What Was Germany Secretly Doing in China Before WW2?

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    The Axis Powers of World War II were led by Germany, with Japan as a close ally. What few are aware of, however, is that right before that war broke out, the Germans were actually engaging in vicious combat with their future partner. Allied with the Chinese to defend continental China from Japan and from multiple warring factions within the country, famous generals such as Alexander von Falkenhausen courageously fought against Japanese aggression before they ultimately joined forces in 1937. China held out hope that Germany would send reinforcements, but they never came. Instead, von Falkenhausen was ordered back to Germany, but not before leaving his secret plans for the Chinese to defend against Japanese invasion...
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  • @scheimong
    @scheimong 4 ปีที่แล้ว +502

    John Rabe is to this day memorialised as a hero in China. You can still visit his old home in Nanjing today - the government decided to reroute a road to preserve it in 1999.

    • @icebaby6714
      @icebaby6714 4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      In 1948, the citizens of Nanking learned of the very dire situation of the Rabe family in occupied Germany and they quickly raised a very large sum of money, equivalent to US$ 2 000 ($ 21,000 in 2019). The city mayor himself went to Germany, via Switzerland where he bought a large amount of food for the Rabe family. From mid-1948 until the communist takeover the people of Nanking also sent a food package each month, for which Rabe in many letters expressed deep gratitude.

    • @ruicheng6521
      @ruicheng6521 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Thomas Rabe, GermanyJohn Rabe's grandson, is a professor at the University Hospital of Heidelberg. In 2020, after the outbreak of the Covid-19, he once asked the Chinese Embassy for help due to a shortage of local medicines and protective materials. The Nanjing municipal government quickly raised a batch of anti-epidemic materials, including masks, anti-epidemic drugs and protective clothing, and arrived at the Chinese Embassy in Germany on the April 20th. The Embassy drove the epidemic prevention materials to Heidelberg on the April 21st.

    • @hubertsealy8694
      @hubertsealy8694 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      hhhh&h

    • @etbuch4873
      @etbuch4873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Please visit this video for a succinct recount of John Rabe and his old house still standing in Nanjing.
      Stories shared by Xi Jinping | Diaries of John Rabe (New China TV, Aug 15, 2019), th-cam.com/video/Stm9Ckn5Rmw/w-d-xo.html
      P.S. Thanks to Chameleon Scheimong for the tips, hence the search for the stories about John Rabe. Thanks again.

    • @vigilantobserver8389
      @vigilantobserver8389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ruicheng6521 That is amazing. After all this time, not only do they remember, but it also transcends politics.

  • @harrisonqu8359
    @harrisonqu8359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +572

    So ironic, the first country to help China against the aggression of Japan was Nazi Germany. I am glad this part of history is finally getting more recognition.

    • @battledroid224
      @battledroid224 4 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      Not all Germans at the time were Nazis. And not all Nazis knew what their party did to others.

    • @helliswar
      @helliswar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@battledroid224 shut your propaganda down

    • @Getoffmycloud53
      @Getoffmycloud53 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      BL人CK J凡CK you do know that Germany only became Nazi Germany in 1933, right? You also know that the Weimar Republic had good relations with the Soviet Union? Do you know the outcome of the last three free general elections in Germany before the final Nazi controlled election? Who’s uninformed here? Back to the topic, even this item is clear that the Nazi government was divided on their China policy.

    • @Inception1338
      @Inception1338 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@helliswar nothing wrong with his statement.

    • @chrisfrank6625
      @chrisfrank6625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      -Y U B A- -T H E I I- someone doesn’t enjoy a taste of truth every once in a while.

  • @SSSoldat
    @SSSoldat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    In fact, China and Germany were quasi-allies in the 1930s. General von Seeckt served as the general military adviser of the Chinese government, then General Alexander von Falkenhausen actually performs the duties of the chief of general staff of the Chinese army. At that time, China wanted to learn from Germany in an all-round way. China had planned to set up 60 divisions imitating the German Wehrmacht, but unfortunately until the outbreak of the Japanese invasion of China, China only had time to form about 10 German-style divisions, of which only 3 divisions had completed basic training. China trades tungsten ore with Germany in exchange for weapons and equipment - a trade that benefited both countries. German military advisers and German weaponry helped China survive the most dangerous period, this is why many Chinese always have a good feeling and respect for Germany. China is rich in tungsten, rare metals and manpower, which are urgently needed by Germany in World War II - Germany should have chosen to be allied with China, so in this way, the tragic end of World War II will be the opposite.

  • @Musicreach101
    @Musicreach101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +551

    I would have gotten an A in history if dark docs was my teacher.

    • @adambaker4745
      @adambaker4745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Doubt it

    • @TM-bn8pv
      @TM-bn8pv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Only for a research project on a history subject you could choose to cover.

    • @krisfrederick5001
      @krisfrederick5001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Your teacher would have been watching too.

