I had exactly the same issues with a radeon GPU, switched back to Nvidia - not a single issue, now I'm back with AMD, problems are back... it's just a shitty little system
@@pusico6555 lol an editor overclocking or touching anything on the card, such a noob. plus why he didnt used a RX6000 for more stability? its just edition lol double rookie error, yeah this boy have no clue.
They definitely should start working with creators more, so if thinks are fixable in this gen or else next gen.. in short, it's unacceptable for AMD to ignore this market segment, specially since in gaming they've practically reached where Nvidia's at.
Premier works best with Nvidia, DaVinci if you're using an Radeon, but definitely agree that dev and component manufacturers should work together to resolve issues
Don't hold your breath. Their game drivers are just as bad, the newest ones are crashing all over the place in gaming. AMD has literally never had consistently stable drivers nor has it had consistently performant drivers nor has it had consistently compatible drivers.
And this is why Nvidia feels like they can charge whatever they want. Once you factor in time lost and frustration from random issues it becomes more than whatever the difference in pricing was.
It's the dumbest decision, they're trying to beat NVIDIA at their own game instead of eating a huge part of their marketshare. "YEAH LET'S FOCUS ON FSR INSTEAD OF TRYING TO BEAT CUDA!!"
Should i get 4070 ti? Here 7900xt have same price as 4070ti but the vram.. I mainly use pc for working (render etc) but i want the best price to performace for gaming
should i get 7900xt or rtx 4070 ti super? I only doing adobe after effects/premiere for now. but I want learn davinci resolve. at my country, rx 7900xt is much cheaper
@@hong_1712 If its a whole lot cheaper then go for the xt becuase the 3070 doesnt have that much vram but also do your research first. The xt cards did seem to have some odd issues with premiere but i think they might be sorted after all these months/ year
I am the creator (Highway Engineer), working in CAD ( Autodesk Civil 3D) and using AMD pro Drivers, actually it works way better then NVIDIA, it is more stable then NVIDIA'S studio driver on CAD
In games and very basic editing I have had zero issues with my 6800XT for the year I have had it. Alot of games and alot of hours no issues. That said, I can say I have lurked the professional production task conversations and nVidia definately still holds title as the card of choice for professional creators. In the past AMD adjusted pricing to be a better value for the 99% of us that do not need that feature set but now? This release? Not sure what their game is. If the 7900XT does not come down in price I will get a 4070ti when I see one on sale. AMD maybe is not all that concearned with this part of the GPU market but if they want to gain more marketshare they need to. I know they are kings when it comes to CPU marketshare and Consoles in the millions but GPU's are important too. I hope they decide to get more aggressive there but who knows if they will.
@@mexreax4493 professionally? Yes! In games, well if MW2 is your main game then you’re absolutely wrong! My 6800xt smacks that 4090’s ass!!! Ok ok I know it’s ONE game but love to shut up a nVidia fanboy! 😆
@@terraincognitagaming yes, I said that! What of it ? I know because I have a 4090 too. It is the only game that AMD surpasses in! 6800xt OC in 1080p! What you gonna my to do about it, punk!?
The short answer is "Creators needs CUDA cores" As a fan of AMD and working with 3D graphic, animations and photogrammetry I was trying to use RADEONs but finally I had to give up. I can't run many programs on radeons because of lack of CUDA cores. It is not necessary fault od AMD. They have their own solutions but developers of the software often don't even try to make something compatible with AMD GPUs.
Yeah true amd just doesnt perform as well on stuff like blender, so id assume the performance gap is even bigger in something like solidworks, really unfortunate, but im only planning to use blender as a hobby and not as a job, so im personally not that affected, but yeah i get it. Actually can you even use AMD for solidworks? Ive only ever seen it used with nvidia
Thank you SO much for creative oriented hardware test videos and sharing your experiences... These are very important for someone like me who always on budget.
5:30 the part you mentioned about the video editing and the pc crashing and black screening was experienced by Paul (Not an Apple Fan) on the Techonomics Podcast. He’s mentioned this happened numerous times and switching to a RTX2080Ti was a much smoother process for video editing and preferred the Nvidia experience by faaaar!
@@zperdek yup a third party gave me a hard time too. I didn't know that you can make Davinci crash when Riva Tuner is in the background. I couldn't even create a timeline. Took me a while to figure out the culprit as the crash logs didn't tell much of a story.
So basically your power supply couldn't handle the new GPU load and your brain couldn't figure it out so your decided that oh GPU IS NEW IT MUST BE THE PROBLEM. GLORIOUS thinking my friend.
The unfortunately reality is that for creators, Nvidia is the only choice when it comes to GPUs. I always want AMD to do well but every time it looks like they might be better, they manage to step on a rake. At this point I have more faith that intel will eventually offer an alternative to Nvidia than AMD will.
Same feeling, right now Intel doesn't have the hardware needed to compete, but they are working very well onto drivers, next serie will probably be a much more heavier strike onto the market
Not the only choice at all. It’s a herd mentality. I do agree that nVidia is the technology leader in a lot of ways, but their business practices are worse than Apple’s.
@@seiyachan Apple uses integrated GPUs now. They work quite well but don’t have the raw horsepower to compete with higher end discrete GPUs such as 4080s and 7900s
I once had a 6900XT GPU from PowerColor. I had sooo many issues with it, that I sold it after a month of trying to fix the issues. I got a RTX 3080 and 0 issues. Just installed the card, installed the drivers and boom! Everything worked perfectly. Sorry but AMD drivers have a lot of catch up to do. People accused me of fanboy but oh no, fanboy I'm not.
I have had similar experiences with my 5700xt either crashing in apps and games, and some times yes it just disappears. Been putting up with that for over 3 years, now I'm doing a complete rebuild. 4090 water force edition, 7950x, asus Prime x670e Pro wifi, 64gb @6400, Samsung 990 pro, 1200 watt. Thanks for your videos leading me in the right direction looking for the right parts. Also saved some money buying a windows 10 key with your discount 👌
Don’t get 6400mhz ram, get 6000mhz because over 6000mhz halves the infinity fabric clock making performance drop quite a bit and stutters occur quite a lot
You know I currently been using 6800xt with R9 5900x for UW 1440p Ultra for almost 2 years. No hiccups. Ran like a champ! Still playing MW2 with no problems and high fps. When I hear stories like this, I cringe. Either you're an nVidia fanboy and love to talk junk about AMD & their fandom. Or you got a crappy 5700xt with bad QA. Or you're lying! I had a palit 3060 around the same time I got the 6800xt. Worked great. For 3 months then KAPUT! It was light gaming! What a POS! Sorry you had to deal with a POS too. So, recently bought a new 3080, and it runs like a champ too. But AMD is still faster! Nvidia is way better at RT. Enough said. Good luck
Could it be the make? I am using the Gigabyte 7900XT and premiere pro and its running super well! No issues at all. My specs: Ryzen 9 5950x, MSI Carbon Max Wifi x570s, 4x32 Trident Royal Z Silver 3600 CL 16, HX1000i psu, firecuda 530 2tb firecuda 530 4tb XPG Gaming (Gen3) 2TB, MSI water cooler. Its great, using the LG UltraGear 27GN950-B. This is my first AMD system and the power is great for my creator needs.
And 1000W psu, kind'a one point that intentionally-or-not TechNotice did not check. If it is 'either it locks' (on small PSU) or it melts the connector (4090) - I would choose AMD and 1KW PSU. 🙂
I’d be curious about that, too. I’m keeping a 4070 around for my 3D modeling but my 7800 XT experience was so good that it has replaced my 4070 for video editing.
I changed out from an older rx 570 to a 6700 xt, and the performance bump was tremendous. I haven't had any issues with it. Perhaps it was a driver problem? Did you safe mode DDU the nvidia stuff before you loaded the adrenaline? That very well could cause a lot of the problems you're seeing.
He also may have an under-performing power supply unit in there, the 7900XTcan bang >400 watts in bursts, that'll cause weird stability-looking issues...
Surprisingly my 5700G's Radeon iGPU have no issues so far. Davinci resolve works very smooth and stable. Maybe its an old Vega Architecture that's why. Btw Linus Sebastian (LTT) said that they never go with the latest gen of components for editing systems, they always go one generation back
Yeah, I can see you have no clue at 7:02. Rotating fans like this might cause negative voltage and damage your card! NEVER DO THIS! Who knows what you have damaged... It is possible this is why you had some blackouts.
I use the Sapphire 7900XTX and i am very happy. I know how and what tools to use. I do Blender and work on small games. Waiting for new Threadrippers ; ) Sad to hear that the gpu was not doing well for you. You can always send problems to AMD it is integrated in the driver. Would be nice when you can report Premiere crash.
A Threadripper is probably overkill for your workload. Currently, Blender prefers single thread performance for most operations, apart from sculpting and rendering (which isn't relevant if you use your GPU for rendering). As for game engines, having many cores improves compilation speed, but unless you are a programmer this isn't a bottleneck to your workflow. All to say, a consumer chip with high single thread performance and a moderate core-count should be sufficient.
Yo bro, can you tell me more about your experience with the Sapphire 7900XTX, how it perfoms in creator tools like rendering, photo/video editing and also obviosly gaming (if you can) because I'm wondering to buy the Sapphire 7900XTX or the ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 4070 TI OC.
@@locinolacolino1302hey i wanted to ask, I wanna build a pc for game dev and gaming at 1440p and wanted to know if I should go with AMD cz of it's VRAM/price or Nvidia cz of people talk about stability and performance in work SECONDLY should I go for AMD or Intel
I would like to see this looked at again. Its been 7 months and that's a lot of software updates. So some of these issues might be fixed, So the GPU might be worth considering again.
i'm on rx 5700xt, and could use an upgrade soonish. but i'm reluctant to go into a radeon again, because the way it works with radeon is you buy the iron, and then you wait another year or two for amd to fix all the driver issues :/
I'm in the same boat as you. Though I'm going back to team green since AMD doesn't care about creators & they always have driver issues with every new architecture.
Upgraded from 5700XT to 7800XT. The thermals, performance EVERYTHING is superior to the 5700XT. I didn't realize how terrible that card was until I upgraded. No more 110c hotspots neither.
Weird, I don't have any of those issues with a 7900XT, but I also don't use all those fancy tools, I just use shotcut and lossless cut with 3rd party codec packs.
I think all of your problems were Windows 11 problems or AMD drivers for Windows 11. I had the same problems and almost returned my cards but when downgrading to windows 10 all of those issues disappeared with the same drivers. Edit: wanted to share that these issues also happened with RX 6000 series and windows 11 -- but absent on Win 10.
W110 user.. have same issues with amd. Pubg 50 of time it goes black screen and i have to restart.. and rarely in other ggames. I had 0 issues in 4 years with nvidia rtx 2070
I had the 7900xtx and it was subpar in Davinci resolve. Some of my plugins like Dehancer refused to work with it. It also ran very hot due to it being reference design. Went and got a 4090 and everything just runs better off the bat. 4k timeline scrubbing and editing is super smooth even with multiple layers of effects.
