Why every world map is wrong
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How do you show a round earth on a flat map? Is it possible? Jay and Mark find out using an orange and a rolling pin.
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JAY FOREMAN @jayforeman
MARK COOPER-JONES @markcooperjones
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i’ve already joined skillshare 4 times jay can i please have my family back now
If only there was a website that could teach you the skills needed to nogotiate them back
DeltaByte mmmmmm
@@DeltaByte that's what brilliant.org is for
No.But you could try.
i didn't know jay and the melon shared fans
3:05 search history:
naked trains
trains with their clothes off
steam locomotives not wearing any clothes
choo choo trains in the nip
Ok jay...
I wish i wasn't pausing the video in this second
yes, I checked as well...... hehehe
"naked trains" was a website, and not just a google search. That concerns me.
@@corbinpeacock8722 call the FBI
what time was this?
This is my favorite Map Men video. The laughing at the end, the stupid slapstick humor, the subject, hell, even the sponsorship is amazing.
Yeah, the sponsor is very funny.
The best sponsorship I have seen in my life.
is seriously no one gonna talk about how at 3:05 jay's search history is
"naked trains"
"trains with their clothes off"
"steam locomotives not wearing any clothes"
"choo choo trains in the nip"
it was time for Thomas to leave. he had seen everything.
He probably meant trans
@@spherius2account how do you explain "steam locomotives not wearing any clothes" then
At least it wasn't trams with no cloathes.
@@spherius2accountno he didn't, it was a joke
Portrait of the flat earth society: A man sniflling orange juice while another man beats a globe into flat submission.
Oh my, they do that shit in every meet. Those juicy hands
I mean, pretty accurate, tbh
"both laugh"
"snifling"
Put in a timestamp, e.g. 4:50.
"This has the naughty effect of making Greenland look the size of Africa, when really it's about the size of Greenland."
sam mccarthy that killed me
Actually about the size of india, a bit smaller.
@@SteaksOnSpear well greenland is not India
@@SteaksOnSpear Not completely sure. India is 50% (ish) larger than Greenland.
@@shinjukim8576 hmm no, no it's not
0:52 I like how Jay has a straight face the whole time but cracks a smile just before the cut 😂
If even Jay Foreman himself can’t do a scene without breaking character then no one can
Another notable projection to consider is Goode homolosine. This one was quite popular in the 60's. It's equal area, and retrains good continent shapes by sacrificing the shapes of oceans, which most folks find less troublesome than misshapen continents.
I just looked this up, and, if a map projection could ever be associated with a historical era, it screams 60's! I immediately visualized it in a Pan Am airlines brochure or lit up on the wall of a Bond villain's lair.
Cleaves greenland though
Just looked it up. Eurgh.
3:04 those are some steamy search results
I’m assuming Jay reads every comment because this comment is new-ish on an old-ish video that has been hearted by Jay.
Yes, Jay see's every new comments in all of his videos
Was that pun intentional?
Thank you for pointing this out! I had never noticed it before, but after seeing your comment I went back and looked - and laughed for 5 minutes straight 🤣
Gotta love a good pun:)
Today I learned that Greenland is about the size of Greenland.
Hmm yes the floore here is made out of floor
who would of thought it eh!
Did you know that every 60 seconds in Africa a minute passes?
sheev one and Were here to stop that
sheev one Thanks for coming to my ted talk
4:10 I think a right answer is to have at least two maps with different projections in classrooms, so that the students are constantly reminded that no single projection onto a flat surface is "correct", and that they all have different priorities about which distortions they are willing to accept. (As well as whatever the given projections happen to be good at rendering).
…because no map is wrong, and no map is right, but all map is map!
I think a right answer is to have a nice big globe in every classroom.
@@lornarettig3215 I totally read this as "but all map is men!" and laughed
@@bluesmcgroove …another interesting idea! 🤭🤭
You just described the natgeo map. It's the Mercato and the Peter's projection combined.
I'm one of those vulnerable loners scouring the internet for answers in an increasingly incomprehensible world ( 1:10 ), and I'm glad I landed on this gem!
3:37 That hurts you know
Your name is stupid you know
Objective as fuck
But is deviledegg0 a stupid username?
@@jeykies3745. yes
@DeviledEgg0 maybe so
That is the most entertaining advert ever. I'm not even mad.
