I work in a bike shop part time and you’d be surprised of how many people buy E-Bikes of similar quality and get mad at us when we say we can’t really fix them.
It's more 'economically not viable' than anything else. These types of bikes use old tech, which contemporary bike shops don't usually carry stock of - and even if they order the parts in, the labour cost would exceed the value of the bike. These sort of bikes are eminently fixable, but only if you source your own spares and do all the work. Bike shops aren't interested in them.
@@deadreckoner5276because they're crap. I've seen videos where such bikes we're ridden hard and in one case the fork suspension got so hot it melted. Couldn't really repair that fork, only buy a complete new one. In another case something in the hub broke after a few rides. Only way would have been to buy a new hub. Thus, part by part you upgrade the bike until you get a normal one because none of the components are from the original anymore. At this point, why not just buy a normal bike directly instead? 😂
Yep. If we get something in with a group set we've never heard of we don't touch it. Why? The parts can be cheap/poorly made and hard or too time-consuming to adjust.
I don't think Neil tested that thing properly. Stair set of doom, back flip, 8 ft drop to flat, drift until the rims fold in half. May as well get your 500 lbs worth of fun out of it.
to be honest, the riding section is quite short because the fork got so much more flexy that i felt it was only going to come apart if i kept riding it
I wonder how this fella from the reviews got on ... Reviewed in the United Kingdom on 13 October 2023 Colour Name: Red So this bike has been pushing my limits to the max. Slowly building up riding more and more insane trials. Going to fort William soon to try the world champs track will report back soon
I recently got a warning from Amazon for a semi colorful review (no swearing). I said I'd be coming after them for selling me a scam of a product. I guess that was too threatening. But it shows a lot of nerve that Amazon allows the vast majority of their products to be like this. I generally do not buy anything safety related on Amazon anymore unless it's a major brand that is sold elsewhere. This includes things like bikes, electrical, electronic, etc. That fork is poised to kill someone if they really push it.
Reminds me of my first mountain bike I bought when I first got into the sport and I knew nothing about bikes. I just went to the local department store bought one that was cheap and looked cool. Thankfully, I never encountered any catastrophic failures and even though it was a piece of junk I still had fun on it.
Department store bikes may not be the best, but they're better than this. Department stores don't want the liability of selling dangerous bikes. Amazon sellers, on the other hand, are never held accountable for anything.
For most of my childhood me and my buddies rode cheap Walmart mongoose mtbs lol. When that's all you know they're great. I didn't think it was even possible for gears to actually work perfectly. Then you get a "real" bike from a legit brand and it's like holy shit this is amazing!
Had a Huffy and a Maurray as a kid (diff ages and times - smaller kids bikes). Then graduated to a K-Mart Murray MTB I think it was $150 at the time ... rode that for about 1 year on this modified dirt bike technical trail in the woods until i launched off a jump and planted the front wheel into a tree. Early 90s - also didn't know anything about MTBs except they looked sturdier to ride off-road, Wouldn't learn about scale of quality (or pricing) until after the tree jumped out at me. I replaced that witha Mongoose Hilltopper (full rigid) for $600 and never looked back at cheaper bikes again. The K-Mart Murray > the front wheel was fine - the front fork was fine - the Head Tube was just long enough from the top bar to the down tube to pinch like Pac-Man's mouth and force the tire backwards towards the down tube. Technically the bike was still "ridable" but you had to sort of tack back and forth and couldn't ride ina straight line. Fond memories of that first MTB because it's what made me aware of trail riding and yes - lots of fun.
@@dylan-5287 And brakes too - don't forget the brakes (as in wow - this bike can stop without me skidding out of control or planting my feet like Fred Fintstone - I'm sure my mom kept track of how many shoes I burned though at the time).
Once I had to work on one just like this. It had a 8 speed threaded freewheel and the forks were probably even sketchier than this has for the looks of it. It was sold as a YOUMA. I really felt bad for the owner, as he probably had spent something like 600€ on it. The rails of the saddle just popped out while putting it on the repair stand. The forks bottomed out immediately and felt flexy as hell. Also it was put together wrong as there was one spacer under the upper crown making the headset all wonky. It was so bad that I felt I had to make a post on a big mountain biking FB group to warn people who maybe didn't know better. So now I'll watch the video.
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they just put all the features that usually "look cool" on a bike from a non mountain biker's point of view. double crown fork, full sus, especially a coil shock, disc brakes and fat tires
Maybe it wasn't meant to be ridden - maybe it was meant to be a lawn peice for someone's frontyard. Next to the pink flamingos and year round christmas decorations.
exactly. Garbage scam bike from china. Everything in its build and name is there to fool people who want to get into mtb but don't really know anything. Instead of building a usable and modest bike for 500, they built a useless one that will catch the eye of a newbie.
