@@kerjiokchuolboth5983 The Adventist add the keeping of Sabbath nad believing in their prophet for salvation , so it is not for them only by faith alone.
@@kerjiokchuolboth5983 Obedience to the gospel not to the works of the law which are not kept by anybody they are called in the Bible “ filthy rags”. Our works are for sanctification not salvation, Jesus works are the only ones for our salvation.
Obedience to God is by keeping his laws_teachings and instructions.... One of which is keeping the Sabbath. Satan comes in different forms to deceive people with wrong interpretation of Scripture__No where in the Bible that says_keeping the Sabbath is a choice. All early Christian and the Apostles kept it by obedience to God's commandments... Jesus said He has come to fulfill the law not to abolish it..
Yes Jim Staley! Standing up for truth! This is the best Sabbath debate I've ever heard and I've kept Sabbath since I was 8 years old and my parents found the way. Read your Bible. Pray. Come out of her my people Amen!
What Jim Stanley ? Debating yah's truth?A Ai have not spoken to no other nation psalm i47 Amos 3. What was he saying ? The Sabbath was made for man? In six days he made heaven and earth for s d a or man so he can remove Israel. Yes yes gentle man you believe Isreal will never be a nation again and replace it What else The world Remember is for the whole world ?he asked Israel to remember the Sabbath he taught them in exodus 16 and reminded them in 20. But Jim what what why are you robing the lambs ? Speak the word truthfully The Messiah did not teach you Sabbath it was his tradition as a Jew you are a stranger or foreign or joiner wait on isiah 56
so what? I bet you also didn't murder anyone. Good for you. Romans 10:6 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. . You seem to be doing just the opposite. You want to be justified by holy days and spread the word of how great you keep the Sabbath. Make no mistake. Paul is clear. Christians are saved by faith not by practices and those true believers share the Good News of Jesus Christ not bragging about the Sabbath.
@@metathoughts732 so what...dont try to explain the Bible like how u like just follow it .... so u say GOD the father and the son are wrong for keeping the sabbath... So u accept roman Catholic come from Rome the sun GOD teaching Sunday the sun worshiping day or God the father Saturday sabbath which one u chose
We Gentiles have been grafted into the vine and are as adopted sons. True Christians are the Isreal of God. The defiant Jews were cut off. Pray that they too come to know Yeshua.
@@kac0404 we are no longer under the ceremonial aspects of the law. We’re still to spurn idols and murder is forbidden. The question is whether the Sabbath was ceremonial or moral law. If we are to believe it was ceremonial then 9 of the 10 Commandments are moral and just the 4th commandment is ceremonial. This seems odd.
@@elkellenhabla ; KJVB Deuteronomy 31: 24-26 Sanctuary Moses laws which led to JESUS CHRIST BLOOD SACRIFICE were nailed to the cross NOT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS THEY STAND FOR EVER AND EVER
Congratulations. Did you follow your first Sabbath as stated in Exodus 16;29. Did you remain at your home for that 24 hour period? Or did you break this command by going to "church" and other destinations such as drive to a park? *Everyone is to stay where he is on the seventh day; no one is to go out.* What does this part mean?
You will find there is much more to the 4th commandment than most talk about. 1. It is the only day God made Holy. 2. It was made for man, not man for the sabbath. 3. It contains God's seal between Himself and mankind. ( A seal always contains 3 points. The Name, the Title and the jurisdiction. Remember: this is a Holy Day of worshipping our Creator. Honoring Him. The very thing satan was coveting, desiring and extremely jealous about. The satanic push to change the sabbath confirms satan trying to appoint his own day of worship. Most do not understand this because bible prophecy is not studied. Don't take my word for it. Study it out for yourself.
@@bradrininger848 have you ever read Exodus 16:29? Commandment @24 of 613 of Torah "Bear in mind that the LORD has given you the Sabbath; that is why on the sixth day he gives you bread for two days. Everyone is to stay where he is on the seventh day; no one is to go out." And if so, what do you make of it?
I was really interested on hearing the reason Sunday christians keep the first day, but as soon as the second guy(don’t know his name) said we can’t just use the Bible… he lost me. The Bible is our instruction book and if you can’t defend Sunday worship solely from that book then you CANNOT defend it. Period 📍
It's true about Saturday Sabbath I have been spoken to from Father Jehovah in 2014 when I was chained to alcohol and had a demon haunting me! Father warned me that morning after the Holy Spirit revealed my sins to me that I am judgemental a liar and a hypocrite I was surprised because I thought I overcame all that and was just a drunk. But Father told me I must humble myself and then said If I obey no harm would come to me People were trying to kill me and people were getting murdered around me and even my newlywed husband after only 2 months of marriage! He wouldn't surr to God. But after I started practicing Sabbath in 2015 because I felt convicted, I started staying out later and later around 2019. I had a bad feeling something bad was going to happen because I forgot Father is slow to anger. But sure enough, stay out getting rent money order and shopping past dark, me and my 14 lb puppy was attacked on the bus coming back from Walmart! This dog was around 200 lbs! His face was as big as Sammys whole body! I went into shock and couldn't look back while the dog had Sammy. I just kept on pulling on his leash. And it seemed like forever but that monster just let go! And I took Sammy and put him on the seat and hovered over him! The dog started biting my arm but I thought it was strange I didn't feel any pain! Even in shock I knew I would feel something horrific! But nothing! I leaped with Sammy underneath me to the front by the bus driver and you know as I was screaming hysterically I only saw a little blood! It was mine and out of that whole ordeal Sammy only had 2 small bites to his right paw opposite of the attack and I only had 2 small bites that didn't need stitches! So you know what the chances of that are? 0 Sammy should have been ripped apart DEAD! I should have been ripped up as well with a dog that size! I saw a demon in the dogs eyes when he came after Sammy. But Father didn't punish me that night, He saved me with the angels. I wasn't sure even still because my faith was pathetic for a long time, but we had 2 more attacks after that exactly 2 months from the first one and this time i was walking too far from home and couldn't understand what i did wrong, and Holy Spirit let me know and thr last attack nothing happened at all because I was only going around the block. So I know absolutely that for those who don't obey the Sabbath but believe they love God, They are not Born again in the Spirit! If we are Born again and sin against God we will either be attacked by the devil or Father will chastise us somehow. We cannot serve 2 masters and when we sin we give authority to the devil! Please teach everyone how important God's holy Sabbath is because if it wasn't important He would have never made it a 10th commandment!!
@@ce3417 quote----Christianity existed before the Bible was compiled, so there were traditions and they must be considered too.--unquote I quote you: Christianity existed before the Bible was compiled," So, the Sabbath commandment is OVER 4000 years old!! What "traditions" existed in the Garden of Eden?????? Consider this: Jesus concludes, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath” (Mark 2:27-28) ORIGINAL HEBREW says this: The Sabbath was made for THE man, not THE man for the Sabbath. Who is "THE MAN"??? ADAM!!!!!!! ---------btw--lets say, "tradition" says, Mary is NOT the mother of Jesus. true or false? How do you know the answer??? Let's say, "tradition" says a Catholic can kill a Jew when that Jew refuses a demand by a Catholic. True or false??? How do you prove/disprove it??? ----Let's say "tradition" says God is not the creator. How will you prove/disprove it? If that "tradition " DOES NOT agree with the WORD of God, then IT MUST be false!!!! THe WORD of God says the seventh day is the Sabbath!!! FACTS" --The ONLY day GOD RESTED ON--Seventh day!! Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD BLESSED--Seventh dayt---Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD SANCTIFIED--Seventh day--Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD NAMED--Seventh day--SAbbath--Isaiah 58:13 --The ONLY day GOD DECLARES as HIS HOLY DAY--Seventh day--Isaiah 58:13, Matthew 24:36-41
This isnt correct. The apostles put together the bible, the doctrines, and traditions. You cannot accept their bible but not their traditions… it doesnt make sense. Therefore, the orthodox christian church is the only correct church
@@xoNatalieShaw quote---The apostles put together the bible, the doctrines, and traditions. --unquote Nope--wrong Traditions are usually ,man-made-----What the apostles taught, ONLY what they were taught by Jesus!!!!---- --quote---You cannot accept their bible but not their traditions--unquote Quote a "tradition" that is not in the bible and taught by the apostles. ----quote---Therefore, the orthodox christian church is the only correct church--unquote ABOSLUTELY NOT!!!! Do you FOLLOW the TEACHINGS of Christ??? I guarantee you do NOT!!! ----Which version of the Bible is closest to the original Hebrew? The Geneva Bible was the first English version to be translated entirely from the original languages of Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. ------Today, some of the leading Baptists even have admitted that the Sunday Sabbath isn’t in the scriptures: “There was and is a commandment to keep holy the Sabbath day, but that Sabbath day was not on Sunday…It will be said, however, and with some show of triumph, that the Sabbath was transferred from the seventh to the first day of the week….where can the record of such a transaction be found? Not in the New Testament. Of course, I quite well know that Sunday did come into use in early Christian history as a religious day, as we learn from the Christian Fathers and other sources. But what a pity that it comes branded with the mark of paganism, and christened with the name of a sun god, when adopted and sanctioned by the papal apostasy, and bequeathed as a sacred legacy to Protestantism!” Dr. Edward Hiscox, author of The Baptist Manual. -----FACTS" --The ONLY day GOD RESTED ON--Seventh day!! Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD BLESSED--Seventh dayt---Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD SANCTIFIED--Seventh day--Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD NAMED--Seventh day--SAbbath--Isaiah 58:13 --The ONLY day GOD DECLARES as HIS HOLY DAY--Seventh day--Isaiah 58:13, Matthew 24:36-41 >>>>>FACTS: About the catholic church: Change the Sabbath" Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her,- she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority."- "A Doctrinal Catechism," by Rev. Stephen Keenan, page 174. "The Catholic Church of its own infallible authority created Sunday a holy day to take the place of the Sabbath of the old law."- Kansas City Catholic, Feb. 9, 1893. "The Catholic Church, . . . by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday."- Catholic Mirror, official organ of Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893. "Ques.- Which is the Sabbath day? "Ans.- Saturday is the Sabbath day. "Ques.- Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday? "Ans.- We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (A. D. 336), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday ."- "The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine," by Rev. Peter Geiermann, C. SS. R.., page 50, third edition, 1913, a work which received the "apostolic blessing" of Pope Pius X, Jan. 25, 1910. What was done at the Council of Laodicea was but one of the steps by which the change or the Sabbath was effected. The date usually given for this council is 364 A. D. FACTS: Biblical Proof the seventh day (Saturday) IS the Sabbath Matt 27:62 The next day, the one after Preparation Day......(.Saturday) Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, (Sunday) Mark 15:42 - It was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath). Mark 16:1-2 - When the Sabbath was over,(After sunset Saturday) Mark 16:9 When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week (Sunday) Luke 23:54 It was Preparation Day, (friday) and the Sabbath was about to begin Luke 23:56 Then they went home and prepared spices and perfumes. But they rested on the Sabbath in obedience to the commandment.( Just before sunset Friday) Luke 24:1 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, .... (Sunday) John 19:31 Now since it was preparation day (Friday), in order that the bodies might not remain on the cross on the sabbath, for the sabbath day of that week was a solemn one, John 19:42 because of the Jewish day of Preparation (Friday), since the tomb was close at hand, they laid Jesus there. 42 And so, because it was the day of preparation for the Jewish Passover John 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, (Sunday)
Of course not, Christians understand the law was a foreshadowing of what was to come, Christ. As stated by Paul. “Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ” (Colossians 2:16-17)
@@inchristalone25 If truly you know and understand the scriptures as you presume, then please answer these seven (7) questions without skipping any one. 1. Is there a substance without a shadow? 2. Is a shadow not a reflection of the substance? 3. Why did the Gentiles on the Sabbath day plead with the Apostles to rehearse the words that they’ve heard again to them on the next Sabbath day as recorded in Acts 13: 42, 44 if they were not observing the Sabbath even when Christ has died, resurrected and ascended up to heaven? And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. Acts 13:42 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God. Acts 13:44 4. Why will all flesh, all mankind come to worship before God from one Sabbath to another in the new heavens and in the new earth as recorded in Isaiah 66:22-23 if the Sabbath is no longer valid? For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. Isaiah 66:22 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. Isaiah 66:23 5. Why did Jesus say that the Sabbath was made for man as recorded in Mark 2:27 if not for the benefit of man? And He said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Mark 2:27 6. Does being Lord over something mean that it is no longer valid? Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. Mark 2:28 7. If the law nor the Sabbath is no longer valid, why then is a righteous man not lawless nor disobedient according to 1 Timothy 1:9-10? Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 1 Timothy 1:9 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; 1 Timothy 1:10
@@Elizabeth-rk3do I gave a condition that if @JanelleH knows and understands the scriptures as he/she claims, then he/she should answer all the 7 questions without skipping anyone. Besides, it wasn’t you that I directed those 7 questions to. Have you answered all the 7 questions in my response to @JanelleH? You are attempting to say things and answer questions that you have no proper Biblical knowledge nor understanding. This is how people fail in exams.
@@inchristalone25 the gentiles were without God in the world , they had no law.paul said ,do not trouble the gentiles but let them refrain from god worship , blood s,ect read Romans 11isreal fell not beyond recovery no one dear take their place or replace . salvation is of the Jews , Zachariah 8. People from nations will say I will go with you because the almighty is with you the people of law the chosen , the children of Israel the people of the book .so gentiles so playing your 🎮 game time up put the book away . have you no fear?
@@inchristalone25 -Sacrificial of lamb was the shadow of Jesus death on the cross. No animal sacrificed today. Jesus has died & His own blood covered our sins.
The law is also covenental and we are not under the law of mosses our covenant is with Yeshua and the new covenant the law was fulfilled Mat 5:18 ISV because I tell all of you with certainty that until heaven and earth disappear, not one letter or one stroke of a letter will disappear from the Law until everything has been accomplished.
@@dma719 it’s not the law it’s the Commandments that mentions the Sabbath Revelation 22:14 - Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
@@dma719 Heb 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
@@yvonnezackery4080 you sound like a baby. You don't know the depth of these establishments . you are not the problem These leaders are not build on truth The are glad to eat up the happy one Yes the Sabbath is a joy You can keep it but the root need to be understood You must rightly divide can't take what Belong to someone else and glory your self into it being unthankful as if someone spoke to you it evil
A very good debate. I was a Pentecostal Christian for 20+ years and know how difficult it was to come out of tradition, which is the case for a majority of Christians. Only through Bible study and Holy Spirit guidance does one truly understand and keep the Sabbath. Part of the Three Angels message in Revelation is a warning to God’s professed people to come out of Babylon (confusion and false system of worship).
@@kac0404 quote---Keeping the sabbath was part of the law that Christ took away. “He . . . canceled out the certificate of death consisting of decrees against us . . .; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. --unquote OBVIOUSLY you have NOT read the Bible!! The women follerss kept the Sabbath that Friday night --Lukr 23:56 ALL the disciples kept the Sabbath in acts!!! That means Jesus is a SINNNER!! He NEGLECTED to tell anyone the Sabbath was abolished at the cross!!! That means Jesus is a sinner by ommision!!! NOT qualified to be our savior!!! ----
@@kac0404 quote-- But what does that really prove?:--unquote IT proves they obeyed God!@!@! ---quote---The disciples didn't yet understand that ALL OF THE CEREMONIAL LAW OF MOSES WOULD BE ABOLISHED!!!--unquote Nope--Not all!!! Many Jews STILL keep all of them!!! btw---THe Sabbath Commandment was NOT a cermonial law!!! That would make ALL the Commandments a ceremony. --You seem to think the only reason they kept the Sabbath was becsuse taught them. What is your problem? THey were ALL JEWS!!!! FRom the day they were born, the OT was read to them. THey attended church every Sabbath. THEY KNEW when the Sabbath is!!! BY age 14, they are considered an adult after going through a ritual. THey MUST be able to recite from the OT whatever the Rabbis wants, WORD FOR WORD!!! With NO beads to help them remember!!!
@@kac0404 quote---What does Acts 21:26 mean? To prove to legalistic Jewish Christians that Paul still reveres the Mosaic law, the elders of the church in Jerusalem have asked him to help four men complete what was likely a Nazirite vow. A Nazirite vow is a voluntary, temporary commitment to total dedication to God. The adherents, in this case men, abstain from anything made from grapes and do not cut their hair. At the end of their vow, they must present a sacrifice and shave their heads. If they become unclean, particularly by accidentally contacting a corpse, they must go through an eight-day cleansing ritual and restart their time (Numbers 6:1-21). Since the men's purification takes seven days (Acts 21:27), some scholars think this is a reset-the difference between eight and seven days may be because Luke counts days in the Greek way and not the Hebrew way. But the offering for a reset is merely two birds each; eight birds wouldn't cost much. The offering to fulfill the vow includes a female lamb, a male lamb, a ram, unleavened bread, loaves of bread, crackers, oil, and a grain and drink offering. Such an expense for four men would go a long way in proving Paul's devotion to the Law and be a sacrifice for someone who supports himself on the field (Acts 18:2-3; 1 Corinthians 9:4-7; 1 Thessalonians 2:9). Paul arrived in Jerusalem with several men-Jews and Gentiles-who came from modern-day Turkey, Greece, and Macedonia. He presents money collected by their home churches for the church in Jerusalem (Acts 20:4). One of these is Trophimus from the city of Ephesus in Asia, the large district in western Turkey. At some point in this week, Jews from Asia see Paul with Trophimus in the city. When they later see Paul in the temple, they assume Trophimus is with him. Legally, Trophimus is allowed to be outside the temple, in the court of Gentiles. To bring an uncircumcised Gentile into the temple is against the Mosaic law and, since it would be the defilement of a religious structure, it is also against the Roman law. The false witnesses accuse Paul as he stands amidst the temple crowd. The people beat him, and the tribune of the Roman outpost arrests him (Acts 21:27-36). ------As I have said b4--The sabbath feasts WERE abolished at the cross. NOT the Jewish laws of purification!!! Nor many others!! Sabbth feasts days-POINTING to the sacrifice of Christ!!! I NEVER said ALL the 613 laws were abolished!! --quote--- Animal Sacrifices: Acts 21:26--unquote-- ESV Then Paul took the men, and the next day he purified himself along with them and went into the temple, giving notice when the days of purification would be fulfilled and the offering presented for each one of them. As i said--the purification laws WERE NOT abolished. ----quote---Circumcision: Acts 16:3 Paul recognized God's favor on Timothy's life and wanted him to accompany them in ministry, but Paul had Timothy circumcised first because of the significant Jewish community living in the region, and everyone knew that Timothy's father wasn't a Jew. ---Was Timothy a Jew?? YES!!! But, gentiles DO NOT need to be circumsized!!! -----quote---Temple worship: Acts 24:12--unquote 13 Nor can they prove the things of which they now accuse me. 14 But this I confess to you, that according to the Way which they call a sect, so I worship the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets. ---What is the problem there?? btw--He does NOT say anything about worship in the temple!!! He keeps the Laws--many were given ONLY to the Jews and knows what the prophets said!!!
As a Seventh-day Adventist for over 60 years, after having been a Sundaykeeper, I say to Pastor Jim… congratulations on a solidly biblical presentation of this crucial topic. This debate will continue to rage as we draw nearer to Christ’s return.
Yes the 7th day is the Sabbath oh yes .who should remember .?who was told to remember who was it given too what ,time place .let non suffer by medaling in other men's matters .why move Israel and juda and the stranger is teaching what?
@@kac0404 the almighty is speaking to Israel through isiah no church involved remember it's the book of the children of Israel .he have not spoken to no other psalm 147 . No metaphorical word for word . Christians .stay in Galatians, Ephesians ect.
@@kac0404 there is nothing called.he fee Sabbatharians, nothing will be going on in heaven this is the Hebrew the Messiah is on earth the land of Israel his feet shall stand on mount olive 🫒 Israel return isiah speaking about the land everything onearth .read Zechariah 8:20-23 nation will say to Jews I am coming with you because I hear the almighty is with you Sabbath is not for Christians Paul is their apostles Ephesians Galatians Romans , Corinthians just be good if want to keep Sabbath as a stranger isiah 56 in future you will get a place in the house ten your burnt offerings will be accepted but now practice Israel way it's a good thing psalm92
No excellent job Jim Stanley is not standing on any scripture ..he is a Christian ,a gentle the almighty never spoke to him , the gentiles have inherited lies Jeremiah 16:19.he is playing with fire the book is not his , scripture are the law and the prophets Sabbath is part of the law for the children of Israel what is he doing in isiah 66?has he ever observed a new moon 🌙 2the covenant of Sabbath is made with who? the children of Israel the book never said a seal 🛑 stop it.while you are busy isiah 66about new moon and Sabbath please look at Zachariah 8the matter is all Nations will say I am going with Israel and juda . Zachariah 8:23 case close I am holding to their garment their fringe because I hear or understand that yah is with them the chosen people so clear the way don't block it that the children can find the path
It just so happens that today Friday 14th, 2023 is the day that I chose to begin keeping The Sabbath. I must add, that there were doubts in me on whether I should keep The Sabbath or not. But something inside of me kept telling me I should, because it’s part of the Ten Commandments. I kept thinking that if I’m breaking one I’m breaking all of them. But just as soon as I was about to begin my Sabbath, I came across this debate which by the way; it’s the best debate I have witnessed. I truly congratulate these two teachers. They were both fantastic presenting their point of view on The Sabbath. I must say that this debate strengthened my belief of The Sabbath, and Pastor Jim put it in a clearer way for me. I honestly think that our LORD & SAVIOR JESUS wants us to keep all The Ten Commandments. Like Pastor Jim said, how can you not keep The Sabbath? By not keeping The Sabbath your abolishing the other commandments which means we can then murder or commit adultery without being convicted? These laws are the ones keeping us closer to GOD. I believe The Ten Commandments were given to all of us. How can I not keep The Sabbath when GOD himself made it a day of rest and also holy? I will most definitely try my best to serve THE LORD with all my heart, with all my soul, and with all my strength. Keep it Holy, for HE is Holy. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
Thank you my friend. You have made my day. That debate was filmed over 10 years ago and I am grateful to the Father that He is still using it today. You won't regret it. He will lead you and bless you for your try. Stay in love and let Him guide you closer to Him every day.
@@theTruthwillsetyoufree quote--- Our Lord fulfilled the Sabbath law, for Born-Again people are EVERY DAY HOLY...--unquote Nope--He fulfilled the sacrificial sabbath.-NOT the weekly Sabbath.
@@kac0404 quote--THE SABBATH WAS ABOLISHED ----Galatians 3:16-29.--unquote I strongly suggest you read those verses again!!! What was the old covenant?? Promises made by the Israelites that they would keep Gods laws. They did NOT!!!! THe fault was theirs. ----New Covenant--God would write His Laws on their hearts!!! Nothing else changed!!! The ONLY Sabbaths that were abolished were the feast sabbaths- ALL pointing towards the sacrifice of Jesus. The weekly Sabbath pointed BACKWARDS to creation!!! Biblical Feast days They are observed by Jews and a minority of Christians. Two of the shabbath (holy assemblies) occur in spring on the first and last day of the Feast of unleavened bread (Matzot). One occurs in the summer, this is the Feast of Weeks (Shavuot). And four occur in the fall in the seventh month. ----Also, IF the weekly was abolished, then WHY dod the women followers of Jesus keep the Sabbath that Friday evening?? Luke 23_56---ALL the disciples kept the Sabbath in Acts. ALSO. the Sabbath is a PERPETUAL promise to Isreal. Exodus 31:13-14 "Speak also to the children of Israel, saying: "Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the LORD who sanctifies you. You shall keep the Sabbath, therefore, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people. Exodus 31:16-17 Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed."" Perpetual---FOREVER--NEVER ENDING!!! --Does God lie, especially to His people??? --------quote--which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, --unquote I suggest you research what the ordinances are that were given to Israel. In the second part of his second speech, Moses describes in detail the “statutes and ordinances” that God charges Israel to obey (Deut. 6:1). These rules deal with a wide array of matters, including war, slavery, tithes, religious festivals, sacrifices, kosher food, prophecy, the monarchy, and the central sanctuary. This material contains several passages that speak directly to the theology of work. We will explore them in their biblical order. In case the commandments, statutes, and ordinances in God’s covenant might come to seem like nothing but a burden to Israel, Moses reminds us that their primary purpose is to bless us. If you heed these ordinances, by diligently observing them, the Lord your God will maintain with you the covenant loyalty that he swore to your ancestors; he will love you, bless you, and multiply you; he will bless the fruit of your womb and the fruit of your ground, your grain and your wine and your oil, the increase of your cattle and the issue of your flock, in the land that he swore to your ancestors to give you. (Deut. 7:12-13) If you obey the Lord your God: Blessed shall you be in the city, and blessed shall you be in the field. Blessed shall be the fruit of your womb, the fruit of your ground, and the fruit of your livestock, both the increase of your cattle and the issue of your flock. Blessed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl. Blessed shall you be when you come in, and blessed shall you be when you go out…. The Lord will make you abound in prosperity, in the fruit of your womb, in the fruit of your livestock, and in the fruit of your ground in the land that the Lord swore to your ancestors to give you. The Lord will open for you his rich storehouse, the heavens, to give the rain of your land in its season and to bless all your undertakings. (Deut. 28:2-7; 11-12) Obeying the covenant is meant to be a source of blessing, prosperity, joy, and health for God’s people. As Paul says, “The law is holy, and the commandment is holy and just and good” (Rom. 7:12), and “Love is the fulfilling of the law” (Rom. 13:10).
Pastor Jim used the Word, the Bible where Chris Rosebrough mainly used uninspired men's writings. Good debate . Thank you Pastor Jim for standing up for the truth.
Yes! His inability to stick to scripture screamed at me l, how desperately he’s trying to fit his narrative. He also twisted scripture when speaking about the holy days and feasts being a shadow of things to come
The question is who made sense. God is the God of the universe. His day and night is not confined to the sun light and shadow of the earth which causes our day and night. You go to the moon. Your day and night will no longer be 24 hours. But then wherever you are, you are supposed to observe Sabbath from sunset to sunset. For a start, if you are in US, you go to Norway and try to observe the Sabbath there especially from the month of April till August. Have a great time resting there by observing the Sabbath. By the time you return, your business will no longer remain the same due to non operation for months.
@@emmacarter6792 quote--- He also twisted scripture when speaking about the holy days and feasts being a shadow of things to come.--unquote That is EXACTLY what they were. ALL pointing to the coming of Jesus and His sacrifice!!!
@@mitchellosmer1293 They were a shadow, and as per all the other shadows, are not a part of the New Covenant. Look at Hebrews: Moses -> not part of the New Covenant, replaced by Jesus. (Servant -> Son) The OT sanctuary -> not part of the New Covenant, replaced by Jesus. (Building -> God's son) The Levitical priesthood -> not part of the New Covenant, replaced by Jesus. (Levi's priesthood -> Melchizedek's priesthood) The Sabbath -> Not part of the New Covenant, replaced by Jesus. (Day of Rest -> Believer's rest).
Please pray for me and my family to make a final decision to start keeping the Sabbath. Pastor Jim. I am Sunday keeper, but your teachings touch my heart . I need help.
