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The Four Battles of Changsha should be covered as they were the largest city battles between Shanghai and Stalingrad. It would take 5 years and 4 failed attempts to take the city. In fact the commander of Stalingrad, General Chuikov was an advisor at Wuhan and learned a lot about urban warfare there. He was assigned to Stalingrad because of this expertise.
@@shinobi-no-bueno China today is not a modern day Soviet Union. To be honest, China today actually sort of is an enormous Japan, if we are to use Japan as a yardstick. Massive urbanisation that resulted in bustling cities, high tech everywhere (can't use paper money anymore...) and a love of anime-style entertainment. None of that Soviet brutalist architecture (imposing, but old-looking) and the like. And no, Soviet-style secret police or other forms of oppresion is not a thing in China. I've literally lived there for a time. I saw none of it, and heard none of it from anyone.
@@AvalancheZ250 Why need secret police when you can have a mass of para police patrolling and "checking" on the general population, Getting radomly harassed by those chengguan several time while traveling in Beijing is not a fun time(since I'm Asian they probably thought I'm a Chinese national), fortunately I'm able to quickly defuse the situation by informing them that I'm a foreigner, still wonder how normal Chinese people have to suffer these abuse.
@@williammiao8862 I legit never had any Chinese complain to me about "oppression", especially not by uniformed officers. This encompasses Chinese people I've talked to both in China and abroad. Maybe you are just jumping to conclusions? By harassed, do you mean shouted at, or merely asked a question you intepreted as something more sinister? I mean, it makes sense; the language and culture is different, so the whole tone of the exchange can feel off, and wrong intentions can be intepreted as a result.
@@tc4303 Correct. Neither were saints. Both have stained histories, as all governments and nations do. All that matters now is what they are doing and what they will do. So long as the people are happy, that's all that matters.
Common people do extraordinary things for their country in times of distress, honor and Glory to the all who given their life for their country and people...
Imagine outnumbering your enemy 44:1, you keep getting pushed back by one building, meanwhile right across the river people are basically saying “fuck you”
@@slslbbn4096 Not even comparable, France was right next to Germany and had economically and demographically suffered heavily for doing the brunt of the work in WWI well also having a smaller population then Germany. China was massive (land wise) with 4 times the population of Japan and Japan had to send much of its supplies across the sea.
@@slslbbn4096 But back to topic the French and British Military leadership (in Malaya) were hopeless beyond imagination. How could you lose an island with so many men... No wonder Churchill was so pissed off. Although Churchill had a hand in taking resources away from Malaya.
I'm surprised the Chinese soldier who killed the 20 Japanese soldiers while wearing the grenade vests didn't end up blowing a hole in buildings wall or at least weaken it. Still, that soldier had balls of steel!
And then Imperial Japanese commander be like: If one guy can do suicide bombing and killed 20 people, what if we do kamikaze attack? Even better, strapped a bomb on aircraft (Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka).
Hand grenades mainly kill through shrapnel not explosive power. They don't have enough explosives to do serious damage to most structures, especially not when detonated outside where the explosion is free to travel in other directions, if it was detonated inside of a building a tight space it would be a lot more likely to do structural damage because of the confinement.
I am a second generation Chinese American whose parents came from Shanghai, and I feel ashamed that I hadn't heard about story battle until now. Next time I go back to Shanghai I will make sure I pay the Sihang Warehouse a visit and pay my respects to those who gave their lives fighting the Japanese.
I'm surprised the CCP even allowed a memorial nevermind allowed anyone to know about it. They're very secretive about the overwhelming contribution of CKS's government against the Japanese.
Just check on google maps only 3 actual written reviews (all 5*). I’m also 2nd Generation ABC and didn’t know about it until recently from the movie even though my grandfather actually fought in Shanghai. Don’t know much about it though since he died (in Taiwan) before I was born.
As a citizen of Shanghai, I can´t express how moved and grateful I´m of u making this episode! The Defense of Sihang Warehouse was one of the most heroic stories this futuristic city could offer, and it deserves to be remembered by the world! Colonel Xie and his men are respected as nation heroes in China, and they will live forever in the heart of every Shanghainese!
The military aims of the Axis powers were not formally added to the alliance until 1940. The existing agreement between Japan and Germany was "anti-Comintern" which did not strictly apply in this case. So in 1937 the Germans were obliged by treaty with China to continue with their military support of the latter.
A Persian army fought about 30 days in Persian gates, a mountain pass in Southern Iran, against the Alexander army. Eventually someone betrayed them and showed Alexander a way around the pass and he managed to circle them, defeat them and capture Persepolis. I know this sounds like Thermopylae itself but this reverse story actually happened.
@@isprikitikburkabush6200 Hmm I don't think so, it's extremely expensive and takes many years to make a good game and Kings and Generals have about 5 employees on LinkedIn at least and only 1 is an animator whist armchair historian has 50+ employees.
I was in Shanghai in 2019, got a chance to visit the actual place which is now a memorial and Museum. My friend told me about the place and I was quite interested. The Museum was great and during my trip a school was there also having a field trip but additionally hold a memorial session to the 800 heroes.
Japan: We will take Shanghai in 3 days and China in 3 months Also Japan: *Can't even take a building in 3 days* Still Japan: *Can't even take Shanghai in less than 3 months* It's still Japan: *Can't even take China at all*
Pretty much they said they'd take Shanghai in 3 days and all of China in 3 months Took em 3 months 3 months of brutal Stalingrad like house to house fighting
@@Willzy800 I can imagine the Russian Revenge on the Germans but imagine Chinese revenge on the Japanese if Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn’t happen, and that would be a sight to see.
Don’t forget the ROC is now Taiwan and the PRC never displays the ROC flag (they use the PRC flag) during WW2 movies even though ROC did all the heavy lifting.
@Surrender Modi During the war the British Empire and Dominions raised a total of 8,586,000 men for military service. More than 5 million came from the British Isles (over 10% of the population), 1,440,500 from India, 629,000 from Canada, 413,000 from Australia. Wanna explain given those numbers, how that is fighting until the last Indian ?
@@Willzy800 Talk about Pacific war not western front. In battle of Hong Kong allies had 14562 mens. British 3652 Local Colonial 2428 Indian 2254 Auxiliary Defence Units 2112 Hong Kong Volunteer Defence Corps 2000 Canadian 1982 Nursing Detachment 136
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I have to give kudos to the narrator. The pronunciation of the Mandarin names was probably the best of any history narrator I've heard. In fact, the only "off" parts were the pronunciation of the I's in "Sihang" or "Shi" (they're closer to the I in "sit" than "see," so Shi is pronounced like the 4-letter swear word without the T), but a very minor detail
And he's still pronouncing 'Yuan' as 'Waan' occasionally. Still I agree, he's very good already for a non-speaker. Almost reminds me of the Chinese correspondents of major Western news channels who, due to being stationed in China and presumably speaking Chinese, never butchers Chinese terms.
Thank you for this! I've always felt it a shame that WW2 in Europe, Russia and N Africa gets covered over and over by many people, and yet the Sino-Japanese wars so little. Heck, I've seen more items on the Spanish Civil War than on the Sino-Japanese wars, yet the latter involved far more people over a much longer time! Well done!
Thank you for covering this topic. You rarely see China mentioned when discussing WW2, even though the country was at war with Japan for 2 years before Germany invaded Poland, and had the second highest number of deaths of all allied countries.
