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- Taking a look at the brand new Walther PDP Compact and comparing it to the tried and true H&K VP9sk. Shout out to Target shooting solutions for letting me use the range for this video!
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Trying to chose between a pdp and vp9 is like trying to pick between a pretty blonde and a pretty brunette. Just give me both.
Pick the one with better friends and family aka aftermarket support. There is so much more for HK out there.
@@Dara-ih6jq I already have a vp9 tactical. I want the pdp too. So im getting it. They are both sexy Gotta have the pdp too.
@@a.d.c7941 Oh, you are one of those guys who buys pistols for entertainment & fooling around. So what does it matter which firearm you buy you are not like serious on it's use. If you were buying a pistol for silly things like self-defense or to run errands in a dangerous World the choice would be logical & automatic.
Notice: I did not mention a gun to buy. Why is that *SDW?*
@@sweetcostarica Well, first of all, u know nothing about me. Secondly, what the fuck r u talking about. And thirdly, I will stick to my original message and say, I would have both. Which I do!! And just to set u straight, I have guns for both self defense and pleasure alike. Thank you very much.
what i like about the hk is the testing they put it through n quality they put into it for the purpose it was made for
Fast forward to September 2022. For my brand new PDP 5", I got my optics plate, holster, mags & red dot... All in "under" a week after purchasing it. No issues getting anything that I want for this fantastic pistol!
My pdp compact 5 inch slide came in last week and I just got back from the range today. Ive noticed the sights on the VP9 feels higher than the sights on the PDP. The trigger on the PDP feels it has less distance pull than the VP9. The VP9's grip is smooth being less aggressive and PDP's grip is aggressive but to where its about to enough to make the shooter feel locked in. Both are great! VP9 will be my range pistol & the PDP will now be my everyday carry.
the pdp needs to have a paddle release option
Man!!! I've been looking for an M1 and it's been hard enough already
you can put a pdp barrel and slide on a ppq
ABSOLUTELY STUNNING FIREARMS 🔥🇺🇸🔥
Bought mine today. This pistol causing quite the stir!
Sure is!! I want one too, but I might wait a bit and see what the aftermarket does
I have the compact and full size. Bought them on Saturday. Had the plates in my hand on Thursday. No big deal at all.
Which one do you prefer and why?
I get it and it’s good they have a quick turn around. My point also is that at this time you can’t just buy any additional Plates.
Took five days for my plate, and you can find other sizes for different optics, online. C&H Precision makes great ones. The Walther shoots like a bullseye gun, and is the most accurate I've ever shot, and I own many, including HK's
Excellent review
Good comparison.
I have both guns and both are great. Yes, Walther should have included multiple mounting plates in the box, but from time of order to the door it took approximately 12 days...so, not to long of a wait. Out of the box my PDP trigger pulled at 3 lbs. 8 oz. almost every pull on my Lyman trigger gauge and the VP9 was about 4 lbs. 12 oz. both triggers are very nice but I have to give it to the PDP. Ergos are amazing on both guns and both are great shooting guns. You really can't go wrong with either pistol but when it's all said and done I'll take the PDP, just feels a little better in my hands, better trigger and a hundred or more dollars cheaper. It's all really personal preference, I recommend holding and if you can shooting both pistols, you won't be disappointed with either of them.
Great review - if they both had slide cut , which would you choose
Love my VP9SK! It is the most accurate handgun I own. I am currently looking for a PDP. Haven’t decided between compact and full size yet. Haven’t got to handle one yet as they haven’t shown up in any gun shops or BassPro in my area.
The PDP compact is the size of a full-sized VP9 but only holds 15 rounds compared to 17 in the HK. It would be a dealbreaker for me!
I have a VP9sk and love it, looking for a VP9 too. I’d consider the PDP if they made a true subcompact that holds 12 rounds.
Dude, don't buy your weapons from an idiotic "outdoor" emporium, buy direct from the manufacturer, more often than not, it's cheaper.
