@@M.R.A.11811 i think the 'proper villain' comment was meant as a compliment to how much of a badass he looked in that car. He is not saying that senna is not a good driver.
1200hp almost no downforce, manual gearbox, meaning miss a gear and your engine is gone. No TC, no Halo no Hans. And among the titans the tame those beasts Ayrton rose to the top. He was not scared of the car. The car was scare of him
@@Dischingo They did not literally fall apart after one lap. People here like to exaggerate everything too much. They had a very short lifespan but not like that.
Those V6 turbos were so freaking loud. And i love it!! I was in a Senna tribute back in 2019 where Felipe Massa passed by me accelerating that beast and i almost went deaf.
@@MoniFps I would kill for that opportunity. The v6 turbo era is by far my favorite. It's not an f1 car until it tries to kill you at least once per lap
@@MoniFps So would a sixties Cosworth DFV engine, it's just that todays cars are really quiet in comparison. Also V10 and V12 are way way louder than any turbo eara F1 car.
@@tygobermind3640 Its the insane RPMs they can hit i mean just listen to the difference between a Cossy DFV and Alonso's championship winning Reanult. You right either way, they do make a very iconic battle cry
The difference in sound between these natural V6 Turbo's and today's flat sounding Hybrids is palpable, the roar from this era of Turbo's was truly incredible and 1200bhp 🤯
dude look at this man's talent there is simply no one with those skills, it's a mixture of skill, passion, hard work, it's the divine gift that only he has AYRTON SENNA DO BRASIL THE LAST BRAZILIAN HERO
A 1:07 quando sta' per passare sul traguardo, mi sembra che alzi il pugno destro, quasi come per festeggiare il suo giro perfetto... Simply the best...❤
Os liquidificadores são a solução para não termos a f1 100℅ elétrica, continua sendo F1, o passado ficou para trás, essas lendas são legais mas temos um grid incrível para acompanhar hoje em dia
Senna foi um piloto de características inigualáveis . Sua capacidade técnica deixava os adversários perplexos e a todos os fãs que conquistou pelo mundo, a lembrança de um Mito. Obrigado por ter nos proporcionado a alegria de sermos parte de um Brasil vencedor.:
Brands ‘86 was my first GP. Apart from Mansell’s victory, I remember it just as well for being Laffites last F1 race and my first experience of Senna in full flight piloting the beautiful JPS Lotus.
How incredible vídeo... fantastic... different times cars and pilotos.. but...this is F1... I am braziliam....Senna forever..... always the best.... SENNA O MELHOR .... SEMPRE
Thanks for bringing the memories back - I was at Brands that day, in a grandstand on the outside of Clearways, willing Senna on, and this takes me right back there.
esse lotus preto e capacete amarelo do Senna parecia um carro perfeito feito para o piloto, era bonito demais de se ver, como Senna marcou a sua época impressionante.
The only F1 race I’ve ever seen in person was the 1986 German Grand Prix in Hockenheim, 2 week after this Brands Hatch race. I’ve been an avid fan ever since. Unbelievably impressive cars back then.
I love the sound mix (Or design?) in this video. It sounds very natural and like you're actually trackside. Modern F1 could learn a thing or two from this video when it comes to capturing the sound!
The Lotus 98T was absolutely terrifying and a great example of why this era of F1 was so dangerous, albeit entertaining and gratifying. You hear a lot of talk about how the new engines sound weak and complaints about the halo and officiating but honestly I'd trade loud, twin turbo insane revving V6s and V10s for no dead drivers in a heartbeat. We lost so many incredible people during the "loud, scary sounding and super fast" era; and yeah, I absolutely love auto racing and my ultimate dream is to lap the Nürburgring but you have to ask, was it really worth it? Was it really worth the lives of people like Senna, Ratzenberger, Villeneuve, etc? I'm sure their loved ones would say no. I'm sure the vast majority of F1 fans would agree. It's not worth it now either.
