Walther PDP vs HK VP9- Tabletop Comparison

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  • @bruce5168
    @bruce5168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I just got a PDP full size, I already have a Vp9, I have to honestly admit... The Vp9 is now the "second best striker fired trigger" on the market.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Walther really got the trigger right on the PDP. I wish I could blend the two of them together.

    • @bruce5168
      @bruce5168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Gruntreviews the Vp9 is awesome, no doubt, but the PDP just beats it. Unbelievable, and great video bud!!

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bruce5168 thank you for the kind words. We appreciate it!

    • @bruce5168
      @bruce5168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Gruntreviews very welcome!!

    • @roberthendrickson3134
      @roberthendrickson3134 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just got a PDP pro tactical with the high performance trigger from the factory…… suddenly my VP9 is not as good as I thought it was….ordered a Lazy Wolf performance trigger for the VP9….. will see if that helps the notchyness of the VP9

  • @intheknow3431
    @intheknow3431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Your review was good. I happen to have both guns. The Walther is by far a better buy, about a couple hundred $$$. cheaper. The Walther trigger is better and if you're going to wear gloves the Walter has a bigger opening to accommodate the glove. The Walther slide serrations are much better to rack the slide. I purchased the HK years ago and it's been a very good gun but is showing it age. I'm looking for HK to upgrade or bring out a new gun in the near future. Striker fired gun improvements are moving very fast now with new models coming out all the time. I think the quality of these 2 guns are equal so the Walther is a better buy of coarse it a new model for Walther, they did a good job with it.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's a good synopsis. I too hope the VP9 gets a revamp or something new comes out of HK.

    • @awesomedave8484
      @awesomedave8484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My vp9 tactical came with suppressor height sights. I also have the match but I think the ergonomics of hk can’t be beat. My buddy has the pdp and it just felt unfinished.

    • @MrCooper89
      @MrCooper89 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Walthers are fudd guns.

  • @zone3adk872
    @zone3adk872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great vid. I'm new to handguns. Recently bought a VP9 and about to order a PDP. His and hers - sort of anyway, just became empty nesters and replacing kids with guns, LOL.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I've been told guns are a bit less expensive

    • @oceandmike
      @oceandmike 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Guns never borrow your car and forget to put gas in.

    • @lousiffer5289
      @lousiffer5289 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Never too late. Thankfully I got into guns before my kids because the third is on the way, and I don't get to shoot near as much lol

  • @zmanphx
    @zmanphx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I like both of them. I might buy both. Germans make good looking pistols.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Germans definition do build a nice firearm

  • @v.german11b
    @v.german11b 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Both are excellent combat handguns. I like the H&K very much, but my choice is the Walther PDP.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was an HK guy forever, but i've become a lot more open in recent years to other options.

    • @v.german11b
      @v.german11b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Gruntreviews H&K has an outstanding record and notorious quality. I love their firearms. Wouldn't mind to own a VP, maybe one day, but mostly, I am a Walther, CZ and Canik fan 😎

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I love the VP9, just wish it would've gotten more of an update than just an optics cut.

    • @v.german11b
      @v.german11b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Gruntreviews Walther, CZ and Canik, all the way!

  • @RepentorPerish77
    @RepentorPerish77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love my VP9..if I didn't already have the P10C which I also love, Id consider the PDP.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      All three are solid options. It almost makes it hard to choose.

    • @noble6466
      @noble6466 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      P-10C is a really great gun, kinda seems like it flew under the radar though

    • @RepentorPerish77
      @RepentorPerish77 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@noble6466 yeah it does. That’s CZ for you. Not much marketing in the US. And typically unless you’re a gun person, you don’t know about them

    • @JW-vo5gs
      @JW-vo5gs 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How would you rank the 3? I’ve been looking at the CZ P10-c, but found some good deals on the VP9 and PDP

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Vp9, PDP, P10c

  • @Payner2644
    @Payner2644 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Just got the PDP and love it! Had a PPQ M2, which was nice, but not as nice as the PDP!! Besides, HKs are overpriced.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      just about anything out of europe is overpriced, thats the downside to german precision

    • @alexmiller6848
      @alexmiller6848 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've noticed this too, HK is overpriced, as I tend not to buy American made pistols.

