Why Guthrie Govan Went Digital | The Aristocrats Rig Rundown Trailer
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The flashy, fluent, and musical shredmeister details his experiment with a fully-digital rig in a live rock band.
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Was this taken as a DI (or direct output even) from the pedal? It sounds really dry
We took an XLR straight out FM9
@@premierguitar Ahh that will explain it. No idea what it was like in person but I imagine it would have sounded a little more natural if you mic'ed it instead as dry patches are made to incorporate room noise but you would probably emulate that on direct patches for recording otherwise it sounds a little ... unnatural.
A wizard is never all analog or digital; he plays precisely what he needs to.
Well stated Doc. To choose one or the other would limit creativity.
Myself, for the last 46 years of playing I've been a analog-guy, that said, I'm totally open to these newer digital rigs.
My only complaint, I've been playing through the same Fender Twin Reverb I purchased new back in 1976, I just can't imagine these modern processors lasting that long without totally failing. Again, that just goes to my age and mind-set, newer products are not designed to last very long as regular updating of equipment is now the norm. Phones, computers and even vehicles are no longer designed to last very long as they'll be left behind due to technology advancements.
And that is my crux, I have a difficult time spending what some would consider a significant investment for a product designed to be replaced within 5 to 10 years.
All that being said, the flexibility and creative possibilities are amazing, not to mention that Twin Reverb of mine isn't getting any lighter to carry!
Nice Gandalf joke.
@@TheCyberMantis Indeed yes.
And to be fair, there are worse things to be called than Gandalf. Of course, there is Gandalf the Gray and Gandalf the White! LOL To continue this, if Gandalf played guitar he would be fortunate to play as well as Mr. Govan.
It’s just sent to him by the gods and he makes do
Great comment
The fact Guthrie played the bagpipes in Dune with his guitar is absolutely mind-blowing for me...that was one of my favorite scenes in the movie, mainly because of the epic score
What scene is it actually?
@@dimi409 I suppose the one when the Atreides family lands on Arrakis for the first time with their huge ships
@@dimi409 when they arrive to Arakis and Josh Brolin and his army walk outside the ship
@@anubisrocker Ok, amazing stuff!
A mind blower from a wizard guitarist.
01:17 It’s rare to see Guthrie speaking proudly about himself.
He seems really proud to be working with Hans Zimmer on these film scores :)
Hans Zimmer couldn’t have chosen a better musician to work with.
I've never heard of him speak out of context.
I think he was just preluding the conversation with the fact that he was able to do those sound effect with a digital fx.
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I’ve seen people with huge set ups do nothing, and then there’s Guthrie whom will blow your mind with that pedalboard and couple of guitars. The Aristocrats show was worth every penny.
But what's inside a fm9 is bigger than any huge setup...
The company that makes that pedalboard "Fractal Audio" makes the best sounding equipment in the industry. That's why all the big guys use it. It sounds amazing and you don't have to lug a bunch of heavy ass tube amps and cabs around. In-turn it saves you money, time and you get the same exact sound at every gig. What else could a person want? :)
@@Funny-bf8xf Pretty sure the big guys use Helix and Quad cortex as much though. They all sound great
Fractal isn't just some kids toy...they produce the best modellers on the planet. Plus a lot of big name guitar players are using modellers and plug ins these days
*who
Guthrie can play thru literally ANYTHING and sound amazing.
the greatest living guitarist!
Yup. He can connect into a concrete wall and tear it up!
No way. He sounds the worst he has ever sounded imo with this . He needs to go back to amps and pedals . He doesn’t even come close to sounding the same imo
@@peezymeds1580 Maybe you're forgetting that on stage, even real amps and cabs are mic'd into the P.A. And this is what the audience hears-- a mic'd amp and cab. Not the same. And yet it still sounds great.
Also, anyone can play though a FM3, FM9 or Axe FX II and sound amazing. They pretty much play themselves.
So So SO glad Guthrie is back on social media. He's the only guitarist, other than Robert Fripp, who made me want to practice. Guthrie, you are guitar!
You should just want to practice. ThT is when you're "in tune" with the universe.
Guthrie Govan is a musician which has a marvelous intellect, well spoken and when he touches the guitar; the angels sings.
A truly fantastic guitarist. A technical master whose virtuoso skills don't drown out the simple beauty of music.
exactly, he's pretty much perfect in that sense
Guthrie’s own Gandalf comment is hilarious considering he IS the grand wizard of the fretboard. Dude can sound like and play anything he wants. Truly one of the most amazing musicians of modern time.