Did Jesus and the apostles keep the sabbath? John 5:17-18 17 In his defense Jesus said to them, “My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working.” 18 For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
Yes the Messiah kept the Sabbath he a Jew salvation is of the Jew ,as his custom was so read the law and prophets the almighty taught Israel his people he took from the house of bound age exodus how to keep he spoke to no other nations (no church)psalm147 Israel speak to the children of Israel .the Messiah father can do want he want ,how he want Israel listen and obey return oh children of Israel
@@hannahbowers1469 John 5: 18 For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
@@gardysauveur529 in Matthew , Messiah said I didn't come to destroy the law and the prophets .if you are an Israeli or a Jew the law of Sabbath is for you if not do as you like join as a stranger .but remember salvation is of juda
I was Sunday worshiper Now I become a Sabbath keeper Now 🙏 I found it very interesting to keep God Sabbath 🙏 I love it because I feel like am worshiping the right day in the Santurary ,,, my heart mind and soul are free Now cause am walking in the truth
Shalom! Many Hebrew Israelites have been led into believing that Sunday is the right day of worship, not knowing that the Roman and Gentiles leaders changed the Shabbat to Sunday in order to celebrate the Sun gods. The Church tried to holds that they observe Sunday as Jesus’ resurrection day, but if that was the case, then, their “Jesus” would be risen in less that two days after His crucifixion. Because sundown to the next sundown is one day, it is not possible to get three days base on what the Scriptures said about YAHOSHUAH’S death, burial and resurrection. Dr. Moreh Yeshu
@@Yah150 what are you a Doctor of? Obviously it is not theology. It is common knowledge that the ancient Jews considered that any part of a day constituted a whole day when using a phrase like Jesus did reoeatedly "in 3 days I will rise". Jesus died about 3 in the afternoon on Friday, was in the grave all day Saturday, and rose in the morning on Sunday. In the Jewish reckoning, this was "3 days". It is foolish and ignorant in the extreme to employ your argument. This is a matter of change of Covenant and what the Apostles taught and practiced, as the Gospel was committed to them, not to you or I. Paul was far more an expert on this subject than anyone alive today, and he clearly refutes this Sabbath continuation idea, ss well as the practice of all Jewish ceremonial laws and customs. Jesus is the end of the Law for all who believes in Him. It is not helpful to use the Law for any purpose than to reveal sin to the lost and unrefenerate. It is a schoolmaster to lead one to Christ. The Spirit then empowers one by Grace to Agape Love that exceeds the righteousness of the Law. Anyone who studies Galatians and Hebrews could never be deceived into being a Sabbatarian.
@user-sm3qh5xq1y Sorry but u r condemned by not desiring to study for urself. The 7th day Sabbath cocoons the entire GOSPEL of Jesus. Study to show urself approved unto God. Also Galations unequivocally states that we are ALL Israel in Jesus. Revelation 22 states that u CANNOT enter heaven without keeping Gods commandments. U have been deceived by the Jesuit counter reformation interpretation of Gods Word. Keeping Gods commandments is rhe manifestation of the Spirit within.
@@andrewchurney8864 Suggestion: Go back to ur studies Andrew.Romans 3:31 "Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law".....The NEW COVENANT/GOSPEL of JESUS IS Law in Heart and mind. Heb 8 and 10ie: Holy Spirit MANIFESTING Gods Holy Commandments. Sorry, but u aint going to heaven b/c u have no Holy Spirit states Revelation 22:14
Pastor Jim has said some so profound:- It is not about salvation but whether we should keep the sabbath or not. It is about obedience even as we claim to love christ. - WHO have the testimony of Jesus and KEEP His COmmandments. Jesus obeyed the FATHER and so we should.
I don't imagine not keeping the Sabbath will keep anyone from salvation, but I can guarantee you that keeping the Sabbath day holy would be beneficial to anyone who does it. And that goes without question.
I have a co-worker that keeps the sabbath but I wish her tongue would rest then too. She’s very condescending and has a spirit of self-righteousness and jealousy. She prides herself on keeping all the feasts but is incapable of looking at her heart. The cup is clean on the outside but that inside ……😮 and you don’t want to stand next to her during worship. She raises her hands not just high but wide and spins back and forth in your personal space. Reminds me of the Pharisee raising his hands and thanking God loudly that he is not like those sinners.
@jeanclaude7018 you have no rights to put your self in Israel comanment your law is in Acts 15 about blood and kill murder , you came in by faith leave Israel as a nation law your remember is lot wife stay quiet in you organisation book is the of the children of Israel and juda and then are returning
I am a Jew and I can say that Yeshua kept Shabbat perfectly and I invite Pastor Staley to come to Israel , he is welcome with love, you search for truth without any hate ..God bless you
Yes he did, because he came to fulfill it, HE is Lord of the Sabbath he came to bring rest to all who will believe unto him. Cease from your religious works and rest in Him.
@@hoxiefam6731 Fulfill is not to end. It is to accomplish. I always find it interesting that no Christian would ever violate any of the 10 Commandments EXCEPT for #4! The first 3 commands are about God. The last 6 about man. God meets man on the Sabbath! It's that simple. 🙏
@@eswn1816 when Jesus was asked about the commandments he said they could be summed up as Love the Lord your God with all your heart all your mind and all your soul and love your neighbor as yourself. Everyone following each as a rulebook seem to skip over his words.
@@eswn1816 Hebrews 4 the author addresses the issue of the Jewish day of rest, the sabbath. He sets the tone saying in v3: “We who have believed have entered into rest.” Hebrews 4:8-9: “If Joshua had given them rest God would not have spoken about a later day of sabbath (rest) to come. Therefore there is a Sabbath-rest for the people of God. For anyone who enters into His rest must also cease (rest) from their own works, as God did.” This is why Jesus said in Mark 2: 27 and 28: “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath.” Jesus here made the case that HE is the Sabbath-rest long predicted with each day off every Jewish person took through the centuries. HE is the Sabbath-rest who was made for man because that Sabbath day off was made for man - and so was He. With each bull and goat and sheep and bird offered as a blood sacrifice it spoke to a time where a final sacrifice would be made to bring a rest between God and human kind once and for all. Jesus is that rest. Jesus brought that Sabbath-rest. But to enter into His rest, you have to cease from your own works. You have to accept the grace. And once accepted, you can’t go back to working formulas to find peace with God the Father. Once you have Jesus, as Paul stated in Romans 8: 32, you have all things. This is why Paul in his letters to the Corinthians and Colossians and as we see in Hebrews, the teaching that Jesus is our Sabbath-rest, which makes every effort on our part to make peace with the Father obsolete. Jesus is all we need. Once we have Him, it is proof we have ceased from our own works (efforts) to get to God.”
@@hoxiefam6731 Love God = Absolutely! It is also written: 1 John 5:3 KJV - "Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous." All of the commandments point to loving God and our neighbor. Loving God is to rest when God rests to both remember and honor His creation. It is not grievous (difficult). It is done with joy! 🙏
I am married w/children, Raised Pentecostal Christian and about 20 years ago had a desire/longing to begin observing the Feast Days in Bible but did not know anyone doing it and more recently (this last year) the Holy Spirit has continued to reveal in the Bible about keeping the Sabbath. So this September I made it official (so far just me, husband and children are still doing sun) and although this world (especially here in CA) is set up to go completely against keeping the true sabbath, I am doing my best to learn how to honor my Jesus and spend time with Him on the sabbath.
Jim Staley made his entire case just in his opening statement. What a wonderful gift he has to articulate and explain God’s commandments with correct historical context
Yes yes the book of the children of Israel they trying to remove the name Israel and juda the chosen people read Jeremiah 16 19 Zechariah 8 23 they will say I will go with Israel
@@kac0404 that's wrong. Christ did not abolish the Sabbath of the 10 commandments. it was the ceremonial Sabbaths that Christ fulfilled in His ministry. the annual Sabbaths were the shadows and Christ is the reality.
@@kac0404 the seventh day Sabbath of the moral law was instituted before sin entered the world. this Sabbath of YHWH, our God, points to God as the Creator of all things. while the ceremonial, annual Sabbaths were shadows and pointed to Christ and His ministries to remedy the sin problem. those Sabbaths were the ones referred to in Colossians 2, not the seventh day Sabbath. it is the seventh day Sabbath that tells us why God is worthy of our worship. why should it be abolished?
@@sharontaga9866 quote---@zalinadecaires3380 1 month ago The Sabbath is a blessing in my life. you: You wrong That is an OPINION with NO facts. PROVE him wrong!!!
@@kac0404 quote-- It was a word used in regard to the observation of the seventh day of the week (our Saturday) which God enjoined upon Israel. --unquote LOl--ROFL Jesus concludes, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath” (Mark 2:27-28). His response to the ... So, WHERE is the name "Jew" in these verses??? --quote---To the Christian, however, the Sabbath, the seventh day of the week, has no such significance.--unquote LOL--ROFL What is a "Christian"?? A FOLLOWER of the TEACHINGS of Christ!!! AGAIN: esus concludes, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath” (Mark 2:27-28). His response to the ... Where does that verse say NO Christians??? ------Why do Christians keep the Sabbath day holy? God created the world in six days, and on the seventh day He rested (see Genesis 1:1-Genesis 2:2). This seventh day is the Sabbath day. When God gave Moses the Ten Commandments, one of His commandments was to “remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy” (Exodus 20:8). ----Where in that commandment does it say ONLY for Israel???
Malakyah have nothing to do with you ,he is speaking to the children of Israel not everyone are you from yacob lineage? Area you a Hebrew ? The word must be line upon line a little here and there ,by the mouth of two or three witnesses read Jeremiah 16 19 and Zachariah 8 23 nations will say I will go with Israel and juda because I hear that God is with you
@@kac0404 Messiah spoke to the Jews they understood ,no debate on law do away or not they are law people Christians who want to get involved in other men's matters cause lots of confusion
@@kac0404 Peter was the apostle to the Jews .so he knew the context because of Israel , and juda behaviour . Paul was the gentiles apostle.in their Christian age being accepted by faith only believing on the name of Messiah .this quote from Peter came from Hosea a prophet of Israel .
Am glad you iove the Sabbath but remember to rejoice with Israel because they were given it first unto them were given the original oracle. Deut 32 as nation to rejoice with Israel his people
@@hannahbowers1469 The Sabbath was given to MAN (Adam & Eve) first, and later entrusted with Israel to be a Light to the world. The Angel in Rev. 14:7, clearly proclaims the "Everlasting Gospel": God's Judgment / the Sabbath.... to every kindred, nation, tongue and people - the whole world has the Sabbath proclaimed to them in the last book of the Bible Israel "put it (Gospel) from them" so the Apostles "turned to the Gentiles" (Acts 13:46) "And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the Word of the Lord... " Acts 13:48 God is Love!
@@loren719 You know it's so sad when our people can't devide the words of truth right l Satan has decided the whole world Even the very elect(it seam) Yeremiah 16:19 gentiles (seventh day Adventist) Gentiles will come from the end of the earth 🌎 and say surely our fathers have inherited lies lies Why are you mixing grapes and apples ? ? There was no law of sabbath for Adam and Eve Their law dress the garden The Sabbath was made for man Messiah spoke to his people Israel and juda is referred to as man You need witnesses in Hebrew 1:1-4 he made the world for Messiah a Hebrew man Man shall not live by bread only Deuteronomy 8 3 put things in order Now revelation gospel to every nation toung People A dispensation when the gentiles who was without God in the world some of them accepted the Messiah by faith they received a gift not by law Law for Israel covenant and faith in Messiah Gentile faith l in Messiah as Abraham no law except international law : don't eat blood , meat strangle ,man with mam Gentile can keep Sabbath if they love it isiah56 the strange that join them selves The Messiah is coming : to rescue and restore Joel 3 for my people Israel who they scattered and parted my land You will know the people Zachariah 8 23 nations will say I will go with Israel because I hear that God is with them The sigh of the Sabbath is on them Why is the other not wearing the blue 🔵 cord in number 15 ? All those who keep Sabbath must wear the blue ribbon l Is because Sabbath is not given to them Sorry friend wait on yahshua You are a Man of covenant don't follow the world
@@loren719 who are those stranger foreign joiner that love the Sabbath in isiah 56 if it given to the whole world Please help I need to know help with the stranger
Hi but which day is the Sabbath for Christains? I don't want to do what the Catholics changed to Sunday the sun gods day-a demon? I worship Christ everyday and my church often gather during the week for prayer & Bible study? It is a part of the 10 Commandments which was written by God's finger not Moses. Help I don't understand. I think the day should be on Saturday the day Jews do because Jesus was a Jew. Thanks
@@tonya6103….For 6 days you should work and on the Sabbath God commands us to REST! It is the Lord’s day, not Moses day. Yes, we can have a Holy Scripture (a.k.a. bible study) and all other things that are FOCUSED on God EXCEPT work. Yes, we can have “church” on Sunday with a good old fashioned fish fry after with Uncle Bob and Aunt Tilda. We can even wash our car on Sunday But Sunday is NOT the day that God says we are to REST! Hope this helps ❤
@@tonya6103 quote---Hi but which day is the Sabbath for Christains?--unquote Anyone that obeys/loves god WILL Obey the Sabbath!!! Gen 2:1-3 Thus the heavens and the earth and all their array were completed. 2* On the seventh day God completed the work he had been doing; he rested on the seventh day from all the work he had undertaken. 3God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work he had done in creation. Ex 20:8-11 8 “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. ----------any issues, remenber these: FACTS" --The ONLY day GOD RESTED ON--Seventh day!! Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD BLESSED--Seventh dayt---Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD SANCTIFIED--Seventh day--Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD NAMED--Seventh day--SAbbath--Isaiah 58:13 --The ONLY day GOD DECLARES as HIS HOLY DAY--Seventh day--Isaiah 58:13, Matthew 24:36-41 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I am a Sabbath keeper for more than 20 yrs now and I found no reason to change it back to Sunday. I always believe that the Bible contains all the truth. There's no Biblical support that we shouldn't observe the Sabbath anymore. Thank you ptr. Jim Staley.
@gjboehme How did Christians get tricked into socall worshipping the son of Mary on the Creator YAH Sabbath? Why is the son of Mary name not in the 4th Commandment? Is the son of Mary the ONE who said *(HAVE NO OTHER gods BEFORE ME)?
@@kac0404the Sabbath Law is not part of the Ceremonial Laws. It is part of the Moral Law, the Ten Commandments. I don’t know why Christians don’t understand that simple fact! I believed God has veiled it from their hearts because of unbelieved! Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy, how we have forgotten to do just that because we rather listen to somebody else’s interpretations of what they think it should be instead of fallowing the Biblical direction. Remember to keep it holy and hallow it!
@@kac0404 that’s right but the Sabbath day is grouped with the Ten Commandments, it was created in Genesis before the laws were given on Mt. Sinai! Then in Revelation only those who keep the law will eat from the tree of life!
I always believe in a God who doesn't change the rules at the middle of the game. God is the same yesterday today and forever. Wonderful brain sharpening debate. May many would watch this and be blessed and challenged to search the scriptures.
Actually when Jesus died on the cross EVERYTHING changed. Hebrews 7 11 If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood-and indeed the law given to the people established that priesthood-why was there still need for another priest to come, one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron? 18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God. “With a loud cry, Jesus breathed his last. The curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom.” - Mark 15:37-38 Romans 8:3-10 NIV For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. 2Cor. 5 Verses 14 to 21 [17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, ALL THINGS BECOME NEW. Praise God!!!!!!!!!!!!!
God's character never changes, but we would completely wrong to assume that God's future actions are easily predictable based on past experinces. Lamentations 3:22-2 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. Jesus was very clear: Luke 22:20 In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you. The Book of Hebrews in the New Testament says: Hebrews 8:6-7 "But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry that is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises. 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second."
@@donnahamilton4947 His New Covenant changed everything. Hebrews 8:6-13 "But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises. 7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. 8 But God found fault with the people and said[a]: “The days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah. 9 It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they did not remain faithful to my covenant, and I turned away from them, declares the Lord. 10 This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. 11 No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’ because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest. 12 For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more.”[b] 13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear." Amen
Great debate. Thank you pastor Jim for standing up for truth. I started keeping the Sabbath 21 years ago and I find the Sabbath is God’s true and Holy day which He sets aside for man to worship Him.
@@densar7327 Hebrews is not just talking about resting on one specific day but finding eternal rest in Christ. Jesus in Mark 2:27 said, we are not made for Sabbath that we should become the subject of the Sabbath like how the Pharisees regarded it. But now with the coming and dying and resurrection and glorification of Jesus Christ who is the Lord of the Sabbath, He turned our worship into a heart based worship in truth and in spirit and not a place or day based worship like Sabbath or Sunday (John 4:21-24). Most importantly, it is not on which day we worship that matters but who we worship on whichever day ( Rom 14:5). Keep this aside and let us all preach the gospel of Christ Jesus and His salvation.
As a Sunday keeper I see that Jim speech is straight to the point. Every word he is speaking is straight to the point. Now I see that Sabbath is the remnant church of God and it's a day that every people on this earth should respect and worship the creator. My father is a Sunday pastor but I have now decide to join Sabbath. John Huss once said, seek the truth, love the truth and defend the truth. Live life in the truth of GOD in accordance with God's word. So, for now I'd like to encourage everyone that seek the power of the Holy Spirit to understand the truth and which day to worship. For now and onwards I'll keep the Sabbath Holy until my last breath. ❤
My dad is a Sunday keeping pastor. He's been a minister over 50 years. The Holy Spirit began drawing me to keep the Sabbath two years ago. My husband and I now love the blessing of the Sabbath! I think my dad thinks it's a phase, but the LORD is only leading us into more and more truth and away from the traditions of men. Bless His Holy Name! 🙌
the day is not important anymore because Jesus has fulfill all the law until he dies, and thats where God rest, God rest when we are sinless, Jesus accomplish that
@@AdamDa1-jx8fc who is the us? You need the strong meat of the word that you may grow I have Israel laws that they may live you better be thankful rejoice with Israel and juda for giving you Messiah , a gift Those pastor churches who cause people to fall ,not Rightly dividing the words of truth . He who has my word speak it faithfully. The book belong to the children of Israel laws status and judgment these pastor give (allegories). Listen to the prophets of Israel
@@AdamDa1-jx8fc And Yeshua said :: Do my Fathers will. And the Fathers will is that we keep his Commandments and that includes the Sabbath ,And instruktions "Torah". Read the Law of Sabbath specially the 7:th year Sabbath, and then You really understand why Yeshua is the Lord over Sabbath. That's what the Holy Spirit let me see 21 years after I was baptised in the name of Jesus. It was stunning information that I never did see before.... Then I realized that God was given me the truth about his word as I had pray for since 2011. And there is more much more.
Interesting story about a friend of mine: she was a new Christian and wanted to start keeping the Sabbath and told her boss so. He asked her to first take time to meet with his wife to study the Sabbath before making such a huge decision. She told me she was afraid. I encouraged her that she knew more than she realized, and that God would guide her as she followed her convictions according to His Word. She went to her boss’s home and as she entered, the woman asked if she was ready to study the Sabbath. My friend noticed two tall stacks of books on the table. She said, yes, if we study only the Word of God. Her teacher looked at the table for a second, and said, well then I guess we have no study. Beware of theologians. Ask God to show you His truth and He will lead you. The Bible was written for people. Even children can understand enough to be saved.
@@Elizabeth-rk3do what are you saying exactly? Are you saying DEATH marks the end of your SINS?,which scripture are you quoting? If you are quoting Romans 6vs23 then you HEAVILY MISTAKEN,why am I saying so? Because there are FOUR TYPES OF DEATHS in the Bible so Romans 6 referred to BAPTISM TYPE OF DEATH(dying with Christ and resurrect with him,mortifying the deeds of the flesh,killing flesh and resurrect in spirit Because before Christ died for us we were all spiritual dead/dead in our sins(Ephesians 2vs11-),the seed of Adam(seed of sin) gave birth to all men on the planet,because of Adam our who sinned and SPIRITUALLY DIED WE WERE ALL BORN DEAD (read Romans 5:12-15) so through death of baptism that's where sins are forgiven,through baptism Christ quickened us from death no1 which we inherited from Adam through birth(in flesh),and through one(Christ) we were made alive,SO YOUR SINS DOES NOT DISSAPPEAR THE DAY YOU GO THROUGH MORTAL DEATH NO BUT THE DAY YOU BECOME A NEW CREATURE UNTO THE LORD,THE DAY YOU BECOME SPIRITUAL EVEN THOUGH YOU WILL BE STILL IN FLESH(I'm talking about spiritual man here) there's a flesh body(physical body) there's also a spiritual(he's invisible).
@@Elizabeth-rk3do And we don't inherit eternal life by mortal death NOOOOOO!! but by being saved through baptism which is the death of the deeds of flesh and start to live a new life in Christ,IF YOU DIE TODAY WITHOUT BEING SAVED YOU ARE GOING STRAIGHT TO HELL,YOU SAVED WHILE YOU ARE STILL ALIVE NOT OTHER WAY ROUND AS JEHOVHA'S WITNESSES;they are the servants of the darkness that's heresy thats a blasphemy against our Lord who made a WAY to heaven WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST INPERSONIFIED IN HIS TRUE WORD(John1:1-3&14,John 6),we have recordings in the bible where people were being saved and they never died(mortally)in order for them to enter heaven.
@@Elizabeth-rk3do how come you talk about being justified by faith yet in your initial statement you IF YOU DIE TODAY IT MEANS YOUR SINS ARE FORGIVEN,you are suppose to us the scriptures which says YOU WILL BE JUSTIFIED BY MORTAL DEATH,the whole of Rom 6 apostle Paul was addressing the issue of baptism,baptism is one of the processes to be completed unto salvation,that's exactly what the apostles of the early church preached,we are not starting a new church remember but we are joining the movement unless you have started your own
I was in my teens when I realized that Jesus is a Jewish man, who practiced the Sabbath-Friday sunset to Saturday sunsets….why did his followers divert…. Why can’t the ‘Christian church… be grown up to realize this divergence from his practice?
Not Friday sunset, morning to morning light comes first let there be light . it's not atonement everything is order day , night spring summer autumn winter
@@staceyansterling747 Christians want to teach , the chosen , the people of the book take hold of the fring and follow salvation is of the Jew it will come to pass
@@TotoPaulino First of all gentiles never kept the sabbath. It only was for the Jews. Second of all it was under the old covenant. We are in the new covenant. Thirdly, no one could keep it perfectly anyway. That's why Jesus came to fulfill the law and when we are in Christ He is are sabbath.
@@stanneufeld62 Good morning Brother Would you agree Greek and Gentile is interchangeable ? Concordance: Strong's Definitions: Ἕλλην Héllēn, hel'-lane; from G1671; a Hellen (Grecian) or inhabitant of Hellas; by extension a Greek-speaking person, especially a non-Jew:-Gentile, Greek. In Acts 18:4 the Bible says: "And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks." Acts 18:4 "And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath." Acts 13:42 These two verses show that the Gentiles and or Greeks observed the Sabbath. I struggled with and wrestled with GOD about the Sabbath. GOD won when I surrendered. It was a battle until GOD asked if I loved my family more than living in LOVING obedience to HIM. (John 14:15). Not saying that's your struggle...but, if the truth is set before us and we choose to go against what is revealed, we may have a heart condition. Blessings🙏🏾📖🔥❤
Wonderful put!!! I'm for keeping the Sabbath. It truly is a gift from God. One in which I'm making arrangements to put into place and practice in my own home and life.
Interestingly the Bible tells us about all kinds of Gifts but never mentions the Sabbath. 1 Corinthians 12:28 And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues. (sic) and some to sit around on Saturdays.
Been observing it for sometime now . At first a little difficult because old habits are hard to correct . Also cleaning up what I eat . Was raised on pork but know now it is not for human consumption. Even Noah knew difference between clean and unclean .
@@metathoughts732 quote---1 Corinthians 12:28 And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues. (sic) and some to sit around on Saturdays. unquote -WHY did you mis-quote that???? 1 Corinthians 12:28 And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues. -So, you consider those that keep the seventh day Sabbath as "sitting around"?
The Apostles used the Sabbath to go to meetings of unsaved Jews and share the gospel, risking life and limb. Do you keep the Sabbath as the Apostles did? Or do you just rest up?
There's a reason why the fourth commandment says *REMEMBER* the Sabbath. Because people have forgotten that the 7th day of the week is Saturday. Through reading the scriptures, it's also important to bear in mind we don't keep the Sabbath for righteousness, we aren't under the law but grace. However that doesn't mean we don't follow the commandments, but rather our reasons for following the commandments have changed. How many times do the scriptures read "if you love me, follow my commands?" So for me, I keep the Sabbath because I love God and that is the way I show it.
Yes, the Israelites should remember the Covenant made in the wilderness in Exodus. But what the Romans and the Chinese have to remember who never came out from the Egyptian slavery?
The only reason Yahweh says "Remember " because this law is not a natural law,it is not written in the hearts of men like other laws. Each of us know from birth ,that murder is sin, adultery is sin, disobedience to parents is sin , hypocrisy is sin. But non of us is born knowing that the sabbath should be kept. By very nature of the Fourth commandment , God intended it to be temporal not permanent.
Yes there is a reason but the reason was not given to you Gentile. It was given to Israel. They are the reason it was said to and to who it was said to REMEMBER the Sabbath. No mention of creation or God resting or the blessing the Sabbath received appears in the commandment in the book of Deuteronomy. Instead, Moses states, “ *Remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt and the Eternal your God freed you* from there… therefore the Eternal your God has commanded you to observe the Sabbath day.” This explanation appears somewhat removed from the day itself, not as closely tied to it as the other [which links it to the seventh day of creation on which God rests]. How does God’s freeing Israel from Egypt lead to sanctifying the Sabbath? The answer unfolds in layers. To begin with, the image of God in this version of the commandment matches the image of God in the first commandment, which reads, “I the Eternal am *your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt* ….” This is a familiar God. This is the God who works through history, the God whose liberation of the Israelites from Egypt forms a central theme of the Bible and lies at the core of Jewish life. In addressing the Israelites shortly before his death, Moses is speaking to people who witnessed that liberation or heard about it directly from their parents or other family members. For them, God as creator may seem remote. God as redeemer is the God they know. Calling up that aspect of the divine in the Sabbath commandment stirs in them memories of the slavery they suffered and God’s feats in delivering them from it. Observing the Sabbath God ordained is a way of memorializing their deliverance and honoring the deity who brought it about. (Exodus 31:16,17 Artscroll Translation). The Sabbath was given as a sign and covenant to Israel, a Gentile is forbidden to observe the Sabbath or to make a Sabbath of their own, a Halachah codified in the Mishneh Torah, Laws of Kings 10:9.
