The Year of the Mahabharata War - Nilesh Nilkanth Oak -
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- In this Talk, the speaker talks about the dating of the Mahabharata War and working upon various parallel disciplines he pushes back the date of the Mahabharata back to around 7000 years ago. Many scientific and human science disciplines and their correlations are used in his analysis in which palaeo-astronomy plays a great role. The speaker claims great convergence in the dating of the Mahabharata War through various disciplines.
For related Indic Talks and Indic Courses, see
india.cisindus...
/ cisindusuniversity
#IndicTalks #Mahabharata #NileshOak
![[Q&A] Timeline of 17000+ Years of Unbroken Indian Civilization - A Talk By Nilesh Nilkanth Oak](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fpAYs6oYhXM/mqdefault.jpg)
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. I can’t even imagine the time, effort, commitment, organization and sheer devotion he put into this. And yet he stays true Hindu in character when he says skepticism is welcome. Articulates his points but never thrusts them on anyone. Respect!
I strongly feel Nilesk is MahamanaMaharshi Nilesh Oak.
You all call this Brilliant?
A simple look at Mahabharata and the kingdoms it mentions would show that its a Iron Age text !
@@randomperson6141 a shining scholar like yourself need not hide behind an anonymous name surely. You're welcome to present your studies on this platform
Well said!! 👏🏽👏🏽San V
@@crypton_8l87
Did you get my previous comments ? Where I mentioned the Link for my Quora profile ?
Seems the admin here is deleting my comments.
Jai Shree Ram.. it is a golden era for india that we have so many scholars like Nilesh Oak sir who are contributing so much for Dharma and truth.
Thank you. Please watch other videos of mine (and also by many other Dharmic researchers. Share with your family and friends.
sir I have shared your videos in every group I am in on Facebook. Your work gives Hindus legitimacy. I am a filmmaker by profession. This is my website- www.the-weddingdiaries.com . I would like to make a film on your research if you guide me. Also I am a big fan of Srijan Foundation , Indus University and Rajiv Malhotras channel. I have seen and analysed almost all the videos that these prestigious organisations have released till date. Keep on guiding us sir.
you can contact me through my website or by using my number- 9614604677 / 8777247099 sir . I really want to make a movie so that we can attract those who find seminars and speeches boring and cannot sit for more than 20 mins watching videos like this one.
Hey don't u know sayin Jai shree Ram is communal.... even Nobel Laureate is also sayin this....
@@nileshoak4749 sir how about ramsetu Bridge? Recent study say it should be 7k years old
OMG he is genious. the government must recognise his work and reward him. A separate chapter needs to added in the history book about this. He is Sage Nilesh oak.
flyhighdp London school of economics awarded him
@
flyhighdp
Do you thing Harry Potter Story is true. ?
@knowledge tv
With no offense, I say this and I see we are building country with fake ideology, fake identity to give personal advantage to the fellow who have no relationship to this country.
The foundation is wrong.
I don’t know what Yiu mean don’t compRe HP with Mahabharata.
@knowledge tv
I need some clarity to make the point straight.
Be honest and polite to answer all my question
( ever if it is silly and simple),
that will allow me to get the clarity I may need to
appreciate your point and get back to you.
> are you think that mahabharat and ramayan is myth
Indeed , it is myth, it may not true for you.
But the point is, it does not matter. Who cares ?
Your understanding is your faith and my understanding is my faith.
> and why you think that hindu ideology is fake
Could you please tell me what is hindu ideology ?
is there one such thing called Hindu ideology ?
> I dont understand that why you have problem with hindus
First, I have NO PROBLEM with Hindus like you hit me.
However, I have these questions.
What you mean with your statement ?
What you mean by Hindu ? Who is Hindu ?
Why do you thing I have problem with Hindu ?
> if you are leftist then that is ok but try to learn respect other beliefs
> no one know whom ideology is true or fake but we should respect other's ideologies
I let your experince to stay with you, but I don't know if I am leftist.
"try to learn respect other beliefs" -- Where do you think, I have not respected ?
"Remember, your FAITH is faith, till it stays with in you.
The moment, you make it public and impactfull to others,
I think, the others have right to respond".
In the name of faith, I don't think, you can do what ever you want.
if you do, that has to go through the scrutiny. Hope you agree.
But your point is well taken. Agree and Perfect. Expect the same.
@knowledge tv
Dear Friend,
> sorry for using word hindu right word will be sanatan dharma
What you mean by "sanatan dharma " ?
Then , why "sanatan dharma " is called Hindu ?
> "then that is not toraletable because mahabharat"
Hurting and wounding is not the point.
Most of the time, How to express is the challenge.
people do their ability with what they know, I guess.
The society is still livable, because, in most cases, I don't think people want to hurt each other.
