I love how you have to Google English English to interpret it! As Churchill said about England and the USA, "Two countries separated by a common language."
Yes ... lol. Looking stuff up and immediately being as wrong as before. But hey, I'll cut a little slack. He's doing this on the quick. Not easy to absorb so much, along with cultural differences of the Map Men.
Flander's is the northern part of Belgium the country not Brussels the city, where Flemish (A dialect of Dutch) is primarily spoken. And the southern half of the country is called Wallonia where French is the primary language. I would recommend you to watch Geography Now's episode on Belgium for further clarifications. It's a country with a very weirdly complicated and interesting history and origins.
If you Google "the true size of" you'll get a website which allows you you get a country to be dragged & rotated to see how it'll morph near equator vs poles.
THIS is so endearing (!). I'm an English teacher (to mostly Spanish speakers) and the "how do you say 'despedida de soltero'?" moment is one of my favourites because I get to teach bachelor/bachelorette (US) stag/hen party (UK) and the suffix -do! What a great teaching point. Seeing JJ also go through this realisation was great. Noticing the inherent sexism of stag vs hen as animals of choice is also a funny discussion point.
At Google Maps on your PC (so not mobile) in the menu where you can toggle layers (default, sattelite, traffic, etc.) there should be a More button. Clicking on that will reveal a "Globe view"checkbox. Clicking on that changes the Mercator perspective from Google Maps to a globe. Now you can really see the true differences between country sizes.
There's a website called "true size of" which allows to type any country and move it around to show it's true size and accurately visually compare countries.
Hmmm well at almost 48 years old, I feel like I've pondered most things in life.... and yet this I had never thought about before! I assumed the atlus style map was totally to scale all over! So very interesting! I'm educated muchly by this video! Thank you Map Men (Men) + Extra Man (JJ) for giving me a lot to think about on my next hour long walk to work (and back!) :D
I'm a bit sad they didn't mention my personal favorite projection, the Robinson projection (edit : That might be the one you were looking for at the end). I think it's a good compromise between size and shape, though I will admit things still get quite squished near the poles. But most people don't live near the poles, so I don't think it matters THAT much. Plus, distortion is inevitable unless you cut bits in the middle, which I think just looks dreadful. At the end of the day, if you want the most accurate map possible, just use a globe. Especially now that we have technological tools, we can just get access to digital globes really easily; just go on Google Maps, for instance.
Maps show 3 types of information, Distances, Angles, and Areas, only a globe can show all 3 correctly. The best a flat projection can manage is 2 of these, which 2 you can keep depends on the type of projection you use, so choose which 2 are the most important to you, and pick your projection accordingly!
The Sydney Opera House design was inspired by a sliced orange and its "sails" if you put them together would make a sphere. So using that principle, I am with you on the 'crescenty' map JJ.
And then we have actual people who are beliving in the flat earth like Bob Nodel who spent 15 000usd to be shown he was wrong and yet still believe in the flat earth sadly he is dead now. Then we have people like Erik dubay who just screams at people telling them they are wrong never showing any evidence of it yet he is one of the biggest reasons become flat earthers. While it has died down a lot now we are only around 2 years away from when Flat earth was quite a lot of people.
One TH-camr who is a pilot (74 gear I think) offered to make a charter flight for flat earthers around the globe to show them that the world isn’t flat. But no one ever reached out to him lol
Yes, Google Earth / Google Maps simply projects the planet onto a sphere in 3D. Problem solved. Zoom out all the way and you can spin it around and around. Weeee!!
I don't think they explained the Mercator projection very well. Because the Earth is a sphere(ish) there are infinite "straight" lines between any 2 points on it's surface. It's most obvious if you consider the N & S poles, but still applies anywhere else: visualise cutting that orange skin in to segments then trimming one down by cutting parallel strips off the sides. The important bit is that North remains straight up for all points, so you can measure the same bearings off the flat map as you can from a round globe. Strictly speaking that's Transverse Mercator Projection (with North at the top) - you could turn your sphere around inside your tube so any point becomes the top.
Not the North part of Brussels! Brussels is a French-speaking city within Flanders. Flemish is a variety of Dutch and the non-Flemish Belgians speak Walloon, which is a dialect of French. Except for those who speak Luxembourgeois...well, you get the picture..🙂
I would actually like to buy something like that "more accurate but weird" projection in good quality print. Our perception of our world is through our exposure to maps through media so it might be interesting to see another variant in daily life. Maybe I'll put it in my bathroom.
Wait wait wait wait WAIT, in the video they took Greenland and centred it over the equator to show it’s size in comparison to Africa, can’t we just take every country, find it’s size at the equator and then put it back in its place retaining its size and shape at the same time? Who said the map can’t be built piece by piece?
