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The brighter color of the Klein and Milwaukee vs the FLEX makes it easier to see what's in the box in less than ideal lighting conditions. Same is true of tool bags, hunting bags, backpacks, luggage, etc. Anything like that with brighter-colored interiors helps a lot for seeing what's in there.
I feel it's best to have the items in the container high-viz if you want to find them easy. I feel a darker or more neutral color is better for the container. A pack might be slightly different, lighter colors may let more sunlight in the pack. Though if not I would go back to dark. I keep lots of things in my hiking stuff high-viz. Normally the smaller harder to find things. Love my petzl headlight case, it's white and orange, and converts the light into a lantern!
Yes, Flex has added wall mounts & folding shelves too. Still adding more items reminiscent of Packout, but starting to diverge a bit more with their tool pouches, etc.
I already have the Milwaukee but since retiring, I don't need many of them anymore. They are useless to me in the shop since they're priced much higher than typical conventional storage solutions like toolboxes with drawers, etc.
Are you really trying to hunt used boxes? The soft rolling husky bags used to cost 50 bucks and die every 5 years. The milwaukee boxes are a bargain in the long run. Though if I was keeping all my tools in my garage. I would condense and go for cabinets, drawers, and a peg board system here and there.
I'm a maintenance mechanic in NYC and I travel to 12 different properties in the city and I bought the packout thinking I'm gonna roll it all over the city streets. I realized it's too cumbersome and clunky to travel all day with. I ended up buying a tool bag and a really light weight but tough hand truck and bungee corded the bag to the hand truck. I really think the real test is the real world of walk up and down city streets all day. It's lot about wheel size,but design and durability.
I can say from first hand experience that the packout boxes are quite tough. I wrecked my truck rolling it over and my two stacks of packout were slung through the trees. I didn’t loose the first tool. There was some damage but nothing came open.
I’ve invested in the @toughbuilt boxes and I’m very very impressed with the durability and the locking technology they use on their boxes. Great stuff.
Great reviews and videos keep it up! As an electrician working in and out of a truck or van, Side attachments are far more trouble than any level of convenience it might provide. Something is always getting wrapped or hooked preventing the roll out bed from working. Or pulling extra stuff out.
Yeah, ive never seen anyone using any of that stuff, EVER in the real world, from any trade. The only place i could see that stuff being useful is for maybe a mechanic where they got some packout drawers rolling around.
My biggest problem with all those portable tool boxes is the handle length. I'm 6'4" and they all seem to be made for someone who is about 5'8". This means that when I'm pulling them I have to walk hunched over or the angle goes almost straight up and you look like an apprentice on the first day pulling your box. I wish that they would have something to lengthen the handles to make it more comfortable.
I totally agree. I am 6'5". What I do is I got a front mount from stacksmarter and it helps keep the stack weight balanced better and doesn't make your arm hurt for the long distances
Another 6’4” guy here, man it’s very annoying. I have the new Dewalt boxes, I literally tied a handle of paracord to the toolbox handle so that when I have boxes stacked to the top they’re not digging into my awkwardly bent wrist.
I'm 6'2" and things seem okay for me so far. Though I just got my stack higher than the bar and I wouldn't go too much higher without a strap or something as it all gets a bit wobbly. I do have a 6'4" wingspan, so it places my hand near a 6' 1" person on the hang. Have you guys considered ditching the rolling box and getting the packout dolly? Or mounting a plate to one? For anyone still reading, go check out fastcap magshims. They have changed my life and upped my game, you can even mix in playing cards to fine tune things or get the perfect offset and they hold the stack together! Seriously game changing and seriously cheap. They even got my father to tell me I do really good work and he's a perfectionist on a perpetual pursuit. It literally brought a tear to my eye. But seriously, you will have trouble fitting a single playing card in my scribe cuts, thanks to Fastcap's magshims.
Hey guys I might have found another solution. Milwuakee makes a full size dolly. It has packout attachment points and a 400lb capacity! It looks like the bar sits around 4.5-5 feet. There should be good space, it can hold levels between the boxes and the bar. I did want 4 wheels, now I want that.
Thanks for the comparison brother! As a part time handyman, I still like the Milwaukee system and didn't really see anything that would want to make me change from that platform. I also like the fact that they don't do OEM parts just for the sheer fact that they are giving income opportunities to people that like to make things.
You really should have looked at the Ridgid boxes. When I finally decided to buy some a few months ago, I looked at them all for weeks. The Ridgid boxes are heavy and seal tight and the price was unbeatable, even compared to Ryobi, DeWalt and Kobalt. The add-ons for these boxes are nice but they are just gimmicky to me. The Ridgid boxes are on sale again and I'm on my way to pick up a few more this morning.
Flex is the winner in my opinion just for the fact that they thought to have rubber wheels and feet. It helps with not scratching floors. Can’t wait to get me a pack of my own.
I went with Toughbuilt, mainly to store auto detailing polishers and tools. Plan on a second set up for automotive repair tools. And Lowes is like Walmart, every where.
The new Toughbuilt setup, please do one on that when you can. I’m probably a year away from needing to replace my setup but they look really cool and I’ve been very impressed with the quality and ingenuity of the tools that they’ve released.
Great video! It was nice to see a few different options. I currently use ridgid boxes, but am switching to Milwaukee (maybe Klein?) because the boxes detach from one another in the back of the truck. The ridgid boxes go together similar to the flex boxes, so I would watch out for that.
I have the Klein set and really like them. I’m a commercial and industrial electrician that does does tons of side work. I can take off my truck and keep everything I may need to do a job. I even have the new fastener cases Klein just came out with. Great for all the different types of hardware I may need. I got all my stuff free from my electrical supplier but all the boxes are good. Just buy whatever you like and you’ll be happy. But the Klein orange is best looking lol
The Toughbuilt Stack Techs are nice, the plastic feels strong enough to build a car with, definitely alot stronger than the plastic they use for cars. I just replaced all my Husky tool boxes and Kobalt Tool bag with most of the currently available Boxes and the tool tote. All the Dewalt and Craftsman tool boxes feel cheap and flimsy. The Flex ones are pretty cool. Toughbuilt is definitely my favorite and their hand tools are really nice too
All I can say for the additional external storage ideas. Things openly stored in view, tend to go missing on jobsites. Out of sight, out of mind, there be heathens in our midst!
In my opinion the Milwaukee packout set is great but needs room for improvement. But if it free yea I would take anyone of these contenders. I'm new at woodworking and these would be a game changer for me and a true blessing God bless you
I know everyone want OEM parts from Milwaukee but think about this, we are all small businesses and we all depend on our niche to survive or provide supplemental income for our families. Honestly I applaud Milwaukee for not making the add ons as it provides many small time businesses a chance to do what they shine at. I myself am still struggling to get my shop going but only because I haven't found the thing that will sell for me in my area like these guys have.