We got a few wizards out there. Guthrie, Petrucci, Romeo, Loomis, Kiko.... etc.
@@TheCyberMantis absolutely agree
@@TheCyberMantis Vai, Satriani, Henson, Abasi, Asato ❤️
@@TheCyberMantis James, Timmons, Richardson, Syn, Malmsteen 😉
@@TheCyberMantis Ron "bumblefoot" Thal
I've been building tube amps since the 80s so I am old school. But I have to admit, I absolutely love my Headrush. I think we can have both.
Amazing to hear an old school tube guy compliment the digital approach with the Headrush. Good on you for your objectivity!
The timing of this Rundown couldn’t be better, just the other day I’d just been Googling what rig Guthrie had been running on this latest run of Aristocrats shows after spotting there was no traditional guitar cab behind him.
Guthrie could play anything and make it sound incredible but the dichotomy of his modern fully digital and compact setup on one side of the stage and Bryan’s utterly old school mega stack of doom is pretty cool!
I used to be opposed to digital modelers until someone reframed my thinking on them. They’re not supposed to sound like a live rig; they’re supposed to sound like a mic’d up rig through your monitors. That being said, digital is so versatile and simple, it really makes sense for any situation where you’re playing through a decent sound system.
I'm pretty sure the FM3 has separate outputs for you to send to FOH and your amp simultaneously with the cab+power amp turned off on one of them. So it can do either or both if you prefer that.
@@plumbummusic2051 It does, and i use it that way.
Time to step up the game for Rig Rundowns when modelers are involved.
For example, an AxeFx can be (and often is) the whole artist's rig, similarly to this case.
Even though it is contained in a single unit, conceptually it is still a signal out of a guitar and into a rig made of pedals, amps, cabs, microphones, just like a real one.
Artist : "I'm using an AxeFx (or any other modeler)"
PG:
Q1 "what amps/models are you using, what for?"
Q2 "Are you trying to reproduce the rigs/tones used on X album or do you have a different approach?"
Q3 "Stock IR cabs, Third party, custom made by yourself, what cabs and speakers?"
Q4 "For rhythm/lead/clean work, do you switch patches/amps or keep the same one but turn on/off pedals, boosters etc, or do you use mainly your guitar volume to control saturation?"
Pretty much the same as a physical rig.
Considering how much time Guthrie spent toying with this unit during lockdown, his unique and varied experience, the way he plays, and how articulate he is when explaining what he does, this could have been a goldmine of information (and also huge advertisement for Fractal Audio :D ).
I played a modeler straight to PA with a symphony in Puerto Rico
... and what Guthrie says about the sound guys and stage volume is bang on. You just have to remember to use the high and low cuts otherwise you're going to get a lot of foul looks from the sound police. The hardest part of the gig was knowing full well that what I was hearing through my in ears was NOT what the audience was hearing. That was a little alienating, but if you're a "pro", you'll ride it out and concentrate on playing the right notes with the right picking dynamics. That's what really matters.
I wouldn't have predicted Guthrie working with Hans Zimmer as an outcome, but it just feels correct. They do amazing work together!
Just got back from Vai Academy and went to 3 of Guthrie’s masterclasses! He is the man! Such a good dude and shared everything about his tone, technique, approach to improvising, etc. His jam with Steve was the highlight of this years Vai Academy imo. Definitely considering getting an FM9 now. Thanks for sharing this.
Any videos of this 🤔
One pedalboard to rule them all!
😁 Very good.
@@markknight6445 absolute best guitarist on earth!!!! and middle earth!!!
@@p8emusic398 On fire 😆👏🏼 Guthrie The White would appreciate that.
@@markknight6445 Nice!! sincerely one of my fav players, even if there is some sort of sorcery involved!
@@p8emusic398 😄I could not agree more. He seems like a very humble and nice guy too.
He's not precious.
THAT WAS HIM doing the bagpipes thing on Dune?!?!? Amazing! Loved that piece.
No matter how many times you hear it, it never gets old. It's the player 1st. then the gear.
So many guitarist think they sound great by letting you know what vintage pedals they got but you have to be able to play, then play well to know the sound you want in your head.