Yet, it's the Chinese on the mainland that produced this movie to remember the bravery of the veterans that fled to Taiwan, while the Taiwanese government censored this film in fear of awakening the memories of when Taiwan was ruled from China.
An entire 300,000 soldiers are fleeing without a fight, leaving their children and women behind. Are you really proud of that ? This video is about the first major battle from imperial japanese against china in 1937.
Sinophobia is still strong, and is the only thing that united the western world nowadays, along with Russophobia. China must be strong on its own, because no one else would remember their heroism.
In Shanghai 37 the Chinese are the ones who initiate an assault on Shanghai not as it says in the first sentence "Japan attacked" that is such a basic fact to get wrong!!!! I stopped watching after that,a bit of research goes a long way.!!!
I mean to be fair, the USA was dealing with crippling economic recession and the UK and French populations were anti-war. The Nazis weren't interested and had no real presence in Asia anyway, while the soviets also had internal matters to settle.
@@str2010 exactly, most of the europe were quite anti war, also by around 1937 europe are rearming themselves against Germany after their deman in Czechoslovakia, western power r already preoccupied in europe and their colonial possession are no match with the Japanese judging from distances, the best they can do was to embargo and put sanction on said nation, just like what happened during italian invasion of Ethiopia, but thanks to that Japanese attack us and drag the west into war with japan and put and end to the war I guess
Finally! More videos about the Second Sino-Japanese War, please! The Chinese United Front (especially the Nationalists) deserve more recognition in their efforts during the overall Second World War. Also, I got goosebumps in the flag-raising scene of the Chinese film "The 800". A bit cheesy but yeah.
With some medications, shorter buttstock for smaller Asian figures, and the charging handle is straight unlike the bended one on Kar98K for easier manufacturing.
China is often totally forgotten in the western view of the Second World War. The Chinese together with the Russians lost more lives than any other country and fought bravely for the entire war with almost no help against the Japanese. You have to remember that China was already in the middle of a civil war when the Japanese invaded.
Mercantilism is known for its improvident characteristics. Hell, the wall street didn't even stop doing business with Nazi Germany until the end of 1941.
It's a story of twofold, Mao was praising Japan for their invasion because it helped CCP to survive and grow meanwhile KMT died in millions and lost influences. CCP only in recent years heavily propagandize the war effort as to drive the nationalism narratives even they have very little to do with the entire Sino-Japan war. US only formally joined the war in 1941 which is 4 years after the bloodbath happened throughout the entire China and then dispatched "Vinegar Joe" as joint commander with Chiang who has even plotted to assassinate Chiang... Lots of what has happened during Sino-Japan war left untold, US's foreign aid during the time to China is only 1/10th of Soviet Union and most were actually left unpaid. Not only that, US troops stationed in China has been paid out of KMT's own treasury which US only has "I owe you" to all the bills and was also left unpaid. US criticized KMT's bureaucrats stealing from US aid but many of them actually retired in US and investigated by FBI multiple times but found no evidence of it. The whole "KMT's corruption" was just a narrative considering those who were truly corrupted actually defected to join CCP during Chinese civil war. The whole history has been mostly forgotten because of CCP and communist sympathizers of US.
Lu Xun (魯迅) once wrote: "Hope is a path on the mountainside. At first there is no path. But then there are people passing that way. And there is a path"
Only problem I had with the film that this documentary and other sources point out that the IJA did not use poison gas historically, yet in the first half of the film, they use gas on the warehouse. Guess it was for dramatic effect.
@@TehHank The Japanese did use poison gas in Shanghai, just not near areas of the International Settlement (such as at Sihang Warehouse). This is heavily suggested because photos of the battle show many Japanese and Chinese units wearing gas masks. Note: Only the German trained divisions of China had proper gas masks, which constituted less than 1/3 of the NRA force. Also side note from the video: Hanyang 88 Rifle is not the same as the Chiang Kai-shek Rifle. The Hanyang 88 was a 1895 model based off of the 1888 Gewehr while the Chiang Kai-shek Rifle [or Type 24] was a 1935 model based off later Gewehr models like Standardmodell and others.
The movie is excellent, although it does unnecessarily exaggerate the number of killed and wounded. It's also a shame it had to go through review, removing all clear images of the ROC flag.
@@Dar_Skirata Though compared to previous films made on the topic, the Chinese film industry has much evolved in a good way. I can't wait to see what else they will create.
Amazing for covering this canonical event. Looking forward for the coverage of other major battles like battle of Shanghai, fall of Nanjing, battle of Wuhan,and battle of XuZhou
Thank you Kings and Generals. With your videos, heroic battle and heroes like these will be forever remembered. Hope you can make a video of Panvilov's 28 and Lieutenant Adnan during the Battle of Singapore.
There is a song called "the song for the eight hundred" at the time, "China will not fall, China will not fall, just look at our heroic Captain Xie, who fought in the east with his eight hundred. Cannons to all sides of them, wolves to all sides of them, they would rather die, than surrender their ground. Our flags flying among enemy lines, our eight hundred fight on as one, even against the enemy ten thousand strong. Our deeds are valiant, our courage lives on, come country men, come to the battleground, follew our eight hundred, and know China will not fall, China will not fall, China will never fall, never, never, never fall... ..."
Well, even our weapons do not changed much, because if you look closely, we never stopped throwing stones at each other, only made our stones fly more faster and gave the stones the capacity to explode. So, we can clearly say that we have no need to "return to monke", because we never left monke. GRUG STRONG! GRUG HAVE BIG DAKKA! GRUG GO TO VALHALLA!
@@Jamhael1Our stones just became faster and got the capacity to explode? Hello? They are called hypersonic missiles and can fly up to 32.200 kilometers per hour
There is a small mistake at 5:04. It is the Type 24 rifle (a Chinese replica of the Mauser 1933) not the Hanyang 88 (a Chinese replica of the Gewehr 89 that dated all the way back to the late Qing dynasty) that is dubbed the Chiang Kai-Shek rifle. That being said, excellent documentary tho. Really glad to see more coverage of the Second Sino-Japanese war.
One of my favorite episodes in all of history. Thank you so much for covering this, hope to see further videos about the 2nd Sino Japanese war, like Taierzhuang or the battles for Changsha.
When you read about "bitter fighting" in war. This is what I would call bitter. Holding on to one building for days against impossible odds and still leaving the enemy with a bloody eye.
I really appreciate the effort in trying to pronounce the Chinese names correctly. It was not entirely consistent and some words were still off, but it's clear you guys really put the effort in. Of the documentaries concerning Chinese history I've seen, including what some may consider more professional ones like those on the History channel, this was one of the best in that regard.
Excellent 3D map graphic video depicting the battle. Thank you Kings and Generals. I had watched the movie. Cost $60 million to make and it was huge for Chinese standard and make $472,6 million at the Chinese boxoffice and became the highest grossing film in the world in 2020 at the height of pandemic year, Demon Slayer: Mugen Train from Japan at no.2 and Bad Boys for Life from the US at no.3 in yearly boxoffice gross. The movie itself was made with high attention to detail, cool kinetic battle scenes, but a so-so in storytelling, could be made better actually, but overall it was an excellent war movie depicting what heroism really looks like.