Genuinely convinced me to try and get it
Pretty sure Jay and Mark's voices have been swapped round in the ad
Charlie Davies I think they confirmed they are
This was a ad??
@@kingfaz07 4:56 yeah it is
3:05 Jay's search history:
1. naked trains
2. trains with their clothes off
3. steam locomotives not wearing any clothes
4. choo choo trains in the nip
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is the first time I've seen the map men actually register their own silliness and jokes.
Skillshare song was just amazing.
Best sponsorship presentation so far in TH-cam
@I'm unsubscribing. yeah, you
The sponsorship I've enjoyed watching :)
The ONLY advertisement that got me to purchase the product being advertised
The only product advertisement i look forward to watching is on this channel
I'd give you a like but it's at 666...
The way you guys handle sponsorships is a gift to mother youtube
Alex good to see you here Alex! Colab with the boys/the men?
yeah not a bloody 5 minute long life less speech
Eeeeey no way haha
Collab
Literally the only reason why I liked this video
I will never not laugh at:
“STUPID ORANGE! STOP BEING ROUND! START BEING FLAT!”
4:33
Canada: are you OK?
Russia: no
I really miss that awkward last "men" in the intro
well the amount of men's varies. last episode there were a bunch and this one there's none because, despite what mathematicians may lead you to believe, zero is a number
I thought this was a Mandela effect thing, thanks for reassuring me!
@FoxySupreme well, happy pride month 🏳️🌈
You guys have been smoking some Mandela because the intro is the exact same as it’s always been.
@@Woolookologie Wasn't that just the intro of one specific episode?
lol in the skillshare portion jay sings for marks character and mark sings for jays character this is my third time watching and first time noticing
Owen Pasternak Now I can’t unsee it😂
Edit; *unhear
I watched it at least twenty times. I’ve never noticed that until I see your comment.
...
I thought it was Jay singing for both of them.
Well I feel stupid now ^^'
Im unconfortable
Bruh thats brilliant
You two have done the impossible task of making even the sponsorship bits fun to watch
4:30 Aside from the visual starkness of missing pieces, the Interrupted Projection map seems to be an ingenious solution to the Mercator distortion. I wouldn't want to use this map for navigation, but for the purpose of teaching us about the world around us, I applaud the concept.
Oh I wish I wish someone makes a map connecting the missing pieces before feeding their fish 💀💀💀
@@jonathankitsos1291if you connect the pieces, you get a globe
“ .. making Greenland look like it’s the size of Africa. When in real life, it’s the size of Greenland.”
It's *about* the size of Greenland.
Yea get it right smh.
*Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?*
South America is 18 times larger that Greenland wouldn't get that from the maps in school
Bruh
just realised their voices are switched in the advert
Eleanor Clark That's so cheeky of them
I just noticed that watching this video probably for the 10th time. Blew my mind. Then I came to comment it that but you were faster.
When?
@@cerebrummaximus3762 right at the end, in the advert for skillshare
bruh
I watched the whole ad... well done!! You guys rock!
2:25 According to this logic, I think I know the answer. The sides of the map will be more squished, and the center will be a bit bigger. But if you think about it the two sides are actually really close to each other, because the flat map is 2× stretchier than a globe, so it likes to show everything at once. The globe has many different angles to look at.
3:05 - can we just appreciate the search history here.
Holy cow catchers conductor you can see the undercarriage!
Well... Now I'm horny
i'm 100% sure that this does indeed exist but i kinda wanna make sure
What, is that not your search history too?
Unzipping pants
I'm so glad map men is having a second series
Hear, hear.
ear ear
there is much for them todo
ar ar
[house of commons rumbling intensifies]
Just recently found this channel. Great content. And probably the best sponsor ad I have ever seen on TH-cam.
When I was in school, we used the Robinson projection. Not perfect, but better than Mercator for scale. The ones where the world is broken into triangles are probably the best even if they are a bit odd. I'm sure some smart person could come up with an arrangement that looks a little more normal.
"Hold your onions, sonny Jim m'ladm'boy" enters my vernacular this day
Jim Jim Jimmy Jim Jim Jim
Consistently the best ads on TH-cam, it's the only time I ever enjoy watching brand promos
this and the internet historian have the absolute best ads, you're right
Fractal Design's ads on some techtuber channels are really good.