You watch everyone switch to digital now that Guthrie's done it. 😆
Well to be fair, Fractal already is used in countless Arena and Stadium rigs around the world (Metallica, Deff Leppard, Journey). It's hard to beat honestly. Every amp and effect in the world at your disposal, and they are 100% consistent in sound nightly with zero maintenance. And for small tours like the Aristocrats, you can't top the convenience of being able to carry your whole guitar rig around in a backpack. Especially when most of their gigs are fly-in one nighter's or single bus tours that are hitting smaller venues.
As if it wasn't already hard enough to get an FM9. Now we for sure won't ever be able to get one.
@@TheCyberMantis Meh, just an Axe-FX 3 and an FC-12. That's what I did. Wouldn't trade it for the world. :)
@@brianjones8432 I will wait for the FM9.
But that was never mentioned in this video.. And i've never heard anyone try and elevate their guitar playing stature by boasting about pedals either. Literally your whole comment is based on an idea you have in your head, and not on reality...
My admiration for this wonderful human being is always growing. I love listening to him open his world of perception to us through his eloquently crafted words and compositions. What lucky souls we are to live concurrently with such a marvel!
Glad to hear him say how HAPPY he his with his current rig. At the end of the day that’s what this is about right?
And this is gonna be the future of rig rundows :D
woah. he's the bagpipes?! mind blown.
Wow, the stage is so clean.
ultimate respect for guthrie work and humbleness. love how he dedicates to every piece of his craft.
I think his open minded approach is awesome. Amazing player!!
Guthrie Govan is such gentleman!!
There's a violinist featured on the new album Duck, and for live shows he's been playing her parts using a modeled something that sounds like violin and it's so incredibly cool.
I finally got me a Helix about 6 months ago. At first it's mind numbing all the choices and options you have at your feet. But once you get the hang of it and get comfortable, there's no going back. And this isn't some multi-effects board like a Pod or anything you ever had. These are studio quality models. The sounds are stunning. I took 34 pedals to my local Guitar Center and sold them ALL. I only have the Boss TU 3 left.
I got a Helix a while back too. The thing I love about it, is the intuitive interface. You can use it without having to read the manual every 5 minutes.
@@zedcarr6128 Exactly. At first I was like "holy shit, I will NEVER understand this thing" and 2 weeks later I am flying around, creating scenes, snapshots, etc. like I made the thing.
Friggin sellout
Yes! In my case I have a Fractal and an Eventide, which, between the ,2 give me an entire galaxy of sounds. Consequently, I only have a few effects pedals-- ones that are very unique that the Fractal and Eventide don't do.
@@stevedrake360 Uh, I'm curious. What are those few effect pedals that Fractal and Eventide can't do. And are you talking about the kinda old Eventide H9 Max?
This interviewer sounds like he couldn't care less. Which is sad because of how utterly incredible Guthrie Govan is and how much he can share
I noticed that as well. Huge scandal.
This interview seems really rushed. Don't know if it's because some time constraints or if the interviewer just couldn't care less...
@@heavydiscotrip4846 Yes indeed, and i dont like it. Guthrie is such a giving person besides his brilliant playing.
Guthrie is the Chuck Norris of guitarists 🤘
Loving the hair! Makes the playing sound even more magical!
Awesome! Thanks for interviewing him!
I would love to see a segment from Guthrie about how he programmed his amp sounds. Things sound killer here and he always has a solid take on dialing shit in
Right? To me it looks like he really spends a lot of time playing and creating patches
As a guy who just plays casual guitar, I sold all my analogue gear and went with a Line 6 Helix Floor, never been happier with the sounds I get.
The more techical and busy the the playing, the less important the tone is, so it's not surprised that so many technical players are going this way.
It has nothing to do with how busy or technical the music is. It's all just a matter of how good the Amp modeling is now. And Fractal has nailed it. Guys like Neil schon from Journey, Phil Collin and Viv from Deff Leppard are all using essentially this same rig in arenas and stadiums as well. You can't beat being able to carry around this kind of versatility in tone, and you can't match the consistency with tube amps.
Guthrie is such a treat, he even knows about the Gandalf jokes. Legend.
EXCELLENT - Finally something new from the best guitarist on planet earth!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guthrie Govan is a very slim guy, isn't he...?
I really hope he is eating and drinking enough.
CHEERS.
I was one of the lucky ones and received my invite early on! All I can say is for those that are still waiting it won't be in vain especially now that you guys will be getting a little extra HP under the hood!
