Which 2023 F-150 Tremor Engine should you buy? V8 vs. V6
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- V8 or V6??? Which engine should you get on the 2023 Ford F150 Tremor? Both the 5.0L Coyote V8 and the 3.5L EcoBoost V6 have their pros and cons but which one is better on these trucks.
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I thought there wasn't a price difference in v6 or V8 on tremor trim
Thanks for the comment! After some investigating it seems you are correct. Typically there was a $500-$1,000 difference, but not on the 2023 Tremors.
3.5 costs more
@@fordtrucks3960
Not on a Tremor f150
The Tremors specifically have no extra cost for either engine option.
No cost difference.
I do a lot of towing, boat and camper. I had a 2017 3.5 ecoboost and loved it. In 2020 I purchased a new f150 with the 5.0 and the truck got the job done but just worked harder. I just went back to the 3.5 in my 2023 and will not go back to a 5.0.
Can't replicate the sound of a Coyote.
Compared to the coyote, the ecoboost sounds like hot garbage. With that said, I'll take the extra 90 pound feet of torque and better fuel milage over that awesome coyote sound every day and twice on Sunday.
Or the durability of a V8. I'd prefer not to deal with a turbo charged engine, especially over 100K miles.
Cant tow anything either without the motor screaming it’s lungs out. It’s a mustang motor. High revving low torque on the bottom. You’ll get to hear your coyote when it’s at 6500 rpm when towing. The 3.5 is a much better truck motor
The EcoBoost isn’t trying to nor-does it need to. If one needs a V8, nothing else will do.
@@jimsteinway695 I'm pretty sure the Coyote was "detuned" or up-torqued for the truck to get more level torque, so it isn't exactly the same motor. I went back and forth for a while, but as someone who doesn't tow much and maybe can afford to eat a little more in mpg, I went with the V-8. Then again, I'm an old and am more concerned with longevity for an engine. I could be wrong on that count, but turbos have historically had issues at higher mileage (and, I can't lie, I love the sound of a V-8 too). Peace, Love!!
Just purchased a 2023 3.5 ecoboost ! The power Is ALWAYS THERE. I'm in love !!!
I love the coyote, I had it in my 2017 f150. But when I traded that in for the 2022 tremor with the 3.5 eco, I gotta say I am that much happier with that decision. Without having to customize anything I feel a lot more speed and power with the eco. But I would say that the coyote is no slouch either but there’s definitely a difference. Just my opinion, can’t go wrong with either
Which is more reliable?
@@nadermilite5652both as long as you current on the maintenance schedule and not abusing either engine. Turbo V6 models are just as reliable so don’t fall for the hype just because they cost more to replace.
Nice thanks for doing this test. This is a rare video for this comparison
Glad you liked it!
5.0 for the exhaust notes👍👍
Finally. Someone is having this conversation.
Ask any ford mechanic. Every one of them will tell you they prefer the 5 liter. Less maintenance, easier to work on, and more reliable.
The ecoboost makes 90 more pound feet of torque and gets better fuel economy.
judging by the towing tests - 5.0 is more economical than ecoboost
@@polivcentr Likely because it makes less torque. Supposing the engines are equal efficiency, that is, they produce around the same hp/fuel burned if the ecoboost is making 500ft/lbs towing up hill and the coyote is only making 410 the ecoboost will be consuming more fuel at that point. In low load situation, like just cruising on the highway, not in boost the ecoboost should have the advantage. That being said, keeping your foot out of it is another story for both engines.
The immense low end shove of the 3.5 vs the sound of the 5.0
Depending on where you live also, I used to do quite a bit of driving in the Canadian Rockies and the Hemi trucks could never keep up, That was back in 2012.
I now live in the same area again and will be buying this truck with the turbo engine
Put small turbos on the V-8 and shut it down😍!
After having 3 ecoboost I went with a 19 5.0 and added a whipple. Just got a 23 tremor with 3.5. Full bore the whipple 5.0 is one bad ride but for everyday driving I’ll take the 3.5.
Currently have a ‘15 3.5EB. Definitely my next truck I’m going with the Tremor 402A Antimatter blue 5.0. Just want to change it up. I currently have 140k on my truck now.