Plus, places like BPS and Cabella's have "staff" that are some of the most ignorant people when it comes to guns, at that point you might as well take your chances at Walmart.
@@patrickkelly5009 You can’t buy them direct from Walther? Snagged a 4” FS and it’s a tack driver for sure!!
The 13rd mags for the Hk are what it should’ve shipped with from the factory. My flush and pinky mags haven’t seen the light of day since I started running the 13 rounders.
They have new 12 and 15 round magazines that replace the 10 and 13 round magazines.
Have both, love both, if I had to sell one, I don't think I could choose... thank goodness I don't have to.
I have too much invested in vp9 and vp9sk. The PDP looks interesting though. I wish they had a paddle mag release for it, but I would adjust. Like all pistols I tell people to try each at a range several trips even with ammo at high prices.
I've shot several examples of both the Walter and HK . I went with the HK.
Which one shoots better, less felt recoil
Walther makes the best striker fired guns in my opinion. Call me nostalgic, but I like HK’s hammer fired guns over their VP series even though HK hammer fired triggers in most cases leaves a lot to be desired. I have all the major brands in striker fired handguns and the ppq/pdp is cream of the crop.
I know what you mean. I've shot the VP9 and as great as that is, I just like how my P30 shoots better. Same with my old P2000sk vs the VP9sk.
Yeah I loved the feel of the vp9sk but went p365. With the current market I am hoping to sell my 365 for not much of a loss. Always been more of a hammer guy though
@@dougberk919 I'll buy the p365 from ya
Are you saying it is better than G Lock 17??
just bought my pdp today
I have a PDP Compact on order. For me personally, the vp9 series was kind of a letdown. I had an early vp9 that came out of battery very easily, the trigger had a lot of creep before the break, and it also felt more cheaply made then my beloved P30 LEM. Mac has videos that bring the reliability of the vp9 into question. I ended up selling it, and I do not miss it. It was the only H&K I've ever owned that I was disappointed with
This just in: Walther now has a PDP-F in 3.5". That might make a difference and may give another nod to the Walther over the VP9SK. Lastly, just to throw a wrench into the works, the Sig X-Macro with 17rds is smaller and more concealable than either of these.
Got my plate in 3 days...
People just want to complain and try to sell HK shit
@@zaynemikita6897 not at all. It’s good they have a good turn around time. Still should have offered them on the sight to purchase at launch
The PDP Compact is the same exact size as a full-sized VP9. 4” barrels and 5.4” height, and 15-17 round capacity. I think that would have been more apples to apples comparison, but that being said I would love to see Walther release a PDP subcompact and HK add an optics ready VP9sk (not counting on it though).
If I’m being really honest, I would kill for HK to make a P365 competitor. I feel like somebody is working on something that competes head on with it in the micro compact category.
You got one of your wishes the next year - SK is coming optics ready now
Very good point about the optic plates. Most or all companies go ahead and mill the slide to multiple optics. With walther they make you use a plate which means the sights can not co witness with the optic. Therefore you have to spend more money to buy suppressor height sights
My holosun 507 co-witness with the factory irons
@@thedayface1 yep
why the full finger extension between trig pulls on the HK?
I'll stick with my two Walther P99 Gen 1's in 9mm but would like to get that Q4 SF !!!!
Good choice Jeff. Love the DA trigger option if needed on the p99
Got my plate in a few days.
where can i get a VP9 lower from
Great comparison! Thanks! I own both the VP9SK and a Walter PDP Compact 4" with 15 Rd mags. I LOVED my VP9SK until I started shooting the PDP. I shoot way tighter groups with the Walther. Granted, I have a Holosun 507C X2 Red dot sight on the Walther PDP. Because I can! and I love it. I got 13 rd Mags for my VP9SK and that gets close to the sane capacity. All in all however, the PDP would be my choice if I could only have one.
Thank you!!!
Yesssir
Walther looks awesome, but still looks more jumpy in the hand, especially back-to-back
It is. The extra weight helps a lot on the SK.