What a car man seen it at imola zandvoort and silverstone the engine sound goes through you… In those days you could walk down the pit lane and visit your team watching them work all night to change heads and turbos. Nothing like nowadays nowhere near
Poter ripresentare il regolamento 1986 con la tecnologia di oggi (ovviamente con i sistemi di sicurezza passiva di oggi) le attuali F1 sarebbero spazzate via
You can really hear Sennas technique of blipping the throttle through the corners But how did he even think of this? Other drivers tried this and said they found it impossible
…and he qualified third fastest, beaten by Mansell and Piquet. Piquet’s time was almost half a second faster. The Williams-Honda’s won the whole weekend, first and second on the grid, and First and Second in the race - well done Williams Racing Team!
They could definitely handle them and pretty well I am sure. Todays cars are much,much quicker. Probably less "physical" in the sense that there's power steering and sequential gearbox, but more demanding in the higher G-Forces and precision needed.
@@jrrs8692 I would argue modern cars require less precision. You almost never have to correct snap oversteer anymore. These 80s turbo beasts required the perfect amount of clutch, pedal, and steering or you’re going right into a wall.
I’d say on average it was the third best car of the year. It was far behind the Williams and also behind the McLaren. It’s a wonder how senna got 8 poles that year. In fact, senna was so fast on Saturdays that the lotus team was accused of cheating by multiple teams. Senna throughout the year was complaining of understeer and fuel management issues.
Late 80's early 90's F1 cars were probably as fast as 2015-2020 prime LMP1 (even thought they never ran there in real life LMP1 should go around 1m10s and 1m07s at brand hatch).
We were lucky to have been alive when this was live and Formula One was. Now that it is no more, we are lucky that we have more time to tidy up, do the garden and bung a nice pork roast in the oven. In this way, the fact that Grand Prix racing is gone is a good thing, not a bad thing. Perhaps, the man who has suffered most is Verstappen, since he is the best driver since Schumacher, and there is nothing and nowhere suitably commensurate to his talent in which to compete.
Lighter cars (only 540 kgs), tires that can take a beating, dragster-like straight-line speed & the badass driving of the man himself😁 Bring back 500kg N/A F1 cars with low grip tires and refueling. That’ll do as much of a favor for the drivers as it would for the fans & would make grand prix cars look alive & fast again.
That's really a great question clark. I am going to assume you are talking about the '86 Lotus-Renault vs the '88 McLaren-Honda that won 15/16 races. Apologies if I am telling you something you already know, but the rules of F1 - specifically technical regulations related to the cars themselves - change a lot from year to year. From 1986 to 1988, the main changes were a reduction in allowed fuel (220 litres to 195 to 150), and a reduction in engine boost pressure from unlimited in 1986 to 4 bar in 1987 and to 2.5 bar for 1988. The net effect of this for turbocharged engines was the loss of 250-300hp in race trim and a significantly larger drop in qualifying (because of the loss of qualifying engines/boost. Renault, for example, used to block off their wastegates entirely for qualifying, allowing the engines to run as much boost as they could generate in 1985/6.) In addition to this, during 1986 F1 had two main tyre suppliers, so both Pirelli and Goodyear were supplying the softest tyres they believed could be used effectively. In 1988, F1 had standardized on Goodyear as the sole supplier, meaning the company was able to provide spec tyres as they no longer had a competitor to beat. There were also changes to allowed sizes of wings on the cars in an effort to further reduce cornering speeds and other items. The loss of 'that much' horsepower makes fairly comparing the cars' performance (1986 Lotus-Renault 97T to McLaren Honda MP4/4 from 1988) next to impossible. FWIW I dug out some reference books for the years in question and the fastest race laps for Senna (in 1986) or Senna/Prost (in 1988) at the same circuits with substantially the same weather were on average about 2-2.5 second quicker for the 1986 car. There were some aberrations, however. At Spa the pole time was significantly quicker in '88 than in '86 and the race fast lap was less than 1 second slower in '88 than it had been in '86. At Imola, Prost's sister McLaren 1988 set the fastest race lap at more than a second quicker than Senna's '86 fast lap in the Lotus. If the 1988 car had been allowed to use the same boost level and tyres as the 1986 Lotus, there is little doubt it would have been much faster. But absent controlled conditions (including not only regulations but weather) it is very difficult to make accurate comparisons. Despite the huge loss of power in qualifying, on average the lap times were not massively different across the field from 1987 to '88. At pure power circuits (like Monza) the difference was more than 2.5 secs. As stated above, at Spa and a few other circuits the fastest race laps were comparable. The 1987 Williams-Hondas (running in much closer power and fuel configuration to the 1986 cars than the 1988 cars were allowed) were very much faster than the 1986 Lotus-Renault Senna is in here. Hope this helps!