Dan B Design I think Adam Ragusea’s are pretty engaging. He actually seems to use the products he pushes.
I love the Sam O' Nella ones because it's so deadpan, and the promos on TierZoo are also pretty decent.
Check out Nostalgia Critic with his stamps.com
Timestamp 4:53 to 4:56 has become my favorite thing to show without context.
That was the first YT ad I watched from begining to end in about 2 years :o
I can't wait until Jay ends a video with a four hour long rock opera extolling the virtues of Skillshare.
I love this community
@@rayf1568 But did you clicked the link to give map men more money because at Skillshare you get 20,000+ courses for only $10 per month?
The song was genuinely amazing though.
Hi
@@obliviousotterI You again!
Not gonna lie, one of my favorite videos to ever write subtitles for.
Thank you for adding subtitles!
"hold your onions sunny Jim me lad me boy"
I'm so glad that you're not going to lie. The truth will set you free!
Thank you Mr Dutch man
I miss community captions :(
This is my first time watching your videos and i like you guys already, subbed ❤️
Always a pleasure spending the time with you boys. Thanks for the fun,
3:32
For those who are wondering, it says "This is bullshit", but spelled in Russian, not translated.
Мап мен
Уи ар мен энд хир из зе мап.
Before any smartass comes to argue it's Cyrillic, it's Russian because they cannot pronounce the "Th" in "this" so they replace it with "z". They also cannot say "Bluetooth", they say "Bluethus". Most other Cyrillic-alphabet countries can pronounce "th" - commonly as "d" (д).
@@ptrknvk Ай андерстенд ю май френд бат ю ар ронг. Зис ис КАРТА!
@@MaycroftCholmsky Зет вуд би фани. "Зис! Из! КАРТА!" энд кикс хим аут оф фрейм. Брилиянт айдия, мэйт!
It's quite astonishing how Mercator was able to do all of that before Belgium was invented
Belgium, man. Belgium.
@@GordoFabulous *South Netherland
@@EugeneAyindolmah *Northest Northern France
@@ariltherandomguyonyoutube5220 France? Didn't they surrender to all their neighbors
@@EugeneAyindolmah They can't surrender to a fictional country.
Just brilliant as always
That was the only time I rewatched the add. Great job
I really hope Skillshare pays extra for that ad, because it's by far the best one I've ever bloody seen, heard or smelled.
Admittedly it did smell just plain delicious
Smells like the cheesiest cheese
It smelled divine!
Smelled like orange juice and melted cheese!
Convincing flat-earthers that global warming is important because if Antarctica melts all the water will fall out.
Shit, I didn't think of that...
lol, but I mean if we can't persuade them the Earth is round, what chance do we have of persuading them global warming is a thing.
@@11atron not sure, but I do believe we should change the name from "global" warming to something else if we want to have a solid chance
Much Doge well I mean we have been trying to just call it climate change as global warming apparently confuses some people
@@marisaliu3236 OMG it snowed this winter! Global warming debunked!!!!
I genuinely just searched for this video for the advert alone.... Jay and Mark are truly genius.
First time seeing your videos. Love it! especially the song.
3:33 The russian letters sound like (NOT TRANSLATED) the words "zis is bulls**t"
The more i read the comment,the more i appeeciate the little details/easter eggs that they put in the video.
*laffs in slavic*
Btw it means "Russia is huge" in Russian
250 likes? I was once fooled by youtube into thinking my comment had 600k likes I won't fall for it again
But why use ‘iz’ ? Oh well, it’s a cool detail anyway.
I love that the map at 4:22 ("Oh, that's clever") is literally the map Tom Scott uses for his "Amazing Places" videos
So it is! I never noticed til now.
Since Tom Scott was responsible for graphics and animation on this channel... 🤔
@@maxant4285 How do you know this?
@@maxant4285 In the description it says that Jay edited it.
It is a clever map. It's one of my favourites.
4:54 love this moment. Thanks for keeping it it.
Great video. Never thought of a medieval person imagining a balloon. Always thought of Mercator putting a candle inside a globe and sketching the shadows on the cylindrical paper rolled around it. But very good illustration of distortions 👍🏻
I normally loathe sponsored videos, mainly because half the freaking content is the creator pimping the sponsor. However, your manner of brand integration was clever and catchy, and I found that I didn't mind it at all even though I was essentially watching an advert. Nice work.
