Which FPV goggle works best with Walksnail vRX? I tested them!
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00:00:00 - Without a good goggle, this is useless
00:00:52 - Walksnail Avatar / Fat Shark Dominator
00:03:03 - Skyzone Sky04X
00:05:22 - Orqa FPV.One
00:07:07 - Fat Shark HDO2
00:08:24 - Eachine EV200D
00:09:20 - Skyzone Cobra X
00:10:40 - HDZero Goggles
00:11:41 - How you should think about goggle resolution
00:12:55 - Why framerate affects latency
00:15:31 - Have I earned your support today
00:17:11 - Latency analysis
Chris Rosser latency testing: • HDZero Goggle + Walksn...
00:23:46 - The best choice is....
My review of the HDZero goggle: • The best FPV goggle fo...
The HDZero 90fps camera had me LITERALLY SPEECHLESS: • I'm literally speechle...
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Good job JB! Excellent overview for people looking into this system.
I know this is an old video, but I wanted to say thanks for making one of the most confusing topics in this hobby much more understandable.
Thanks for all the testing, Joshua! Pretty interesting results indeed! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thank you so much for all the knowledge you give us every day!!!
Thanks for all this information. Especially on latency with all the different goggle brands.
Thank you for this episode. I have a good understanding now. From what you have told me I think I'm going to go with the HD0's..
I bought the skyzone cobra x as a spare spectator goggle. I noticed when I tried using it with HDZero it was very difficult for me to even fly and I found myself repeatedly crashing with just flying as I normally do. I chalked it up to just not being used to the box style vs binocular. Makes more sense now seeing how much latency it adds over hdmi input
From what I see here, some new Walksnail Avatar HD googles with analog FPV module support (any FatShark compatible module like TBS Fusion or RapidFire) would be a bomb. Because would allow to use single googles for both digital Walksnail system and any analog FPV VTX existing at today. Much cheaper than requiring two (or three) googles too for FPV folk who already have something analog.
Bought a skyzone 04x last year as my first fpv googles in the hopes that in the future a more affordable or flexible digital system would appear and I could still use the skyzones with that (didn't want to shell out the absurd price for DJI and the closed ecosystem they have, and also the way they break compatibility with older products). Really happy to see that walksnail would be a good way to test digital.
A good way to test digital? How is 46ms latency a good way to test digital FPV? You really think you'll like flying with 46ms BEST CASE SCENARIO latency? Like JB said, that's the least you'll ever feel and most of the time, when actually flying FPV, you'll be getting 10 - 15ms more latency...so, more like 56 - 61ms latency in actual use. Not flyable really unless you just fly wings.
Also, the 04X's cost $529.99 and the OLD price on the DJI V2 goggles was $569.99 with 4 antennas and a battery. So, how did you feel the V2's goggles were an "absurd price?" At least you would have gotten BY FAR the best image quality, range with clarity, and penetration digital FPV has ever achieved...and for only $40 more than what your 04X's cost. But, would it have been more when I don't think the Skyzone goggles come with antennas or a battery. Plus, the new price on the V2 goggles is only $429 USD!
Just so ya know, that "breaking of compatibility with older products" is old news! DJI now supports forward AND backward compatibility with their new 03 digital system and the Vista/Link VTX's from the past. Both the V2 goggles and the Goggles 2 work with both of these VTX's. Full compatibility and then some added little features we weren't expecting but DJI gave users anyway.
@@KOrnhOliO1 For me the latency is fine, skyzone's came with everything I needed, except battery, but u can use a powerbank. When comparing the price I also took into account the transmitters, they are notoriously more expensive than the analog counterparts.
@@KOrnhOliO1 I also went with the sky04x instead of dji because of the RIDICULOUS price. Back then the DJI was 600+ eur and I managed to snatch the sky04x for just a bit over 300 on a sale. New price of dji for peasant europeans is still 570eur = ~625 usd. The DJI compatibility means they connect but based on reviews I have found then the Goggles 2 with vista are utter shit.
Good review. I have to use the skyzone cobra because i must wear glasses. Many sights problems
I am using the Walksnail VRX with my older Fat Shark Dominator HDO goggles. You can go into the Walksnail VRX and change the aspect ration to 4:3 to match the googles. I don't know if this stretches the vertical or clips the horizontal but the image looks great and I don't notice that the image is deformed or anything. I will say that the video is 100 times better than any analog with rapidfire. Wow!