Flat Earthers have realy bad eye sight, if they didn't they could see the mountins, get the glasses on see hills etc ,the earth is sudenly not flat. Thanks Pub Landlord.
The flat Earth thing started as a satirical jab at science, I think. Science is becoming increasingly complicated, to the point simple tools, the brain, and the naked eye are not enough to understand or prove certain theories and tests. You need to do a lot of math, which required a lot of studying, and you need many complicated, expensive tools (whose functionality itself requires science and math to understand and use) to do a lot of science now. Most flat earthers don't actually believe in a flat Earth, and continue to use it as satire, and will "play along" if you try to challenge them, but there are plenty of people who take it at face value and truly believe it.
My un favourite maps of the world are the ones that show the Americas centrally and split the European/Asian continent either side of the map. All world maps should show the Americas to either the left or right of the page.
They can, and have. Hence the Gall-Peters projection map. When choosing a map you just need to select one that is closest to your needs, or buy a globe.
99% of flat earthers DON'T believe the earth is flat. They are just trolling. They WANT everyone to hate them and pretending to seriously believe it is one of the best ways.
Imo flat earthers don't like their lives , and they hope that if everything we have been told is wrong , it may change their reality. Or they are just bored
Bottom line. You can't project a 3d shape on a flat piece of paper. As a sailor, the Mercator projection allows me to navigate the world, with a compass, sextant and accurate clock. And the world is flat and only six thousand years old.
Flat earthers are true empiricists. They don't rely on anyone's word, only their own experience. The earth they experience is flat therefore they have no reason to believe it's anything but flat. You have to respect that on some level.
Flat earth map is so stupid. If you went by it, it would mean that australia is way further away from chile than china. Also i think its hilarious how the flat earth people just took the UN map and claimed it to be their map xD
A lot are not and a lot are christians because the bible tells them the earth is flat. and that is even ignoring the young earth people who are a mix of believing in a flat and a round earth.
Sorry but if at the end of the video you yrt wonder if is possible (even with the aid of computer) to render a sferic surface into a flat foil you don't get the point. Is geometry 101, you cant. Every try is jyst focused to show what's relevant for those map losing some dettail in the process. Try to envelop an apple with a paper whitout crumple, is easy to understand why you cant.
I love how you have to Google English English to interpret it! As Churchill said about England and the USA, "Two countries separated by a common language."
How right he was too.
"Speak English to me, Tony. I thought this country spawned the f**** language, and so far nobody seems to speak it."
-Avi (from snatch)
Another great vid my friend. Your episodes are just a great laugh and informative. Thanks you for great ways to waste my time at work fella.....
It's within Belgium, not Brussels.
Yes ... lol. Looking stuff up and immediately being as wrong as before.
But hey, I'll cut a little slack. He's doing this on the quick. Not easy to absorb so much, along with cultural differences of the Map Men.
Brussels is next to turkey at Christmas
@@seanmcmichael2551 Also, at least he's trying and admitting he doesn't know rather than pretending he does. That's a huge cred in my book.
I really enjoy your content JJ, keep up the great work!
Flander's is the northern part of Belgium the country not Brussels the city, where Flemish (A dialect of Dutch) is primarily spoken.
And the southern half of the country is called Wallonia where French is the primary language.
I would recommend you to watch Geography Now's episode on Belgium for further clarifications. It's a country with a very weirdly complicated and interesting history and origins.
Also common in Wallonia the old traditional Walloon is still common
Or as Al Murray says, a country the UK created out of thin air.
I suspect he was kidding us. He knew, all along.
@@indrajitgupta3280 Could be a slip of the tongue and he really meant to say Belgium instead of Brussels.
Love Map Men, love u reacting, u and them are utterly FUN and fascinayoimg please keep doing it, makes me laugh so much AND learn, love it JJ XXX
If you Google "the true size of" you'll get a website which allows you you get a country to be dragged & rotated to see how it'll morph near equator vs poles.
THIS is so endearing (!). I'm an English teacher (to mostly Spanish speakers) and the "how do you say 'despedida de soltero'?" moment is one of my favourites because I get to teach bachelor/bachelorette (US) stag/hen party (UK) and the suffix -do! What a great teaching point. Seeing JJ also go through this realisation was great. Noticing the inherent sexism of stag vs hen as animals of choice is also a funny discussion point.