> "why you people think mahabharat is Harry Potter like you say in your previous comment that"
I don't know, who are all saying it. From this statement, looks like many are saying it.
I guess, in both Mahabharath and Harry porrter, things described which are possible only by imagination.
That could be the reason.
>.
[
He just give his opinion if you dont like then dont watch simple no one have right to call anyone fake how many times till anyone dont hurt anyone sentiments and dont preach any misinformation I dont think mr oak hurt anyone sentiments or preach misinformation he just give his perspective to astronomically then how can you say him fake ? Who are you to decide who is fake or who is not ? Are you supreme court judge ?
]
Dear friend, When you point one finger ,
remember, there are three finder pointing at you.
Why do you think, I should not have my opinion ?
You could also do the same, ignore me, if it is not acceptable to you.
Don't think, getting hurt is your birth right.
> "dont like then dont watch simple no one have right"
-- if you don't want opinion, Don't post in public.
What is the best way to express fake.
Fake has to be told as fake only, I guess. Let me know, if there are any better way to express.
Again, my intention is not hurt anyone.
> " I dont think mr oak hurt anyone sentiments or preach misinformation he just give his perspective to astronomically then how can you say him fake"
Me too my friend, I am just giving my perspective. Don't know Why it hurts you.?
If I am taking time and responding to you, it means something to me, in someway it affected me.
Hope you respect that.
>
His work in public. You say, "You have right to criticize", that is exactly what I did.
I think, your mouth is not mind.
You say, "You have right to criticize", when I do, you are asking who gave you the right.
I am confused. The one who gave you the right to express also gave me the right to express.
Let me make it very clear. We are not going to FIGHT for anything.
"Saying YES to what is not exists, Saying NO to what is exists" both are faith.
Faith is Faith , till it stays with in you.
When it is PUBLIC, it is not faith anymore, it has to be questioned,
its purpose, its intention, etc.
Question, Criticism, opinion should NOT hurt, if it does, it only means, it is cancer to this society.
You can not suppress by ill-treating, by allegation, if you do, it only further validates and confirm, it is cancer to this society.
"you have no right to judge any person identity"
I am not judging person identity but his work, what is presented in public.
"IN THE NAME OF FAITH I DON'T THINK we can do what ever you want"
-- I think, it is fair statement. In my previous statement I changed "you" to "we" to give correct meaning.
[
< the foundation is wrong >
Again you have right to criticize anyone work but you have no right to say that whom foundation is right or wrong because because you are no one to decide that whom foundation is right or wrong please dont pass your judgement to anyone because you are not judge
]
You are putting too many question. Let me try my best.
My question to you is, "Are you the judge? ". No, right ?
Can't you make out the difference between opinion and judgement.
Why are you twisting. The point is not that.
Please consider, all the thing are from me are my opinion and criticism.
> mahabharat philoshipy
What you mean by philosophy ? Why mahabharat philoshipy ? Could you provide some specific ?
Again, don't ever characterize/build/insult my intentions as bad intention.
That is not what we am doing, that is not this conversation is about. Let us not take it there.
Hope you get it.
I have listened to this presentation many times during the past 9 months. I am amazed at his capacity for research and extreme simplicity of explanation. I have recently started reading the publications and blogs of Shri. Shrikant Taligeri and they all fit together. My compliments and respect
🙏🙏
Great. When engineers and scientists talk, people like Romila Thapar and irfan habib and bipan chandra appear childish
So scholars appear childish ?
Wow
Explain this :
INDO EUROPEAN FAMILY ;
Sanskrit Greek Latin Italian. Russian
Eka eîs Unus Une Odin
Dvi duo duo due dva
Tri Treiis Tres Tre Tres
Chatur Tessares Quattro quattre chetyre
Pancha Pente Quinque Cinque Pyat
Shash hex Sex. Sri Shest
Sapta hepta Septem Sette Sem
Ashta Octo Octo Otto. Vosem
Nava. Ennea. novem nove Devyat
Dasha Deka Decem. Dieci desyat
Vs
DRAVIDIAN FAMILY
Tamil Kannada Malayalam Telugu
ondru ondhu onnu okati
Irandu yeradu randu rendu
Moondru mooru moonu moodu
naalu nalku naalu nalugu
aindhu aydu anchu ayidu
aaru aaru aaru aaru
yezu yelu yezhu yedu
ettu entu ettu enimidhi
onbadhu ombattu onpathu tommidhi
pathu hattu pathu padi
@@randomperson6141
In time's when Hindu unity is imp People like u are busy creating divide
@@hemantsarathe8970
Where did religion come here ?
@@hemantsarathe8970
He called scholars childish, my response is pertaining to that.
