Living with a 2009 Porsche 911 (997.2) Carrera S / Reliability and maintenance cost

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  • On this video, the owner explains the joy of owning a 911. It’s different from all the American V8s he is used to. Watch the video to hear the guy fall in with a flat 6 engine.
    #jionidrive #porsche911 #997.2 #porsche997

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  • @CarYenta
    @CarYenta 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    5:40 it does not have a dry sump. The GT3 and Turbos do, but the Carrera engines have an "integrated dry sump" which is Porsche's way of making you think it has a separate oil reservoir, but it doesn't, just a multi-pickup baffled oil pan to help with high-G cornering. Only one drain plug, no reservoir to drain.

    • @JioniDrive
      @JioniDrive  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @CarYenta, thanks for the info.

  • @990v6
    @990v6 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    997.1 manual carrera 140K miles. Bore scoring is here sadly but not dramatic. Beautiful drive and delivers every day.

    • @JioniDrive
      @JioniDrive  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @990v6, bore scoring kinda scares me. Hopefully you can enjoy it a little longer before you have to take everything apart.

  • @jahblessin3996
    @jahblessin3996 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That cold start is just lovely

  • @starrguitarworks
    @starrguitarworks 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I do a full Liqui Moly oil change with OEM filter and new magnetic drain plug for $150. That’s significantly less. It’s 7.5 liters.

    • @starrguitarworks
      @starrguitarworks 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @lewislevits1193 I’ve only had the car for 6 months and I’ve put less than 3,000 miles on it.

  • @pecks33331
    @pecks33331 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video. I have a 2009, Carrera, PDK, all similar items.

    • @JioniDrive
      @JioniDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @pecks33331, it’s a great car. I had a great time filming it. Keep enjoying yours and thanks for watching.

  • @essel23fly
    @essel23fly 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    You shouldn't be spending more than around 220 bucks for a 997 oil change. It's the easiest oil change you can do. Find an independent Porsche mechanic in your area. I've got a 997.1 and I started saving a lot of money on maintenance once I avoided the high end Porsche mechanics, it's a waste especially for the older models.

    • @netu3493
      @netu3493 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      why would you not do it yourself?

    • @JioniDrive
      @JioniDrive  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @netu3493 I believe the owner wanted the first check up to be from the dealership. The car came with no documents. No service history.

    • @JioniDrive
      @JioniDrive  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @essel23fly, The owner is new to Porsche. He is a Corvette guy. But I’m pretty sure he will find some ways or people to maintain it for less.

    • @wrxpilot
      @wrxpilot 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I understand wanting to be conservative and having a professional work on the car, but I have a 997.2S as well and it is absolutely the easiest car I’ve ever done an oil change on.
      Head over to Rennlist and the 997 forum. Tons of excellent articles for 997 maintenance. Just this year I’ve changed the oil, air filters, hood struts, and cleaned out the radiators (by removing the front bumper). Overall this is a very easy car to work on.
      Good video, I enjoyed it!

    • @JioniDrive
      @JioniDrive  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @wrxpilot, I think the owner will get his hands dirty soon. He has already changed the exhaust. I think he just wanted the dealer to give him a clean bill of health.
      Thank you for watching! I’m glad you found the video enjoyable.

  • @herodtrt5576
    @herodtrt5576 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I just got the exact same year and model (s) without chrono. Can you please advise if PDK service ($1500) is needed? Mine has 41K miles, and 30K dealer service was done by the previous owner. I would appreciate it if you could recommend other services that are 'must'. Yes, first 911, my dream ride😅. Thank you in advance. Subscribed and liked!!!

    • @JioniDrive
      @JioniDrive  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @herodtrt5576, I believe Porsche recommends PDK service at 60k miles or 12 years. If you have a metal pan on the transmission, PDK service could have been done. I believe factory transmission pans are plastic. But I will let 911 people give you advice on this. I personally do not own a 911 yet. Rennthusiast TH-cam channel and Porsche Club of America channel should provide you with all the knowledge you need. Enjoy the car and thanks for watching.

  • @robinsongalaxie500
    @robinsongalaxie500 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your instruments have been either ordered in black or modded. S instruments are white. ( look black at night!)
    I have exact same 2009 Carrera S

    • @robinsongalaxie500
      @robinsongalaxie500 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Btw….I much prefer your black look instruments/gauges - might have to do the same to mine!

  • @rezhaadriantanuharja3389
    @rezhaadriantanuharja3389 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Beautiful car, that backside always does it for me

  • @tokesa2753
    @tokesa2753 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love my 09 997.2 carrera with almost 80k miles. I just replaced my brakes/rotors $2,000, PDK oil change $1,200, and want to get new coilovers although I want to keep my PASM. For mods I have Tubi exhaust, BMC filters, and am waiting for a evomis tune. Next upgrades for me will be headers, coils/springs. I wish my car had the chrono package although I have sport,sport+,pasm, edc

    • @JioniDrive
      @JioniDrive  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @tokesa2753, exhaust and a tune will wake the car up a little. It’s already a fun car. Good luck with the mods and keep enjoying the ride!

    • @Camille-LG
      @Camille-LG 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can keep PASM will Bilstein B16 (plug and play)

  • @bongajewelmsimang5337
    @bongajewelmsimang5337 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    the backtrack music is extremely loud competes with your voice makes the video hard to watch!