It has a higher bore axis than the VP9, so that’s also a part of the reason. Definitely more recoil vertically.
Come on it's a 9mm
No polymer pistol feels more like quality than H&K pistols... that’s why when people start buying HK the tend to fall in love. They are just a step above the competition in terms of build quality.
I felt that way until I demo the pdp. Very nice.
Being able to fully customize the sk grip is huge for me. Fully ambi too... there's just a lot of extras with sk. But I also have a vp9 so I'm bias asf. Lazy wolf makes redic triggers for HK also.
I know. I tricked out my tactical VP9. Aftermarket game is strong with the VP9 series. Been around longer.
Lol that reset reduction package is only $385. Just buy the Walther and get a great trigger out of the box. ; )
Correct me if I'm wrong, pdp is compact and sk is sub compact
Correct
I have both, but prefer the HK. I love them both but personally prefer the hk
you are crazy that's the best striker fired trigger invented
i own both but to be honest i like the pdp better but its a close one and i looked the better than the vp9
Your point about the optic plate is way off . I have both the HK VP99 Optics ready and the walther it is impossible to find the #2 optics plate for the HK so it’s going down the road . My plate for the walther should be here in a week
The SK isn't exactly a "svelte" pistol, but it's definitely slimmer and shorter than the PDPc. I carry mine with a flush-fit mag base and can just barely get a 4-finger grip on it. But yeah - please HK, offer a SK OR!!
The biggest problem with the sk is it's lacking 2-3 rounds for every magazine it takes, in true hk fashion. The flush fit should hold 12 rounds, pinky extension 13-14, "13 round" mag should be 15-16.
Ets makes a 12 rounds flush fit magazine for it. No excuse for a cheap ass magazine company being able to fix hk's screw up.
There's no videos on the ets 12 round mags for the sk, you should make one and let us know if it sucks.
I have mine optic cut with DPcustom for $80 + shipping..
It’s a brand new gun and you can buy additional plates from Walther directly.....relax. Plates take about a week to get once you fill out your voucher.
No patients at all it was just released
They should be available at launch...
@@MoJohnson58 cool I have a new gun that’s optics ready that I can’t use because it is indeed not optics ready if I can’t get a plate
@@Steve_MP5Yea I understand that it would of been nice if the plates would of already come with gun but in the end it's still free and your still getting it
@@MoJohnson58 I’m not even saying come with the gun. Just have them available to purchase at launch. I’ll take a free plate, but let me buy them. They are not available for purchase fright now.
Personally, I think Walther was smart for the voucher for a specific optic plate. A wk or 2 is not going to kill you plus they are made my CHPWS. I think Walther hit a homerun with the PDP and I own a VP9 and P10c.
I like the gun. I’d buy it and carry it. My gripe is I can’t buy all the plate options at launch. I have to pick 1 plate. Idk about you but I have many different optics and would like the option to try out all of them on the gun to see which I’d prefer to run best.
What Ammo shortage
They have been talking concerns about the opti plates
If you think finding a plate for a VP9 is easy, try finding plate #2 at a reasonable price. I think FN has the best optics system. I do have every size/iteration of the VP9, and curious to put a PDP in my hand just to try it.
Not the most popular option, but I sent my VP9sk to Jagerwerks for slide milling. It’s a better connection to the slide and sits lower, but it’s permanent.
What happened to the HK not firing here that " one time " ? Could it be that the slide didn't lock open ?
Didn’t lock open. It was a range gun that was WELL used and needed a new recoil spring.
@@Steve_MP5 explain why the gun would need a new recoil spring.
Having trouble holding both guns after the trigger pull my guy🤣😂
have them both. both are great pistols. PDP feels lighter than SK. two great triggers far and away better than my stock Sig 365xl, and Shield plus Performance center. 15 rounds plus 1 gets a bit on heavy side for edc. These are about the largest for EDC IMO
Lol the Seth hat got you sub and a like
🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
You don’t need a red/green dot on a cc pistol as their fundamental purpose is rapid response short distance firing. You don’t need to rely on a electronic component.