Same here
I don't think the 4:3/16:9 option changes the aspect ratio put out by the vRX. It was originally put in the menu to control the aspect ratio of the camera, but it's been a "dead option" since Walksnail has never made a camera that supports 4:3. I have tested it in the past, and I tested it with the vRX, and in all cases, it seems to have no effect.
but now the DJI V2's are $200 refurbished or store demo 120 fps vs 60 fps stretched screen I dont Know I went with DJI V2 and Falcon Vista 120 fps under $400 I use the SkyZone O4L analog and love them but to get walksnail with LCOS screens would not make sense same screen's as the DJI V2
Thank you for your videos love them. Question does a better flight controller make the drone fly better more stable? Thanks in advance
I am using it with Skyzone 03O's and it works wonderfully. 60fps only and 4:3 only but I'm completely satisfied
What's about the latency?
I also have a pair of 03o s laying around.
Can you recommend the setup?
@@elogamer102 definitely worth a try. I'm happy
Wow! Thanks for confirming that 1080p vs 720p on Sky04x does not seem to make any difference at all in latency. I could not feel a difference between these two settings and it was a little baffling to me. Now I know they’re the same. 👍
Because they both run at 60fps there isn't any difference in latency from the vrx side. Only the goggles might make a difference.
Would quality of the hdmi cord play a factor? I.e. if I use certain USB c to USB c on my black magic pocket, it won't record frame rate correctly.. (lots of dropped frames) however an identical looking cable, though slightly thicker, gets the job done.. something to consider?
Quality of the HDMI cord won't be a factor. Either the digital signals get there or they don't.
@@JoshuaBardwell how about if adding an elbow connector to just tidy up the wiring a bit so I can set down the goggles on a table.
@@BabaBlacSheepFPV same logic applies. Either the data signal gets there or it doesn't.
I've got the OG Fatshark HDO and am really enjoying flying with them and the vRX!
How do the OG HDO goggles handle the 16:9 input? The HDMI specs say they support 4:3 input over HDMI (which matches the screen dimensions). Does the image get stretched vertically like in the Skyzone SKY04X goggles (when those are set to HDMI 4:3 mode) as shown at time position 4:07, or do the HDO goggles automatically letterbox the 16:9 image in their 4:3 screens?
@@snowleopardfpv Surprisingly they handle it pretty well. It is automatically letterboxed with the VRX is set to 16:9. When set to 4:3, it gets stretched pretty heavily but that’s expected.
Thanks for the info friend! Been trying to find what people's experience with OG HDOs is.
@@greatmanofscience Glad I could help! Coming from analog it’s night and day better performance. It’s definitely not up to the standard of my buddies DJI V2 goggles feed but I’m more happen than I expected from the setup.
You still reading this? :-)
So, I have the skyzone 03o which also ONLY does 4:3... So you set the vrx to 4:3??
Skyzone Sky04X with the 16:9 image has actually a 42 degree FOV, compared to HDzero and Walksnail's 46, so it's a little bit smaller. Oscar Liang has a pretty nice FOV comparison tool.
It definitely doesn't look smaller to me, when looking in the goggles.
But it *has* to be smaller... since when displaying a 16:9 image, a 16:9 native screen with 46 FOV stays 46 FOV, whereas a 4:3 native screen with 46 FOV will have a smaller FOV due to diagonal being smaller. In this regard HDO2 and O4X would be the same but HD0 would win for biggest FOV @ 16:9... no? however, the real question there is how much difference do those 4 degrees really make?
I think the real question is how accurate even are the manufacturer quoted FOV values
@@pfeerick It doesn't make a huge difference. I tried to post the link to the FOV comparison tool but my comment gets deleted everytime. You can search for Oscar Liang FOV comparison tool. Its really easy to compare FOVs with that
@@nzmfpv I also like the FOV comparison tool, but you have to take it with a grain of salt. It takes manufacturer reported FOV as accurate and then runs some math. There is also value in putting a camera in the screen to show the actual effect of the optics etc on the FOV.
Fatshark v6 attitude are still the best of the plug in module with fps and power on cable . Someday when they break one of the others will be the best
Have you tested the skyzone 020s? I wonder if I could use the walksnail VRX with their limited resolution and 29 degree fov…they are oled goggles. Will it be worth it for me?