Seventh Day Adventists and other Sabbath keepers are trying to observe the Sabbath of Israel, but not God's true Sabbath. Here's how. When God gave the law through Moses, it was for the people of Israel, not the gentiles. Israel's Sabbath is just a foreshadow of God's Sabbath. It is just a copy. What Israel were commanded to do was just a copy of what God has in store. If you disagree, then substantiate your arguments against mine given below. To start with, use your common sense and think outside of the box. Keep these facts in mind. 1. Before God make appear the dry land and create the sun, God had his day 1, day 2, day 3 .... which had morning and evening. This fact is read from Genesis. Now if our day and night coincides with God's day and night, then the duration of God's day and night is a 24 hours cycle. If this is not the case, then Israel's Sabbath is not coinciding with God's true Sabbath. That means Israel's Sabbath which God gave them to observe is not God's true Sabbath. In that case, Seventh Day Adventist's main pillar of faith is destroyed the Seventh Day Adventist's Church will be a false Church. Thus, to sustain the claim of Seventh Day Adventist's Church, they must prove that God's Sabbath day coincides with Israel's Sabbath. I hope you will attempt to prove this. 2. God's day and night were not because of the sunlight and the shadow of the earth. But if God's day 1 is equal to 24 hours duration, then it could very well coincide with Israel's Sabbath which has 24 hours duration. Now, if God had his Day 1, Day 2 ...., then it is fair to imagine that the time duration should be of equal duration because God's time will not be determined by the rotation of the earth in its axis or the revolution of the earth in elliptical orbit around the sun. 3. Now, God is the God of all people. And if we say one day is equal to 24 hours, then day and night is not the issue to determined the time duration. Therefore, there is no need to start the Sabbath at sunset on the sixth day in Israel. However, if sunset and sunrise is used to determine the duration of the Sabbath day, then the people of Norway will have to observe lengthy Sabbath day during April to August. This means the time period of Sabbath for Norwaygians will be more than thousands hours while for Israel, it is only 24 hours. So, how can Norwaygians observe Sabbath like the Israelites? Isn't the God of Israel also the God of Norwaygians? This problem shows that either the God of Israel was a liar and not the true God or Israelites are not keeping God's true Sabbath. Either way, the Seventh Day Adventists are in error because they are neither following God's instruction on Sabbath given through Moses nor do they keep God's true Sabbath. While a Seventh Day Adventist start keeping the Sabbath in Israel, his fellow Adventists in US will be working and his fellowmen in Norway will be wondering how to keep the Sabbath because God did not say look at the watch to keep the Sabbath. There is no way Seventh Day Adventist will be able to keep the Sabbath around the world at the same time when they all worship the same one God. Since Sabbath keepers claim they keep God's Sabbath while they break it by not being able to observe the Sabbath at the same time worldwide, the Seventh Day Adventist Church as a whole has errred and therefore, it cannot be the true Church. 4. History does not support the claims of Seventh Day Adventist Church
Thanks to everyone involved in this production. Thanks to everyone who shared their experience with the sabbath. It has really really moved me; that I have felt compelled to comment as well... When our people also first got the sabbath truth these are some of the words that came with it “Where did the light break out? Let thine angels teach us where the light broke out! It commenced from a little, then Thou didst give one light after another. The testimony and commandments (Rev 12:17) are linked together, they cannot be separated; that comes first the ten commandments, by God.” “The commandments never would be struck against if it were not to get rid of the Sabbath commandment. That one that has relaxed it is very foolish. It was very small, and when it rose, though it rose in strength, it was weak back there, when it came up it increase, (or increased.) If they won’t hear it they are as accountable as though they did hear it.” “He was well pleased when His law began to come up in strength, and the waste places began to be built up.” (Isa 58:12-14) “Out of weakness it has become strong from searching His Word. The test upon it has been but a short time. All who are saved will be tried upon it in some way. That truth arises and is on the increase, stronger, and stronger. It’s the seal! (Rev 7:2) It’s coming up! It arises, commencing from the rising of the sun. Like the sun, first cold, grows warmer and sends its rays.” “When that truth arose there was but little light in it, but it has been increasing. O the power of these rays.” “It grows in strength, the greatest weight and light is on that truth for it lasts forever when the Bible is not needed. (Isa 66:22-23)It arose there in the east, it began with a small light, but its beams are healing. O how mighty is that truth; it’s the highest after they enter the goodly land, but it will increase till they are made immortal (1st Cor 15:51-54). It commenced from the rising of the sun, keeps on its course like the sun, but it never sets.” “The angels are holding the four winds.” (Rev 7:1) “It is God that restrains the powers.” “The angels have not let go, for the saints are not all sealed.” (Rev 7:1-4) “The time of trouble has commenced, it is begun. The reason why the four winds have not let go, is because the saints are not all sealed. It’s on the increase, and will increase more and more; the trouble will never end until the earth is rid of the wicked.” “At that time neighbor will be against neighbor (Zec 14:13). That time has not yet come, when brother against brother and sister against sister (Matt 10:21); but will come when Michael stands up.” (Daniel 12:1) “When Michael stands up this trouble will be all over the earth.” (Daniel 12:1) “Why they are just ready to blow. There’s a check put on because the saints are not sealed.” (Rev 7:1-4) “Yea, publish the things thou hast seen and heard, and the blessing of God will attend. Look ye! that rising is in strength, and grows brighter and brighter. That truth is the seal, that’s why it comes last. The shut door we have had (Rev 3:8). God has taught and taught, but that experience is not the seal, and that commandment that has been trodden under foot will be exalted. And when ye get that you will go through the time of trouble. (Daniel 12: 1)” “Yea, all that thou art looking at, thou shalt not see just now. Be careful, let not light be set aside which comes from another way from which thou art looking for.”
Here is what Paul did on the Sabbath: Acts 17 Now when they had traveled through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where there was a synagogue of the Jews. 2 And according to Paul’s custom, he visited them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures, explaining and giving evidence that the Christ had to suffer and rise from the dead, and saying, “This Jesus whom I am proclaiming to you is the Christ.” 4 And some of them were persuaded and joined Paul and Silas, along with a large number of the God-fearing Greeks and a significant number of the leading women. Is this what you do on the Sabbath? Do you go to the lost and share the Good News? Now that would be something to boast about.
@@metathoughts732 quote---God bless the New Covenant that makes the old one obsolete.--unquote Quote the New Covenant the says anything about the Sabbath!!!
I’m keeping the Sabbath with my family for 2 yrs already and it has been a blessing for my house and reinforce love in all my family members ❤ God does miracles and I’ve seen them since I’m keeping the Sabbath ❤️
@@metathoughts732 Quote---but how do you keep the Sabbath. Which Bible passages do you consult to find out how and why to keep the Sabbath?- unquote IS there something wrong with you computer?? Are you so lazy you need others to do your research??? FOLLOW the example of Jesus!!!
@metathoughts732 you do what is thought by exodus 20 and what Jesus thought I the new testament that says sabbath was made for man not man for the sabbath and it is good to good om a sabbath but please pray about it and ask God to lead you to the God fearing faith that keeps the sabbath for guidance
@@kac0404Mathew 5:17.....New King James Version “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
@@kac0404 Don't lie, that is just your interpretation, well the Sabbath is part of the 10 commandments and if you say that it is finished, so you mean that we are allowed to kill, to steal/ which is the 6th&7th commandments, please don't deny the commandments just because of the Sabbath.
The son of the stranger isiah 56 stay in your place you love the Sabbath stay in your place and give thanks and rejoice with Israel Deut32. When he said REMEMBER he said it to the children of Israel
@@ThomasDickensheets how can I do that ? When the Sabbath has to be kept in the land of sabbath . The Sabbath was not given to the world ,it is a gift to the children of Israel from the almighty because he made the heavens and earth in six days and RESTED on the seventh day it is a sign between him and the children of Israel. The Tora , laws is for them If you love me keep my comanment Messiah speaking to his brethren on a love conversation not necessarily Sabbath but a whole. We cannot even serve him here Ezekiel 20 40 in the mountains of the height of Israel there will all the house of Israel worship me. So you may have wrongly understand some thing I am not the Messiah who will rule All nations with a rode of iron. I have read in Joel 3 says he is coming for the scattered children of Israel and juda because they have scattered them and parted his land. Nations will say I am going with Israel and juda because I hear that God is with them.zachariah 8:23. Yeremiah 16:19 The Gentiles will come and say our fathers have inherited lies
It is important to understand the difference between law and commandments, A command from God means what we are commanded to do. Therefore we have the 10 commandments, including the 4th commandment- Remember the Sabbath Day and keep it holy. Keep the Sabbath and you will see what the almighty will do in your life. Even in the new earth, we will keep the Sabbath.
Hey stop playing games Christians are out of law and commands . remember the Sabbath was not said to Christians , because he never taught ,or gave them Sabbath he taught Israel in exodus 16, he reminded them in exodus 20 .he made covenant between him and them and will renew it in Hebrew and Jeremiah .so he who speak his word speak Iit truthfully so go tell your defiling dreams
@@hannahbowers1469Be careful!!! Question is when israel becoming exist in this world?of course it is after the flood,and if its so,Who told to keep sabbath keeping it holy? OF COURSE IS ADAM & EVA and that I why Bible says the sabbath was given to the human being so if you are human being sabbath is yours BUT IF YOU ARE ANIMAL, PLANT, AND OTHER THINGS "SABBATH IS LESS CONCERN.
Stay away from the law of the children of Israel gentiles have inherited lies Jeremiah 16 19 please read Zechariah 8 23 nations will say to the Jews I will go with you because I hear that the almighty God is with you case close. Not s d a Israel Jew salvation is of the Jew not Christians . Jews
Jim has got to be one of the best debaters for Torah observants. Jim, you put a big smile on the Lords face! God bless you brother, i look forward to meeting you one day. if not in this system i guess ill see you in the kingdom 👍 shalom shalom 🙏
@@rayapapa5946 what is Jim doing debating Tora ? A gentile The word the almighty gave to the children of Israel ? Was Jim not afraid? Shama Israel Speak to the children of Israel Verily my sabbath you must keep it's a sign between me And the children of Israel. Be still and stand in awe
@@hannahbowers1469 You said: "what is Jim doing debating Tora ? A gentile The word the almighty gave to the children of Israel ? " Answer: Israel was to a Light to the Gentiles.... to share God's Word with them. Torah - the first five books of the Bible spoke of Jesus: "For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of Me. " John 5:46 The Bible and the Ten Commandments were NOT exclusive for Israel, they were ENTRUSTED to Israel to share with the Gentiles and all the World! To begin with, the Jews were ENTRUSTED with the oracles of God [His very Words]. " Romans 3:2 AMP God is Love!
@@loren719 I did get your point but yes T Israel has been intrust with the word The gentiles came by faith in Messiah , Not by covenant hi Organization is what confusion The word the truth is what real truth Now they have Creation Sabbath They keep days,time I am afraid of them They worship the creation Disobedience They don't want the name of Israel to be remembered Behold to obey is better than sacrifice The weekly Sabbath is given to the children of Israel and those who love it do it There is a future blessing for the joiner stranger foreign gentiles in isiah 56
@@hannahbowers1469 The Sabbath was made for MAN (Mark 2:27) not for Jews, but for ALL MAN-kind; When God entrusted His Sabbath with Israel, He said: "REMEMBER the Sabbath day..... " Ex. 20:8 Remember it, for they forgot it. The Seventh Day Sabbath is from Creation when God Made MAN in His own image (Gen. 1:26) ... there were no Jews then. God is Love!
@@loren719 and what did God say? Seventh day Adventist remember to keep the Sabbath? people of the whole world remember to keep my Sabbath People remember creation Remember to honour creation week? Yes Jews and Israel was not at creation Was Abraham there was Adam there Who did he say remember too He waited for his first born isreal He took out of the land of Egypt Remember Israel to keep the Sabbath the strange the foreign joiner Christians that love it keep it
I wanted to know what was in the debate before committing to a 2 hour video. Now I know. "not to follow catholic church". OK, so this is what it is all about. Right
The seventh day Adventist is the one who changed things or tink to change time and law they enter a Sabbath conversation they are called strangers foreign joiner gentiles why enter in things that doesn't belong to you ,and playing giver and master or lord wait you turn speak truth
@@birdwingconservation4289 say something Daniel the Hebrew is your church in capacity the book of Hebrews for Hebrew Forty years your father 's tempted they saw my work today if you should hear his voice (Israel)harden not your heart
Jesus said to the people who believed in Him " you are truly my disciples if you remain faithful to my teaching, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free" meaning Jesus is the way the truth and the life (John 14: 6 ) no comes to the father except through Jesus Christ . you will not be save if you observe laws and the sabbath ; Jesus said in John 3:3-7 you must be born again to save!
@@sotera8852 Of course one CAN'T be saved by observing the Law or the Sabbath. Neither can you be saved by observing the New Covenant because it is a PERSON ( Yahshua) who saves. So that is not the issue. The issue is the Law Moses was never annulled, therefore the Sabbath is not abrogated too.
@@David-kk4dr Foolishness! 24And the LORD commanded us to observe all these statutes and to fear the LORD our God, that we may always be prosperous and preserved, as we are to this day. 25And if we are careful to observe every one of these commandments before the LORD our God, as He has commanded us, then that will be our righteousness.”
My prayer is that at the end of this debate , people will by God’s grace see and understand thatGods words stand forever and it’s better to okay God rather than man. Well done Pastor Jim,you delivered with clarity and on the authority of the Scripture Gods words.
Yhe 10 commandments are commandments arent they? Are you trying to say that we shouldbt obey the 10 commandments or that we should obey all the other ones?
This is my second time watching this video, it never gets old, my question to Chris would be why would anyone want to follow church fathers when we should only be following the word of God and the one and only true Father.
I guess it can be said ,, that early fathers like the ones in the 1st century were the closest to Jesus and the apostles Time and it’s like a window on how they viewed and lived and thought before the writing of the New Testament
Kracyvine !!!!! So you are saying that Christ and the Apostles FAILED to establish their Church !!!!!! P.S. There was no New Testament in the very early Church. The Church Father's collected and preserved them. They are why YOU have a New Testament today, silly.
@@RonaldTolar-pg8uh actually, what's clear in that those you all deem 'fathers' (see Matt 23:9) aren't really so. why not follow Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul and Peter? see Isaiah 8:20
True that pastor jim you clearly outlined what God says not what humans say. God will truly reveal His truths to everyone and in the end we will all say all your ways are just. Well said Jim clearly understood
@dlaminiandre9012 well I cannot put it any better than what I heard here. You have explained what I can go by. Please explain further with evidence from the New Testament maybe that may help my understanding of your point.
DEAREST , HELLO . THIS IS ADDRESS TO : " ALL THE SUNDAY KEEPERS " . READ , FROM " THE KING JAMES VERSION HOLY BIBLE " READ : ISAIAH 29 : 13 ; MATTHEW 7 : 23 ; JOHN 15 : 15 ; MATTHEW 5 : 19 - 20 . PROVE TO ME , FROM THE HOLY BIBLE , THAT READS , " REMEMBER SUNDAY OR THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK AS A HOLY DAY " . FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK , SUNDAY , IS NEVER EVER A HOLY DAY , ONLY THE SABBATH , SATURDAY . THIS MAN WHO IS TALKING ABOUT THE SABBATH AS A SHADOW IS , THE LEAST IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD .
@@CynthiaRothschildyour problem you think that those who worship on Sunday observes Sunday like what you do in sabbath,we don't worship in the day but IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH meaning in Christ Jesus who's the Spirit and Truth
@t1910j It was also God who commanded Israel to be circumcised and keep ALL other laws and ALL those laws were nailed in the cross by Jesus Christ,don't act as if God commanded only sabbath or ten commandments,it is Ellen G white who taught you so not God,I once observed sabbath and during those days I was dead in my sins just like what every SDA is today,the day will definitely come where you are going to understand this(THE DAY THAT LORD WILL SEPERATE YOUR SPIRIT FROM FLESH) unfortunately it will be too late to repent,if you think I'm bluffing WAIT & SEE.
@@thembandlovu3344 Correct! God told Abraham and his descendants to be circumcised. However we are spiritual Israelites and circumcision of the heart is required under the new covenant. Let’s be clear also about one important fact that you are also misunderstanding, the Sabbath was not established for Israelites when the Ten Commandments were given but has always I insist ALWAYS been there since creation. God created the earth and rested on the seventh day and blessed it. It is His holy day(not yours to change or disregard) and we are required to keep it the way He set it as a commemoration that He is the creator. God interested us to always keep it and by the way it is a fact that it will be kept in heaven i.e life after earth. Oh and none of these facts I have just stated to you have I gotten from Ellen G White. Just plain truth from the Bible.
Certainly seems Chris caught him on Jim's own words. Jim eve serms to take notice during the cross questionings to " make it 5 mins and not 10 mins".!!
@@kac0404 quote---The Ten Commandments, which included Sabbath keeping, was done away with. (Romans 7:4-6) --unquote What does Romans Chapter 7 4 mean? He has written that one who has died is no longer bound by the law, just as a woman whose husband has died is no longer bound by that marriage. She is free to marry a new husband. Paul now writes that Christians are the ones who have died, freeing us from our responsibility to the law of Moses. >>>>Since you imply ALL the ten Commandments were done away with, that means we ALL can steal, murder, etc with NO consequences from God!!! Right???? I'll be sure to tell the judge that.
@@kac0404 quote---I love how you added the word "responsibility" to that scripture. That's not what the Bible says. But now we are DELIVERED FROM THE LAW, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. Romans 7:6 KJV See how you add and make up words and things to fit your false narrative? It says nothing about the responsibility of the law. It says the law...PERIOD! That's just sad, man!!!!--unquote And that is a LIE__Bearing false wirnes against thy neighbor OBVIOUSLY you mis-read my quote!!! Romans 7:6 NKJV But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.
Have you been baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ, as we are commanded in acts 2:38 10:48 Acts 19:5 KJV [5] When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. Were you sprinkled or submerged? We are buried with him. You need to be submerged in the Name all power is in the Name. No other name among men whereby we must be saved. Acts 8:38-39 KJV [38] And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. [39] And when they were come up out of the water,
Let no one stop 🛑 you Joel 3 says he is coming for the scattered ones of Israel who they have scattered among the nations so be careful isiah 16 19 gentiles will say our fathers have inherited lies
@@mattwilliam3410 this acts 19 was in that dispensation this has past. We hav entered a new This is now the time for the second exodus for the children of Israel he that is filthy let him be , he that is holy be so still this is isreal time
@@mattwilliam3410 I have not deny baptism even my forefathers were baptized under the cloud in the red s EA when returning the second exodus we will be baptism again I will sprinkle the water of baptism Israel , crossing the yadan .Our Messiah was also baptise
How do you explain this verse then? “Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ” (Colossians 2:16-17)
@nat turner Yeshua for sure! But when He said that did He mean that it was no longer valid? Wasn’t He the Lord of the Sabbath from the very beginning when He instituted it in the garden? Does being lord over something mean it’s no longer valid? He is also lord over the rest of the Ten Commandments. Does that mean He doesn’t expect us to keep them too? The context of him saying that was the Pharisees were misinterpreting the application of the sabbath and they had changed the original meaning from when he wrote it. Yeshua is saying that HE wrote it and HE is the master of it, not them. If He came to change the day of the sabbath then He cannot be the Messiah because He also said in Mt. 5:17-21 that “not one jot or tittle would pass from the law until heaven and earth pass away.” If the number 4 commandment is now passed away then his statement in Mt. 5 is untrue. And if it’s untrue then he lied. And if he lied then he can’t be the messiah. The Sabbath was made for man and is one of the BIGGEST blessings he ever gave. Certainly we are not to believe He took that away from us when He said he made it for us and meant for us to keep it forever before man even sinned. If Adam doesn’t sin we are keeping the sabbath and there would be no debate. Besides, why on earth would we not want to rest and enter into something that was specifically made for us!
@@inchristalone25 the religious Jews were judging Paul’s new converts for the WAY they were keeping the sabbath and the feast days. They were not keeping it like the Pharisees that were riddled with traditions. The gnostic jews were stuck in tradition and killing the simple meaning behind many of the commandments. Paul’s not warning them against the Jews trying to get them to keep gods commandments. Paul already said in Roman’s 7 that the law is good and keeping it is the very thing he wants to do. He’s against the religious Jews trying to get his converts to keep the TRADITIONS. That’s why he said in verse 8…Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ” and he ends the whole chapter saying the same thing: 2:20 “Therefore, if you died with Christ from the basic principles of the WORLD, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to regulations- “Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle,” which all concern things which perish with the using-according to the commandments and doctrines of MEN?” it’s commandments of MEN they were pushing. Not the commandments of God. Unfortunately, because all of this have been taught that the sabbath has been done away with we read right into scriptures like this what we already believe instead of letting the text tell us exactly what it saying.
Your not very clear about it. God rested from the 6 days of creation "work" on the 7th day. I don't see where the Bible says He rested or made Holy EVERY seventh day until he gave the commandments to Moses for the Children of Israel. I also do not find anywhere in the Bible that He gave those commandments (including Sabbath) to anyone EXCEPT those who were there with Moses and had been led out of slavery.
@@chucksmith4624 quote--2. Luther teaches that that the weekly Sabbath is included in the Law of Moses, contrary to the Ellen G white and the Adventist Church. --unquote Obviously Luther did NOT read the Bible. The Law of Moses--Given to the JEWS!!!! Written in a book in pencil, by Moses.. Spoken by God.-- Kept in a pocket OUTSIDE the Ark. The Moral Laws of God--The Ten Commandments---- Spoken by God. Written with HIS finger IN STONE!! Kept INSIDE the Ark!!! ---The Law of Moses In regard to the book of the law or Moses’ law (Deuteronomy 29:21; 30:10) , the Lord commanded Moses saying, “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there as a witness against you” (Deut. 31:26). Jewish commentators are in disagreement in their views regarding the above verse. Some claim that the written scroll that contained Moses’ Law was placed inside the ark with the two tables of stone (Ten Commandments), others, say that it was put outside the Ark in a compartment formed at the right side held by a bulging board. But the clear statement in the Scripture that says, “there was nothing in the ark save the two tables which Moses put therein at Horeb” according to 2 Chron. 5:10 and also 1 Kings 8:9, clearly affirms that Moses’ law was placed outside the Ark of the Covenant. The Revised Standard version confirms this view in its translation that says, “by the side of the ark” (Deut. 31:26). The Law of Moses ended at the cross. The Mosaic Laws that pointed to Christ’s ministry and death (the priesthood, sacrifices, rituals, meat and drink offerings, etc.) were temporary as they foreshadowed the cross. When Christ died, they came to an end. Because of sin, Moses’ law was given (or “added” Galatians 3:16, 19) till Christ should come and die. The yearly or annual feasts (which were also called sabbaths) or holidays of Leviticus 23 were nailed to the Cross (Colossians 2:16). The moral Law of God remains God’s Law has existed at least as long as sin has existed (Romans 4:15). When people sin they break God’s moral law (1 John 3:4). Unlike the Mosaic law, the Ten Commandments (God’s law) “stand fast for ever and ever” and therefore, are binding today (Psalms 111:8). And the weekly seventh-day Sabbath of the fourth commandment remains in effect (Matthew 5:17,18; Luke 16:17; Romans 7:12; Hebrews 4:9…etc.). Paul confirms that God’s Moral Law is still in effect: “What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, thou shalt not covet” (Romans 7:7); “Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law?” (Romans 3:31) MOSES’ LAW Called “the law of Moses” (Luke 2:22). Called “law … contained in ordinances” (Ephesians 2:15). Written by Moses in a book (2 Chronicles 35:12). Placed outside the ark (Deuteronomy 31:26). Ended at the cross (Ephesians 2:15). Added because of sin (Galatians 3:19). Contrary to us, against us (Colossians 2:14). Judges no one (Colossians 2:14-16). Carnal (Hebrews 7:16). GOD’S LAW Called “the law of the Lord” (Isaiah 5:24). Called Ten Commandments-”the royal law” (James 2:8). Written by God on stone (Exodus 31:18; 32:16). Placed inside the ark (Exodus 40:20). Will stand forever (Luke 16:17). Points out sin (Romans 7:7; 3:20). Not grievous (1 John 5:3). Judges all people (James 2:10-12). Spiritual (Romans 7:14). Perfect (Psalms 19:7). Thus, we can conclude that the Ten Commandments that were written upon the two tables of stone were of such an important nature as to place them in a separate and distinct class by themselves- inside the Ark while Moses’ Law was placed outside the Ark. *****
@@josephkoma3529 Martin Luther as far as I know, lived up to all the knowledge of the truth he had in his time. Apparently he had not understood the Sabbath truth, like many others. Very soon though, this truth will have come full circle as it was first instituted in Eden, for eventually the entire world will have to make a stand, for God or man; for God's Sabbath or man's Sunday. The Sabbath, which was never disannulled at the cross, will again be made clear to the world. "And this gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in ALL the world for a witness unto ALL nations, and then shall the end come." Matt. 24:14
@Joseph Koma and @Chuck Smith, The very fact that these videos are being presented; the fact that @Mitchell Osmer's explanation was so overwhelmingly clear, is a fulfillment of that prophetic verse of Matt. 24:14, so that no one can say they did not hear.
A very interesting debate. At the end of the day each person will have a choice to make , whether to obey and follow God or the church fathers. By God's grace I will follow the truth in God's Word.
Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second. NIV For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another.
@@OkatahiAmotor The devil is a liar. Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
@@OkatahiAmotor you’re of the devil for not believe the truth. Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks
It's good you say sabbath keeping is the winner for you and your heart, but I want to show you the truth,ACT 15/1, and certain Men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and say except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses (that is after the law of Moses, you cannot be saved) THE apostles who preach the gospel are greater than this debaters, The apostles have written and concluded that the gentiles who through faith believe in Christ should not keep the law of Moses which keeping of the sabbath is included),If you read ACT 21/20to25,verse 20, says and when they heard it they glorified the lord and said unto him,thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe, and they are all zealous of the law, verse 25,speaks on this wise (AS touching the gentiles which believe,We have written and concluded that they observe no such thing save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols and from blood and from strangled and from fornication ) Lastly 2john1/9 says that whosoever transgresseth and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ hath not God,He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ,he hath both the father and the son ,, Best from the lord Jesus Christ,.
@@dedeukwu4194 ......The reason why God died on the cross, was to forgive the sin of men, and the obedience of the Ten Commandments is to prevent us from committing more sins. So in my heart I feel that I would be hypocritical to thank Jesus for his death on the cross and at the same time continue to participate in sin by breaking any of the 10 commandments. Blessings.
Not that keeping the Sabbath grants us salvation. That is only achieved by accepting the saving grace thru faith that is Jesus Christ. Not by his works, but by sacrifice for without sacrifice there is NO forgiveness of sin. Therefore once we accept Jesus we are covered by His righteousness bc Jesus is the door into the sanctuary and it is He that is our advocate to God. Then we have sacrifice, we sacrifice our old self and bc we have confessed our sins over the Lamb of God that died once that all MIGHT be saved;(You first have to accept. Otherwise there is no coverage of grace) you are forgiven. Afterwards is the lavor the cleansing the justification. Then we walk in the doctrine of Christ seeking always to be sanctified by obedience to His law bc it is a law of liberty sets us free from sin and once we obtain that thru our walk with Jesus who is the holy we are cleansed and sanctified blood and sacrificed and once we are sanctified whether we live or die on this earth we will be allowed into the most holy the inner sanctuary that is in the presence of God. It is the entire sanctuary message even though I may not have worded it all with proper English
Thanks for being respectful to each other-helps nonBelievers see Christ in us. To Shabbat is absolutely wonderful! While I have had a long journey in my faith- the days since I’ve begun to honor Father through resting on His appointed day have been so blessed. It’s as if He understands the way our body, mind and spirit functions best. 😮😊
Amen as long as it is on Gods Sabbath. The one written in stone by Gods own finger to last throughout the ages until the end of time and not the 1st day of the week which is the Pagan worship of the Sun and not the Son of God.
Silly , there were no man made Calenders at Creation ike St.Paul told you. The Point ?? Pick a Calender day in what ever Calender a Nation uses and Honor it as the Sabbath. Remember, "" The Sabbath was made for Man, not Man for the Sabbath.""
@@RonaldTolar-pg8uhquote---Silly , there were no man made Calenders around on the 7th day of Creation.--unquote Why would anyone need a man-made calendar when they had GOD???? And, apparently you believe NO ONE could count to 7!! Including God!!!
@@pamstaley24 the sabbath is the Lord God's rest He said. That rest today must end with the secret place. (Ps.91:1,15.) It says so right here. Do you see it? (Isa.28:9-13.) The double rests is from the curse of the fall and of the law. Its hard to see if you are not there. How do you read these?
One of the best TH-cam's transmissions I ever enjoyed. So thanks to those who developed and keeping it updated TH-cam. This debate was in The U.S.A. in a nation the declare itself "In God We Trust". If so why is this nation at war in the ENTIRE world? "God Is Love"if so does "Trust" has a leniency when using Commandment "Love your enemies".
So glad I found your channel!! Really woke me up after being in the Catholic Church for so long. I always questioned the church and then when I actually read the Bible MYSELF and didn’t count on a bs preacher to tell me what tradition tells people to believe, I really had an eye opener. This is Satan’s world and he’s the greatest deceiver. Thank you Jim!!