@@alaric_ They did bomb with artillery and the airforce. That was the only way they managed to take Shanghai. Japanese infantry and tanks couldn't do shit against entrenched Chinese positions on their own. If they had no artillery or airforce the only thing they would've taken is a few isalnds in the East China Sea.
@@alaric_….the Japanese bombed the hell out of Chinese cities via air, land and sea. Chungking, later the wartime capital of China was the most bombed city of the world at the time. Shanghai 1937, the portion that was under Chinese jurisdiction was made a wasteland from Japanese artillery and bombings. Sihang warehouse, that itty bitty stretch was an exception because the International Settlement was right across, I think they still hit that building with light artillery regardless. The pockmarks on the warehouse walls shows this even today
Great video! Loved the level of detail. This rpisode is a great event of the 2sjw. Please more content of this forgotten part of ww2. The desperate strugglen for the control of every single train track and station, the brutality showed by both sides, the political games and even armed conflicts between the united front, the stalemate that ultimately pushed Japan to a war with the west that they knew was unwinnable; all these events are unknown by most people and are very interesting.
I was at a gaming convention in june where we recreated this battle. The chinese deployed in a model of the building while the japanese deployed on the streets. The table looked amazing. The issue was the gm didnt test the snipe mechanic and so the chinese defenders were able to keep any Japanese from getting into the building. The damn rule ignored all cover.
Just a suggestion to discuss and make a video about the Philippine-American War and the Philippine Thermopylae(aka the Battle of Tirad Pass) is interesting to discuss.
You would be surprised at how many battles that were fought in WWII that was just like Stalingrad. Theirs a bunch. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
For those still arguing about PRC vs ROC regarding the war against Japanese aggression. 1) The war was a historic war fought by Chinese in China, back then Taiwan was a Japanese colony, in fact many of the island's population were supporting japan to invade China. So to give them the credit of fighting the war is like to give credit of the Soviet war effort to Estonians, whom also collaborated with the invading Germans. 2) Today the PRC openly acknowledges the role of the KMT in fighting the Japanese, calling their war effort as the main frontal war. So it's funny to see people saying it's surprising to see the warehouse was turned into a memorial. Yes the CPC also maintain the original look of the old Presidential Palace in Nanjing that belonged to the KMT. Where the ROC flag is still displayed today. 3) For those that aren't familiar with Chinese politics, the KMT still has a presence in the Chinese People's Congress, a minor party as part of the United Front. The Mainland China and the island of Taiwan is still at war,
I think your confusing people giving credit to the Republic of China for fighting the Japanese rather than the Taiwanese who of course during this war fought for the Japanese. The R.O.C overwhelmingly were responsible for fighting the Japanese as opposed to the communists who avoided expending their troops and resources leading to their eventual victory in the Chinese Civil War.
@@mist7879 The entire war was fought as a defensive war, the KMT forces didn't actively seek to fight the Japanese, the Japanese just happened to be attacking the KMT held areas rather than CPC held areas. So it's far from the picture you're painting. KMT even lost a campaign in 1944, their entire front was collapsing against the japanese army short on resources. So to claim that the KMT gave everything is simply wrong, they held back as much as they can, never even considered to counter attack against the weakened japanese army. They were preparing for the Civil war to resume so they wanted to conserve their energy.
@@EarthForces LOL typical strawman 's argument. 1) Where did I say the CPC were the main fighting force? 2) you sat up the false target of me claiming CPC is the main fighting force, and proceeded to defeat an argument you brought up yourself, and claim a "victory". This is a textbook example of a strawman fallacy. People like you really needs to grow a brain before spewing your nonsense.
@@M9575 LOL I challenge you to point out any part of my statement that is "half true". The KMT forces, NEVER had the initiative throughout the war, and during Operation Ichi-go in 1944, when Japan was starved of resources, the entire KMT front collapsed. That's like the Soviet Front collapsing after the battle of Kursk, or the Allied forces driven out of France shortly after liberating Paris. The Japanese army back then were in an even more dire position than the German army was. Facts are facts, the KMT NEVER held any initiative, their entire war effort was to defend. And the Japanese just happened to be attacking them. So the idea that the KMT is heroically liberating Chinese cities or seeking out Japanese to fight, like some here are trying to portray, is an utter lie.
Fun fact: Yang huimin had beef with Dai Li, supervisor of Nationalist Secret Services, thus was thrown into jail with made-up charges. She was promptly released after the death of Dai and concealed herself and moved to Taiwan after the collapse of the Nationalist government in 1949. It is not until the 1975 blockbuster “Eight hundred” giving her national fame that she finally decided to uncover her true identity to the public and received heroic praise.
@@gavinsmith9871 there are 2 different movies one in the 75 and 2020, one is made by Taiwan, one is made by China (surprisingly this one was allowed to be make at all since the CCP is usually very allergic to the NRC)
@@lichsuchientranh2910 Logic: Taiwan (ROC) uses ROC flag, so it is very sensitive, which is related to Taiwan's independence. The NRA (ROC) is less sensitive because the NRA has nothing to do with Taiwan's independence CPC also used the NRA logo during the Sino Japanese War and was included in the NRA, so the ROC Flag often appears
Thanks to these 452 brave soldiers who defend the Sihang Warehouse that encourage Chinese army to fight Japanese, the result was Japanese could only occupied 20% of China territory and at last Chinese wins againts Japanese together with the Allies
During this time the Japanese used 38 Shikis (Type 38) which bolt action rifles as their main rifles. As stated in the video the Chinese main weapon was the Hanyang 88 rifle, aslo bolt action. Both sides had similar infantry weapons with the Japanese having more armor and artillery
Or how modern weapons gave the defense a large advantage over the offense. The disparity is open wide during WW1 when usual tactics of infantry and cavalry charges are bloodily repelled by MG and artillery fire...
It never ceases to amaze me who flags have so much power as to make modern military leaders do everything they can to take them down even when is it strategically meaningless.
The Movie Eight hundred brought me here. The Movie is about the first major battle from imperial japanese against China in 1937, when the war didn't even started yet in Europe (world war 2 started in europe in 1939, almost 2 years later). How can people dare to say this is propaganda, when there are actual historic footages from that time still in historic archives depicting that event, recorded by journalists. And the movie didn't even portrayed the chinese soldiers having a victory, but it was a bloody retreat, as was described in history that is even recorded and known in western history books. And the soldiers weren't even communists, they were from NRA from Chiang Kaisheks army. Also the West, as in The League of Nations didn't lay a finger to help the chinese to fight fascism. It's a shame and disgrace of western cinemas not putting this movie in mainstream theaters and telling the story about the brave sacrifice these chinese soldiers have made in trying to defend their dignity and country.
Thanks for covering a part of the war in China, it's not very well known in the west like imphal-kohima or guadalcanal or Okinawa, the surprising Chinese victory at taierzhuang (sp?) In 1938 or crushing Japanese victory in ichi-go in 44 would be cool too
the japanese back then had no honor, they didn't abide to the Geneva Conventions and launched surprise attacks before they even declared war on another nation...they would do what ever it takes to win a war..
The IJA was not honourable by any definition. You can argue about the IJN being honourable, but not the IJA. The stuff IJA soldiers did when not supervised is utterly messed up
Thank you for the informative video. Please produce more videos regarding the Sino - Japanese War such as the Battle of Changsha, Battle of Taierzhuang or even the Battle of Guilin. Keep up the good work. Cheers.