I was thinking of getting that GPU for both gaming & 3D work, but unfortunately I heard too many bad stuff especially the unstable drivers at launch which AMD always mess up with every new GPU architecture. I'm currently running a 5700 XT & I'm going to work my ass off to save up money for an RX 4070 Ti. Along with a bios update of my mobo to upgrade to a Ryzen 9 5950X, as shown in the video & new PSU.
@@amrishpatel3501 It sucks, but for creators Nvidia is the only choice. I'm not a far of Nvidia personally but unfortunately there isn't any competition in this segment of the market so we are stuck going with Nvidia whether we like it or not.
@amrishpatel3501 I really wanted to give team Red a chance since im running a 5800x and am very happy with it. Unfortunately, the crashing and the amount of time trying to fix the 7900xtx heat issue that would reach 110 degrees was enough for me to go back to nvidia. You think nah, that could never happen to me but it did. Even considered buying a non reference 7900 xtx but the bad taste was already there. I'm no fanboy but the premium you pay for nvidia products became less of an issue after this.
@@MarkLargo AMD is pretty solid on the CPU side, I just wish they put that same level of quality and effort on their GPU side. I always want AMD to do well for GPUs but with every generation I'm hoping AMD will finally offer an alternative to Nvidia only for them to disappoint me.
I have only one question: Do you guys used the Pro Drivers or the regular ones? 🤔 I too had a lot of problems while doing productivity using the regular Drivers. The moment I switched to the Pro once I had zero issues.
As someone that used a 6900XT for 3D characters and animations for 2 years (need alot of VRAM and at the time the 3090 was way to expensive) and switched to a 4090. It isn't about just the performance its about how far behind AMD is from Nvidia when it comes to drivers, software support etc. As soon as I installed the 4090 the software I have been using for years CC3+ and Iclone had a massive 5GB update that added soooo much stuff that made animations, and making characters soooo much easier. Now I am making scenes with 10+ characters on it running at 4k 60fps. I don't think I'll ever go back to AMD. They are just to far behind Nvidia.
I'm planning to upgrade this year to a RTX 4070 Ti from an RX 5700 XT. Though I have to do a bios update first on my X570 mobo to upgrade my CPU from a 3950X to a 5950X & also upgrade my PSU to handle the power of both. :)
I recently upgraded my old vega 56 with a 4070TI and I can confirm the random crashes on premiere pro on AMD graphics (especially when alt+tabbing to other apps)
Could be your PSU not up to scratch. Vega had very high transient power load which caused weaker systems to fail. 4070 is a terrible choice it barely has more vram headroom than your 4-5 year old gpu lmao./
@@N4CR This is EXACTLY true. I would have random crashes ONLY when running at max power. I replaced the PSU with a larger one and it never happened again.
@@N4CR I need a new PC. I wanted to go with an AMD GPU with at least 16GB vram but now this video made me thinking... I can't go above 2000 bucks for the whole build (Euros). 1500-1700 would be better, so I could buy me a nice monitor with the rig. What do you think should I do >_> ? Take the L and go with the 4070ti or wait til prices drop and 4080 gets in range :/ ?
If we're speaking strictly about 5950x on X570 chipset, The settings below can help with stability and performance. Set PBO Manual Stock PPT EDC TDC - No Curves, Scalar 1, Temp 75, Boost Auto \\ Same with PBO Advanced. Also Set Advance PBO Boost to Negative offset of -150 to prevent boosting beyond 4900MHz For Stability. ( Don't touch core voltage. ) Disable Global PCI Mux and Core Isolation to gain a bit of performance. I use Project Hydra 1.8E to do that. 1.6F is still useful.
have you tried installing pro drivers instead of adrenalin for stability issues? idk if there is one for 7000 series tho, just saying in case you didn't know you can do that for gaming cards like 6000 series or even older cards..
pro drivers doesn't improve performance really, just for stability in games and software like random closes and restart he got, it may do a better job than game ready drivers. in your case see if disabling ULPS (Ultra Low Power State) with msi afterburner do any help. it can cause slow downs and even black screen for some users.
AMD is speccing their GPUs with reasonable VRAM quantities. Nvidia's cards all have 4GB less than they ought to. Premiere crashing is unacceptable. I literally switch between game ready and studio drivers when I go to edit a video, because I notice Premiere crashes maybe once per 18 hours instead of once per 12 hours with the studio drivers vs the game ready ones. Premiere crashing is a mess; even if you can get back into Premiere in 2 minutes, it's still a huge setback to crash and break your whole "flow" (for lack of a better word). ...unfortunately I can't just stick with the studio drivers because games microstutter when using it.
The problem with Nvidia and ATI with drivers and registry , is when you switch, windows never deletes all files, create a conflict with software and hardware.. :(
@@ricsim78 It sucks that you have to use another program and research this information. Their uninstaller should do exactly what DDU does. Hell when you install new drivers it should inspect your system for drivers from previous installations inform you that the older drivers can cause problems in your system then ask if you want to remove them.
@@CHA0SBLEEDS I agree with you, but thankfully there is something available that allows us to completely remove drivers. Before DDU, completely removing a GPU driver basically involved you reinstalling Windows. That or you can spend an hour going through the registry and trying to find orphaned files on your system, with chances high you would be missing something. Now it is a matter of minutes and requires a system restart. A lot of software should be better than it is, and ALL programs and drivers should completely uninstall themselves. Unfortunately the people writing the software are usually pressed for time in a pro setting, so they do the bare minimum to get it functional so they can work on the next piece of software. Antivirus software has become better, but even they often need software uninstallers to completely remove.
@@ricsim78your comment reminded of how McAffee was on Win98 and WinXP💀
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or you could switch to Linux (if your tool of choice is not Adobe related) and just enjoy super stable drivers from team red.... on Windows... not so much
It's not the GPU's fault. It's Premiere's bad programming, that they've used some Nvidia's proprietary feature without checking, if they are actually running on Nvidia.
It's just that RDNA3 is a new architecture, as always it takes a while for drivers to become optimized and stability improves. If you rely on it professionally, the smart move is wait a couple of months for it to mature.
This Bullshit practice of releasing products with the promise of "oh we'll fix it up in upcoming months" is a stupid trend. Consumers really don't deserve this behaviour. When you buy something you buy for it to work NOW. I'd rather they take a few months extra to release but actual make it stable.
I had the black screen issue with GTX 970 mostly with HDMI port. But not with display port. Linus also mentioned how he had impossible to diagnose crashes, but finally it came out to be as simple as cable port bad connection.
Yep. I've had this problem with two AMD cards. Using a different port fixed most of my crashing issues.. Also, AMDs "Recommended" drivers are usually a lot more stable than the "Optional" ones, when it comes to black screens and the like
@@Ben-Rogue Apparently, stick to "Recommended" and whatever each software vendor calls "stable" or "long term release" unless you are fully prepared to be a beta tester.
ain't a big content creator nor a professional, but i had a weird experience with AMD too. Got a 6950xt like, two months before the 7000 release, and since first day i experienced unstabilities with it. What's funny is that in-game the cards performs really well, i play with the aim to have as much frames and stability as possible, and it somehow achieved that. What's fuzzy is when you use the gpu in the most regular way : on windows desktop. Black screens freezes, black screen crashes, driver crashs, white flashes, stutters for no reasons, and all that with sometimes really basic stuff like putting your cursor from a window to an other in the task bar, or just highlighting the effect when your mouse is on the closing icon window or reducing one. Even when watching videos or streams you have like a "epileptic madness" mode that appears and makes the screen flashing every 3 seconds, crazy to see trust me on my words. GPU is going in the repair zone, i just hope they'll say it's not fixable so that i can get a refund and go for a 4070ti. AMD isn't for high-end/pro uses.
He won't try again he's just wanted to attack amd. Windows restarting because GPU? Premier oro crashing?I've never experienced that with stock amd settings. I don't believe him at all. Unless he's overclocking
@@pusico6555 it does happen on AMD as well as NVIDIA cards when a particular task takes tooo long on compute unit, driver times out as these cards were primarily meant for gaming and games don't cause that much compute delay ! it is know as TDR time outs . So either switch from graphics mode to compute or increase the tdr using reg edits. And sometimes AMD cards just go black and have to restart Driver with win +shift+ crt +b .
I also had stability issues in blender with 6900XT and 7900XT instantly switched back to nvidia, I have an issue open that's now 1 year old on their gitlab... still no fix.
Blender is definitely the application where I had the worst experience with AMD cards so far - and the reason I keep a 4070 around. Oddly not the case in all applications trying to do similar things, though. For instance, particle systems in Blender are faster with Nvidia but running 3D particle systems in Particle Illusion standalone has been faster for me with both the Arc A770 16GB and 7800 XT than the 4070, even with really low VRAM usage, often shaving a minute or more off what were 7 minute renders with the 4070. I think it might be because of lower driver overhead because it was hard to get results that weren’t at least somewhat CPU limited in that application even on a 13900K.
I'm no expert, but couldn't this be a problem due to poor power supply? Or some other incompatibility? Did you try this video card in other setups? Is this information current as of February 2024? Other users also had this problem?
@@perlichtman1562 I had an 850 which I thought was more than enough but the power spikes despite being very brief were 600 watts on the card alone which would trip the PSU overvolt protection
Long term users should not be surprised by the persistent support from Nvidia, regarding software compatibility and reliability in the professional sphere. Nvidia was one of the first vendors to provide complete OpenGL ICD support way back with RiVA 128 and TNT, not just some miniGL layer for the Quake-based games.
Yeah great, fanboy! No open source? Gee whiz no thanks:p Nvidia only cares about their profit margins so I’m surprised about this “persistent support from NVidia.”
@@andyjoelharper3448 Of course they are doing it to make money, no one doubts that they are greedy af (just like most companies) and aren't doing this from the good of their hearts. Either way, they provide great support and are on top of fixing all issues within weeks. I couldn't care less why they give this support, the fact is that I gave them my money for a gpu so I expect it to work without issues on their end. Can't say that for AMD *yet*.
@@andyjoelharper3448 Nvidia did release an open source driver I think in 1999 for the Riva 128 and the TNT. Problem was they included SGI's software renderer as part of the driver and were hit hard by SGI for it and could no longer distribute the driver. Not sure if that may have been part of the reason why nvidia was hesitant to release open source again or not, but I did use that driver when it released back then on a Riva 128.
I just got a 7800 XT, and I'm having issues with Lightroom freezing on my while making adjustments to RAW photos. It freezes so hard, I have to go into the task manager to shut it off then reopen, when it'll freeze again in a minute or so. Very strange. Not sure if it's the GPU or not though.
@@AbdulrahmanRashid-u9r No, but after a few more lightroom updates, it seemed to fix itself, so probably just a Lightroom bug. I don't know what a Pro driver is.
@@crisantiberiu4633 AMD still needs to be proactive and not reactive though. This is why Nvidia was able to dominate the scene. They were proactive enough, whilst injecting their addictive proprietary CUDA on any prominent software development. AMD needs to be more proactive and/or play dirty like Nvidia if you want to see more competition...