@@randomperson6141 so your intellectualness what would you say about similarities in tamil and sanskrit.
he has won an award from London school of economics for his pioneering research in Mahabharata which has left communists historians flabbergasted.
Father of modern macroeconomics , JM Keynes was wrong in many aspects of economics even though he was from London School of Economics and politics. So, getting some prize does not mean that he is always correct and his study is scientific in nature. He has got the prize just prove the story as a great epic not historical facts. Let me ask you simple Q. Who is older Rama or Buddha?
Bcz, Buddha has been mentioned in Ramayana many a times as a Nastik ( athiest, who do not believe in God) by Valmiki. Even Valmiki says Rama must punish Buddhists and stop his dhamma. How come Buddha and his followers can be mentioned in the Ramayana and Rama wants to punish them? Who is first? Rama or Buddha? How come Buddha whose time was 2500 years old which is much less than IVC is being mentioned in Ramayana happened much older than even IVC?
@@sidharthvanumurthy2745 buddha is Sanskrit word brother and that was Gautam buddha
@@JaiSingh-vt7bf
Buddha is not a sanskrit word. It's is Budda in Prakruti or Pali language with dhamma lipi. You have to read history with archiological evidence. A great mathematician and Historian DD. Kosambi has written in his book by reading the roc edicts of Asoka and other roc edicts found in Nepal where Buddha was born as Sukiti. Buddha name was "Sukiti" mentioned in the roc edict of Kapilavastu of Nepal. Even Gautama was a Sanskritised name given by his followers particularly by the Mahayana Buddhists. Gautama was a very much Sanskrit word. Where there was no such language scripts called Sanskrit during Buddha and Asoka time, how come such powerful and well-defined with composition of words developed?
Sukiti is a very simple and natural word without any complex composition. Let me ask you one Q. Which is first , a shapest sword or an natural -raw iron? Definitely the answer is natural and Raw Iron. Only after series of processes of resizing, reframing, and repolishing the sword is made. Similarly, Sanskrit is the Sanskari ( reformed, refined, and redesigned) language of Prakruti and it's Dhamma lipi. As there was no such language called Sanskrit that time Asoka did not instruct his writers to write Buddha words and his rules of law on the rocks what today we see notonly in India but also outside of India( Pakistan, Nepal, Afghanistan, etc.). If there had been any such language called Sanskrit Asoka would have been written in it and not in Prakruti, Kharosti and translated into Greek.
@sakata gintoki such things are unwise to me to see and get answers. What's joke. One who does not know history and can not even read the rock edicts of Asoka is saying Buddha is Brahman. Really pathetic. I will suggest u to read some archeological evident history than listening to such videos. Buddha himself has said that he is neither God, nor avatar, nor messenger or prophet then how come he became avatar of Vishnu? Vishnu Purana was written in 10th century to 14th century AD much after Buddha time. If Buddha was an avatar of Vishnu then why Sankara of Kerala in 5th century AD was incting many kings to kill Budhists and desecrated all Buddha statues and usurped them and converted into gods and goddesses ? Even if u don't not believe my words then read Swami Vivekananda who has written about the cruelty of Sankara in India on Buddhists. Read" Sankara Digvivaya" , Kalhana 's Rajataragni. U will know how Buddhists were killed, beheaded, and burnt alive by the Brahmanical fanatic kings and supporters of Sankara in Kerala. Read Kerals ancient history.
Now if Buddha is an avatar of Vishnu then how come in Ramayana, Valmiki writes that Buddha is a nastik and Rama must punish the followers of Buddha as thieves?
Even in Vishnu Purana, Buddha was being criticized by Yamma the death God. Yamma says that the Gaya Asura ( Buddha in Gaya city) is speeding his knowledge to all people so that the people are not dying and Hence no one is neither respecting him not fear fearing. So, he prays to lord Vishnu to punish Buddha at Gaya by placing a big stone on his head and stop his education.
What does it mean? So, use your brain before believing blindly and develop asking questions. Bcz of Buddha philosophy many countries are prospering ( Japan, Vietnam, Sri Lanka, China, Thailand, Bhutan, etc. ).
@Stephen Johnson th-cam.com/video/CpWro0AJqEc/w-d-xo.html first see this.
Nilesh ji has done one of the most extensive and conservative study on the dates of Mahabharata and Ramayana ... the beauty of his work is that he 'sought' the truth and not try to fit any agenda ... also I thank his fortune that he is an engineer by profession and not an 'academician' .... the reason for he having such an open mind of an adventurer !!!! pranaam to his 'samskar' .... this is Bharatiyata in real life ... this should be the attitude of our Bharatiya kids of the future
Great research Nilesh ji. Thanks CS talks forum.
Kudos to Nilesh Ji for his scholastic work. Bharat's itihaas has to be unleashed based on firm reliable proofs and this is one giant leap.