I picked up the medium stackpack, the charger mount, the 3-battery holder, and the 41 pc impact bit set from FLEX. Let me say, I was super excited followed by disappointment to know it's awkward, annoying and the attachments for inside use of the case straight up don't work together. I'll upload a little video soon but for 150 bucks not including tools, the charger or batteries I'm kinda bummed because I thought this was the solution over red plastic
Thanks for this overview. I invested in the Dewalt system years ago. They were good for travel. The humidity resistance and the pressure release is good too. Festool is good for a shop, but the hard plastic worries me. I have started to use pack out for my shop - batteries and drills and drivers. I am also replacing the dewalt small parts containers - too fragile (maybe they are better now). The Milwaukee is more robust and the ability to stack on the wall is a big plus.
I think Festool's system has a bit of a different purpose. Festool's primary customer was the installer (cabinets, etc.). Their claim to fame was dust collection, which is very important in a customer's home. Their systainers were designed to transport tools, not necessarily parts (thought these came later). Each tool has its systainer set up for it so they aren't banged up during transport. Note the way Matt threw all of the tools together in these boxes. I wouldn't be doing that with my festools. Installers tend to know what tools they're going to need for a specific job so will only take them to the jobsite. They're not trying to carry the whole shop. If you look at their van setup, 1) you'll see how it all fits together, and 2) the price tag will choke you. The van is the cheap part. 🤑 I agree 100% with you about the hard plastic of the Systainer but I think the purposes of the systainer system is very different than these boxes. I agree that the Festool systainer works best around the shop. The hard plastic isn't as likely to get damaged, they protect the (expensive) tools, and the tools come with them. If they weren't part of the deal, I wouldn't pay $100+ for them. I don't have any of these systems because I don't often take my tools anywhere and I don't see the need around the shop. I do have a couple of Ridgid bins that I use for junk in the back of my truck (bungees, etc.) but just a couple and I didn't intend them for tools. They're cool and I look at them when I have some time but for as little as I'd use these, I have better places to put the money.
@@kwilliams2239I love systainers. Way better than all these bulky 3 in 1 on wheel systems. I've got systainers, metalocs, metaboxes, and the Hitachi systainers. They all work together, whether locking together or just stacking. They all take up the same footprint on shelves. They're light and strong. I use packout sorters tho, and keep batteries in a packout in the summer, bc they'll bake in a systainer
@@kwilliams2239i use Sortmo’s LBoxx for my tools, similar to Systainers. i prefer over pack out b/c they’re lightweight and still protect everything and make organizing easy. i don’t get why the pack out style boxes need to be so heavy and bulky
I love the Klein system (has great accessories), and would certainly chose it if I was adding storage, but since I retired (commercial/industrial electrician) I started downgrading/changing my storage. It no longer sees the abuse it once did now that I'm just a DiY'er, so I went with the Hart storage system from Walmart. It certainly is not as durable as Klein, Milwaukee or Flex, but it does a great job for me and it is much less expensive. It is actually better for my needs since it is much lighter than the heavier-duty storage systems making it easier to get up and down stairs, and/or in my truck or my wife's car. It has a lot of variety in box size and configurations including drawer units for my smaller hand tools, large compartments for my power tools and has nice clear-lid storage bins for my small parts/materials. It is similar to the "name" brands with small container inserts, etc. I highly recommend it for Do It Yourselfers, but I would probably not recommend it for professionals working every day. If you like to throw your storage boxes in/out/around the work truck or you routinely have employees who do not respect your equipment investments (we all have them), the plastic is just not thick/heavy enough. I would stick to Klein or Flex. Good luck!
Thanks a lot for pointing out the finer points of each system. 😊 I think the cup holder that won't spill your drink is cooler than all get out! It wouldn't make much difference to me. I always, or nearly so, do all my work in my garage. But Klein does have the greatest color in my opinion. I guess they all have ups and downs like all products do. I think I'd have to agree that Milwaukee has the best shop storage but being on a fixed income I couldn't afford any of them anyway. But you did give me some ideas of how to possibly store some things. Thanks again Matt! 😊😊😊❤❤❤
I joined milwaukee before Klein showed up @ home depot with their boxes. I do really like how robust the milwaukee boxes are. They might be a bit more than the old soft husky rolling bags I used to buy. But those bags disintegrate in 5 years flat. I loathe external storage. It's just a way to advertise your tools to thieves when you clock out... the only external thing that caught my eye is a cord wrap. Though I don't like any I see. I just want a cord hanger, literally like a dowel to hang the cord from. I don't want to have to wrap up a cord around a box after having to wrap up the same cord that was strewn across the jobsite, that's redundant. Nor do I want to have to unwrap the whole cord from the box just to have to unwrap the cord again from my hands across the job the next morning...
I originally got involved with the Ridgid line before Milwaukee even though about building a box system and if my original system ever fails I would probably buy it again. It is far cheaper than the red box system.
It is no secret that I love Flex Tools. Before they released the Stack Pack system, I had a whole bunch of Packout boxes and I loved them. However, once Stack Pack came out, I bought them and sold all of my Packouts for the simple reason that I had all Flex tools and they work together much better. There are some areas where I still think Packout is better like the latching them together. An advantage Flex has is that they can connect backwards the same as forwards, which can be beneficial in some situations. As far as the new releases, Flex has come out with some wall storage, though probably not better than Packout. Loved the video, as always a very thorough review!
Only thing i use my packout for is transporting my tools from my home shop to my cabin 2500 miles away. Don't need all the accessories like a workman at a job site does. I went the cheap route and got the kobalt. Under $180 and holds all my tools, batteries and chargers, and fasteners I need.
Was wondering why ryobi wasn't in the test then saw it was sponsored vid and obv not sponsored by home depot. Got some of the wall system for Christmas and I am liking it so far.
I use DeWalt tools, but I pack them in Milwaukee cases. And since the wood is brown, the 12 year old me feels like I'm mixing ketchup and mustard to then dipping a corn dog in it! LOL
I've been trying to see decide on which system to go with, honestly at this point it's going to be toughbilt. They have the wall mounting system, bags that connect to the metal accessory rails along with other items and all of that attaches to their wall mount system including box to box to wall. Having a micro shop and working out on job sites I need both sides covered and it looks like toughbilt is going to fill that role a little cheaper than the others though not much cheaper. I used to in management at Lowes about twenty years ago, I'm not there because these changes in how they operate started back then and it's only gotten worse since. That is my one concern with buying toughbilt, dealing with Lowes and that's a 90 mile round trip for me if there's problems. The home depot isn't any better here and it's the same distance so it's a crap shoot either way.
While I prefer the front handle on the Flex rolling toolbox, I think the Toughbilt accessory attachment system offers more versatility. That and I already have a lot of Toughbilt stuff
You know where they should put an accessory mount? On the front of the middle and bottom boxes. There's room on the box, (I guess the Flex is the only middle box with a front handle? that might get in the way) and when you're rolling it, something on the front won't add to the width of things that can get snagged everywhere.