@@AwankO that would be hard to do if most of Nvidia proprietary CUDA has been embedded on most software. It would make sense for them to target gamers first, get some marketshare and actually hold it. Ryzen didn't swallow Intel in 1 generation.. it took multiple consecutive generations.
@@rick_takahashi I mean I think they don't care about it, the software side of things is a harder nut to crack than the hardware. They need to promote their GPUs more toward content creators on TH-cam, Twitch, and Discord if AMD truly wants to get into the content creation market.
@@user-jh1mq2ih2u The problem is that I live in another country, and there is no place where I can order the Intel ARC GPU. So, I need someone who can run the test and show us the results before we order the product.
@@Gamundi08 and trial And error order it just like other TH-camrs who don’t get the free stuff .. but it and do your review and return it you have to just like other starting TH-camrs/reviewers do .. excuses are weak
Sounds to me like you didn't properly uninstall the nvidia drivers and other issues are just generic Adobe issues. Don't blame the card for your own choices.
I had the same problem before with my 5700XT. Would have black screen, sometimes crash and computer restarts. I opened AMD adrenaline software tried tweaking some settings but still the same. Until I saw that my programs added in the home screen treated as games (Like you can see them as the recent games you played in adrenalin software). I removed them from the list and after that I have no crashes anymore. Everything works fine now. I don't know what that happened but it worked for me.
Are you saying that Adrenalin added (for example) premier pro, davinci resolve to the home screen of 'Adrenalin' and so by removing them all the instability went away as I presume Adrenalin was messing around with settings and playing the program like game, sorry to be so simple but just to make sure I'm understanding? That's really good to know....
Sad to hear that the newer cards (or drivers) behave the same as it happened to me but with RX 6700 XT in Windows 10 - the stop of video signal (blank screen) at random times even when using Excel. I use for editing HitFilm Express and any driver after 22.5.1 WHQL make the timeline freeze, rendering the program unusable. I recently found in the Reliability History that the video signal loss happened after Windows Update updated the video driver in the background. The workaround is to enable the 'Do not include drivers with Windows Updates' local policy. I must say I had no such issues when using the GTX 1660 OC card.
I've had Windows force their version of the driver for my 6700XT once before, it snuck in through update when I was actually doing a clean driver install manually for another issue. It made things dramatically worse... Some versions of their drivers are really bad. It's unfortunately a matter of finding a stable driver, and only updating every 6 months or so, to test fot the latest stable drivers
I've had problems like that editing when I had an AMD GPU, the software crashed, sometimes I lost the footage, and other annoying stuff, then I got the GTX 1060 in 2018 and never had any problems after that. AMD is amazing for gaming but if you are a content creator or use a GPU for professional workloads then Nvidia is a bit ahead when it comes to performance but also far ahead when it comes to compatibility and stability.
I expect but can´t say the reason, but I used Hitfilm to edit video, and it crashed with AMD on a regular basis... tested different drivers, tips & tricks... but it continued. To be noted, all AMD users did NOT experience the same issues.
I've got the same issues with 5700XT, it lasted for few month. Initial game tests by youtubers back then was something like it was on par with 2060S, and I got a bit dissapointing game results for few month. Later they updated drivers, and all the issues were gone, and performance boosted. Several updates later it was reaching 2070S performance in some games! I was shoked) Anyway, they have to make drivers at launch at least without issues you and me got, I understand that they need to collect many data from different systems to make it perfect, but laggy drivers at launch has to stop
I always heard people complain about AMD and I always purchased AMD cards that were at least 3 years old so the drivers were mostly fine at the point with an issue here and there, but for the first time ever I purchased a brand new 7900xt and then moved to windows 11 and it has been nothing but problems with the drivers... I even considered Nvidia again for the first time in 15 years.
@@einarabelc5 I actually solved it like a week ago or so, it seems when you update to win11 the bios goes from discrete to firmware gpu, I changed that from bios even AMD admitted there was a problem of that option moving from bios when updating but that fixed it for me, very few issues ATM for me at least, I feel there is some ministutter once and then but I think that is because I only have one 32gb memory stick in single channel.
I do TH-cam gaming videos, upgraded from a GTX1080 to the XFX 7900XT. Until the new driver that came out yesterday I didn't have any crashing issues, rolled back to the previous and now all is well again so I'm good on that front. When it comes to editing in Premiere pro it seems like motion graphics (mogrts) don't get any hardware acceleration or something. They playback way slower than my 1080 in the timeline and seem to take longer to render for export too. Inconvenient but I could probably live with it. But ultimately why I'm looking at switching to a 4080 now is the quality of game recordings using the hardware encoder. I have tried tweaking a bunch of settings but there often seem to be these weird artifacts in the recording around moving objects that I never noticed with my 1080 (which IIRC has a worse encoder than the 20X0 series onwards)
That's why creators are not technicians. Everything must work without touching anything. AMD needs to work on this, because it is needed some tweaks to get everything working perfect, for example, with codecs configured right on applications so they use the hardware.
It is recommended when you change the GPU on a PC, it is a must to restart it on safe mode, and use Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU), to completely remove all the configurations of the previous driver from the windows system.
From my experience , when going to AMD from Nvidia , you need to do a complete new windows .. have switch from the 2 brand 3 time in total , and always had issue (crash , bluescreen, instability etc) even after using DDU , and newest driver... and everytime i do a new windows every issue went away. Talking with friend they had similars experiences when switching to AMD, so maybe it could explain what happen with , would like to see a nother test from you with a fresh windows tho , cool video anyway.
@theTechNotice it has been this way from the beginning of time. Any time you switch from amd to Nvidia or even voodoo (back in the day), it required a reinstall of windows to be stable. It's the primary reason we always had the boot drive separate from the rest of our data.
@@theTechNotice from my experience with my wife pc ... When I first installed AMD GPU there was no problems and one day went and removed all Nvidia programs and got ton of issues.. The solution was to remove AMD adrenalin and re-install it and problem solved. so if moving from Nvidia to AMD try to uninstall all Nvidia drivers and programs before install AMD adrenalin for the first time ... The only Issue I was getting recently is green screen when using adobe photoshop ... I believe it has something to do with cable bandwidth, I notice when the screen resolution set to 1440P 240hz the colors move to 8bit instead of 10 bit and I believe photoshop is trying to force 10 bit color and that cause the green screen .. lowered the refresh rate to 120hz with 10-bit colors solved the issue (still using 240hz in gaming without any issues)
As a premiere user, every update is some new crash and weird behavior, and that's working on with AMD and Nvidia. same cards , same workflow and every time premiere update fix a thing then break a thing.
I wouldn’t want to lose the Nvenc encoder, much less any of these other problems. I really wish Nvidia had a competitor… unfortunately, they really don’t. I’m loving AV1, but my 2060 doesn’t support it. I’m considering populating the second PCI-E 16x with a cheap Intel Arc GPU for the hardware AV1 support.
Looking at benchmarks the amf h264 encoder was only 5% worse than nvenc in visual quality at the same bitrate. So i dont see how 5% is such a huge deal breaker
@@SystemParanoia and it’ll keep my 10900k in my system for years to come. Between the ARC and the 2060 (12gb version) my i9 won’t have a whole lot to do! Right now the CPU is handling the AV1 10bit encoding… let’s just say, it ain’t fast!😃
If you don't want to stop the crashes you need a clean reinstall of windows with the AMD GPU. It is known. Actually if you want properly evaluate this card you also need a clean windows install. You can't just swap de cards and reinstall drivers.
@@Deliveredmean42 windows and 11 in particular is setting up software optimization based on your hardware. This is also true for some CPUs (usage of different types of cores that will be stuck to whatever your previous CPU was, among other) Also there can be remaining of NVIDIA drivers conflicting with your AMD GPU (left there in purpose or not). You can also try to run DDU instead of clean reinstall of windows, it may work.
This day and age you need the 24GB XTX OC at least if going AMD GPU bro I don't know why you even thought the XT would be ok. I knew from day one that the XT was trash for everything. Especially when the XTX was literally £100 more or £300 more for the ASUS/MSI etc... and if you can afford the XT then you can afford the XTX.
There is a reason Nvidia holds 80% + GPU market share and I gladly pay 100-300 USD for Nvidia compared to AMD GPU with almost same performance because of the extra or better features. For example NVENC is superior to AMD for encoding both with editing and recording software and also NVENC is a dedicated chip. DLSS is lightyears ahead of FSR. GSync is superior to FreeSync. Nvidia also leading in RTX quality and performance. The driver support is more reliable in Nvidia. This does not mean AMD cards are bad, you can save that $300 and buy your self a beefy CPU if you just want to game in high frames without those fancy features as I have many friends who don't need those features and happy with their AMD GPU.
I've been criticizing Radeon's lackluster performance outside of gaming for ages. And every time AMD fanboys jump on me saying everybody buys graphics cards just to play games on their PCs.
I moved from a Radeon VII to this 7900 xt. I’m a Resolve user and I’ve found it to be generally excellent. Occasional crashes, but the 3 x 3090 Linux rig I also use crashes more often so I can’t complain. My Mac Studio is more stable, but obviously doesn’t offer 50 TFLOPS of raw GPU compute, and that matters when you start piling on the depth maps, Neat Video and AI keys.
I got the trouble same as this channel said when I change the graphic card from RX 560 to RTX 3080 but don't uninstall 100% the current GPU driver. And with AMD, it happens even when I haven't change the card but only the driver, if I don't remove the previous driver in the right way to make it 100% clear, AMD have a tool call "AMD Cleanup Utility" to do this job (I don't know if nVidia has the same one?!). When I'm not sure if it's clear or not, I have to reinstall the Windows to make sure. So when you change the graphic card in the same Windows system, make sure it (the previous driver) clear 100% if you'd like to run it smoothly. PS: I'm using Windows 11 Workstation now. I've never get this kind of trouble when I'm using Windows 10 Pro.
I went from 2080 Super to PowerColor Red Devil 6900XT and in Adobe and Windows I had same situations as you mentioned. I did clean DDU install few times, even I did install fresh WIndows and still the same problem so as much I loved everything about Red Devil 6900 XT I finally decided to sell it and go back to nvidia and all problems all gone.
@@edgyjorgensen3286 Yes for gaming without RT absolutley beast ( but I played few older games where frames dropped like crazy when switched back to nvidia - again back to normal ) also Red Devil was very quiet and cold and great design! it was really hard for me to sell it after not much long peroid of using it but like we say... gaming ok but everything else not...
I had the 7900xtx and for me my pc would freeze when running OBS. I never had the other issues just when I'm running OBS after about 2hrs or so it would freeze the PC. Most it did it was 3x in a row. I loved the card which is such a shame. I ended up going back to a 6900xt which never had that issue for me.
@saafff5465 I think it was a driver issue for the 7000 series. I've had a every model of the 6000 series and none of them gave me this issue. Heck I went back to the 6900xt a reference model at that and it works perfectly.