This is God's created world, He is the only creator. Let us not us be deceived that this is Satan's world and denies God's possession of the earth. We allowed ourselves to be deceived by Satan and allowed his sinful ways in our lives in this world on earth. But in as far as God is the Creator, this world is subject to His judgment not Satan. There might be a confusion in the terms between earth and world as one. We established our world or our human ways on earth to the point that our ways dispossessed God of His possession of the earth. But this is God's, Lev. 25:23. We have to recognize it.
@@eduardobaltazar4700 Corinthians 4:4 4 Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God. He’s the greatest deceiver and that’s why people follow the churches and all different religions instead of reading and studying Scripture! I agree with you it’s Adonai’s created world, but there are so many people being blinded because of things like this
I believe the Sabbath is not a debated topic. Everyone with understanding can read that in the Bible. If you do not have understanding then, ask the Lord and He will give it in abundance. God bless you all.
How do you explain this verse then? “Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ” (Colossians 2:16-17)
@@inchristalone25 Remember that Christ himself kept the Sabbath. Luke 4:16; Mark 6:2. Remember what he also said in Matthew 5:17-20. Remember what it says in the book of Isaiah: 66:23.
@@ralphquintero3350 Of course he kept the Sabbath PERFECTLY, because he was the only perfect spotless lamb that could keep all the laws perfectly so that he could FULFILL them. That doesn't mean the laws are abolished, no but he showed how it's not about following rules, it's about the heart (of which all the religious leaders had evil hearts despite their rule following) we still keep to all moral laws which is now written on our heart.
@metathoughts732 Romans 1:9 God, whom I serve in my spirit in preaching the gospel of his Son, is my witness how constantly I remember you 10 in my prayers at all times; and I pray that now at last by God’s will the way may be opened for me to come to you. 11 I long to see you so that I may impart to you some spiritual gift to make you strong- Paul boasting of him preaching, serving Jesus, and imparting spiritual gifts. Paul boasts a lot. I did this and I did that and I do these things. King David said I praise God, etc. I think it is strange to not give examples of what you do and to give YaHUaH all the glory for it. The humbleness comes by giving God all glory. Just saying I accepted Christ, I got baotised, I preached, I went to church, I testified, I pray, I glorify God, I repented, I did this, and do that is all boasting? That is what is strange. Reread the Bible and find everytime, people told what they do. The person above simply stated she loves Jesus and keep the Sabbaths. I don't believe in Jesus, I only believe the Hebrew Bible, not the Greek one. Human sacrifice and atonement is way of the heathen. Jesus is fake Greek plant. YaHUaH says every human must pay for his own sin. Brainwashed into believing human sacrifice is holy. YaHUaH is the Name of Elohim, not Jesus (Yeshua, Yahushua, Joshua, etc.....). The Greek Bible was written by Greeks, not any Jews because no Jew or ex-Jew would ever write antisemitic writings as the Greeks wrote. Book of Hebrews says Moses took blood and hyssop branch and sprinkled the tabernacle and all vessels of ministry with blood. Moses would never do such ungodly thing. Never make unkosher vessels by making them bloody. It is no where in the Hebrew Bible. Greek idiots. I HATE Christianity with Passion. It is idolatry, the worship of a human. Demons aren't real and neither is Lucifer. If they were real, they would steal everything from all humans, they'd steal everything out of your bank and destroy your home. The Hebrew Bible is the truth mostly, it has some false things in it by lieing scribes. Jeremiah 8:8 says it... behold the pen of the lieing scribes.... God has the verbal final say. He never accept any human blood to atone for any sin for it is truly way of the heathen. Sabbath keeping is a fact of truth.
He (Christ) said if you love me keep my commandments. The first (to break) is lying or bearing false witness. Did you actually repent of your sins like you said when you received him? Then why call him Lord and do not what he say?
@@ddmound Jesus is fake. God's Name isn't Jesus, Yeshua, nor YaHUshua. His Name is YaHUaH and is one, not three, nor trinity. YaHUaH is the only Elohim. You don't need any human to get to God. Joel 2:32 doesn't say to call on name of Yeshua but the Name of YaHUaH for Almighty Deliverance from all sinning. YaHUaH alone is Savior and doesn't do heathen human sacrifice, only animals. Greek Catholic priests decieved billions. The Hebrew Bible promises salvation to those who call on the Name of YaHUaH. So no need for name of Jesus who is a supposed heathen human sacrifice. Jesus blood didn't atone anyone's sins. If you repent, you won't have to deal with the confusion of Greek Bible anymore. Learn Biblical Hebrew. "We aren't under the law but under grace." "Sin is lawlessness". We obey the law of God in Christ". "We say and conclude the gentile believers observe no such thing but to abstain from blood, from things strangled, from idol sacrifice foods, and from fornication". "All things are clean to eat". Oh, but things strangled foid is unclean? Ahhhhhh what does that mean daaah. Yeah hardcore confusion. The Greek Bible also says Moses took blood and hyssop and sprinkled the tabernacle, altar and all vessels of ministry. Blood makes vessels of ministry unkosher. Moses never sprinkled any vessel if ministry as Greek Bible says. Also Isaiah 7 in Hebrew doesnt say he shall be born of virgin but young lady. Learn Hebrew.
@@ddmound 1. Are your suggesting that you cannot be saved unless you keep the Sabbath? Well then no one is saved. 2. "This is my commandment, that you love one another". Jesus in John 15:12. I love it when you search the context of a Bible passage and see what Jesus said about His commandments. Jesus tells us exactly what he meant by keeping his commandments.
Jim you are a man after my own heart God loves you for standing up for the truth ❤️ Don't givei to this faults belief it's a command from your Holy God bless you Jim Amen thank you Lord Jesus 😂❤🎉
I grew up a Sunday worshipper but so glad my eyes have been opened to the true Sabbath, Saturday. The sabbath is a gift from God. If He rested we certainly should as He commands. I try to honor this day apart from all others and its sometimes challenging as I get called into work or have the common distractions of TV or my smart phone. I feel so close to God when I keep it
the true Sabath-rest is being in Christ, or trusting in the work of Christ for our salvation, as Chris Rosebrough said in his closing statement (1:44:00)
All my life, I've been a Sunday worshipper, debating about whether or not to keep sabbath is actually of no importance the last time I checked. God is not limited to days nor are His abilities limited to only sabbaths, I was brought up in a church where God's divine power was incomparable and it's always on Sunday. God wants us to stop sinning and to treat everyday holy that's how Christ lived
That's wonderful news! But you know there's nothing wrong with going to church or worshipping Sunday or any other day God never gets tried of being recognized worshipped and loved! Can you blame Them? 😊🙏🙏🙏❣️
Sundown to sundown isn’t biblical except for 2 particular sabbath observances in the Bible. Did the first day in genesis begin with darkness? No; it began with light.
@@Isaiah-ft5nx evening and the morning was the first day etc. Check Genesis 1. From Sun down to sun down is a day. Not morning to night. The Sabbath begins from Friday sundown to Saturday sundown
@@derrickatkinson7277 Yahuah created during the daylight hours, then it was evening and morning, the 1st day complete. When morning came, the 2nd day of creation began. Then it was evening and morning again, the 2nd day complete. Etc...He didn't even create the Sun and Moon and stars until the 4th day. The 1st thing He said was let there be light. He is the light. He created in the light. The lunar calander is Babylonian. It is NOT Yahuahs calander. The entire Bible narrative of Yahuahs calander begins the day at sunrise to sunrise. Yes "the jews" keep the Babylonian calander but you have to learn who "the Jews" really are to understand why they do. They are the SINofGOG of Satan that say they are Yahudim and ARE NOT but do lie. Yahusha told us so and rebuked them every encounter He had with them. AND these are the same ppl "the church" whether Catholic or Protestant listen to and get understanding of doctrine from. Go watch The God Culture They'll lay it all out for you
Congratulations! Pastor Staley, Without question,you have won this debate. You have presented the Truth of God's Word with clarity, and to the point.May God bless you,and your family tremendously. May He keep you steadfast,and unmoveable,as you continue to defend the truth of His Word. .
@@ladyu.p4268 It does not say in the Bible that the children forgot it (the commandments) so He had to remind them at Sinai. Are you adding to the Word of God?
@@carnduffagc5155The Bible didn't mention that Children of Israel forgot the Sabbath, No. But the 4th Commandment in Exodus 20:8 says 'REMEMBER' the Sabbath day to keep it Holy... You see, God knows that the children on Israel will forget, there will be confusion between which day to worship, therefore he emphasized the word 'Remember' so the children of Israel and the generations to come will know that, we must obey God's law. These laws guide us to live a godly life on this earth and for the Heavenly kingdom to come. For we will worship God on the 7th day, the Sabbath day in Heaven.
@@roselynyore7344 .... yes, so true; And the fact that so many Christians today Keep Sunday instead of His Sabbath, shows that the word: "Remember" is more pertinent than ever! God is Love!
As a newer Christian who was just baptized Easter 2024. I’ve been hugged by Jesus twice now. He has shown me yes he wants us to keep the sabbath (Saturday) but he does understand that where we are in this world more often than not a father/mother must work to support their families. Jesus healed the blind man on the sabbath and said if you must work on the sabbath make sure it’s for the right reasons. That being said … my children are getting older and I’m going to downsize and get out of the debt I currently carry and my journey will ultimately end up in me observing the sabbath to honor my king because I love him. But that won’t be held against me
The Sabbath is to be a delight, don't miss out! The one command that starts with Remember, Christians tell you to forget. Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy and even the STRANGER in they gate. The Sabbath is all inclusive.
No man made Calenders were around at Creation. If a country wants a Sabbath, work 6 days, and honor the 7th day, If your teachers think that our Calendar in use today was around at Creation, they are goofs. 🤣🤣 lol . In the West we generally work Mon - Sat ( 6 days ), rest the 7th ( Sun ). The Jewish calendar wasn't around at Creation either !
@@RonaldTolar-pg8uh quote---No man made Calenders were around at Creation. If a country wants a Sabbath, work 6 days, and honor the 7th day, If your teachers think that our Calendar in use today was around at Creation, they are goofs. 🤣🤣 lol . In the West we generally work Mon - Sat ( 6 days ), rest the 7th ( Sun ). The Jewish calendar wasn't around at Creation either ! unquote That implies that GOD is stupid and can't count to 7. Also implies with ONLY two people on earth they can't count to 7!!!
@mitchellosmer1293 No, it implies you are dishonest. The commandment ""Remember the Sabbath....."" wasn't instituted untill Moses, thousands of years later. Honoring the Creator and his creation is a very good and right thing! Sabbath = Work six days, and honor God and Rest on the 7th Calender day. If you think the earliest humans started Calenders immediated you are very, very, dishonest in your thought processes.
@@RonaldTolar-pg8uh Sabbath was actually established since Creation - Gen 2:2-3 and we need not worry about any calendar, we have the weekly cycle which was never hindered. all we need to do is look to Christ, 2,000 years back - He kept the 7th day and so too do Christians. interestingly, the Bible does prophesy a nasty system which would tamper with It. the 'church' which did so, they freely and openly admit to this. and sadly, most just don't get it still.
"keeping the sabbath the right day" Sabbath means rest. So you must rest the RIGHT DAY? I say this because people confuse rest day as worship and turn around and violate commandment #24 of Torah all in a day.
@@terrygreenman1540 quote----I say this because people confuse rest day as worship and turn around and violate commandment #24 of Torah all in a day.--unquote WHAT is Commandment #24???????
@@mitchellosmer1293 I used to have a book but I lost my mini library long time ago. But here is the name of this book that has all 613 commandments and where they are found in the Bible or Torah and there is a commentary on every one of them. The Book is called BIBLICAL LITERACY By Rabbi Joseph Telushkin. I strongly recommend this book. I am for certain it can be gotten from Amazon. You asked what is the 24th commandment in Torah. It is found in Exodus 16:29.
Here is how the Bible says to "keep the Sabbath": 1. You must be living between the time when the Sabbath was given (Exodus 16) at the beginning of (and as the sign of) the Old Covenant (between God and Israel), and the Cross, when the entire Old Covenant, including its sign (the Sabbath), was fulfilled in Christ and became obsolete (Colossians 2:14-17, Hebrews 8:6-13, Galatians 4, 2 Corinthians 3). 2. In order to be eligible to keep the Sabbath, you must be an Israelite, a servant of an Israelite, or a stranger staying with an Israelite. Gentiles were not allowed to keep the Sabbath, as it was a special sign between God and Israel to "sanctify them," or set them apart from the Gentiles (Exodus 31:12-17). 3. You must not cook food on the Sabbath day (Exodus 16:23). 4. You must not leave your place (Exodus 16:29). 5. You must not do ANY work, and you must not let your wife, sons, daughters, servants, animals, or visitors do ANY work (Exodus 20:10, Deuteronomy 5:14). 6. You must not kindle a fire (Exodus 35:3). 7. You must not buy or sell anything (Nehemiah 13, Amos 8:5). 8. You must not carry a load (Jeremiah 17). 9. Whoever violates the Sabbath must be put to death (Exodus 31:14-15). You wanna keep the Sabbath then stay at home.. you violate it by leaving your home Exodus 13:14-15 on you..simple as that...and it isn't very forgiving.
@@terrygreenman1540 quote---1. You must be living between the time when the Sabbath was given (Exodus 16) at the beginning of (and as the sign of) the Old Covenant (between God and Israel), and the Cross, when the entire Old Covenant, including its sign (the Sabbath), was fulfilled in Christ and became obsolete (Colossians 2:14-17, Hebrews 8:6-13, Galatians 4, 2 Corinthians 3).--unquote Col 2:14-17 blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; and having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Sabbath IS NOT AN ORDINANCE!!! IT IS A MORAL LAW OF GOD!!! (What is an ordinance from God? In the Church, an ordinance is a sacred, formal act or ceremony performed by the authority of the priesthood. Some ordinances are essential to our exaltation. They include baptism, confirmation, ordination to the Melchizedek Priesthood (for men), the temple endowment, and the marriage sealing.) NOTHING about the weekly Sabbath!!!! ---quote----Hebrews 8:6-13 that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away. THe promises He made to Israel--- Hebrews 8:6-13 - I will put my laws in their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. ... or say to each other, “Know the Lord” ...HIS LAWS__TEN Commandments!!! ---quote-2. In order to be eligible to keep the Sabbath, you must be an Israelite, a servant of an Israelite, or a stranger staying with an Israelite. Gentiles were not allowed to keep the Sabbath, as it was a special sign between God and Israel to "sanctify them," or set them apart from the Gentiles (Exodus 31:12-17).--unquote --Really??? Then why does Jesus say: - Jesus concludes, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath” (Mark 2:27-28). ORIGINAL HEBREW: “The Sabbath was made for THE man, not THE man for the Sabbath.Who is "THE MAN"? ADAM!!!! LONG BEFORE ANY JEWS!!!! over 3000 years before!!! ---quote---3. You must not cook food on the Sabbath day (Exodus 16:23). unquote NO Sabbath keeper does that. That IS what Preparation day (friday) is for!! --quote---4. You must not leave your place (Exodus 16:29). unquote Nope--that was a DIRECT order , FROM GOD,TO ISAREL!!! Tell me, just how would anyone get to the church on Sabbath??? Sleep in the church ??? How far was a Jew allowed to travel on the Sabbath? 2,000 cubits A Jew was permitted to travel 2,000 cubits on the Sabbath (Exod. 16: 29 and Num. 35: 5), about 1.2 km. (¾ mile), and the Mount of Olives was within this distance from Jerusalem (Acts 1: 12). ---quote---5. You must not do ANY work, and you must not let your wife, sons, daughters, servants, animals, or visitors do ANY work (Exodus 20:10, Deuteronomy 5:14).-unquote ALL Sabbath keeper do that anyway!!! Tell me, a family lives in the back country witha small wood stove to keep warm. That stove MUST be filled every 4 hours. Is that man supposed to allow that fire to go out so his familt freezes??? btw--Apparently you can nor feed your animals. That is NOT what God says. ---quote---6. You must not kindle a fire (Exodus 35:3).--unquote OBVIOUSLY you have NEVER lived in the country with a wood stove!!! To kindle-----to chop/cut wood into small pieces to start a fire. ---quote---8. You must not carry a load (Jeremiah 17).--unquote So, Jesus made the man disobey the Sabbath by telling him to carry his mat after being healed?? Pick up your mat and walk." ... Jesus said to him, “Stand up, take your mat and walk.” ... Jesus said to him, "Arise, take up your mat, and walk." Had Jesus disobeyed the Sabbath , that WAS punishable by death!!! be stoned!!! ---quote---9. Whoever violates the Sabbath must be put to death (Exodus 31:14-15).--unquote That was the Levitical laws--Given to Israel by God!!! NOT to all humankind!!! What about the Commandment: Ex 20:13?? Thou shalt NOT murder!!! ----quote---You wanna keep the Sabbath then stay at home.. you violate it by leaving your home Exodus 13:14-15 on you..simple as that...and it isn't very forgiving.--unquote you are so full of BS and IGNORANT of the Holy BIBLE!!!
Thank you for this debate. I really believe that the holy day is the Sabbath. If we break one command, we are against the God’s law. So we must follow as what God intended to do. Follow God and not men. Thank you.
This is what gets me messed up when someone says, "if we break one command, we are against God's Law". It is impossible for man to follow God's Leviticus Law. No one can follow the Law, that is the sole reason Jesus died on the cross so we would not have to do sacrifices nor follow a Law that we can't follow. If we violate just one little law, we are guilty of violating all of it and deserve Hell. I know Leviticus, says for us to keep the Sabbath forever but then when Christ died and the veil in the Temple was torn from the top to the bottom also told me that no more sacrifice is needed and I don't need a mediator between God and me and that we have a new Covenant. I have been a Christian for over 50 years and I will humble myself to say I studied this myself and I have no answer. I have no choice but to have faith that Jesus grants me Grace to have Salvation and to forgive me of any errors I have made because of my ignorance. I get comfort this way and I believe I will receive Grace and not be condemned either way.
Pastor Jim I appreciate your defense of the Sabbath . And I will be please to Add that Jesus Christ said do not think I came to destroy the law and the prophets I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. Mth 5vs17.
And he adds how to fulfill the law;Mathew7:12 Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets. (As you can see here, the sabbath is not in the equation). The new Law is Love, which is the natural law in the 10commandments. As mentioned in Mathew 19:16-20.
Pastor Chris, you have quoted church fathers, other, and some out of context Bible verses. This does not prove Sunday is the Sabbath! Do you not think God would let his people know if He was changing the day He sanctified to something else (Sunday) Amos 3:7 God does nothing without revealing his secrets to his prophets. You are gonna be responsible for all the people you are deceiving. 😢 Shame😢
Mathew 17:16 Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good[d] Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?” 17 So He said to him, [e]“Why do you call Me good? [f]No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”18 He said to Him, “Which ones?” Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19 ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ” 20 The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [g]from my youth. What do I still lack?” 21 Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” (Notice that Jesus teaches only the commandment of love , consistently as written in Mathew 7:12,John15 etc. Even when he wanted the man to be perfect ,it was still love, "' Go sell everything & give the money to the poor"'. I would have expected Jesus to tell this man, "' if you want to be perfect , never break the sabbath!!!!), why is he avoiding this ? Answer: Romans13:8 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. 9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” [b]“You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. Galatians5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: [d]adultery, [e]fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, [f]murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. (Paul keeps forgetting that sabbath keeping is necessary for eternal life?NO he knows the master did not teach that . There is another day , today he adds, in saying today, he is not random but rather is talking about the day of the church , the day of the resurrection. Hebrews 4:6 Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience, 7 again He designates a certain day, saying in David, “Today,” after such a long time, as it has been said:“Today, if you will hear His voice, Do not harden your hearts.”8 For if [b]Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God.
The true Sabbath is not kept for Salvation, but obedience to God and for His glory.
There’s no different because salvation come through faith in obedience
@@kerjiokchuolboth5983 The Adventist add the keeping of Sabbath nad believing in their prophet for salvation , so it is not for them only by faith alone.
@@kerjiokchuolboth5983 Obedience to the gospel not to the works of the law which are not kept by anybody they are called in the Bible “ filthy rags”. Our works are for sanctification not salvation, Jesus works are the only ones for our salvation.
@@kerjiokchuolboth5983 Faith in Christ ALONE!✝️✝️✝️
Obedience to God is by keeping his laws_teachings and instructions.... One of which is keeping the Sabbath. Satan comes in different forms to deceive people with wrong interpretation of Scripture__No where in the Bible that says_keeping the Sabbath is a choice. All early Christian and the Apostles kept it by obedience to God's commandments... Jesus said He has come to fulfill the law not to abolish it..
Yes Jim Staley! Standing up for truth! This is the best Sabbath debate I've ever heard and I've kept Sabbath since I was 8 years old and my parents found the way. Read your Bible. Pray. Come out of her my people Amen!
Walter Veith is really more complete and thorough covering all the standard and weird opposition.
What Jim Stanley ? Debating yah's truth?A Ai have not spoken to no other nation psalm i47 Amos 3. What was he saying ? The Sabbath was made for man? In six days he made heaven and earth for s d a or man so he can remove Israel.
Yes yes gentle man you believe Isreal will never be a nation again and replace it
What else
The world Remember is for the whole world ?he asked Israel to remember the Sabbath he taught them in exodus 16 and reminded them in 20. But Jim what what why are you robing the lambs ? Speak the word truthfully The Messiah did not teach you Sabbath it was his tradition as a Jew you are a stranger or foreign or joiner wait on isiah 56
I am 7 day and I keep the sabbath the GOD bless day
so what? I bet you also didn't murder anyone. Good for you.
Romans 10:6
10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.
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You seem to be doing just the opposite. You want to be justified by holy days and spread the word of how great you keep the Sabbath.
Make no mistake. Paul is clear. Christians are saved by faith not by practices and those true believers share the Good News of Jesus Christ not bragging about the Sabbath.
@@metathoughts732 so what...dont try to explain the Bible like how u like just follow it .... so u say GOD the father and the son are wrong for keeping the sabbath...
So u accept roman Catholic come from Rome the sun GOD teaching Sunday the sun worshiping day or God the father Saturday sabbath which one u chose
Jim Staley's closing remarks left me in tears...If you got the HOLY SPIRIT in you, you'd surely feel what he says.
I thought it was weird. Like he wants to be Jewish despite the fact that Christ’s Gospel is for both Jew and Gentile.
We Gentiles have been grafted into the vine and are as adopted sons. True Christians are the Isreal of God. The defiant Jews were cut off. Pray that they too come to know Yeshua.
@@kac0404 the question is whether Paul meant the the Sabbath when he said this or just the other sabbaths/feast days etc
@@kac0404 we are no longer under the ceremonial aspects of the law. We’re still to spurn idols and murder is forbidden. The question is whether the Sabbath was ceremonial or moral law. If we are to believe it was ceremonial then 9 of the 10 Commandments are moral and just the 4th commandment is ceremonial. This seems odd.
@@elkellenhabla ; KJVB Deuteronomy 31: 24-26 Sanctuary Moses laws which led to JESUS CHRIST BLOOD SACRIFICE were nailed to the cross NOT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS THEY STAND FOR EVER AND EVER
We just kept our first Sabbath this past Saturday. It felt good and right. We’ll continue to follow God’s Sabbath that he gifted to us. Praise God 🙏🏽
Congratulations. Did you follow your first Sabbath as stated in Exodus 16;29. Did you remain at your home for that 24 hour period? Or did you break this command by going to "church" and other destinations such as drive to a park?
*Everyone is to stay where he is on
the seventh day; no one is to go out.*
What does this part mean?
Godless Religion is impresses self and others but NOT God.😅😊
You will find there is much more to the 4th commandment than most talk about.
1. It is the only day God made Holy.
2. It was made for man, not man for the sabbath.
3. It contains God's seal between Himself and mankind. ( A seal always contains 3 points. The Name, the Title and the jurisdiction.
Remember: this is a Holy Day of worshipping our Creator. Honoring Him.
The very thing satan was coveting, desiring and extremely jealous about.
The satanic push to change the sabbath confirms satan trying to appoint his own day of worship.
Most do not understand this because bible prophecy is not studied.
Don't take my word for it. Study it out for yourself.
@terrygreenman1540 where do you find "one must stay home on sabbath? Please explain
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have you ever read Exodus 16:29?
Commandment @24 of 613 of Torah
"Bear in mind that the LORD has given you the Sabbath; that is why on the sixth day he gives you bread for two days. Everyone is to stay where he is on the seventh day; no one is to go out."
And if so, what do you make of it?
I was really interested on hearing the reason Sunday christians keep the first day, but as soon as the second guy(don’t know his name) said we can’t just use the Bible… he lost me. The Bible is our instruction book and if you can’t defend Sunday worship solely from that book then you CANNOT defend it. Period 📍
It's true about Saturday Sabbath I have been spoken to from Father Jehovah in 2014 when I was chained to alcohol and had a demon haunting me! Father warned me that morning after the Holy Spirit revealed my sins to me that I am judgemental a liar and a hypocrite I was surprised because I thought I overcame all that and was just a drunk. But Father told me I must humble myself and then said If I obey no harm would come to me People were trying to kill me and people were getting murdered around me and even my newlywed husband after only 2 months of marriage! He wouldn't surr to God. But after I started practicing Sabbath in 2015 because I felt convicted, I started staying out later and later around 2019. I had a bad feeling something bad was going to happen because I forgot Father is slow to anger. But sure enough, stay out getting rent money order and shopping past dark, me and my 14 lb puppy was attacked on the bus coming back from Walmart! This dog was around 200 lbs! His face was as big as Sammys whole body! I went into shock and couldn't look back while the dog had Sammy. I just kept on pulling on his leash. And it seemed like forever but that monster just let go! And I took Sammy and put him on the seat and hovered over him! The dog started biting my arm but I thought it was strange I didn't feel any pain! Even in shock I knew I would feel something horrific! But nothing! I leaped with Sammy underneath me to the front by the bus driver and you know as I was screaming hysterically I only saw a little blood! It was mine and out of that whole ordeal Sammy only had 2 small bites to his right paw opposite of the attack and I only had 2 small bites that didn't need stitches! So you know what the chances of that are? 0 Sammy should have been ripped apart DEAD! I should have been ripped up as well with a dog that size! I saw a demon in the dogs eyes when he came after Sammy. But Father didn't punish me that night, He saved me with the angels. I wasn't sure even still because my faith was pathetic for a long time, but we had 2 more attacks after that exactly 2 months from the first one and this time i was walking too far from home and couldn't understand what i did wrong, and Holy Spirit let me know and thr last attack nothing happened at all because I was only going around the block. So I know absolutely that for those who don't obey the Sabbath but believe they love God, They are not Born again in the Spirit! If we are Born again and sin against God we will either be attacked by the devil or Father will chastise us somehow. We cannot serve 2 masters and when we sin we give authority to the devil! Please teach everyone how important God's holy Sabbath is because if it wasn't important He would have never made it a 10th commandment!!
@@ce3417 quote----Christianity existed before the Bible was compiled, so there were traditions and they must be considered too.--unquote
I quote you: Christianity existed before the Bible was compiled,"
So, the Sabbath commandment is OVER 4000 years old!! What "traditions" existed in the Garden of Eden??????
Consider this: Jesus concludes, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath” (Mark 2:27-28)
ORIGINAL HEBREW says this: The Sabbath was made for THE man, not THE man for the Sabbath.
Who is "THE MAN"??? ADAM!!!!!!!
---------btw--lets say, "tradition" says, Mary is NOT the mother of Jesus.
true or false? How do you know the answer???
Let's say, "tradition" says a Catholic can kill a Jew when that Jew refuses a demand by a Catholic. True or false??? How do you prove/disprove it???
----Let's say "tradition" says God is not the creator. How will you prove/disprove it?
If that "tradition " DOES NOT agree with the WORD of God, then IT MUST be false!!!! THe WORD of God says the seventh day is the Sabbath!!!