Milwaukee is designed around tradesmen that actually work on jobsites, not home gamers that should probably be using a standard roll cab with drawers. Everything goes inside a box with a locking latch to keep out curious sticky fingers. The DeWalt sistem is nice, but there's no way to lock the drawers so I'm heading out this morning to pull the trigger on a Packout set... I might have to paint it yellow tho...
You provide great reviews. Your comments and impressions are worth noting. Entering your giveaway was way too complicated. I had to watch three times to pick up the code words. Your had extra flash screens that were not code words, (*FLEX, CUSTOMIZABLE STACK PACK Bit Cases).
Nice video. Competition tends to raises all competitors. Flex seems to be the choice for accessory depth of selection off the shelf, agree Klein as you pointed out the best attachment system, Milwaukee because grassroots accessory community has best innovation through the community. I have a couple pcs of Milwaukee for travel with Trailer, good tough storage. Milwaukee did add a removable handle available shortly as an accessory for older units as well.
Great video as always Matt I don’t need any storage stuff for outside of the shop but I am really interested in the Milwaukee PAC out drawer storage like you have in your shop come in very handy and in something I would look into.
This makes me wonder if the rail side attachments of the Flex system will work with the Milwaukee Packout boxes by drilling a hole in the support and putting a bolt through with a nut on the back side of the Milwaukee box... I might try this.
Great video! I am new to Woodworking, and I am still working on organizing my shop. You have some great ideas! I think the pack outs are very useful and would help organize my tools to use when building outside.
Thanks for the great comparison. While I certainly understand mentioning Milwaukee not providing all these added rail accessories OEM, I don't see why it really matters. Whether you're money for those accessories is going to Milwaukee or any of the 3rd party supporters of the brand seems inconsequential. Unless all the rail accessories are coming with the purchase of the Flex or Klein boxes it doesn't really matter in the long run.(opinion!). Some might actually make a case for it being better that 3rd party has taken the Milwaukee system so far and will likely continue doing so. Once you're in the rolling box eco system it can be tough to switch though , so videos like this are incredibly useful. I started my rolling box journey with the Rigid Pro Gear system , mostly due it's low cost of entry , and have recently switched to Milwaukee due to the cabinet and drawer box options that were unavailable via Rigid(they did recently add 2 and 3 drawer options though). I'm not sure if Klein and Flex offer drawers or cabinet boxes. But those are excellent for shop and jobsite use. I often find I'm not having to pull off boxes to get to many of my tools thanks to the cabinet and drawers stacked over the rolling box. Now Rigid has added drawers that can actually be set @ the bottom since their 2.0 system allows for the wheel and handle to connect to any of the drawers or full size boxes. It's certainly worth looking @ the Rigid kit once again with that addition, plus the price is much better than the 3 systems covered in this video. It's still Milwaukee for the win in my eyes. Again , thank you for the very informative and helpful video. Keep up the good work!
Well I wasn't really watching for any words as I was looking at getting a pack out. So I watched your video. But I was still waiting on the hint hint, so for the *flex and Klein are they considered a modbox
I love Milwaukee pack out and Klein mod pack out and adding more accessories most of the time . I’m a diy and working on my electrical system and gaining more and more electrical tools as I am going to conquer this task I like your video am not worried about winning any of the pack outs . I like what you said about Milwaukee pack out system . I like the Milwaukee system a lot . Happy thanks giving. I did subscribe to your channel. Enjoy your holiday
I think another thing about buying a system to consider is parts. You buy from a system so you know you can get replacements and replacement parts, once you put it into your workflow. I notice right away, those hydraulic (pneumatic?) struts, on the klein? I see those wearing out. Can you get more? maybe. What if your milwaukee has a part break? can you get more? absolutely, probably for at least 20 more years, minimum. That plastic hook that grabs the box on the milwaukee? I can see that going. I know my systainers do break latches. It's the first thing to go. sure is nice just ordering more. On a system, you can also scavenge parts from other worn out or broken tools. We do this a lot at work with our dewalt saw stands, because of the commonality of parts.
Wish i saw this video before...winning aome tool storage would be awesome I just became a lead hvac installer but too broke for upgrades lolol Great video!
I agree about getting drawers instead. If you're spending this kind of money on plastic boxes, why not spend a little more to get the ability to open them when stacked.
I def lust after the Packout System, but it's great to see everyone stepping up and creating storage/transport solutions. I have Milwaukee tools, but I really don't give a sh*t about "brand loyalty". I do have to stay within my battery platform, but everything else is up for grabs. Whatever works best. Or, maybe I'lll make my own stuff! If I could make the Makita coffee maker work on a Millwater M18 batt, I would!
Great view points on all 3 storage setups and I was blown away that you are making 3 families' day by giving each of those 3 sets away! I have put in my entries, and could certainly put a set to great use, so my fingers are crossed and my calendar page is marked. Also, I bought some Milwaukee Wall mounts and I use it to hang my long handle OPE tools like my Quik-lok string trimmer, pole saw, extensions, and rubber broom attachments, as well as my M18 and M12 battery packs. Very sturdy and easy to use. Good luck to everyone!
I would go with Milwaukee because of the black and red color and I love the looks of the Milwaukee stuff over the others…. But that’s my opinion and preference…. Thanks for sharing and have a good day Matt….
Wow ! that would be pretty cool. I have been looking at a packout system to organize my shop . Flex does look great , they all do , Accessories so many options except on Milwalkee. Thank you for the video ! . Tough choice .
I don't mind Milwaukee's aftermarket products. Simply because there are SO MANY options. I can do absolutely anything I want with it. Someone has made something for everything. I don't feel like any other system has that capability, OEM or Aftermarket.
When companies push to be the first to introduce new items they tend to step on thier own feet. I think that is what Milwaukee, Dewalt and Craftsman have doen with these pack out Boxes. They are now gonna go back to the drawing board and come up with some accessories. Keep up the great work Matt👽
I have all 3 systems. Here’s some not mentioned facts. 1. The outside rails on the Milwaukee dents and bends easily if hit on the right angle, and you cant correct it back once bent. 2. If security is important to yo than go for the flex system because its less obvious in color but mainly because of the positioning of the padlock loop to secure the box. On both the Klein and Packout systems the loop is off centered making it easy to simply squeeze your hand in on the side opposite to the lock to gain limited access. Whereas with the flex there’s no front lifting handle lip to raise and the lock loop is in the center. Lastly overall the Flex in a more dense plastic and feels stable and adequate to sit on if need be. Not to say you could sit on the others, you definitely can tell the difference. Besides sitting on the surface of a Milwaukee would be anything buy comfortable in terms of emergency seating.
Cool vlog that you've done here. I'm a Milwaukee fan because I have all their tools and I do have to say is that I do have some Klein tools also too. So I'm sticking with the Milwaukee Packout for sure. One that I'm not going to do is go out and buy into a new storage system I think that I have to strongly agree with you on the accessory side that Milwaukee has to step up to the plate in this department for sure but overall Milwaukee has Pioneered this system right down to the tee. Now if someone is new getting into these type of storage systems then yes look at the other two brands but for me I'm not going to change because they don't make the little accessories. Keep up the great content 👏
They all look good and I'd like to use any of them. But I like the look of the Flex more. Not a fan of the bright colors (yet i use Ryobi , go figure).