How about EV300o? They have same delay as sky04x? I hope i see fov difference between those goggles and walksnail.
I hope people consider just getting the Walksnail/Dominator goggles if they haven't purchased a WS VRX yet. The VRX is a cheaper alternative to getting Walksnail if you already have goggles, but if you use the system a lot, it's worth it just to get the goggles so you don't have to deal with all the cables, bulk, weight, batteries, and accessories which can easily cost over $100 when you finally figure out your cable/battery/mounting setup and storage/carrying case setups. Living with the VRX vs living with Walksnail goggles is big quality of life difference depending on what you primarily fly.
Right on mate, thanks 👌
Interesting ! Good info ty...
Thank you for your videos. About Cobra X - What firmware version installed in it? Is it the last one?
Sounds like I can get around to opening the walksnail boxes and start loving the digital. Eachine EV300O 1024x768 Goggles as 768 > 720 horizontal
Did you happen to try out your EV300o?
I refuse to buy another set of goggles right now so I'd prob keep running my HDO2s w the receiver if I consider converting to digital.
I have to say im generally pretty latency sensitive and i cant really feel it with my HDO2 and the VRX module. Wheras for instance when i switched from r9 to elrs it was like someone dripped some sort of magic gimbal butter into my radio and i could feel it as soon as i started deflecting the sticks after takeoff. I was nervous after watching your initial review as i was still waiting on my preorder, but i have been kinda blown away by how nice it is to fly. Ive started doing some fairly technical proxy stuff the last time i went out freestyling (only flown the system like maybe 5 or 6 times so far still) and i havent once felt like latency got in the way of me being able to hit a gap etc. All the clips in my most recent upload besides the stuff at the giant smokestack, are flown with the VRX module if anyone cares to take a gander.
Did you ever do a video like this for the HDzero module? I have skyzone cobra x and was thinking of the walksnail but not anymore. Hdzero my next option?
Thanks for another great video Josh. For me the question is how long do I wait before jumping to HD. I waited on DJI as there was always rumors of stopping production or new products or latency. Now HDZero and Walk Snail....and rumors of updated systems, etc etc....oh man...do I switch or not...that is the question..
I'm in the same situation!!
Some folks have tried the Xreal VR glasses with the Walksnail VRX with success. Having that tech, and stand alone analog RX with a hdmi out there, it would be fun to see all the options that are usable with these glasses and their respective latencies. This combo may or may not be a great alternative option in FPV. The advantage being being able to see through the screen to be your own spotter and to have a better situational awareness of your surroundings. Learn us something today - I have some glasses you can borrow.
My poor Cobra X, though this does explain a whole lot. I kept feeling more latency than I thought I should and had no idea why, and well, this for sure explains that, ah well, at least the HDZero goggles will be here eventually and I'll be able to swap over to that.
even with hdzero vrx the cobra x latency already 50ms.
@@moesotaku Yeah, but I'm not going to buy a 800$ (CAD) goggles just to fly only Walksnail. It's also why I went with the VRX. I wanted a cheap entry point to see if I would be interested. I already have the HDZ goggles preordered because I know that's going to be my jam for HDZ and Analog. Walksnail is just going to be something on the side, and there's a good chance they can improve the encoding rate or transfer delay.
Hey JB! Have you had a chance to test on the fatshark attitude v6 goggs? I'm assuming it's the same pipeline as in the hd02 but thought I'd check! Ta
Hi Joshua, do you take the average of several latency measurements for the same case??? I'm not a probability expert but I think that way you can lower the impact of the 4ms error, using at least thirty measurements for every configuration... Nice video, thanks... 🙏🙏🙏
I do take averages, but the latency measurements are always within 2, or in rare cases, 3 frames of each other, and the average is usually the same as the mode. In other words, a typical data set would look like: 10, 10, 10, 9, 10, 10, 11, 10, 10, 10, 9, 11, 10, 10, 10, etc.
@@JoshuaBardwell Great explanation, keep your hard good work... 😉
Props to your editor, this one seems like it was rather busy.
What about using usual cheap vr glasses with hdmi?