    • @JioniDrive
      @JioniDrive  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @bongajewelmsimang5337, thanks for the feedback. When I was editing, it sounded ok but it’s a lesson learned. I appreciate your time and feedback.

    • @beer77monster
      @beer77monster 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don’t watch then…

    • @oliveroconnor9261
      @oliveroconnor9261 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      boo hoo wah wah

    • @Marlon115
      @Marlon115 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah agreed, the background was too loud, making it difficult to hear your narration. Great video, though!!

  • @mikesav9
    @mikesav9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    997.2 cars are most desirable and rare in 6 speed manual. I believe only 20% of cars from 2009 to 2012 came in a manual transmission.

    • @bapi1129
      @bapi1129 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      PDK is brilliant

    • @mikesav9
      @mikesav9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bapi1129 If that's your cup of tea, sure.

    • @N911GT2
      @N911GT2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's because manuals suck and the PDK brings out the best in this car.

    • @tymotorcycle
      @tymotorcycle 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I bought my 997.2 with a PDK since the manual was $10k more where I live in the PNW. Happy with the PDK.

    • @mikesav9
      @mikesav9 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tymotorcycle Amazing car, excellent choice. Enjoy!

  • @ChristianStout
    @ChristianStout 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are brakes/rotors something that can be cheaper if you get the VW-equivalent part (as is the case with Audis) or are they Porsche-specific?

    • @joshheinz5328
      @joshheinz5328 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      To my knowledge, there aren't many parts that interchange between Porsche and the rest of the VW group, at least from their sports cars. I looked around, and found a couple of aftermarket rotors that were cheaper, but also weren't the exact same size. 997.2S front rotors are 330mm x 34mm, and the ones i saw were only 28mm.
      Would it matter? Probably not, but YMMV.

  • @pecks33331
    @pecks33331 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video.

    • @JioniDrive
      @JioniDrive  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the visit

  • @roiemesilati
    @roiemesilati 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you name the exhaust you have? Exactly what parts
    Sounds awesome.

    • @JioniDrive
      @JioniDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @roiemesilati, it’s a Fabspeed X-Pipe exhaust.

  • @Soh90
    @Soh90 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maintenance cost is is line with basically every luxury brand and even some more mainstream brands.

  • @dedwardmalick
    @dedwardmalick 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice car. Enjoy

  • @livelifetogivelife9462
    @livelifetogivelife9462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Someone help me understand…
    I thought in 2009 Porsche changed the block…
    So - No more bore scoring after 08???
    I literally have an article that says 09 and after - no more bore scoring.
    Anyone please ?
    I’m about 12 months from buying a 911 as a pre-retirement gift to self & I never want to think about bs :)

    • @JioniDrive
      @JioniDrive  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @livelifetogivelife9463, It’s a small percentage of owners who have experienced bore scoring. Pre-purchase inspection would be a great investment.

    • @livelifetogivelife9462
      @livelifetogivelife9462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JioniDrive i just want to buy outside of the bs window.

    • @JioniDrive
      @JioniDrive  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Check out this video.
      th-cam.com/video/QWUFja2EhyA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=a2vOyPbntRC9lFKM

    • @livelifetogivelife9462
      @livelifetogivelife9462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JioniDrive
      I watched that before. I appreciate knowledgeable pre purchase inspection. Not into babying anything I own.
      IF the Good Lord allows, I have some time. 964 if I want to tinker, or 991 just to drive and enjoy. Wifey likes the new RC F and believes I should not “plan to tinker” but enjoy the ride and never break down :)
      Nothing wrong with that ideology either. Thanks

    • @warrenlucier5796
      @warrenlucier5796 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Some don't let the engine (MA1/9A1) warmup enough before getting their foot in it and it's not a bore scoring, it's actually cold seizing on one cylinder in most cases. An engine isn't warmed up just because the water temperature gage says it is, as the oil temperature needs to come up also and takes longer; just takes a few miles with an easy foot. This engine is an entirely new design from a clean sheet of paper and I refer to it as Mezger Jr. the son of the Mezger series.

  • @Buffman53
    @Buffman53 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cal City, we are close. Are you a Cal Inland PCA member?

    • @joshheinz5328
      @joshheinz5328 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not yet, though I plan to be soon!

  • @johnnykhammanh4304
    @johnnykhammanh4304 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is this in Victorville?

    • @JioniDrive
      @JioniDrive  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @johnnykhammanh4304, it was around California City. Not sure if we made it all the way to Victorville.

    • @johnnykhammanh4304
      @johnnykhammanh4304 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kool 👍Awsome car and video btw keep it up 💯🔥🙏🙌

  • @paulpellico3797
    @paulpellico3797 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    first generation DI and carbon build-up usually scare me.....

    • @JioniDrive
      @JioniDrive  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @paulpellico3797, first Gen are always a little scary. Especially when it comes to a 911. But they are fun machines.

    • @BrianJohnson-kh7mg
      @BrianJohnson-kh7mg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that hasnt been shown to be a major issue.

    • @paulpellico3797
      @paulpellico3797 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BrianJohnson-kh7mg then this will/would have been THE FIRST new generation DI that carbon buildup was NOT an issue.