Wow! They had a surprise use of the theme tune to Morph at about 4:02! 80s flashback! :)
At Google Maps on your PC (so not mobile) in the menu where you can toggle layers (default, sattelite, traffic, etc.) there should be a More button. Clicking on that will reveal a "Globe view"checkbox. Clicking on that changes the Mercator perspective from Google Maps to a globe. Now you can really see the true differences between country sizes.
Professor Dave, the world still isn't flat is one of the best TH-cam videos ever.
There's a website called "true size of" which allows to type any country and move it around to show it's true size and accurately visually compare countries.
I cracked up at 4:04 with the morph credits music. Shame JJ missed it but it was very subtle.
You can't understand flat earthers if you think the movement has anything to do with the shape of the earth.
06:50 "I guess it's more accurate". No, it's just differently inaccurate, that's the point of the entire video.
The Map Top 10s countdown music was that used by Top of The Pops Chart rundown music segment.
Hmmm well at almost 48 years old, I feel like I've pondered most things in life....
and yet this I had never thought about before!
I assumed the atlus style map was totally to scale all over!
So very interesting!
I'm educated muchly by this video!
Thank you Map Men (Men) + Extra Man (JJ) for giving me a lot to think about on my next hour long walk to work (and back!) :D
I'm a bit sad they didn't mention my personal favorite projection, the Robinson projection (edit : That might be the one you were looking for at the end). I think it's a good compromise between size and shape, though I will admit things still get quite squished near the poles. But most people don't live near the poles, so I don't think it matters THAT much. Plus, distortion is inevitable unless you cut bits in the middle, which I think just looks dreadful.
At the end of the day, if you want the most accurate map possible, just use a globe. Especially now that we have technological tools, we can just get access to digital globes really easily; just go on Google Maps, for instance.
Maps show 3 types of information, Distances, Angles, and Areas, only a globe can show all 3 correctly. The best a flat projection can manage is 2 of these, which 2 you can keep depends on the type of projection you use, so choose which 2 are the most important to you, and pick your projection accordingly!
The Sydney Opera House design was inspired by a sliced orange and its "sails" if you put them together would make a sphere. So using that principle, I am with you on the 'crescenty' map JJ.
When you zoom out in Google Maps, it does switch to a 3d globe nowadays.
This video made me realize that Greenland is smaller than Algeria, which blows my mind. Thank you.
01:20 "why do flat earther's believe this?", great question! ... we still don't know the answer to this yet 😂
Hilarious, you're a lovely guy.👵🏴🌹🌹
Have a happy Thanksgiving
We need to hear more about Svalbard supremacists.
The Flat Earth Society are 100% trolling. Their Facebook page says "Chapters all around the globe"😅
And then we have actual people who are beliving in the flat earth like Bob Nodel who spent 15 000usd to be shown he was wrong and yet still believe in the flat earth sadly he is dead now.
Then we have people like Erik dubay who just screams at people telling them they are wrong never showing any evidence of it yet he is one of the biggest reasons become flat earthers.
While it has died down a lot now we are only around 2 years away from when Flat earth was quite a lot of people.
@@havtor007 15 degree per hour drift you say....👍 thanks Bob
Digital dosent solve the problem. The problem isnt the inability to draw, its that it cant be done
They missed showing the Australian Map, that is every thing upside down.
They covered that in a different video called "Why is North up?"
One TH-camr who is a pilot (74 gear I think) offered to make a charter flight for flat earthers around the globe to show them that the world isn’t flat. But no one ever reached out to him lol
Can't think why?
Yes, Google Earth / Google Maps simply projects the planet onto a sphere in 3D. Problem solved.
Zoom out all the way and you can spin it around and around. Weeee!!
So it was you that did that? I was sick all over the place.
Brussels is a city within the country of Belgium .
Flemish is a Dutch dialect.
I don't think they explained the Mercator projection very well. Because the Earth is a sphere(ish) there are infinite "straight" lines between any 2 points on it's surface. It's most obvious if you consider the N & S poles, but still applies anywhere else: visualise cutting that orange skin in to segments then trimming one down by cutting parallel strips off the sides.
The important bit is that North remains straight up for all points, so you can measure the same bearings off the flat map as you can from a round globe.
Strictly speaking that's Transverse Mercator Projection (with North at the top) - you could turn your sphere around inside your tube so any point becomes the top.
Hey. Can I just ask, did you visit Berlin back in June 2004?
Do maps need to be a symmetrical rectangle ?
Not the North part of Brussels! Brussels is a French-speaking city within Flanders. Flemish is a variety of Dutch and the non-Flemish Belgians speak Walloon, which is a dialect of French. Except for those who speak Luxembourgeois...well, you get the picture..🙂
I would actually like to buy something like that "more accurate but weird" projection in good quality print. Our perception of our world is through our exposure to maps through media so it might be interesting to see another variant in daily life. Maybe I'll put it in my bathroom.