Too bad for many years it was probably forgotten in China (that’s why the memorial was created so late) because the CCP won the China civil war and probably didn’t want to publicize the Nationalist in a good way.
@@johnl.7754 it is better to be late than absent, things have changed so much after Deng’s era. Roc has its recognition throughout history books which is included in basic education
Outstanding! Very detail and accurate! Animation is awesome! Thank you for preserve and introduce this history to the world. Let our fallen heroes will always be remembered. My respect to you.
@@arkadisevyan My grandfather was a Dutch-Jew. He was living in Shanghai at the time. This is not propaganda. It's the facts, he saw it with his own eyes. He told us about it years later. And these soldiers are not CCPs. They are KMT. Allies of Britain and the United States during World War II. If you don't know the history. Please don't talk nonsense here.🤐
@@arkadisevyan My grandfather was just an ordinary businessman. How could he go to the battlefield in person. At that time, on the other side of the river, where the fighting was fighting, even war correspondents could not be there in person. They could only observe the battle with civilian binoculars.
Plot twist of history : A Nazi member saved 300.000 Chinese civilians from invading Japanese soldiers in Nanjing in 1937. While... Japanese diplomat saved thousands of German Jews during WWII.
Xie: "I ain't letting go of this defense." Japan: "Not on my watch-" "I SAID, I ain't letting go of this defense." *drags out heavy artillery* "We'll see about that..." *Several hours later* "Dude wtf"
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The Four Battles of Changsha should be covered as they were the largest city battles between Shanghai and Stalingrad. It would take 5 years and 4 failed attempts to take the city. In fact the commander of Stalingrad, General Chuikov was an advisor at Wuhan and learned a lot about urban warfare there. He was assigned to Stalingrad because of this expertise.
Interesing, it is a shame that i didn't knew about this earlier.
If only Japan had left china alone, maybe they would be like an enormous Japan today instead of a modern day Soviet union :/
@@shinobi-no-bueno China today is not a modern day Soviet Union. To be honest, China today actually sort of is an enormous Japan, if we are to use Japan as a yardstick. Massive urbanisation that resulted in bustling cities, high tech everywhere (can't use paper money anymore...) and a love of anime-style entertainment. None of that Soviet brutalist architecture (imposing, but old-looking) and the like.
And no, Soviet-style secret police or other forms of oppresion is not a thing in China. I've literally lived there for a time. I saw none of it, and heard none of it from anyone.
@@AvalancheZ250 Why need secret police when you can have a mass of para police patrolling and "checking" on the general population, Getting radomly harassed by those chengguan several time while traveling in Beijing is not a fun time(since I'm Asian they probably thought I'm a Chinese national), fortunately I'm able to quickly defuse the situation by informing them that I'm a foreigner, still wonder how normal Chinese people have to suffer these abuse.
@@williammiao8862
I legit never had any Chinese complain to me about "oppression", especially not by uniformed officers.
This encompasses Chinese people I've talked to both in China and abroad.
Maybe you are just jumping to conclusions? By harassed, do you mean shouted at, or merely asked a question you intepreted as something more sinister? I mean, it makes sense; the language and culture is different, so the whole tone of the exchange can feel off, and wrong intentions can be intepreted as a result.
The movie Eight Hundred, even if it is not 100% accurate, is absolutely incredible.
Lol I literally just came to the comments to say "They should make a film about this! I bet it would be awesome!"
@@Old299dfk Well just go watch it mate
There were actually two movies of the 800 heroes
@@ethanramos4441 oh really is the other one worth it?
Yeah the movie is good. Would recommend people watch it.
The General who was defending the warehouse, Xie Jinyuan, passed away when he was only 35 years old in 1941. Over 100,000 people came to his funeral.
@mike mike what are you trying to say
@@tc4303 It must have felt so right
@@tc4303 Correct. Neither were saints. Both have stained histories, as all governments and nations do. All that matters now is what they are doing and what they will do. So long as the people are happy, that's all that matters.
He was a battalion commander so a close proximity of a major or leutenant colonel.
not only him, there are a few chinese commanders who got killed by own country people during the war
The courage and bravery of these men was very impressive...
And their tactics/strategy. I have a new respect for that lost generation of Chinese people.
Common people do extraordinary things for their country in times of distress, honor and Glory to the all who given their life for their country and people...
IJA: "Yay, we have captured Shanghai and can finally rest"
452 Chinese Soldiers: "Allow us to introduce ourselves"
No rest for the wicked.
More like, "HELLO THERE"
@@slslbbn4096 10 days? That's crazy...
452 Chinese Soldiers: "THIS IS THE MIDDLE NATION (China)!!!"
@@curtiswong7280
It was 4 or 5 days, but even THATs impressive
Imagine outnumbering your enemy 44:1, you keep getting pushed back by one building, meanwhile right across the river people are basically saying “fuck you”
lmao
Hear hear
@@slslbbn4096 Not even comparable, France was right next to Germany and had economically and demographically suffered heavily for doing the brunt of the work in WWI well also having a smaller population then Germany. China was massive (land wise) with 4 times the population of Japan and Japan had to send much of its supplies across the sea.
@@slslbbn4096 Hello. Don't talk nonsense. I'm ethnically Chinese. But if US and China goes to war, Jesus would be coming soon thereafter.
@@slslbbn4096 But back to topic the French and British Military leadership (in Malaya) were hopeless beyond imagination.
How could you lose an island with so many men... No wonder Churchill was so pissed off. Although Churchill had a hand in taking resources away from Malaya.
I'm surprised the Chinese soldier who killed the 20 Japanese soldiers while wearing the grenade vests didn't end up blowing a hole in buildings wall or at least weaken it. Still, that soldier had balls of steel!
Like the Taliban
They were one of the first modern cases of suicide bombers.
Yeah that's what I was expecting to happen. Lol movie explosions are cooler than real ones (and less dangerous 😬)
And then Imperial Japanese commander be like: If one guy can do suicide bombing and killed 20 people, what if we do kamikaze attack? Even better, strapped a bomb on aircraft (Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka).
Hand grenades mainly kill through shrapnel not explosive power. They don't have enough explosives to do serious damage to most structures, especially not when detonated outside where the explosion is free to travel in other directions, if it was detonated inside of a building a tight space it would be a lot more likely to do structural damage because of the confinement.
I am a second generation Chinese American whose parents came from Shanghai, and I feel ashamed that I hadn't heard about story battle until now. Next time I go back to Shanghai I will make sure I pay the Sihang Warehouse a visit and pay my respects to those who gave their lives fighting the Japanese.
I'm surprised the CCP even allowed a memorial nevermind allowed anyone to know about it. They're very secretive about the overwhelming contribution of CKS's government against the Japanese.
@@HavanaSyndrome69 its a shame the western allies abandoned Chiang Kai Shek.
@@HavanaSyndrome69 nowadays CCP have restore the name of CKS and the role of many NRA generals and soldiers.
Just check on google maps only 3 actual written reviews (all 5*). I’m also 2nd Generation ABC and didn’t know about it until recently from the movie even though my grandfather actually fought in Shanghai. Don’t know much about it though since he died (in Taiwan) before I was born.
@@HavanaSyndrome69 seems the CCP is giving you nightmares daily
As a citizen of Shanghai, I can´t express how moved and grateful I´m of u making this episode! The Defense of Sihang Warehouse was one of the most heroic stories this futuristic city could offer, and it deserves to be remembered by the world! Colonel Xie and his men are respected as nation heroes in China, and they will live forever in the heart of every Shanghainese!