FACTS"
--The ONLY day GOD RESTED ON--Seventh day!! Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11
--The ONLY day GOD BLESSED--Seventh dayt---Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11
--The ONLY day GOD SANCTIFIED--Seventh day--Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11
--The ONLY day GOD NAMED--Seventh day--SAbbath--Isaiah 58:13
--The ONLY day GOD DECLARES as HIS HOLY DAY--Seventh day--Isaiah 58:13, Matthew 24:36-41
This isnt correct. The apostles put together the bible, the doctrines, and traditions. You cannot accept their bible but not their traditions… it doesnt make sense. Therefore, the orthodox christian church is the only correct church
@@xoNatalieShaw quote---The apostles put together the bible, the doctrines, and traditions. --unquote
Nope--wrong
Traditions are usually ,man-made-----What the apostles taught, ONLY what they were taught by Jesus!!!!----
--quote---You cannot accept their bible but not their traditions--unquote
Quote a "tradition" that is not in the bible and taught by the apostles.
----quote---Therefore, the orthodox christian church is the only correct church--unquote
ABOSLUTELY NOT!!!!
Do you FOLLOW the TEACHINGS of Christ??? I guarantee you do NOT!!!
----Which version of the Bible is closest to the original Hebrew?
The Geneva Bible was the first English version to be translated entirely from the original languages of Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.
------Today, some of the leading Baptists even have admitted that the Sunday Sabbath isn’t in the scriptures:
“There was and is a commandment to keep holy the Sabbath day, but that Sabbath day was not on Sunday…It will be said, however, and with some show of triumph, that the Sabbath was transferred from the seventh to the first day of the week….where can the record of such a transaction be found? Not in the New Testament. Of course, I quite well know that Sunday did come into use in early Christian history as a religious day, as we learn from the Christian Fathers and other sources. But what a pity that it comes branded with the mark of paganism, and christened with the name of a sun god, when adopted and sanctioned by the papal apostasy, and bequeathed as a sacred legacy to Protestantism!” Dr. Edward Hiscox, author of The Baptist Manual.
-----FACTS"
--The ONLY day GOD RESTED ON--Seventh day!! Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11
--The ONLY day GOD BLESSED--Seventh dayt---Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11
--The ONLY day GOD SANCTIFIED--Seventh day--Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11
--The ONLY day GOD NAMED--Seventh day--SAbbath--Isaiah 58:13
--The ONLY day GOD DECLARES as HIS HOLY DAY--Seventh day--Isaiah 58:13, Matthew 24:36-41
>>>>>FACTS:
About the catholic church: Change the Sabbath"
Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her,- she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority."- "A Doctrinal Catechism," by Rev. Stephen Keenan, page 174.
"The Catholic Church of its own infallible authority created Sunday a holy day to take the place of the Sabbath of the old law."- Kansas City Catholic, Feb. 9, 1893.
"The Catholic Church, . . . by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday."- Catholic Mirror, official organ of Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893.
"Ques.- Which is the Sabbath day?
"Ans.- Saturday is the Sabbath day.
"Ques.- Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
"Ans.- We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (A. D. 336), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday ."- "The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine," by Rev. Peter Geiermann, C. SS. R.., page 50, third edition, 1913, a work which received the "apostolic blessing" of Pope Pius X, Jan. 25, 1910.
What was done at the Council of Laodicea was but one of the steps by which the change or the Sabbath was effected. The date usually given for this council is 364 A. D.
FACTS:
Biblical Proof the seventh day (Saturday) IS the Sabbath
Matt 27:62 The next day, the one after Preparation Day......(.Saturday)
Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, (Sunday)
Mark 15:42 - It was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath).
Mark 16:1-2 - When the Sabbath was over,(After sunset Saturday)
Mark 16:9 When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week (Sunday)
Luke 23:54 It was Preparation Day, (friday) and the Sabbath was about to begin
Luke 23:56 Then they went home and prepared spices and perfumes. But they rested on the Sabbath in obedience to the commandment.( Just before sunset Friday)
Luke 24:1 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, ....
(Sunday)
John 19:31 Now since it was preparation day (Friday), in order that the bodies might not remain on the cross on the sabbath, for the sabbath day of that week was a solemn one,
John 19:42 because of the Jewish day of Preparation (Friday), since the tomb was close at hand, they laid Jesus there. 42 And so, because it was the day of preparation for the Jewish Passover
John 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early,
(Sunday)
Christians don't "keep" the first day. True Christians worship God everyday and every moment of everyday he is on our hearts and praises.
No one can change what God said.
Of course not, Christians understand the law was a foreshadowing of what was to come, Christ. As stated by Paul. “Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ” (Colossians 2:16-17)
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If truly you know and understand the scriptures as you presume, then please answer these seven (7) questions without skipping any one.
1. Is there a substance without a shadow?
2. Is a shadow not a reflection of the substance?
3. Why did the Gentiles on the Sabbath day plead with the Apostles to rehearse the words that they’ve heard again to them on the next Sabbath day as recorded in Acts 13: 42, 44 if they were not observing the Sabbath even when Christ has died, resurrected and ascended up to heaven?
And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. Acts 13:42
And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God. Acts 13:44
4. Why will all flesh, all mankind come to worship before God from one Sabbath to another in the new heavens and in the new earth as recorded in Isaiah 66:22-23 if the Sabbath is no longer valid?
For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
Isaiah 66:22
And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. Isaiah 66:23
5. Why did Jesus say that the Sabbath was made for man as recorded in Mark 2:27 if not for the benefit of man?
And He said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Mark 2:27
6. Does being Lord over something mean that it is no longer valid?
Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. Mark 2:28
7. If the law nor the Sabbath is no longer valid, why then is a righteous man not lawless nor disobedient according to
1 Timothy 1:9-10?
Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 1 Timothy 1:9
For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; 1 Timothy 1:10
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I gave a condition that if @JanelleH knows and understands the scriptures as he/she claims, then he/she should answer all the 7 questions without skipping anyone.
Besides, it wasn’t you that I directed those 7 questions to.
Have you answered all the 7 questions in my response to @JanelleH?
You are attempting to say things and answer questions that you have no proper Biblical knowledge nor understanding.
This is how people fail in exams.
@@inchristalone25 the gentiles were without God in the world , they had no law.paul said ,do not trouble the gentiles but let them refrain from god worship , blood s,ect read Romans 11isreal fell not beyond recovery no one dear take their place or replace . salvation is of the Jews , Zachariah 8. People from nations will say I will go with you because the almighty is with you the people of law the chosen , the children of Israel the people of the book .so gentiles so playing your 🎮 game time up put the book away . have you no fear?
@@inchristalone25 -Sacrificial of lamb was the shadow of Jesus death on the cross. No animal sacrificed today. Jesus has died & His own blood covered our sins.
Pastor Jim has made a lot of sense. The law of God is eternal.
Indeed.
The law is also covenental and we are not under the law of mosses our covenant is with Yeshua and the new covenant the law was fulfilled
Mat 5:18 ISV because I tell all of you with certainty that until heaven and earth disappear, not one letter or one stroke of a letter will disappear from the Law until everything has been accomplished.
@@dma719 it’s not the law it’s the Commandments that mentions the Sabbath
Revelation 22:14 - Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
The "10 commandments" is the moral law of God and it reflects His character, I don't know who the God of those who deny God's law.
@@dma719 Heb 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
Acts 5:29 We ought to OBEY GOD rather than MEN!!! 😢
@@ThomasDickensheets
Jesus was the Son of man, and the Son of God.... and we ought to Obey God rather than men (Acts 5:29)
@@ThomasDickensheets He was God in the flesh see John 1:14-16
@@ThomasDickensheets Your choice....no skin off my nose as to what you do.
@@yvonnezackery4080 you sound like a baby. You don't know the depth of these establishments . you are not the problem
These leaders are not build on truth
The are glad to eat up the happy one
Yes the Sabbath is a joy
You can keep it
but the root need to be understood
You must rightly divide can't take what
Belong to someone else and glory your self into it being unthankful as if someone spoke to you it evil
@@yvonnezackery4080 ? ? ? There are gods many and lords many many deceivers has gone into the world
Be strong to keep Gods law don't obey man , but Our Heavenly Father
A very good debate. I was a Pentecostal Christian for 20+ years and know how difficult it was to come out of tradition, which is the case for a majority of Christians. Only through Bible study and Holy Spirit guidance does one truly understand and keep the Sabbath. Part of the Three Angels message in Revelation is a warning to God’s professed people to come out of Babylon (confusion and false system of worship).
@@kac0404 quote---Keeping the sabbath was part of the law that Christ took away. “He . . . canceled out the certificate of death consisting of decrees against us . . .; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. --unquote
OBVIOUSLY you have NOT read the Bible!!
The women follerss kept the Sabbath that Friday night --Lukr 23:56
ALL the disciples kept the Sabbath in acts!!! That means Jesus is a SINNNER!! He NEGLECTED to tell anyone the Sabbath was abolished at the cross!!! That means Jesus is a sinner by ommision!!!
NOT qualified to be our savior!!!
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@@kac0404 quote-- But what does that really prove?:--unquote
IT proves they obeyed God!@!@!
---quote---The disciples didn't yet understand that ALL OF THE CEREMONIAL LAW OF MOSES WOULD BE ABOLISHED!!!--unquote
Nope--Not all!!!
Many Jews STILL keep all of them!!!
btw---THe Sabbath Commandment was NOT a cermonial law!!! That would make ALL the Commandments a ceremony.
--You seem to think the only reason they kept the Sabbath was becsuse taught them.
What is your problem? THey were ALL JEWS!!!! FRom the day they were born, the OT was read to them. THey attended church every Sabbath. THEY KNEW when the Sabbath is!!! BY age 14, they are considered an adult after going through a ritual. THey MUST be able to recite from the OT whatever the Rabbis wants, WORD FOR WORD!!! With NO beads to help them remember!!!
@@kac0404 quote---What does Acts 21:26 mean?
To prove to legalistic Jewish Christians that Paul still reveres the Mosaic law, the elders of the church in Jerusalem have asked him to help four men complete what was likely a Nazirite vow. A Nazirite vow is a voluntary, temporary commitment to total dedication to God. The adherents, in this case men, abstain from anything made from grapes and do not cut their hair. At the end of their vow, they must present a sacrifice and shave their heads. If they become unclean, particularly by accidentally contacting a corpse, they must go through an eight-day cleansing ritual and restart their time (Numbers 6:1-21).
Since the men's purification takes seven days (Acts 21:27), some scholars think this is a reset-the difference between eight and seven days may be because Luke counts days in the Greek way and not the Hebrew way. But the offering for a reset is merely two birds each; eight birds wouldn't cost much. The offering to fulfill the vow includes a female lamb, a male lamb, a ram, unleavened bread, loaves of bread, crackers, oil, and a grain and drink offering. Such an expense for four men would go a long way in proving Paul's devotion to the Law and be a sacrifice for someone who supports himself on the field (Acts 18:2-3; 1 Corinthians 9:4-7; 1 Thessalonians 2:9).
Paul arrived in Jerusalem with several men-Jews and Gentiles-who came from modern-day Turkey, Greece, and Macedonia. He presents money collected by their home churches for the church in Jerusalem (Acts 20:4). One of these is Trophimus from the city of Ephesus in Asia, the large district in western Turkey. At some point in this week, Jews from Asia see Paul with Trophimus in the city. When they later see Paul in the temple, they assume Trophimus is with him. Legally, Trophimus is allowed to be outside the temple, in the court of Gentiles. To bring an uncircumcised Gentile into the temple is against the Mosaic law and, since it would be the defilement of a religious structure, it is also against the Roman law. The false witnesses accuse Paul as he stands amidst the temple crowd. The people beat him, and the tribune of the Roman outpost arrests him (Acts 21:27-36).
------As I have said b4--The sabbath feasts WERE abolished at the cross. NOT the Jewish laws of purification!!! Nor many others!!
Sabbth feasts days-POINTING to the sacrifice of Christ!!! I NEVER said ALL the 613 laws were abolished!!
--quote--- Animal Sacrifices: Acts 21:26--unquote--
ESV Then Paul took the men, and the next day he purified himself along with them and went into the temple, giving notice when the days of purification would be fulfilled and the offering presented for each one of them.
As i said--the purification laws WERE NOT abolished.
----quote---Circumcision: Acts 16:3
Paul recognized God's favor on Timothy's life and wanted him to accompany them in ministry, but Paul had Timothy circumcised first because of the significant Jewish community living in the region, and everyone knew that Timothy's father wasn't a Jew.
---Was Timothy a Jew?? YES!!!
But, gentiles DO NOT need to be circumsized!!!
-----quote---Temple worship: Acts 24:12--unquote
13 Nor can they prove the things of which they now accuse me. 14 But this I confess to you, that according to the Way which they call a sect, so I worship the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets.
---What is the problem there?? btw--He does NOT say anything about worship in the temple!!!
He keeps the Laws--many were given ONLY to the Jews and knows what the prophets said!!!
How do you keep the Sabbath?
Exodus 35
@kac0404 We don't keep it to BE saved. We keep it because we ARE saved and want to please Him.
As a Seventh-day Adventist for over 60 years, after having been a Sundaykeeper, I say to Pastor Jim… congratulations on a solidly biblical presentation of this crucial topic. This debate will continue to rage as we draw nearer to Christ’s return.
Thank you Rebecca! We pray that more people can be blessed by this beautiful instruction from the Most High
EXCELLENT JOB Jim Staley👍 Standing on the Scriptures as your rule of faith and practice. The seventh day is the Sabbath and will forever be. Isa 66:22
@@patriciacole8773 Certainly.
Yes the 7th day is the Sabbath oh yes .who should remember .?who was told to remember who was it given too what ,time place .let non suffer by medaling in other men's matters .why move Israel and juda and the stranger is teaching what?
@@kac0404 the almighty is speaking to Israel through isiah no church involved remember it's the book of the children of Israel .he have not spoken to no other psalm 147 . No metaphorical word for word . Christians .stay in Galatians, Ephesians ect.
@@kac0404 there is nothing called.he fee Sabbatharians, nothing will be going on in heaven this is the Hebrew the Messiah is on earth the land of Israel his feet shall stand on mount olive 🫒 Israel return isiah speaking about the land everything onearth .read Zechariah 8:20-23 nation will say to Jews I am coming with you because I hear the almighty is with you Sabbath is not for Christians Paul is their apostles Ephesians Galatians Romans , Corinthians just be good if want to keep Sabbath as a stranger isiah 56 in future you will get a place in the house ten your burnt offerings will be accepted but now practice Israel way it's a good thing psalm92
No excellent job Jim Stanley is not standing on any scripture ..he is a Christian ,a gentle the almighty never spoke to him , the gentiles have inherited lies Jeremiah 16:19.he is playing with fire the book is not his , scripture are the law and the prophets Sabbath is part of the law for the children of Israel what is he doing in isiah 66?has he ever observed a new moon 🌙 2the covenant of Sabbath is made with who? the children of Israel the book never said a seal 🛑 stop it.while you are busy isiah 66about new moon and Sabbath please look at Zachariah 8the matter is all Nations will say I am going with Israel and juda . Zachariah 8:23 case close I am holding to their garment their fringe because I hear or understand that yah is with them the chosen people so clear the way don't block it that the children can find the path
The Sabbath is eternal and shall be kept through out eternity
Agreed...
There are no days in heaven like there are no marriages there...
🙏Amen
The Sabbath is what started me on this road....I asked my 'priest' when did eternity end? .... silence...... and the beginning of my journey!
@@Elizabeth-rk3do it's interesting how also in heaven there's no marriages also, lol ,
It just so happens that today Friday 14th, 2023 is the day that I chose to begin keeping The Sabbath. I must add, that there were doubts in me on whether I should keep The Sabbath or not. But something inside of me kept telling me I should, because it’s part of the Ten Commandments. I kept thinking that if I’m breaking one I’m breaking all of them.
But just as soon as I was about to begin my Sabbath, I came across this debate which by the way; it’s the best debate I have witnessed. I truly congratulate these two teachers. They were both fantastic presenting their point of view on The Sabbath. I must say that this debate strengthened my belief of The Sabbath, and Pastor Jim put it in a clearer way for me. I honestly think that our LORD & SAVIOR JESUS wants us to keep all The Ten Commandments. Like Pastor Jim said, how can you not keep The Sabbath? By not keeping The Sabbath your abolishing the other commandments which means we can then murder or commit adultery without being convicted? These laws are the ones keeping us closer to GOD. I believe The Ten Commandments were given to all of us. How can I not keep The Sabbath when GOD himself made it a day of rest and also holy? I will most definitely try my best to serve THE LORD with all my heart, with all my soul, and with all my strength. Keep it Holy, for HE is Holy.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
May God bless you and keep you and you are on the right track keep going you've got it totally right god bless you so happy for you you made my day❤❤
Thank you my friend. You have made my day. That debate was filmed over 10 years ago and I am grateful to the Father that He is still using it today. You won't regret it. He will lead you and bless you for your try. Stay in love and let Him guide you closer to Him every day.
😊thank you for explaining the scriptures so clearly, why would the Sabbath be changed to the 1st day of the week. God's word is the word to live by.
@@theTruthwillsetyoufree quote--- Our Lord fulfilled the Sabbath law, for Born-Again people are EVERY DAY HOLY...--unquote
Nope--He fulfilled the sacrificial sabbath.-NOT the weekly Sabbath.
@@kac0404 quote--THE SABBATH WAS ABOLISHED ----Galatians 3:16-29.--unquote
I strongly suggest you read those verses again!!!
What was the old covenant?? Promises made by the Israelites that they would keep Gods laws. They did NOT!!!! THe fault was theirs.
----New Covenant--God would write His Laws on their hearts!!!
Nothing else changed!!!
The ONLY Sabbaths that were abolished were the feast sabbaths- ALL pointing towards the sacrifice of Jesus. The weekly Sabbath pointed BACKWARDS to creation!!!
Biblical Feast days
They are observed by Jews and a minority of Christians. Two of the shabbath (holy assemblies) occur in spring on the first and last day of the Feast of unleavened bread (Matzot). One occurs in the summer, this is the Feast of Weeks (Shavuot). And four occur in the fall in the seventh month.
----Also, IF the weekly was abolished, then WHY dod the women followers of Jesus keep the Sabbath that Friday evening?? Luke 23_56---ALL the disciples kept the Sabbath in Acts.
ALSO. the Sabbath is a PERPETUAL promise to Isreal.
Exodus 31:13-14
"Speak also to the children of Israel, saying: "Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the LORD who sanctifies you. You shall keep the Sabbath, therefore, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people.
Exodus 31:16-17
Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed.""
Perpetual---FOREVER--NEVER ENDING!!!
--Does God lie, especially to His people???
--------quote--which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, --unquote
I suggest you research what the ordinances are that were given to Israel.
In the second part of his second speech, Moses describes in detail the “statutes and ordinances” that God charges Israel to obey (Deut. 6:1). These rules deal with a wide array of matters, including war, slavery, tithes, religious festivals, sacrifices, kosher food, prophecy, the monarchy, and the central sanctuary. This material contains several passages that speak directly to the theology of work. We will explore them in their biblical order.
In case the commandments, statutes, and ordinances in God’s covenant might come to seem like nothing but a burden to Israel, Moses reminds us that their primary purpose is to bless us.
If you heed these ordinances, by diligently observing them, the Lord your God will maintain with you the covenant loyalty that he swore to your ancestors; he will love you, bless you, and multiply you; he will bless the fruit of your womb and the fruit of your ground, your grain and your wine and your oil, the increase of your cattle and the issue of your flock, in the land that he swore to your ancestors to give you. (Deut. 7:12-13)
If you obey the Lord your God: Blessed shall you be in the city, and blessed shall you be in the field. Blessed shall be the fruit of your womb, the fruit of your ground, and the fruit of your livestock, both the increase of your cattle and the issue of your flock. Blessed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl. Blessed shall you be when you come in, and blessed shall you be when you go out…. The Lord will make you abound in prosperity, in the fruit of your womb, in the fruit of your livestock, and in the fruit of your ground in the land that the Lord swore to your ancestors to give you. The Lord will open for you his rich storehouse, the heavens, to give the rain of your land in its season and to bless all your undertakings. (Deut. 28:2-7; 11-12)
Obeying the covenant is meant to be a source of blessing, prosperity, joy, and health for God’s people. As Paul says, “The law is holy, and the commandment is holy and just and good” (Rom. 7:12), and “Love is the fulfilling of the law” (Rom. 13:10).
Pastor Jim used the Word, the Bible where Chris Rosebrough mainly used uninspired men's writings. Good debate .
Thank you Pastor Jim for standing up for the truth.
Yes! His inability to stick to scripture screamed at me l, how desperately he’s trying to fit his narrative. He also twisted scripture when speaking about the holy days and feasts being a shadow of things to come
It's God's word against man's word and interpretation
The question is who made sense.
God is the God of the universe. His day and night is not confined to the sun light and shadow of the earth which causes our day and night.
You go to the moon. Your day and night will no longer be 24 hours. But then wherever you are, you are supposed to observe Sabbath from sunset to sunset. For a start, if you are in US, you go to Norway and try to observe the Sabbath there especially from the month of April till August. Have a great time resting there by observing the Sabbath. By the time you return, your business will no longer remain the same due to non operation for months.
@@emmacarter6792 quote--- He also twisted scripture when speaking about the holy days and feasts being a shadow of things to come.--unquote
That is EXACTLY what they were. ALL pointing to the coming of Jesus and His sacrifice!!!
@@mitchellosmer1293 They were a shadow, and as per all the other shadows, are not a part of the New Covenant. Look at Hebrews:
Moses -> not part of the New Covenant, replaced by Jesus. (Servant -> Son)
The OT sanctuary -> not part of the New Covenant, replaced by Jesus. (Building -> God's son)
The Levitical priesthood -> not part of the New Covenant, replaced by Jesus. (Levi's priesthood -> Melchizedek's priesthood)
The Sabbath -> Not part of the New Covenant, replaced by Jesus. (Day of Rest -> Believer's rest).
Please pray for me and my family to make a final decision to start keeping the Sabbath. Pastor Jim. I am Sunday keeper, but your teachings touch my heart . I need help.
Did Jesus and the apostles keep the sabbath?
John 5:17-18
17 In his defense Jesus said to them, “My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working.” 18 For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
Yes the Messiah kept the Sabbath he a Jew salvation is of the Jew ,as his custom was so read the law and prophets the almighty taught Israel his people he took from the house of bound age exodus how to keep he spoke to no other nations (no church)psalm147 Israel speak to the children of Israel .the Messiah father can do want he want ,how he want Israel listen and obey return oh children of Israel
We will be praying for you
@@hannahbowers1469
John 5:
18 For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
@@gardysauveur529 in Matthew , Messiah said I didn't come to destroy the law and the prophets .if you are an Israeli or a Jew the law of Sabbath is for you if not do as you like join as a stranger .but remember salvation is of juda
I was Sunday worshiper Now I become a Sabbath keeper Now 🙏 I found it very interesting to keep God Sabbath 🙏 I love it because I feel like am worshiping the right day in the Santurary ,,, my heart mind and soul are free Now cause am walking in the truth
Shalom! Many Hebrew Israelites have been led into believing that Sunday is the right day of worship, not knowing that the Roman and Gentiles leaders changed the Shabbat to Sunday in order to celebrate the Sun gods. The Church tried to holds that they observe Sunday as Jesus’ resurrection day, but if that was the case, then, their “Jesus” would be risen in less that two days after His crucifixion. Because sundown to the next sundown is one day, it is not possible to get three days base on what the Scriptures said about YAHOSHUAH’S death, burial and resurrection.
Dr. Moreh Yeshu
You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.
@@Yah150 what are you a Doctor of? Obviously it is not theology.
It is common knowledge that the ancient Jews considered that any part of a day constituted a whole day when using a phrase like Jesus did reoeatedly "in 3 days I will rise". Jesus died about 3 in the afternoon on Friday, was in the grave all day Saturday, and rose in the morning on Sunday. In the Jewish reckoning, this was "3 days". It is foolish and ignorant in the extreme to employ your argument. This is a matter of change of Covenant and what the Apostles taught and practiced, as the Gospel was committed to them, not to you or I. Paul was far more an expert on this subject than anyone alive today, and he clearly refutes this Sabbath continuation idea, ss well as the practice of all Jewish ceremonial laws and customs.
Jesus is the end of the Law for all who believes in Him.
It is not helpful to use the Law for any purpose than to reveal sin to the lost and unrefenerate. It is a schoolmaster to lead one to Christ. The Spirit then empowers one by Grace to Agape Love that exceeds the righteousness of the Law.
Anyone who studies Galatians and Hebrews could never be deceived into being a Sabbatarian.
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Sorry but u r condemned by not desiring to study for urself. The 7th day Sabbath cocoons the entire GOSPEL of Jesus. Study to show urself approved unto God. Also Galations unequivocally states that we are ALL Israel in Jesus. Revelation 22 states that u CANNOT enter heaven without keeping Gods commandments. U have been deceived by the Jesuit counter reformation interpretation of Gods Word. Keeping Gods commandments is rhe manifestation of the Spirit within.
@@andrewchurney8864 Suggestion: Go back to ur studies Andrew.Romans 3:31 "Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law".....The NEW COVENANT/GOSPEL of JESUS IS Law in Heart and mind. Heb 8 and 10ie: Holy Spirit MANIFESTING Gods Holy Commandments. Sorry, but u aint going to heaven b/c u have no Holy Spirit states Revelation 22:14
Pastor Jim has said some so profound:- It is not about salvation but whether we should keep the sabbath or not. It is about obedience even as we claim to love christ. - WHO have the testimony of Jesus and KEEP His COmmandments. Jesus obeyed the FATHER and so we should.
Amen
Amazing Pastor Jim
God bless your ministry
Thank you Sones!
@@PassionForTruthVideo Is keeping the Sabbath necessary for one to go to heaven Jim Staley ?
If you are aware of the changes from God's law to man's law and If you love God ❤️.
It's simple If you love me keep my commandments. John 14:15
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I don't imagine not keeping the Sabbath will keep anyone from salvation, but I can guarantee you that keeping the Sabbath day holy would be beneficial to anyone who does it. And that goes without question.
I have a co-worker that keeps the sabbath but I wish her tongue would rest then too. She’s very condescending and has a spirit of self-righteousness and jealousy. She prides herself on keeping all the feasts but is incapable of looking at her heart. The cup is clean on the outside but that inside ……😮 and you don’t want to stand next to her during worship. She raises her hands not just high but wide and spins back and forth in your personal space. Reminds me of the Pharisee raising his hands and thanking God loudly that he is not like those sinners.
Very nice all those that can keep it here but Ezekiel 20 40 says in the mountains of Israel shall all serve me with one consent
@jeanclaude7018 you have no rights to put your self in Israel comanment your law is in Acts 15 about blood and kill murder , you came in by faith leave Israel as a nation law your remember is lot wife stay quiet in you organisation book is the of the children of Israel and juda and then are returning
@jeanclaude7018 it not for you in the first cas command not for you it's for the children of Israel l left the childreen first be feed5
@jeanclaude7018 a letter Paul wrote to the gentiles in Galatians they are not the chosen Sabbath not given to the law is for Israel
I am a Jew and I can say that Yeshua kept Shabbat perfectly and I invite Pastor Staley to come to Israel , he is welcome with love, you search for truth without any hate ..God bless you
Yes he did, because he came to fulfill it, HE is Lord of the Sabbath he came to bring rest to all who will believe unto him. Cease from your religious works and rest in Him.
@@hoxiefam6731
Fulfill is not to end. It is to accomplish.
I always find it interesting that no Christian would ever violate any of the 10 Commandments EXCEPT for #4!
The first 3 commands are about God.
The last 6 about man.
God meets man on the Sabbath!
It's that simple. 🙏
@@eswn1816 when Jesus was asked about the commandments he said they could be summed up as Love the Lord your God with all your heart all your mind and all your soul and love your neighbor as yourself. Everyone following each as a rulebook seem to skip over his words.