Ive been trying to figure out what im doing wrong when cornering but that clip at 4:01 onwards is the solution to my problem. Big thanks!!! Im excited to go back to Totora park this weekend🥳💪🏼
This was a better review than the one for the Eurobike done by the sister channel for roadies. Mor eobjective data and protrayed more seriously, without snobbery. I appreciate this.
I have seen people riding those bike on my commute to work. They look cheap and from what I could tell everyone of those bikes were making a huge amount of noise after about 2 weeks of riding and disappeared after 4 weeks.
Taiwan is known for producing some of the world's best bikes for some of the world's biggest bike companies. Then you get this junk just across the Strait on the mainland. Typical Amazon junk.
I love the guitar riff when going "fast" downhill. Makes me remember when I was just a young lad watching Rocky III during the scene when Apollo and Rocky start hugging each other in the waves. It was a really weird...
I was 12 when I fell in love with cycling, riding a full sus bike of similar quality. It was squeaky and flexy. The effort required to keep moving forwards was pretty darn high. Still, it was better than walking
the long name is because they just translated the Chinese name. Sellers on Taobao just put as many keywords as possible into the "name" of the product Edit: I found this exact bike on Taobao for 638 rmb which is about 72 pounds
I bought a Marin bobcat trail about 3years ago and covered hundreds of miles for a similar price. Other than a replacement bottom bracket it’s still going strong.
I had an old Marin Bolinas Ridge for about 10 yrs - it was great. Just needed a brakes upgrade and regular servicing. Current MTB is a Whyte 805 - bought new in 2012. Again, still going strong - the SRAM groupset is perfect for me (works in the same way as my Campagnolo Veloce on my road bike).
I just ordered a Brand new marin bobcat trail 4 for 400 Eur in a Sale. I cannot wait. I thing those "cheap" amazon Bikes are very overprized for what they offer.
Amazon has become your local chinese market basically. i bought a hardtail for £80, shimano gears, disc brakes, did some cleaning and it runs like butter.
About ten years ago, just for something for my wife to ride for a weekend we ordered a full-suspension 'mountain bike' from Amazon, brand new for the low, low price of just £60 (sixty!) It was, to put it mildly, a death-trap. When you pulled the plastic brake levers, they'd pull to their limit and then bend the rest of the way until they touched the bar. It weighed a TON, like it was made out of scaffolding poles. The detents in the derailleur didn't in any way line up with the sprockets on the cassette, so no matter how you adjusted it, it would click and clatter. My favourite thing however was the suspension - it had no damping whatsoever, so if you went off a kerb you'd immediately bounce back up to almost the same height and do the same once you came back down, three or four times.
Thanks for the super review GMBN! Thanks to you guys, I'm gonna get my dad this bike for Christmas. He's gonna be so stoked when he hits the trails on this!
I have a small bike assembly business that is centered around this type of customer. I take “boxed bikes” and assemble them to work their best, despite the price point. I let the customer know what I found wrong or cheap parts they should swap out first. Most people don’t have the right tools or the knowledge to fix all the issues. Take care!!
Yeah my cousin bought a bike from Amazon, you couldn’t even find the front wheel on as the fork was all crooked plus other issues. I got my uncle to sent it back and took my cousin to Halfords
Halfords still exists? I remember going there as a kid in England to buy bike lights every few months coz they broke so often. They sold 'Grifters' too. How fitting.
For £500 you can find a lot of bike on the 2nd hand market. A few years ago I bought a specialized rockhopper 29er for £130 and upgraded it. Many more bargains to be had 2nd hand.
The first mountain bike I really liked was $517 on Amazon. Used it for about 7 years, that last 3 1/2 as an e-bike conversion. Loved that QR hardtail. It was not that bad with an air fork upgrade.
I sure wish we still had normal bike shops... but almost all of those small shops died and I am left with those giant mega stores with attached cafe and 6 months waiting list for any repair.. and the few smaller bike shops that are left are either overwhelmed with bleeding a brake or have a 12 month waiting list..
Wow... What a bargain... Although for ₤80 more... (The Orange one was ₤500 right....) I got my Giant Faith 0 2010... (EDIT: now ₤566 & when checking "all options" ₤588 with free delivery??) delivered.... and repaired... (including adding a cheap dropper.... and a new RC3 Debonair rear shock (unpackaged but unused from the USA) and a new Spank 12mm boost freehub .... and it had XT components... and 200mm disks... and 7" bullet proof suspension (40mm Totem forks) ... and 4 years later, still going strong (replacing the odd wear n tear like the bb and tyres... so yeah... ₤80 less and all my videos could have been on that... Maybe the 2nd hand market WAS the right idea... 🙂
This sh*t should be illegal. Not only is is clearly false advertising, the bike is dangerous and a huge waste of precious resources at a time when all businesses, especially related to things like bikes which are inherently sustainable, should be thinking hard about their manufacturing. This is landfill after a couple of months maximum, and yet decent bikes from the 80s and 90s are still going strong. Thanks GMBN for highlighting this.