I have a genuine question about rendering in Premier Pro and you seem like the most knowledgeable person on TH-cam. I need to be able to export my just finished project and start working on my next project at the same time. I'm working on 2-5 projects a day. If I have multiple Nvidia cards in my PC, can I use one for the Adobe Media Encoder to handle the output and a second GPU for rendering in Premier Pro so I can keep working in my project and timeline? I have a 9900k and a 3070 Ti, and right now, when I start a new render in the Adobe Media Encoder, it runs in the background, but as soon as I start doing anything else with my PC, the render slows to a crawl until I stop doing anything else and just let the card do it's thing. I have no issue buying a second GPU to run my timeline if you think that will work to allow me to keep going on working and rendering at the same time.
@@fltfathin Turns out your are absolutely correct. I ended up solving this problem by using a Premiere team project, installing a 3060 to into a lightly used server, and then remote desktop into the server to render the project! Problem COMPLETELY solved.
@@fltfathin It was a great idea! You were the only person to respond, but you're going to save me hundreds of hours of rendering this year as I use a second PC to do the heavy lifting and I can continue editing now on my main PC.
I would be curious what Event Viewer showed as possible culprit during those sudden shut downs/screen blanking. Also when you changed video cards did you DDU the Nvidia drivers before switching the GPUs? DDU might prevent many errors if switching GPUs.
@@unavailable291 Maybe they did. Not every card behaves the same. There could be one odd combination of software even, that just causes problems... For me it's using VLC to watch video while browsing the web. If I have TH-cam open one side of the screen and VLC paused on the other, I'll get a black or green screen, it's just a matter of time... Even with different web browsers. VLC will always cause a driver crash with TH-cam
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@@Ben-Rogue this is on Windows I suppose? .... that sounds like a weird driver/software hiccup ... I've no such problems on Linux .... on my Win machine I run NVidia....
I have an rx 5700xt and in da vinci resolve the timeline Isn't that smooth and it seems like the cpu works more than the gpu because a lot of times my pa120se goes up to the max speed to keep the 5800x3D cooled
Seems from your stunned reactions, you are new to AMD black screens, migrated to 3080 from 5700xt in 2020 and never looked back, now having 4090 and enjoying every bit of it
I don't understand lmao, I have been using amd CPUs and GPUs for video editing without any problems. In Davinci Resolve performance is awesome. In the studio version I don't need to use any proxies or optimized media at all. RX 6700 XT just handles everything I throw at it.
For AMD, creators are second-class citizens after gamers, full stop. But it’s about time to see how Team-Blue is doing in this department after several driver updates (I refer to the Arc 700 series).
I'm freelancer and I have i5 12400 32GB Ram RX 6800XT. I did a lot editing on Reslove, Pr or even Ae and got the issues you have in the video. For personal experience, Nvida and Intel still great choice for creator. Waiting for 15th Intel CPU, I'll do a new high-end PC for editing.
So you said you had your system restarting a couple of times during the year and then it happened more when you installed the 7900xtx? because it seems like your system has a flaw, and you're blaming it on the GPU because it happened more times when using it, so that means that it triggered your problem and eventually, this will happen to you anytime in the future no matter what GPU you're using... you should have tested it on a different computer
That black screen issue happened a lot to me at work, it was driving me crazy, my editing workflow usually involves premiere pro and affter effects for some motion graphics in the secucuence and happened exactly that, black screen and the PC (ryzen 4400G Pro + RX570) restarts, so I swapped the gpu for and gtx 1650 super, installed studio drivers and everything is more stable now.
@@ChrisAlbertH47 well, not exactly my needs, I'm trying to convince my boss for an upgrade but that hasn't come yet... I was seeing instability issues so I wondered if an nvidia card and cuda acceleration could improve stability and speed in general so I had that 1650 lying around (is kinda equal to the rx570 the PC already had, bot have 4 GB vram) so I made the change and the problem of black screen+restar went away, also render time diminished in general and timeline speed improved, both premiere and after effects
@@kevynalssc Good to know. I have an old GTX 1080 and I was wondering if it would be enough to do some basic to intermediate video editing at 1080 to 4K. Nothing heavy or complicated.
@@ChrisAlbertH47 according to Adobe, at least 6 GB of vram are required to work with 4k in premiere so you're in good place with that 1080 (8 GB) and if you have the system ram (32 GB) you're good to go
What applications are you using, what type of work do you want to do with it and (if mainly video) what type of footage do you work with? Also, what’s your budget? Given the less powerful power supply, a 3060 12GB or 4070 should both run well. Some Arc A770 16GB models might, too but 1) really double-check the power requirements using one of the online calculators, like PCPartPicker and 2) be prepared for a widely differing experience depending on the application. For instance it has been working much better with the Premiere Pro 24 Beta 1 than Premiere Pro 23.6 and the Topaz Video AI upscaling has been a challenge. Also, if you are using Premiere Pro, a 12500 or 13500 come with a better iGPU than 12400 so that would improve your performance, too. Basically, the least expensive card that is good for video editing and doesn’t have any compatibility issues I have encountered would be the 3060.
I'm in the camp where I've had no issues with my AMD card, but I do hope AMD takes note of the driver issues some people have.
its when u alter display setting in ur card
@@trolldrumskerala firefox seems flawless so idk why is chrome preferred :/
@@xzm996 using all those google analytucs stuff, we need data
@@xzm996 if firefox keeps privacy marketers wont get exact data, its bad for sellers and consumers
its when u have high hopes from AMD
All I got from this is "we encountered random black screens but never actually figured out the issue"
That's weird I've never experienced that, probably he's overclocking the gpu lol
I’m thinking bad temps.
I had exactly the same issues with a radeon GPU, switched back to Nvidia - not a single issue, now I'm back with AMD, problems are back... it's just a shitty little system
@@aquss33what gpu u use
@@pusico6555 lol an editor overclocking or touching anything on the card, such a noob.
plus why he didnt used a RX6000 for more stability? its just edition lol
double rookie error, yeah this boy have no clue.
You should see people's replies when I talk about similar experiences with radeon gpus over the years. People act like I've insulted their mother.
🤣🤣
fanboys smh
😜😜😜😜
Yep. Those are the cows amd milk to get away.
😂😂😂😂😂
They definitely should start working with creators more, so if thinks are fixable in this gen or else next gen.. in short, it's unacceptable for AMD to ignore this market segment, specially since in gaming they've practically reached where Nvidia's at.
Premier works best with Nvidia, DaVinci if you're using an Radeon, but definitely agree that dev and component manufacturers should work together to resolve issues
Don't hold your breath. Their game drivers are just as bad, the newest ones are crashing all over the place in gaming. AMD has literally never had consistently stable drivers nor has it had consistently performant drivers nor has it had consistently compatible drivers.
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator Nvidia hasn't had consistently stable drivers either, nor have they been consistently secure .
AMD is not even in the same ballpark as Nvidia, and never has been.
@@jakehutchenscap bro
If system is shutting down that is usually indicative of a power supply issue.
It could also be overheating, or defective ram
I think he uses the same PSU with the 3090 ti before
Yeah this amd gpu use much power when full load u r right
Yup immediately thought the same. Amd will use more power and that is a clear indication of psu/no break (if existent) problem
@@mithumadhad7147 you like misleading people?
And this is why Nvidia feels like they can charge whatever they want. Once you factor in time lost and frustration from random issues it becomes more than whatever the difference in pricing was.
Yep...
so accurate
Sadly true cause look at next gen RTX 50 prices.
It's the dumbest decision, they're trying to beat NVIDIA at their own game instead of eating a huge part of their marketshare. "YEAH LET'S FOCUS ON FSR INSTEAD OF TRYING TO BEAT CUDA!!"
erm have you not heard of the random black screens Nvidia cards get?
Yeah as a 3d artsist, buying AMD is kinda sub par but as a gamer its great; i wish more reviewers did 3d/ video editor benchmarks with their cards
Should i get 4070 ti? Here 7900xt have same price as 4070ti but the vram..
I mainly use pc for working (render etc) but i want the best price to performace for gaming
@@novalovanGet a4000 or a6000.. If only for work!!
@@novalovanget 4080 lol. But yeah if you do renders there's no other choice but Nvidia.
should i get 7900xt or rtx 4070 ti super? I only doing adobe after effects/premiere for now. but I want learn davinci resolve. at my country, rx 7900xt is much cheaper
@@hong_1712 If its a whole lot cheaper then go for the xt becuase the 3070 doesnt have that much vram but also do your research first. The xt cards did seem to have some odd issues with premiere but i think they might be sorted after all these months/ year
I am the creator (Highway Engineer), working in CAD ( Autodesk Civil 3D) and using AMD pro Drivers, actually it works way better then NVIDIA, it is more stable then NVIDIA'S studio driver on CAD
trust me bro
Windows going to a black screen and restarting is in my experience a power supply issue
Do you believe it's more like power spike that amd gpu always had?
In games and very basic editing I have had zero issues with my 6800XT for the year I have had it. Alot of games and alot of hours no issues. That said, I can say I have lurked the professional production task conversations and nVidia definately still holds title as the card of choice for professional creators. In the past AMD adjusted pricing to be a better value for the 99% of us that do not need that feature set but now? This release? Not sure what their game is. If the 7900XT does not come down in price I will get a 4070ti when I see one on sale. AMD maybe is not all that concearned with this part of the GPU market but if they want to gain more marketshare they need to. I know they are kings when it comes to CPU marketshare and Consoles in the millions but GPU's are important too. I hope they decide to get more aggressive there but who knows if they will.
amd is so far behind with the 4090 its not even funny. in games and professional market
@@mexreax4493 professionally? Yes! In games, well if MW2 is your main game then you’re absolutely wrong! My 6800xt smacks that 4090’s ass!!! Ok ok I know it’s ONE game but love to shut up a nVidia fanboy! 😆
@@andyjoelharper3448 6800xt is nowhere near smacking a 4090 in warzone 2 or mw2
@@terraincognitagaming yes, I said that! What of it ? I know because I have a 4090 too. It is the only game that AMD surpasses in! 6800xt OC in 1080p! What you gonna my to do about it, punk!?
Thought so! Prove me wrong, @mupp33n!
The short answer is "Creators needs CUDA cores" As a fan of AMD and working with 3D graphic, animations and photogrammetry I was trying to use RADEONs but finally I had to give up. I can't run many programs on radeons because of lack of CUDA cores. It is not necessary fault od AMD. They have their own solutions but developers of the software often don't even try to make something compatible with AMD GPUs.
Yeah true amd just doesnt perform as well on stuff like blender, so id assume the performance gap is even bigger in something like solidworks, really unfortunate, but im only planning to use blender as a hobby and not as a job, so im personally not that affected, but yeah i get it.
Actually can you even use AMD for solidworks? Ive only ever seen it used with nvidia
Please mujhe koi btado konsa lena chahiye ??? Mene 3d rendering krni hai and video editing please suggest me 4070 16gb or rtx7900 24gb ??
@@JhanviKapoor-t9z Get the RTX 4070. You'll get better performance and stability out of the box with no hassle.