@@saint_matthias Why dont you start with me, im a supporter of the CCP.
@@saint_matthias LOL good luck, non-Chinese's opinion on the CCP means zero where im (Macao)
@@saint_matthias LOL what a joke! 1999 ring any bells? And you can judge? You dont even live here!
And im staying waiting for heaven to destroy me :D
@@95ellington don´t worry about him man, he doesn´t sound like someone who has a sane brain, probably some hardcore Falun Gong cultist
Germans provide arms and supplies to the Chinese:
Japan: "You weren't supposed to do that".
GERMANY was betting on both sides...
The military aims of the Axis powers were not formally added to the alliance until 1940. The existing agreement between Japan and Germany was "anti-Comintern" which did not strictly apply in this case. So in 1937 the Germans were obliged by treaty with China to continue with their military support of the latter.
@@DanfuLiu Nope.
More importantly training
There is always somebody willing to sell something to anyone, I think that is one of the big problems. War is good for some businesses.
A Persian army fought about 30 days in Persian gates, a mountain pass in Southern Iran, against the Alexander army. Eventually someone betrayed them and showed Alexander a way around the pass and he managed to circle them, defeat them and capture Persepolis. I know this sounds like Thermopylae itself but this reverse story actually happened.
sounds like a ripoff to raise morale lol
They should make a docu on it
Correct, I believe the Persian Satrap in command of the defense was named Ariobarzanes.
damn, goes to show how people rarely remember the losing side.
Battle of Hot Gates!
Judging by the animations, your company is at a very high level. You will even produce games soon :D
I would honestly play the shit out of Kings and Generals game. The historical accuracy would be insane.
With the number of his subs and views I think he have enough money to produce a high quality game
@@isprikitikburkabush6200 We live in hope 🤞🏼
just like armchair historian
@@isprikitikburkabush6200 Hmm I don't think so, it's extremely expensive and takes many years to make a good game and Kings and Generals have about 5 employees on LinkedIn at least and only 1 is an animator whist armchair historian has 50+ employees.
I was in Shanghai in 2019, got a chance to visit the actual place which is now a memorial and Museum. My friend told me about the place and I was quite interested. The Museum was great and during my trip a school was there also having a field trip but additionally hold a memorial session to the 800 heroes.
I love your pfp, shows United Chinese together
@@aquagaming8749 indeed no matter what we are still all Chinese. And it is my deepest belief in the United Front
Well not ccp is
Japan: We will take Shanghai in 3 days and China in 3 months
Also Japan: *Can't even take a building in 3 days*
Still Japan: *Can't even take Shanghai in less than 3 months*
It's still Japan: *Can't even take China at all*
Pretty much they said they'd take Shanghai in 3 days and all of China in 3 months
Took em 3 months
3 months of brutal Stalingrad like house to house fighting
That reminds me of Russia right now lol
@@amkmapping-hu9ud "special military operation"
Hats off to the brave chinese soldiers for defending their home land
@Абдульзефир Yeah the Chinese and Russians fought the hardest out of anyone
@@Willzy800 I can imagine the Russian Revenge on the Germans but imagine Chinese revenge on the Japanese if Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn’t happen, and that would be a sight to see.
Don’t forget the ROC is now Taiwan and the PRC never displays the ROC flag (they use the PRC flag) during WW2 movies even though ROC did all the heavy lifting.
@Surrender Modi During the war the British Empire and Dominions raised a total of 8,586,000 men for military service. More than 5 million came from the British Isles (over 10% of the population), 1,440,500 from India, 629,000 from Canada, 413,000 from Australia. Wanna explain given those numbers, how that is fighting until the last Indian ?
@@Willzy800 Talk about Pacific war not western front. In battle of Hong Kong allies had 14562 mens.
British 3652
Local Colonial 2428
Indian 2254
Auxiliary Defence Units 2112
Hong Kong Volunteer Defence Corps 2000
Canadian 1982
Nursing Detachment 136
I love the narrator's voice, I do loose track of listening and I have to go back get the points again.
Kudos to the narrator.
Read this with a Ghanaian accent 😂
Who needs Netflix when u got kings & Generals.
No doubt man. TH-cam has turned in to a history lover's wet dream over the past few years. There are enough mind blowing, amazing, totally entertaining true stories being told on these history youtubes to fill 200 cable channels' schedules with solid gold for MONTHS. And it's all free. Beats a $100+ bill for shite each month
next time you see K&G, it is Netflix exclusive content....
@@iLLeag7e I hear Netflix has been pushing certain Agendas in their shows. Like with kids shows, telling them its okay to be trans.
@@nomooon bro them's fightin' wurds
who needs netflix anyways?
The Second Sino-Japanese War is not as well known in the U.S.A. Thank you for these wonderfully detailed videos.
I have to give kudos to the narrator. The pronunciation of the Mandarin names was probably the best of any history narrator I've heard. In fact, the only "off" parts were the pronunciation of the I's in "Sihang" or "Shi" (they're closer to the I in "sit" than "see," so Shi is pronounced like the 4-letter swear word without the T), but a very minor detail
He pronounce it correct if its in Hokkien. 😂
And he's still pronouncing 'Yuan' as 'Waan' occasionally.
Still I agree, he's very good already for a non-speaker. Almost reminds me of the Chinese correspondents of major Western news channels who, due to being stationed in China and presumably speaking Chinese, never butchers Chinese terms.
Thank you for this! I've always felt it a shame that WW2 in Europe, Russia and N Africa gets covered over and over by many people, and yet the Sino-Japanese wars so little. Heck, I've seen more items on the Spanish Civil War than on the Sino-Japanese wars, yet the latter involved far more people over a much longer time! Well done!
Perfect timing, watched the movie not too long ago.
@@AH-ql4pw The Eight Hundred
@@AH-ql4pw the city of life and death is what i know, but i don't know what TS referring to
I got to respect it bro thanks for that im going to watch the movie before i come back to the video 😊
Any good?
@@mojotheaverage yeah, bit over dramatic at times, but overall I liked it.
Thank you for covering this topic. You rarely see China mentioned when discussing WW2, even though the country was at war with Japan for 2 years before Germany invaded Poland, and had the second highest number of deaths of all allied countries.
Yet, it's the Chinese on the mainland that produced this movie to remember the bravery of the veterans that fled to Taiwan, while the Taiwanese government censored this film in fear of awakening the memories of when Taiwan was ruled from China.
An entire 300,000 soldiers are fleeing without a fight, leaving their children and women behind. Are you really proud of that ? This video is about the first major battle from imperial japanese against china in 1937.
They’re not proud of the 300,000 that we’re ordered to retreat, they’re proud of the 400 who stayed behind
Sinophobia is still strong, and is the only thing that united the western world nowadays, along with Russophobia. China must be strong on its own, because no one else would remember their heroism.
@@purevjargalpuujee4845 it was a military order. It is a death sentence for disobwying orders.
Finally it's about Second Sino-Japanese War. Looking forward for more vids about the Chinese Theater, as always loved your vids
In Shanghai 37 the Chinese are the ones who initiate an assault on Shanghai not as it says in the first sentence "Japan attacked" that is such a basic fact to get wrong!!!! I stopped watching after that,a bit of research goes a long way.!!!
are you stupid?@@wargamingchina9174
"The western support only comes in the form of condemnation".