Lord of the Strings! 🧙♂️
So did he switch to digital before or after battling the Balrog?
After, I imagine, when he became Guthrie The White
During
Possibly the only thing I could have heard today that would make me think I ought to check out the Dune reboot was learning the GG worked on the soundtrack.
I’m an old dude who has been doing the tube amp/conventional pedalboard thing for decades. I read up on, and see the demos of these digital units all the time, and I know that the tide is turning. I have often tinkered with the idea of getting one of these units to try out, but being an old dude I am intimidated by the technology ie: menus, programming and whatnot. I also find myself “gig less” right now so……..
But I was recently down in Nashville and I saw a lot of bands. Most of the guitar players I saw had one of these types of units and was going direct. And in THAT environment I totally get it. Humping gear up and down Broadway, through crowds, upstairs, quick set up and breakdown, maybe a couple of times a day…..it makes sense. If I was doing that drill on a regular basis, I’d probably have one too. But having said that, I DID see a small handful of players with the conventional amp/pedalboard set up and u you can just hear and feel the difference. Everyone in the venues were all still enjoying the music and having a great time so it’s all relative. I’d still like to try one someday.
I went all Boss Katana and no pedals now! Just sat down with laptop and programmed some settings been great no patch cables extra power supplies or batteries!
Yeah……the Katana is another one I’ve eyed up. That one I at least was able to tinker around with at a local guitar shop. Sounded good and looks simple enough to navigate.
The Fractal stuff really is a cut above the rest. I highly recommend it. The feeling of moving air on stage can still be replicated in many ways, never mind the simple addition of a great set of ears, but to have the ability to carry around that much variety in a backpack now is kind of unbeatable. To each his/her own, but the years of having to drag around a heavy and finicky tube amp or half/full stack are thankfully behind us.
I miss this content with Guthrie so much. Love It!
Zimmer and Govan.... _chef’s kiss_
i HAD NO IDEA HE SOUNDED LIKE THAT WHEN HE TALKS!! trippy.. i love this cat sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much
I’ve owned a high end modeler for many years but keep it in my studio. I switched to a Headrush Gigboard for gigs and it makes everything much easier. The sounds are more than good enough and setup is easy. I was spending too much time switching programs while performing. The audience doesn’t care about the gear. If you’re playing blues then a tube amp is perfect but if you’re playing a variety of styles a modeler will open up new sonic opportunities.
Hey folks just attended a live show. Yes if anyone can make the Fractal work it is Guthrie however I noticed and again take this with a grain of salt, his solos during many instances were piercing my ears something I never experienced with his amp rig. Still sounded great and for many other things. Not gonna lie I’m an amp guy but the fractal really did serve his purpose for the aristocrats and I’m sure it can do way more. Less tap dancing for Guthrie for sure. As always this man is a gentleman, and one of the best guitarists right now. All in all the show was amazing!
Just by listening to him talk, it's better than most guitar solos tone. This man has soothing voice. He should narrate a documentary film.
Both Sounds incredible good. That's it.
I stood right in front of Guthrie at the Phoenix, AZ show and he sounded great! The rig is simple and compact and the tones he used sounded Great!
Oh yes!!!! Amazing sound from an amazing guitarist!!
The humanity need more videos from this genius, more lessons , music and interviews for the future generations!!
I like the "warm sloshing milk" before the screaming rock....
He is like Gandalf of guitar, a true wizard
Those few chorus chords at the end were awesome
too short, i want more sound demos, that rig sounded great from the bit i heard!
Nobody can beat this guy, NOBODY.
I’m just getting into this guy and he just seems brilliant.
Sat in front of the board in Nashville, nothing but noise and mud. Not what I expected.
... And new jeans as well. Crazy times. 😱
Guthrie is how I think a musician should be. Takes his craft but not himself seriously. Guy is really a phenomenon. Love the aristocrats such mind numbing great musicians. I can listen to this guy talk for hours....& I’m a bass player lol.
New title:
The Last Rig Rundown Ever Made
As good as his playing is, he's become a great personality more than ever. I think he needs to do more 'podcasts & talkshows' based around guitar but with no guitar in his hands. He is hilarious!
Guthrie's actually film credited in both Dune and Top Gun: Maverick working in conjunction with Hans Zimmer. Well deserved!!