Using emerging archeological evidences, astronomical, genetic, forensics, carbon dating tech, there shall be consensus on dateline of Ramayan, Mahabharat.
RamJi ki Kripa se hojayega
Immense work and wonderfully explained, Nilesh , thanks for letting the light come in .
Not just his discourses ... his books really show how thorough his work has been ... his analysis is completely scientific and his knowledge on astronomy is crystal clear!!! Pranaam Nilesh Oak
Namaskar Nilesh
Deep and profound research by Nilesh which will make the Sceptics believe in the research.
I wonder how much more advances were done by the inhabitants of Bharata Varsha.
Dhanyavad.
Wonderful logical n convincing.Just a querry.It is said that Mahabharat was written by Vyas which was actually taken down by Lord Ganesh.Is Lord Ganesh is part of history or Hindu mythology ?
@@purshottamsawant7227 that is a question. Just as nilesh said we need to collect factual evidence and find the solutions.
Just because we don't have evidence it's not wrong. We need to prove that it's wrong.
It's great. Salute to this great gentleman who is not only genius but respect every evidence / arguments of other. All these reserch -- must get refered in our school text book in simple terms. Thank you Nilesh ji for enriching true Bharatiya knowledge. 🙏
🙏🙏
The ease with which Nilesh Oak shares his incredible research and knowledge is indeed commendable. What I like best when watching his videos, is the disarming smile ans lack of stress when doing so. Koti koti pranams to you Nilesh ayya for tabling your amazing finding before. us.
Thank you.
he has done most scientific research on determining the date of lord ram and Mahabharata, thank you nilesh sir. which has proved all anglo Indian, orientalists,communist historians wrong.
@@alokbejai5250 if isn't matching your theory so it's non scientific.. Wow... Bhai Tu yeh maanke ki Mahabharata kal likhi gayi ha..apne aap jo shaant karle 😂😂
MahaRishi NileshOak is something special
Har Har Mahadev 🚩🙏
I remember Lokmanya Tilak words in The Arctic Home in Vedas: The investigation of this magnitude cannot be completed by one generation. We can humbly add our effort to existing ones and leave the rest for next generation.
Humility is essential.
Thank you for your openness and effort.
Thank you Nileshji. Outstanding work including explaining the oldest scientific methodology from Panini which is still the Gold standard for any research in any field. You have made this lecture so easy to understand for people not in your area of study and research. It is a classic.
Dhanyavad.
Thank you. Just a minor nitpick, I know you meant 'Patanjali' when you wrote 'Panini'. :) Thank you for your kind words. Please watch 30+ of my other youtube videos on related subjects.
Yes its correct Patanjali. I have watched your same talk from SI 1 and 2. Dhanyavad.Very best wishes.
@@rakeshbhandari8111 even if u do spelling mistakes he will understand so this is a power of maharishi ji ;)
This man’s learning is monumental! Fantastic. I feel so much better informed after a mere 30 mins!🙏🏽💐
pls check his guru's work..Dr. P V. Vartak from Pune.India
Awesome research!! Feel proud!!
All these evidences in our epics were removed in one stroke by invaders by calling Mahabharata and Ramayana as mythology.
Also, listening to the speaker gives a sense to all true Indians that only way to safeguard this civilization is do away with Western education model and start embracing Vedic studies..
Jai Hind!
Ramayana and Mahabharata aren’t entirely mythology.
They might be true to some extent.
But scriptures always mix fact with fiction.
For example:
Mahabharata claims a Pandya king named
Malayadwaja took part in Mahabharata war.
But the problem is : there is no pandiya king by that name ( mostly early pandyas had only Tamil names )
Even if we assume author used a different name, Pandiyas are Iron Age kingdoms
(600 BC to 300 AD )
And Tamil texts of this time don’t mention
Any pandya taking part in the war.
Even if you go dig the whole Tamil history ,
The farthest we go is till
1800 BC ( adichanallur excavations )
If you go Further back of 1800 BC - archeologists believe that
Dravidians inhabited Indus Valley.
I couldn't agree more
Our History Books are crap already. They need to change to lot. And this information must be included in it. At least these jargons like 'Mandala', 'Nakshatra' and many more that he used in here.
I know what you mean but it sounds like you want to say that Mandala and Nakshatra are made up or meaningless words. Which they're not.
@@archockencanto1645 read properly. I am not playing with words 🙂
You are looking a step ahead of Dr. P. V. Vartak in our Vedas, Ramayana and Mahabharata. This is very heartening. With such research our history and history textbooks must be re-written.
History can’t be rewritten in favor of mythology
@@randomperson6141 can understand your ass-pain.
@@randomperson6141 seethe more.
This topic is new to me.
