Here's How the 2023 Ford F-150 RATTLER Shakes Up the World of Off-Road Pickup Trucks!
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In this video Andre & Nathan dive deep into the new Ford F-150 Rattler to find out if it will rock the off-road truck world!
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Roman!!! H*LL YEAH!! I agree soooo much about the dealer markups. I was trying to buy a Jeep Gladiator Willys from a Stellantis dealership and they very inappropriately tried to slide a market price adjustment in on the deal and lied and weaseled their way , but would NIT say what it was. I walked out, but spoke with every potential client in the location, in the show room, service, on the lot until I was removed politely by city police service at the request of the dealership!! Hahaha!!! I have trashed them, and all local dealerships playing games. The Stellantis dealership tried to threaten me with slander,,,,,, I laughed and offered to take out a full page in the local newspaper (it’s a couple of grand, but not like in big markets) and they threatened libel as well. I showed them what I would put down and asked them to honestly review my statement,,,,, they did, said it was accurate and hung up. I have not heard from them since.
I have to guess that their one moment of greed cost them at least 30+ clients!! I met other people that felt similar, but weren’t quite so bold as me, but they steered people away also! That dealership has the largest inventory in the city!!! Hahaha. They recently stopped charging OVER MSRP on most of their products and it started clients coming back,,,,,, I’ll never go back!!
Stellantis dealership? Would NIT? City police service? This was not in the US, I presume?
Thank you Roman, I've been complaining on every car blog site i can for the longest time that someone needs to offer a plugin hybrid Pick Up. As you mentioned and what I agree with it's the best of all world's, for a truck you don't care about the extra weight (if it doesn't hurt payload too much), you get the instant torque help, ability to say go 25-35 miles on a charge could take care alot of daily city driving and then when you go tow long distances you don't care about a charging network and while doing that. I've been really hoping someone comes out with one instead of just only gas or electric only pick ups
I agree.
I also agree, but I’m not sure any manufacturer will do one, too expensive guessing. Got a Lightning Pro coming next month at msrp at $47k
Roman, you made many good points today. Good show, enjoyable.
I love this version of Roman!!! Give 'em hell buddy
From Georgia was visiting Colorado going to a ski trip and realized we were driving on the Ike gauntlet . Beautiful country cool road.🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲✌️
Ford giving us truck enthusiasts lots of love and options.
Too bad supply chain issues is ruining it for now! :(
@@BryBurger hopefully that issue will be taken care of later.
Now we need a Maverick Grabber.
Great breakdown as usual.
Roman with the COLLEGE STATION shout out! WHOOP!
Here's another good scenario you have a bad storm coming power has been out for example even if you fully charged your truck you are told to evacuate so what people do they load as much as their personal items load up the camper and they take off now your range goes down to near 100 150 miles you're stuck in traffic with everybody trying to get out and then you got to stop so often to try to get charged hopefully you make it out of the no powers zone where there is power outage what do you do??? Think about the scenario especially for the coast living people so therefore fully electric is not the wisest idea in many situations like this so that's why I think hybrid powertrain would be the best option when it comes to pickup trucks and towing operations
Yessssss more rattler content please!!
Great show fellas
Actually excited for this. Wish you could get a torsion front diff like the tremor
I suspect spell check got ya! 😂😂 “Torsen” front differential. Haha.
I think the goal was to fill a gap vs repeat something they already (sort of) have. If you get a base Tremor, they are not super expensive. They won’t be much more than the Rattler, but have much better content. Kind of like the XLT vs the XL. They can add up soon though.
Hey guys I seen your video of the rattler I believe the tire's on that truck is the General Grabber (BSW ) not sure but they look like they are
Had on board air on a 86’ Olds wagon for load leveling.
Roman... likes... Big... Trucks and he cannot lie.. you other brothas can't deny!!! :)
From what I've seen of Roman until today I always kind of wondered if he really understood trucks. Today I found out that he not only gets it, he can explain it much better than I can. Great video guys.
The Home Depot/Best Buy analogy was spot on.
Roman, GMs Tow/Haul Mode is only useful at 75% or more of GCWR. It is not needed for lighter loads.
The tires on the F-150 Rattler look like they are possibly Toyo A/T 3’s or falken Wildpeak A/T 3W’s. Rattler would be a great truck for those of us that don’t do tons of off roading but gives you the affordable ability to like Roman side hunting or just some light weight off roading.
I truly wish you would let me bring my two door cyber orange first edition bronco be tested against your 4 door.