    • @tariqphoto
      @tariqphoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      id talk just like this in class and the teacher would have been well impressed.

    • @manz7860
      @manz7860 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      My history teacher was a flaming liberal that was trying to teach us that Hiroshima was a war crime. I was the one of the 3 that made a presentation on how it was totally justified
      Lol ditched the last semester and still aced the final

  • @talijamir5395
    @talijamir5395 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Fact that Japan never help Germany through out ww2

    • @bargainbassist
      @bargainbassist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      But the Japanese Imperial Army did, in fact, greatly help the PLA by fighting a war of annihilation against the Kuomintang, weakening it to the point where it could no longer prevent the communist takeover of China. Mao and his totalitarian bully boys basically stood back while the Chinese army was brutally dismantled by Imperial Japan, then stepped in after the Sino-Japanese war ended to fill the void.

    • @aAverageFan
      @aAverageFan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bargainbassist The Nationalists were in power in China and they had more resources and manpowers to fight against the Japanese whereas the Communists didn't have such resources or manpower but still they fought guerrilla warfare against the Japanese.

    • @fidelcastro1424
      @fidelcastro1424 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mao Zedong won not because of Japan, but because at that time the farmers were already under Mao Zedong's control. He controlled the villages to blockade the cities, so the 4 million Kuomintang troops were unable to fight the communist party.
      Vietnam and Afghanistan were also inspired by Mao Zedong's peasant guerrilla strategy.

  • @majorcalvary6515
    @majorcalvary6515 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    General Falkenhausen was a very honorable man, and was very much respected by Chinese.

  • @tomriley5790
    @tomriley5790 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    i wouldn't describe Germany and Japan as close allies - more allies of convenience, they missed lots of oppourtunities to work together for mutual benefit (e.g. a Simultaneous attack on Russia)

    • @KaDaJxClonE
      @KaDaJxClonE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wouldve been helpful to use german U boats in the pacific to destroy the remaining American carriers.
      If Japan didnt have a hard enemy like America in the pacific they may have been able to invade Russia by a massive air movement.

    • @j.jwhitty5861
      @j.jwhitty5861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@KaDaJxClonE The Japanese proved how useless they were in reality while fighting the Russians in the east long before the U.S entered the war, doubt a massive air movement would have fared any better.

    • @unpricedhydra3492
      @unpricedhydra3492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@j.jwhitty5861 japan didnt attack russian in the end the russians attacked japan

    • @j.jwhitty5861
      @j.jwhitty5861 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@unpricedhydra3492 They did because if my memory serves me right the Japanese began invading the Kuril islands and were getting to close for Russian comfort.

    • @Tyler-zq7qt
      @Tyler-zq7qt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@j.jwhitty5861 fun fact: Japan and the Soviet Union never officially made peace

  • @thebrocialist8300
    @thebrocialist8300 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    “What sort is Hitler? A weeaboo?”
    - Joseph Goebbels (The Goebbels Diaries, 1936)

  • @1bottlejackdaniels
    @1bottlejackdaniels 4 ปีที่แล้ว +274

    watch the movie "John Rabe" (2009) with Steve Buscemi ...it's about a german nazi businessman creating a protective international safety zone during the Nanking-massacre 1937. he rescued more than 200.000 chinese civilians.
    the bombardment-scene with the Swastika flag is intense...

    • @Yisi.voyager
      @Yisi.voyager 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Pretty good real story

    • @kanesmith8271
      @kanesmith8271 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Yisi.voyager true

    • @政斌-x8k
      @政斌-x8k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Check out the movie "Flower of war"

    • @randomalien7746
      @randomalien7746 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@政斌-x8k with Christian Bale

    • @icebaby6714
      @icebaby6714 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      John Rabe is the hero, a Nazi hero in China.

  • @blumpfreyfranks8863
    @blumpfreyfranks8863 4 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    There are quite a few pictures of Chinese troops wearing German uniforms and helmets with German weapons, but the fact that there is very little coverage on these kind of troops is a bit disappointing

    • @markfryer9880
      @markfryer9880 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Yes, I can remember reading a history book, I think that it was at school in the 80s, and wondering why a Chinese soldier was wearing a German style helmet? It just seemed so bizarre and I don't recall if it was adequately explained in the text. All I know is that I can vaguely recall the posed photo which was a head and shoulders photo of the soldier standing guard. Funny the things that you can remember.

    • @robmx2324
      @robmx2324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I kind of wonder how long after Germany decided it ally them selves with Japan. Did the Chinese National Army decide to replace the German uniforms?

    • @robmx2324
      @robmx2324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @BLACK BOTO Are you an expert in this field? LOL

    • @blueycarlton
      @blueycarlton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      These are just uniforms. The Spanish army were wearing German style uniforms and helmets in the early 70's.