However I am from Udupi. Meeting Bannanje Govindacharya will definitely give new light about bhagavadgita, puranas, ramayana etc.
Thanks c s talk we proud to be an bharatheey
Hare Krishna!
Truly appreciate your research sir, you touched many interesting and eye opening aspects for the dating of Mahabharata
Keep up the professional scientific research Nilesh ... and for explaining in layman language for common folks like me ... I've learnt a lot!
Thanks for GREAT information.Value your efforts.नमस्कार 🙏
Salute to you the truth teller Nilesh Oak sir, Jai Arya varat, Jai Mahabharata, Jai Indus Valley Civilization 🙏🙏
Sir you made the most convincing theories than others that have found it ways in mainstream media. Your use of scientific methods, analysis, and to be able allow for opinions, discussions, questioning will undoubtedly lead closer to the truth. I hope with continuation in the quest for the truth the scientific community stands together for the purpose of seeking the truth with the most accurate and factual content. After all, seeking the truth is the journey the path towards enlightenment because the absolute truth resides with God.
It is very important that serious Indic researchers must reconcile with each other about their inferences regarding the exact date of the Mahabharat war. Dr. Oak puts the exact date of the Mahabharat War at 5561 BCE. He is very confident about his proofs. Again, Dr. Vedveer Arya and others put the date of the Mahabharat war as 3162 BCE, 2399 years less. So who is correct? This is of enormous importance, has to be resolved first among the experts.
Super interesting. Wish we could see all his slides. The subje t matter is heavy and the slides would have been helpful
Brilliant work! Nilesh sir will bring forth to all Indians our true history and the heritage ! We will be restored , out of distortions of history and our misunderstanding of our culture
Namaste 🙏 I'm so thrilled to watch this research and I feel immense gratitude towards Nilesh sir, who carried such a precise research on such a significant topic, this will help quench the thirst of millions of curious minds. Thankyou sir
EXCELLENT, MARVELOUS, SPELLBOUND, FABULOUS, EXTRAORDINARY.
I fear for this Man's life bcoz of the importance of his work. Its clear to anybody with decent working knowledge of Current Indian polity, the history of how this polity evolved, clash of civilizations ideas, and Indology that validation of Indic history which has hitherto been dismissed as myth has profound implications for India and the world.
Me too sir.
Sahi bole.. jo b thoda history crack karte ha, get killed..we need people like him
Very nice information.Great study. (Dr Sunil Yardi)
Great fan of you Nilesh sir🙏🙏🙏
Dear Mr. Oak,
First let me congratulate you on your great research. This was unique. I can acknowledge that I am taking you as my guru in this field. While everything adds up per your astronomical test data, I do have certain questions. I dont know whether you will answer me or not, but getting those answers would be very much beneficial for myself, as I crave to know more about my civilization. Many questions are getting jumbled up in my brain, trying to put them as fluidly as I can. Please forgive me, because some question can be superfluous or wrong question or question without any data point. It would be great if I get those answers per your hypothesis/framework.
1. As per nadi stotra and from the validation of later excavations we find that River Saraswati was one of the mightiest river(Naditwama Saraswati). As per the hypotheses proposed by you, it was 20th millenium BCE. Can you please put a timeline on when the 10 king war had happened and deduce the civilizational fallout?
2. You put God Ramchandra in 13th millenium BCE. Clearly that was the last Ice age. If you search google you will find Lord Ram wearing clothes suitable for tropical climate. But we know these clothes and food habit does not go well with ice age. Does Ramayana or other scriptures say anything about the clothings and food habit of that time?
3. What was the engineering/technology level of that time?
4. What was the extant of Indic Civilization of that time?
5. Since the Vedas are in Sanskrit, I take that Sanskrit was known at that time. Then where from the language Chhandas came from?
6. Did the vedas had any written form? If yes then what was the script? As far as I know the modern Devnagar script came into being around 3000 years ago.
7. As per Vedas, we were quite acquainted with horse. It made a pillar of our integrated arms warfare system(Chaturanga). From Mahavarata, we know Sahadeva was one of the greatest Cavalry commanders of the time. Yet we dont get any archaeological evidence of horse in early and middle layers of cities belonging to Saraswati Valley civilization(Hariyupa, Kalibangan, Lothal, Mohan-jo-daro etc). But the most modern layers perhaps show evidence of horse. What can be the probable reason?
8. Can the seals what we obtained in SVC be transalated in Sanskrit or some sister language?
9. Was the society multi-lingual?
10. Do we have all the parts of the Vedas? I heard that 90% was lost.
11. Can you please draw a timeline when the various tribes started their exodus from here? Somewhere I read the proto germans are from Garundika tribe. The ancient Britons(Druids) are from Dryuhu tribe and the Cheddar Man was actually a darkie like you and me.