  • @bruce5168
    @bruce5168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    And the reset on the PDP is ridiculous!!!! Very very short

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Indeed. Walter did a fantastic job with the trigger

  • @ericguerrero2542
    @ericguerrero2542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Walther compact for the win!!

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the comment!

  • @bruce5168
    @bruce5168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The PDP is surprisingly lite too!!

  • @VincitOmniaVeritas7
    @VincitOmniaVeritas7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great comparison.
    Now that the VP9 tactical comes with a optics cut and 17-rd magazine and the PDP Pro comes with a threaded barrel and tall sights, it should be an easier comparison.
    I have the VP9T (old model) and still didn’t feel the need to upgrade or change to a PDP.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed. It's taken them quite a while, but it's nice to see manufacturers adapting to the industry.

  • @1codygti
    @1codygti ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have 3 PDP love all of them

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll be reviewing the full size pro here in the coming weeks.

  • @bruce5168
    @bruce5168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    And the HK trigger is better then a lot of them out there, but the PDP beats it by a close margin.

  • @tims1415
    @tims1415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My HK Tactical came with three seventeen round magazines. I ordered a twenty-four rounder from HK Parts just for good measure though.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, the new ones are all getting the 17rd.

  • @sixt3denied
    @sixt3denied 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Walther PDP is my next firearm. Just not sure which size to get it in. Thanks for the great video!

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure

    • @wjggmt1180
      @wjggmt1180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Me neither. I suppose I will error on the side of concealment. I have held one, its a real chunky monkey.

    • @sixt3denied
      @sixt3denied 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I bought the 4" compact which is still pretty big. The gun shoots amazingly smooth. Probably the most comfortable well designed grip of any gun out there right now. I absolutely love it. Incredibly accurate with the stock sights. Rear sight is adjustable. My favorite gun to shoot.

    • @wjggmt1180
      @wjggmt1180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sixt3denied I see they make an SD Pro or something---not really sure I would want that threaded nipple coming out of the gun, but I do like the big fat mag well.

    • @sixt3denied
      @sixt3denied 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wjggmt1180 I agree. The big perk is the performance trigger. But the trigger is already so good I personally don't see the need to get the Pro version.

  • @kuningaskolassas4720
    @kuningaskolassas4720 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pretty clear which your preference is.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We all have preferences. I will say the new PDP pro is a huge step up. I may need to do a follow up.

  • @johnneill5960
    @johnneill5960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    lol I just bought both of these toady except I bought the optics cut VP9

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good combo purchase. I've had my vp9 since they came out. May need to upgrade to the OR version at some point.

    • @jasondavis1187
      @jasondavis1187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Where did you get an optical ready Vp9? I’m having trouble finding one !!

    • @johnneill5960
      @johnneill5960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jason Davis I bought them both at Bass Pro here in Branson. I've seen them on Gunbroker though .

    • @jcadvanced
      @jcadvanced 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jasondavis1187 I believe the 2020 models comes optic ready... I bought the VP9 LE which is optic ready, includes 3 mags, and 3 dot tritium night sights.

  • @tylerhaskiell1338
    @tylerhaskiell1338 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LOVE the pdp, my second favorite is my fn 509 mrd.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've review the 509 edge, but have not shot the 509 mrd. I may have to pick one up.

  • @roc5291
    @roc5291 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whenever they do the next James Bond film, I’m hoping they finally ditch the PPK and give him the PDP. I think it would be huge for Walther’s marketing to get that gun in the hands of a character that made their brand huge in the first place.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hadn't thought about that, but that would definitely boost marketing.

  • @dsd-downshiftdave8056
    @dsd-downshiftdave8056 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Best review, covers everything

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for the kind words

  • @MRsolidcolor
    @MRsolidcolor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i have the hkvp9 and i dont think ill ever get rid of it.. really hard to beat it.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vp9 is still a fantastic firearm, just getting a bit dated.