    • @robmx2324
      @robmx2324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@blueycarlton they were initialy supplied to Franco by Germans back in the thirties. Along with Aircraft and tanks too. I saw them too back in the late 1970s and early 1980s. The soldiers wore them whike guarding government and military buildings. They may have been fazed out after the failed coup to restore a Franco style of government. Or they may be still using them today. I don't know.

  • @linsimon4904
    @linsimon4904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I, a Chinese nationalist, thank Germany for helping us resist janpanese aggression

  • @鷙-l5f
    @鷙-l5f 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Most Chinese prefer German products

  • @janusjones6519
    @janusjones6519 4 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    There's nothing secret about this. Sino-German cooperation prior to ww2 was well documented and taught in Chinese history classes, but just not very well publicised and known in the west.

    • @LukeDodge916
      @LukeDodge916 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      ...hence the reason this video is necessary?

    • @mopar_dude9227
      @mopar_dude9227 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Janus Jones it was taught in the US, or at least at my school, 30+ years ago. At the rate that history is being erased, future generations won’t even know about WW2.

    • @DoubleMonoLR
      @DoubleMonoLR 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LukeDodge916 Sure, but the title isn't accurate.

    • @gustini2146
      @gustini2146 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Likewise with Mexico too oddly enough

    • @yellowpete79
      @yellowpete79 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LukeDodge916 your logic is faulty. The title is still misleading.

  • @Kynos1
    @Kynos1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    Look up "Chiang Wei-kuo". Interesting story. A Chinese man in an elite German mountain division (with expert marksman badge), who took part in the annexation of Austria and almost took part in the invasion of Poland.

    • @政斌-x8k
      @政斌-x8k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah, he was sort of a rare Chinese "Nazi"

    • @Kynos1
      @Kynos1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@政斌-x8k He was not a Nazi. He went to Germany to get his military training.
      Germany at that time still considered continuing its cooperation with China but changed sides when it became clear that Japan and not China would be the dominant power in Asia.

    • @Nomnomnomiana
      @Nomnomnomiana 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow thats so cool! Thank you ☺️

    • @WhiteCamry
      @WhiteCamry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Ja Ma He was Chiang Kai-shek's adopted son

    • @seylavorn2713
      @seylavorn2713 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      PugnaciousBadger Jimi

  • @dontran391
    @dontran391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Too bad after Germany join forces with Japan, china no longer received German Wehrmacht equipment.
    Otherwise we could have see the Chinese army using German made tiger tanks (both tiger 1 and king tiger models), panther tanks and even the German me262 fighter jets.
    Should china able to obtain the German Wehrmacht later equipment, they may make the Japanese felt overwhelmed.

  • @cosuinofdeath
    @cosuinofdeath 4 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    Damn this channel is great

    • @HighSpeedNoDrag
      @HighSpeedNoDrag 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes Indeed.

    • @andrewwright.
      @andrewwright. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I found it not long ago, very good content.

    • @blameusa7082
      @blameusa7082 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeh after a few years you will realize its BS

    • @8bitorgy
      @8bitorgy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's gonna suck when TH-cam takes it down

  • @爸爸-r2c
    @爸爸-r2c 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I heard about this man's story when a chinese general came to our school and gave a speech.
    I'm a Nanjing citizen.

    • @AB-wf8ek
      @AB-wf8ek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @雅典第一公民伯里克利 eh? If she lives in Nanjing and has legal status then she's a citizen

    • @censored3839
      @censored3839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wtf. your definition doesn't mention political rights you clown just normal rights

  • @mileshigh1321
    @mileshigh1321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    What interesting history not many people,including myself, have heard off! THanks for sharing!

    • @Otokichi786
      @Otokichi786 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look up Bernhad Kast and Military History, or even Indy Neidell and the World War II channels. "Chinese Panzers" would then be no surprise.

  • @Bytional
    @Bytional 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The history revisionism in the west makes lots of younger generation largely ignorant about the WW2 besides Europe.
    This is no secret in China, everyone has been taught of this in class, even in that time, both governments were open about this cooperation, and Japan and US also knew about this, German advisers operated openly in China, before and during the WW2.

    • @Bytional
      @Bytional 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@patrickglaser1560 WAT? which country are u from, where the history of ww2 isn't part of your public school education program?

    • @dorrisgonnawreckyou7111
      @dorrisgonnawreckyou7111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Bytional We learn more about WW1 in the UK than WW2, atleast in public schools. But then we learn very little of anything in "history" which in my time was considered such a pointless lesson they merged it with geography into "humanities" a single lesson of which i remember basically nothing lol. Shame really, Dont think it is revisionist as they replace it with nothing, just guesse not many people care about history over here. Untill we get older and look into it ourselves.

    • @MWcrazyhorse
      @MWcrazyhorse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@patrickglaser1560 Israel?