Sounds familiar
LOL so true, so true.
So accurate to these day
kinda hard for them too honestly,
I mean to be fair, the USA was dealing with crippling economic recession and the UK and French populations were anti-war. The Nazis weren't interested and had no real presence in Asia anyway, while the soviets also had internal matters to settle.
@@str2010 exactly, most of the europe were quite anti war, also by around 1937 europe are rearming themselves against Germany after their deman in Czechoslovakia, western power r already preoccupied in europe and their colonial possession are no match with the Japanese judging from distances, the best they can do was to embargo and put sanction on said nation, just like what happened during italian invasion of Ethiopia, but thanks to that Japanese attack us and drag the west into war with japan and put and end to the war I guess
that is one very well-made warehouse.
buildings back in the days
It’s a warehouse for those four banks so yes VERY well-made
dont cringe. is just a well constructed mutherfukkkker fortress
When it's used as the main warehouse for 4 different banks, of course it will be well made
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” - Winston Churchill
Part of the reason I love this channel is that it shows me things that I would never think to look up. Good on Ya KG
Finally! More videos about the Second Sino-Japanese War, please! The Chinese United Front (especially the Nationalists) deserve more recognition in their efforts during the overall Second World War.
Also, I got goosebumps in the flag-raising scene of the Chinese film "The 800". A bit cheesy but yeah.
Correction : Hanyang 1888 is the Gewehr 88
The chiang Shek rifle is the type 24 (k98k)
With some medications, shorter buttstock for smaller Asian figures, and the charging handle is straight unlike the bended one on Kar98K for easier manufacturing.
Isn't type 24 different from k98k?
China is often totally forgotten in the western view of the Second World War. The Chinese together with the Russians lost more lives than any other country and fought bravely for the entire war with almost no help against the Japanese. You have to remember that China was already in the middle of a civil war when the Japanese invaded.
They forgot on purpose.The west is so self centered
Its Tragic that if we helped the republic of china theyd still be there today as allies instead of rivals in the form of ccp
Mercantilism is known for its improvident characteristics. Hell, the wall street didn't even stop doing business with Nazi Germany until the end of 1941.
@@dennisgichohi5392 Sure, unlike China who never "forget" anything. What happen in Tiananmen Square again?
It's a story of twofold, Mao was praising Japan for their invasion because it helped CCP to survive and grow meanwhile KMT died in millions and lost influences. CCP only in recent years heavily propagandize the war effort as to drive the nationalism narratives even they have very little to do with the entire Sino-Japan war. US only formally joined the war in 1941 which is 4 years after the bloodbath happened throughout the entire China and then dispatched "Vinegar Joe" as joint commander with Chiang who has even plotted to assassinate Chiang...
Lots of what has happened during Sino-Japan war left untold, US's foreign aid during the time to China is only 1/10th of Soviet Union and most were actually left unpaid. Not only that, US troops stationed in China has been paid out of KMT's own treasury which US only has "I owe you" to all the bills and was also left unpaid. US criticized KMT's bureaucrats stealing from US aid but many of them actually retired in US and investigated by FBI multiple times but found no evidence of it. The whole "KMT's corruption" was just a narrative considering those who were truly corrupted actually defected to join CCP during Chinese civil war.
The whole history has been mostly forgotten because of CCP and communist sympathizers of US.
Really love this style of very zoomed in tactical retelling of modern battles!
More videos on the Sino-Japanese War please.
Lu Xun (魯迅) once wrote:
"Hope is a path on the mountainside. At first there is no path. But then there are people passing that way. And there is a path"
Surprisingly I had watch The Eight Hundred movie. It is truly a quality historical drama movie
Only problem I had with the film that this documentary and other sources point out that the IJA did not use poison gas historically, yet in the first half of the film, they use gas on the warehouse. Guess it was for dramatic effect.
it was good but also the film feels like a propaganda.
@@TehHank The Japanese did use poison gas in Shanghai, just not near areas of the International Settlement (such as at Sihang Warehouse). This is heavily suggested because photos of the battle show many Japanese and Chinese units wearing gas masks. Note: Only the German trained divisions of China had proper gas masks, which constituted less than 1/3 of the NRA force.
Also side note from the video: Hanyang 88 Rifle is not the same as the Chiang Kai-shek Rifle. The Hanyang 88 was a 1895 model based off of the 1888 Gewehr while the Chiang Kai-shek Rifle [or Type 24] was a 1935 model based off later Gewehr models like Standardmodell and others.
The movie is excellent, although it does unnecessarily exaggerate the number of killed and wounded. It's also a shame it had to go through review, removing all clear images of the ROC flag.
@@Dar_Skirata Though compared to previous films made on the topic, the Chinese film industry has much evolved in a good way. I can't wait to see what else they will create.
18:39 CORRECTION! There is a film about it way before 2020. Produced during the 70’s to 80’s in the ROC.
This video was sponsored by the propaganda arm of PRC! Seriously though… I watched the ROC film numerous times growing up in Taiwan.
Amazing for covering this canonical event. Looking forward for the coverage of other major battles like battle of Shanghai, fall of Nanjing, battle of Wuhan,and battle of XuZhou
And the battles of Changsha
And Changde
@@hossainabir159 epic of the epic !
@@denzelkiethherda1898 Hopefully all four of them !!!
They were huge battles, in Wuhan alone the Japanese had over 403,000 men. Thats more soldiers than Iwo Jima.
Please also cover the battle of Wuhan and the soviet volunteers as well!
The East Asian theater in ww2 is grossly under covered.
I'm sure the comment would be filled with corona jokes. So I hope they don't cover that at least until 2030.
Thank you Kings and Generals. With your videos, heroic battle and heroes like these will be forever remembered. Hope you can make a video of Panvilov's 28 and Lieutenant Adnan during the Battle of Singapore.
10:54
Ah yes, Obi Wan taught the NRA well......
Obi Wan should be glad that I'M not alive
Just watched the Chinese movie "The 800" about the defence of the Sihang warehouse in Shanghai and you made this video. AMAZING!
When Kings and Generals post a new video, I sit down silently with my hands folded @ my desk
There is a song called "the song for the eight hundred" at the time,
"China will not fall, China will not fall,
just look at our heroic Captain Xie,
who fought in the east with his eight hundred.
Cannons to all sides of them,
wolves to all sides of them,
they would rather die, than surrender their ground.
Our flags flying among enemy lines,
our eight hundred fight on as one,
even against the enemy ten thousand strong.
Our deeds are valiant, our courage lives on,
come country men, come to the battleground,
follew our eight hundred, and know China will not fall,
China will not fall,
China will never fall,
never, never, never fall... ..."
War is constantly changing, but old-school fortress siege warfare has practically stayed the same since antiquity.
Well, even our weapons do not changed much, because if you look closely, we never stopped throwing stones at each other, only made our stones fly more faster and gave the stones the capacity to explode.
So, we can clearly say that we have no need to "return to monke", because we never left monke.
GRUG STRONG!
GRUG HAVE BIG DAKKA!
GRUG GO TO VALHALLA!
@@Jamhael1Our stones just became faster and got the capacity to explode? Hello? They are called hypersonic missiles and can fly up to 32.200 kilometers per hour
@@top-flex2225 yeah, a fast flying boom stone - tomato, tomato, etc...
man this is really amazing content 10/10 and i watch a bunch of military history.