12.Where do you put the Andronovo culture etc in all this framework.
I have many questions. Searching for answers.
Regards,
Sudipta Dey(deysudipto24 at gmail)
Thanks. All are relevant questions. Please listen to my videos (this one and other) again and multiple times. Also read my blog articles. It answers most of these questions (or it explains why some of them can not be answered with our current technology and/or what additional research needs to be done to answer them).
Then, pick one of the above subjects that is most dear to you (and feel passionate about) and start researching on it. And by luck, you may able to to help us all know more about our civilization and the world.
Nilesh Oak
Nilesh ji great lecture as always Sir.
But Sir I am still waiting for your answers on all the questions I have asked in your blog.
Kesari Chakra, Thank you. Please do read the response I wrote to Sudipto Dey ji above. In addition, I can only respond to the questions for which I have answers and/or as time permits. Here is one man army doing multiple things at the same time. Appreciate your patience.
Nilesh Oak
Of course sir.
Please take your time.
Keep up the great work
th-cam.com/video/RedV48OCEFg/w-d-xo.html
Excellent research and a very clear, cogent and honest presentation of such a nebulous and much maligned as myth topic. 👍
Earlier I just believed Mahabharata and Ramayana to be true. Now I can claim that I know it to be true.😊
Brilliant work, it's redeeming for those who believed in high antiquity of the Vedic civilization
Has he been given Indian award? If not, why? Earlier the better, ...we should at least give now and make people aware of what to read ( books related to our history, culture and heritage)and what not to see (present media programs)
Fake scholars don’t get awards
Can I get appreciation too ?
Mahabharata mentions ( in Adi parva - section 177) Mlecchas like Yavanas , Dravidas , Keralas , Sakas , Sinhalas
Came out of
The cow Nandhini and fought Vishwamitra’s army :
The Mlechhas were :
Yavanas - Indo Greeks (180 BCE- 10 AD )
Sakas - Indo Scythians ( 150 BCE-400 AD)
Dravidas - Tamilakam ( 600 BCE - 300 AD)
So how on earth did Mahabharata happen in 5561BCE ?
My God, how much research you have done. I just went bonkers. God speed man.
Amazing work. Genius. I had a feeling that Sarswati River disappeared around the time of Dwarka disappearing into sea leaving present day Dwarka arid with the disappearance of tributaries making Dwarka lush and heavenly. There must have been a massive earthquake leading to formation of Sindhu River. Perhaps so called Mohenjo Daro and Harrapan civilisation are just remnants of Sarswati Civilisation.
Harappa and Mohenjadaro aren’t Aryan civilizations ( Painted grey ware)
Indus Valley civilization was “black and red ware culture “
Very different civilizations
The description of the tumults following the ascension of Krishna makes me think of the Younger Dryas catastrophe, which would place it nearer 10-12 thousand years ago. Another catastrophe further back would be 24-36,000. The fact that Mahabharata mentions vimanas, flying ships, pretty much eliminates anything so recent as 4-7,000 years.
Thanks Nilesh... You have given a new insights to amateur history and mythology lovers like me
I am not a student of any kind, nor a researcher just a crazy history geek who gets trapped into anything which has a history and that's not just limited to Indian history but world history. And for Mahabharat and Rasayan I've been so fond but always had doubts with its occourance and more specifically it's dates. Thank fully I came across your first works some 3-4 years back when you investigated the dates of Mahabharat based on Arundhati. That made me actually so happy that, it actually have some dates. Since your work has so much of research and includes almost all possible evidences, why can't our educational systems of course after a proper channel and panel discussion add this to history books? As I feel this is just a begning, unfortunately for past 800-900 years before 1947, Indians were not so independent to invest, harvest and work on these subjects but at least now we can continue this 14000 years old story with as close as possible dates and evidences. Thanks for investing your life into this beautiful subject.
Thank you sir to put in your faith , time ,money in the research...proud of you and our history
Please continue the good work
THANK YOU VERY...VERY...VERY MUCH DR.NILESH NILKANTH.
I have heard Shri Oak, time and again as I get to know more everytime and it feels mesmerizing.
Great scholar..like ancient times scholars like Nilakant Oak should younger generation train and teach the technic of interpretation of Vedas and Upanishads and promotion of Indian culture for the benefit of future generations.
OK, I'm pretty much convinced, the evidence does seem to be conclusive. The Mahabharata of course must have been written long after the war, which might explain the addition of horses and chariots, or maybe the horse was domesticated in India much earlier than believed. Such cultural advances can indeed occur at different times in different places. Maybe the day will come when archaeologists find the remains of chariots that match this timing.
They were more like “wagons” as we’d know them probably.
@Kartikeya Sharma woww
Excavation of Sinnauli put some lights on Chariot part in ancient India.