Thank you SO much for creative oriented hardware test videos and sharing your experiences... These are very important for someone like me who always on budget.
5:30 the part you mentioned about the video editing and the pc crashing and black screening was experienced by Paul (Not an Apple Fan) on the Techonomics Podcast. He’s mentioned this happened numerous times and switching to a RTX2080Ti was a much smoother process for video editing and preferred the Nvidia experience by faaaar!
I used to get this problem too with my Vega 64, but then it stopped and I have no idea why as nothing I'd tried to fix it worked.
@@TheAnon03 most of the time it's some third party SW.
It's a CPU bug it's a simple fix!!
@@zperdek yup a third party gave me a hard time too. I didn't know that you can make Davinci crash when Riva Tuner is in the background. I couldn't even create a timeline. Took me a while to figure out the culprit as the crash logs didn't tell much of a story.
The design aesthethic of this GPU is nice and clean... i love it!!!! The nvdia gpus look like it came out of some transformer kiddy movie.
So basically your power supply couldn't handle the new GPU load and your brain couldn't figure it out so your decided that oh GPU IS NEW IT MUST BE THE PROBLEM.
GLORIOUS thinking my friend.
The unfortunately reality is that for creators, Nvidia is the only choice when it comes to GPUs. I always want AMD to do well but every time it looks like they might be better, they manage to step on a rake. At this point I have more faith that intel will eventually offer an alternative to Nvidia than AMD will.
Same feeling, right now Intel doesn't have the hardware needed to compete, but they are working very well onto drivers, next serie will probably be a much more heavier strike onto the market
yea? I thought creator people like MacOS and Apple uses AMD GPUs?
@@seiyachan No. Creators need access to Cuda which is something only Nvidia can offer.
Not the only choice at all. It’s a herd mentality. I do agree that nVidia is the technology leader in a lot of ways, but their business practices are worse than Apple’s.
@@seiyachan Apple uses integrated GPUs now. They work quite well but don’t have the raw horsepower to compete with higher end discrete GPUs such as 4080s and 7900s
So basically, he doesn’t go to diagnose PC problems
He doesn't know how.
Average Nvidia customer.
I once had a 6900XT GPU from PowerColor. I had sooo many issues with it, that I sold it after a month of trying to fix the issues. I got a RTX 3080 and 0 issues. Just installed the card, installed the drivers and boom! Everything worked perfectly. Sorry but AMD drivers have a lot of catch up to do. People accused me of fanboy but oh no, fanboy I'm not.
I legit tried a 7900xt & ended up returning it, my money is better off with me until amd gets their act together.
@Martin Jones I agree
I have had similar experiences with my 5700xt either crashing in apps and games, and some times yes it just disappears. Been putting up with that for over 3 years, now I'm doing a complete rebuild. 4090 water force edition, 7950x, asus Prime x670e Pro wifi, 64gb @6400, Samsung 990 pro, 1200 watt. Thanks for your videos leading me in the right direction looking for the right parts. Also saved some money buying a windows 10 key with your discount 👌
I had a Nitro + 5700XT, one day it just quit putting out a display. 2070S been going for years and hasn't hiccupped.
holy overkill, but congrats bro. The crem de la crem
Don’t get 6400mhz ram, get 6000mhz because over 6000mhz halves the infinity fabric clock making performance drop quite a bit and stutters occur quite a lot
You may want to rethink that Samsung 990 Pro SSD. They're having a lot of premature wear / degradation issues with those.
You know I currently been using 6800xt with R9 5900x for UW 1440p Ultra for almost 2 years. No hiccups. Ran like a champ! Still playing MW2 with no problems and high fps. When I hear stories like this, I cringe. Either you're an nVidia fanboy and love to talk junk about AMD & their fandom. Or you got a crappy 5700xt with bad QA. Or you're lying! I had a palit 3060 around the same time I got the 6800xt. Worked great. For 3 months then KAPUT! It was light gaming! What a POS! Sorry you had to deal with a POS too. So, recently bought a new 3080, and it runs like a champ too. But AMD is still faster! Nvidia is way better at RT. Enough said. Good luck
Could it be the make? I am using the Gigabyte 7900XT and premiere pro and its running super well! No issues at all. My specs: Ryzen 9 5950x, MSI Carbon Max Wifi x570s, 4x32 Trident Royal Z Silver 3600 CL 16, HX1000i psu, firecuda 530 2tb firecuda 530 4tb XPG Gaming (Gen3) 2TB, MSI water cooler. Its great, using the LG UltraGear 27GN950-B. This is my first AMD system and the power is great for my creator needs.
And 1000W psu, kind'a one point that intentionally-or-not TechNotice did not check. If it is 'either it locks' (on small PSU) or it melts the connector (4090) - I would choose AMD and 1KW PSU. 🙂
It would be interesting to see if the latest pro drivers that they have for the 7900 XT resolves all of the complaints.
I’d be curious about that, too. I’m keeping a 4070 around for my 3D modeling but my 7800 XT experience was so good that it has replaced my 4070 for video editing.
@@perlichtman1562does it have any issues with davinci or is it smooth when scrubbing through timeline?
@@perlichtman1562which tools are u using? I am video editing myself and currently choosing between 4070, 7800xt or 7900xt
@@perlichtman1562 hi would u recommend the 4070 or the 7800xt for someone whos new to 3d rendering?
I changed out from an older rx 570 to a 6700 xt, and the performance bump was tremendous. I haven't had any issues with it. Perhaps it was a driver problem? Did you safe mode DDU the nvidia stuff before you loaded the adrenaline? That very well could cause a lot of the problems you're seeing.
He also may have an under-performing power supply unit in there, the 7900XTcan bang >400 watts in bursts, that'll cause weird stability-looking issues...
I also thought about this as soon as I saw the video pop up. A bad or clashing set of drivers make such a massive difference in performance!
Surprisingly my 5700G's Radeon iGPU have no issues so far. Davinci resolve works very smooth and stable. Maybe its an old Vega Architecture that's why. Btw Linus Sebastian (LTT) said that they never go with the latest gen of components for editing systems, they always go one generation back
Davinci is just much better coded than Premier. It's stable on everything :)
That’s true I have 6800xt but didn’t crash randomly.
When most popular company completed with ea
That’s happening 😂😂😂😂😂
davinci works much better with amd cards, problem is many people don't wanna switch if they already know premiere really well
Yeah, I can see you have no clue at 7:02. Rotating fans like this might cause negative voltage and damage your card! NEVER DO THIS! Who knows what you have damaged... It is possible this is why you had some blackouts.
I use the Sapphire 7900XTX and i am very happy. I know how and what tools to use. I do Blender and work on small games. Waiting for new Threadrippers ; ) Sad to hear that the gpu was not doing well for you. You can always send problems to AMD it is integrated in the driver. Would be nice when you can report Premiere crash.
A Threadripper is probably overkill for your workload. Currently, Blender prefers single thread performance for most operations, apart from sculpting and rendering (which isn't relevant if you use your GPU for rendering). As for game engines, having many cores improves compilation speed, but unless you are a programmer this isn't a bottleneck to your workflow.
All to say, a consumer chip with high single thread performance and a moderate core-count should be sufficient.
Do you have any crashes with games?
What is your overall experience with the RX 7900 XTX as a content creator now? Do you have any experience using it with Adobe softwares?
Yo bro, can you tell me more about your experience with the Sapphire 7900XTX, how it perfoms in creator tools like rendering, photo/video editing and also obviosly gaming (if you can) because I'm wondering to buy the Sapphire 7900XTX or the ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 4070 TI OC.
@@locinolacolino1302hey i wanted to ask, I wanna build a pc for game dev and gaming at 1440p and wanted to know if I should go with AMD cz of it's VRAM/price or Nvidia cz of people talk about stability and performance in work
SECONDLY should I go for AMD or Intel
I would like to see this looked at again. Its been 7 months and that's a lot of software updates.
So some of these issues might be fixed, So the GPU might be worth considering again.
I agree
i'm on rx 5700xt, and could use an upgrade soonish. but i'm reluctant to go into a radeon again, because the way it works with radeon is you buy the iron, and then you wait another year or two for amd to fix all the driver issues :/
I'm in the same boat as you.
Though I'm going back to team green since AMD doesn't care about creators & they always have driver issues with every new architecture.
Upgraded from 5700XT to 7800XT. The thermals, performance EVERYTHING is superior to the 5700XT. I didn't realize how terrible that card was until I upgraded. No more 110c hotspots neither.
Weird, I don't have any of those issues with a 7900XT, but I also don't use all those fancy tools, I just use shotcut and lossless cut with 3rd party codec packs.
I think all of your problems were Windows 11 problems or AMD drivers for Windows 11. I had the same problems and almost returned my cards but when downgrading to windows 10 all of those issues disappeared with the same drivers. Edit: wanted to share that these issues also happened with RX 6000 series and windows 11 -- but absent on Win 10.
Ok , but this thing cost almost 1000 dollar
I have similar instability issues after upgrading to W11. My desktop icons and wallpaper will occasionally flashes like it is being reload again.
W110 user.. have same issues with amd. Pubg 50 of time it goes black screen and i have to restart.. and rarely in other ggames. I had 0 issues in 4 years with nvidia rtx 2070
Adobe even said on there website windows 11 was not a secure system for there software
I had the 7900xtx and it was subpar in Davinci resolve. Some of my plugins like Dehancer refused to work with it. It also ran very hot due to it being reference design. Went and got a 4090 and everything just runs better off the bat. 4k timeline scrubbing and editing is super smooth even with multiple layers of effects.
I was thinking of getting that GPU for both gaming & 3D work, but unfortunately I heard too many bad stuff especially the unstable drivers at launch which AMD always mess up with every new GPU architecture.
I'm currently running a 5700 XT & I'm going to work my ass off to save up money for an RX 4070 Ti.
Along with a bios update of my mobo to upgrade to a Ryzen 9 5950X, as shown in the video & new PSU.
@@amrishpatel3501 It sucks, but for creators Nvidia is the only choice. I'm not a far of Nvidia personally but unfortunately there isn't any competition in this segment of the market so we are stuck going with Nvidia whether we like it or not.
@amrishpatel3501 I really wanted to give team Red a chance since im running a 5800x and am very happy with it. Unfortunately, the crashing and the amount of time trying to fix the 7900xtx heat issue that would reach 110 degrees was enough for me to go back to nvidia. You think nah, that could never happen to me but it did. Even considered buying a non reference 7900 xtx but the bad taste was already there. I'm no fanboy but the premium you pay for nvidia products became less of an issue after this.
@@MarkLargo AMD is pretty solid on the CPU side, I just wish they put that same level of quality and effort on their GPU side. I always want AMD to do well for GPUs but with every generation I'm hoping AMD will finally offer an alternative to Nvidia only for them to disappoint me.
@@MistyKathrine i wish amd had a control panel like nv
I have only one question: Do you guys used the Pro Drivers or the regular ones? 🤔
I too had a lot of problems while doing productivity using the regular Drivers. The moment I switched to the Pro once I had zero issues.
So Premiere Pro is a POS. And you ditched your card because premiere pro is a POS. nice move.