Did you put load in those boxes in the drop test? Milwaukee breaks every time when you have weight in them. I agree that Milwaukee has the best overall, however, it's costly, when you have to keep replacing cases because they break.
I feel like klein should have made the sides metal. I feel like that plastic is gonna rip off when u hang things like rear handle saws off it. The accesories have metal but it attaches plastic to plastic. I tried hanging a saw off the rail and it flexed bad with my flex saw hanging off it (no pun intended) so i returned it and went with toughbuilt. I still own alot of packout but Im really liking the tb stacktech. The fact that u can customize without drilling or permenantly attaching accessories to it is great. Also packout lids indents go into the box unlike TB where the lids are flat across inside so u can fill to the top of the lid and it will close fine. Stack pack is great and tough but attaching the boxes can sometimes be annoying but once it attaches its good and strong. Also TB rails are metal so you unlike the other boxes you can attach and detach with ease things like magnetic levels, mag lights, mag trays etc... and there will be different sized drawers even single drawers coming out very soon.
Great review!👍🏼 On the pack out inside the case with the handle it has indentations inside for the Milwaukee fastener cases! They don’t clip in which would be nice! But the space accommodates the small container box. I really like the external adds! That the others have. Milwaukee needs to step up and make it affordable!
For me. External add-ons are just asking for things to dissappear off the job. It's much worse in commercial construction. I wouldn't trust a tape measure or razor knife outside my boxes when I'm not there. I could maybe see a use for the magnetic bit holder, though get ready to lose bits too! Or some other small items, but the only thing I have found that interests me is an extension cord hanger. I even keep trash bags inside my tool boxes these days. They fly out of the box like a money gun meeting a stripper! I can see people who tend to setup a stationary work zone being more interested in the external stuff. They can setup and be near enough to thier boxes to make more add-ons make sense. My tools are normally centrally located 2 rooms away, where I can gather all the stuff together at the end of the day to lock up.
I went to pick up an online order at Lowe's and it took them 2 hours to find my items. Two 12' composite fascia boards. Twelve feet! How the hell do you misplace that? Now I have an online order that's 4 days overdue at Home Depot, and of course no one knows anything. Lost a week getting a deck built so far. Point being customer service can suck at either Home Depot or Lowe's. Too bad the Tough Built wasn't included. I think they will have the most advanced system once the entire line is released by summer. The rolling base box with drawers looks like a sure winner to me. I think they should have lead with that to make a bigger splash entering the market.
I'm glad you called out Lowe's and Toughbuilt for their terrible customer service. Certainly Lowe's saying there order ould be ready in an hour....still not ready 6 hours later and then giving you a general response of "STICK IT< WE DONT CARE" deserves an extra drive by next time I need something local for my shop...I'll just go to the Home Depot instead to make sure I do my part for "Every action there is a reaction"....in this case I'll be sure to give my $$ to their direct competitor.... As far as toughbuilt....I simply wont buy the brand....
Agreed. While I find that Menards c/s is routinely the worst of the lot, Lowes is nearly as bad. Sometimes it seems worse since I shop there so infrequently it feels like every time I shop there is a bad experience. I swear by Home Depot. We have two stores and both are excellent to deal with. I only use Lowes for very specialty items that I cannot find anywhere else. For example, they still honor my Craftsman tool warranty so I know I can take a broken ratchet to them for replacement.
Great Video! The Klein would be best for suited for my situation but, I do like all 3. Can we still win if WE pay for shipping? 😂 Keep the great videos coming!
Im just starting into woodworking. All 3 are nice boxes. What is everyone's thought on the harbor freight bauer box? Trying to look at budget friendly and something decent to help with storage as i get started...thanks for any input!
Not gonna lie, I was so close to buying the toughbuilt and was hoping you had some hate they dropped the ball as well as Lowe’s . Also, watched the video twice and only 2 secret words.
@@731Woodworks I watched the full video. You said you ordered the same day and drove 90 miles and they didn't have them ready. That is a huge deal don't get me wrong I would be mad too and lowes has bad customer service . They clearly show bias against the stachtech and flex as well and favor the klein as far as stocking ect. But the way you made it sound in the video is that you done almost no pre planning to get them. I feel like the video was lacking because of it.
@@taylanlowe120 I had the boxes in this video for a few weeks. Before filming I made efforts to get the Tough Built boxes. I bought them from two different Lowe's stores and neither store would fulfill the order. I tried to reach out to Tough Built themselves. Not sure what else I could do to get them. I would like to have had them in the video as well, but at some point I have to move forward instead of waiting around on Lowe's or Toughbuilt.
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Any reviews/thoughts on Dewalt's ToughSystem 2.0?
@@SrikanthAshokkumar I haven't tried them yet.
I dig all the different shirts you wear in your videos.
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The brighter color of the Klein and Milwaukee vs the FLEX makes it easier to see what's in the box in less than ideal lighting conditions. Same is true of tool bags, hunting bags, backpacks, luggage, etc. Anything like that with brighter-colored interiors helps a lot for seeing what's in there.
I feel it's best to have the items in the container high-viz if you want to find them easy. I feel a darker or more neutral color is better for the container.
A pack might be slightly different, lighter colors may let more sunlight in the pack. Though if not I would go back to dark.
I keep lots of things in my hiking stuff high-viz. Normally the smaller harder to find things. Love my petzl headlight case, it's white and orange, and converts the light into a lantern!
I just bought two of the orange Klein boxes. I love that color orange! And my yellow and black Dewalt tools! 🤙🏾👊🏽😎
Yes, Flex has added wall mounts & folding shelves too. Still adding more items reminiscent of Packout, but starting to diverge a bit more with their tool pouches, etc.
I already have the Milwaukee but since retiring, I don't need many of them anymore. They are useless to me in the shop since they're priced much higher than typical conventional storage solutions like toolboxes with drawers, etc.
You thinking of selling ?
Are you really trying to hunt used boxes?
The soft rolling husky bags used to cost 50 bucks and die every 5 years. The milwaukee boxes are a bargain in the long run.
Though if I was keeping all my tools in my garage. I would condense and go for cabinets, drawers, and a peg board system here and there.
I'm a maintenance mechanic in NYC and I travel to 12 different properties in the city and I bought the packout thinking I'm gonna roll it all over the city streets. I realized it's too cumbersome and clunky to travel all day with. I ended up buying a tool bag and a really light weight but tough hand truck and bungee corded the bag to the hand truck. I really think the real test is the real world of walk up and down city streets all day. It's lot about wheel size,but design and durability.
you should look at Sortimo’s L Boxx system, it’s lightweight and they make a handcart
They're not made to travel a city just job site and toss in a truck. Are you just walking all over with your stuff?