I have been a Patreon supporter of you over a year. Love your content
I have the same gripe about my f150 not shutting off features that obviously don’t apply in certain situations… I put my truck in tow haul mode, hook up a trailer, tell the truck everything about the trailer, pull away all is well… put it in reverse, backup sensor go crazy… It knows it is hooked to a trailer turn off the backup sensors !
To your talk about the Rivian, I think it is like an overland SUV. They are offroad capable, but mostly go on gravel roads.
14:59 For starters on RAM 1500 (DT): 1)every trim is available w/ a Off-road package. . 2)Backcountry package is available on Bighorn 3)Rebel is available in GT. . TRX is top dog.
They can probably make the TPMS sensors tied to speed so it only comes on at a certain speed.
The tpms warnings on a Tacoma Offroad are driver set... you air down ...press a button and hold it and it resets the tpms pressure.
Doesn't the Jeep Wrangler and Gladiator have the ability to set the tire pressure alert to a lower value if you have the Offroad+ package?
5:30 "It follows the Ranger Tremor" A limited TREMOR package was released in 2014 in FX2 and FX4 packages. I believe less than 3000 were released. The package included everything you said about an FX package including 4:10 gears, interior upgrades, and short bed-standard cab only. I own one and it is 1 of 2025 FX4 produced.
Yeah I have a 2014 FX2 tremor
Can you guys do a real world comparison that includes a standard XL crew 4x4, an "FX4" crew 4x4, a "Rattler" crew 4x4, and a "Tremor" crew 4x4? Make sure the base XL has the $400 rear locker option. No fancy colors, make em all Oxford White (trust me, you make one black, and there will be those that automatically pick that one as the best "offroader" lol). My bet is there won't be any difference. And before anyone says that the "more aggressive" tires would help the others when compared to the XL, I would say this: yes, the tread might be slightly more aggressive than the all seasons on the XL, but the diameter isn't that much bigger (32" on XL versus 33" on all above trims--which equates to only a HALF INCH more sidewall), and all are still P rated (no factory F150 package is available with the tougher LT tires found on true offroad rigs). My point is this: the most basic sub-$40k F150 crewcab with 4x4 and electronic locker is already a very capable vehicle off road; just as capable as the "sticker trims." All of these mediocre "offroad" packages and trims are really only about profit margins. People love catchy stickers and seat stitching. Real world off-the-pavement differences in experiences, however, are minimal at best. I remember when the Raptor was really the only "offroad upgrade" you could get above a "regular" 4x4 F150. That was/is a true upgrade in my opinion: completely different suspension system, 35" tires (now 37"), specific body panels, front lockers, etc. There is a huge difference there! All of these others are just fluff. I wouldn't have a problem with the "fluff" packages, if they were priced fairly. They aren't. Artificial hype has allowed inflated pricing. So I'll just continue with my XL with rear locker and throw on a better set of tires (with dealer credit for the eom tire trade) and run right alongside any of the fluff trims for many thousands of $$$ less, thank you.
You may want to mention the weight of the vehicle when reviewing, there are huge differences between manufactures.
Remember FX4 is an off road package that can be added to any trim level ie lariat, xlt, xl etc
This is basically a FX4 with all the right options selected, But with the Rattler, you do gain "Adventurous Decals", I'm waiting for something along the line of a 2" lift (Trail Boss) with all the FX4 goodies.
Ford adding a V8-supercharged will be great. GM needs to add the 6.2L supercharged to the ZR2.
if someone gave me a Raptor with the 5.2 supercharged I'd exchange it for the 3.5 without ever opening a door.
How many can afford the Supercharged models? You? So many wish for these things and can never afford them.
@@shitloveaduck all true, trucks are expensive enough without more features. And markups are even worse. Would look great in my neighbors driveway.
@@rondail5675 - I hear ya! My cousin has a TRX and paid MSRP!! He was very early and before the real greed took ver. Thee local dealership has sold him about a dozen vehicles over the last 15 years or so, and this was his last with them due to their huge markups and lack of transparency on them. He bought his first Ford just 3 weeks ago for a work truck! It is a 2.7 F150 SuperCab XL model with most of the XL options, but it was a brand new 2021 and he got almost $4,000 Canadian off the price!! The market will eventually stabilize and those greedy dealers will notice the clients they lost!!! Heh heh. The Ford dealership I use has been good to deal with all the time I have been dealing with them. During this shortage and when special vehicles like the GT500 show up,,,, he refuses to charge over MSRP. You may end up paying exactly MSRP, but he will include the dealer fees then and throw in a handful of swag,, hats, key chains and some other paraphernalia. He has a huge loyal network of long term repeat buyers. I think in the long run he does better than the greedier dealerships. He was run off his feet until he could catch up on hiring experienced salespeople and the back end staff for doing the PDI and prepping deliveries. He has trucks arriving almost daily now, including Weekends, and it’s hard to keep up and get the ordered and pre-sold vehicles to their owners. He does a lot of the detailing himself as he can’t get enough and also keep enough that aren’t catching this damn COVID!!! He figures another month and just about all his staff will have had it and the problem will stop until another strain shows up!!! Hahaha.
