. Their called century. Not seen anyone in the bike world doing it?
Tach on - chain guide, bash guard, Ti bolts, fender, chain lube, grease, derailleur hanger, chain slap protection, paint protection film, ceramic coating … another $5k
27k $? Sheesh, lemme win that lottery and ball out on a bike. 🥵🥵
If I won the lottery I'd probably spend +100000 on a bunch of bikes lol
Could maybe throw on a cascade link and get a extra ~300 in there?
Guys missed out the crown race! That’s like £3, it’s a game changing price!
We've done this before, haven't we? I came up with a bike for 17K USD or so. All "practical" parts, no bling except for a custom paint job. All hypothetical of course. Atherton AM 170, 5500 USD frame only
It's not any more expensive necessarily, but if we're spending this type of money I feel like I have to go with the Antidote Carbon Jack. If I'm spending exotic money, it needs to look exotic!
I guess the yeti frame price includes the shock (float X2 kashima), so you’d save a bit if you order it without shock…
Still, a whole lot of money 😬😬😬
The frame you pictured is a SB150 not a SB160
You definitely forgot the Garmin Powermeter Pedals! For just 1000 quid you get accurate measurements. - of course you will additionally need a gps cycle computer to show the data at all...
And those pedals are probably not even the most expensive Powermeter option.
Surely an exotic build needs a suitably expensive power meter??
Knock off £240 for the tyrewiz. It’s not compatible with Fillmore valves 😁
This is what's wrong with the bike industry. Next year maybe a custom bike will cost 50.000 dollars, and the year after that maybe 100.000. People, please stop buying anything and I mean everything. The manufacturers have gone mad. 22.750 pounds for a bicycle? They got to come down to earth where people can barely live.
Also on GMBN Tech: how the bike industry shafted itself by pricing consumers out of the market
Forgot telemetry for the suspension.
Ktm 350; excellent video.
now do the same but with chinese parts, comparable performance if possible
We need GMBN to build and ride this bike 😅
XC wheels on enduro?
Is this most expensive bike the same as the bikebuild you prefer the most?
It would cost more than this, because the person buying this type of bike would want a custom paint job and someone else to put it together for them, you are looking at 30K at least.
Rules were nothing custom
I don't think the V4 rotors actually fit in the Maxima as the rotors are 3.3mm and the Maxima only accepts rotors up to 2.3mm according to their FAQ.
CCM from Canadian tire. fuck yeah.
Even if you could afford it, I am reminded of the following saying. "A fool and his money are easily separated".
I wonder if you could get it higher with e bike
love the idea of that project, but please: stay reasonable. And I don't say that with a look at the price, but at your own statements. You basically said that the bike should be able to work, but a enduro racerig cannot be combined with an XC wheelset, even if it was to be 10 grand! Same goes for pedals: I know that opinions may go different directions on this one, but I personally woudn't want to tackle an enduro race/day in the bikepark with pedals that literally are eggbeaters.
It's like brands trying to shed weight of a bike by putting XC-sidewalled tyres on a DH-Bike.
Well I will stick with my cheap bikes. Still it's fun to see what you could do if you had the money. I think my Norco Ride 26 is my most heavily modified bike and that's just got a Colony pivotal seat and post and the Dabomb Axe pedals and with all that doesn't even come over $1000 dollars for the whole bike. Even my Trek Marlin 7 with upgraded handlebars, bottle cage, pump and pump bracket, drink bottle, pack rack and mud guards goes over $1600 and that's a fun machine. They do suit my riding but of course I am not as hard hitting as you guys are on a bike. I am talking Australian dollars too guys if you're thinking cheap builds. My bikes will handle a bit of punishment though.
dangerholm is watching this video and can't contain his laughter.
The Actofive P-Train is 6.7k € for Frame only! 😉
I think you missed out the chainring
Note to self …. don’t read the comments…just enjoy the free TV have a laugh and drink my tea.
Last national level race bike I fitted out in 2012, we had a budget of $1 usd per gram of weight saved in order to hit a target weight of 20lbs. ready to race, with 2 (empty) bottles and a toolkit. How it worked was that if a given item weighed 250g, if there was one of near equal quality/utility weighing 200g, it was worth $50 more. Frame and fork were spec'd by the rider, which gave me a fit, since the 'new' SID had actually *gained* 250g.! That, and our so called 900g frame actually weighing 1050g. really set us back. An amazing wheelset, tensioned as tight as a roadie's butthole put us back in the running.😄🤣😉
What about greebles... multitool, water bottle etc
Ceramic speed cage/pulleys aren't compatible either.
Shoddy work boys
Production error here. Bike industry on its backside currently from public saying no to mega lifted prices. Top end big prices fine, but average has shot up and people are rejecting
Not everyone is a dentist! 🤑
I miss Blake and the old days
VP Components Blade Titanium retail for 779€
BMC fourstroke 01 retails for 5999 US. 😮
i dont get how xc wheels go with an endero bike
so when do we get the build Video?😂
What does it weigh in a Large size? :-)
The fact is, prices of MTB's have gotten out of hand.. Completely ridiculous.
An ActoFive Party Train frame is way more expensive. Coming in at €6750 (and thats without the shock)
That was funny. Next I would like to see the cheapest bike from new parts only and none of that amazon/ebay crap. Order and build included of course.
Very interesting, I will pitch it to the team!
The shockwiz tyre pressure gauges won't work on those valves guys
Did not see a chainring in there ? 5Dev Ti £150
I'd really like to see that build😂
Not sure we'd have the budget for that! 💵
@@gmbn Understandable 😅. Still would be cool though