I can say from first hand experience that the packout boxes are quite tough. I wrecked my truck rolling it over and my two stacks of packout were slung through the trees. I didn’t loose the first tool. There was some damage but nothing came open.
I’ve invested in the @toughbuilt boxes and I’m very very impressed with the durability and the locking technology they use on their boxes. Great stuff.
Great reviews and videos keep it up! As an electrician working in and out of a truck or van, Side attachments are far more trouble than any level of convenience it might provide. Something is always getting wrapped or hooked preventing the roll out bed from working. Or pulling extra stuff out.
Yeah, ive never seen anyone using any of that stuff, EVER in the real world, from any trade. The only place i could see that stuff being useful is for maybe a mechanic where they got some packout drawers rolling around.
My biggest problem with all those portable tool boxes is the handle length. I'm 6'4" and they all seem to be made for someone who is about 5'8". This means that when I'm pulling them I have to walk hunched over or the angle goes almost straight up and you look like an apprentice on the first day pulling your box. I wish that they would have something to lengthen the handles to make it more comfortable.
Agreed, they are kind of short for taller folks.
I totally agree. I am 6'5". What I do is I got a front mount from stacksmarter and it helps keep the stack weight balanced better and doesn't make your arm hurt for the long distances
Another 6’4” guy here, man it’s very annoying. I have the new Dewalt boxes, I literally tied a handle of paracord to the toolbox handle so that when I have boxes stacked to the top they’re not digging into my awkwardly bent wrist.
I'm 6'2" and things seem okay for me so far. Though I just got my stack higher than the bar and I wouldn't go too much higher without a strap or something as it all gets a bit wobbly. I do have a 6'4" wingspan, so it places my hand near a 6' 1" person on the hang.
Have you guys considered ditching the rolling box and getting the packout dolly? Or mounting a plate to one?
For anyone still reading, go check out fastcap magshims. They have changed my life and upped my game, you can even mix in playing cards to fine tune things or get the perfect offset and they hold the stack together! Seriously game changing and seriously cheap. They even got my father to tell me I do really good work and he's a perfectionist on a perpetual pursuit. It literally brought a tear to my eye. But seriously, you will have trouble fitting a single playing card in my scribe cuts, thanks to Fastcap's magshims.
Hey guys I might have found another solution. Milwuakee makes a full size dolly. It has packout attachment points and a 400lb capacity! It looks like the bar sits around 4.5-5 feet. There should be good space, it can hold levels between the boxes and the bar.
I did want 4 wheels, now I want that.
Thanks for the comparison brother! As a part time handyman, I still like the Milwaukee system and didn't really see anything that would want to make me change from that platform. I also like the fact that they don't do OEM parts just for the sheer fact that they are giving income opportunities to people that like to make things.
I bought feet for Milwaukee and atached them to Makita combo case. It works nice. Trybto make it work with other two systems.
Great review as always. I really like how you just don't gloss over everything but really review everything the items have to offer.
I appreciate that
You really should have looked at the Ridgid boxes. When I finally decided to buy some a few months ago, I looked at them all for weeks. The Ridgid boxes are heavy and seal tight and the price was unbeatable, even compared to Ryobi, DeWalt and Kobalt. The add-ons for these boxes are nice but they are just gimmicky to me. The Ridgid boxes are on sale again and I'm on my way to pick up a few more this morning.
@@echoshatter I can definitely see 2 or 3 of those in my future if they come out.
Flex is the winner in my opinion just for the fact that they thought to have rubber wheels and feet. It helps with not scratching floors. Can’t wait to get me a pack of my own.
I went with Toughbuilt, mainly to store auto detailing polishers and tools. Plan on a second set up for automotive repair tools. And Lowes is like Walmart, every where.
The new Toughbuilt setup, please do one on that when you can. I’m probably a year away from needing to replace my setup but they look really cool and I’ve been very impressed with the quality and ingenuity of the tools that they’ve released.
All these “outside the boxes” attachments give you the pack mule look.
Great video! It was nice to see a few different options. I currently use ridgid boxes, but am switching to Milwaukee (maybe Klein?) because the boxes detach from one another in the back of the truck. The ridgid boxes go together similar to the flex boxes, so I would watch out for that.
I have the Klein set and really like them. I’m a commercial and industrial electrician that does does tons of side work. I can take off my truck and keep everything I may need to do a job. I even have the new fastener cases Klein just came out with. Great for all the different types of hardware I may need. I got all my stuff free from my electrical supplier but all the boxes are good. Just buy whatever you like and you’ll be happy. But the Klein orange is best looking lol
That drawer set you showed is definitely up my alley but I wouldn't turn down these boxes! Thanks for review they are all useful!
The Toughbuilt Stack Techs are nice, the plastic feels strong enough to build a car with, definitely alot stronger than the plastic they use for cars. I just replaced all my Husky tool boxes and Kobalt Tool bag with most of the currently available Boxes and the tool tote. All the Dewalt and Craftsman tool boxes feel cheap and flimsy. The Flex ones are pretty cool. Toughbuilt is definitely my favorite and their hand tools are really nice too
Milwaukee changes their roller this past summer. You have an older one but the new roller the handle can be fully released.
All I can say for the additional external storage ideas. Things openly stored in view, tend to go missing on jobsites.
Out of sight, out of mind, there be heathens in our midst!
I’m just starting out and I find the information helpful that you give! Keep up the great work.
In my opinion the Milwaukee packout set is great but needs room for improvement. But if it free yea I would take anyone of these contenders. I'm new at woodworking and these would be a game changer for me and a true blessing God bless you
I know everyone want OEM parts from Milwaukee but think about this, we are all small businesses and we all depend on our niche to survive or provide supplemental income for our families. Honestly I applaud Milwaukee for not making the add ons as it provides many small time businesses a chance to do what they shine at. I myself am still struggling to get my shop going but only because I haven't found the thing that will sell for me in my area like these guys have.
I picked up the medium stackpack, the charger mount, the 3-battery holder, and the 41 pc impact bit set from FLEX. Let me say, I was super excited followed by disappointment to know it's awkward, annoying and the attachments for inside use of the case straight up don't work together. I'll upload a little video soon but for 150 bucks not including tools, the charger or batteries I'm kinda bummed because I thought this was the solution over red plastic
Thanks for this overview.
I invested in the Dewalt system years ago. They were good for travel. The humidity resistance and the pressure release is good too. Festool is good for a shop, but the hard plastic worries me.
I have started to use pack out for my shop - batteries and drills and drivers. I am also replacing the dewalt small parts containers - too fragile (maybe they are better now). The Milwaukee is more robust and the ability to stack on the wall is a big plus.