reminds me of a bike I saw that said Sd-Works.....almost but not quite lol Sam Pilgrim showed you can ride almost anything even backflip cheap bikes their problem is they usually last 1 ride or less before breaking, one of his tip is to watch the fork and rear linkage if it looks thin stay aways
That bike would shake to pieces in fear once same gazed at it with his signature smile. I would actually be worried for his well being testing out that steaming turd of should not be. Ghost ride off train gap would be fun.
Reminds me of Sam Pilgrim's review of a £250 Amazon bike. It lasted two hours before the front fork snapped and he face planted. Dude's a maniac, though...
@richardwatson2348 - I use it all the time, only immediate change I want to make is a dropper post and I really want my 3x gear setup back. You can go So much faster at the top end compared the 1x system the Vitus and most other bikes come with.
……as he was bouncing along the road like Mr Soft……never understand why people buy full suspension bikes to ride on the road! I even lock my front suspension most of the time, unless I’m on some rocky stuff!
I remember a toob of a Walmart thing with Vee brakes being put through a park downhill and the brakes failed 2/3rd down and he flat landed far side of a table... still the bike actually survived bar a few loose things (like the steering head) and cooked brakes...
27kg - that's about 60lbs - I think the weight weenies just got crushed. 🤣 Well, at least it has monster truck tires (err, tyres) to match the monster truck weight.
Uhh... The rear suspension looks insanely dangerous - isn't it going to slam into the seat tube before the shock bottoms out (like others I seen with that type of setup)? 😵
@nukedathlonman I believe that's exactly what happened to Blake on one of these videos. The cheap plastic bushings failed and the pivot repeatedly slammed into the seat tube.
That made me laugh. Hard to believe there's a market for these but then again a lot of people think "a bikes a bike" and can't believe there's a market for high end mtbs!
It looks kinda ok from a good distance. I found similar listings on eBay and Amazon when you zoom in on the pictures it's pretty bad. Glad the camera did show that magnificent manufacturing and built quality 😂
I saw one listed ... giving frame size etc... and in the fine print... it was a light for the handlebars... And another full suspension bike.. for $100... that (reading carefully) was 6" long... (yup.. a model... but carefully not making that clear).
Id rather buy a good make 2nd hand than buy one of these. Im now on my 3rd ebike (first and second bikes were Chinese folding ebikes) after pearning this lesson the hard way. I now own a kalkhoff and im amazed at the quality difference. The kalkhoff was actually cheaper as well
500 quid gave me a Vitus Mach 3 2017 with Shimano Metrea U5000. Another a GT Arrowhead (2000). Hardly used. Also, ask your city where and when they auction off leftover bikes that nobody cared to report missing.
Someone who knows a little little bit about bikes , knows that this bike is junk. Someone who doesnt kniw anything, why take the risk? Just go Decathlon, buy their basic bike , it will still be basic, but 1000x better than that.
Carbon steel is the cheapest steel used for bike frames - if a manufacturer don't say Cromoly on a steel frame you can assume it's carbon steel. The Eurobike from GCN is also made of it, these bikes are always heavy as hell
Does it say in the fine print that is not for offroad? I've looked at some of the manuals at dept stores out of shits snd giggles and see so many that say don't really it offroad lol.
I always want to do more when it comes to biking, I have 7 bikes, 2 full suspension mtbs (1 36LBS trail, 1 32LBS all mountain, I could sell 1 of these), 1 32LBS hardtail mtb, 1 21LBS fully rigid carbon mtb, 1 gravel bike, 1 road bike and a recumbent. For a full suspension mtb it seems about $1000 needs to be spent to get something decent, hardtail can be had for about $400. I've purchased from bikesdirect and bikesonline and have been real happy with my not bottom end purchases, if one buys bottom end you can't expect much. craigslist is a good place to find a nice bike, look for one that has spent most of its life indoor storage. Good luck fellow bikers, have fun, get a grin on your face and ride.
My brother in law bought a schwinn knowles duel suspension mountain bike. It's 22 kilos the non drive crank arm fell off on first ride (crankshaft protrudes from crank arm because it's too long) so can't tighten it unless it's filed down. The shocks only travel a few cms because apparently it's made for big foot or something. The list is endless. Schwinn no longer makes bikes some company bought the name. I could have fixed it but tossed it in the dumpster. I wouldn't feel right even trying to sell it.
Well the only advantage is you don't need to lock it up ever, imagine the rust on it after 6 months of ownership if it lasted that long, probably double the weight.
