The presenter has a remarkable ability to explain complex aviation topics to non-experts. His presentations make me wish I could book flights where he is captain. This also makes me wonder whether the general public can find out the safety records of individual pilots before taking a flight.
12:41 He says starter cut out. How ever that is the voice recorder tick sound. Not the starter cut out. Starter cut out is when start valve open light extinguishes!
The cockpit may have its usual 60s technology but with a bit of an upgrade to 80s to current technology with those screens. Sort of like in star trek to star trek tng tech. :)
William Jones-Halibut - As far as i know it is not because of the screens, but to make room for the FMS keypad and screen. Initial 737-100/200’s did not have that luxury back in the days.
Patxi's wife, Molly, is looking after the kids by herself while lucky old Patxi is still celebrating, dancing about, smoking tiny cigars and looking very pleased with himself!
The Boeing 737 Max's reputation is now badly damaged just like the Douglas DC10's in the 1970s when the DC10 suffered some serious / fatal accidents due to a combination of design flaws, technical problems, maintenance errors, and pilot errors.
Tubmaster 5000 - I think that’s better than the other way around. You can’t control public opinion, put you can control the technical issues. When they start flying again, most people who have qualms will get over it.
supertrix101 - Despite it’s reputation, the DC-10 remained in service for many years after its early troubles. People flew on it - even those like me who didn’t like it, because it took us where we needed to go. I feel much better about the 737 Max than I did about the DC-10. The Max is an excellent aircraft which had one horrible defect. It’s been fixed and it’s time to move on, in my opinion.
It's always good coming from someone who know whats the actual situation is or who understands what could be the possible outcome.. The media says anything and everything
Brilliant video and explanation of the cockpit instruments. I admit that should the airline we use start the max in service I'd rebook for an another alternative..........unless you were the captain 😎👍
I personally would feel very safe on the Max when it comes back into service. After all the fixes and inspections by aviation experts the 737Max aircraft will probably be the safest aircraft in the sky. There is absolutely no way Boeing would allow one more of their aircraft to go down because they know they would never recover and all the airlines would take their business to Airbus. So I personally feel the 737max will be the safest aircraft in the sky, Boeing simply can not afford one more crash to happen or it's over for them. When the 737max comes back I will happily fly on one and I would feel safe putting my family on one.
Boeing’s 737 is only the *most successful and safest* jet aircraft series in history. But hey, you DO get a little more hip room on an A320.... Media conjecture and hyperbole do not make for an unsafe aircraft! Operators pushing malfunctioning aircraft into continued service = problems. Operators pushing for minimalist ‘Difference Training,’ will inevitably get what they paid for.
I love planes and I absolutely adore your videos. The cadence of your voice makes very complex information easy to understand :) thank you for all your videos :)
I saw a A350 cockpit video. And now... When I see the 737 cockpit even the Max. Seems a very old. I kinda liking more Airbus now, I have been a huge Boeing FAN. But the A350 is just fantastic!
Flying an airplane is not like driving a car! Driving license is for life, pilot license has to be maintained, periodical checks are needed. New plane or new cockpit means new Type Rating, e.g training e.g. time and money. And nobody wants to spend money. For this reason looks MAX as older 737 to be flown with the same type rating. And also, aviation is quite conservative becase every screw, literally, has to be certified which costs again lot of money and time. New cars are made every 5 years, planes are in service for 30 years and 60.000 to 150.000 flight hours.
This sure ain’t the same as a P3 Orion cockpit that I worked on as an avionics tech in the early 70s. I really enjoy your videos. I have flown on many different types of aircraft, fixed wing and rotary wing, traveling around Alaska for my job.
@mipmipmipmipmip Most of these simulators are actually built in Canada by CAE. Boeing really doesn't build simulators themselves. At least not for commercial applications.
"Can you take the simulator for a quick spin around the block?" - Difficult. They've moved the indicator lever, so until Petter finds it, he won't be able to let other planes know when he's turning left or right.
This aircraft has gone under more scrutiny than any other aircraft has. However, I completely understand why. The good news is now that the aircraft has been cleared to be put into service in the USA and Europe, it will be the safest aircraft in the sky bar none!
This aircraft doesn't even have an Engine Indicating and Crew Alerting System (EICAS) which is mandatory since years for new planes but got lobbied away somehow. No, this absolutely is not the safest plane and it definitely never will be as Boeing already made clear that they never ever will upgrade the 737 MAX cockpit to current safety standards.
I was wondering why the EGT was noticeably higher during engine start. Then I noticed the TAT +99C! Man that’s hot! Gotta love simulators cause there’s no way in hell I would ever work or live anywhere that hot!
Great video, love those cockpit videos! And congrats to the puppies! Now I want a video of Mentour on his sofa, surrounded by all his puppies, trying to get his attention ;-) Or a bunch of puppies in the cockpit - although I am afraid this is not allowed, not even in the simulator.
True, a bit surprising... But the other thing that really surprised me was "There are other aircraft in the sim"? And then the details of them too, so you did surprise me with that one Mentour :D
A note: the MOTORING segment of the CFM-LEAP startup is typically faster (a few seconds). The reason why the FADEC motors the engine longer in this case was because the engine was still hot from the previous shutdown (EGT initially shows 196 deg), and needs to cool down first to reduce the chance for a Hot Start
Hi mentour! Great video the new 4 screen layout was taken off the Dreamliner? And also to be implemented into the 777X I believe. Seen a lot of the 787 screens to recognise! Great vid hope boeing sort the 737M out soon!