I think Festool's system has a bit of a different purpose. Festool's primary customer was the installer (cabinets, etc.). Their claim to fame was dust collection, which is very important in a customer's home. Their systainers were designed to transport tools, not necessarily parts (thought these came later). Each tool has its systainer set up for it so they aren't banged up during transport. Note the way Matt threw all of the tools together in these boxes. I wouldn't be doing that with my festools. Installers tend to know what tools they're going to need for a specific job so will only take them to the jobsite. They're not trying to carry the whole shop. If you look at their van setup, 1) you'll see how it all fits together, and 2) the price tag will choke you. The van is the cheap part. 🤑
I agree 100% with you about the hard plastic of the Systainer but I think the purposes of the systainer system is very different than these boxes. I agree that the Festool systainer works best around the shop. The hard plastic isn't as likely to get damaged, they protect the (expensive) tools, and the tools come with them. If they weren't part of the deal, I wouldn't pay $100+ for them.
I don't have any of these systems because I don't often take my tools anywhere and I don't see the need around the shop. I do have a couple of Ridgid bins that I use for junk in the back of my truck (bungees, etc.) but just a couple and I didn't intend them for tools. They're cool and I look at them when I have some time but for as little as I'd use these, I have better places to put the money.
@@kwilliams2239I love systainers. Way better than all these bulky 3 in 1 on wheel systems. I've got systainers, metalocs, metaboxes, and the Hitachi systainers. They all work together, whether locking together or just stacking. They all take up the same footprint on shelves. They're light and strong.
I use packout sorters tho, and keep batteries in a packout in the summer, bc they'll bake in a systainer
@@kwilliams2239i use Sortmo’s LBoxx for my tools, similar to Systainers. i prefer over pack out b/c they’re lightweight and still protect everything and make organizing easy. i don’t get why the pack out style boxes need to be so heavy and bulky
I love the Klein system (has great accessories), and would certainly chose it if I was adding storage, but since I retired (commercial/industrial electrician) I started downgrading/changing my storage. It no longer sees the abuse it once did now that I'm just a DiY'er, so I went with the Hart storage system from Walmart. It certainly is not as durable as Klein, Milwaukee or Flex, but it does a great job for me and it is much less expensive. It is actually better for my needs since it is much lighter than the heavier-duty storage systems making it easier to get up and down stairs, and/or in my truck or my wife's car. It has a lot of variety in box size and configurations including drawer units for my smaller hand tools, large compartments for my power tools and has nice clear-lid storage bins for my small parts/materials. It is similar to the "name" brands with small container inserts, etc. I highly recommend it for Do It Yourselfers, but I would probably not recommend it for professionals working every day. If you like to throw your storage boxes in/out/around the work truck or you routinely have employees who do not respect your equipment investments (we all have them), the plastic is just not thick/heavy enough. I would stick to Klein or Flex. Good luck!
Thanks a lot for pointing out the finer points of each system. 😊 I think the cup holder that won't spill your drink is cooler than all get out! It wouldn't make much difference to me. I always, or nearly so, do all my work in my garage. But Klein does have the greatest color in my opinion. I guess they all have ups and downs like all products do. I think I'd have to agree that Milwaukee has the best shop storage but being on a fixed income I couldn't afford any of them anyway. But you did give me some ideas of how to possibly store some things. Thanks again Matt! 😊😊😊❤❤❤
I joined milwaukee before Klein showed up @ home depot with their boxes. I do really like how robust the milwaukee boxes are. They might be a bit more than the old soft husky rolling bags I used to buy. But those bags disintegrate in 5 years flat.
I loathe external storage. It's just a way to advertise your tools to thieves when you clock out... the only external thing that caught my eye is a cord wrap. Though I don't like any I see. I just want a cord hanger, literally like a dowel to hang the cord from. I don't want to have to wrap up a cord around a box after having to wrap up the same cord that was strewn across the jobsite, that's redundant. Nor do I want to have to unwrap the whole cord from the box just to have to unwrap the cord again from my hands across the job the next morning...
I originally got involved with the Ridgid line before Milwaukee even though about building a box system and if my original system ever fails I would probably buy it again. It is far cheaper than the red box system.
It is no secret that I love Flex Tools. Before they released the Stack Pack system, I had a whole bunch of Packout boxes and I loved them. However, once Stack Pack came out, I bought them and sold all of my Packouts for the simple reason that I had all Flex tools and they work together much better. There are some areas where I still think Packout is better like the latching them together. An advantage Flex has is that they can connect backwards the same as forwards, which can be beneficial in some situations.
As far as the new releases, Flex has come out with some wall storage, though probably not better than Packout.
Loved the video, as always a very thorough review!
Thanks for sharing Tom!
Only thing i use my packout for is transporting my tools from my home shop to my cabin 2500 miles away. Don't need all the accessories like a workman at a job site does. I went the cheap route and got the kobalt. Under $180 and holds all my tools, batteries and chargers, and fasteners I need.
Was wondering why ryobi wasn't in the test then saw it was sponsored vid and obv not sponsored by home depot. Got some of the wall system for Christmas and I am liking it so far.
I use DeWalt tools, but I pack them in Milwaukee cases. And since the wood is brown, the 12 year old me feels like I'm mixing ketchup and mustard to then dipping a corn dog in it! LOL
I’m defiantly attached to Milwaukee. Whether they are behind or not I always feel I’m getting quality.
I've been trying to see decide on which system to go with, honestly at this point it's going to be toughbilt. They have the wall mounting system, bags that connect to the metal accessory rails along with other items and all of that attaches to their wall mount system including box to box to wall.
Having a micro shop and working out on job sites I need both sides covered and it looks like toughbilt is going to fill that role a little cheaper than the others though not much cheaper.
I used to in management at Lowes about twenty years ago, I'm not there because these changes in how they operate started back then and it's only gotten worse since. That is my one concern with buying toughbilt, dealing with Lowes and that's a 90 mile round trip for me if there's problems. The home depot isn't any better here and it's the same distance so it's a crap shoot either way.
While I prefer the front handle on the Flex rolling toolbox, I think the Toughbilt accessory attachment system offers more versatility. That and I already have a lot of Toughbilt stuff
You know where they should put an accessory mount? On the front of the middle and bottom boxes. There's room on the box, (I guess the Flex is the only middle box with a front handle? that might get in the way) and when you're rolling it, something on the front won't add to the width of things that can get snagged everywhere.
Milwaukee is designed around tradesmen that actually work on jobsites, not home gamers that should probably be using a standard roll cab with drawers.
Everything goes inside a box with a locking latch to keep out curious sticky fingers.
The DeWalt sistem is nice, but there's no way to lock the drawers so I'm heading out this morning to pull the trigger on a Packout set... I might have to paint it yellow tho...
You provide great reviews. Your comments and impressions are worth noting. Entering your giveaway was way too complicated. I had to watch three times to pick up the code words. Your had extra flash screens that were not code words, (*FLEX, CUSTOMIZABLE STACK PACK Bit Cases).
Nice video. Competition tends to raises all competitors. Flex seems to be the choice for accessory depth of selection off the shelf, agree Klein as you pointed out the best attachment system, Milwaukee because grassroots accessory community has best innovation through the community. I have a couple pcs of Milwaukee for travel with Trailer, good tough storage. Milwaukee did add a removable handle available shortly as an accessory for older units as well.