Ayrton couldn't have been in a more badass looking car.
Proper villain
Absolute monster of a car and driver! Love the sound and shortshifting due to the monstruos power delivery👏
@@lucasdesouza5437Cry. You didn’t see him playing live, is the reason of your ignorance and anger. Poor boy.
@@M.R.A.11811 i think the 'proper villain' comment was meant as a compliment to how much of a badass he looked in that car. He is not saying that senna is not a good driver.
The growl, the twitching of the car, the freaking speed…..epic
What a car and what a driver😍😍😍😍
Every car is iconic with Senna 's yellow helmet behind the wheel but this Lotus JPS and McLaren Marlboro liveries are out of the chart.
That McLaren rocket red is the proper color for a racecar.
This car, this track, this driver... holy f
0:35 That is the Edge everyone is looking for
He didn’t use a lot of the kerb on this lap
0:43 🤯
Last bend also... on a verge of losing it big-time.
1200hp almost no downforce, manual gearbox, meaning miss a gear and your engine is gone. No TC, no Halo no Hans. And among the titans the tame those beasts Ayrton rose to the top. He was not scared of the car. The car was scare of him
Said it all my Dud! LOL
They did have rev limiters, dramaqueen.
@@tygobermind3640 😆
@@tygobermind3640 Well they did have quali Engines, quali transmissions and quali tires that would literally fall apart after one quali lap.
@@Dischingo They did not literally fall apart after one lap. People here like to
exaggerate everything too much. They had a very short lifespan but not like that.
The real GOAT
I know the V8, V10, and V12s are known for they're sound but I mean come on, those V6 turbos belong on that list too
Those V6 turbos were so freaking loud. And i love it!! I was in a Senna tribute back in 2019 where Felipe Massa passed by me accelerating that beast and i almost went deaf.
@@MoniFps I would kill for that opportunity. The v6 turbo era is by far my favorite. It's not an f1 car until it tries to kill you at least once per lap
@@MoniFps So would a sixties Cosworth DFV engine, it's just that todays cars are really quiet in comparison. Also V10 and V12 are way way louder than any turbo eara F1 car.
@@tygobermind3640 Its the insane RPMs they can hit i mean just listen to the difference between a Cossy DFV and Alonso's championship winning Reanult. You right either way, they do make a very iconic battle cry
They’re great but not a patch on the v8, v10 or v12s imo! Insulting to those engines to even suggest it belongs on the same list haha
The difference in sound between these natural V6 Turbo's and today's flat sounding Hybrids is palpable, the roar from this era of Turbo's was truly incredible and 1200bhp 🤯
One of the most beautiful cars to grace Formula 1!
That livery and that helmet were golden. Absolute perfection. (Though Senna's helmet looked good in every car.)
Especially the McLarens
my favorite F! driver
He worked miracles in that car.
He used every inch of the track. Senna, like few others, turned driving into an art.
This demonstrates Senna's unique "throttle stabbing" style through the corners to perfection. Lest we forget.
Ayrton Senna war der Allerbeste.❗
👍 👏 🤝
Freundlichst Willi . . . 🎩
dude look at this man's talent there is simply no one with those skills, it's a mixture of skill, passion, hard work, it's the divine gift that only he has AYRTON SENNA DO BRASIL THE LAST BRAZILIAN HERO
Yeah 3rd position 👏
You know this wasn’t the fastest time?