    • @henrybleisch9025
      @henrybleisch9025 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its not that its revisionism if your from states that are required to tech parts of history its not rewritten but the basics are taught you wont learn about the entire war but you can learn about it for extra credit with a good teach. This doesnt make much difference but does make the German all look like terrible people. People were different back then but definitely the us doesn't outright lie to people again i learned History in a state that is very multicultural. Its hard budge for international history. So you just learn us history. They rest is for people to learn if they really care.

  • @雨观莲
    @雨观莲 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    我是一名中国人,看到评论区有朋友提到拉贝先生,我们非常感激这位德国朋友,在最危难的时候帮助了我们,其实德国并不全都是纳粹,很多人都有很强的正义感和道德,例如奥斯卡辛德勒也是,真心希望全世界和平相处,放下偏见与仇恨,愿世界和平。

    • @johnhanser2313
      @johnhanser2313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @雅典第一公民伯里克利 🦶🏻🦶🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻

    • @ffzhang-on4ye
      @ffzhang-on4ye ปีที่แล้ว

      6啊中国人

  • @Defconfx
    @Defconfx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Hitler blundered here, China has vast resources. It would have made a far superior Ally to Japan, as the coming mechanized war would have been greatly aides by rubber, steel, and petrol from the East, and with a German hand guiding them, would have been a formidable force, as well as possibly forcing Stalin into a two front war...

    • @williambinkley8879
      @williambinkley8879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Defconfx the problem would be how to get the resources from China to Germany. Britain and the US controlled the shipping routes between the two countries.

    • @wafasafder4624
      @wafasafder4624 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They tried but Japanese kicked them Germans in WW1

  • @edison7300037
    @edison7300037 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    german not only sent military advisors to china, but also allowed china to send cadets to the Kriegsschule(war school). these young men later became the back bone of the combat officers.

  • @testysoviet12120
    @testysoviet12120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Love how the sponsor/ad is Japan Airlines 😂

    • @Bj-yf3im
      @Bj-yf3im 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ptan6889
      @ptan6889 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      哈哈哈

    • @_bubulance_
      @_bubulance_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      testysoviet12120 Airforce*

    • @peekaboopeekaboo1165
      @peekaboopeekaboo1165 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe Japan Airlines noticed the amount of China bashers subscribers and followers of this channel?

    • @mthreewit8691
      @mthreewit8691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ...Wow

  • @sherlock9397
    @sherlock9397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I my mind hitter should have helped China, Japan’s only befits are it’s navy and Air Force, that would keep the Royal Navy Busy and the other allies in the area, but if China was his ally he would have more man power and a possible entry into Vladivostok, and if China could develop under supervision it would, it be able to supply Germany for, being the factory it is today

  • @LudosErgoSum
    @LudosErgoSum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Let's commemorate the 14 million Chinese that died during the War, and show our respect to a forgotten Allied member and it's contribution to winning the war 🇨🇳

    • @TheHelghast1138
      @TheHelghast1138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed

    • @PSIponies
      @PSIponies 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Should be a Republic of China flag. That's the China who fought. Communist China was busy stabbing the KMT in the back, picking up their guns, and preparing to kill them after the war had one. They barely fought at all. Fuck Mao.

    • @BoxStudioExecutive
      @BoxStudioExecutive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wrong flag

    • @zhousteven188
      @zhousteven188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LudosErgoSum you used the wrong flag there bud. Back then it was the Republic of China that ruled over all of China, not the Communist

    • @qiyuxuan9437
      @qiyuxuan9437 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PSIponies Dude, stop this nonsense, they did it together. You can literally find Japanese documents which mentioned Japanese army was also fighting with CCP troops. Some CCP troops during the war even renamed and join command with KMT troops during that time.

  • @julianfoot8748
    @julianfoot8748 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    The Chinese Emperor Xuantong (Puyi) was alive throughout this period just powerless, became a Japanese puppet and he died in 1967 as a gardener in Beijing. There are several errors in this particularly with the warlord period.

    • @datawasatreacherousandroid6509
      @datawasatreacherousandroid6509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      julian foot I refuse to consider him a Chinese Emperor. The regime he inherited was a foreign occupation no different than his so-called Manchuria government imposed by Japanese invaders.

    • @niubi3923
      @niubi3923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@datawasatreacherousandroid6509 Are you chinese? Yes, he's not han chinese, but he's still chinese nationality

  • @Just_Johnnie
    @Just_Johnnie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nazi and China was very close. Just look at the equipment used by Chinese army at the time.

  • @carbinephantom
    @carbinephantom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This (as with so many others) was a great episode. The hidden layers of alliances and moves and counter moves leading up to the war is fascinating. So much of this information gets lost in the mix with most focusing on the big campaigns and battles of the war. Really enjoyed this one.

  • @studinthemaking
    @studinthemaking 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Check out a book called: dirty little secrets of war world 2.

    • @HighSpeedNoDrag
      @HighSpeedNoDrag 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And "Soldiers of Misfortune"

    • @daleslover2771
      @daleslover2771 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you get a chance check out World War 2 Super facts.