Dude I actually watched it through and didn't click on the next video. That's a never.
0:55 "But you can make juice ..."
I love how Jay's trying so hard to keep it, but can't help but crack after all 😂
that's what she said
Jays a boy
He did well to keep a straight face for as long as he did xD
I was supposed to comment that bit Insaw your on top
Wtf is your username
This is my first viewing of a video with these two guys. I'll certainly search for more. Well done, gents.
The ad at the end was better than the main video. And this was a great video.
this is the most british channel I've ever watched
edit: why is this turning into an argument about flat earth
My eyes are colonised
YES!
What's wrong with that?
@@robertsingleton7694 Absolutely nothing.
They're Brits, they would know more about the map than anyone else because they're responsible for most of its borders...
4:50 When a scene is so silly that even Jay and Mark can't keep a straight face
0:54
in the full clip they laugh
you can see jay smirk and hear him chuckle
@@pertmang197 yes. That's what I'm saying
@@CultOfAlan i knew that :|
The genuine laughter just makes it funnier
I love this so very much!!!
0:55 - love the cut away just as you broke character with a little laugh xD
Whomever did the Dutch subtitles, you're bloody brilliant with the rhyming subtitles to the skillshare song and still keeping the message!
@Thomas Joosten
Many thanks, good sir.
@@TypicallyThomas Je haatte je baan, je haatte je leven, je wilde daar ver vandaan...
Now I need to watch it again with dutch subtitles
Hey, is anyone named Peters here? No, there Arno Peters here.
Get out.
_hysterical laughter_
Lmao I laughed way harder than I should’ve😂
🥁bad-um tish
Begone, foul Dad Joke, to the Abyss whence you came!
Extremely hilarious video. I'm glad you show Dymaxion Map, which is favorite flat map. I never listened to a Skillshare ad before yours. Good job, old boys.
Love you guys.
4:54 The moment of them finally losing it that we've waited for for ages.
Sean Sutton true. You can see jay smiling face down 10s before John loose it.
Love them.
You can see Jay smile at 0:54.
They have finally been consumed by their own genius.
4:56. I've only just realised they switched their voices around.
Wtf I watched this video 3 times and just now I realized it
Same!
They what!
what the fuck
Same
4:11 it’s actually mathematically proven you can’t perfectly map a sphere to a plane, which has to do with space curvature
Think of diving the world into 8 sections, and how the boundary of each section would be a triangle with *3 right angles!*
If all adverts were done on this level of humor I would never mind 2-3 as per 15min vid on TH-cam. And also, it is criminal I only discovered this channel, I am in love. Never was that interested in cartography but this channel is just too good.
"First of all 'Arno' is a stupid name."
*sighs knowing it's true*
Darling, have you thought of a name for the baby yet?
Arr .. no
Arno it is then
BTW, do you have siblings called Huh, What and Sayagen ?
Sounds like a cool name to me.
arnold schwarzenegger must have had a difficult time when he moved to USA
F
Oh it's way less stupid in Germany. Move here! We have free university!
2:58 the comment hinting at 3:21
Mapmenception
Do I hate Mars bars
@@MrCheeze Nice IHE reference there
Jay says size matters. Mark says size doesn't matter, it's how you use it.
They were arguing about maps, of course, not about the giant inflatable penis.
love these guys. I actually laugh out loud (not just LOL). I might even consider Skillshare.
0:54 I love how you left the slightest of chuckles in the cut there
3:05
"naked trains"
"trains with their clothes off"
"steam locomotive not wearing any clothes"
"choo choo trains in the nip"
I hate Mars bars
😄😄😄
Thomas the Tank Engine Rule 34.
TommyKiryu 777 i have seen these dark lands
@@trollfacetwatbag2913 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
All these Map Men episodes in one year? We're not worthy!
They're spoilling us!
I'm just wishing they don't pull a GRRM on us
God bless skill share!
@@thelastcube. They've gotta spoil us first so we miss them when the 7 year hiatus starts
Loved the top of the pops chart countdown music :)
The 3D Lemmings music at 0:13 was an unexpectedly strong flashback
That was the best Skillshare advert ever. I'd actually listen to it casually, lmao
the maps are changed because of the mandela effect and we are at the end th-cam.com/video/E6T1PfBIHew/w-d-xo.html
Nobody Going To Talk About How Mark Managed To Spin That Globe So It Matched Its Original Position?