@@ben6993 yes, if I'm not wrong Piquet had the fastest time
You can clearly see and hear entering the apex and exiting it, the incommensurate power band ! WOW
Thx
my favorite Senna car of all times
One of the most beautiful cars in the history of Formula 1 driven by THE LEGEND!
Imagine seen that coming on the rear view mirror. Badass!!
A 1:07 quando sta' per passare sul traguardo, mi sembra che alzi il pugno destro, quasi come per festeggiare il suo giro perfetto... Simply the best...❤
I used to love qualifying back then.
Que carro , que som de motor que piloto isso sim é a verdadeira F1, não esses liquidificadores ligados de hoje em dia.
E domingueiros como pilotos
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😉😂
Voces detonaram (com razão) a Fórmula 1 atual !!!😃👍
Os liquidificadores são a solução para não termos a f1 100℅ elétrica, continua sendo F1, o passado ficou para trás, essas lendas são legais mas temos um grid incrível para acompanhar hoje em dia
Senna foi um piloto de características inigualáveis . Sua capacidade técnica deixava os adversários perplexos e a todos os fãs que conquistou pelo mundo, a lembrança de um Mito. Obrigado por ter nos proporcionado a alegria de sermos parte de um Brasil vencedor.:
Brilliant, I was there that day, watching from Clearways 👍
Brands ‘86 was my first GP. Apart from Mansell’s victory, I remember it just as well for being Laffites last F1 race and my first experience of Senna in full flight piloting the beautiful JPS Lotus.
1:01 this is Senna
the entire video is senna thumbass
@@tygobermind3640 he meant the oveerster correction that ayrton did characterized him
@@pianortd4800 As did any other driver.
@@tygobermind3640 yes and no, alain was more smooth and he almost never had that kind of oversteer for example
Piloti, auto e circuiti leggendari.
How incredible vídeo... fantastic... different times cars and pilotos.. but...this is F1...
I am braziliam....Senna forever..... always the best....
SENNA O MELHOR .... SEMPRE
Listen to him stab the throttle through the corners
human traction control
They all did. It was to keep the pressure going in the turbos
I miss Brands Hatch.
Thanks for bringing the memories back - I was at Brands that day, in a grandstand on the outside of Clearways, willing Senna on, and this takes me right back there.
esse lotus preto e capacete amarelo do Senna parecia um carro perfeito feito para o piloto, era bonito demais de se ver, como Senna marcou a sua época impressionante.
Hard core era. Unreal.
I was there, got some good photos too.
Everything F1 is missing today
like turbo v6 engines? no thanks
@@tygobermind3640 they make over 1.3k hp
Woke turns everything to sh8t
Tremendo pilotaso el rey de las pistas el terror de este deporte la f1
My favorite senna car
The only F1 race I’ve ever seen in person was the 1986 German Grand Prix in Hockenheim, 2 week after this Brands Hatch race. I’ve been an avid fan ever since. Unbelievably impressive cars back then.
What a beast
1. Ayrton Senna
2. Michael Schumacher
3. Max Verstappen
Verstappen 😂
máquina👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Gran Turismo 6 tem que bater esse tempo aí se é louco❤
Omg I remember watching this qualifying & race a great era
TURBO POWER LOTUS AND LEGEND SENNA !!! R.I.P
I love the sound mix (Or design?) in this video. It sounds very natural and like you're actually trackside. Modern F1 could learn a thing or two from this video when it comes to capturing the sound!
The Lotus 98T was absolutely terrifying and a great example of why this era of F1 was so dangerous, albeit entertaining and gratifying. You hear a lot of talk about how the new engines sound weak and complaints about the halo and officiating but honestly I'd trade loud, twin turbo insane revving V6s and V10s for no dead drivers in a heartbeat. We lost so many incredible people during the "loud, scary sounding and super fast" era; and yeah, I absolutely love auto racing and my ultimate dream is to lap the Nürburgring but you have to ask, was it really worth it? Was it really worth the lives of people like Senna, Ratzenberger, Villeneuve, etc? I'm sure their loved ones would say no. I'm sure the vast majority of F1 fans would agree. It's not worth it now either.