I bought a POS like that in 1999. Luckily, I had parts left from a legitimate bike company hardtail that the frame had broken twice on. Yeah, the parts are not suited for use. After replacing all of the parts on the bike less the vee brakes and levers and rear boinger, I was able to ride that bike for about ten years until a car driver tried taking me out again. Wheels were butter and were replaced buy some from a bike shop. Good news is, that bucket of bolts taught me how to work on bikes and still do to this day.
I work in a bike shop part time and you’d be surprised of how many people buy E-Bikes of similar quality and get mad at us when we say we can’t really fix them.
Why not?
It's a shame they get mad at you. When in reality they should be made at the manufacturer
It's more 'economically not viable' than anything else. These types of bikes use old tech, which contemporary bike shops don't usually carry stock of - and even if they order the parts in, the labour cost would exceed the value of the bike. These sort of bikes are eminently fixable, but only if you source your own spares and do all the work. Bike shops aren't interested in them.
@@deadreckoner5276because they're crap. I've seen videos where such bikes we're ridden hard and in one case the fork suspension got so hot it melted. Couldn't really repair that fork, only buy a complete new one.
In another case something in the hub broke after a few rides. Only way would have been to buy a new hub.
Thus, part by part you upgrade the bike until you get a normal one because none of the components are from the original anymore. At this point, why not just buy a normal bike directly instead? 😂
Yep. If we get something in with a group set we've never heard of we don't touch it. Why? The parts can be cheap/poorly made and hard or too time-consuming to adjust.
Gotta say i'm impressed with the 4 way rear suspension technology that goes up and down and side to side! LOL
Lateral compliance is the next best thing 🎉
It make comfort to every side!!
Dave Weigle's already patented it.
Yep, that looked crazy as s***
Its completely revolutionary new generation directional control, give you ultimate confidence and performance on the trail. 😉
Selling bikes like these should be illegal. It's only a matter of time before someone gets seriously hurt
There's a caveat you see. The people that buy these turds don't ride them hard or long enough to get into trouble
You should apply for a job with Health and Safety!
@@janeblogs324 you can't say that for everyone
yooo DCS player wsgwsg
They usually are meant general use not trails
I don't think Neil tested that thing properly. Stair set of doom, back flip, 8 ft drop to flat, drift until the rims fold in half. May as well get your 500 lbs worth of fun out of it.
Even Sam Pilgrim would be terrified of this clunker
@@bibasik7 I'm happy to see someone else got his reference
That would be dreamy.
I think we'll leave the crazy stuff to Sam Pilgrim! 🤘
Lbs 😂 American in the chat
Should have got sam pilgrim involved
Sam P. has done a video with almost an identical bike from Amazon. He fearlessly puts it through the wringer…. i.e. he destroys it.
Sam would have flipped that hunk of junk lmao. Also with his ghetto mechanic skills he'd be perfect to fix it.
Send it
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Brave man Neil, that thing looks like an absolute death trap.
No way.... Surely a death trap would be made more sturdy?
to be honest, the riding section is quite short because the fork got so much more flexy that i felt it was only going to come apart if i kept riding it
@@neildonoghueMTB Brave man for getting on that thing. It’s shocking that junk like that is on sale.
I wonder how this fella from the reviews got on ... Reviewed in the United Kingdom on 13 October 2023
Colour Name: Red
So this bike has been pushing my limits to the max. Slowly building up riding more and more insane trials. Going to fort William soon to try the world champs track will report back soon
RIP
No chance it’s a fake review of course!
It's probably Sam Pilgrim, video coming soon 😂
24 October 2023
@@gmbnnever seen that done before in the comments
Thanks for all the awesome promotional pictures GMBN. I’ll add them to my Amazon listing.
Freakin hilarious😂😂. Love it!
As seen on GMBN...
I recently got a warning from Amazon for a semi colorful review (no swearing). I said I'd be coming after them for selling me a scam of a product. I guess that was too threatening. But it shows a lot of nerve that Amazon allows the vast majority of their products to be like this. I generally do not buy anything safety related on Amazon anymore unless it's a major brand that is sold elsewhere. This includes things like bikes, electrical, electronic, etc. That fork is poised to kill someone if they really push it.
Those riding shots should be in the Amazon listing next week. 😁
For sure, they would add something like
"As tested and ridden by Pro Rider Neil O Donnoghue from popular mountain biking TH-cam channel GMBN"
He did style it round the corners! 🤘
This is Sam Pilgrims job
Shimong brakes🤣
Maybe they also make shimongdas.
Reminds me of my first mountain bike I bought when I first got into the sport and I knew nothing about bikes. I just went to the local department store bought one that was cheap and looked cool. Thankfully, I never encountered any catastrophic failures and even though it was a piece of junk I still had fun on it.