3.5l absolutely kicks butt
No comparison against a current v8 natural aspirated truck competitor of any brand out there
I have. 23 Tremor 402A 3.5- it’s a rocket ship hands down. Buckets of torque at 2200rpm. Breaks tires loose at 30min if you stomp on it. Quick as a Raptor in 1/4 mile at 13.9 car (car /driver review 2018) Fuel economy, towing instant power -all there. It sounds pretty good actually at idle and at throttle - I was impressed for v6. Best truck I’ve owned. Try it in sport mode for the full effect
Same here. Love it.
@@Mjr1348 i have new one , i love it
How about shows about the Platinium? Please sir...
I have a V* Tremor and its soooooooooo nice love that sound
If I was buying to keep I would go with the Coyote for reliability and sound because I do miss my old F150 v8 dual exhaust sound, but I have had many 3.5 twin turbo F150's and love them, I lease a 2023 Tremor with the 3.5 and it is a great truck, very happy !
What’s a lease payment on a Tremor look like if u don’t mind me asking?
How did you lease a Tremor? Ford doesn't lease Raptors or Tremors. Not calling you out, I just don't know how you pulled that off.
Not sure why the confusion, maybe different structures in different countries I'm in Ontario, Canada and was no problem to lease one threw Ford Canada.@@tewksburydriver8624
My '22 Ecoboost Tremor sounds fine and it really moves when the turbos spin. Sound is such a ridiculous reason to choose a V8 but whatever someone wants is up to the buyer for sure.
😂I agree but that sound is sooo satisfying
Lol, some of us are old and need to be reminded that the engine is bad-ass. Plus, the supercharged Coyote is pretty awesome if you have torque envy. In addition, it seems I will get my truck in a month or two compared to the 6-8 months for a V-6 build.
I hear that reason all the time but I don’t believe that it’s the real reason the majority of people choose the v8. I’m pretty sure most pick the v8 because the stigma of owning a v6 truck. That being said I’d pick a v8 because of the simplicity of the power train. Boost is hard on components and expensive to replace. I personally know 2 people that have had ecoboost engines or turbos blow up on a 5 and 7 yo trucks. Makes me question what they are going to be like to fix in 15-20 years. If decide I need the extra power there’s plenty of supercharger options down the line.
Your just mad because your truck sounds like a high schoolers Honda Civic with your maxed out , made of glass turbos
@@ParabellumMotivation You're hilarious.
The V8 is a $300 option in Canada. I currently have a 22 F150 V8 and love it. Better fuel economy than any 3.5 owners i have talked to.
So the 5.0 is made in Canada, shipped to the US to be put in the truck. Then the whole truck is shipped to Canada with a $300 up charge?🤨
@@howardriggins4010 according to kogod 2022 American made index all f 150 engines are usa produced
@@nadermilite5652 not 5.0 made in Windsor.
@@howardriggins4010 the index says that even the the 5.0 is us produced for 2022 year model though idk about 2023 but I'm sure it's still the same, it's says that all the f 150 engines and transmissions are us produced except for the transmission of the 3.5l.
@@nadermilite5652 The information is wrong. I work for Ford and as far as transmissions are concerned I work for the transmission plant that makes transmissions for F150, bronco, explorer, edges, transit connect vans Maverick, escape, ranger and a few overseas vehicles. Sharonville Ohio makes 3.5 l trans for expedition and transit van as well as super duty.
For me the quieter the better. I test drove both and truly prefer the Ecoboost. You can feel the difference right away.
Agreed !
It all depends on the person. If your looking for longevity, then the v8 is the way to go. I don’t keep vehicles long enough to really take that into consideration.
Two things. The Tremor doesn't come w/ the max tow pckg, hence less towing capability. Next, the people who claim the 5.0 is "more reliable" really have more ideology than facts. The 3.5l eco gets it done at MUCH lower rpm than the v8: lower rpm = less stress. Plus the turbos haven't been the problem on ecos. The early problems were timing chains and direct injection. Ford fixed both issues by adding dual timing chains and adding port injection. Change your oil and air filter and the 3.5l is amazing.
What years are safe now then for 3.5 eco for tremor and raptors? All I’ve heard are horror stories from mechanics on how bad eco boosts are .
Can’t get a 23 Tremor with the max payload package, right?
V8 for longevity, lower RPM and no turbos.
I'm a Coyote fan and that's what's in my '18 F-150 but to be honest the 3.5L's torque peak is at a lower RPM than that of the 5.0L. However, the 3.73:1 axle ratio in my truck and in the Tremor is the best way to go with the Coyote because it keeps it in the power range better than say a 3.31:1 gear ratio would. My truck tows my loaded '18 box trailer just fine and isn't under boost (since it doesn't have any) all the time while doing so.