Hello Joshua, how did you get the ethics strap on the Cobra X goggles? Did you cut the stitching and resew it, or cut a slot in the plastic goggle ring? Neither of those options appeal to me.
Those goggles were loaned to me by somebody so I don't know the answer.
Hey! Heard you mention that the HDO2 HDMI in should have less than 2ms latency but when I plug in my pc to play my simulator on them the latency makes them almost unusable. Will this be the same as using this VRX? I want to go digital but the HDMI in on my goggles seems basically useless with how slow it is. Is this just my PC?
TIA
Thanks for the video. What about the dominator V3 ???
Hey, great video! I'm intrigued - will this setup (Walksnail VRX + Accsoon Seemo + iPhone) actually work? Could you share more about the connection, battery life, HDMI quality, etc.? If it pans out, it could indeed be the ideal minimal setup for those without goggles.
Anything that relies on an HDMI capture device will have too much latency to fly off of.
Can you do this with the hdzero module while you have them. I want to know how my skyzone o4x would perform with them compared to othera
While Walksnail cameras are 16:9 native, the VRX does have an option to output as 4:3, so you could output the 720p image to a 4:3 native goggle stretched without distortion.
I don't think that's correct. The 4:3/16:9 option is supposed to be for the camera, but has never been implemented. Walksnail doesn't sell a camera capable of 4:3. It's just a dead menu option that has no effect.
@@JoshuaBardwell this might have only changed in the latest firmware update but I've actually toggled the setting in the camera sub-menu of my VRX and seen a visual change. The 4:3 option just clips the width of the image.
It can’t do 4:3 right… I have a stretched image under both settings in my Skyzone 03o’s. I can’t fly it despite trying to get used to it.
Could you use a low latency 100mhz+ monitor/tv? Does it have to be exactly 100mhz or would 120mhz refresh be ok?
I will use analog system up to 2.5-3.0 inches drones and HD system with drones from 3 inches up.
Works great on the Fat Shark Attitude V6 FPV .
Did you find that you get an extra black line on both sides of the image, further reducing the image size?
(Not just the letterbox lines at the top and bottom which are expected because of the 16:9 image on a 4:3 screen, but also on the sides of the image.)
@Vousie I did not see any reduction in image to the left and right of the screen. From the v6 view, only the top and bottom were cut off due to the 16×9 presentation, but as you stated, that is normal. I wish there was a way to add an image to this thread.
@@neopro2783 Hmm, having checked again, I wonder if it's a compatibility issue with my laptop. When I just switch it to HDMI mode without an input, the blue image covers the entire 16:9 area in the goggles, yet as soon as I plug my laptop's HDMI out into the goggles, the image is slightly smaller (i.e. it adds a black border all around the edge of what was blue before)... This is even with the laptop set to only output to the goggles.
Edit: Huh. Just tested it on a second laptop, and that one did cover the full 16:9 area... Looks like it is a compatibility issue. Now to figure out how to fix it...
About orqa - it's actually FPV.one pilot. It's a pity that you don't have the older version of the goggles to compare.
I use walksnail VRX with V1 versionsof the orqa and it works fine, if I remember the older version has larger FOV. 720p works great but I can't send 1080p to the goggles, it looks like it can't downsize the resolution, I don't know how it works with Pilot version?
How well did it work with the fat shark scout? or the recon?
I have the original Fatshark HDO, I was ready to pull the trigger on the VTX. Now I’m not sure what to do. Any data on the original HDO’s?
We you saying some people were claiming older goggles were letting people use the high frame rate option can you look into this for us ? I can’t find anything
I wonder how well they would work with Aomway Commanders v2.
My Skyzone 04l will work, I just wonder how the image will appear since my goggles have an LCOS 1280*960 High Resolution Screen?
I'm thinking about pairing this up with the Skyzone Cobro x v2
I've only managed a few flights with my vrx and the CobraX v1. The numbers don't lie, but as wing guys it's not as big a concern. I've had no issues
What about skyzone 02c will they work with vrx they have hdmi socket but not sure if it’s in or out
i also would like to know, i have skyzone 02c also ...
What google have the best screen display for sub activities like watching a video?
i have the ev200 and put that vrx on it, seems like it was worth it. cant testfly yet parts are coming :D
That best case latency, from the chart, and then adding 10 - 15ms for flying FPV and you'll get the idea that really high latency is going to be a huge concern.