I think Milwaukee has a solid strategy. By letting the fanbase make all the exterior accessories.
Makes for more social media attention.
Great video as always Matt I don’t need any storage stuff for outside of the shop but I am really interested in the Milwaukee PAC out drawer storage like you have in your shop come in very handy and in something I would look into.
The Milwaukee has socket set that integrates with the PackOut system so that’s a big plus
Thank you for reviewing these
This makes me wonder if the rail side attachments of the Flex system will work with the Milwaukee Packout boxes by drilling a hole in the support and putting a bolt through with a nut on the back side of the Milwaukee box...
I might try this.
Great video! I am new to Woodworking, and I am still working on organizing my shop. You have some great ideas! I think the pack outs are very useful and would help organize my tools to use when building outside.
I use the milwaukee drawer packouts. They save alot of time.
I work out of both my home shop and a brewery and transport lots of different tools and im currently in dewalt but thinking of changing systems
I've had my DeWalt Tough System for near 10 years. Milwaukee was not the first.
I'd be happy to see you compare the Bosch boxes as well. I didn't even know they made them until recently.
Have you looked at the Dewalt Tough System? That what I have got years ago. I have the 2.0 but they have vehicle and wall racks.
Thanks for the great comparison. While I certainly understand mentioning Milwaukee not providing all these added rail accessories OEM, I don't see why it really matters. Whether you're money for those accessories is going to Milwaukee or any of the 3rd party supporters of the brand seems inconsequential. Unless all the rail accessories are coming with the purchase of the Flex or Klein boxes it doesn't really matter in the long run.(opinion!). Some might actually make a case for it being better that 3rd party has taken the Milwaukee system so far and will likely continue doing so. Once you're in the rolling box eco system it can be tough to switch though , so videos like this are incredibly useful. I started my rolling box journey with the Rigid Pro Gear system , mostly due it's low cost of entry , and have recently switched to Milwaukee due to the cabinet and drawer box options that were unavailable via Rigid(they did recently add 2 and 3 drawer options though). I'm not sure if Klein and Flex offer drawers or cabinet boxes. But those are excellent for shop and jobsite use. I often find I'm not having to pull off boxes to get to many of my tools thanks to the cabinet and drawers stacked over the rolling box. Now Rigid has added drawers that can actually be set @ the bottom since their 2.0 system allows for the wheel and handle to connect to any of the drawers or full size boxes. It's certainly worth looking @ the Rigid kit once again with that addition, plus the price is much better than the 3 systems covered in this video. It's still Milwaukee for the win in my eyes. Again , thank you for the very informative and helpful video. Keep up the good work!
Milwaukee, red is my fav. color.
Well I wasn't really watching for any words as I was looking at getting a pack out. So I watched your video. But I was still waiting on the hint hint, so for the *flex and Klein are they considered a modbox
I love Milwaukee pack out and Klein mod pack out and adding more accessories most of the time . I’m a diy and working on my electrical system and gaining more and more electrical tools as I am going to conquer this task I like your video am not worried about winning any of the pack outs . I like what you said about Milwaukee pack out system . I like the Milwaukee system a lot . Happy thanks giving. I did subscribe to your channel. Enjoy your holiday
I think another thing about buying a system to consider is parts. You buy from a system so you know you can get replacements and replacement parts, once you put it into your workflow. I notice right away, those hydraulic (pneumatic?) struts, on the klein? I see those wearing out. Can you get more? maybe. What if your milwaukee has a part break? can you get more? absolutely, probably for at least 20 more years, minimum. That plastic hook that grabs the box on the milwaukee? I can see that going. I know my systainers do break latches. It's the first thing to go. sure is nice just ordering more.
On a system, you can also scavenge parts from other worn out or broken tools. We do this a lot at work with our dewalt saw stands, because of the commonality of parts.
I like the toughbuilt stacktech. That’s what I ended up buying.
Wish i saw this video before...winning aome tool storage would be awesome
I just became a lead hvac installer but too broke for upgrades lolol
Great video!
I agree about getting drawers instead. If you're spending this kind of money on plastic boxes, why not spend a little more to get the ability to open them when stacked.
Thanks again for some great info!!
I love Klein man! I was so excited to see them branch out on their line of tools lately. That gorgeous orange ain’t bad either 😏
I def lust after the Packout System, but it's great to see everyone stepping up and creating storage/transport solutions. I have Milwaukee tools, but I really don't give a sh*t about "brand loyalty". I do have to stay within my battery platform, but everything else is up for grabs. Whatever works best. Or, maybe I'lll make my own stuff! If I could make the Makita coffee maker work on a Millwater M18 batt, I would!
They have adapters for that
Great view points on all 3 storage setups and I was blown away that you are making 3 families' day by giving each of those 3 sets away! I have put in my entries, and could certainly put a set to great use, so my fingers are crossed and my calendar page is marked. Also, I bought some Milwaukee Wall mounts and I use it to hang my long handle OPE tools like my Quik-lok string trimmer, pole saw, extensions, and rubber broom attachments, as well as my M18 and M12 battery packs. Very sturdy and easy to use. Good luck to everyone!
left out crasftsman. Do you like that one?
Channel lock made a lock box system like 12 years ago. They were the first I believe
The Klein will click all the way open you just have to keep pushing
I would go with Milwaukee because of the black and red color and I love the looks of the Milwaukee stuff over the others…. But that’s my opinion and preference…. Thanks for sharing and have a good day Matt….
Wow ! that would be pretty cool. I have been looking at a packout system to organize my shop . Flex does look great , they all do , Accessories so many options except on Milwalkee. Thank you for the video ! . Tough choice .
Do one with the drawers. I hate these that you have to get one out to get to the bottom. Thx.
dewalt tough system 2.0 is probably the best, the side handles on each box and the quick attachment is by far superior
I don't mind Milwaukee's aftermarket products. Simply because there are SO MANY options. I can do absolutely anything I want with it. Someone has made something for everything. I don't feel like any other system has that capability, OEM or Aftermarket.
I love your channel. I do wish you would share actual woodworking project though. You used to have brilliant projects that were truly inspiring.
When companies push to be the first to introduce new items they tend to step on thier own feet. I think that is what Milwaukee, Dewalt and Craftsman have doen with these pack out Boxes. They are now gonna go back to the drawing board and come up with some accessories. Keep up the great work Matt👽
Great video. Love your channel. Just retired and got back into woodworking. Thank you for your time. God Bless
Thanks for watching!
I have all 3 systems. Here’s some not mentioned facts. 1. The outside rails on the Milwaukee dents and bends easily if hit on the right angle, and you cant correct it back once bent. 2. If security is important to yo than go for the flex system because its less obvious in color but mainly because of the positioning of the padlock loop to secure the box. On both the Klein and Packout systems the loop is off centered making it easy to simply squeeze your hand in on the side opposite to the lock to gain limited access. Whereas with the flex there’s no front lifting handle lip to raise and the lock loop is in the center. Lastly overall the Flex in a more dense plastic and feels stable and adequate to sit on if need be. Not to say you could sit on the others, you definitely can tell the difference. Besides sitting on the surface of a Milwaukee would be anything buy comfortable in terms of emergency seating.