That’s life!!! He gots sooo much work when the other ford dealerships in a 4 hour radius started doing markups and he refused,,,,,l good problem to have!!! Too many sales!!
@@shitloveaduck So have you ridden in the TRX? Is it amazing?
I know you're only covering Full size trucks in the podcast. I mentioned on another channel that was reviewing the Maverick, about how great it would be if Ford released a Grabber packaged Maverick just for customer nostalgia. And it could come in off road or street/track package. I would prefer street.
Fun video. So many trucks huh? I have to say price is such a deal breaker in some of these trucks. I think trucks are like America these days…just a huge mix of styles . Personally I like dependability and value .
One thing I’ve been noticing is obscenely high apr rates at some places. Skimming off an apr is not unheard of, but I have a feeling that some places are going beyond the regulatory bounds that exist.
Did the rattler die on the vine? For all this talk when it was announced, it seems to have disappeared from the truck talk churn online. Have they been seen in the wild?
I'm excited for the Rattler, I'm curious to see how much they'll charge for it.
Andre,,,, BSW is “Black Side Wall” vs OWL “Outlined White Letter” vs WSW White Sidewall vs WWSW Wide White Sidewall.
Hahaha. You fellas have soo much to know and tires are just one more thing. The thing is ,,,,,,,, Tire knowledge is very important!!! Listen to Paul when he talks about a car before track testing them!! The recent video of the Toyota G86 vs the MX5.
THIS truck, the Rattler, IS A RANCH TRUCK!! Showy enough for the cattle sales or auctions, and functional enough to be effective in TRUE ranch conditions.
The Ram is currently the highest priced truck in Southern Alberta (excluding the Ram 1500 Classic) out the door, feature for feature.
Roman, The OEMs are just lazy.
33:15 Tradesman+Off-road package, Bighorn Backcountry, Laramie +Offroad package, Rebel, Rebel GT, Longhorn+Off-road package, Limited + off-road package?, TRX.
My local dealership is charging 7k extra on a ram 1500 for pinstripes and free towing for the life of the truck. I went there to order a jeep willys with the extreme recon. It was 46k then they tacted on another 8k for themselves. I walked out and never going back. OH!. Milford ram and jeep in Milford Pennsylvania .
I will always think of the Sig Sauer MCX Rattler first.
where does the timberline name fit in the ford family below or above the FX4
Above. It’s almost a Tremor version of the SUVs.
Depends on the car. On the Explorer it's way below the FX4. On the Expedition it's slightly above.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 it’s a stand alone trim level on both the Expedition and Explorer. It’s above the Limited for them both.
@@bobdennis4801 Yes, just as the Tremor is a stand-alone trim. I was assuming he was referring to off road capability. The capability of the Timberline on the Explorer is a joke. On the Expedition it's rather good.
And it's not necessarily "above" the Limited, although more expensive. The interior appointments are less than the Limited.
Hey Andrei, Multimatic is the company and DSSV is their product.
The tires say "Proxes 2000", which is not a current light truck AT tire. They showed this same tire on the early Bronco press photos. Also, the tread is a carbon copy of the K02.
On other trucks, there’s a Proxy 2000 that shows the tread as the Pirelli Scorpion tires like on Andres truck. They are possibilities, but truly just representations. You are correct. The name is not exactly current but there are brands that have the sub-brand Proxys like Toyo tires. It may be discontinued now mind you. There’s the Proxxis as well.
The 🐍 cool 😎 name guys like always great video’s 🇺🇸 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸rattler
Rams first commercial will be a baby with a baby rattler.
I just want to know when someone is going to get their hands on one to review.
Love the name Rattler... pair that with the Gaston flag and it sounds like freedom to me.
Kinda looks like this rattler could have the AT Hankook tires from other trims in the F150 line
Tires will likely be the generals from the tremor. All BSW means is black side wall out which makes me think the tires are something thats available with white letters.
Those tires look like Goodyear Wrangler Tires to me.
How does the Rattler compare to the Roush?
Credit to RAM for being first with best interiors and then TRX.