Department store bikes may not be the best, but they're better than this. Department stores don't want the liability of selling dangerous bikes.
Amazon sellers, on the other hand, are never held accountable for anything.
For most of my childhood me and my buddies rode cheap Walmart mongoose mtbs lol. When that's all you know they're great. I didn't think it was even possible for gears to actually work perfectly. Then you get a "real" bike from a legit brand and it's like holy shit this is amazing!
Had a Huffy and a Maurray as a kid (diff ages and times - smaller kids bikes). Then graduated to a K-Mart Murray MTB I think it was $150 at the time ... rode that for about 1 year on this modified dirt bike technical trail in the woods until i launched off a jump and planted the front wheel into a tree. Early 90s - also didn't know anything about MTBs except they looked sturdier to ride off-road, Wouldn't learn about scale of quality (or pricing) until after the tree jumped out at me. I replaced that witha Mongoose Hilltopper (full rigid) for $600 and never looked back at cheaper bikes again. The K-Mart Murray > the front wheel was fine - the front fork was fine - the Head Tube was just long enough from the top bar to the down tube to pinch like Pac-Man's mouth and force the tire backwards towards the down tube. Technically the bike was still "ridable" but you had to sort of tack back and forth and couldn't ride ina straight line. Fond memories of that first MTB because it's what made me aware of trail riding and yes - lots of fun.
@@dylan-5287 And brakes too - don't forget the brakes (as in wow - this bike can stop without me skidding out of control or planting my feet like Fred Fintstone - I'm sure my mom kept track of how many shoes I burned though at the time).
Can't wait to put some "Shihongs" on my pure Dh-bike 😂
Better than trp for sure 😅
Smoothest shifting around! 😂
And MAQISHI tyres :)
@@stanley3647 and maybe you could put the MAQISHI tyres on a fat bike 🤣😆
Once I had to work on one just like this. It had a 8 speed threaded freewheel and the forks were probably even sketchier than this has for the looks of it. It was sold as a YOUMA. I really felt bad for the owner, as he probably had spent something like 600€ on it. The rails of the saddle just popped out while putting it on the repair stand. The forks bottomed out immediately and felt flexy as hell. Also it was put together wrong as there was one spacer under the upper crown making the headset all wonky. It was so bad that I felt I had to make a post on a big mountain biking FB group to warn people who maybe didn't know better.
So now I'll watch the video.
I'm sure I have a Kettle made by the same people...
This is the description in the instructions...
Made of high quality stainless steel material seiko produced but become, have the corrosion resistance, health and durable, high brightness,bolling automatic sound sound told, bright beautiful colour, multiple color, a variety of choice. Modelling elegant, thick and tough, durability, safety Fang very hot, the exclusive kitchen design, best manufacture, high thermal storage, higher energy efficiency, energy saving and healthy.
I chose it because it came with a Safety Fang!
Then there was my Toyota MR2 ... and the floor mats say... "A man in dandism. New rich & sports.”... I kid you not!
Oh well, at least it looked cool with the Don shredding on it. Good honest review Neil.
they just put all the features that usually "look cool" on a bike from a non mountain biker's point of view. double crown fork, full sus, especially a coil shock, disc brakes and fat tires
Maybe it wasn't meant to be ridden - maybe it was meant to be a lawn peice for someone's frontyard. Next to the pink flamingos and year round christmas decorations.
@@uberfu that's kind of the only thing you could actually use it for anyways
exactly. Garbage scam bike from china. Everything in its build and name is there to fool people who want to get into mtb but don't really know anything. Instead of building a usable and modest bike for 500, they built a useless one that will catch the eye of a newbie.
Coil shock😂
Wonder how many of these end up with diy electric kits on them doing 50mph on delivery reviews
Ive been trying to figure out what im doing wrong when cornering but that clip at 4:01 onwards is the solution to my problem. Big thanks!!! Im excited to go back to Totora park this weekend🥳💪🏼
This was a better review than the one for the Eurobike done by the sister channel for roadies. Mor eobjective data and protrayed more seriously, without snobbery. I appreciate this.
I have seen people riding those bike on my commute to work. They look cheap and from what I could tell everyone of those bikes were making a huge amount of noise after about 2 weeks of riding and disappeared after 4 weeks.
Probably not the easiest bikes to commute on either, I wouldn't want to pedal one!
This is the bike you buy and stick on the side of your house so the theives don't take your real bike 😂
They'll still break in, if only to leave $20 on the counter.
Taiwan is known for producing some of the world's best bikes for some of the world's biggest bike companies. Then you get this junk just across the Strait on the mainland. Typical Amazon junk.
China makes both good products and cheap crap. The reality is cheap crap sells more and makes more $$$ because the world is full of idiots.