As someone that used a 6900XT for 3D characters and animations for 2 years (need alot of VRAM and at the time the 3090 was way to expensive) and switched to a 4090. It isn't about just the performance its about how far behind AMD is from Nvidia when it comes to drivers, software support etc. As soon as I installed the 4090 the software I have been using for years CC3+ and Iclone had a massive 5GB update that added soooo much stuff that made animations, and making characters soooo much easier. Now I am making scenes with 10+ characters on it running at 4k 60fps. I don't think I'll ever go back to AMD. They are just to far behind Nvidia.
We’re you using the game drivers?
@@_B.C_ no I was using their pro drivers
I'm planning to upgrade this year to a RTX 4070 Ti from an RX 5700 XT.
Though I have to do a bios update first on my X570 mobo to upgrade my CPU from a 3950X to a 5950X & also upgrade my PSU to handle the power of both. :)
@@amrishpatel3501 Whats your current PSU?
amd purposely hold back their drivers and slowly roll them out over a generations lifespan to give the illusion of the fine wine scenario
Have you tried replacing the card under warranty? Defective goods happen
I recently upgraded my old vega 56 with a 4070TI and I can confirm the random crashes on premiere pro on AMD graphics (especially when alt+tabbing to other apps)
Im currently running a frontier edition card and its stable as a rock and i do renderings and everything else.
Could be your PSU not up to scratch. Vega had very high transient power load which caused weaker systems to fail. 4070 is a terrible choice it barely has more vram headroom than your 4-5 year old gpu lmao./
@@N4CR This is EXACTLY true. I would have random crashes ONLY when running at max power. I replaced the PSU with a larger one and it never happened again.
@@N4CR I need a new PC. I wanted to go with an AMD GPU with at least 16GB vram but now this video made me thinking... I can't go above 2000 bucks for the whole build (Euros). 1500-1700 would be better, so I could buy me a nice monitor with the rig.
What do you think should I do >_> ? Take the L and go with the 4070ti or wait til prices drop and 4080 gets in range :/ ?
If we're speaking strictly about 5950x on X570 chipset, The settings below can help with stability and performance.
Set PBO Manual Stock PPT EDC TDC - No Curves, Scalar 1, Temp 75, Boost Auto \\ Same with PBO Advanced.
Also Set Advance PBO Boost to Negative offset of -150 to prevent boosting beyond 4900MHz For Stability. ( Don't touch core voltage. )
Disable Global PCI Mux and Core Isolation to gain a bit of performance. I use Project Hydra 1.8E to do that. 1.6F is still useful.
have you tried installing pro drivers instead of adrenalin for stability issues? idk if there is one for 7000 series tho, just saying in case you didn't know you can do that for gaming cards like 6000 series or even older cards..
Dosent work. 5700xt. Pro drivers.
Editing is nightmare on heavy footage and workloads he mentioned.
pro drivers doesn't improve performance really, just for stability in games and software like random closes and restart he got, it may do a better job than game ready drivers.
in your case see if disabling ULPS (Ultra Low Power State) with msi afterburner do any help. it can cause slow downs and even black screen for some users.
AMD is speccing their GPUs with reasonable VRAM quantities. Nvidia's cards all have 4GB less than they ought to.
Premiere crashing is unacceptable. I literally switch between game ready and studio drivers when I go to edit a video, because I notice Premiere crashes maybe once per 18 hours instead of once per 12 hours with the studio drivers vs the game ready ones.
Premiere crashing is a mess; even if you can get back into Premiere in 2 minutes, it's still a huge setback to crash and break your whole "flow" (for lack of a better word).
...unfortunately I can't just stick with the studio drivers because games microstutter when using it.
never thought id find you here of all places
Please mujhe koi btado konsa lena chahiye ??? Mene 3d rendering krni hai and video editing please suggest me 4070 16gb or rtx7900 24gb ??
Did You try using amd pro drivers ? Seems to solve all stability problems You mentioned.
The problem with Nvidia and ATI with drivers and registry , is when you switch, windows never deletes all files, create a conflict with software and hardware.. :(
DDU my friend, does what their uninstallers do not. I even use it when I do driver updates just to get rid of the old crap.
@@ricsim78 It sucks that you have to use another program and research this information. Their uninstaller should do exactly what DDU does. Hell when you install new drivers it should inspect your system for drivers from previous installations inform you that the older drivers can cause problems in your system then ask if you want to remove them.
@@CHA0SBLEEDS I agree with you, but thankfully there is something available that allows us to completely remove drivers. Before DDU, completely removing a GPU driver basically involved you reinstalling Windows. That or you can spend an hour going through the registry and trying to find orphaned files on your system, with chances high you would be missing something. Now it is a matter of minutes and requires a system restart.
A lot of software should be better than it is, and ALL programs and drivers should completely uninstall themselves. Unfortunately the people writing the software are usually pressed for time in a pro setting, so they do the bare minimum to get it functional so they can work on the next piece of software. Antivirus software has become better, but even they often need software uninstallers to completely remove.
@@ricsim78your comment reminded of how McAffee was on Win98 and WinXP💀
or you could switch to Linux (if your tool of choice is not Adobe related) and just enjoy super stable drivers from team red.... on Windows... not so much
It's not the GPU's fault. It's Premiere's bad programming, that they've used some Nvidia's proprietary feature without checking, if they are actually running on Nvidia.
Thank you for another great video based on pure facts. We need more creators like you!
I appreciate that!
It's just that RDNA3 is a new architecture, as always it takes a while for drivers to become optimized and stability improves. If you rely on it professionally, the smart move is wait a couple of months for it to mature.
This Bullshit practice of releasing products with the promise of "oh we'll fix it up in upcoming months" is a stupid trend.
Consumers really don't deserve this behaviour.
When you buy something you buy for it to work NOW.
I'd rather they take a few months extra to release but actual make it stable.
I had the black screen issue with GTX 970 mostly with HDMI port. But not with display port. Linus also mentioned how he had impossible to diagnose crashes, but finally it came out to be as simple as cable port bad connection.
Yep. I've had this problem with two AMD cards. Using a different port fixed most of my crashing issues.. Also, AMDs "Recommended" drivers are usually a lot more stable than the "Optional" ones, when it comes to black screens and the like
Linus pinus
@@Ben-Rogue Apparently, stick to "Recommended" and whatever each software vendor calls "stable" or "long term release" unless you are fully prepared to be a beta tester.
ain't a big content creator nor a professional, but i had a weird experience with AMD too.
Got a 6950xt like, two months before the 7000 release, and since first day i experienced unstabilities with it.
What's funny is that in-game the cards performs really well, i play with the aim to have as much frames and stability as possible, and it somehow achieved that. What's fuzzy is when you use the gpu in the most regular way : on windows desktop.
Black screens freezes, black screen crashes, driver crashs, white flashes, stutters for no reasons, and all that with sometimes really basic stuff like putting your cursor from a window to an other in the task bar, or just highlighting the effect when your mouse is on the closing icon window or reducing one. Even when watching videos or streams you have like a "epileptic madness" mode that appears and makes the screen flashing every 3 seconds, crazy to see trust me on my words.
GPU is going in the repair zone, i just hope they'll say it's not fixable so that i can get a refund and go for a 4070ti. AMD isn't for high-end/pro uses.
I think the problem lies more with Adobe software. In davinci the 7900xtx is fantastic.
thank you for this. you gave me hope lol I just bought a pc with this GPU, is I could work on Davinci hopefully it goes well for me too
@@P3ACE305bro how does it work in Davinci? Thinking of getting one and I use davinci
@@P3ACE305how it going, are things crashing or what’s happening. i’m thinking on buying
the 7900 xtx. thanks
How it go, are things crashy or wut happen with the 7900xtx if u buyed the card? Thax
@@P3ACE305 update us bro?
Since then I heard there where new updates on the drivers, you tried again to use it?
He won't try again he's just wanted to attack amd. Windows restarting because GPU? Premier oro crashing?I've never experienced that with stock amd settings. I don't believe him at all. Unless he's overclocking
@@pusico6555 it does happen on AMD as well as NVIDIA cards when a particular task takes tooo long on compute unit, driver times out as these cards were primarily meant for gaming and games don't cause that much compute delay ! it is know as TDR time outs . So either switch from graphics mode to compute or increase the tdr using reg edits. And sometimes AMD cards just go black and have to restart Driver with win +shift+ crt +b .
only 850W? broh, you need 1000+W for a high end GPU...your instable might cause by psu, and it's not like it haven't happened before.
6:32 If the PC is restarting this sound a lot like not enough power coming from the PSU...
I also had stability issues in blender with 6900XT and 7900XT instantly switched back to nvidia, I have an issue open that's now 1 year old on their gitlab... still no fix.
Blender is definitely the application where I had the worst experience with AMD cards so far - and the reason I keep a 4070 around. Oddly not the case in all applications trying to do similar things, though. For instance, particle systems in Blender are faster with Nvidia but running 3D particle systems in Particle Illusion standalone has been faster for me with both the Arc A770 16GB and 7800 XT than the 4070, even with really low VRAM usage, often shaving a minute or more off what were 7 minute renders with the 4070. I think it might be because of lower driver overhead because it was hard to get results that weren’t at least somewhat CPU limited in that application even on a 13900K.
Did you update the AMD CPU Chipset Drivers?
I'm no expert, but couldn't this be a problem due to poor power supply? Or some other incompatibility? Did you try this video card in other setups? Is this information current as of February 2024? Other users also had this problem?
idk man i have no choice, others do
I had the crashing issues described with a 5700 xt. The issue turned out to be brief power spikes. Upgrading my psu resolved the issue.
Been running a 7800 XT on a 1200W PSU. I wonder if that was why I didn’t have similar issues?
@@perlichtman1562 I had an 850 which I thought was more than enough but the power spikes despite being very brief were 600 watts on the card alone which would trip the PSU overvolt protection
Long term users should not be surprised by the persistent support from Nvidia, regarding software compatibility and reliability in the professional sphere. Nvidia was one of the first vendors to provide complete OpenGL ICD support way back with RiVA 128 and TNT, not just some miniGL layer for the Quake-based games.
Yeah great, fanboy! No open source? Gee whiz no thanks:p Nvidia only cares about their profit margins so I’m surprised about this “persistent support from NVidia.”
@@andyjoelharper3448 Of course they are doing it to make money, no one doubts that they are greedy af (just like most companies) and aren't doing this from the good of their hearts. Either way, they provide great support and are on top of fixing all issues within weeks. I couldn't care less why they give this support, the fact is that I gave them my money for a gpu so I expect it to work without issues on their end. Can't say that for AMD *yet*.
I hate nvidia for many reasons but I have to admit the drivers work properly.
@@andyjoelharper3448 Nvidia did release an open source driver I think in 1999 for the Riva 128 and the TNT. Problem was they included SGI's software renderer as part of the driver and were hit hard by SGI for it and could no longer distribute the driver. Not sure if that may have been part of the reason why nvidia was hesitant to release open source again or not, but I did use that driver when it released back then on a Riva 128.