The TRX and Demon will be amongst the most esteemed car collectibles 50 years from now. What Ram and Dodge managed to deliver to their customers for less than $100k will be talked about for many years to come. At a time that the average car is selling for nearly $50k, the seemingly physics-defying performance they were able to harness in those 2 packages, at their relative price is almost inconceivable.
Reality: fiat/ RAM sits in the junk yard, wait for it, but interior is nice ( maybe)
BSW means Black Side Wall
GLASS BRAKING!!! I see Stone Cold Steve Austin pulling up and opening the can of whoop a**
BSW - Black Side Wall
28:00 Roman! The Hummer EV has 8-lug wheels. = HD. .. = up another weight class. . lol 😆. . 29:40 .. but I agree with both of you here .. 50:39..
Make tire pressure like traction lock make it speed related.🤯 Manufacturer's are held back by lawyers.
THE reasons a tire blows out is because it is under inflated or overloaded,,,, period. If you air down, you are generally low enough to cause a very high possibility of having, not one, but multiple blowouts. The sidewalls get hot and the cords in the sidewalls start to fail and the tire blows out. People say a tire is crap because of a blowout, but if you look very closely you will find a puncture in the tire or you have a half ton and are trying to haul 3000 lbs.
There’s the rare situation where a tire separates, but they are rough until they start losing air and then blowout! In this case the tire is likely crap. Old Uniroyals were bad for this in the 80s and 90s, but eventually Michelin bought the company and Uniroyal has some very decent mid priced tires now.
Been driving semis for nearly a decade. The only time I've had a blowout, was when I got lazy and didnt check an inner dual tire's pressure before departing. Been driving on chinese recap tires, and as long as they aren't overloaded or underinflated, they last.
Rivian is more Austin than College Station. College Station is mostly Aggies. As in agriculture = working image which isn’t really the Rivian.
Black sidewall
The Rivian was created by a product designer (It looks like a toaster)
I don't like tow haul mode while towing smaller loads. I tow my mower and lawn equipment on a small 5x8 trailer and a load that light doesn't cause a noticeable difference in braking or shifting. The shift profiles in tow mode are not programmed for different weight loads and becomes a bigger hassle than pushing the button when hooking up to larger loads. Ford trucks are made for guys who work their trucks everyday, not the suburbanite weekenders who need the automatic systems to boost their own confidence while towing minimal loads.
Kind of reminds me of a STX appearance package on steroids. I like it. Mostly because I can ½ way afford it.
I believe “BSW” just means black sidewall tires.
Andre is right... affordable transportation
Boy the automakers are you guys and give you a full-time job
I don't think BSW is a brand. I think it means Black Side Wall. Most f150's come standard with white letters out on the tires.
I bet Ford put in the backup beep to be compliant with workplace rules, and even more important, insurance policies, which require it, since so many people use Ford trucks for work. I don't mind it. The low speed hum is more annoying when up in the woods, but it's not bad either.
I do agree that if you want to tow a relatively heavy trailer long distance and have electric power, the Powerboost Hybrid is so far the best choice. Insane gas range + electricity when you get there. But this, whether Ram or Powerboost, is probably best not hauling more than 6000 lbs, otherwise they swing around too much at freeway speeds in wind or when semis go by. I am really curious how the Lightning or e-Silverado will do with all the battery weight. For just doing local region camping, I think they will be fine. For long distance, I will be zipping by with my GoFast wedge-tent camper on my Lightning!
Cool features but I'm worried (like most vehicles built post COVID) it will live up to its name
I hate tow mode that's why engine braking on the 5.0 is crazy i rather use my brakes unless in the mountains
49:00 Despite being GM I’d have a hummer too .. If I have to take x amount of hours charging my EV truck from 0% charge, I may aswell have “ultra heavy duty HD!!”.🤣
BSW is black side wall
I think with trucks they just need to stop at making it a hybrid especially for the ones that tow cuz nobody ain't going to buy a truck that can go a merely a hundred and fifty miles and then they have to sit there and charge it especially when you towing and having the fight to pull through you're not going to be productive versus an ice truck which is you can easily get 300 plus miles on a tank and pull through to a gas station and fill up in a matter of minutes or two... Kind of like the Toyota Prius it is self-sufficient it gets excellent fuel mileage it recharges itself as you drive it therefore you can drive it like a normal vehicle put it the little gas that it takes and you can easily get 500 mi out of a little 10 gallon tank they need to do the same concept with pickup trucks or at least if they do full electric a way to use a on-board generator so you can recharge yourself in emergency just a good idea
I agree with Roman. Rivian R1T is an adventure vehicle, like a Honda Ridgeline and Hyundai Santa Cruz. None of them are "trucky" enough. I would classify the new Hummer Pickup and the Silverado EV the same exact way. Manufacturers are trying to bend the rules of what a truck should be and do. I think this is purposeful as they know EV's will not tow and haul well with the current infrastructure. Just take a look at the new Toyota Tundra, with no tow hooks and Toyota has stated that you can no longer use their truck to plow snow because it will overheat. Pretty soon we're going to be forced to buy a 3/4 ton to do "truck" stuff. The 1/2 ton segment is turning into a metrosexual targeted joke.