The Chinese actually made a movie called 'The 800' about these events. Big blockbuster I managed to see in a film festival recently!
I am still stunned by the animation for this one ;) excellent!
There is a small mistake at 5:04. It is the Type 24 rifle (a Chinese replica of the Mauser 1933) not the Hanyang 88 (a Chinese replica of the Gewehr 89 that dated all the way back to the late Qing dynasty) that is dubbed the Chiang Kai-Shek rifle. That being said, excellent documentary tho. Really glad to see more coverage of the Second Sino-Japanese war.
One of my favorite episodes in all of history. Thank you so much for covering this, hope to see further videos about the 2nd Sino Japanese war, like Taierzhuang or the battles for Changsha.
When you read about "bitter fighting" in war. This is what I would call bitter. Holding on to one building for days against impossible odds and still leaving the enemy with a bloody eye.
I really appreciate the effort in trying to pronounce the Chinese names correctly. It was not entirely consistent and some words were still off, but it's clear you guys really put the effort in. Of the documentaries concerning Chinese history I've seen, including what some may consider more professional ones like those on the History channel, this was one of the best in that regard.
Excellent 3D map graphic video depicting the battle.
Thank you Kings and Generals.
I had watched the movie.
Cost $60 million to make and it was huge for Chinese standard and make $472,6 million at the Chinese boxoffice and became the highest grossing film in the world in 2020 at the height of pandemic year, Demon Slayer: Mugen Train from Japan at no.2 and Bad Boys for Life from the US at no.3 in yearly boxoffice gross.
The movie itself was made with high attention to detail, cool kinetic battle scenes, but a so-so in storytelling, could be made better actually, but overall it was an excellent war movie depicting what heroism really looks like.
The eight hundred movie brought me to tears man
Japan : we will conquer whole China in three months
Also Japan： Get stuck in Shanghai for three months....
Also Japan: forbidden to use artillery or airforce and the enemy is supplied without possibility to engage them.
@@alaric_ They did bomb with artillery and the airforce. That was the only way they managed to take Shanghai. Japanese infantry and tanks couldn't do shit against entrenched Chinese positions on their own. If they had no artillery or airforce the only thing they would've taken is a few isalnds in the East China Sea.
Alaric Balthi Not true
@@alaric_….the Japanese bombed the hell out of Chinese cities via air, land and sea. Chungking, later the wartime capital of China was the most bombed city of the world at the time. Shanghai 1937, the portion that was under Chinese jurisdiction was made a wasteland from Japanese artillery and bombings. Sihang warehouse, that itty bitty stretch was an exception because the International Settlement was right across, I think they still hit that building with light artillery regardless. The pockmarks on the warehouse walls shows this even today
Great video! Loved the level of detail. This rpisode is a great event of the 2sjw. Please more content of this forgotten part of ww2. The desperate strugglen for the control of every single train track and station, the brutality showed by both sides, the political games and even armed conflicts between the united front, the stalemate that ultimately pushed Japan to a war with the west that they knew was unwinnable; all these events are unknown by most people and are very interesting.
The kind of Chinese soldiers worthy of respect, no matter your faction
I was at a gaming convention in june where we recreated this battle. The chinese deployed in a model of the building while the japanese deployed on the streets. The table looked amazing. The issue was the gm didnt test the snipe mechanic and so the chinese defenders were able to keep any Japanese from getting into the building. The damn rule ignored all cover.
I had been waiting for a video on Chinese WW2 theatre for a long time.... Finally!!
Theses kinds of 20th century war strategic videos are very satisfying to watch. 💯
wow, they even built 3D map to show the warfare. this channel is really professional
Now I have no choice but to watch that movie "The Eight Hundred"
Just a suggestion to discuss and make a video about the Philippine-American War and the Philippine Thermopylae(aka the Battle of Tirad Pass)
is interesting to discuss.
You would be surprised at how many battles that were fought in WWII that was just like Stalingrad. Theirs a bunch. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
For those still arguing about PRC vs ROC regarding the war against Japanese aggression.
1) The war was a historic war fought by Chinese in China, back then Taiwan was a Japanese colony, in fact many of the island's population were supporting japan to invade China.
So to give them the credit of fighting the war is like to give credit of the Soviet war effort to Estonians, whom also collaborated with the invading Germans.
2) Today the PRC openly acknowledges the role of the KMT in fighting the Japanese, calling their war effort as the main frontal war.
So it's funny to see people saying it's surprising to see the warehouse was turned into a memorial. Yes the CPC also maintain the original look of the old Presidential Palace in Nanjing that belonged to the KMT. Where the ROC flag is still displayed today.
3) For those that aren't familiar with Chinese politics, the KMT still has a presence in the Chinese People's Congress, a minor party as part of the United Front.
The Mainland China and the island of Taiwan is still at war,
I think your confusing people giving credit to the Republic of China for fighting the Japanese rather than the Taiwanese who of course during this war fought for the Japanese. The R.O.C overwhelmingly were responsible for fighting the Japanese as opposed to the communists who avoided expending their troops and resources leading to their eventual victory in the Chinese Civil War.
@@mist7879 The entire war was fought as a defensive war, the KMT forces didn't actively seek to fight the Japanese, the Japanese just happened to be attacking the KMT held areas rather than CPC held areas. So it's far from the picture you're painting. KMT even lost a campaign in 1944, their entire front was collapsing against the japanese army short on resources.
So to claim that the KMT gave everything is simply wrong, they held back as much as they can, never even considered to counter attack against the weakened japanese army. They were preparing for the Civil war to resume so they wanted to conserve their energy.
@@obsidianstatue I think you just saw too mush CCP's propaganda. Most of contents are half true, and conclusions are completely wrong.
@@EarthForces LOL typical strawman 's argument.
1) Where did I say the CPC were the main fighting force?
2) you sat up the false target of me claiming CPC is the main fighting force, and proceeded to defeat an argument you brought up yourself, and claim a "victory".
This is a textbook example of a strawman fallacy.
People like you really needs to grow a brain before spewing your nonsense.
@@M9575 LOL I challenge you to point out any part of my statement that is "half true".
The KMT forces, NEVER had the initiative throughout the war, and during Operation Ichi-go in 1944, when Japan was starved of resources, the entire KMT front collapsed.
That's like the Soviet Front collapsing after the battle of Kursk, or the Allied forces driven out of France shortly after liberating Paris.
The Japanese army back then were in an even more dire position than the German army was.
Facts are facts, the KMT NEVER held any initiative, their entire war effort was to defend. And the Japanese just happened to be attacking them.
So the idea that the KMT is heroically liberating Chinese cities or seeking out Japanese to fight, like some here are trying to portray, is an utter lie.
Fun fact: Yang huimin had beef with Dai Li, supervisor of Nationalist Secret Services, thus was thrown into jail with made-up charges.
She was promptly released after the death of Dai and concealed herself and moved to Taiwan after the collapse of the Nationalist government in 1949.
It is not until the 1975 blockbuster “Eight hundred” giving her national fame that she finally decided to uncover her true identity to the public and received heroic praise.
Dang
Exempt that she died in the 90s so this can't be true.
@@gavinsmith9871 there are 2 different movies one in the 75 and 2020, one is made by Taiwan, one is made by China (surprisingly this one was allowed to be make at all since the CCP is usually very allergic to the NRC)
@@lichsuchientranh2910 Ya I realized that after I posted my comment. Lol.