I just got a 7800 XT, and I'm having issues with Lightroom freezing on my while making adjustments to RAW photos. It freezes so hard, I have to go into the task manager to shut it off then reopen, when it'll freeze again in a minute or so. Very strange. Not sure if it's the GPU or not though.
Have u figured out what was the problem, and did you swith to pro drivers or not?
@@AbdulrahmanRashid-u9r No, but after a few more lightroom updates, it seemed to fix itself, so probably just a Lightroom bug. I don't know what a Pro driver is.
Does it have the same issues with Davinci Resolve?
To be honest I create and 3d model martial arts weapons for a company here in the UK and went with 7900XT for the odd bit of gaming I'm loving it
Are you doing 3d modeling with it?
@@Ghostlynotme445 yes
@@Denzsy how is it?
how is it after 7+ months?
Please mujhe koi btado konsa lena chahiye ??? Mene 3d rendering krni hai and video editing please suggest me 4070 16gb or rtx7900 24gb ??
Just out of curiosity, did you submit a "Bug Report" via their driver?
That seems to be the only way AMD listens to issues, and fixes them.
can it be that it is Adobe's fault as well? I meen, really, why is always the drivers?
@@crisantiberiu4633 AMD still needs to be proactive and not reactive though.
This is why Nvidia was able to dominate the scene. They were proactive enough, whilst injecting their addictive proprietary CUDA on any prominent software development.
AMD needs to be more proactive and/or play dirty like Nvidia if you want to see more competition...
@@rick_takahashiI just do not see AMD caring about consumer GPU’S beyond gaming, otherwise they would actually try harder.
@@AwankO that would be hard to do if most of Nvidia proprietary CUDA has been embedded on most software.
It would make sense for them to target gamers first, get some marketshare and actually hold it. Ryzen didn't swallow Intel in 1 generation.. it took multiple consecutive generations.
@@rick_takahashi I mean I think they don't care about it, the software side of things is a harder nut to crack than the hardware. They need to promote their GPUs more toward content creators on TH-cam, Twitch, and Discord if AMD truly wants to get into the content creation market.
Idk but did you use ProDrivers or consumer ones? I had the same problem. Immidiet shutdown and drivercrash but with prodrivers, not even a once.
Please do the same with Arc A770. Also make a video on how these GPUs and CPUs deal with AV1.
Or you can do it
I need to know that one as well!
@@user-jh1mq2ih2u The problem is that I live in another country, and there is no place where I can order the Intel ARC GPU. So, I need someone who can run the test and show us the results before we order the product.
@@Gamundi08 plenty of videos on TH-cam plenty of articles on line
@@Gamundi08 and trial
And error order it just like other TH-camrs who don’t get the free stuff .. but it and do your review and return it you have to just like other starting TH-camrs/reviewers do .. excuses are weak
Sounds to me like you didn't properly uninstall the nvidia drivers and other issues are just generic Adobe issues.
Don't blame the card for your own choices.
I had the same problem before with my 5700XT. Would have black screen, sometimes crash and computer restarts. I opened AMD adrenaline software tried tweaking some settings but still the same. Until I saw that my programs added in the home screen treated as games (Like you can see them as the recent games you played in adrenalin software). I removed them from the list and after that I have no crashes anymore. Everything works fine now. I don't know what that happened but it worked for me.
Are you saying that Adrenalin added (for example) premier pro, davinci resolve to the home screen of 'Adrenalin' and so by removing them all the instability went away as I presume Adrenalin was messing around with settings and playing the program like game, sorry to be so simple but just to make sure I'm understanding? That's really good to know....
@@CapaUno1322 Yes exactly Adrenalin was treating the programs as if they were games.
Great video. You're not a fanboy so mad respect for the analysis.
Sad to hear that the newer cards (or drivers) behave the same as it happened to me but with RX 6700 XT in Windows 10 - the stop of video signal (blank screen) at random times even when using Excel. I use for editing HitFilm Express and any driver after 22.5.1 WHQL make the timeline freeze, rendering the program unusable.
I recently found in the Reliability History that the video signal loss happened after Windows Update updated the video driver in the background. The workaround is to enable the 'Do not include drivers with Windows Updates' local policy. I must say I had no such issues when using the GTX 1660 OC card.
I've had Windows force their version of the driver for my 6700XT once before, it snuck in through update when I was actually doing a clean driver install manually for another issue. It made things dramatically worse... Some versions of their drivers are really bad. It's unfortunately a matter of finding a stable driver, and only updating every 6 months or so, to test fot the latest stable drivers
I switched last year to Mac and feeling good not having issues with premiere pro with the 8K raw videos
I've had problems like that editing when I had an AMD GPU, the software crashed, sometimes I lost the footage, and other annoying stuff, then I got the GTX 1060 in 2018 and never had any problems after that. AMD is amazing for gaming but if you are a content creator or use a GPU for professional workloads then Nvidia is a bit ahead when it comes to performance but also far ahead when it comes to compatibility and stability.
2018 called: it wants its helpful anecdotes back.
I expect but can´t say the reason, but I used Hitfilm to edit video, and it crashed with AMD on a regular basis... tested different drivers, tips & tricks... but it continued. To be noted, all AMD users did NOT experience the same issues.
I've got the same issues with 5700XT, it lasted for few month. Initial game tests by youtubers back then was something like it was on par with 2060S, and I got a bit dissapointing game results for few month. Later they updated drivers, and all the issues were gone, and performance boosted. Several updates later it was reaching 2070S performance in some games! I was shoked) Anyway, they have to make drivers at launch at least without issues you and me got, I understand that they need to collect many data from different systems to make it perfect, but laggy drivers at launch has to stop
Yeah the Fine Wine is a old problem that still exists
I always heard people complain about AMD and I always purchased AMD cards that were at least 3 years old so the drivers were mostly fine at the point with an issue here and there, but for the first time ever I purchased a brand new 7900xt and then moved to windows 11 and it has been nothing but problems with the drivers... I even considered Nvidia again for the first time in 15 years.
Then you sillies get no product. You don't realize what the Internet has done to computing yet have you?
@@KAILOONE it sounds like they start from scratch for every generation then.
@@einarabelc5 I actually solved it like a week ago or so, it seems when you update to win11 the bios goes from discrete to firmware gpu, I changed that from bios even AMD admitted there was a problem of that option moving from bios when updating but that fixed it for me, very few issues ATM for me at least, I feel there is some ministutter once and then but I think that is because I only have one 32gb memory stick in single channel.
I do TH-cam gaming videos, upgraded from a GTX1080 to the XFX 7900XT. Until the new driver that came out yesterday I didn't have any crashing issues, rolled back to the previous and now all is well again so I'm good on that front.
When it comes to editing in Premiere pro it seems like motion graphics (mogrts) don't get any hardware acceleration or something. They playback way slower than my 1080 in the timeline and seem to take longer to render for export too. Inconvenient but I could probably live with it.
But ultimately why I'm looking at switching to a 4080 now is the quality of game recordings using the hardware encoder. I have tried tweaking a bunch of settings but there often seem to be these weird artifacts in the recording around moving objects that I never noticed with my 1080 (which IIRC has a worse encoder than the 20X0 series onwards)
That slow mograt is because back then it was cuda accelerated no open cl optimization . And it sucks
Premier is cuda optimizing, cuda is nvidia propietary. its not AMD failure, but the developer choice
That's why creators are not technicians. Everything must work without touching anything. AMD needs to work on this, because it is needed some tweaks to get everything working perfect, for example, with codecs configured right on applications so they use the hardware.
It sounds like a power issue, how much does your power supply deliver?
It is recommended when you change the GPU on a PC, it is a must to restart it on safe mode, and use Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU), to completely remove all the configurations of the previous driver from the windows system.
From my experience , when going to AMD from Nvidia , you need to do a complete new windows .. have switch from the 2 brand 3 time in total , and always had issue (crash , bluescreen, instability etc) even after using DDU , and newest driver... and everytime i do a new windows every issue went away.
Talking with friend they had similars experiences when switching to AMD, so maybe it could explain what happen with , would like to see a nother test from you with a fresh windows tho , cool video anyway.
Hmmm... interesting... what's the thinking/reason behind that?
@theTechNotice it has been this way from the beginning of time. Any time you switch from amd to Nvidia or even voodoo (back in the day), it required a reinstall of windows to be stable.
It's the primary reason we always had the boot drive separate from the rest of our data.
@@theTechNotice from my experience with my wife pc ... When I first installed AMD GPU there was no problems and one day went and removed all Nvidia programs and got ton of issues.. The solution was to remove AMD adrenalin and re-install it and problem solved. so if moving from Nvidia to AMD try to uninstall all Nvidia drivers and programs before install AMD adrenalin for the first time ...
The only Issue I was getting recently is green screen when using adobe photoshop ... I believe it has something to do with cable bandwidth, I notice when the screen resolution set to 1440P 240hz the colors move to 8bit instead of 10 bit and I believe photoshop is trying to force 10 bit color and that cause the green screen .. lowered the refresh rate to 120hz with 10-bit colors solved the issue (still using 240hz in gaming without any issues)
@@estoylisto Either your monitor o cable needs upgrade.
As a premiere user, every update is some new crash and weird behavior, and that's working on with AMD and Nvidia. same cards , same workflow and every time premiere update fix a thing then break a thing.
I wouldn’t want to lose the Nvenc encoder, much less any of these other problems. I really wish Nvidia had a competitor… unfortunately, they really don’t. I’m loving AV1, but my 2060 doesn’t support it. I’m considering populating the second PCI-E 16x with a cheap Intel Arc GPU for the hardware AV1 support.
Looking at benchmarks the amf h264 encoder was only 5% worse than nvenc in visual quality at the same bitrate. So i dont see how 5% is such a huge deal breaker
@@SystemParanoia and it’ll keep my 10900k in my system for years to come. Between the ARC and the 2060 (12gb version) my i9 won’t have a whole lot to do! Right now the CPU is handling the AV1 10bit encoding… let’s just say, it ain’t fast!😃
@@rickbrookes9491 If you really want fast, Intel's 13th gen is worth looking at for an upgrade.
How is the 2060? Performing wise im planning to use it as a temporary GPU until i can afford a high end one..
If you don't want to stop the crashes you need a clean reinstall of windows with the AMD GPU. It is known.
Actually if you want properly evaluate this card you also need a clean windows install. You can't just swap de cards and reinstall drivers.
So what's the point of 'upgrading' parts if you have to redo everything? 🤔
@@theTechNotice to not get a f_ed performance?
Why not? That's should be a normal thing to upgrade a gpu! Why do you need a clean windows install when you upgrade a GPU? Somethings off here.
@@Deliveredmean42 windows and 11 in particular is setting up software optimization based on your hardware. This is also true for some CPUs (usage of different types of cores that will be stuck to whatever your previous CPU was, among other)
Also there can be remaining of NVIDIA drivers conflicting with your AMD GPU (left there in purpose or not). You can also try to run DDU instead of clean reinstall of windows, it may work.