if you want an electric truck, for towing and work COPY THE RR , make a diesel engine to generate electric power for the electric motor that's why the RR moves the most amount of weight for the least amount of $$$ , in 2022 you can apply the same tech to a 1/2 ton truck , and it would work
Where are the hybrid diesel trucks??
I’ve asked that question. It’s physics. Both diesel engines and batteries are insanely heavy and expensive. You might gain 1-2 MPG for an extra $15k. It’s just not practical.
@@Libertarian_Neighbor practical left the building long ago in terms of cost. Your gains on mileage in a hybrid diesel might be more impactful because the added torque from the diesel would be less affected by the weight. When your battery runs out a diesel does not care as much as that little gasser.
Sad to say but the Ram TRX is the pinnacle of the pickup. I think it's all downhill from here.
Just got a call from the dealer about my V8 Rattler! They said my other is held up because it needs to change to 3.5 EB! Anyone else also get this line? Dealer said they didn't know why. I am guessing Ford does not want to design a dual exhaust for the V8.
makes me wonder if they will keep the dual exhaust for the now for the v8 Tremor
I want to see a Ram TRX commercial with Megadeth's "Symphony of Destruction" as the driver rips on it bombing through the desert as it's last hurrah before this ev fad takes hold. Roman, I know you've got contacts at Ram, make it happen cap'n
If the Ford Rattler's that end up on dealer lots are UNDER $50,000 I will be amazed. I have a feeling the price will be higher than expected (like what happened with the Ram Back Country) and the "value" aspect will be extremely questionable/subjective. Hope I'm wrong
Must be a "Jeep thing" when BSW vs White Letter Sidewall is an option
Dealers are their own worst enemy. I once overheard a dealer try to charge over $500 for a 4x4 service on a truck with 40kmi to change diff fluid and transfer case fluid. Dealers are ballsy like this because their very existence is protected by law in most states. I'm hoping Tesla and now Ford begin to change the industry and how dealers interact with their customers.
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My F250 rides like a farm truck… 75 psi in the tires
I will take the Lightning Roman.
Talk about the Rattler...
It’s a parts bin trim, I like it…
Offroad doesn't mean horsepower. Idk why Raptor and trx are placed at the top so easily, just because they have hp. Offroad isn't just desert running. It's rocks, desert, trails, mud, sand, etc.. show me a test where Raptor and trx are beating tremors and trds at most of the offroading elements, to be placed at 1st. If so cool. Then, the zr2 isn't built to be a desert runner. It's to be the most versatile offroad truck. Just because it's not supercharged and costs 100k doesn't mean it wouldn't outperform them in most offroad situations. This is like saying the demon challenger is better than the z28. No its not lol it is at a single straight line. That's it.
Rivian is much practical and twice efficient than super expensive Hummer. That’s why hummer is heavy it has more battery. All electric are great within range if you charge at home. It is great for people who seldom toe. Any version of F150 is useless as work vehicle to haul & tow any serious weight, buy 250 or 350 if you need it for work
BSW=black side wall!
So the things you hate about the rivian are things you love on the Santa cruz
IF you want to be sold a truck, you came to the right place.... NEVER an OBJECTIVE word. ALWAYs B.S. from these CLOWNS who Advertize to the highest bidder.
These are the CLowns who told you the Mercedes Metris is a "Modern Minivan" with it's 120lb solid rear 3 row seat and antiquated Dash/controls.
I won't buy an EV unless it's the only mode of transport available. The current EV power infrastructure is garbage.
BSW stands for black side wall....duhhhhh
BSW means black side wall. No brand
Lol @ BSW... Better than OWL. 😂
Been saying this for months but if the raptor doesn’t cease to exist then this is it’s replacement….
I think raptor “R” was the meant for the ranger and what is actually going to come out is the raptor E plug in hybrid.
Which I’m ok with lol. Would be badass and like the Jeep Wrangler just make it even better then it already was. As long as they pair with current engine.
Glad to say I’ll have one of the last 23/24 raptors once it’s built but still a hybrid option will be dope.
Electric trucks are like computers. Each year the computer gets stronger and more capable. Once you buy one it becomes obsolete.