Flanders isn't the north part of Brussels
What's a hen do? It lays eggs ...
8:27 is easily the best map.
Brazil looks weird though
Wait wait wait wait WAIT, in the video they took Greenland and centred it over the equator to show it’s size in comparison to Africa, can’t we just take every country, find it’s size at the equator and then put it back in its place retaining its size and shape at the same time? Who said the map can’t be built piece by piece?
Flat Earthers have realy bad eye sight, if they didn't they could see the mountins, get the glasses on see hills etc ,the earth is sudenly not flat. Thanks Pub Landlord.
Brussels is the city Belgium is the country 😂 2:23
is your brother mlgpuckett? you loko the same its crazy
The flat Earth thing started as a satirical jab at science, I think. Science is becoming increasingly complicated, to the point simple tools, the brain, and the naked eye are not enough to understand or prove certain theories and tests. You need to do a lot of math, which required a lot of studying, and you need many complicated, expensive tools (whose functionality itself requires science and math to understand and use) to do a lot of science now. Most flat earthers don't actually believe in a flat Earth, and continue to use it as satire, and will "play along" if you try to challenge them, but there are plenty of people who take it at face value and truly believe it.
My un favourite maps of the world are the ones that show the Americas centrally and split the European/Asian continent either side of the map. All world maps should show the Americas to either the left or right of the page.
The world isn't round.....It's ovoid
But in common vernacular, ovoid is round.
I wonder why they can't make atlas maps based on the actual relative areas of the land, considering that we don't use them for navigation.
They can, and have. Hence the Gall-Peters projection map.
When choosing a map you just need to select one that is closest to your needs, or buy a globe.
@@ffotograffydd Globes ate great, but awkward to carry around.
Nation states also change .
@@kimbirch1202 Hence why I suggested the map that best suits your needs. 😉
@ffotograffydd I need a map that is never out of date.
Can you recommend one.
@@kimbirch1202 Google maps! Obviously! 😂
English English Do=Party. Great Time, Punch Up, whatever
The Earth is not completely round, like a globe, either.
The poles protrude somewhat.
No, it flattens at the poles. Or rather it bulges at the equator due to the centrifugal force.
99% of flat earthers DON'T believe the earth is flat. They are just trolling. They WANT everyone to hate them and pretending to seriously believe it is one of the best ways.
Even the globe is wrong because earth isn’t entirely round.
Love their timing re flat earth just as you finished fact checking the flat earth society thoughts !
Imo flat earthers don't like their lives , and they hope that if everything we have been told is wrong , it may change their reality. Or they are just bored
The west wing, cheese day.
Bottom line. You can't project a 3d shape on a flat piece of paper. As a sailor, the Mercator projection allows me to navigate the world, with a compass, sextant and accurate clock. And the world is flat and only six thousand years old.
your time at sea has muddled your mind. Beware the song.
@@TheNosnets ❤
Flat earthers are true empiricists. They don't rely on anyone's word, only their own experience. The earth they experience is flat therefore they have no reason to believe it's anything but flat. You have to respect that on some level.
No you don't. They respect no input from other people, so why should we respects theirs?
Flat earth map is so stupid. If you went by it, it would mean that australia is way further away from chile than china. Also i think its hilarious how the flat earth people just took the UN map and claimed it to be their map xD
That's why Russia and Greenland are so big, and India is so small!
Racist Polarist, Mercator!
Oh damn, they go and say it in the video!! Not fair!!!
I think 99% of Flat Earthers are trolling
A lot are not and a lot are christians because the bible tells them the earth is flat.
and that is even ignoring the young earth people who are a mix of believing in a flat and a round earth.
We have correct world maps.
You can buy them. They're all over the place.
They just happen to be round. Funny how that works.
Globes are the most accurate, but even they aren’t fully accurate because earth is an oblate spheroid.
Maybe flat earthenware see the planets and think they look flat which they do on TV.
they just want to be special.
Sorry but if at the end of the video you yrt wonder if is possible (even with the aid of computer) to render a sferic surface into a flat foil you don't get the point. Is geometry 101, you cant. Every try is jyst focused to show what's relevant for those map losing some dettail in the process. Try to envelop an apple with a paper whitout crumple, is easy to understand why you cant.
It's Japan, not like Japan
ADemocrat would say that it was all Trump's fault .lol.
First 🙂👍
One thing that irritating me from this video is that he keeps opening and closing tab every time he does research, why?
Dressed as a Hindu? 🤔
Same people that believe in the likes of trump
Sorry mate STOP STOPPING