Nilesh Nilkanth, Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson should do one Podcast
One of Indian finest mind
Beautifully Explained Sir with Great Explanation ❤️
Jai Shri Krishna 🚩 Jai Shri Ram 🚩
Har har mahadev 🚩
Sir, your lectures are great n require more n more exposure to theworld n that too FASTER. Thus PLEASE CREATE A BAND OF ORATORS students who follow u n your thought pattern send them out to the world To counter act with current ANTI INDIA LEFTY THOUGHT !
जी...बहुत जरुरत है.....
That’s not Anti lefty thought
It’s anti scientific thoughts
@@randomperson6141 India knows science thousands years before these europeans Or western colonizers..we know that very well.. Now time to expose...
And yes thrse are countering not scientific one.. Rather it is burying the anti india left propagandas
Thank you Nilesh ji for sharing the immense knowledge on ancient histroy thank you once again
Sir really u r taking great initiatives towards establishing truth to people searching of "Param Brahm" thankyou🙏
Wow . This should be included in our school curriculum.
This is the kind of work that inspires many to research further.
As for lesser mortals like us, we read their books to stay fascinated and appreciate the culture we were born into.
Absolutely brilliant and very well and thoroughly explained.
Sarsvati comes dozens of times in RV Mandala 10 also. River definitely was present at that time.
Just want to say from my heart
Thankyou Sheeman ji
Nd your personality inspired me
Oak sir wowww, What level of research and you are trying to make it simple for us viewers. Just wondering how has India come from the leader of extreme science to such a stage. Its sad. I guess we should get our tittle of the supereme leader back.
God bless you and give long life to great further many many invasions. // Bharatamata muddu bidda//
Excellent explanation of events based on the Ramayana and Mahabharata. But I was always wondering and am curious to know a couple of things. One: if there were common characters between these two great Epics, wonder how they would have lived through so many thousands of years (either they or their immediate heirs. Two: these Epics were written much more later I believe by Valmiki and Ved Vyasa. I'm extremely inquisitive to know what would have been their base for writing these Epics after several years of those events happening. Please enlighten. BTW, I'm very glad to see that you were able to provide so much evidence about these two Epic Tales of India and thanks for establishing that these are true!
Great work sir ji. Write books in different languages of India for spreading knowledge among grassroot people.
full of gyan...
Splendid talk, clear explanations. I tried to read reviews of his books, but those reviews were not informative, but only gave some opinions. This talk clarified many issues.
It is true that there are differences in dates among researchers. This need not surprise us. Lawyers and even Supreme Court judges differ in their interpretation of law, which is always tinged with their opinions and often unstated inner convictions or bias . Even medical doctors diagnose differently on the basis of same data. Astronomical evidence is there for all to see.
This is great talk. Thanks a lot.
I thought all South Indian become anti Hindu I was wrong
Great presentation sir
Wonderful Scientific analysis with evidence . I really leaned a lot today. Great work 👍👍.
Sir I salute u. Thank u for this. Jai shree krishna
Wow! exceptional and thank you for all your research 🙏
What would be the time of ‘Bhavishyapurana’ ? I am asking this question because there are certain sterning prophesies which are awesomely true today especially regarding Eslam religion
Priceless research . Profound truth .
Outstanding analysis
Absolutely brilliant!!
Now is the high time to rewrite the history of Bharat, Indus valley civilization and Hinduism.
Is it possible
@@shauryasharma7566 why not. Our history has made us fall into leftist Ideology
It was enlightening listening to your theory and its scientific approach.
Up till now most of the chronology theory came from the west with little reference to India.
I was very much interested in the part where you stated that there were cyclic massive destructive events all over the world.
I and many others would be very much interested and great full if you tally these destructive events chronologically with those that took place around the world.
Your theory and outlook will be more so interesting if you can colloberate with Zachary Sitchin's theory of the 10th planet Nibru and it's effect on Earth.
Fascinating talk so far. Question: What are Nilesh Oak's credentials and educational background? He is an historian? Archaeologist? Anthropologist? Just wanted to know.
I used to sell plastics (GE Plastics). I hold a BS and MS in Chemical engineering and MBA.
@@NileshOak Thanks. I watched the entire video. It's certainly very well thought-out. And I like your attitude of avoiding dogmatic adherence to any one theory and to try and accommodate the evidence.
I have a few questions, but the most important one is this - you mentioned that there are different definitions of "yuga" in the sacred texts. Do you have a list somewhere of the different śāstric pramāṇas (with verse numbers) that mention these alternate definitions? Because the only ones I'm familiar with are the ones that appear to adhere to the "yuga dogma" you had mentioned. If there are others that indicate a shorter duration for the yuga, I would certainly like to see them.