Brilliance all around. Epic drive.
What a car man seen it at imola zandvoort and silverstone the engine sound goes through you… In those days you could walk down the pit lane and visit your team watching them work all night to change heads and turbos. Nothing like nowadays nowhere near
Brands Hatch takes some real balls and precision. I'd like to try it in a simulator.
Get yourself a Logitech G29 (for PS) or a G920 (for Xbox) and a copy of assetto corsa. It’s great fun to drive one of these round
@@ben6993 Thank you
I love the sound...❤ unfortunately it's different today😪
Bom dia meu Amigo !!!!
Senna, Simplesmente o Melhor.
Foi e sempre será.
Muito obrigado pelo vídeo e parabéns pelo canal.
Abraço do Brasil.......
O brasileiro Nelson Piquet deu show nessa qualificação com a Williams. Vale a pena assistir.
Senna , lotus 98t é insano o son do motor desse carro.
O filho do motor ?
1986 F1 turbo monster big power in F 1
Big turbo lag too, it was pedal down, wait, wait, bang 1100-1400hp.
Ferocious car
Sacaba chispa de la pusta mi vida ❤
MASTER ALREADY
Wow 🤩
Respect the GOAT!
Senna lendário
Oscillating the throttle in the middle of the corner. Apparently stuck the nose a little better.
Poter ripresentare il regolamento 1986 con la tecnologia di oggi (ovviamente con i sistemi di sicurezza passiva di oggi) le attuali F1 sarebbero spazzate via
You can really hear Sennas technique of blipping the throttle through the corners But how did he even think of this? Other drivers tried this and said they found it impossible
Senna was fast ... pretty fast !
The great man
When F1 cars rally were racing cars and not tech-filled, overweight, washing machines. And Brands hatch was the best track in Britain to watch F1.
good looking car...and that was very fast....
Pretty cool stuff. I like the shorter wheelbase..
GOAT!
…and he qualified third fastest, beaten by Mansell and Piquet.
Piquet’s time was almost half a second faster.
The Williams-Honda’s won the whole weekend, first and second on the grid, and First and Second in the race - well done Williams Racing Team!
You can hear Senna cracking throttle on and off to gain oversteer then send it.
Ele faz parecer ser fácil!
on the limit at every corner
The first Grand Prix I attended
bonito de ver
Damn it looks fast. Imagine what modern cars would look in Brands Hatch. If the same layout was used they probably would do a 55 seconds lap.
Modern day Twitch streamer f1 drivers could never handle this beast
But I would love to see them try.
They could definitely handle them and pretty well I am sure. Todays cars are much,much quicker. Probably less "physical" in the sense that there's power steering and sequential gearbox, but more demanding in the higher G-Forces and precision needed.
@@jrrs8692 they would be willing to risk the complete lack of safety these cars had? I don’t think so.
@@jrrs8692 I would argue modern cars require less precision. You almost never have to correct snap oversteer anymore. These 80s turbo beasts required the perfect amount of clutch, pedal, and steering or you’re going right into a wall.
00:35 literally using all the width of the white line, every millimetre
awesome
So about 1/2 second behind Piquet and Mansell's time. How good was the Lotus that year compared to the Williams?
I’d say on average it was the third best car of the year. It was far behind the Williams and also behind the McLaren. It’s a wonder how senna got 8 poles that year. In fact, senna was so fast on Saturdays that the lotus team was accused of cheating by multiple teams. Senna throughout the year was complaining of understeer and fuel management issues.
Bom circuito
素晴らしい走りですよね。ターボの全盛期で…ルノーのターボですよね。格好いいよね。
More talent in his right foot than the entire grid in 2024. Proof that stats aren’t everything
You can hear that talent at 0:12 when he's on-off-on the throttle through Druids
Where is the John Player Special logo?