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I love the guitar riff when going "fast" downhill. Makes me remember when I was just a young lad watching Rocky III during the scene when Apollo and Rocky start hugging each other in the waves. It was a really weird...
My thoughts were "with better parts It could be a reasonable bike" and then you hit me with these scary welds at 7:27 🤣
I was 12 when I fell in love with cycling, riding a full sus bike of similar quality. It was squeaky and flexy. The effort required to keep moving forwards was pretty darn high. Still, it was better than walking
A full suspension fat tire bike with DH forks is not something you see everyday
And probably a lot less of by the end of that day...
the long name is because they just translated the Chinese name. Sellers on Taobao just put as many keywords as possible into the "name" of the product
Edit: I found this exact bike on Taobao for 638 rmb which is about 72 pounds
no, the long name is so that it shows up in more searches.
@@mcl40000 yes, that's what i said
@@GNerdful oh, must have missed the second line...
This is what I do when selling on ebay, gotta hit all the key search words.
Guys, don't take it personal, but you have to destroy it xD
I bought a Marin bobcat trail about 3years ago and covered hundreds of miles for a similar price.
Other than a replacement bottom bracket it’s still going strong.
I had an old Marin Bolinas Ridge for about 10 yrs - it was great. Just needed a brakes upgrade and regular servicing. Current MTB is a Whyte 805 - bought new in 2012. Again, still going strong - the SRAM groupset is perfect for me (works in the same way as my Campagnolo Veloce on my road bike).
I just ordered a Brand new marin bobcat trail 4 for 400 Eur in a Sale. I cannot wait. I thing those "cheap" amazon Bikes are very overprized for what they offer.
We had the orange one come into our bike shop that thing was terrifying
did it manage to make it's way back out...
Amazon has become your local chinese market basically. i bought a hardtail for £80, shimano gears, disc brakes, did some cleaning and it runs like butter.
Well maybe like "I can't believe it's not butter".
About ten years ago, just for something for my wife to ride for a weekend we ordered a full-suspension 'mountain bike' from Amazon, brand new for the low, low price of just £60 (sixty!)
It was, to put it mildly, a death-trap. When you pulled the plastic brake levers, they'd pull to their limit and then bend the rest of the way until they touched the bar. It weighed a TON, like it was made out of scaffolding poles. The detents in the derailleur didn't in any way line up with the sprockets on the cassette, so no matter how you adjusted it, it would click and clatter.
My favourite thing however was the suspension - it had no damping whatsoever, so if you went off a kerb you'd immediately bounce back up to almost the same height and do the same once you came back down, three or four times.
So you basically tried to kill your wife with a pos bike. I hope your now divorced
Thanks for the super review GMBN! Thanks to you guys, I'm gonna get my dad this bike for Christmas. He's gonna be so stoked when he hits the trails on this!
I'm surprised you didn't give this to Mr Pilgrim to test
I have a small bike assembly business that is centered around this type of customer. I take “boxed bikes” and assemble them to work their best, despite the price point. I let the customer know what I found wrong or cheap parts they should swap out first. Most people don’t have the right tools or the knowledge to fix all the issues. Take care!!
This is without a doubt one of the videos of all time
Yeah my cousin bought a bike from Amazon, you couldn’t even find the front wheel on as the fork was all crooked plus other issues. I got my uncle to sent it back and took my cousin to Halfords
Halfrauds 🤡
It is a step up, I guess. 🙄
As mentioned in the video, you can get a decent hardtail for the same money, and it won't try to kill you.
Halfords still exists? I remember going there as a kid in England to buy bike lights every few months coz they broke so often. They sold 'Grifters' too. How fitting.
Dont hurt yourself on that thing Neil... I like you...
Why do people go to see the race... to see the crashes!
For £500 you can find a lot of bike on the 2nd hand market. A few years ago I bought a specialized rockhopper 29er for £130 and upgraded it. Many more bargains to be had 2nd hand.
I was about to say a similar thing - there are some superb 2nd hand bikes available for around £500 - a Specialized RockHopper is always a solid bet!
The first mountain bike I really liked was $517 on Amazon. Used it for about 7 years, that last 3 1/2 as an e-bike conversion. Loved that QR hardtail. It was not that bad with an air fork upgrade.
Neil is still faster on this crap than me on my Trek Slash :-D
I sure wish we still had normal bike shops... but almost all of those small shops died and I am left with those giant mega stores with attached cafe and 6 months waiting list for any repair.. and the few smaller bike shops that are left are either overwhelmed with bleeding a brake or have a 12 month waiting list..
Wow... What a bargain... Although for ₤80 more... (The Orange one was ₤500 right....) I got my Giant Faith 0 2010... (EDIT: now ₤566 & when checking "all options" ₤588 with free delivery??)
delivered....
and repaired...