@@eswn1816 Hebrews 4 the author addresses the issue of the Jewish day of rest, the sabbath. He sets the tone saying in v3: “We who have believed have entered into rest.” Hebrews 4:8-9: “If Joshua had given them rest God would not have spoken about a later day of sabbath (rest) to come. Therefore there is a Sabbath-rest for the people of God. For anyone who enters into His rest must also cease (rest) from their own works, as God did.”
This is why Jesus said in Mark 2: 27 and 28: “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath.”
Jesus here made the case that HE is the Sabbath-rest long predicted with each day off every Jewish person took through the centuries. HE is the Sabbath-rest who was made for man because that Sabbath day off was made for man - and so was He. With each bull and goat and sheep and bird offered as a blood sacrifice it spoke to a time where a final sacrifice would be made to bring a rest between God and human kind once and for all. Jesus is that rest. Jesus brought that Sabbath-rest.
But to enter into His rest, you have to cease from your own works. You have to accept the grace. And once accepted, you can’t go back to working formulas to find peace with God the Father. Once you have Jesus, as Paul stated in Romans 8: 32, you have all things.
This is why Paul in his letters to the Corinthians and Colossians and as we see in Hebrews, the teaching that Jesus is our Sabbath-rest, which makes every effort on our part to make peace with the Father obsolete. Jesus is all we need. Once we have Him, it is proof we have ceased from our own works (efforts) to get to God.”
@@hoxiefam6731
Love God = Absolutely!
It is also written:
1 John 5:3 KJV -
"Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous."
All of the commandments point to loving God and our neighbor.
Loving God is to rest when God rests to both remember and honor His creation. It is not grievous (difficult). It is done with joy! 🙏
I am married w/children, Raised Pentecostal Christian and about 20 years ago had a desire/longing to begin observing the Feast Days in Bible but did not know anyone doing it and more recently (this last year) the Holy Spirit has continued to reveal in the Bible about keeping the Sabbath. So this September I made it official (so far just me, husband and children are still doing sun) and although this world (especially here in CA) is set up to go completely against keeping the true sabbath, I am doing my best to learn how to honor my Jesus and spend time with Him on the sabbath.
My family and I started in 2022, we're growing!
Jim thanks for the closing remarks. God bless you ABUNDANTLY
Jim Staley made his entire case just in his opening statement. What a wonderful gift he has to articulate and explain God’s commandments with correct historical context
That 20 min opening statement is absolute GOLD.
Anytime someone says not to use scripture alone to determined something, that is a red flag, the Bible is the only authority we should use.
Amen to that!
Amen 2 Tim 3:16
Yes,yes right
Yes yes the book of the children of Israel they trying to remove the name Israel and juda the chosen people read Jeremiah 16 19 Zechariah 8 23 they will say I will go with Israel
Yes yes you right the book of the children of Israel
The Sabbath is a blessing in my life.
You wrong
@@kac0404 that's wrong. Christ did not abolish the Sabbath of the 10 commandments. it was the ceremonial Sabbaths that Christ fulfilled in His ministry. the annual Sabbaths were the shadows and Christ is the reality.
@@kac0404 the seventh day Sabbath of the moral law was instituted before sin entered the world. this Sabbath of YHWH, our God, points to God as the Creator of all things. while the ceremonial, annual Sabbaths were shadows and pointed to Christ and His ministries to remedy the sin problem. those Sabbaths were the ones referred to in Colossians 2, not the seventh day Sabbath. it is the seventh day Sabbath that tells us why God is worthy of our worship. why should it be abolished?
@@sharontaga9866 quote---@zalinadecaires3380
1 month ago
The Sabbath is a blessing in my life.
you: You wrong
That is an OPINION with NO facts.
PROVE him wrong!!!
@@kac0404 quote-- It was a word used in regard to the observation of the seventh day of the week (our Saturday) which God enjoined upon Israel. --unquote
LOl--ROFL
Jesus concludes, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath” (Mark 2:27-28). His response to the ...
So, WHERE is the name "Jew" in these verses???
--quote---To the Christian, however, the Sabbath, the seventh day of the week, has no such significance.--unquote
LOL--ROFL
What is a "Christian"?? A FOLLOWER of the TEACHINGS of Christ!!!
AGAIN: esus concludes, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath” (Mark 2:27-28). His response to the ...
Where does that verse say NO Christians???
------Why do Christians keep the Sabbath day holy?
God created the world in six days, and on the seventh day He rested (see Genesis 1:1-Genesis 2:2). This seventh day is the Sabbath day. When God gave Moses the Ten Commandments, one of His commandments was to “remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy” (Exodus 20:8).
----Where in that commandment does it say ONLY for Israel???
Glory be to God Almighty for he will never change. Malachi.3:6. Hebrews.13:8. Whatever he sanctified is still Holy even today and forever 🙏🙏📖📖📖🇿🇲
Beautiful!!! Amen! And praise Him that this is true!
He spoke to the children of Israel and juda
Malakyah have nothing to do with you ,he is speaking to the children of Israel not everyone are you from yacob lineage? Area you a Hebrew ? The word must be line upon line a little here and there ,by the mouth of two or three witnesses read Jeremiah 16 19 and Zachariah 8 23 nations will say I will go with Israel and juda because I hear that God is with you
@@kac0404 Messiah spoke to the Jews they understood ,no debate on law do away or not they are law people Christians who want to get involved in other men's matters cause lots of confusion
@@kac0404 Peter was the apostle to the Jews .so he knew the context because of Israel , and juda behaviour . Paul was the gentiles apostle.in their Christian age being accepted by faith only believing on the name of Messiah .this quote from Peter came from Hosea a prophet of Israel .
I pray to God Help me enjoy the Sabbath celebration In Heaven also. South Sudan
Am glad you iove the Sabbath but remember to rejoice with Israel because they were given it first unto them were given the original oracle. Deut 32 as nation to rejoice with Israel his people
Wonderful it is a good thing to give thanks bless you as you love truth and pursue after it bless yah halauyah
@@hannahbowers1469
The Sabbath was given to MAN (Adam & Eve) first, and later entrusted with Israel to be a Light to the world.
The Angel in Rev. 14:7, clearly proclaims the "Everlasting Gospel": God's Judgment / the Sabbath.... to every kindred, nation, tongue and people - the whole world has the Sabbath proclaimed to them in the last book of the Bible
Israel "put it (Gospel) from them" so the Apostles "turned to the Gentiles" (Acts 13:46)
"And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the Word of the Lord... " Acts 13:48
God is Love!
@@loren719 You know it's so sad when our people can't devide the words of truth right l
Satan has decided the whole world
Even the very elect(it seam)
Yeremiah 16:19 gentiles (seventh day Adventist) Gentiles will come from the end of the earth 🌎 and say surely our fathers have inherited lies lies
Why are you mixing grapes and apples
? ?
There was no law of sabbath for Adam and Eve
Their law dress the garden
The Sabbath was made for man Messiah spoke to his people Israel and juda is referred to as man
You need witnesses in Hebrew 1:1-4 he made the world for Messiah a Hebrew man
Man shall not live by bread only Deuteronomy 8 3 put things in order
Now revelation gospel to every nation toung
People
A dispensation when the gentiles who was without God in the world some of them accepted the Messiah by faith they received a gift not by law
Law for Israel covenant and faith in Messiah
Gentile faith l in Messiah as Abraham no law except international law : don't eat blood , meat strangle ,man with mam
Gentile can keep Sabbath if they love it isiah56 the strange that join them selves
The Messiah is coming : to rescue and restore Joel 3 for my people Israel who they scattered and parted my land
You will know the people
Zachariah 8 23 nations will say I will go with Israel because I hear that God is with them
The sigh of the Sabbath is on them
Why is the other not wearing the blue 🔵 cord in number 15 ?
All those who keep Sabbath must wear the blue ribbon l
Is because Sabbath is not given to them
Sorry friend wait on yahshua
You are a Man of covenant don't follow the world
@@loren719 who are those stranger foreign joiner that love the Sabbath in isiah 56 if it given to the whole world
Please help I need to know help with the stranger
I so enjoy the Sabbath rest. I now look forward to this day.
Hi but which day is the Sabbath for Christains? I don't want to do what the Catholics changed to Sunday the sun gods day-a demon? I worship Christ everyday and my church often gather during the week for prayer & Bible study? It is a part of the 10 Commandments which was written by God's finger not Moses. Help I don't understand. I think the day should be on Saturday the day Jews do because Jesus was a Jew. Thanks
@@tonya6103….For 6 days you should work and on the Sabbath God commands us to REST! It is the Lord’s day, not Moses day. Yes, we can have a Holy Scripture (a.k.a. bible study) and all other things that are FOCUSED on God EXCEPT work. Yes, we can have “church” on Sunday with a good old fashioned fish fry after with Uncle Bob and Aunt Tilda. We can even wash our car on Sunday But Sunday is NOT the day that God says we are to REST! Hope this helps ❤
@carlathomas5807 yes it does, I wish more Christains would get that. Thank you.
@@tonya6103 quote---Hi but which day is the Sabbath for Christains?--unquote
Anyone that obeys/loves god WILL Obey the Sabbath!!!
Gen 2:1-3 Thus the heavens and the earth and all their array were completed. 2* On the seventh day God completed the work he had been doing; he rested on the seventh day from all the work he had undertaken. 3God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work he had done in creation.
Ex 20:8-11 8 “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
----------any issues, remenber these:
FACTS"
--The ONLY day GOD RESTED ON--Seventh day!! Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11
--The ONLY day GOD BLESSED--Seventh dayt---Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11
--The ONLY day GOD SANCTIFIED--Seventh day--Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11
--The ONLY day GOD NAMED--Seventh day--SAbbath--Isaiah 58:13
--The ONLY day GOD DECLARES as HIS HOLY DAY--Seventh day--Isaiah 58:13, Matthew 24:36-41
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Me too! God knew from eternity past that I would need it. Thank you, Jesus for the Sabbath.
I am a Sabbath keeper for more than 20 yrs now and I found no reason to change it back to Sunday. I always believe that the Bible contains all the truth. There's no Biblical support that we shouldn't observe the Sabbath anymore. Thank you ptr. Jim Staley.
It is clear that the sabbath is the lord day of rest no changes ever make on it .❤
Who told u to worship Jesus on the Creator YAH's Sabbath? Thx
Better read isaiah 66:22
It's permanent in future. Always 7th 😊
@@ElsaMorgan-uk1sd Who's Name is attached to the 4th Commandment, the Creator YAH or the son of Mary, which one? Thx
@gjboehme How did Christians get tricked into socall worshipping the son of Mary on the Creator YAH Sabbath?
Why is the son of Mary name not in the 4th Commandment?
Is the son of Mary the ONE who said *(HAVE NO OTHER gods BEFORE ME)?
God bless you pastor Jim Staley you were used by God
Truth is never popular. Thank you Pastor Jim for telling the Truth!!!
Yep, truth never changed.
lol - depart from me
@@kac0404the Sabbath Law is not part of the Ceremonial Laws. It is part of the Moral Law, the Ten Commandments. I don’t know why Christians don’t understand that simple fact! I believed God has veiled it from their hearts because of unbelieved! Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy, how we have forgotten to do just that because we rather listen to somebody else’s interpretations of what they think it should be instead of fallowing the Biblical direction. Remember to keep it holy and hallow it!
@@kac0404 that’s right but the Sabbath day is grouped with the Ten Commandments, it was created in Genesis before the laws were given on Mt. Sinai! Then in Revelation only those who keep the law will eat from the tree of life!
The thing is, Christ followed the 10 commandments, but he didn't follow the cultural practices. That is part of why they hated Christ. @@kac0404
I always believe in a God who doesn't change the rules at the middle of the game. God is the same yesterday today and forever. Wonderful brain sharpening debate. May many would watch this and be blessed and challenged to search the scriptures.
read, AMEN!
Actually when Jesus died on the cross EVERYTHING changed.
Hebrews 7
11 If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood-and indeed the law given to the people established that priesthood-why was there still need for another priest to come, one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron?
18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless
19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.
“With a loud cry, Jesus breathed his last. The curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom.” - Mark 15:37-38
Romans 8:3-10 NIV
For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering.
2Cor. 5 Verses 14 to 21
[17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold,
ALL THINGS BECOME NEW.
Praise God!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@metathoughts732 question
Does God change ?? will he speak and change his word after for he is God he never change
God's character never changes, but we would completely wrong to assume that God's future actions are easily predictable based on past experinces.
Lamentations 3:22-2
The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
Jesus was very clear:
Luke 22:20
In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.
The Book of Hebrews in the New Testament says:
Hebrews 8:6-7
"But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry that is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises. 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second."
@@donnahamilton4947 His New Covenant changed everything.
Hebrews 8:6-13
"But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises.
7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. 8 But God found fault with the people and said[a]:
“The days are coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
9
It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
and I turned away from them,
declares the Lord.
10
This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my laws in their minds
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
11
No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.
12
For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”[b]
13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."
Amen
The Sabbath remains God’s holy day, made for man to rest. Thank you, Lord for thinking of a resting day to rest in your love and peace! ❤
We rest in Christ now
God almighty never ever did away with the 10 commandments.. so why is it that we think for any reason Jesus did away with that !!!
The problem is we follow man’s Commandments not God !! Sad !!
Christ Jesus is our rest
Hebrews 4:9
Great debate. Thank you pastor Jim for standing up for truth.
I started keeping the Sabbath 21 years ago and I find the Sabbath is God’s true and Holy day which He sets aside for man to worship Him.
Thank you for sharing and keeping all of us in prayer!
HAVE YOU READ MY COMMENT AND THE SRIPTURES THAT SUPPORT MY COMMENT?
HOWCDO YOU REPLY TO MY COMMENT ON A LINE BY LINE AND SCRIPTURE BY SCRIPTURE BASIS?
Jesus Christ has now become our Sabbath rest in Him and worship Him always.
@@tsomongthejings4880 the people of God that find rest in Christ observe the Sabbath according to Heb. 4:9-10.
@@densar7327 Hebrews is not just talking about resting on one specific day but finding eternal rest in Christ.
Jesus in Mark 2:27 said, we are not made for Sabbath that we should become the subject of the Sabbath like how the Pharisees regarded it. But now with the coming and dying and resurrection and glorification of Jesus Christ who is the Lord of the Sabbath, He turned our worship into a heart based worship in truth and in spirit and not a place or day based worship like Sabbath or Sunday (John 4:21-24). Most importantly, it is not on which day we worship that matters but who we worship on whichever day ( Rom 14:5).
Keep this aside and let us all preach the gospel of Christ Jesus and His salvation.
As a Sunday keeper I see that Jim speech is straight to the point. Every word he is speaking is straight to the point. Now I see that Sabbath is the remnant church of God and it's a day that every people on this earth should respect and worship the creator. My father is a Sunday pastor but I have now decide to join Sabbath. John Huss once said, seek the truth, love the truth and defend the truth. Live life in the truth of GOD in accordance with God's word.
So, for now I'd like to encourage everyone that seek the power of the Holy Spirit to understand the truth and which day to worship. For now and onwards I'll keep the Sabbath Holy until my last breath.
❤
Amen!
My dad is a Sunday keeping pastor. He's been a minister over 50 years. The Holy Spirit began drawing me to keep the Sabbath two years ago. My husband and I now love the blessing of the Sabbath! I think my dad thinks it's a phase, but the LORD is only leading us into more and more truth and away from the traditions of men. Bless His Holy Name! 🙌
the day is not important anymore because Jesus has fulfill all the law until he dies, and thats where God rest, God rest when we are sinless, Jesus accomplish that
You have to follow Jesus, not feast days or Sabbaths. Find your rest in Christ.
Amen and god bless you remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy 6 days shell thou Labour and do all thy works happy Sabbath keeping GOD changes not
Pastor Jim won this debate hands down.
Does saying so make you believe it?
@@elkellenhabla No, I'm saying it because I know that, he, Pastor Jim, won the debate hands down.
@@Life1x2meaning you found his arguments convincing? I’m guessing you agreed with his position from the beginning.
@@elkellenhabla Pastor Jim won the debate hands down, period. Get it?
When we are in Christ we will keep Gods Commendments because the Holy Spirit will help us. I'm Christian from Sweden.
Good for you.zachariah 8 23 nations will say I will go with Israel and juda because I hear that the almighty God is with them
Yes be a good Christian
God gave us six commandments and the Sabbath was not added because Jesus Christ is the Sabbath cause he is the one who gives us rest
@@AdamDa1-jx8fc who is the us? You need the strong meat of the word that you may grow
I have Israel laws that they may live you better be thankful rejoice with Israel and juda for giving you Messiah , a gift Those pastor churches who cause people to fall ,not Rightly dividing the words of truth . He who has my word speak it faithfully. The book belong to the children of Israel laws status and judgment these pastor give (allegories). Listen to the prophets of Israel
@@AdamDa1-jx8fc And Yeshua said :: Do my Fathers will. And the Fathers will is that we keep his Commandments and that includes the Sabbath ,And instruktions "Torah".
Read the Law of Sabbath specially the 7:th year Sabbath, and then You really understand why Yeshua is the Lord over Sabbath. That's what the Holy Spirit let me see 21 years after I was baptised in the name of Jesus. It was stunning information that I never did see before.... Then I realized that God was given me the truth about his word as I had pray for since 2011. And there is more much more.
Interesting story about a friend of mine: she was a new Christian and wanted to start keeping the Sabbath and told her boss so. He asked her to first take time to meet with his wife to study the Sabbath before making such a huge decision. She told me she was afraid. I encouraged her that she knew more than she realized, and that God would guide her as she followed her convictions according to His Word.
She went to her boss’s home and as she entered, the woman asked if she was ready to study the Sabbath. My friend noticed two tall stacks of books on the table. She said, yes, if we study only the Word of God. Her teacher looked at the table for a second, and said, well then I guess we have no study.
Beware of theologians. Ask God to show you His truth and He will lead you. The Bible was written for people. Even children can understand enough to be saved.
Very interesting! Wonder what the 'books' were? Even historical books would 'prove' the Sabbath 🙂
@@Elizabeth-rk3do what are you saying exactly? Are you saying DEATH marks the end of your SINS?,which scripture are you quoting? If you are quoting Romans 6vs23 then you HEAVILY MISTAKEN,why am I saying so? Because there are FOUR TYPES OF DEATHS in the Bible so Romans 6 referred to BAPTISM TYPE OF DEATH(dying with Christ and resurrect with him,mortifying the deeds of the flesh,killing flesh and resurrect in spirit Because before Christ died for us we were all spiritual dead/dead in our sins(Ephesians 2vs11-),the seed of Adam(seed of sin) gave birth to all men on the planet,because of Adam our who sinned and SPIRITUALLY DIED WE WERE ALL BORN DEAD (read Romans 5:12-15) so through death of baptism that's where sins are forgiven,through baptism Christ quickened us from death no1 which we inherited from Adam through birth(in flesh),and through one(Christ) we were made alive,SO YOUR SINS DOES NOT DISSAPPEAR THE DAY YOU GO THROUGH MORTAL DEATH NO BUT THE DAY YOU BECOME A NEW CREATURE UNTO THE LORD,THE DAY YOU BECOME SPIRITUAL EVEN THOUGH YOU WILL BE STILL IN FLESH(I'm talking about spiritual man here) there's a flesh body(physical body) there's also a spiritual(he's invisible).
@@Elizabeth-rk3do And we don't inherit eternal life by mortal death NOOOOOO!! but by being saved through baptism which is the death of the deeds of flesh and start to live a new life in Christ,IF YOU DIE TODAY WITHOUT BEING SAVED YOU ARE GOING STRAIGHT TO HELL,YOU SAVED WHILE YOU ARE STILL ALIVE NOT OTHER WAY ROUND AS JEHOVHA'S WITNESSES;they are the servants of the darkness that's heresy thats a blasphemy against our Lord who made a WAY to heaven WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST INPERSONIFIED IN HIS TRUE WORD(John1:1-3&14,John 6),we have recordings in the bible where people were being saved and they never died(mortally)in order for them to enter heaven.
@@Elizabeth-rk3do how come you talk about being justified by faith yet in your initial statement you IF YOU DIE TODAY IT MEANS YOUR SINS ARE FORGIVEN,you are suppose to us the scriptures which says YOU WILL BE JUSTIFIED BY MORTAL DEATH,the whole of Rom 6 apostle Paul was addressing the issue of baptism,baptism is one of the processes to be completed unto salvation,that's exactly what the apostles of the early church preached,we are not starting a new church remember but we are joining the movement unless you have started your own
@@Elizabeth-rk3do we must obey God's law
I was baptiist as a sda 1968 observe the sabbath until now Im 71 years old I was blessed Jesus as his custom kept the sabbath Holy
I was in my teens when I realized that Jesus is a Jewish man, who practiced the Sabbath-Friday sunset to Saturday sunsets….why did his followers divert…. Why can’t the ‘Christian church… be grown up to realize this divergence from his practice?
Because he was Jew
Not Friday sunset, morning to morning light comes first let there be light . it's not atonement everything is order day , night spring summer autumn winter
@@staceyansterling747 Christians want to teach , the chosen , the people of the book take hold of the fring and follow salvation is of the Jew it will come to pass
Why remove Israel and juda and place others I have not spoken to no other nations
As for me and my house I will keep his commandments to the best of my ability
Amén! May Yah bless you and your family
I'm sorry but trying to keep the commandments are not good enough. Jesus kept them perfectly.
As a Gentile, how do I keep the Sabbath? Are there specific rules given for Gentiles, or do I follow the way the Jews keep it?
@@TotoPaulino First of all gentiles never kept the sabbath. It only was for the Jews. Second of all it was under the old covenant. We are in the new covenant. Thirdly, no one could keep it perfectly anyway. That's why Jesus came to fulfill the law and when we are in Christ He is are sabbath.
@@stanneufeld62
Good morning Brother
Would you agree Greek and Gentile is interchangeable ?
Concordance:
Strong's Definitions: Ἕλλην Héllēn, hel'-lane; from G1671; a Hellen (Grecian) or inhabitant of Hellas; by extension a Greek-speaking person, especially a non-Jew:-Gentile, Greek.
In Acts 18:4 the Bible says:
"And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks." Acts 18:4
"And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath." Acts 13:42
These two verses show that the Gentiles and or Greeks observed the Sabbath.
I struggled with and wrestled with GOD about the Sabbath. GOD won when I surrendered. It was a battle until GOD asked if I loved my family more than living in LOVING obedience to HIM. (John 14:15).
Not saying that's your struggle...but, if the truth is set before us and we choose to go against what is revealed, we may have a heart condition.
Blessings🙏🏾📖🔥❤
Wonderful put!!! I'm for keeping the Sabbath. It truly is a gift from God. One in which I'm making arrangements to put into place and practice in my own home and life.
Interestingly the Bible tells us about all kinds of Gifts but never mentions the Sabbath.
1 Corinthians 12:28
And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues. (sic) and some to sit around on Saturdays.
Been observing it for sometime now .
At first a little difficult because old habits are hard to correct .
Also cleaning up what I eat .
Was raised on pork but know now it is not for human consumption.
Even Noah knew difference between clean and unclean .
So how do you know how to keep the Sabbath?
What ole habits did you have to break?
asking for myself
@@jimharmon2300
@@metathoughts732 quote---1 Corinthians 12:28
And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues. (sic) and some to sit around on Saturdays. unquote
-WHY did you mis-quote that????
1 Corinthians 12:28 And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues.
-So, you consider those that keep the seventh day Sabbath as "sitting around"?
The Apostles used the Sabbath to go to meetings of unsaved Jews and share the gospel, risking life and limb. Do you keep the Sabbath as the Apostles did? Or do you just rest up?
There's a reason why the fourth commandment says *REMEMBER* the Sabbath. Because people have forgotten that the 7th day of the week is Saturday. Through reading the scriptures, it's also important to bear in mind we don't keep the Sabbath for righteousness, we aren't under the law but grace. However that doesn't mean we don't follow the commandments, but rather our reasons for following the commandments have changed. How many times do the scriptures read "if you love me, follow my commands?" So for me, I keep the Sabbath because I love God and that is the way I show it.
Yes, the Israelites should remember the Covenant made in the wilderness in Exodus. But what the Romans and the Chinese have to remember who never came out from the Egyptian slavery?
@@soreichithung6383 read the second half of my comment.
The only reason Yahweh says "Remember " because this law is not a natural law,it is not written in the hearts of men like other laws. Each of us know from birth ,that murder is sin, adultery is sin, disobedience to parents is sin , hypocrisy is sin. But non of us is born knowing that the sabbath should be kept. By very nature of the Fourth commandment , God intended it to be temporal not permanent.
Yes there is a reason but the reason was not given to you Gentile. It was given to Israel. They are the reason it was said to and to who it was said to REMEMBER the Sabbath.
No mention of creation or God resting or the blessing the Sabbath received appears in the
commandment in the book of Deuteronomy. Instead, Moses states, “ *Remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt and the Eternal your God freed you* from there… therefore the Eternal your God has commanded you to observe the Sabbath day.” This explanation appears somewhat removed from the day itself, not as closely tied to it as the other [which links it to the seventh day of creation on which God rests]. How does God’s freeing Israel from Egypt lead to sanctifying the Sabbath?
The answer unfolds in layers. To begin with, the image of God in this version of the commandment matches the image of God in the first commandment, which reads, “I the Eternal am *your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt* ….” This is a familiar God. This is the God who works through history, the God whose liberation of the Israelites from Egypt forms a central theme of the Bible and lies at the core of Jewish life. In addressing the Israelites shortly before his death, Moses is speaking to people who witnessed that liberation or heard about it directly from their parents or other family members.
For them, God as creator may seem remote. God as redeemer is the God they know. Calling up that aspect of the divine in the Sabbath commandment stirs in them memories of the slavery they suffered and God’s feats in delivering them from it. Observing the Sabbath God ordained is a way of memorializing their deliverance and honoring the deity who brought it about.
(Exodus 31:16,17 Artscroll Translation). The Sabbath was given as a sign and covenant to Israel, a Gentile is forbidden to observe the Sabbath or to make a Sabbath of their own, a Halachah codified in the Mishneh Torah, Laws of Kings 10:9.
Seventh Day Adventists and other Sabbath keepers are trying to observe the Sabbath of Israel, but not God's true Sabbath. Here's how.
When God gave the law through Moses, it was for the people of Israel, not the gentiles.
Israel's Sabbath is just a foreshadow of God's Sabbath. It is just a copy.
What Israel were commanded to do was just a copy of what God has in store. If you disagree, then substantiate your arguments against mine given below.
To start with, use your common sense and think outside of the box. Keep these facts in mind.
1. Before God make appear the dry land and create the sun, God had his day 1, day 2, day 3 .... which had morning and evening. This fact is read from Genesis.
Now if our day and night coincides with God's day and night, then the duration of God's day and night is a 24 hours cycle. If this is not the case, then Israel's Sabbath is not coinciding with God's true Sabbath. That means Israel's Sabbath which God gave them to observe is not God's true Sabbath. In that case, Seventh Day Adventist's main pillar of faith is destroyed the Seventh Day Adventist's Church will be a false Church. Thus, to sustain the claim of Seventh Day Adventist's Church, they must prove that God's Sabbath day coincides with Israel's Sabbath. I hope you will attempt to prove this.
2. God's day and night were not because of the sunlight and the shadow of the earth. But if God's day 1 is equal to 24 hours duration, then it could very well coincide with Israel's Sabbath which has 24 hours duration.
Now, if God had his Day 1, Day 2 ...., then it is fair to imagine that the time duration should be of equal duration because God's time will not be determined by the rotation of the earth in its axis or the revolution of the earth in elliptical orbit around the sun.