V8 all the way!
V8 no doubt but good luck getting one 3.5 get built and shipped first
LIFE IS GREAT WITH A V8
What about long term reliability. Will the turbo v6 last 200k miles trouble free with regular maintenance?
With regular maintenance, the ecoboost does last like that. I have 2 friends with the eco in their f150s, one of them is right around 210k miles. Other than a water pump at 160k, it’s been regular maintenance and that’s it.
show the ambient light options on the tremor please
will do!
the eco boost is maxwd with two turbo’s. if you added two turbos to the 5.0 it would destroy it hands down or a super charger. eco boost will fail in many areas later down the line compared to the v8
And how much will that cost you
Coyote no question.
4-5 MPG more than the coyote? I don’t think so, and when towing I think you’ll find the coyote gets better,
I have the 2022 with the 3.5, horrible fuel mileage compared to the 3.5 in the other models with the 3:31 gears !
Coyote all the way
V8 or different truck
V8! PERIOD.
5.0/All-Day-Long
5.0
Currently own a 21’ gmc at4 3.0 duramax. Love it but long term reliability is a concern of mine so I’ve been looking into Toyota Tacoma or a ford 150. Own a mustang 14’ with the 5.0 and love it. No issues whatsoever from the coyote engine
Why is it a concern
Question ? Does the 2023 F150 5.0 V8 have the exact same engine as the 2018,2019,2020,2021,2022 F150 V8’s ??? 🤔
Very similar engine with some changes internally to make it slightly more powerful.
'18 thru '20 have the Gen 3 Coyote. '21 and up have the Gen 4 with the main differences being cylinder deactivation and a belt driven oil pump on the Gen 4. The old gear driven oil pump was the weak link in the earlier Coyotes on high horsepower applications. In other words, if you want to add a supercharger the Gen 4 is the way to go unless you want to replace the gear driven oil pump on the earlier engines with an aftermarket billet unit. Cylinder deactivation can also be defeated on the Gen 4. Both Ford Performance and Roush offer supercharger kits for the Gen 4 Coyote with a 3/36 warranty and a minimum 300 hp increase.
The V6 beats it in HP and torque , and gas mileage
5.0 has better exhaust note, 3.5 is better at literally everythign else... fuel economy, power, aftermarket tuning, towing.
It's hard to beat a 3.5L these days!
Well to be fair here ford could throw a single or twin turbo the 5.0 but they won't because they've put so much r and d into the 3.5 they'd rather try to sell you on the 6 cylinder.
Interested in the payload difference between both Tremors!
Will cover!
@@huntauto ??
If you want a louder truck install an big exhaust system so your neighbors can quietly hate you
V8 all day long - lower RPM's equals more relaxing drive
on fords website: 3.5L produces 400hp@6krpm 500#torq@3100rpm, V8 400@6K, 410#@4250, Am I reading this wrong but same rpm for HP and higher for torq with V8???
Man i coast all day in my 5.0. Its such a nice ride with amazing sound
U go with the v8 because it sounds better than the v6 and u go with the v6 to have better MPG
I would be happy with either engine. The 5.0 is better for modding though
Lots of good aftermarket options to tune the 5.0
Modding to what level though? The turbos are always better for real world modding. A simply piggyback tuner can give the 3.5 600hp. Perhaps if you are going for over 1000hp the 5.0 would be the best option.
@@stevew145 yes I’m talking 1000+ even though the eco probably could do it, the 5.0 would be much easier.
If one drives through mountainous areas like most of British Columbia for example, you will want that instant power & torque the 3.5L produces!!! A V8 just can't match that without a supercharger, period.
Which one is better for Alberta winters ?
EcoBoost get maybe 1-2mpg better. Trust me I have one.
Currently looking at tremors...
Currently own an expedition 3.5...
I like the V8 however they now have cylinder shut down and every manufacturer the uses this has some form of internal issues. Too early to tell on Ford's version but I won't hold my breath. Side note for me is, I will tune it and you're not getting anywhere close to the eco until you bolt a blower on that V8.
Although I hate the sound of the V6 the V8 just can't match the Eco.
Always wanted a Ecoboost version of the coyote but we all know that's never happening.
Last truck was an 2018 roush F150 not as impressive as you'd think. Plus once I started having issues. The dealer and Roush just kept playing the blame game. After that I'll never buy anything like that again.