(including adding a cheap dropper.... and a new RC3 Debonair rear shock (unpackaged but unused from the USA) and a new Spank 12mm boost freehub ....
and it had XT components... and 200mm disks... and 7" bullet proof suspension (40mm Totem forks) ...
and 4 years later, still going strong (replacing the odd wear n tear like the bb and tyres...
so yeah... ₤80 less and all my videos could have been on that... Maybe the 2nd hand market WAS the right idea... 🙂
This sh*t should be illegal. Not only is is clearly false advertising, the bike is dangerous and a huge waste of precious resources at a time when all businesses, especially related to things like bikes which are inherently sustainable, should be thinking hard about their manufacturing. This is landfill after a couple of months maximum, and yet decent bikes from the 80s and 90s are still going strong. Thanks GMBN for highlighting this.
Bike shops know what they are doing?
Mmm,NOT every one every time
reminds me of a bike I saw that said Sd-Works.....almost but not quite lol
Sam Pilgrim showed you can ride almost anything even backflip cheap bikes their problem is they usually last 1 ride or less before breaking, one of his tip is to watch the fork and rear linkage if it looks thin stay aways
"Let's take it apart and see the build quality". I was like see the what now?
It's amazing what they can stick together with 'No More Nails'.
I'd be ruined if I paid 550 quid on that. You could actually get something far better from halfords, and thats saying something
Hopefully someone looking to buy one happens across our video and changes their mind!
My old bike shop used to call these ’bike shaped objects’ made from old gas pipes (lead) and bongo bits.
would love to see another video about this bike going full upgrade. that will be interesting.
Please please give this bike to Pilgrim. He would love it.
That bike would shake to pieces in fear once same gazed at it with his signature smile. I would actually be worried for his well being testing out that steaming turd of should not be. Ghost ride off train gap would be fun.
Reminds me of Sam Pilgrim's review of a £250 Amazon bike. It lasted two hours before the front fork snapped and he face planted. Dude's a maniac, though...
Vitus neucleus hardtail. 550. The difference is huge.
Dude, I ride one. Fantastic bike for the money.
@MrMuz99 yeah same! I used it as a trail bike for a year before I bought a sommet and now converted it to a XC bike. There class.
@richardwatson2348 - I use it all the time, only immediate change I want to make is a dropper post and I really want my 3x gear setup back. You can go So much faster at the top end compared the 1x system the Vitus and most other bikes come with.
That rear triangle looks like it'll seriously dent your seat tube at about 1/4 of full travel 🤣
I remember a guy at work telling me how great his full suspension bike from Costco is!😂
Well they sell Intense 951 bikes at Costco now
……as he was bouncing along the road like Mr Soft……never understand why people buy full suspension bikes to ride on the road! I even lock my front suspension most of the time, unless I’m on some rocky stuff!
I love these videos, who else loves seeing cheap bike abuse 😂
I remember a toob of a Walmart thing with Vee brakes being put through a park downhill and the brakes failed 2/3rd down and he flat landed far side of a table... still the bike actually survived bar a few loose things (like the steering head) and cooked brakes...
Props to editors that edit at the start was bussin
87k views in 3 days for the oldest, most over used video title in mountain biking TH-cam history. Fair play.
27kg - that's about 60lbs - I think the weight weenies just got crushed. 🤣 Well, at least it has monster truck tires (err, tyres) to match the monster truck weight.
Uhh... The rear suspension looks insanely dangerous - isn't it going to slam into the seat tube before the shock bottoms out (like others I seen with that type of setup)? 😵
@nukedathlonman I believe that's exactly what happened to Blake on one of these videos. The cheap plastic bushings failed and the pivot repeatedly slammed into the seat tube.
I thought I was the only one still calling them Tyres...
£500 you could buy an old apollo bike for £30 and it would be better made and safer.
Why would anybody even manufacture this? I mean, why?
27kg over the trails... Yikes!😮
The problem is, if you are used to riding £10k bikes, everything seems poor standard.
More reviews like this, please!
That made me laugh. Hard to believe there's a market for these but then again a lot of people think "a bikes a bike" and can't believe there's a market for high end mtbs!
where is this filmed? Looks like some nice trails
I got into MTB at the start of the year and bought a used boardman pro with a dropper for less than this. Wtf haha
It looks kinda ok from a good distance.
I found similar listings on eBay and Amazon when you zoom in on the pictures it's pretty bad.
Glad the camera did show that magnificent manufacturing and built quality 😂
I saw one listed ... giving frame size etc... and in the fine print... it was a light for the handlebars...
And another full suspension bike.. for $100... that (reading carefully) was 6" long... (yup.. a model... but carefully not making that clear).