    • @studinthemaking
      @studinthemaking 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dale Slover Is that a book?

  • @Idahoguy10157
    @Idahoguy10157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I’d heard about German advisors in China. I didn’t know the extent of involvement

    • @Switch_Hitta_Beats
      @Switch_Hitta_Beats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      *Extent

    • @morbid747
      @morbid747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You didn't know the US had spy listening posts in China during the cold war with the Soviets. China used to be called the good communist after Nixon . These were hardly talk by the msm.
      The western msm now demonize China because it is becoming an economic and military competitor today , just like Japan in the 1970's.

    • @brianlong2334
      @brianlong2334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Germany also wanted resorces China had a lot I believe China suplied Germany with 8 to 12million tons of tungsten every year from 33 to 38.

    • @qiyuxuan9437
      @qiyuxuan9437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@morbid747 Yep, U.S almost sold F16 fighter jet to China during 1980s....U.S also sold the S70 helicopters to China, and those were still in use today.

    • @rvwalktour2627
      @rvwalktour2627 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      chang kaishek's 2nd son was once a nazi officer. kknews.cc/military/xmnapeq.html

  • @krisfrederick5001
    @krisfrederick5001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Just when you think you know everything, never ends.

    • @jasminmis5207
      @jasminmis5207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Do you ever think just how much money germany owe to china for war reparition,they still owe 200 billion dollars to serbian peopole for WWII crimes and damages,and they still didn't pay.PS:Where is a debt collector when you need one?

    • @tigoid
      @tigoid 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasminmis5207 those war reparations will likely never be paid. Unreasonable War reparations are also one of the reasons Germany started ww2

    • @pictobloxer5412
      @pictobloxer5412 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jasminmis5207 It'd be funny if Germany gave the reparations to the PRC instead.

  • @sa-lt8ks
    @sa-lt8ks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The world has alot of secrets. And the secret alliances are why this could be a great movie

  • @BHuang92
    @BHuang92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Alot of Chinese weapons captured by the Japanese during the first phases of the Second Sino-Japanese war was German equipment. Rifles, cannons, grenades and even tanks. The Panzerkampwagen I Ausf. A tanks were sent over and used by the Republic of China. When the Japanese captured those tanks, they had one sent over to Japan labeled as "Russian tank".

  • @WolfgangVonKempelen838
    @WolfgangVonKempelen838 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Political machinations as per normal: "War is the continuation of politics by other means." Carl von Clausewitz 1780 - 1831

    • @hang_kentang6709
      @hang_kentang6709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you can also interpret it as; if diplomacy failed, the consequences could be war. hence why it is important to have some cool headed leaders.

    • @WolfgangVonKempelen838
      @WolfgangVonKempelen838 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hang_kentang6709 Agree, but are those leaders present at the moment ?

    • @hang_kentang6709
      @hang_kentang6709 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WolfgangVonKempelen838 let history be the judge of that.

  • @jpmtlhead39
    @jpmtlhead39 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember seing old footages abaut The Sino-japonese wars, And seing chinese troops in full Wermacht gear, even The famous helmet. And i always Wonder, what Nazi Germany was doing in China, years before The ww2. With The Internet i found it.
    And also, thanks to channels like this one, that i Love.
    Good job.

  • @johnwayne6501
    @johnwayne6501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    you makes some great videos. Do you have one where why Great Britain and France didn't declare war on Russia when the attack Poland 3 weeks after Germany did?

  • @steve44xds
    @steve44xds 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    went China in 2017. I forget where I was but I crossed a bridge and on the entrance pillars there was the nazi swastika

    • @kristinwest151
      @kristinwest151 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting I wonder who put it there 🤔

    • @ichachari
      @ichachari ปีที่แล้ว

      maybe you just saw the “卍 ” this is not nazi ! It's a symbol means fire and sun in ancien China and it reads “wan” in chinese

    • @aAverageFan
      @aAverageFan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Swastika is a Buddhist symbol in China

  • @fsh3702
    @fsh3702 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If China joined forces with Nazi during WWII, that would be disastrous for the allied forces, just cannot imagine the consequences.

    • @kaiyungisraellee5582
      @kaiyungisraellee5582 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wang Jinwei joined , but was too far for no match with the Allied Forces.

    • @fsh3702
      @fsh3702 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaiyungisraellee5582 Yeah, I almost forget that, wang jingwei was basically Japanese lapdog, no consequential threat.

  • @adamfrazer5150
    @adamfrazer5150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DARK : Just going to say it, I think you're far too established as a top-shelf channel to be using the 'big red arrow / big red circle' stuff on your thumbnails - not meaning to criticize, I just think you're way above it.