Walther processed my request for a mounting plate in about a day. You act like it’s gonna take a year LOL
A compliment " Not Bad " holds negativity. You display bias will trying to maintain objectivity. A good compliment is something without the word Bad within it.
He’s tripping (his preference ) but Walther definitely has the better trigger
CHPS is making their plates.
They are not available at the time of filming this. I heard sometime next week.
@@Steve_MP5 yeah I see that. Poor planning. Just another thing to wait for in the industry 🙄🙄
Sure hope they do a better job than they did for a couple of my pistols... nothing but trouble with their aluminum plates.
There is complaints about red dot gonna come off/ fall off with the PDP optic mounting system..I’m still an HK fan boy got both FS vp9 & vp9sk..
The trigger is not bad ??? I don't know what you're comparing the PDP's trigger to !! The PDP trigger is the best out of the box per big name reviewers and just about anybody who shot one.
One of the best. My canik has comparable trigger.
Triggers not bad are u freaking serious tgat trigger is just phenomenal man c-mon already. Lol. In rattling ur cage q little dint take me wring ur entitled to ur own opinion but man thats a hell of a nice trigger bro
The Walther PDP is better in one major point: The *_PDP has the biggest butt_* This Walther PDP is chunky, period. Not for CCW or conceal carry.
👎 no whining allowed about optic plates. Get on with facts, not personal opinions. Stop questioning manufacture reasons for why their product are what they are. I want facts, specs, shooting impression. ✌️☮️ Just ordered VP9SK OD Green, paddles, and NO Mr Magoo optics slide cut. I have 3 PDP's already. One is never enough. Shooting gor sport and relaxing enjoyment ✌️🗽
Trigger is not bad? Pdp trigger is the best trigger on any striker fired handgun. It also better than hk vp9. Overall pdp is better gun than hk vp9.
My p10c cz is best trigger in all my pistols. My vp9 is my best pistol, and now this PDP is equal. All great pistols. I just bought pdp today. Check my videos
@@antilaw9911 I have p10c and pdp trigger is better
@@antilaw9911 I have a P10c and prefer that trigger over my VP9. I also think I like the ergos on my P10c as well. Hopefully you can do a video comparing all three, the P10c, VP9 and PDP. Looks like Walther hit a homerun with the PDP.
@@awokeone7997 I had the same experience as you did. I enjoyed my CZ p10c but found I was more consistent with the vp9.
@@oliverallen5324 honestly I put the P10f slide on the p10c frame and it's the best of both worlds. I took a class with it and love it. Shoot better, smooth and very accurate but I am running the Holosun 509t with chpws plate.
Pdp needs to shrink. It’s to big for cc. For me at least.
The PDP is what it is. It would be wonderful to have conversations with the PDP engineers.
TOO thick for me for sure.
Too much ranting about the optic plate availability
Everybody talks about triggers, which is hilarious , because in a defensive situation you wont notice shit. Everybody talks like they are professional shooters. Fact is you can have the best trigger in the world but if you dont train, youll still shoot like shit.
buy a 2024 honda today and tell me how many parts you can buy for it this second??????????????? anything new has this issue. it has been a year and i can get a lot of options for red dots and who needs something tomorrow i dont mind waiting a week a month whatever it takes to get the plate have men become this weak that they need everything right now.
When 10 shots cost you almost $10 😓
I know right!! 😤
Unless you were smart enough to buy lots and lots of 9mm when it was 16-18 cents/round... some of us have been around the block a couple times before and I called this situation last January when COVID became a word... and prices spiked within two weeks.
@@shinigami1925 I have my stock pile don’t want to shoot it all up. I scored 300 rounds for $100 last week which isn’t bad considering...
@@RepentorPerish77 Agreed, I’ve sure cut back- shooting smarter, less volume, more specific drills, and a lot more dry fire.
Problem is, Walthers have always been so snappy and their customer service is LEGENDARY for being shite