    • @ravidadz2354
      @ravidadz2354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have one and it’s smooth as fuck

    • @jonbarlock848
      @jonbarlock848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here

  • @MRsolidcolor
    @MRsolidcolor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i would like to send my gun to lazy wold and have them set it up.. they are some of the best at it.. i like what they do with the slide lock and triggers... they test and make a great trigger even better... but it dont need anything out of the box.. why i love my hk. glock cant even buy a trigger thats better the the hk.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe lazy wolf is the guy who used to work for gray guns that left to do his own thing.

  • @kuningaskolassas4720
    @kuningaskolassas4720 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It seems strange to be comparing one gun out of the box, to another with several mods added. But you didn't seem to want to give the pdp much of a chance anyway.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's what I had laying around. I will say the new PDP pro is night and day better from the original.

  • @jonbarlock848
    @jonbarlock848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I own tbe VP9 I would love to own the PDP as well!

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That would be a good combo.

  • @MrSheldonjohnson
    @MrSheldonjohnson 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Good content!!!!

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for the kind words

  • @champy1210
    @champy1210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    With an optic on it, you don't need the cocking ears. (And I'm an HK guy.)

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The ears definitely aren't an absolute need, but they are nice on an irons only pistol.

  • @elihollins1
    @elihollins1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great review. 1st question, if you had to pick one pdp or vp9, which would it be? Overall which one do you like more? 2nd question. I hear the pdp is snappy, is it really that bad?

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a tough one. I'd probably go PDP Pro (wasn't out when I made this video. I've got a range review up on the PDP, it is snappier than some. I'll be reviewing the PDP pro this year.

  • @richardmcginty8819
    @richardmcginty8819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How can you do a Fair comparison when the VP9 has aftermarket upgrades? Comparisons should be stock vs stock.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's why I left the trigger comparison out. That and the Magwell are the only changes. But I do agree and generally shoot for stock vs stock.

  • @kotmartnoskin2322
    @kotmartnoskin2322 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have not try PDP yet but I would be really surprised if that mother lover gonna be better than my HK VP9……will see 🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're pretty dang close.

  • @JRWplus3
    @JRWplus3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What are all the upgrades you put on this thing? Do you have a link to all the stuff? I really love the way you built it out. Great look and great functionality.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Truglo TFX sights, hk parts striker and back plate, lobos trigger, Taylor freelance magwell.

  • @Chris09978
    @Chris09978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m curious about walthers barrel for pistol, is it a match grade barrel or a cold hammer forged polygonal

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Polygonal rifling

    • @Chris09978
      @Chris09978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Gruntreviews oh shit that’s really cool, funny how they don’t list it on their website which is weird to me

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's become the standard lately. Button rifling has fallen off a bit in recent years. There's advantages and disadvantages to both.

  • @searcheryea6579
    @searcheryea6579 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do any of these models have any type of safeties?? Looking for first firearm

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  ปีที่แล้ว

      They have several safeties built in, but do not have an external thumb safety.

    • @searcheryea6579
      @searcheryea6579 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Gruntreviews thanks for the reply

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My pleasure

    • @johndeere1951a
      @johndeere1951a 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Look at the CZ P-09 and P-07. They come with decocker levers, and include in the case Safety levers that are easy for you to switch out. Decocker or Safety levers included for a reasonable price.

  • @lizzapaolia959
    @lizzapaolia959 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Both are fantastic pistols. My husband and I have a good size collection of German pistols. I'm a huge fan of the HK, then some days the Walther....
    HK is going to be releasing a new sub compact pistol in 2024. Thank you for sharing your videos 🙏

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for the kind words. I've heard the HK rumors, I'll have to keep my eye out.

    • @johndeere1951a
      @johndeere1951a 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What is your source on H&K coming out with a mini SK .
      Don't regurgitate rumours. 👎

  • @stizz1982
    @stizz1982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would you choose the P30 over the Walther PDP?