@@Deliveredmean42 dont forget these are two private companies in competition, so if they have a way to screw the other they will use it
This day and age you need the 24GB XTX OC at least if going AMD GPU bro I don't know why you even thought the XT would be ok. I knew from day one that the XT was trash for everything. Especially when the XTX was literally £100 more or £300 more for the ASUS/MSI etc... and if you can afford the XT then you can afford the XTX.
true i agree, pick the best instead
There is a reason Nvidia holds 80% + GPU market share and I gladly pay 100-300 USD for Nvidia compared to AMD GPU with almost same performance because of the extra or better features. For example NVENC is superior to AMD for encoding both with editing and recording software and also NVENC is a dedicated chip. DLSS is lightyears ahead of FSR. GSync is superior to FreeSync. Nvidia also leading in RTX quality and performance. The driver support is more reliable in Nvidia. This does not mean AMD cards are bad, you can save that $300 and buy your self a beefy CPU if you just want to game in high frames without those fancy features as I have many friends who don't need those features and happy with their AMD GPU.
I've been criticizing Radeon's lackluster performance outside of gaming for ages. And every time AMD fanboys jump on me saying everybody buys graphics cards just to play games on their PCs.
Would AMD Radeon PRO card for workstations give the same experience or be improved for creators?
Don't know have to test it :)
This channel is heaven for creator's
😇👍
I moved from a Radeon VII to this 7900 xt. I’m a Resolve user and I’ve found it to be generally excellent. Occasional crashes, but the 3 x 3090 Linux rig I also use crashes more often so I can’t complain. My Mac Studio is more stable, but obviously doesn’t offer 50 TFLOPS of raw GPU compute, and that matters when you start piling on the depth maps, Neat Video and AI keys.
I got the trouble same as this channel said when I change the graphic card from RX 560 to RTX 3080 but don't uninstall 100% the current GPU driver. And with AMD, it happens even when I haven't change the card but only the driver, if I don't remove the previous driver in the right way to make it 100% clear, AMD have a tool call "AMD Cleanup Utility" to do this job (I don't know if nVidia has the same one?!). When I'm not sure if it's clear or not, I have to reinstall the Windows to make sure. So when you change the graphic card in the same Windows system, make sure it (the previous driver) clear 100% if you'd like to run it smoothly.
PS: I'm using Windows 11 Workstation now. I've never get this kind of trouble when I'm using Windows 10 Pro.
Were you using pro drivers? Or adrenaline drivers?
I went from 2080 Super to PowerColor Red Devil 6900XT and in Adobe and Windows I had same situations as you mentioned. I did clean DDU install few times, even I did install fresh WIndows and still the same problem so as much I loved everything about Red Devil 6900 XT I finally decided to sell it and go back to nvidia and all problems all gone.
Different cards but I had the same experience. Switched to AMD and for gaming it was generally fine. For everything else however… 👀
@@edgyjorgensen3286 Yes for gaming without RT absolutley beast ( but I played few older games where frames dropped like crazy when switched back to nvidia - again back to normal ) also Red Devil was very quiet and cold and great design! it was really hard for me to sell it after not much long peroid of using it but like we say... gaming ok but everything else not...
You were using a 850w bequiet 80+ titanium... My gawd man! What were you thinking :-D
got the same but my pc doesn't crash. But I have a better psu on my list to get soon.
I had the 7900xtx and for me my pc would freeze when running OBS. I never had the other issues just when I'm running OBS after about 2hrs or so it would freeze the PC. Most it did it was 3x in a row. I loved the card which is such a shame. I ended up going back to a 6900xt which never had that issue for me.
so it s a thing related to 7000 series or driver... because a know many many people use 6800xt o 6900xt for editing with no problem
@saafff5465 I think it was a driver issue for the 7000 series. I've had a every model of the 6000 series and none of them gave me this issue. Heck I went back to the 6900xt a reference model at that and it works perfectly.
I have a genuine question about rendering in Premier Pro and you seem like the most knowledgeable person on TH-cam. I need to be able to export my just finished project and start working on my next project at the same time. I'm working on 2-5 projects a day. If I have multiple Nvidia cards in my PC, can I use one for the Adobe Media Encoder to handle the output and a second GPU for rendering in Premier Pro so I can keep working in my project and timeline? I have a 9900k and a 3070 Ti, and right now, when I start a new render in the Adobe Media Encoder, it runs in the background, but as soon as I start doing anything else with my PC, the render slows to a crawl until I stop doing anything else and just let the card do it's thing. I have no issue buying a second GPU to run my timeline if you think that will work to allow me to keep going on working and rendering at the same time.
better off having 2nd pc to do the background encoding IMO, idk about premier but davinci have remote render server thingy to handle the "export"
@@fltfathin Turns out your are absolutely correct. I ended up solving this problem by using a Premiere team project, installing a 3060 to into a lightly used server, and then remote desktop into the server to render the project! Problem COMPLETELY solved.
@@fltfathin It was a great idea! You were the only person to respond, but you're going to save me hundreds of hours of rendering this year as I use a second PC to do the heavy lifting and I can continue editing now on my main PC.
3950x and 7900xt but only 850 W PSU?
I would be curious what Event Viewer showed as possible culprit during those sudden shut downs/screen blanking. Also when you changed video cards did you DDU the Nvidia drivers before switching the GPUs? DDU might prevent many errors if switching GPUs.
Yes, DDU-d all Nvidia soft+drivers :)
@@theTechNotice you didn’t, I had been using my 7900xt with topaz ai / handbrake 24/7 for more than 42 days… 0 issues.
@@unavailable291 Maybe they did. Not every card behaves the same. There could be one odd combination of software even, that just causes problems... For me it's using VLC to watch video while browsing the web. If I have TH-cam open one side of the screen and VLC paused on the other, I'll get a black or green screen, it's just a matter of time... Even with different web browsers. VLC will always cause a driver crash with TH-cam
@@Ben-Rogue this is on Windows I suppose? .... that sounds like a weird driver/software hiccup ...
I've no such problems on Linux .... on my Win machine I run NVidia....
@ Yep, on Windows
It would be good to do a follow to see if the updated drivers fixed these issues.
Are you that naive to believe that AMD drivers will be fixed...
@@ozmobozo seems like they already did...looking fwd to an updated review.
@@tubasweb well my 6600 is still a mess soo
I have an rx 5700xt and in da vinci resolve the timeline Isn't that smooth and it seems like the cpu works more than the gpu because a lot of times my pa120se goes up to the max speed to keep the 5800x3D cooled
Seems from your stunned reactions, you are new to AMD black screens, migrated to 3080 from 5700xt in 2020 and never looked back, now having 4090 and enjoying every bit of it
I fell for 5700xt reviewers shilling too. RMA'd it and bought 2070 super in a month of blackscreens and crashes - had zero problems since.
The black screen is a premium feature, not a bug.
😂😂 it's the new OP4HWOL feature.. offscreen, pause for healthier way of life
@@deuswulf6193it can turn any screen into an oled for a few milliseconds great feature.
Disable fast boot, all 5700XT issues vanish.
Thank u so much for sharing your experiences.
This sounds more like an Adobe Premier issue than it does an AMD gpu issue. Does this happen in other editing software?
I heard davinci resolved is more stable than adobe
@@Wylabn I don't use Adobe but I use Resolve and it's pretty stable on my AMD gpu.
I don't understand lmao, I have been using amd CPUs and GPUs for video editing without any problems. In Davinci Resolve performance is awesome. In the studio version I don't need to use any proxies or optimized media at all. RX 6700 XT just handles everything I throw at it.
For AMD, creators are second-class citizens after gamers, full stop. But it’s about time to see how Team-Blue is doing in this department after several driver updates (I refer to the Arc 700 series).
I'm actually rooting for Team Blue to answer the call for creators since AMD continues to ignore that market.
Well being that this is a gaming GPU I guess that is acceptable. They do have graphics cards for professionals.
@@hatemadness But computer graphic sector always utilize gaming card better than professional card
@@chewcm3507 correct me if I am wrong. But wasn't he talking about Adobe premiere pro? Isn't that a editing software?
As far as I know Video editing does not benefit much from professional card as well
I'm freelancer and I have i5 12400 32GB Ram RX 6800XT. I did a lot editing on Reslove, Pr or even Ae and got the issues you have in the video. For personal experience, Nvida and Intel still great choice for creator. Waiting for 15th Intel CPU, I'll do a new high-end PC for editing.
So you said you had your system restarting a couple of times during the year and then it happened more when you installed the 7900xtx? because it seems like your system has a flaw, and you're blaming it on the GPU because it happened more times when using it, so that means that it triggered your problem and eventually, this will happen to you anytime in the future no matter what GPU you're using... you should have tested it on a different computer
I sure hope the 6750 xt wont have these issues because I am definitely going to use it in my next build
The 6000s series is very stable when compared to the new 7900xt and xtx
That black screen issue happened a lot to me at work, it was driving me crazy, my editing workflow usually involves premiere pro and affter effects for some motion graphics in the secucuence and happened exactly that, black screen and the PC (ryzen 4400G Pro + RX570) restarts, so I swapped the gpu for and gtx 1650 super, installed studio drivers and everything is more stable now.
A gtx 1650 is good enough for your video editing needs? What kind of work do you do?
@@ChrisAlbertH47 well, not exactly my needs, I'm trying to convince my boss for an upgrade but that hasn't come yet... I was seeing instability issues so I wondered if an nvidia card and cuda acceleration could improve stability and speed in general so I had that 1650 lying around (is kinda equal to the rx570 the PC already had, bot have 4 GB vram) so I made the change and the problem of black screen+restar went away, also render time diminished in general and timeline speed improved, both premiere and after effects
@@kevynalssc Good to know. I have an old GTX 1080 and I was wondering if it would be enough to do some basic to intermediate video editing at 1080 to 4K. Nothing heavy or complicated.
@@ChrisAlbertH47 according to Adobe, at least 6 GB of vram are required to work with 4k in premiere so you're in good place with that 1080 (8 GB) and if you have the system ram (32 GB) you're good to go
@@kevynalssc Yes, I do have 32 GB of RAM. Thanks for the info.
What gpu should i buy for i5 12400 and corsair cv650?
What applications are you using, what type of work do you want to do with it and (if mainly video) what type of footage do you work with? Also, what’s your budget?
Given the less powerful power supply, a 3060 12GB or 4070 should both run well. Some Arc A770 16GB models might, too but 1) really double-check the power requirements using one of the online calculators, like PCPartPicker and 2) be prepared for a widely differing experience depending on the application. For instance it has been working much better with the Premiere Pro 24 Beta 1 than Premiere Pro 23.6 and the Topaz Video AI upscaling has been a challenge. Also, if you are using Premiere Pro, a 12500 or 13500 come with a better iGPU than 12400 so that would improve your performance, too.
Basically, the least expensive card that is good for video editing and doesn’t have any compatibility issues I have encountered would be the 3060.
@perlichtman1562 what do you think about 13600k is better for workstation also I'm planning to buy 12400f and upgrading to 13600k