3. Now, God is the God of all people. And if we say one day is equal to 24 hours, then day and night is not the issue to determined the time duration. Therefore, there is no need to start the Sabbath at sunset on the sixth day in Israel. However, if sunset and sunrise is used to determine the duration of the Sabbath day, then the people of Norway will have to observe lengthy Sabbath day during April to August. This means the time period of Sabbath for Norwaygians will be more than thousands hours while for Israel, it is only 24 hours. So, how can Norwaygians observe Sabbath like the Israelites? Isn't the God of Israel also the God of Norwaygians?
This problem shows that either the God of Israel was a liar and not the true God or Israelites are not keeping God's true Sabbath. Either way, the Seventh Day Adventists are in error because they are neither following God's instruction on Sabbath given through Moses nor do they keep God's true Sabbath.
While a Seventh Day Adventist start keeping the Sabbath in Israel, his fellow Adventists in US will be working and his fellowmen in Norway will be wondering how to keep the Sabbath because God did not say look at the watch to keep the Sabbath. There is no way Seventh Day Adventist will be able to keep the Sabbath around the world at the same time when they all worship the same one God.
Since Sabbath keepers claim they keep God's Sabbath while they break it by not being able to observe the Sabbath at the same time worldwide, the Seventh Day Adventist Church as a whole has errred and therefore, it cannot be the true Church.
4. History does not support the claims of Seventh Day Adventist Church
Thanks to everyone involved in this production. Thanks to everyone who shared their experience with the sabbath. It has really really moved me; that I have felt compelled to comment as well...
When our people also first got the sabbath truth these are some of the words that came with it
“Where did the light break out? Let thine angels teach us where the light broke out! It commenced from a little, then Thou didst give one light after another. The testimony and commandments (Rev 12:17) are linked together, they cannot be separated; that comes first the ten commandments, by God.”
“The commandments never would be struck against if it were not to get rid of the Sabbath commandment. That one that has relaxed it is very foolish. It was very small, and when it rose, though it rose in strength, it was weak back there, when it came up it increase, (or increased.) If they won’t hear it they are as accountable as though they did hear it.”
“He was well pleased when His law began to come up in strength, and the waste places began to be built up.” (Isa 58:12-14)
“Out of weakness it has become strong from searching His Word. The test upon it has been but a short time. All who are saved will be tried upon it in some way. That truth arises and is on the increase, stronger, and stronger. It’s the seal! (Rev 7:2) It’s coming up! It arises, commencing from the rising of the sun. Like the sun, first cold, grows warmer and sends its rays.”
“When that truth arose there was but little light in it, but it has been increasing. O the power of these rays.”
“It grows in strength, the greatest weight and light is on that truth for it lasts forever when the Bible is not needed. (Isa 66:22-23)It arose there in the east, it began with a small light, but its beams are healing. O how mighty is that truth; it’s the highest after they enter the goodly land, but it will increase till they are made immortal (1st Cor 15:51-54). It commenced from the rising of the sun, keeps on its course like the sun, but it never sets.”
“The angels are holding the four winds.” (Rev 7:1)
“It is God that restrains the powers.”
“The angels have not let go, for the saints are not all sealed.” (Rev 7:1-4)
“The time of trouble has commenced, it is begun. The reason why the four winds have not let go, is because the saints are not all sealed. It’s on the increase, and will increase more and more; the trouble will never end until the earth is rid of the wicked.”
“At that time neighbor will be against neighbor (Zec 14:13). That time has not yet come, when brother against brother and sister against sister (Matt 10:21); but will come when Michael stands up.” (Daniel 12:1)
“When Michael stands up this trouble will be all over the earth.” (Daniel 12:1)
“Why they are just ready to blow. There’s a check put on because the saints are not sealed.” (Rev 7:1-4)
“Yea, publish the things thou hast seen and heard, and the blessing of God will attend. Look ye! that rising is in strength, and grows brighter and brighter. That truth is the seal, that’s why it comes last. The shut door we have had (Rev 3:8). God has taught and taught, but that experience is not the seal, and that commandment that has been trodden under foot will be exalted. And when ye get that you will go through the time of trouble. (Daniel 12: 1)”
“Yea, all that thou art looking at, thou shalt not see just now. Be careful, let not light be set aside which comes from another way from which thou art looking for.”
Jim you done a great job. I have kept the sabbath for many years. To honor the sabbath is a blessing in my life. God Bless you my brother.
You should honor the Sabbath by doing what Paul and the Apostles did on the Sabbath. They are a great example.
Here is what Paul did on the Sabbath:
Acts 17
Now when they had traveled through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where there was a synagogue of the Jews. 2 And according to Paul’s custom, he visited them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures, explaining and giving evidence that the Christ had to suffer and rise from the dead, and saying, “This Jesus whom I am proclaiming to you is the Christ.” 4 And some of them were persuaded and joined Paul and Silas, along with a large number of the God-fearing Greeks and a significant number of the leading women.
Is this what you do on the Sabbath?
Do you go to the lost and share the Good News?
Now that would be something to boast about.
He sure did do a good job God bless the Seventh-Day Saturday
@@rj-jp5vu God bless the New Covenant that makes the old one obsolete.
@@metathoughts732 quote---God bless the New Covenant that makes the old one obsolete.--unquote
Quote the New Covenant the says anything about the Sabbath!!!
I’m keeping the Sabbath with my family for 2 yrs already and it has been a blessing for my house and reinforce love in all my family members ❤ God does miracles and I’ve seen them since I’m keeping the Sabbath ❤️
but how do you keep the Sabbath. Which Bible passages do you consult to find out how and why to keep the Sabbath?
@@metathoughts732 Quote---but how do you keep the Sabbath. Which Bible passages do you consult to find out how and why to keep the Sabbath?- unquote
IS there something wrong with you computer?? Are you so lazy you need others to do your research??? FOLLOW the example of Jesus!!!
@metathoughts732 you do what is thought by exodus 20 and what Jesus thought I the new testament that says sabbath was made for man not man for the sabbath and it is good to good om a sabbath but please pray about it and ask God to lead you to the God fearing faith that keeps the sabbath for guidance
So you never say God do a miracle on a Sunday?
@@metathoughts732 , try yourself reading all CHAPTERS of GENESIS
As a child hated the sabbath … as an adult I pray for the sabbath to come quicker .
@@kac0404Your poor hermeneutics are easily dismantled.
@@kac0404Mathew 5:17.....New King James Version
“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
@@kac0404 Don't lie, that is just your interpretation, well the Sabbath is part of the 10 commandments and if you say that it is finished, so you mean that we are allowed to kill, to steal/ which is the 6th&7th commandments, please don't deny the commandments just because of the Sabbath.
It's all in one verse, If ye love me keep my commandments. 4th commandment included. It's that simple.
The son of the stranger isiah 56 stay in your place you love the Sabbath stay in your place and give thanks and rejoice with Israel Deut32. When he said REMEMBER he said it to the children of Israel
@@ThomasDickensheets how can I do that ? When the Sabbath has to be kept in the land of sabbath . The Sabbath was not given to the world ,it is a gift to the children of Israel from the almighty because he made the heavens and earth in six days and RESTED on the seventh day it is a sign between him and the children of Israel. The Tora , laws is for them
If you love me keep my comanment Messiah speaking to his brethren on a love conversation not necessarily Sabbath but a whole.
We cannot even serve him here Ezekiel 20 40 in the mountains of the height of Israel there will all the house of Israel worship me.
So you may have wrongly understand some thing I am not the Messiah who will rule All nations with a rode of iron.
I have read in Joel 3 says he is coming for the scattered children of Israel and juda because they have scattered them and parted his land.
Nations will say I am going with Israel and juda because I hear that God is with them.zachariah 8:23.
Yeremiah 16:19 The Gentiles will come and say our fathers have inherited lies
He never gave any one forth comanment
He spoke about love towards each
Peace what?
@@ThomasDickensheets ??? State your case
@@ThomasDickensheetsit is the only Commandment with the admonishment, "REMEMBER."
I find this significant and prophetic of the apostasy to come.
Thanks for a clear explanation pastor Jim Staley I am with you..
We obey The Law (10 Commandments) because we love the Lord God. We love the Lord God that is why we obey the Law!
It is important to understand the difference between law and commandments, A command from God means what we are commanded to do. Therefore we have the 10 commandments, including the 4th commandment- Remember the Sabbath Day and keep it holy. Keep the Sabbath and you will see what the almighty will do in your life. Even in the new earth, we will keep the Sabbath.
Hey stop playing games Christians are out of law and commands . remember the Sabbath was not said to Christians , because he never taught ,or gave them Sabbath he taught Israel in exodus 16, he reminded them in exodus 20 .he made covenant between him and them and will renew it in Hebrew and Jeremiah .so he who speak his word speak Iit truthfully so go tell your defiling dreams
Enjoy the Rest....Refreshed, Renewed, Revived.
@@hannahbowers1469Be careful!!! Question is when israel becoming exist in this world?of course it is after the flood,and if its so,Who told to keep sabbath keeping it holy? OF COURSE IS ADAM & EVA and that I why Bible says the sabbath was given to the human being so if you are human being sabbath is yours BUT IF YOU ARE ANIMAL, PLANT, AND OTHER THINGS "SABBATH IS LESS CONCERN.
The people of Israel , the give of law he gave and taught and reminded in exodus 20 no other nation or people Roman 9
Stay away from the law of the children of Israel gentiles have inherited lies Jeremiah 16 19 please read Zechariah 8 23 nations will say to the Jews I will go with you because I hear that the almighty God is with you case close. Not s d a Israel Jew salvation is of the Jew not Christians . Jews
Jim has got to be one of the best debaters for Torah observants. Jim, you put a big smile on the Lords face! God bless you brother, i look forward to meeting you one day. if not in this system i guess ill see you in the kingdom 👍 shalom shalom 🙏
@@rayapapa5946 what is Jim doing debating Tora ? A gentile The word the almighty gave to the children of Israel ?
Was Jim not afraid?
Shama Israel Speak to the children of Israel
Verily my sabbath you must keep it's a sign between me And the children of Israel.
Be still and stand in awe
@@hannahbowers1469
You said:
"what is Jim doing debating Tora ?
A gentile The word the almighty gave to the children of Israel ? "
Answer:
Israel was to a Light to the Gentiles.... to share God's Word with them.
Torah - the first five books of the Bible spoke of Jesus:
"For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of Me. " John 5:46
The Bible and the Ten Commandments were NOT exclusive for Israel, they were ENTRUSTED to Israel to share with the Gentiles and all the World!
To begin with, the Jews were ENTRUSTED with the oracles of God [His very Words]. " Romans 3:2 AMP
God is Love!
@@loren719 I did get your point but yes
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Israel has been intrust with the word
The gentiles came by faith in Messiah ,
Not by covenant hi
Organization is what confusion
The word the truth is what real truth
Now they have Creation Sabbath
They keep days,time I am afraid of them
They worship the creation
Disobedience
They don't want the name of Israel to be remembered
Behold to obey is better than sacrifice
The weekly Sabbath is given to the children of Israel and those who love it do it
There is a future blessing for the joiner stranger foreign gentiles in isiah 56
@@hannahbowers1469
The Sabbath was made for MAN (Mark 2:27) not for Jews, but for ALL MAN-kind;
When God entrusted His Sabbath with Israel, He said: "REMEMBER the Sabbath day..... " Ex. 20:8
Remember it, for they forgot it. The Seventh Day Sabbath is from Creation when God Made MAN in His own image (Gen. 1:26) ... there were no Jews then.
God is Love!
@@loren719 and what did God say?
Seventh day Adventist remember to keep the Sabbath?
people of the whole world remember to keep my Sabbath
People remember creation
Remember to honour creation week?
Yes Jews and Israel was not at creation
Was Abraham there was Adam there
Who did he say remember too
He waited for his first born isreal
He took out of the land of Egypt
Remember Israel to keep the Sabbath the strange the foreign joiner Christians that love it keep it
powerful message from pastor jim ... GOD bless you
Was blessed by the debate. Watching on u tube from Zambia. Keep up more of such.
Pastor Jim explained so well. Thank you. Praise God for giving us light and not to follow catholic church but to follow God's Word. 🙏
I wanted to know what was in the debate before committing to a 2 hour video. Now I know. "not to follow catholic church". OK, so this is what it is all about. Right
Yes .....never go catholic! It's not from God!
Keeping the 8 day? ......Jesus!
Church farthers?.......are church farthers greater than God that we trust and uphold their saying?
Yeah....but love by obeying God's Moral Law.
they changed it without Gods permission! Bec Gods words are true, faithful & never changing!
Praise God for His Sabbath Day 💚🙏
The seventh day Adventist is the one who changed things or tink to change time and law they enter a Sabbath conversation they are called strangers foreign joiner gentiles why enter in things that doesn't belong to you ,and playing giver and master or lord wait you turn speak truth
Daniel 7:25
@@birdwingconservation4289 what meaneth thou
@@birdwingconservation4289 say something Daniel the Hebrew is your church in capacity the book of Hebrews for Hebrew Forty years your father 's tempted they saw my work today if you should hear his voice (Israel)harden not your heart
@@birdwingconservation4289 there is nothing there what has Daniel to do with you ?
YAH BLESS YOU JIM STALEY FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH. JOHN 8:31-32
“Yah” is a poetic contraction of Yahveh His full Name.
Jesus said to the people who believed in Him " you are truly my disciples if you remain faithful to my teaching, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free" meaning Jesus is the way the truth and the life (John 14: 6 ) no comes to the father except through Jesus Christ . you will not be save if you observe laws and the sabbath ; Jesus said in John 3:3-7 you must be born again to save!
@@sotera8852 Of course one CAN'T be saved by observing the Law or the Sabbath. Neither can you be saved by observing the New Covenant because it is a PERSON ( Yahshua) who saves. So that is not the issue. The issue is the Law Moses was never annulled, therefore the Sabbath is not abrogated too.
@@David-kk4dr Foolishness!
24And the LORD commanded us to observe all these statutes and to fear the LORD our God, that we may always be prosperous and preserved, as we are to this day. 25And if we are careful to observe every one of these commandments before the LORD our God, as He has commanded us, then that will be our righteousness.”
@@sotera8852 Jesus said: "If you love me you will keep my commandments" including the fourth commandments
I love the first speaker he was more knowledgeable and that's what GOD is looking for Time is at hand.
My prayer is that at the end of this debate , people will by God’s grace see and understand thatGods words stand forever and it’s better to okay God rather than man.
Well done Pastor Jim,you delivered with clarity and on the authority of the Scripture Gods words.
Jesus and the apostles said to obey the Commandments but never is it recorded that either Jesus or the apostles said to obey the Ten Commandments.
Yhe 10 commandments are commandments arent they? Are you trying to say that we shouldbt obey the 10 commandments or that we should obey all the other ones?
I'm sabbath keeper ,so blessed is holy sabbath way keeping .
This is my second time watching this video, it never gets old, my question to Chris would be why would anyone want to follow church fathers when we should only be following the word of God and the one and only true Father.
I guess it can be said ,, that early fathers like the ones in the 1st century were the closest to Jesus and the apostles Time and it’s like a window on how they viewed and lived and thought before the writing of the New Testament
I think using the word of God is not right .the word is the children of Israel the book of the children of Israel .
Kracyvine !!!!! So you are saying that Christ and the Apostles FAILED to establish their Church !!!!!! P.S. There was no New Testament in the very early Church. The Church Father's collected and preserved them. They are why YOU have a New Testament today, silly.
@@RonaldTolar-pg8uh actually, what's clear in that those you all deem 'fathers' (see Matt 23:9) aren't really so. why not follow Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul and Peter?
see Isaiah 8:20
@tony1685 We do, Silly. The Church Father's collected, preserved their writings, and Canonized the New Testament, silly. Who are your teachers ?????.
True that pastor jim you clearly outlined what God says not what humans say. God will truly reveal His truths to everyone and in the end we will all say all your ways are just. Well said Jim clearly understood
Praise God!
No ways bafo, the Bible is very clear, Christ is the end of the law.
@dlaminiandre9012 please explain
@gtiggsmusicstudent
Well, it's very clear in the new testament that we don't need the law but Jesus.
@dlaminiandre9012 well I cannot put it any better than what I heard here. You have explained what I can go by. Please explain further with evidence from the New Testament maybe that may help my understanding of your point.
The last closing statement made me cry. Praise be to God.
DEAREST , HELLO . THIS IS ADDRESS TO : " ALL THE SUNDAY KEEPERS " . READ , FROM " THE KING JAMES VERSION HOLY BIBLE "
READ : ISAIAH 29 : 13 ; MATTHEW 7 : 23 ; JOHN 15 : 15 ; MATTHEW 5 : 19 - 20 . PROVE TO ME , FROM THE HOLY BIBLE , THAT READS , " REMEMBER SUNDAY OR THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK AS A HOLY DAY " . FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK , SUNDAY , IS NEVER EVER A HOLY DAY , ONLY THE SABBATH , SATURDAY . THIS MAN WHO IS TALKING ABOUT THE SABBATH AS A SHADOW IS , THE LEAST IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD .
@@CynthiaRothschildyour problem you think that those who worship on Sunday observes Sunday like what you do in sabbath,we don't worship in the day but IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH meaning in Christ Jesus who's the Spirit and Truth
@@thembandlovu3344You will still make every excuse and justifications and still not keep the Sabbath as commanded by God.
@t1910j It was also God who commanded Israel to be circumcised and keep ALL other laws and ALL those laws were nailed in the cross by Jesus Christ,don't act as if God commanded only sabbath or ten commandments,it is Ellen G white who taught you so not God,I once observed sabbath and during those days I was dead in my sins just like what every SDA is today,the day will definitely come where you are going to understand this(THE DAY THAT LORD WILL SEPERATE YOUR SPIRIT FROM FLESH) unfortunately it will be too late to repent,if you think I'm bluffing WAIT & SEE.
@@thembandlovu3344 Correct! God told Abraham and his descendants to be circumcised. However we are spiritual Israelites and circumcision of the heart is required under the new covenant. Let’s be clear also about one important fact that you are also misunderstanding, the Sabbath was not established for Israelites when the Ten Commandments were given but has always I insist ALWAYS been there since creation. God created the earth and rested on the seventh day and blessed it. It is His holy day(not yours to change or disregard) and we are required to keep it the way He set it as a commemoration that He is the creator. God interested us to always keep it and by the way it is a fact that it will be kept in heaven i.e life after earth. Oh and none of these facts I have just stated to you have I gotten from Ellen G White. Just plain truth from the Bible.
I believe in still observing Shabat, thank you Jim Staley for defending God’s law 🙏
I love how Jim gets him with his own words and he stumbles:) about Israel 🇮🇱 ❤
Certainly seems Chris caught him on Jim's own words. Jim eve serms to take notice during the cross questionings to " make it 5 mins and not 10 mins".!!
Pastor Jim very well said and complete. Thank you for helping and teaching us. God bless you more and your family.
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@@kac0404 quote---The Ten Commandments, which included Sabbath keeping, was done away with. (Romans 7:4-6) --unquote
What does Romans Chapter 7 4 mean?
He has written that one who has died is no longer bound by the law, just as a woman whose husband has died is no longer bound by that marriage. She is free to marry a new husband. Paul now writes that Christians are the ones who have died, freeing us from our responsibility to the law of Moses.
>>>>Since you imply ALL the ten Commandments were done away with, that means we ALL can steal, murder, etc with NO consequences from God!!! Right????
I'll be sure to tell the judge that.
@@kac0404 quote---I love how you added the word "responsibility" to that scripture. That's not what the Bible says.
But now we are DELIVERED FROM THE LAW, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Romans 7:6 KJV
See how you add and make up words and things to fit your false narrative? It says nothing about the responsibility of the law. It says the law...PERIOD! That's just sad, man!!!!--unquote
And that is a LIE__Bearing false wirnes against thy neighbor
OBVIOUSLY you mis-read my quote!!!
Romans 7:6 NKJV
But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.
As far me and my house I will fallow the Lord🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
Have you been baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ, as we are commanded in acts 2:38 10:48
Acts 19:5 KJV
[5] When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Were you sprinkled or submerged? We are buried with him. You need to be submerged in the Name all power is in the Name. No other name among men whereby we must be saved.
Acts 8:38-39 KJV
[38] And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. [39] And when they were come up out of the water,
Let no one stop 🛑 you Joel 3 says he is coming for the scattered ones of Israel who they have scattered among the nations so be careful isiah 16 19 gentiles will say our fathers have inherited lies
@@mattwilliam3410 this acts 19 was in that dispensation this has past. We hav entered a new This is now the time for the second exodus for the children of Israel he that is filthy let him be , he that is holy be so still this is isreal time
@hannahbowers1469 The scripture doesn't support your doctrine. The doctrine of Baptism doesn't stop until the great white throne judgment.
@@mattwilliam3410 I have not deny baptism even my forefathers were baptized under the cloud in the red s EA when returning the second exodus we will be baptism again I will sprinkle the water of baptism Israel , crossing the yadan .Our Messiah was also baptise
Very clear that the Sabbath is still important.
Praise God!
How do you explain this verse then? “Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ” (Colossians 2:16-17)
@nat turner Yeshua for sure! But when He said that did He mean that it was no longer valid? Wasn’t He the Lord of the Sabbath from the very beginning when He instituted it in the garden? Does being lord over something mean it’s no longer valid? He is also lord over the rest of the Ten Commandments. Does that mean He doesn’t expect us to keep them too? The context of him saying that was the Pharisees were misinterpreting the application of the sabbath and they had changed the original meaning from when he wrote it. Yeshua is saying that HE wrote it and HE is the master of it, not them. If He came to change the day of the sabbath then He cannot be the Messiah because He also said in Mt. 5:17-21 that “not one jot or tittle would pass from the law until heaven and earth pass away.” If the number 4 commandment is now passed away then his statement in Mt. 5 is untrue. And if it’s untrue then he lied. And if he lied then he can’t be the messiah. The Sabbath was made for man and is one of the BIGGEST blessings he ever gave. Certainly we are not to believe He took that away from us when He said he made it for us and meant for us to keep it forever before man even sinned. If Adam doesn’t sin we are keeping the sabbath and there would be no debate. Besides, why on earth would we not want to rest and enter into something that was specifically made for us!
@@inchristalone25 the religious Jews were judging Paul’s new converts for the WAY they were keeping the sabbath and the feast days. They were not keeping it like the Pharisees that were riddled with traditions. The gnostic jews were stuck in tradition and killing the simple meaning behind many of the commandments. Paul’s not warning them against the Jews trying to get them to keep gods commandments. Paul already said in Roman’s 7 that the law is good and keeping it is the very thing he wants to do. He’s against the religious Jews trying to get his converts to keep the TRADITIONS. That’s why he said in verse 8…Colossians 2:8
Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ” and he ends the whole chapter saying the same thing: 2:20 “Therefore, if you died with Christ from the basic principles of the WORLD, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to regulations- “Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle,” which all concern things which perish with the using-according to the commandments and doctrines of MEN?” it’s commandments of MEN they were pushing. Not the commandments of God. Unfortunately, because all of this have been taught that the sabbath has been done away with we read right into scriptures like this what we already believe instead of letting the text tell us exactly what it saying.
Your not very clear about it. God rested from the 6 days of creation "work" on the 7th day. I don't see where the Bible says He rested or made Holy EVERY seventh day until he gave the commandments to Moses for the Children of Israel.
I also do not find anywhere in the Bible that He gave those commandments (including Sabbath) to anyone EXCEPT those who were there with Moses and had been led out of slavery.
Jim's Debate! Wow ! Hands down Victory in Following Yeshua !
Praise God!
I disagree. Chris only had the best exegesis
Hand up when hands are down your are losses lift up
The Hebrew were told Hebrew 12:12 to lift up the hands I know that you are gentiles no law for you
Lift hands in victory
I love this verse: "Great peace have they which love Thy law: And nothing shall offend them." Ps. 119:165 🌺🌿🌺
Why Martin Luther didn't observeSabbath?
@@chucksmith4624 quote--2. Luther teaches that that the weekly Sabbath is included in the Law of Moses, contrary to the Ellen G white and the Adventist Church. --unquote
Obviously Luther did NOT read the Bible.
The Law of Moses--Given to the JEWS!!!! Written in a book in pencil, by Moses.. Spoken by God.-- Kept in a pocket OUTSIDE the Ark.
The Moral Laws of God--The Ten Commandments---- Spoken by God. Written with HIS finger IN STONE!!
Kept INSIDE the Ark!!!
---The Law of Moses
In regard to the book of the law or Moses’ law (Deuteronomy 29:21; 30:10) , the Lord commanded Moses saying, “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there as a witness against you” (Deut. 31:26).
Jewish commentators are in disagreement in their views regarding the above verse. Some claim that the written scroll that contained Moses’ Law was placed inside the ark with the two tables of stone (Ten Commandments), others, say that it was put outside the Ark in a compartment formed at the right side held by a bulging board.
But the clear statement in the Scripture that says, “there was nothing in the ark save the two tables which Moses put therein at Horeb” according to 2 Chron. 5:10 and also 1 Kings 8:9, clearly affirms that Moses’ law was placed outside the Ark of the Covenant. The Revised Standard version confirms this view in its translation that says, “by the side of the ark” (Deut. 31:26).
The Law of Moses ended at the cross.
The Mosaic Laws that pointed to Christ’s ministry and death (the priesthood, sacrifices, rituals, meat and drink offerings, etc.) were temporary as they foreshadowed the cross. When Christ died, they came to an end. Because of sin, Moses’ law was given (or “added” Galatians 3:16, 19) till Christ should come and die. The yearly or annual feasts (which were also called sabbaths) or holidays of Leviticus 23 were nailed to the Cross (Colossians 2:16).
The moral Law of God remains
God’s Law has existed at least as long as sin has existed (Romans 4:15). When people sin they break God’s moral law (1 John 3:4). Unlike the Mosaic law, the Ten Commandments (God’s law) “stand fast for ever and ever” and therefore, are binding today (Psalms 111:8). And the weekly seventh-day Sabbath of the fourth commandment remains in effect (Matthew 5:17,18; Luke 16:17; Romans 7:12; Hebrews 4:9…etc.).
Paul confirms that God’s Moral Law is still in effect: “What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, thou shalt not covet” (Romans 7:7); “Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law?” (Romans 3:31)
MOSES’ LAW
Called “the law of Moses” (Luke 2:22).
Called “law … contained in ordinances” (Ephesians 2:15).
Written by Moses in a book (2 Chronicles 35:12).
Placed outside the ark (Deuteronomy 31:26).
Ended at the cross (Ephesians 2:15).
Added because of sin (Galatians 3:19).
Contrary to us, against us (Colossians 2:14).
Judges no one (Colossians 2:14-16).
Carnal (Hebrews 7:16).
GOD’S LAW
Called “the law of the Lord” (Isaiah 5:24).
Called Ten Commandments-”the royal law” (James 2:8).
Written by God on stone (Exodus 31:18; 32:16).
Placed inside the ark (Exodus 40:20).
Will stand forever (Luke 16:17).
Points out sin (Romans 7:7; 3:20).
Not grievous (1 John 5:3).
Judges all people (James 2:10-12).
Spiritual (Romans 7:14).
Perfect (Psalms 19:7).
Thus, we can conclude that the Ten Commandments that were written upon the two tables of stone were of such an important nature as to place them in a separate and distinct class by themselves- inside the Ark while Moses’ Law was placed outside the Ark.
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@@mitchellosmer1293 thank you for a thorough and meticulous explanation! Glory to God!