Cheers brothers...,but is avalaible for my ev300d?, Thanks from Spain mates 👍🤓👌, in special...to the boss.
@joshua b. Thank you for assisting me earlier. I am planning to buy walksnail avatar vrx but as this is a expensive hobby and I currently use eachine otg analog reciver with my smartphone in a vr box. So can I use WS Avatar + video capturing device(hdmi to phone) + smartphone(go fpv or other usb camera app via otg) . I understand their can be an additional latency but how practical is to use the setup I am planning. Thank you
Personally I wouldn't find that setup very usable due to the additional latency.
@@JoshuaBardwell thank you for your attention. And saving my $ 350 . 😁
what about the original dominators with hdmi in? specifically the dominator v3? i bet it looks great on an old dominator v3 set... and it's got that 840 16:9 needed widescreren aspect thats above the skyzones and below the dominator hd's.. yet nowadays really affordable 2nd hand or if you already got them. seems like a perfect fit for walksnail and hdzero.
I was hoping the Dom V3 was going to be included.
It's great on Dominator's V3's tbh
I have some Dom V3, no issues at all with the walksnail ?
Thanks for everything you do JB. Super disappointed with the Cobra X performance. Assume this is nothing that skyzone can/would fix in firmware?
Joshua, I believe the above comment is phishing. Can you delete and ban?
How do you think the walksnail vrx would look with the old school v1 commanders?
And all People with IPD >72mm can still just use box googles....is it so hard to make IPD adjustable up to 75ish mm?
What about the Aomway Commander V2 goggles,can they be paired with a walksnail vRX??
Joshua did you test on the V1 or V2 of the Cobra X goggles?
This is v2, but the only difference between them (if I recall correctly) is the 60fps DVR on the v2. The display is identical.
8:47 , i believe the image labeling is incorrect,
Top right is EV200D (not orqa),
Bottom right is HD02 (not EV200D)..
Can you pls verify this ?
Im using the skyzone 030 and found that if i had the vrx set to 4:3 it looked squashed but once i set the vrx to 16:9 the image looked so much better
did you check? i thinign about VRX to my skyzone 03o but not sure if its gonna work well
@@MrrQuake its been working really well so far
Dji v2 hands dwn IMO
Knoxville, tennesse ..cheers
What about skyzone 04l, do it has lower latency than goggles with lcd screen?
Did you try 100 fps on the skyzone 04x? I tried it and got an image at 720/100 fps 25 megabit though the image was skewed which is probably a result of overscan.
Yeah I tried it but it was not a usable image.
Damn. I actually sent you an email last night with a similar question to this video. Only I’m using the fat shark attitude V6 goggles.
I too have the Attitude V6 been looking for that info also...
Confused on your experience with the Cobra x; I had to turn the brightness down on mine because they were too bright.
Yeah I think people are just comparing them to OLED screens, but when you are using them, they are great. You camera compresses the dynamic range so much you lighten the shadows and darken the highlights that its not like you can see more with OLED. Its a just a reviewer issue. The Cobra X screen is great.
I have both the Coba X and the X2. Only power supply board and DVR of 30 fps vs 60 fps are different. I'm quite sure latency is the same. The Cobra's have 7 image modes and the brightness, contrast, saturation, hue and sharpness can be adjusted. I do not recognise the dimm picture of JB's Cobra X2. Love the vibrant picture of my screens, many hours on them. For sure they cannot deliver the same picture as the Oled screens, but it's not as bad as JB's picture 😊
Would the older fatshark dominator v3 work with walksnail?
Has anyone tried this with the new DJI Goggles 2? It has HDMI input now I believe. As someone looking to switch into the digital world, I'm thinking with the new DJI goggles, you could use these external VRX's to also use the HDzero, or the Walksnail, or just the plain analog ecosystems as needed. Am I thinking of this correctly?
Has anybody tried them on the skyzone 02c goggles. Im still rocking them with a wildfire moduleand im curious if its worth even trying them with this walksnail module or if i wouod be wasting my time. Anyone know?
So, does the rekon is the best WS goggle for budget less student?! 😅😁🤣💲
It's certainly not the best combo available, but the walksnail vrx works well at 720p 60 with my old FXT Viper box goggles as a place holder until I can get a pair of the HDZero goggles.