On paper the 3.5 is a better truck engine. In the long run, a 5.0 may last longer being N/A, but all modern engines aren't built to last like our dad's trucks did.
The engines from 30 years ago made half the power, and would still regularly fail. Maintenance is higher on newer engines regardless what you have. Turbos can last basically the life of the vehicle if you look after it. The double fuel system of the coyote is enough to turn me off from it.
it is a great truck,,,,,,,,IF YOU CAN GET ONE....... Long story. Put $1000 down and placed an order in May of 2023. Got confirmation from Ford that they received my order. Very simple order. Standard package with only 3 add on's. Engine block heater, Power sliding rear window and the available Front-Axle with Torsen Differential. Why not since this is a Tremor. The standard Tremor package was plenty enough for me. Anyways it is now Jan 5, 2024 and still no truck. I was recently told they stopped making the 2023's and I'm SOL.....So I proceeded to look at the 2024 and re price it out. The Turbo V6 is now a $300 option, this was a standard option before. The block heater went from 90 to $190, and the rear sliding window is now standard. All Great. None of this was a show stopper. HOWEVER, you can no longer get the Front-Axle with Torsen Differential unless you purchase the upgraded 402A package which is AN EXTRA $11,000 DOLLARS. I feel a bit screwed over. Its not like they changed the radio options or some other cosmetic interior package. They basically removed an available performance option from a vehicle that should already have it as standard. I contacted FORD company multiple times, multiple case numbers with no satisfaction. My dealer has yet to even make any offers of allowance.....................Deeply Frustrated Any one have thoughts or suggestions ?
Have the ecoboost. It’s boring and sounds like a vacuum cleaner. Trading for a coyote because driving any vehicle has always been about the visceral experience as much as a functional one.
Give me the 3.5 power
Only handles its when you get into the turbos......no sir fuel mileage is not that much better
4-5 MPG lmao
@@na4valve not even ...I've had 2 v8s and both get better than my brother in laws 3.5.......u have to work the 3.5 harder for same performance
@@na4valve I can get 20 plus outta my v8
@@fordtrucks3960 I have a 2023 Crew cab, short bed, 4x4 5.0 truck with 3.73s. Best tank so far for mine is 19.2 on dash and 18 manually checked with mixed city and Highway driving. I believe EPA rating is 1 mpg better for the 3.5 version of the eco boost trim for trim.
@@na4valve yep most I see are mad that they don't get better mpg with that 3.5
who buys a vehicle just for the sound, when you can have more efficiency and more power.
Buy a prius
I drive a lots,, lots mileages, go for 3.5 ecoboost, better mileage and more power, high tech engine.
It's hard to justify 70K for a V6 with turbos and every stock Ecoboost I have ever driven (our family owns one) has some boost lag regardless of what the marketing is trying to sell.
totally, my wife’s explorer moves but there are many times there is a lag when I need the boost. My F150 V8 never does this and the power is immediate. Plus it sounds like a truck.
Eco boost better all around
Not really
Cylinder deactivation no…
They did this comparison on the Tremor forum. They asked what's good about the 5.O, the sound. What about the 3.5 everything else. Most feel for towing, the 3.5 is the obvious choice. Today's 5.O isn't like they used to be. I have a 22 Tremor and very happy with the 3.5. With the radio on, I can't hear the engine sound anyway.
Great points!
Great observations. I dont buy a truck for sound, I buy it for performance. Either engine will do the job well. Just a preference in what you like. I personally dont care about engine sound. I drive in the mountains for hunting a lot and I kind of like the truck being quieter anyway. Just my preference.
😮decisions decisions, I guess 51 percent eco boost 49 percent 5.0. I dunno I’d be happy with either.
The engine is my radio. Real drivers listen to their vehicles and not their stereos.
Real men eat bowls of nails for breakfast
Ecoboost.
Who buys a truck to hear the motor. If you want to play speed racer get a mustang. If you want a truck get the 3.5. It’s a silly argument
Isn't the 5.0 more reliable?
Highly doubt the 3.5 gets 4-5 mpg better. Maybe 1-2 but that’s about it
Great point, the mileage will depend on the driving habits.
I had a 5.0 and a 3.5. I was getting 4-5 mpg more than the 3.5 with the 5.0.
🐺 all day baby. Ecoboost is a Honda Civic with a truck body