@@josephkoma3529 Martin Luther as far as I know, lived up to all the knowledge of the truth he had in his time. Apparently he had not understood the Sabbath truth, like many others. Very soon though, this truth will have come full circle as it was first instituted in Eden, for eventually the entire world will have to make a stand, for God or man; for God's Sabbath or man's Sunday. The Sabbath, which was never disannulled at the cross, will again be made clear to the world. "And this gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in ALL the world for a witness unto ALL nations, and then shall the end come." Matt. 24:14
@Joseph Koma and @Chuck Smith, The very fact that these videos are being presented; the fact that @Mitchell Osmer's explanation was so overwhelmingly clear, is a fulfillment of that prophetic verse of Matt. 24:14, so that no one can say they did not hear.
A very interesting debate. At the end of the day each person will have a choice to make , whether to obey and follow God or the church fathers. By God's grace I will follow the truth in God's Word.
Thank you, Pastor Jim for standing up for the truth.
Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second. NIV For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another.
You're are still lying to yourself after a clear evidence
@@OkatahiAmotor The devil is a liar.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
@@OkatahiAmotor you’re of the devil for not believe the truth.
Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks
@@gardysauveur529 Christians that was their business don't interfere in Israel things unless you want to join
Sabbath keeping is the winner for me and my heart.
It's good you say sabbath keeping is the winner for you and your heart, but I want to show you the truth,ACT 15/1, and certain Men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and say except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses (that is after the law of Moses, you cannot be saved) THE apostles who preach the gospel are greater than this debaters, The apostles have written and concluded that the gentiles who through faith believe in Christ should not keep the law of Moses which keeping of the sabbath is included),If you read ACT 21/20to25,verse 20, says and when they heard it they glorified the lord and said unto him,thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe, and they are all zealous of the law, verse 25,speaks on this wise (AS touching the gentiles which believe,We have written and concluded that they observe no such thing save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols and from blood and from strangled and from fornication ) Lastly 2john1/9 says that whosoever transgresseth and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ hath not God,He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ,he hath both the father and the son ,, Best from the lord Jesus Christ,.
@@dedeukwu4194 ......The reason why God died on the cross, was to forgive the sin of men, and the obedience of the Ten Commandments is to prevent us from committing more sins.
So in my heart I feel that I would be hypocritical to thank Jesus for his death on the cross and at the same time continue to participate in sin by breaking any of the 10 commandments.
Blessings.
@@elpatriotamexicano thank you and may God bless you
Not that keeping the Sabbath grants us salvation. That is only achieved by accepting the saving grace thru faith that is Jesus Christ. Not by his works, but by sacrifice for without sacrifice there is NO forgiveness of sin. Therefore once we accept Jesus we are covered by His righteousness bc Jesus is the door into the sanctuary and it is He that is our advocate to God. Then we have sacrifice, we sacrifice our old self and bc we have confessed our sins over the Lamb of God that died once that all MIGHT be saved;(You first have to accept. Otherwise there is no coverage of grace) you are forgiven. Afterwards is the lavor the cleansing the justification. Then we walk in the doctrine of Christ seeking always to be sanctified by obedience to His law bc it is a law of liberty sets us free from sin and once we obtain that thru our walk with Jesus who is the holy we are cleansed and sanctified blood and sacrificed and once we are sanctified whether we live or die on this earth we will be allowed into the most holy the inner sanctuary that is in the presence of God. It is the entire sanctuary message even though I may not have worded it all with proper English
Follow your heart
Thanks for being respectful to each other-helps nonBelievers see Christ in us.
To Shabbat is absolutely wonderful! While I have had a long journey in my faith- the days since I’ve begun to honor Father through resting on His appointed day have been so blessed.
It’s as if He understands the way our body, mind and spirit functions best. 😮😊
Let’s keep worshipping Yeshua every day in church and in our homes May the Shalom of Yeshua rest upon us oll Shalom
Amen as long as it is on Gods Sabbath. The one written in stone by Gods own finger to last throughout the ages until the end of time and not the 1st day of the week which is the Pagan worship of the Sun and not the Son of God.
Seven day is the Sabbath, Sunday is the first day of the week. Amen. South Africa.
Every scholar knows that, Happy Sabbath brother.
We also keep the Sabbath of the Word of God. May Christ bless us here in SA🙏
Silly , there were no man made Calenders at Creation ike St.Paul told you. The Point ?? Pick a Calender day in what ever Calender a Nation uses and Honor it as the Sabbath. Remember, "" The Sabbath was made for Man, not Man for the Sabbath.""
@@RonaldTolar-pg8uhquote---Silly , there were no man made Calenders around on the 7th day of Creation.--unquote
Why would anyone need a man-made calendar when they had GOD????
And, apparently you believe NO ONE could count to 7!! Including God!!!
@@Rileyed quote---"The sabbath is kept in the contented heart"
Discontent --> atheism and apostasy.--unquote
Apostasy--the CC.
Repent and honour God's Sabbath day. The Sabbath is to be kept...it will be kept in heaven. I look forward every week for the Sabbath.
Thank You,Yahweh, for this debate that has thrown so much light into my mind concerning Sabbath 🙏❤️
How so?
And once we taste of Shabbat......it will change our lives!
@@pamstaley24 the sabbath is the Lord God's rest He said. That rest today must end with the secret place. (Ps.91:1,15.) It says so right here. Do you see it? (Isa.28:9-13.) The double rests is from the curse of the fall and of the law. Its hard to see if you are not there. How do you read these?
Your life is about to change!! It's the beginning or alignment with real truths of the kingdom.
@@avoiceofpeace yeah rite! You're speaking of Peace in the world the lord said during these times is false because there is no peace
One of the best TH-cam's transmissions I ever enjoyed. So thanks to those who developed and keeping it updated TH-cam.
This debate was in The U.S.A. in a nation the declare itself "In God We Trust". If so why is this nation at war in the ENTIRE world? "God Is Love"if so does "Trust" has a leniency when using Commandment "Love your enemies".
So glad I found your channel!! Really woke me up after being in the Catholic Church for so long. I always questioned the church and then when I actually read the Bible MYSELF and didn’t count on a bs preacher to tell me what tradition tells people to believe, I really had an eye opener. This is Satan’s world and he’s the greatest deceiver. Thank you Jim!!
This is God's created world, He is the only creator. Let us not us be deceived that this is Satan's world and denies God's possession of the earth. We allowed ourselves to be deceived by Satan and allowed his sinful ways in our lives in this world on earth. But in as far as God is the Creator, this world is subject to His judgment not Satan.
There might be a confusion in the terms between earth and world as one. We established our world or our human ways on earth to the point that our ways dispossessed God of His possession of the earth. But this is God's, Lev. 25:23. We have to recognize it.
Amen
@@eduardobaltazar4700 Corinthians 4:4
4 Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.
He’s the greatest deceiver and that’s why people follow the churches and all different religions instead of reading and studying Scripture! I agree with you it’s Adonai’s created world, but there are so many people being blinded because of things like this
Sabbath is Holly and our Almighty God blessed it.
GOD Bless you Pastor Jim
Thank Pastor Jim i didn't know much about the Sabbath may God bless you
I believe the Sabbath is not a debated topic. Everyone with understanding can read that in the Bible. If you do not have understanding then, ask the Lord and He will give it in abundance. God bless you all.
How do you explain this verse then? “Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ” (Colossians 2:16-17)
@@inchristalone25 Remember that Christ himself kept the Sabbath. Luke 4:16; Mark 6:2. Remember what he also said in Matthew 5:17-20. Remember what it says in the book of Isaiah: 66:23.
@@ralphquintero3350 Of course he kept the Sabbath PERFECTLY, because he was the only perfect spotless lamb that could keep all the laws perfectly so that he could FULFILL them. That doesn't mean the laws are abolished, no but he showed how it's not about following rules, it's about the heart (of which all the religious leaders had evil hearts despite their rule following) we still keep to all moral laws which is now written on our heart.
@@inchristalone25That is easy. If you understand what meat offerings were, or drink offerings were, then you would not need ask such a question.
True Christians who reads the Bible and truthful wants to obey God will keep the Sabbath ❤. There should be no debate about it
The truth is the truth and it will make us Free. Halleluyah!
Bless you Jim. Stand for holiness
I love Jesus and keep the Sabbath
That is a strange thing to boast.
2 Corinthians 11:30
If I must boast, I will boast of the things that show my weakness.
@metathoughts732 Romans 1:9 God, whom I serve in my spirit in preaching the gospel of his Son, is my witness how constantly I remember you
10 in my prayers at all times; and I pray that now at last by God’s will the way may be opened for me to come to you.
11 I long to see you so that I may impart to you some spiritual gift to make you strong-
Paul boasting of him preaching, serving Jesus, and imparting spiritual gifts. Paul boasts a lot. I did this and I did that and I do these things.
King David said I praise God, etc.
I think it is strange to not give examples of what you do and to give YaHUaH all the glory for it. The humbleness comes by giving God all glory. Just saying I accepted Christ, I got baotised, I preached, I went to church, I testified, I pray, I glorify God, I repented, I did this, and do that is all boasting?
That is what is strange. Reread the Bible and find everytime, people told what they do. The person above simply stated she loves Jesus and keep the Sabbaths.
I don't believe in Jesus, I only believe the Hebrew Bible, not the Greek one. Human sacrifice and atonement is way of the heathen. Jesus is fake Greek plant. YaHUaH says every human must pay for his own sin. Brainwashed into believing human sacrifice is holy. YaHUaH is the Name of Elohim, not Jesus (Yeshua, Yahushua, Joshua, etc.....). The Greek Bible was written by Greeks, not any Jews because no Jew or ex-Jew would ever write antisemitic writings as the Greeks wrote. Book of Hebrews says Moses took blood and hyssop branch and sprinkled the tabernacle and all vessels of ministry with blood. Moses would never do such ungodly thing. Never make unkosher vessels by making them bloody. It is no where in the Hebrew Bible. Greek idiots. I HATE Christianity with Passion. It is idolatry, the worship of a human. Demons aren't real and neither is Lucifer. If they were real, they would steal everything from all humans, they'd steal everything out of your bank and destroy your home. The Hebrew Bible is the truth mostly, it has some false things in it by lieing scribes. Jeremiah 8:8 says it... behold the pen of the lieing scribes.... God has the verbal final say. He never accept any human blood to atone for any sin for it is truly way of the heathen. Sabbath keeping is a fact of truth.
He (Christ) said if you love me keep my commandments. The first (to break) is lying or bearing false witness. Did you actually repent of your sins like you said when you received him? Then why call him Lord and do not what he say?
@@ddmound Jesus is fake. God's Name isn't Jesus, Yeshua, nor YaHUshua. His Name is YaHUaH and is one, not three, nor trinity. YaHUaH is the only Elohim. You don't need any human to get to God. Joel 2:32 doesn't say to call on name of Yeshua but the Name of YaHUaH for Almighty Deliverance from all sinning. YaHUaH alone is Savior and doesn't do heathen human sacrifice, only animals. Greek Catholic priests decieved billions. The Hebrew Bible promises salvation to those who call on the Name of YaHUaH. So no need for name of Jesus who is a supposed heathen human sacrifice. Jesus blood didn't atone anyone's sins. If you repent, you won't have to deal with the confusion of Greek Bible anymore. Learn Biblical Hebrew. "We aren't under the law but under grace." "Sin is lawlessness". We obey the law of God in Christ". "We say and conclude the gentile believers observe no such thing but to abstain from blood, from things strangled, from idol sacrifice foods, and from fornication". "All things are clean to eat". Oh, but things strangled foid is unclean? Ahhhhhh what does that mean daaah. Yeah hardcore confusion. The Greek Bible also says Moses took blood and hyssop and sprinkled the tabernacle, altar and all vessels of ministry. Blood makes vessels of ministry unkosher. Moses never sprinkled any vessel if ministry as Greek Bible says. Also Isaiah 7 in Hebrew doesnt say he shall be born of virgin but young lady. Learn Hebrew.
@@ddmound
1. Are your suggesting that you cannot be saved unless you keep the Sabbath? Well then no one is saved.
2. "This is my commandment, that you love one another". Jesus in John 15:12.
I love it when you search the context of a Bible passage and see what Jesus said about His commandments. Jesus tells us exactly what he meant by keeping his commandments.
Thank you pastor Jim ,preach to him he's confusion the world
Is pastor Jim out of prison now or was this done before he went to prison?
Jim you are a man after my own heart God loves you for standing up for the truth ❤️ Don't givei to this faults belief it's a command from your Holy God bless you Jim Amen thank you Lord Jesus 😂❤🎉
I grew up a Sunday worshipper but so glad my eyes have been opened to the true Sabbath, Saturday. The sabbath is a gift from God. If He rested we certainly should as He commands. I try to honor this day apart from all others and its sometimes challenging as I get called into work or have the common distractions of TV or my smart phone. I feel so close to God when I keep it
Amen!
the true Sabath-rest is being in Christ, or trusting in the work of Christ for our salvation, as Chris Rosebrough said in his closing statement (1:44:00)
All my life, I've been a Sunday worshipper, debating about whether or not to keep sabbath is actually of no importance the last time I checked. God is not limited to days nor are His abilities limited to only sabbaths, I was brought up in a church where God's divine power was incomparable and it's always on Sunday. God wants us to stop sinning and to treat everyday holy that's how Christ lived
That's wonderful news! But you know there's nothing wrong with going to church or worshipping Sunday or any other day God never gets tried of being recognized worshipped and loved! Can you blame Them? 😊🙏🙏🙏❣️
@@jesussaves6575
James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all"
Relistened to this.....such a good exchange...well done Jim!
Friday sundown to Saturday sundown is the Sabbath (shabbat)
Sundown to sundown isn’t biblical except for 2 particular sabbath observances in the Bible. Did the first day in genesis begin with darkness? No; it began with light.
no, cant be because named days is made up and out of sync with the moon.
@@Isaiah-ft5nx Can u give me the 2 verses to look at. I would like to look up. Thanks
@@Isaiah-ft5nx evening and the morning was the first day etc. Check Genesis 1. From Sun down to sun down is a day. Not morning to night. The Sabbath begins from Friday sundown to Saturday sundown
@@derrickatkinson7277 Yahuah created during the daylight hours, then it was evening and morning, the 1st day complete. When morning came, the 2nd day of creation began. Then it was evening and morning again, the 2nd day complete. Etc...He didn't even create the Sun and Moon and stars until the 4th day.
The 1st thing He said was let there be light. He is the light. He created in the light.
The lunar calander is Babylonian. It is NOT Yahuahs calander. The entire Bible narrative of Yahuahs calander begins the day at sunrise to sunrise.
Yes "the jews" keep the Babylonian calander but you have to learn who "the Jews" really are to understand why they do. They are the SINofGOG of Satan that say they are Yahudim and ARE NOT but do lie. Yahusha told us so and rebuked them every encounter He had with them. AND these are the same ppl "the church" whether Catholic or Protestant listen to and get understanding of doctrine from.
Go watch
The God Culture
They'll lay it all out for you
thanks Jim Staley I am full satisfied with you about Sabbath keeping
Congratulations! Pastor Staley, Without question,you have won this debate. You have presented the Truth of God's Word with clarity, and to the point.May God
bless you,and your family tremendously.
May He keep you steadfast,and unmoveable,as you continue to defend the truth of His Word.
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Praise Yah!
The Sabbath is indeed a blessing and nothing with ever subtitute a day that GOD blessed and sanctified from the get go
The 7th day Sabbath was declared before the sin came into the world and before the law.
Great message and education pastor Jim, this is light. It was never so clear. God bless.
Yes am in agreement with you, God had to repeat the commandments on mount Sini for the children forget it, while they were taken as slave into Egypt.
@@ladyu.p4268 It does not say in the Bible that the children forgot it (the commandments) so He had to remind them at Sinai. Are you adding to the Word of God?
@@carnduffagc5155The Bible didn't mention that Children of Israel forgot the Sabbath, No. But the 4th Commandment in Exodus 20:8 says 'REMEMBER' the Sabbath day to keep it Holy... You see, God knows that the children on Israel will forget, there will be confusion between which day to worship, therefore he emphasized the word 'Remember' so the children of Israel and the generations to come will know that, we must obey God's law. These laws guide us to live a godly life on this earth and for the Heavenly kingdom to come. For we will worship God on the 7th day, the Sabbath day in Heaven.
@@roselynyore7344 .... yes, so true;
And the fact that so many Christians today Keep Sunday instead of His Sabbath, shows that the word: "Remember" is more pertinent than ever!
God is Love!
As a newer Christian who was just baptized Easter 2024. I’ve been hugged by Jesus twice now. He has shown me yes he wants us to keep the sabbath (Saturday) but he does understand that where we are in this world more often than not a father/mother must work to support their families.
Jesus healed the blind man on the sabbath and said if you must work on the sabbath make sure it’s for the right reasons.
That being said … my children are getting older and I’m going to downsize and get out of the debt I currently carry and my journey will ultimately end up in me observing the sabbath to honor my king because I love him. But that won’t be held against me
What an amazing testimony! HalleluYah! Blessings to you and you're family. Lisa - PFT Team.
The Sunday pastor just used humor to win the crowd while the Sabbath pastor had facts .
Oh yeah..He made it clear in his preamble that the bible alone could not be used to prove his stance...
Perfect summary and conclusion in one sentence!!!
If the Bible alone was not enough to prove anything, then what else does he want to refer to, Harry Potter?
What humour? He neither won the crowd nor the debate.
Whereby cunning craftiness they lie and deceive.
The Sabbath is to be a delight, don't miss out! The one command that starts with Remember, Christians tell you to forget. Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy and even the STRANGER in they gate. The Sabbath is all inclusive.
No man made Calenders were around at Creation. If a country wants a Sabbath, work 6 days, and honor the 7th day, If your teachers think that our Calendar in use today was around at Creation, they are goofs. 🤣🤣 lol . In the West we generally work Mon - Sat ( 6 days ), rest the 7th ( Sun ). The Jewish calendar wasn't around at Creation either !
@@RonaldTolar-pg8uh quote---No man made Calenders were around at Creation. If a country wants a Sabbath, work 6 days, and honor the 7th day, If your teachers think that our Calendar in use today was around at Creation, they are goofs. 🤣🤣 lol . In the West we generally work Mon - Sat ( 6 days ), rest the 7th ( Sun ). The Jewish calendar wasn't around at Creation either ! unquote
That implies that GOD is stupid and can't count to 7.
Also implies with ONLY two people on earth they can't count to 7!!!
@mitchellosmer1293 No, it implies you are dishonest. The commandment ""Remember the Sabbath....."" wasn't instituted untill Moses, thousands of years later. Honoring the Creator and his creation is a very good and right thing! Sabbath = Work six days, and honor God and Rest on the 7th Calender day. If you think the earliest humans started Calenders immediated you are very, very, dishonest in your thought processes.
@mitchellosmer1293 Implies that God is Stupid ??????? No, no, no, it implies that your teachers are stupid. What are you 16 years old ????
@@RonaldTolar-pg8uh Sabbath was actually established since Creation - Gen 2:2-3
and we need not worry about any calendar, we have the weekly cycle which was never hindered. all we need to do is look to Christ, 2,000 years back - He kept the 7th day and so too do Christians.
interestingly, the Bible does prophesy a nasty system which would tamper with It.
the 'church' which did so, they freely and openly admit to this. and sadly, most just don't get it still.
I believe we should be keeping the sabbath the right day as I will moving forward. Glory to God ✝️🙏💟
"keeping the sabbath the right day"
Sabbath means rest. So you must rest the RIGHT DAY? I say this because people confuse rest day as worship and turn around and violate commandment #24 of Torah all in a day.
@@terrygreenman1540 quote----I say this because people confuse rest day as worship and turn around and violate commandment #24 of Torah all in a day.--unquote WHAT is Commandment #24???????
@@mitchellosmer1293 I used to have a book but I lost my mini library long time ago. But here is the name of this book that has all 613 commandments and where they are found in the Bible or Torah and there is a commentary on every one of them.
The Book is called BIBLICAL LITERACY By Rabbi Joseph Telushkin. I strongly recommend this book. I am for certain it can be gotten from Amazon.
You asked what is the 24th commandment in Torah. It is found in Exodus 16:29.
Here is how the Bible says to "keep the Sabbath":
1. You must be living between the time when the Sabbath was given (Exodus 16) at the beginning of (and as the sign of) the Old Covenant (between God and Israel), and the Cross, when the entire Old Covenant, including its sign (the Sabbath), was fulfilled in Christ and became obsolete (Colossians 2:14-17, Hebrews 8:6-13, Galatians 4, 2 Corinthians 3).
2. In order to be eligible to keep the Sabbath, you must be an Israelite, a servant of an Israelite, or a stranger staying with an Israelite. Gentiles were not allowed to keep the Sabbath, as it was a special sign between God and Israel to "sanctify them," or set them apart from the Gentiles (Exodus 31:12-17).
3. You must not cook food on the Sabbath day (Exodus 16:23).
4. You must not leave your place (Exodus 16:29).
5. You must not do ANY work, and you must not let your wife, sons, daughters, servants, animals, or visitors do ANY work (Exodus 20:10, Deuteronomy 5:14).
6. You must not kindle a fire (Exodus 35:3).
7. You must not buy or sell anything (Nehemiah 13, Amos 8:5).
8. You must not carry a load (Jeremiah 17).
9. Whoever violates the Sabbath must be put to death (Exodus 31:14-15).
You wanna keep the Sabbath then stay at home.. you violate it by leaving your home Exodus 13:14-15 on you..simple as that...and it isn't very forgiving.
@@terrygreenman1540 quote---1. You must be living between the time when the Sabbath was given (Exodus 16) at the beginning of (and as the sign of) the Old Covenant (between God and Israel), and the Cross, when the entire Old Covenant, including its sign (the Sabbath), was fulfilled in Christ and became obsolete (Colossians 2:14-17, Hebrews 8:6-13, Galatians 4, 2 Corinthians 3).--unquote
Col 2:14-17 blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; and having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Sabbath IS NOT AN ORDINANCE!!! IT IS A MORAL LAW OF GOD!!!
(What is an ordinance from God?
In the Church, an ordinance is a sacred, formal act or ceremony performed by the authority of the priesthood. Some ordinances are essential to our exaltation. They include baptism, confirmation, ordination to the Melchizedek Priesthood (for men), the temple endowment, and the marriage sealing.) NOTHING about the weekly Sabbath!!!!
---quote----Hebrews 8:6-13 that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away. THe promises He made to Israel---
Hebrews 8:6-13 -
I will put my laws in their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. ... or say to each other, “Know the Lord” ...HIS LAWS__TEN Commandments!!!
---quote-2. In order to be eligible to keep the Sabbath, you must be an Israelite, a servant of an Israelite, or a stranger staying with an Israelite. Gentiles were not allowed to keep the Sabbath, as it was a special sign between God and Israel to "sanctify them," or set them apart from the Gentiles (Exodus 31:12-17).--unquote
--Really??? Then why does Jesus say: - Jesus concludes, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath” (Mark 2:27-28).
ORIGINAL HEBREW: “The Sabbath was made for THE man, not THE man for the Sabbath.Who is "THE MAN"? ADAM!!!! LONG BEFORE ANY JEWS!!!! over 3000 years before!!!
---quote---3. You must not cook food on the Sabbath day (Exodus 16:23). unquote
NO Sabbath keeper does that. That IS what Preparation day (friday) is for!!
--quote---4. You must not leave your place (Exodus 16:29). unquote
Nope--that was a DIRECT order , FROM GOD,TO ISAREL!!! Tell me, just how would anyone get to the church on Sabbath??? Sleep in the church ???
How far was a Jew allowed to travel on the Sabbath?
2,000 cubits
A Jew was permitted to travel 2,000 cubits on the Sabbath (Exod. 16: 29 and Num. 35: 5), about 1.2 km. (¾ mile), and the Mount of Olives was within this distance from Jerusalem (Acts 1: 12).
---quote---5. You must not do ANY work, and you must not let your wife, sons, daughters, servants, animals, or visitors do ANY work (Exodus 20:10, Deuteronomy 5:14).-unquote
ALL Sabbath keeper do that anyway!!! Tell me, a family lives in the back country witha small wood stove to keep warm. That stove MUST be filled every 4 hours. Is that man supposed to allow that fire to go out so his familt freezes??? btw--Apparently you can nor feed your animals. That is NOT what God says.
---quote---6. You must not kindle a fire (Exodus 35:3).--unquote
OBVIOUSLY you have NEVER lived in the country with a wood stove!!!
To kindle-----to chop/cut wood into small pieces to start a fire.
---quote---8. You must not carry a load (Jeremiah 17).--unquote
So, Jesus made the man disobey the Sabbath by telling him to carry his mat after being healed??
Pick up your mat and walk." ... Jesus said to him, “Stand up, take your mat and walk.” ... Jesus said to him, "Arise, take up your mat, and walk."
Had Jesus disobeyed the Sabbath , that WAS punishable by death!!! be stoned!!!
---quote---9. Whoever violates the Sabbath must be put to death (Exodus 31:14-15).--unquote
That was the Levitical laws--Given to Israel by God!!!
NOT to all humankind!!! What about the Commandment: Ex 20:13?? Thou shalt NOT murder!!!
----quote---You wanna keep the Sabbath then stay at home.. you violate it by leaving your home Exodus 13:14-15 on you..simple as that...and it isn't very forgiving.--unquote
you are so full of BS and IGNORANT of the Holy BIBLE!!!
Thank you for this debate. I really believe that the holy day is the Sabbath. If we break one command, we are against the God’s law. So we must follow as what God intended to do. Follow God and not men. Thank you.
This is what gets me messed up when someone says, "if we break one command, we are against God's Law". It is impossible for man to follow God's Leviticus Law. No one can follow the Law, that is the sole reason Jesus died on the cross so we would not have to do sacrifices nor follow a Law that we can't follow. If we violate just one little law, we are guilty of violating all of it and deserve Hell. I know Leviticus, says for us to keep the Sabbath forever but then when Christ died and the veil in the Temple was torn from the top to the bottom also told me that no more sacrifice is needed and I don't need a mediator between God and me and that we have a new Covenant. I have been a Christian for over 50 years and I will humble myself to say I studied this myself and I have no answer. I have no choice but to have faith that Jesus grants me Grace to have Salvation and to forgive me of any errors I have made because of my ignorance. I get comfort this way and I believe I will receive Grace and not be condemned either way.
Pastor Jim I appreciate your defense of the Sabbath . And I will be please to Add that Jesus Christ said do not think I came to destroy the law and the prophets I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. Mth 5vs17.
And he adds how to fulfill the law;Mathew7:12 Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets. (As you can see here, the sabbath is not in the equation). The new Law is Love, which is the natural law in the 10commandments. As mentioned in Mathew 19:16-20.
Pastor Chris, you have quoted church fathers, other, and some out of context Bible verses. This does not prove Sunday is the Sabbath! Do you not think God would let his people know if He was changing the day He sanctified to something else (Sunday) Amos 3:7 God does nothing without revealing his secrets to his prophets. You are gonna be responsible for all the people you are deceiving. 😢 Shame😢
Mathew 17:16 Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good[d] Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”
17 So He said to him, [e]“Why do you call Me good? [f]No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”18 He said to Him, “Which ones?”
Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19 ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”
20 The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [g]from my youth. What do I still lack?”
21 Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” (Notice that Jesus teaches only the commandment of love , consistently as written in Mathew 7:12,John15 etc. Even when he wanted the man to be perfect ,it was still love, "' Go sell everything & give the money to the poor"'. I would have expected Jesus to tell this man, "' if you want to be perfect , never break the sabbath!!!!), why is he avoiding this ? Answer: Romans13:8 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. 9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” [b]“You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. Galatians5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: [d]adultery, [e]fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, [f]murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. (Paul keeps forgetting that sabbath keeping is necessary for eternal life?NO he knows the master did not teach that . There is another day , today he adds, in saying today, he is not random but rather is talking about the day of the church , the day of the resurrection. Hebrews 4:6 Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience, 7 again He designates a certain day, saying in David, “Today,” after such a long time, as it has been said:“Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts.”8 For if [b]Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God.