  • @unerone4155
    @unerone4155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In 30 years from now when these videos are made during 90s-2000s I wonder what the video will show. As there is no videos like these from back in the day. These clips are like time traveling and are REAL evidence. Nowadays footage like these don’t come by as often

  • @charles-davidberube1174
    @charles-davidberube1174 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This moment in history is so underrated, i truly believe china would have been a better asset than japan. First: they would not have attacked the usa, leaving them out of ww2 and preventing the opening of a western front in Europe. Second: China would not have become communist and would have fought against japan with the usa making sure japan would have lost much faster. Third: the non agression pact with russia and germany would not have been important since russia had no intentions to attack germany.
    I swear, this might have tipped the balance into the german favour, granting them eventual victory against britain and russia being free to use the western front armies to defeat russia. Sure, it would have been hard to defeat russia but there would have much more german, italian, bodies and possibly Chinese bodies.

    • @juanlu3958
      @juanlu3958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Back then KMT WANTs TO create a DEMOCRATIC China,they won't take side with Nazi.

  • @MichaelGGarry
    @MichaelGGarry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Which is also why Chiang Kai-shek's adopted son was an officer in the German Army before being recalled to China in 1939. As a tank commander he was part of the Austrian Anschluss.....

  • @chiwong2612
    @chiwong2612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Many Asian people such as Chinese, Japanese, Indonesians, Thais and Hindus went to Germany for military training in early 1920. There was a Sino-German co-operation program with China and Germany. It ended when Hitler made friends with Japan in 1941. When the war broke out in 1939, many of these Asian German soldiers remained in Germany and fought till the end of the war while some chose to return to the own countries instead.

  • @2.7petabytes
    @2.7petabytes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Excellent doc as usual! I for one, fully enjoy the narration! Keep it up!!

    • @s.roberts3839
      @s.roberts3839 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      A little quick, but you can watch what you may have missed.

  • @jefpduct8725
    @jefpduct8725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow!!! I never knew Germany was there.

    • @SeventhCereal
      @SeventhCereal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Of course, you had a filtered history, quite similar to the filtered fake news of today. It doesn't fit with the narrative that the nazis were about racial superiority so this detail was conveniently omitted. Same way you can never find a positive fact on Donald Trump from CNN. Chinese were actually viewed as honorary Aryans. The true fact of the matter is the imperialists colonized half of the world and committed untold suffering N times worse than the holocaust. When they tried to colonize germany after WW1 by taking land/breaking up germany (recall it was the free state of danzig that led to invasion of poland), debased the mark with hyperinflation, that was when all hell broke lose and Hitler gave the colonists a taste of their own medicine. Hitler actually completely reversed the course on imperialism and ended up freeing half the world from imperial slavery and is a big hero in countries like India.

    • @MWcrazyhorse
      @MWcrazyhorse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Germany is everywhere.

  • @hiyukelavie2396
    @hiyukelavie2396 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2:24 "(KMT)... led by generalissimo Sun Yat Sen"
    Bruh
    Everyone gangsta until Sun Yat Sen becomes generalissimo

  • @simoc24
    @simoc24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very informative, learn something today :) thanks

  • @OO-Wind
    @OO-Wind 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thankyou for mentioning the nanking massacre, as the Japanese government are still refuse to admit the war crime untill today

  • @helpfulliving
    @helpfulliving 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Like your videos, very informative. One suggestion, please read your copy more slowly. There is no need to read it so fast. You plow through some great information way too fast. Thanks for putting this stuff out there.

  • @justme197511
    @justme197511 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Interesting history
    My first thought was Uhhh, recruiting. We have a winner in right corner the Japanese.

  • @natem.9208
    @natem.9208 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Legitimate emperor Yuan Shikai."

  • @darrenchang2907
    @darrenchang2907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The most thorough account on the Sino-German cooperation prior to ww2 (or during the early phase b/c Chinese count 1937 as the beginning of wwii)! Some of the footage doesn't match with the narrative. For example Zhou En-Lai appeared at 1:13. He should have come up much later during the Xi'an Incident.

  • @hyltoniali257
    @hyltoniali257 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The helmets of the KMT Nationalist army explained everything

  • @william2chao
    @william2chao 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Japan invaded China 1931. Only German helped. The best Chinese troops are equipped with German weapon. The best troops are trained by German instructors. Until 1941, WW II broke out.

  • @siriusgd4753
    @siriusgd4753 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I don't know where you get your material but you are way better than the history channel ever was. I really enjoy your videos.

  • @Hebdomad7
    @Hebdomad7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I feel like this is a lost episode of the History Guy...
    "Forgotten history, that deserves to be remembered..."
    Really makes you wonder how different the world might be if the nazis never got in power before WW2 broke out and the Germans sided with the Chinese to fight the Communists and Japanese.

    • @kealinharkness7990
      @kealinharkness7990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Phill *insert two front attack on soviet union* *insert shocked pikachu face as soviets*

  • @Hermit-Crab
    @Hermit-Crab 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    All I can say about these Germans: very honourable.