That wasn’t on purpose, it was a remarkable fluke
mygod. after finding out their voices are switched in the advert, the comments in the video, then this? Is there any hidden details that are still hiding? I think we have the best episode lol
I have a feeling that may be a design of that globe. It seems to brake suddenly when it hits that position, implying that the globe may have a mechanism that brakes it a certain angles of rotation. Still a fluke to hit the exact same one, obviously, but also a design of the globe, probably to keep it from spinning at low speeds.
@@JayForeman I guarantee that was on purpose.
0:16 0:22
my geography teacher at school was awesome and I highly suspect if this had been uploaded while I was there he would have shown this in class, shout out to Mr Barrett and all the awesome geography teachers around the not flat world
Did anyone else notice that for the advert their voices are switched, jay speaks for mark and vice versa?
3:33 the russian literally says 'zis iz bulshit' i love it
They must be very angry and wanted to start a new revolution to conquer the world
Haha, nice find.
Mary no, zis iz BOOLSHEET
Mary, Thank you for that.
Tclans no she’s wrong, read my reply!!!!
3:05
Naked trains
Trains with their clothes off
Steam locomotives not wearing clothes
Choo choo trains in the nip
Lol
Lol
loL
Lol
Lol
Great song! The effort! Well done map men.
I'm impressed by how long they could keep their faces straight during the orange flatening sequence.
Slight correction: A straight line on a Mercator map isn't a straight line on the earth, Mercator's advantage is that the angles are preserved at any given point. For example, two lines meeting at a 30 degree angle IRL would be at a 30 degree angle on Mercator. This only works at points though, if you draw a line on a globe and project it onto a Mercator it will be curved.
Stereographic projection is also angle preserving. Why don't we use that?
@@Anonymous-df8it Because it's even worse. Not only does it distort shape massively, but it literally can't show the whole surface of the earth
@@Jacob-yg7lz The same problem occurs in Mercator. The north and south poles are at infinity, so we just chop them off! Why can't we do that in stereographic projection?
@@Anonymous-df8it Because the map literally becomes way too big if you include anything at above/below a certain line of longitude. Seriously, look up stareoscopic projections, you won't see any that don't have entire continents cut in half.
@@Jacob-yg7lz You mean latitude. And, in the Mercator projection, you're not going to find one that doesn't have the poles chopped off (and everything above 85 degrees latitude, I think!)
I had a geography teacher in high school, and we pranked him by replacing all the maps in his room with just inferior projections. He didn't notice immediately, but when he went to point at one he was like "......."
This is hilarious!!
What were the original projections and what were the replaced projections?
on my latest rewatch i thought to myself that the first orange smash mustve been filmed 2nd last but then i realised that no, it wasnt and for the remainder of the shoot the table and mark had smashed orange on them. Great dedication to the craft.
Just discovered your channel. Loving it ❤
BTW I noticed the subtle joke at 02:58 (with YT comment)
I love how Jay holds it together right up until the last nine frames at 0:54 ...
You have the actual eyes of sonic the hedgehog. The 90s one.
3:05 "steam locomotives not wearing any clothes"
Ah yes, I see you're a man of culture.
Why is no one reply too you
The ads at the end of your videos are the first I've ever watched and actually enjoyed.
I'm in isolation and I'm pretty sure you guys are saving me from insanity. So thank you for your mad geography skills.
I don’t remember making that comment.
Pretty sure Trollface Twatbag wasn't sober at the time
I love how at 0:17 the globe almost lands back in the exact same place as when you first spun it!
Nice catch
Such a great observation
I like Mollweide's Interrupted Homolographic, which is in the geology/demographics type maps in Phillips kids' atlases.
It puts curved divides, same type as at 4:30 but not so many + through the oceans, so the landmasses stay unified. Northern hemisphere has only 1 divide, southern has 2, up the Atlantic + Indian oceans.
5:20 I love the random appearance of the Paraguayan currency
Another Map Men episode!? You do spoil us, Jay.
Omg this is the one and only skillshare ad that i actually didn't skip
I know!!
i actually replayed it
@@foodtruck1007: Same
Good stuff
Brilliant stuff guys 😂👏