@@lichsuchientranh2910 Logic:
Taiwan (ROC) uses ROC flag, so it is very sensitive, which is related to Taiwan's independence.
The NRA (ROC) is less sensitive because the NRA has nothing to do with Taiwan's independence
CPC also used the NRA logo during the Sino Japanese War and was included in the NRA, so the ROC Flag often appears
Thanks to these 452 brave soldiers who defend the Sihang Warehouse that encourage Chinese army to fight Japanese, the result was Japanese could only occupied 20% of China territory and at last Chinese wins againts Japanese together with the Allies
As a battlefield player, this reminds me of operations/breakthrough. Thanks for sharing this!
This battle proves that modern weapons and equipment can even the odds between a few hundred men and 20,000 enemies
During this time the Japanese used 38 Shikis (Type 38) which bolt action rifles as their main rifles. As stated in the video the Chinese main weapon was the Hanyang 88 rifle, aslo bolt action. Both sides had similar infantry weapons with the Japanese having more armor and artillery
Or how modern weapons gave the defense a large advantage over the offense. The disparity is open wide during WW1 when usual tactics of infantry and cavalry charges are bloodily repelled by MG and artillery fire...
Thank you for the quality content. Appreciated.
Next do battle for Wuhan please. It’s very hard to find Information on it
You mean bats vs humans? I think the humans lost that one.
@@Barwasser 🤡
@@Barwasser 🤡
@@Barwasser suuuuure bats
That name still gives me an unpleasant reaction... wuhan... 😖🤢
Incredible work. I feel I am looking at C&C Generals 1930’s edition. Absolutely LOVE it!!
It never ceases to amaze me who flags have so much power as to make modern military leaders do everything they can to take them down even when is it strategically meaningless.
The Sino-Japanese War doesn't get a lot of attention. Glad you made this video.
Your 3D animations have improved so much. Keep it up
The Movie Eight hundred brought me here.
The Movie is about the first major battle from imperial japanese against China in 1937, when the war didn't even started yet in Europe (world war 2 started in europe in 1939, almost 2 years later).
How can people dare to say this is propaganda, when there are actual historic footages from that time still in historic archives depicting that event, recorded by journalists. And the movie didn't even portrayed the chinese soldiers having a victory, but it was a bloody retreat, as was described in history that is even recorded and known in western history books. And the soldiers weren't even communists, they were from NRA from Chiang Kaisheks army.
Also the West, as in The League of Nations didn't lay a finger to help the chinese to fight fascism.
It's a shame and disgrace of western cinemas not putting this movie in mainstream theaters and telling the story about the brave sacrifice these chinese soldiers have made in trying to defend their dignity and country.
I have watched the movie The 800, it was epic!!!! The chinese really put up a great fight against Japan.
I just found this channel. WTF is this quality, higher than Netflix and Discovery documentaries! Wow !
Great video, didn't watch it yet but they always are
Thanks for covering a part of the war in China, it's not very well known in the west like imphal-kohima or guadalcanal or Okinawa, the surprising Chinese victory at taierzhuang (sp?) In 1938 or crushing Japanese victory in ichi-go in 44 would be cool too
15:41 Wow! What bastard to shoot someone in the back retreating after agreeing not to. I figure the Japanese at least admit it was an honorable fight.
He was salty. The IJA believed they would take the city in 3 days not 3 months.
What do you expect, that bastard is war criminal indeed, he was the mastermind of nanjing massacre
the japanese back then had no honor, they didn't abide to the Geneva Conventions and launched surprise attacks before they even declared war on another nation...they would do what ever it takes to win a war..
The IJA was not honourable by any definition. You can argue about the IJN being honourable, but not the IJA. The stuff IJA soldiers did when not supervised is utterly messed up
@@EroticOnion23 I lost braincells trying to comprehend your logic
Thank you for the informative video. Please produce more videos regarding the Sino - Japanese War such as the Battle of Changsha, Battle of Taierzhuang or even the Battle of Guilin. Keep up the good work. Cheers.
May history never forget their sacrifice for their land
Too bad for many years it was probably forgotten in China (that’s why the memorial was created so late) because the CCP won the China civil war and probably didn’t want to publicize the Nationalist in a good way.
And the delicious take away food they make
@@johnl.7754 it is better to be late than absent, things have changed so much after Deng’s era. Roc has its recognition throughout history books which is included in basic education
Outstanding! Very detail and accurate! Animation is awesome! Thank you for preserve and introduce this history to the world. Let our fallen heroes will always be remembered. My respect to you.
When do you realize that Hirohito is Xerxes.
Thank you sharing this amazing historic event. Bless you and all those who sacrificed their lives to protect their loved ones and country.
My grandfather was living in the Public Concession at the time. He witnessed this war and the courage of the Chinese soldiers.
@@arkadisevyan My grandfather was a Dutch-Jew. He was living in Shanghai at the time. This is not propaganda. It's the facts, he saw it with his own eyes. He told us about it years later. And these soldiers are not CCPs. They are KMT. Allies of Britain and the United States during World War II. If you don't know the history. Please don't talk nonsense here.🤐
@@arkadisevyanI haven't seen a movie about this history. If I have the chance, I'll watch it.
Watch 'The 800' with subtitles it's a great movie
@@arkadisevyan My grandfather was just an ordinary businessman. How could he go to the battlefield in person. At that time, on the other side of the river, where the fighting was fighting, even war correspondents could not be there in person. They could only observe the battle with civilian binoculars.
@@sfr7916Okay, I'll go search for this movie.
Thank you Kings and Generals Team
Plot twist of history :
A Nazi member saved 300.000 Chinese civilians from invading Japanese soldiers in Nanjing in 1937.
While...
Japanese diplomat saved thousands of German Jews during WWII.
So much bravery and courage by a few! Great video too!
Xie: "I ain't letting go of this defense."
Japan: "Not on my watch-"
"I SAID, I ain't letting go of this defense."
*drags out heavy artillery* "We'll see about that..."
*Several hours later*
"Dude wtf"
I've never heard of this before. Great video.
As an overseas Chinese , I am proud of the heroes who fought the fascist japanese in WW2
Yea, the Chinese nationalists trainnee by Fascists xD
Reading about this battle gives me goosebumps everytime.
Really well done video K&G. Give yourselves a pat on the back!
Very nice. I kinda want to see this channel do a series on the ogaden war
A soldier doesn't fight because of what is in front of him, he fights for what is behind him.
Thank you for brining this important battle to light. Would love it if you could do some episodes on japanese treatment of POW in China and SE asia
Danke!
This is like taking down a castle in the middle ages but with rifles and artillery.
- climbing with lather, digging tunnels, shoot the walls
Call of War is actually fun if you're willing to learn. I recommend everyone to try it out (using the Kings and Generals link, of course)
Yep....until you meet gold spammer
@@niazjaffar7022 I know it's something people like to complain about, but it's really not that bad. Still less P2W than 99% of mobile games, and expensive for spammers too, not to mention that players get free gold quite easily.
@@th5154 I know it's better than other...but I'll bet any newcomers will rage quit after they meet 2 or3 spammers in a row....they will destroy your kd..... there's nothing to do....only dedicated player will continue after that
@@niazjaffar7022 that's why I said "if you're willing to learn :D
@@th5154 my bad;)