I also have the FXT Viper goggles V2 and have been wondering how they would work with WS. I'm somewhere between beginner and intermediate flyer so nowhere near the racing and free style you see on YT. Probably closer to beginner. Wondering what you get for screen size, latency, etc.
Commenting to see any replys on this.
Sky04x has 46deg FOV in 4:3 representation, isn’t? So in 16:9 it’s has to be smaller FOV, right? Why you said it’s equal with WS and HDZero goggles, which have 46 dog FOV in native 16:9?
This Vrx would be awesome on the FatShark Transformer SE. They have a 55 degree FOV
But, remember the latency would be sky high!
How to use head tracker frome skyzone cobra x v2 using walksnail avatar vrx
Ev200d’s may not be oled but they’re not lcd. LCoS!
I haven’t flown them yet net in testing they look nice.
Any reason why the sky04L would be any different than the 04X? I'm guessing no, other than not oled.
The display would potentially have different latency.
Hi! What about hd zero vrx module latency?
I should get royalties from orqa googles?
I can confirm that walksnail works great on my old aomway commander V2 goggles,they have 1080p 60hz led screens,all good
aren't they 800x600 o.O
also work on aomway commander v1? thanks
Can I use the DJI fpv goggles V1?
These are super interesting results, especially the Hdzero goggle latency being the same for 60 and 100fps. I really wonder if the extra latency is coming from the goggle or the vrx… I know the Hdzero team has been working on some bugs with hdmi inputs recently. Now I really want to hook my walksnail vrx to my gaming monitor to see if the latency is different at 60 vs 100fps. 🤔
The latency shown on the DVR or the sensor to display latency? You can reduce latency over HDMI by inserting more fps into the channel.
What do you mean? 42 ms vs 67 ms for the HDZero goggles...
It’s a shame hdzero hdmi performance is so poor. When I use it at 60hz with a PC, there is a huge amount of input lag plus stuttery frame pacing
Eachine EV900D. My friend is using them with Walksnail vrx. Picture is REALLY great, that 1080p lcd screen in there is great - bright and clear. And humongus. Too big for me. Doesn't work with 100 fps, but latency is lower than using them as analog goggles.
But, as you probably know, the latency is most likely right around the BEST CASE SCENARIO on his chart of around 75ms latency. Like JB said, that's the least you'll ever feel and most of the time, when actually flying FPV, you'll be getting 10 - 15ms more latency...so, more like 85 - 91ms latency in actual use. Not flyable for FPV really, unless you just fly wings.
@@KOrnhOliO1 I can't give any numbers. I was using EV900D as analog years ago and I felt the latency. And I was flying them as analog goggles few times recently since my friend is having them. There is a setting deep in the menues where you disable certain option and after that there is less latency using them as analog goggles. I definatelly felt that. Latency was still big (for analog), but it was better. And I was flying them recently since he bought Walksnail vrx and there was less latency for sure compared with using them as analog with that option disabled. I would say little more than using high quality with DJI. I would definatelly pick that over analog. And again, that gigantic 1080p lcd screen in there is the best looking lcd screen I have ever flown. And I did flew a lot of various fpv goggles. When Walksnail sorts out zoom out option it will be even better. That is, if you can live with 50+ ms latency.
@@mihavuk That is, if you can live with 50+ ms latency...that is gonna be a tough pill to swallow for many. 😟
I am confused as someone who owns the Cobra X V2s.. the Analog picture is very bright and usable are you saying with the Walksnail Avatar VRX it's somehow dimmer than normal? It isn't when I use it for sims via the HDMI? I am concerned because I am looking into the Walksnail VRX kit.. and I certainly can't afford even more expensive goggles?
If you're happy with the brightness of your Cobra screen on analog, then it won't be any different on Walksnail. Mine was dimmer than the other goggles I use.
@@JoshuaBardwell Cool thx JB. Guess the latency is the only thing that's really worrying me now.
What about the Fatshark Dominator V3s??????
I must be accustomed to high latency, then, since flying with FatShark Scouts for the past 3 years. I'm pleasantly surprised that WalkSnail + CobraX are very flyable for me, going some distance and behind 6 story buildings without any noticeable latency 'effects'. Perhaps the latency of the Scouts is nearly equal to the combined latency of WalkSnail + CobraX (?)