Id rather buy a good make 2nd hand than buy one of these. Im now on my 3rd ebike (first and second bikes were Chinese folding ebikes) after pearning this lesson the hard way. I now own a kalkhoff and im amazed at the quality difference. The kalkhoff was actually cheaper as well
Think I have found my next bike...
Sand down the profile on the tyres and pump them up to 10bar (145psi). Low rolling resistance. 👍🏽
500 quid gave me a Vitus Mach 3 2017 with Shimano Metrea U5000. Another a GT Arrowhead (2000). Hardly used. Also, ask your city where and when they auction off leftover bikes that nobody cared to report missing.
I think Amazon should be called out for that horrible description of that monstrosity of a... thing.
Someone who knows a little little bit about bikes , knows that this bike is junk.
Someone who doesnt kniw anything, why take the risk?
Just go Decathlon, buy their basic bike , it will still be basic, but 1000x better than that.
Yes, my first thought was: what is High-Carbon-Steel Lol is this that happens when steel frame goes to coffee shop ?)
Normally very brittle 😂
High carbon steel is one step better than wrought iron. The high makes it sound good - it’s not.
The manufacturer couldn't even be arsed to use Hi-Ten Steel
Hi carbon, Great... Like a set of Ginsu knives. When it shatters it will cut you to ribbons.
Carbon steel is the cheapest steel used for bike frames - if a manufacturer don't say Cromoly on a steel frame you can assume it's carbon steel.
The Eurobike from GCN is also made of it, these bikes are always heavy as hell
A few years ago I got a specialized stump jumper team bike on marketplace for $50 bucks.😊
I got a Specilized Rock Hopper Elite, 29" for £220 second hand, bargains are out there!
@3:18 What was broken?
Man those bar in the dual crown fork sure look ridiculous 😂
Does it say in the fine print that is not for offroad? I've looked at some of the manuals at dept stores out of shits snd giggles and see so many that say don't really it offroad lol.
That’s what we call in the trade a BSO bicycle shaped object. Review very accurate and it is a complete waste of money!
Pride of China industry.
Must say the frame looks quite nice, bit like the old Iron Horse SixPoint or Sunday.
I always want to do more when it comes to biking, I have 7 bikes, 2 full suspension mtbs (1 36LBS trail, 1 32LBS all mountain, I could sell 1 of these), 1 32LBS hardtail mtb, 1 21LBS fully rigid carbon mtb, 1 gravel bike, 1 road bike and a recumbent. For a full suspension mtb it seems about $1000 needs to be spent to get something decent, hardtail can be had for about $400. I've purchased from bikesdirect and bikesonline and have been real happy with my not bottom end purchases, if one buys bottom end you can't expect much. craigslist is a good place to find a nice bike, look for one that has spent most of its life indoor storage. Good luck fellow bikers, have fun, get a grin on your face and ride.
'Wind Greeting?' Yeah, that's about what it deserves.
You should compare you on a high-spec bike and a racer on a bike like this. I would like to see how much a good bike can help you.
The producer got it wrong…you should ride the BEST reviewed bike on Amazon, which can’t be much better than this 🤣.
The rear bridge on those forks look like they will catch on the frame with a heavy landing. Pure death trap
And here I was thinking my free bike that came with my sofa purchase was awesome 😅
I saw someone using one of these just to commute to work and the rear end is twisted and the brake rubs badly
I wanna see this type of bike kitted out (practically replace every part exempt the frame and rear shock)
My brother in law bought a schwinn knowles duel suspension mountain bike. It's 22 kilos the non drive crank arm fell off on first ride (crankshaft protrudes from crank arm because it's too long) so can't tighten it unless it's filed down. The shocks only travel a few cms because apparently it's made for big foot or something. The list is endless. Schwinn no longer makes bikes some company bought the name. I could have fixed it but tossed it in the dumpster. I wouldn't feel right even trying to sell it.
Somewhere in the world, this video is being dubbed into an advert
I assume that by now (3 days after posting) all the slo-mo action shots will have been inserted into the manufacturer's publicity material.
Well the only advantage is you don't need to lock it up ever, imagine the rust on it after 6 months of ownership if it lasted that long, probably double the weight.
I bought a POS like that in 1999. Luckily, I had parts left from a legitimate bike company hardtail that the frame had broken twice on. Yeah, the parts are not suited for use. After replacing all of the parts on the bike less the vee brakes and levers and rear boinger, I was able to ride that bike for about ten years until a car driver tried taking me out again. Wheels were butter and were replaced buy some from a bike shop. Good news is, that bucket of bolts taught me how to work on bikes and still do to this day.
Give this to Blake for a segment "Blake Breaks"...on second thought, we need Blake around for a long time. Maybe not safe to try and break.