  • @twilightstruggle8390
    @twilightstruggle8390 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chinese Nationalist Party had bought 18 Panzer I tanks from Nazi Germany. Unfortunately they were all lost during the defence of Nanjing.

  • @DefinitelyNotHidan
    @DefinitelyNotHidan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wondered how the Chinese felt after hearing that the Japanese joined the Axis Power which is a alliance with Germany and Italian

  • @petercua6158
    @petercua6158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is the first time I heard about this. Thanks for the history.

  • @ashrunilroy5207
    @ashrunilroy5207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unless these videos are created and uploaded just for the sake of doing so, they should be created with an important point in mind. This is not a competition of speaking English as fast as you can and no laurels and accolades earned.

  • @Morxur
    @Morxur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine the difference in the ww2 if they weren’t beating each other up before and Japan was actually a good teammate during

  • @mr.j559
    @mr.j559 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    can you do a videos on the ww2 nazi bell

  • @dennisbrucemasayon786
    @dennisbrucemasayon786 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Chinese be like: we need german advisors!
    Also chinese: NO! we will not listen to you! We will do what we want!

  • @williambinkley8879
    @williambinkley8879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    One of your more interesting subjects

  • @hermitcrabband1208
    @hermitcrabband1208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Germany sending military expert to China to help koumintang party fight against Japanese, even the Japanese was German allies. The reason is is simple, because Germany fear if China fallen into Comunist and become Soviet biggest allies, so they use two method, first they support Japanese in China, Second, the send military expert to China if Chinese people never surrender esily. And they did it. 1945 when Japanese surrender without conditions the Kuomintang party take over the China Government. At that time American didn't realise the real problem China will face, when everything is to late to US take action, China becomes Comunist party, and all china nationalist move to Taiwan.

  • @fajarcahyono3693
    @fajarcahyono3693 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If Axis Powers win WWII, the cold war event would happen between Germany and Japan

  • @kongthai..
    @kongthai.. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The CCP military wasn't as threatening as the street people. The PLA was only an excuse not to commit the core 88 divisions with superior armaments. Politics in 1927 to 1976.
    A lot of confusion by American historians. China knew USA cannot cause trouble in such an ANCIENT NATION with MEGA CAPACITIES.
    🤗

  • @majorcalvary6515
    @majorcalvary6515 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are wrong about China never sent troops to battle. Yes, officially they never fought. They did send troops to Western Front, but British deemed them not battle ready, rule over French who welcomed the Chinese. The troops instead worked with Allied Engineers worked on building trenches and roads. Many did get killed despite their non-combat roles.

  • @Cybonator
    @Cybonator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And that's why the Chinese army still has a Prussian-style Goose-step march

  • @JonAllenMichael
    @JonAllenMichael 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please don't start doing clickbait shit like having a red arrow point at nothing on the title picture but making it seem like it's going to be the central part of the story... that's an instant unsub from me if this keeps up...

  • @StalinTheMan0fSteel
    @StalinTheMan0fSteel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great video, I love all these little eccentricities from history.

    • @jenniferharrell7818
      @jenniferharrell7818 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely!! Me too! This is a great channel for that

  • @shidgermao4466
    @shidgermao4466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Japanese Empire is an abnormal war machine controlled by military governments. Unlike Nazi Germany, where Nazi Party government controlled the military force, Japanese Empire was directly controlled by its military force. The Japanese Mikado (Emperor) , although engaged in making Japan's expansion and invasion plan, was a figurehead in general. The lack of a strong administrative government lead to Japan's blind military action during the WW2 and the whole nation was split by the divergence of opinion between the Japanese Navy and Army. Before 1939, Japanese Army prevailed for consecutive victory in China. However, Japanese Army couldn't afford to maintain the supply lines in China as frontlines went furthur so the war between China and Japan entered a deadlock after 1939, and that's when Japanese Navy started to overpower Japanese Army. After the failure in the battle of Nomonhan, Japanese Army gave up the plan to invade Russia and the Navy became the leading power in military government, which was followed by the Pearl Harbour incident. However, although Japanese Army compromised with the Navy, it didn't offer much help to the Navy and only a few troops were sent to join the Pacific War. The Army group still wanted to re-run the junta so they kept most of the force in China, hoping to overwhelm China to surrender. China was a poor agricultural country with civil wars going on for decades when WW2 happened, but it's still too greedy for a island country like Japan with poor natural resources and short industrilization history to conquer Asia and the Pacific at the same time, the largest continent and ocean on the planet.

  • @terencewinters2154
    @terencewinters2154 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kuomintang were good paying german customers for war materials but von falkenhausen was behind the axis tripartite political shift so he was recalled so japan could have it's way with the kuomintang

  • @jig-ga
    @jig-ga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Falkenhausen a man of honor a true knight.

  • @robertrichard6107
    @robertrichard6107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is an important work missed in American History I believe since Congress shot down joining the Leauge of Nations, and Russia/ USSR was not invited to Versailles. It made me think of that old McQueen movie 'The Sandpiper'. This work reveals somewhat why FDR ignored what Japan was doing until it was beneficial for the U.S. to cut off their oil exports to them.