Just had conformation that my FM9 will be ready to despatch in September - soooo excited. FM3 now sold and currently using a POD-GO for the time being, which is to be fair a cracking unit. Got some real cool tones out of it :)
He says something that basically can apply to everything. “Whatever is right for the situation.” Let the situation tell us what we need, not politics.
I’m gonna need more of this…
Thank you for the video Sir
My mind has been absolutely blown finding out that epic bagpipe charge in Dune was Guthrie on guitar
What a great, balanced take on digital FX. If it musically gets you where you want to go, have at it. Coming from someone like GG, it's more evidence digital guitar FX work in the context of the desired end result.
I was just listening to this while loading the dishwasher and realized that Guthrie sounds just like Derek Smalls 😁. Similar philosophy on life and music as well!
dude huge props to /guthrie for working with Hans zimmer that sound design stuff is no joke and takes a huge amount of effort! and he's a LEGEND at it! Hans zimmer :)
Wooooowww... Guthrie... On the top 3 guitarist of the history of modern music.... His deserve more publicity.
If you guys haven’t, you should also get Bryan Beller’s rig rundown for the Aristocrats gigs as well. His pedalboards are huge, the live tone is insane, and he’s got many bells and whistles on there this time around. If you do, please get some amazing mics for it. The amount of frequencies he covers is immense and I’ve never hear a single recording do his live sound justice.
I finally got a line 6 pod go to simplify. I have two half stack tube amps in stereo with a stereo pedal rack with a midi foot controller. I soldered all the cables and wired it up myself. To jam I have to switch on the rack, switch on rack units, pull out two drawers and turn on pedals, toggle the midi controller to another preset and back to initialize all the hardware midi, switch on amp 1, switch on amp 2, again toggle presets to initialize the amp head midi, switch amp 1 off standby, switch amp 2 off standby... then I'm ready to jam and put hours on the tubes that eventually have to be replaced. The Pod Go is a single switch to turn it on, because it's plugged into a powered 12" speaker that is always on. It sounds great, my only gripe is I can't get feedback out of it like a real amp. But feedback swell is something I only do for like one song
A total genius!!!
I can listen to him for hours !
A living legend.
Sounds incredible
We need Arquetype Govan!! Jejeje
Legendary .
Guthrie is so cool He oozes awesomeness and is out there searching for sounds...can't wait to watch the full rundown right after this!
Waaaw he even plays on the Zimmer Dune OST... OK now my mind is absolutely blown. 💯 This guy....
-Insert Universe meme
Gandalf sounds good Guthrie. Not just for your hair, but because you are truly a wizard
A wizard shreds precisely when he means to!
A true musician, gentleman, and a scholar!
I was wondering why I loved the music from Dune so much
A lot of cats are doing this now and, from what I've heard, they are getting great results! Whatever is easier.
Reminds of my old friend and guitarist Eric, kinda, he rocked, miss him, but hey now there’s Gran Hechicero
Gotta love Guthrie!!! 🎸
In the band I switched to digital (HELIX) just because of simplicity..I mean..you walk on stage, place the Helix, use one cable for the FOH, plug your guitar...and you are good to go...no cab, amp board, cable dance..setup takes 2 Minutes
I love my Helix.And I have always been into tube amps.But they stay at home and I save my energy.
@@StratsRUs yeah my wall of amps stays safe in my studio..lol. And if the Helix is set up correctly it just sounds easily 98% like the "real deal"
My only worry is being able to hear myself. I always feel I have to have a cab onstage
@@Slears True.Do you find that it is because of your tube amps, that your ears can hone in on the sound you 'design' ? I think it helps to have played tube amps for this reason.Ear Training.Thank you.👍
@@jimgillis8522 sometimes I use an active FRFR Monitor...just for myself...depends on the monitor cabs already on stage.
Outstanding player
Axe FX going to revisited now for sure
The rumor says the guy is still standing there since then waiting for the strange things Guthrie promised to demonstrate
He’ll be back
Been on the waitlist for the FM-9 for about 5 months now! Hopefully within another year....
Ah, the FM 9. Glad he likes it. I'm still on the waiting list with absolutely zero idea of when I can actually get one.
I own an AXE FX III. NOW, if I can just play like Guthrie. Should take me a month or so. 🙂 BTW, please excuse my profound ignorance, but I was unaware of Guthrie until a few weeks ago. Rick Beato brought me here. That is why Rick is so important, as he constantly exposes his viewers to new ideas, new people, and teaches, all at the same time.