Yes there are lots of other videos on YT io people flying proximity with Cobra X's with Avatar VRX's I think JBs sample size of one makes these tests pretty useless but are appreciated. But either way his cobra X's he tested seem to be an outlier.
So after flying with the Avatar HD goggles for a few months I decided to go back and try my CobraX + VRX combo. It definitely felt different for the first couple packs but after that I was doing all of my normal baby-freestyle stuff so I think our brains are able to compensate/adapt as necessary. I'm keeping that combo as a backup now. The CobraX aren't as comfortable and I have to wear glasses with them, so not all great.
@@LargeNuts I'm thinking the closer you are to being a top pilot, the more this will matter to you. But for us mere mortals - probably not as big an issue as being discussed :)
Thinking about upgrading from HDO2:
Nearly same Latency, fov , picture Quality.
Sooooo…No 😅
I'm curious.. on the cobra x can't you turn up the brightness to be brighter? I have a set and will be trying this once the weather is better.
I'm in the same boat as you, I was also thinking you could turn the brightness up more, that image look pretty dark compared to mine
Same here, my screen way brighter than that
@@basslinedrc3dfpv827 I am wondering if he tested on the V1 or V2 goggles? Are you running the V1 or V2? I hope to have my walk snail video up in the next few days on the Sky Zone Cobra X goggles if you're interested
@@SteadfastRC im running the V2, i believe the only change between the two was an improved power regulator. Id be interested in watching that before i buy
Bear in mind y'all that you are seeing a gopro with fixed exposure, and the exposure was set based on an ultra-bright OLED screen. The LED screen at its brightest is still not as bright as an OLED (I would guess).
I have tested my cobra X and the image is much better than in your test. Vivid color Mode and looks good. Maybe went something wrong when you took the picture
Remember, the GoPro exposure was calibrated to the OLED screen and was locked, to give a sense of the difference between them. This is how much brighter the OLED is.
15:55 - Best 4 seconds of this video! 😆
I will never understand how the entire FPV community could care less if a lens is 17mm tall or 22mm tall or 17.3mm wide or 32mm wide. I see the sides of Walksnail goggles really clearly as I peek through the tiny windows to a screen on other side. The same is true on Skyzone 04X vs my DJI V2s but so far the Walksnails are the smallest I have run into. Reports from HDZero users is the lens is 17mm x 22mm so they sound like the smallest yet in vertical view but I cannot confirm and likely won't be able to confirm for awhile. Current HDZ status: customs for a week and counting.
Solid video, would liked to have seen more vintage fat shark goggles. I’m pretty happy with hdo1 but what about those older dom hd 1-3 goggles that are 800x600
Yeah unfortunately the set of Dom HD3 that I received wouldn't take any HDMI input at all, not even from a laptop computer. I sent them back to the owner with my thanks, and he said they immediately worked fine for him. I have no idea why.
@@JoshuaBardwell I had a similar problem with my Dom3s at first. They won't work until you flip the little switch to turn off the analog module. Works fine now. I just flew with them 10 minutes ago. The FOV still sucks compared to others but it was super clear. I'll happily use them until my HDZero goggles get here in March
@@gadgetmerc oh man, you're answering my question! I've got the old Dom V3s, and I was curious how they'd hold up. No issues? Latency isn't a deal breaker?
@@MoonManMetals I don't feel latency until i go behind something. Feels like it drops off a cliff fast. I assumed it was due to the shit walksnail antenna. I'll test with slow-mo and an LED tonight. I'll follow-up here.
@@gadgetmerc you are absolutely the man. Are you running with their antennas on both the VTX and the VRX? Will you bother upgrading, what with your new goggles coming?
damn what a bummer, looking at my cobra x v2's rn
any chance you have any monitor based goggles like fxt viper?
The cobra goggles in this video are monitor based like viper. Or is that not what you meant?
@@JoshuaBardwell yep that's what i meant 😎👍
The HDO2 doesn’t have the ability to display a 4:3 image when in HDMI mode
Well that's convenient in this case at least.
Hello Joshua Bardwell
It's kind of crazy. I want all of the hd systems equally for different reasons. But I will most likely get the hdzero goggles and walksnail vrx. It was pretty cool to see the walksnail through my goggles either way.
Yeah for sure!