Cool vlog that you've done here. I'm a Milwaukee fan because I have all their tools and I do have to say is that I do have some Klein tools also too. So I'm sticking with the Milwaukee Packout for sure. One that I'm not going to do is go out and buy into a new storage system I think that I have to strongly agree with you on the accessory side that Milwaukee has to step up to the plate in this department for sure but overall Milwaukee has Pioneered this system right down to the tee. Now if someone is new getting into these type of storage systems then yes look at the other two brands but for me I'm not going to change because they don't make the little accessories. Keep up the great content 👏
They all look good and I'd like to use any of them. But I like the look of the Flex more. Not a fan of the bright colors (yet i use Ryobi , go figure).
I haven't seen you do many flex tool reviews. Anyway you can do some like the table saw, drill ,drivers, or any of the power tools they have?
Thanks. I plan on getting the table saw when it's available for purchase. I have the FLEX router and it's been great so far.
I just know whenever Milwaukee does come out with the accessories they gonna stay on top 🤙🏼
I hope you can get your hands on the ToughBuilt system soon. I love mine!
Great review Mighty Matt.
Thanks!
Did you put load in those boxes in the drop test? Milwaukee breaks every time when you have weight in them. I agree that Milwaukee has the best overall, however, it's costly, when you have to keep replacing cases because they break.
Nice video! I've thought about buying a pack out system mainly for shop organization with ease of taking tools to rental property.
I feel like klein should have made the sides metal. I feel like that plastic is gonna rip off when u hang things like rear handle saws off it. The accesories have metal but it attaches plastic to plastic. I tried hanging a saw off the rail and it flexed bad with my flex saw hanging off it (no pun intended) so i returned it and went with toughbuilt. I still own alot of packout but Im really liking the tb stacktech. The fact that u can customize without drilling or permenantly attaching accessories to it is great. Also packout lids indents go into the box unlike TB where the lids are flat across inside so u can fill to the top of the lid and it will close fine. Stack pack is great and tough but attaching the boxes can sometimes be annoying but once it attaches its good and strong. Also TB rails are metal so you unlike the other boxes you can attach and detach with ease things like magnetic levels, mag lights, mag trays etc... and there will be different sized drawers even single drawers coming out very soon.
Great review!👍🏼
On the pack out inside the case with the handle it has indentations inside for the Milwaukee fastener cases! They don’t clip in which would be nice! But the space accommodates the small container box.
I really like the external adds! That the others have. Milwaukee needs to step up and make it affordable!
For me. External add-ons are just asking for things to dissappear off the job.
It's much worse in commercial construction. I wouldn't trust a tape measure or razor knife outside my boxes when I'm not there.
I could maybe see a use for the magnetic bit holder, though get ready to lose bits too! Or some other small items, but the only thing I have found that interests me is an extension cord hanger.
I even keep trash bags inside my tool boxes these days. They fly out of the box like a money gun meeting a stripper!
I can see people who tend to setup a stationary work zone being more interested in the external stuff. They can setup and be near enough to thier boxes to make more add-ons make sense. My tools are normally centrally located 2 rooms away, where I can gather all the stuff together at the end of the day to lock up.
I went to pick up an online order at Lowe's and it took them 2 hours to find my items. Two 12' composite fascia boards. Twelve feet! How the hell do you misplace that?
Now I have an online order that's 4 days overdue at Home Depot, and of course no one knows anything. Lost a week getting a deck built so far.
Point being customer service can suck at either Home Depot or Lowe's.
Too bad the Tough Built wasn't included. I think they will have the most advanced system once the entire line is released by summer. The rolling base box with drawers looks like a sure winner to me. I think they should have lead with that to make a bigger splash entering the market.
Look at the husky storage boxes! They're great
I'm glad you called out Lowe's and Toughbuilt for their terrible customer service.
Certainly Lowe's saying there order ould be ready in an hour....still not ready 6 hours later and then giving you a general response of "STICK IT< WE DONT CARE" deserves an extra drive by next time I need something local for my shop...I'll just go to the Home Depot instead to make sure I do my part for "Every action there is a reaction"....in this case I'll be sure to give my $$ to their direct competitor....
As far as toughbuilt....I simply wont buy the brand....
Agreed. While I find that Menards c/s is routinely the worst of the lot, Lowes is nearly as bad. Sometimes it seems worse since I shop there so infrequently it feels like every time I shop there is a bad experience. I swear by Home Depot. We have two stores and both are excellent to deal with. I only use Lowes for very specialty items that I cannot find anywhere else. For example, they still honor my Craftsman tool warranty so I know I can take a broken ratchet to them for replacement.
Great Video! The Klein would be best for suited for my situation but, I do like all 3. Can we still win if WE pay for shipping? 😂 Keep the great videos coming!
Why no Ridgid or Dewalt? Always enjoy your videos! Thanks for the info.
Thanks for the video, great timing! Any opinions on DeWalt’s ToughSystem 2.0? On sale here in Canada this week..
I haven't used them too much. I do have one box that goes on top of the DeWALT dust extractor. It's well made.
That is my biggest problem is storage it's not easy to figure out how to put stuff and where to put it at when you're in a small shop
That's wild, at Home depot the ASM would get involved and you BET your ass they'd be picking your order or have 2-4 employees gather it ASAP.
Im just starting into woodworking. All 3 are nice boxes. What is everyone's thought on the harbor freight bauer box? Trying to look at budget friendly and something decent to help with storage as i get started...thanks for any input!
Good reviews lots to think about
Would love to see a StackTech review when you can get it. I’m really impressed with mine and I’d like to see what you think!
Not gonna lie, I was so close to buying the toughbuilt and was hoping you had some hate they dropped the ball as well as Lowe’s . Also, watched the video twice and only 2 secret words.
Dropped the ball not talking about the toughbuilt. If any has a chance to out shine packout the toughbuilt stack tech is the one.
I did talk about them. You just didn't watch the video 🤣
@@731Woodworks I watched the full video. You said you ordered the same day and drove 90 miles and they didn't have them ready. That is a huge deal don't get me wrong I would be mad too and lowes has bad customer service . They clearly show bias against the stachtech and flex as well and favor the klein as far as stocking ect. But the way you made it sound in the video is that you done almost no pre planning to get them. I feel like the video was lacking because of it.
@@taylanlowe120 I had the boxes in this video for a few weeks. Before filming I made efforts to get the Tough Built boxes. I bought them from two different Lowe's stores and neither store would fulfill the order. I tried to reach out to Tough Built themselves. Not sure what else I could do to get them. I would like to have had them in the video as well, but at some point I have to move forward instead of waiting around on Lowe's or Toughbuilt.