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's a tough one. I started shooting USPSA with a p30L. I have a lot of nostalgia for hammer fired actions. That being said, even with a top end trigger job, the stock PDP trigger is better. I like the grip module better on the walther, but I do like the smaller slide on the p30. Price wise, the PDP is a few bucks less and is optics ready.

  • @JaniceFowler-x9d
    @JaniceFowler-x9d 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

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    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for dropping a comment

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for dropping a comment

  • @awokeone7997
    @awokeone7997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is the Lobos trigger on the VP9 really a improvement or should I just keep the stock one?

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's not night and day, but it feels slightly smoother. I've noticed its easier to keep a consistent trigger rhythm with the lobos over stock.

    • @awokeone7997
      @awokeone7997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Gruntreviews what area is the most important would you say?

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@awokeone7997 I used the vp9 primarily for shooting USPSA. The consistency is definitely important for quick follow up shots. I like the fact that lobos retains all of the factory safeties. I would feel confident carrying in a duty pistol or for CCW.

  • @sweetcostarica
    @sweetcostarica 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is a lot of focus today on a "good" trigger. The striker-fired *_Glock inspired_* trigger is neither good nor bad, it is just a different kind of trigger.
    Almost all modern guns have "good" 👍 triggers. So don't worry about them as in a gun fight your adrenaline will make your hands feel like flippers.
    If you practice/train with your gun to _learn_ the trigger you will hit anything well.
    Remember - it is not the gun, it is the man.
    FACT 1: most LEOs practice the minimum with their gun. Just enough to pass qualifications.
    FACT 2: most people shoot 🔫 between 120 to 200 shots a year.
    Think about it 🤔.

    • @ambienceization
      @ambienceization ปีที่แล้ว

      Shut up glock fanboy

    • @sweetcostarica
      @sweetcostarica ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ambienceization You mad bro 😡 ?
      Lo siento, mucho, you got triggered my man *ambienceization.*

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the comment!

  • @robertkarlmann6403
    @robertkarlmann6403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How bout throwing in a Canik?

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'll have to get my hands on one.

  • @marcmeadows6103
    @marcmeadows6103 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How do i get a threaded barrel for my vp9

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Purchase one

  • @wjggmt1180
    @wjggmt1180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey, at least he is not reviewing Glocks. Glocks are made by swamp people, for swamp people.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If glock ever came out with something truly new, I'd review it. It seems all they do is add and remove finger groves and call it new.

    • @jhustler1992
      @jhustler1992 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was never a Glock fan myself for years but I really love the Gen 5 models. Gen 5 far surpasses the previous generation models in my opinion. Especially, when it comes to the grip too.

    • @alexmiller6848
      @alexmiller6848 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's funny that they are on the 5th generation of the same pistol design. If any other handgun company were to make 5 generations of the same pistol people would think they are crazy. The fact is the Glock design even with the 5th generation is basically the same ancient design Gaston came up with in the 80's with no real innovation other than maybe the optic cut.

  • @gutWrench9mm
    @gutWrench9mm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those plastic cocking ears are cool till they fall off

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't experienced that, but it would definitely suck to lose one.

  • @JaniceFowler-x9d
    @JaniceFowler-x9d 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

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    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for dropping a comment

  • @darknightbegins85
    @darknightbegins85 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Close, hk is cooler tho

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd like to combine them into a hybrid

  • @darylragland1502
    @darylragland1502 ปีที่แล้ว

    Notchiness. Wtf. It's the safety plunger

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed, the plunger is probably creating the notchy feeling.

  • @jaysview4009
    @jaysview4009 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🙄

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the comment

  • @tereztiago9133
    @tereztiago9133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That HK setup makes a glock look like a work of art..🤮😆

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If you like shooting a brick, glock is where it's at.

    • @tereztiago9133
      @tereztiago9133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Gruntreviews i dont i love HK’s and walther’s i have both

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tereztiago9133 the Germans can definitely build a fine firearm.

    • @jonbarlock848
      @jonbarlock848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha Glocks are ugly as hell.