ルノーのターボエンジンでも…
めちゃくちゃ速いですよね…
1000馬力は出てますよね。
Late 80's early 90's F1 cars were probably as fast as 2015-2020 prime LMP1 (even thought they never ran there in real life LMP1 should go around 1m10s and 1m07s at brand hatch).
We were lucky to have been alive when this was live and Formula One was. Now that it is no more, we are lucky that we have more time to tidy up, do the garden and bung a nice pork roast in the oven. In this way, the fact that Grand Prix racing is gone is a good thing, not a bad thing.
Perhaps, the man who has suffered most is Verstappen, since he is the best driver since Schumacher, and there is nothing and nowhere suitably commensurate to his talent in which to compete.
Best way to get Senna on pole … tell him Prost is holding provisional.
Greatest pilot ever in great cars! Great days they were! Nostalgia.
1:04 nearly a massive crash
no
There is violence to these cars that even the v10s don’t have
Crazy to think that wasn’t faster than Piquet
Final boss of GT6
A quel moment les grosses écuries de sont -t-elles rendues compte qu'il fallait le prendre ?
current car are much faster but i don’t know why when senna drives , car looks much much faster
Lighter cars (only 540 kgs), tires that can take a beating, dragster-like straight-line speed & the badass driving of the man himself😁
Bring back 500kg N/A F1 cars with low grip tires and refueling. That’ll do as much of a favor for the drivers as it would for the fans & would make grand prix cars look alive & fast again.
No JPS branding?
Sat so far forward in the car
0:43
is this vehicle faster than his mclaren honda?
That's really a great question clark. I am going to assume you are talking about the '86 Lotus-Renault vs the '88 McLaren-Honda that won 15/16 races.
Apologies if I am telling you something you already know, but the rules of F1 - specifically technical regulations related to the cars themselves - change a lot from year to year. From 1986 to 1988, the main changes were a reduction in allowed fuel (220 litres to 195 to 150), and a reduction in engine boost pressure from unlimited in 1986 to 4 bar in 1987 and to 2.5 bar for 1988.
The net effect of this for turbocharged engines was the loss of 250-300hp in race trim and a significantly larger drop in qualifying (because of the loss of qualifying engines/boost. Renault, for example, used to block off their wastegates entirely for qualifying, allowing the engines to run as much boost as they could generate in 1985/6.)
In addition to this, during 1986 F1 had two main tyre suppliers, so both Pirelli and Goodyear were supplying the softest tyres they believed could be used effectively. In 1988, F1 had standardized on Goodyear as the sole supplier, meaning the company was able to provide spec tyres as they no longer had a competitor to beat. There were also changes to allowed sizes of wings on the cars in an effort to further reduce cornering speeds and other items.
The loss of 'that much' horsepower makes fairly comparing the cars' performance (1986 Lotus-Renault 97T to McLaren Honda MP4/4 from 1988) next to impossible.
FWIW I dug out some reference books for the years in question and the fastest race laps for Senna (in 1986) or Senna/Prost (in 1988) at the same circuits with substantially the same weather were on average about 2-2.5 second quicker for the 1986 car. There were some aberrations, however. At Spa the pole time was significantly quicker in '88 than in '86 and the race fast lap was less than 1 second slower in '88 than it had been in '86. At Imola, Prost's sister McLaren 1988 set the fastest race lap at more than a second quicker than Senna's '86 fast lap in the Lotus.
If the 1988 car had been allowed to use the same boost level and tyres as the 1986 Lotus, there is little doubt it would have been much faster. But absent controlled conditions (including not only regulations but weather) it is very difficult to make accurate comparisons. Despite the huge loss of power in qualifying, on average the lap times were not massively different across the field from 1987 to '88. At pure power circuits (like Monza) the difference was more than 2.5 secs. As stated above, at Spa and a few other circuits the fastest race laps were comparable.
The 1987 Williams-Hondas (running in much closer power and fuel configuration to the 1986 cars than the 1988 cars were allowed) were very much faster than the 1986 Lotus-Renault Senna is in here.
Hope this helps!