I have most of the mainstream texts (Vedas, Purāṇas, Mahābhārata, Rāmāyaṇa, etc) in my library so explicit quotes are very welcome for me to cross-examine.
@@evidence-basedhinduism2567 Check Aitreya Brahmana (Charaiveti, Charaiveti)
Check Bhagavat Purana, Sushruta Samhita, and others.
@@NileshOak Thanks, I have both Aitareya Brāhmaṇa and Bhāgavata - do you have specific verse numbers?
@@evidence-basedhinduism2567 No.
While doing your research on the subject, could you reliably compute the age of prominent figures like bhishma Krishna or Ram?
Yes. Blogs, videos, books.
your books should be in the schools curriculum. Children should know about our heritage.
Remarkable work🔥🔥
Thank you so much for your work. 🙏
Excellent work.... Congrats Nilesh ji
How do you propose to define the Yuga-cycle? As per your calculation the Dwapara Era is about 6000 years. I am taking end of last Ice age as onset of Dwapara and rise of sea level as the end.
Listen to this talk of mine (multiple times) and other talks of mine, too, until you are convinced that I have not made a single calculation on Yuga. On the other hand I have outlined the serious problems of Yuga theories.
Excellent.
Really; genius work for our green glob.
Sindhu 193 times and Sarasvati 70 times are the two most popular rivers in the RV. With Ganga and Yamuna appearing only 2 and 3 times.
What an outstanding analysis ! I am glad o found your channel
Great methodical explanation for such an interesting but presently revolutionary subject.
Nilesh oak sir, आप महान कार्य कर रहे हो, मै आपका सम्मान करता हूं, अगर आप वीडियो हिंदी में भी बनाएंगे तो काफी लोगो तक पहुंच सकता है, और वो लोग अज्ञान की वजह से हिन्दू धर्म त्याग रहे है, उनको अपनी गलती का एहसास होगा। कृपया वीडियो हिंदी में भी बनाए प्लीज़, dhanywad
Excellent research work done by Mr Nilesh
Excellent analysis Mr Oak. Would love to listen to you more.
Iam fan nilesh dada. Good luck good job
According to S. R. Rao "The available archaeological evidence from onshore and offshore excavations confirms the existence of a city-state with a couple of satellite towns in 1500 B.C." He considered it reasonable to conclude that this submerged city is the Dvaraka as described in the Mahabharata. Please comment
5561BC 12209BC.
When hanum reaches Lanka he was amused to see elephants with 4 dhantas. What exactly shown in 10000 BC movie. Yes l strongly believe Ramayana was around the same time.
1million yrs is cant be truee...
Bro i believe in my religion ..
I believe in all those stories .. but time by time the real story.. is somewhat changed as we see it today..
Bhai jo vedio ka link dia .. usme 7000 yrs bacj jati h ram setu ki date acc.. to some aspects.. born day of rama also around same
@@MrBisht-yt1ou Dude I just got a doubt.
it is mentioned that Ravana Lanka is 100 yojanas from southern part of india.
1 yojan =12.5 kilometres approx.
Which equals 1250 km.approx.
Which probably states near Mauritius islands.
Is ravana lanka is a city near to that islands.
Eventually a lost island was found near that island.
Is there any relation between these two stuff??
Imagine a dream wherein someone is chasing and trying to hurt you, and you wake up all of a sudden. Your heartbeat is at its peak.
In the above scenario, is the dream real, unreal or has it happened? On the physical plane (body) if we measure, only the heartbeat increase is seen. Some better measuring tools can show some brain activity. The question remains as to what has happened and has it happened.
Mahabharata is known to have all the knowledge of the Vedas (Universe). So if you take any concept it has to be there is the epic. Let us see if Quantum mechanics is there in the epic.
The dating of Mahabharata is an ongoing thing with each researcher coming up with a different date and having some points which support their observation. We see the Quantum mechanics principle of the act of observation affecting the outcome.
So has Mahabharata happened? As you keep analysing this, it will make you question "the happening" itself. What does it mean to say that something has happened. This might sound crazy but as said Mahabharata should help us in understanding all the knowledge of the universe and this is a fundamental thing being questioned here. Our understanding of happening is limited and that needs to be corrected so that the question is answered itself.
First, we have to be clear that not everything is happening in the physical plane and is visible. A celestial vision is needed to see things. Vyasa had given the vision briefly to Drupada (father of Draupadi) during the discussion if having five husbands is dharma, explaining the story behind it.
Let us see an analogy for better understanding. If someone asks Is God there. The answer would depend on their existing understanding of God. That is the reason we have varied descriptions of God and as your understanding grows things become clear. The same has to be extended to happening.
As is the case with the dream (happening inside a body) everything is happening within the entity called the Universe.
Super Duper explanation