  • @wilhelm979
    @wilhelm979 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find it odd when Hitler made both Chinese and Japanese Honorary Aryans.

  • @Bkings7
    @Bkings7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yuan shikai wasn't the legitimate emperor that would have been puyi

    • @tvgerbil1984
      @tvgerbil1984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When Empress Dowager Longyu signed the abdication on behalf of the five-year-old boy Emperor, Puyi, on 12th Feb 1912, there is no legitimate Emperor of China after that.

  • @onihacked
    @onihacked 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know I was told by my uncle a story about how during mid WW2 hitler came close to getting military aid from the warlords in terms of hundreds of thousands soldiers on the ground for more war gear and aid. If hitler hadn't decided that he didn't want possible communist coming back to germany WW2 could have been a lot different longer or harder. From what I understand the agreement fell apart a year before hitler attacked russia as the plan did involve using the russians to transport most of the men.

  • @skeletonwguitar4383
    @skeletonwguitar4383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is just sad, makes me sad :(

  • @CreakerHunter
    @CreakerHunter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    even today, German is still considered as the most friendly European country in China by most ppl.

  • @Yamamotoseto
    @Yamamotoseto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Taiwan was part of Japan during this time. Map was incorrect.

  • @terencewinters2154
    @terencewinters2154 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    After nanking the demoralization of the kuomintang was complete and ccp gained followers

  • @hidad1822
    @hidad1822 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the military cooperation between Germany and China at that time last 10 years, over 100000 men were trained by German advisors, the 88 and 87 divisions were the best trained and equiped fully with German weapons. unfortunately both divisions were completely lost during the first year of war with Japan. have to adimt, without the German advisors and weapons (uniforms, helmet, tanks, guns..etc) China would have ended up in a even worse situation fighting against Japan in the first two years (1937 ,1938)

  • @Vinn_K
    @Vinn_K 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why am I in tears

  • @jasonmccool4342
    @jasonmccool4342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm sure this content is decent enough, but I can't handle this auctioneer type of narration.

  • @atlet1
    @atlet1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bad speaker and retoric make it hard to folow the history.

  • @viktorjoachimmoscoso6327
    @viktorjoachimmoscoso6327 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if China attacked pearl harbor instead Japan?

  • @Jarod-te2bi
    @Jarod-te2bi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why did Germany ally with Japan in the first place?

  • @nathansharma87
    @nathansharma87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They were buying counterfeit dongles and batteries before Tim Cook found out and bricked their phones.

  • @陳湘-j8t
    @陳湘-j8t 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WW2德國陸軍,陸海空三軍素來不合,元帥之间,軍团彼此亦同,為了人力資源明爭暗鬥,幸好基層軍官士官兵素貭佳战力强,才有初期的輝煌時期,情報組織亦是冗員庸者一堆,「露西」蟄伏在0KW,0KH中渾然不察,謎密碼机被破解,也無高手覺得有異,U艇狼群被滅也是認了,隆美尔人謂名將吹捧的,北非战役德軍規模小於軍团是c級战區,戈培尔利用其「造神亅鼓舞士氣,念茲在茲老婆大人的生日,六月六日前就驅車回德,元首在睡没人敢吵,装甲師没动用,历史走向大不同。

  • @Wolfen443
    @Wolfen443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, interesting background for the situation in China. So China fell back into the Warlord Era in the middle of modern times, again with disastrous results.

  • @neilcheng829
    @neilcheng829 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good documentary
    Can you please tell me the two background soundtracks
    At the start and during the documentary thank you

  • @ROOSTER333
    @ROOSTER333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Perfect timing.

  • @chrisnnh
    @chrisnnh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “I know everything about WW ll”
    Dark Docs, “Did you know....???”
    “Oh, I don’t know shit, Never mind.”

  • @mohammadsaida4603
    @mohammadsaida4603 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are weakness points in defense of Japan military became heavily loud on German defense power during 2world war?

  • @poilolegz9585
    @poilolegz9585 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like mini Docs like this. Keep up the great work!!

  • @TheDavidlloydjones
    @TheDavidlloydjones 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Calling Yuan Shikai a legitimate emperor renders this whole video nonsense -- even if we ignore all the silly "Beizhing" stuff. The capital of China is Beijing, bay-JING.

  • @lahoku
    @lahoku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just imagine, remember as this was just only a century ago. The 20th century...what a time!

  • @jackau08
    @jackau08 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    if the Japanese don't attack, by 1939, china would have the first non German panzer division made up of imported panzer one and two models and plans to build panzer 3 in China itself by 1941. imported bf109 would make zeros a run for its money too. Japanese paper tanks and poor army arms would have no hope in counter against these forces , hence Japanese attacked at a right time for such success seen in early stages of the war.