Interesting but to be honest, to my passanger's mindset this planetype would need also structural redesigning not just software changes before I would be ready to fly with it.
Very interesting & interactive video awesome videos are coming these days just love to sath this channel awesome .....No pilot except captain joe makes so intresting videos like you I hope some day you both can collab and make some interesting video on Boeing.
Could you please talk about the economics of the planes being grounded? I mean this is a very expensive equipment rendered unoperational for it’s commercial user. How do Airlines and Boeing deal with that?
She is a beauty and the best part is that she uses a yoke, not a joystick. That is much more ergonomic as far as using the left hand for landings for right handed pilots.
@@iScoTT29 it does fly naturally despite the change in characteristics due to the new engines. The fault in software during both crashes was allowed to persist all the time. There's a good reason why the trim cut out switches are installed even current gen 737s, and they were there since the 1950s if I'm absolutely correct else close to that era, and during that time trim faults and including jams were faced and the pilots then successfully handled the aircrafts with ease. Trim issues happen with many aircrafts even today due to other faults, just as any other common faults such as depressurization, flameouts, etc. You just can't judge a plane that's totally dangerous to fly just because you allow it to fly itself while the autopilot starts to pay roller coaster Progressively in clear skies. That's more of premature pilot error than the aircraft itself, if the mission was to save the passengers than to save the comfort for flying. Refer to late Captain Warren Vanderburgh's brilliant lectures and documentaries for further explanation. The pilots of his era were eating donuts while successfully man-handling jets with mechanically jammed controls. Honestly but with respect you can't conclude this in the way you just said about the aircraft. If it was that important to have perfectly immune aircrafts, then you wouldn't even step on any aircraft ever. It's just lil dirty games with huge impacts going on from what I see worldwide.
@UC77VyAIczYqmhMDd8lc_maA That is my point. The captain uses the yoke to control pitch and yaw during the critical landing approach. It should be noted 90% of mankind are right handed and thus so are 90% of the pilots.
You can totally see the conditions around the MAX's development reflected in the flight deck. Kind of, still 60's design up top, with some new tech jammed in, looks like it was designed in a hurry, and without a single coherent design philosophy. Which perhaps payed to why it ended up like this.
@@superskullmaster There is some cockpit video of the MAX (I think KLM? "NH airtime" or something) I made pretty much the same comment about 2 years ago. It's still there...
Jack Perry - That’s completely wrong. A great deal of thought goes into flight deck layout. Boeing’s approach is conservative. Generally, they stick with what is familiar and what works well. When significant changes are made to the human interface, it is only after a long design process and for good reasons. Using screens for display is flexible whereas special-purpose indicators are not. The screens are probably also more reliable than the gauges.
@@GH-oi2jf The screens are more reliable. They are also more legible and cost efficient, being less prone to malfunctions than the old analogue counterparts. But if that is true then why keep the old switches up top? Why not overhaul the whole layout to fit the new modern safer philosophy? Probably because that would mean pilots had to undertake new massively expensive type ratings. Which is why I said the rushed and hasty release of the plane is reflected in the flight deck.
@@jack.p If Boeing were to make too many changes like that, then it becomes a difficult aircraft requiring a different type certificate, and pilots would have to get retrained to acquire the new type rating. Airlines don't want to pay for that kind of training, and wants pilots to be able to fly different 737 versions if needed without getting confused about where the new guy's buttons are now at. Airlines want their fleets to be as consistent as possible for this reason, and also for maintenance reasons, especially the parts supply chain. Who wants to buy parts to have on hand, only to have wasted money having to add additional stock and eventually toss the previous version's parts. Plus, training for the aircraft technicians has to be taken into account. Long story short, there are good reasons for the sameness. When Boeing builds a brand new aircraft model, the latest tech goes in them.
That is such an uneducated comment to make, the cockpit is barely different they just made some simple easy changes to screens and other things etc so it’s not like it was jammed in because they were quite simple also it has nothing to do with the crashes, the reason the planes crashed was because the Mcas malfunctioned causing the plane to pitch down uncontrollably and the pilots were unaware that they could fix it by flicking the stab trim switches, the cockpit design does not come into any of that
You could have shown the stab trim cut-off switches, since they've been changed from the NG and they're involved in the whole MCAS situation Very nice video nonetheless, still nowhere near as cool as the CS/A220 cockpit but a good refresh...just looking at the cockpit you wouldn't say it's a 60+ years old plane
@@trenesdecolombiaPabloHiguita they've been changed in function. On the NG each one did a different part of cutting out electric stab trim control (one was for the autopilot side of thing, the other for the electric trim on the yoke). On the MAX now they both cutoff everything, and one is the primary and the other is just the backup. It's pretty crucial in the whole ET302 case if you've read the report
i cannot wait for the max to be in the skies again i live here in singapore and i see some 737 max being grounded and im sad how beautiful of an aircraft but is being grounded
A leading cause of death is being unable to handle the situation of newly exposed hidden edge cases within the uncompensated parameters that arise AS A RESULT OF TOGGLING AUTOPILOT ON OR OFF. (mostly, OFF) I.e. Air France 447 -- could have continued to fly _through the storm_ with AP ON and flight parameters resulting only from compensational feedback loop.
@@GVTSounds You're right about 447 *with an old aircraft only* but I am referring to the fix - i.e. flying a Boeing 828 with AP1, AP2, AP3, ((AP4)), RP1, ((RP2)) and AP3, AP4 have redboxed physical locality and flight sensors on isolated power, and AP3 cannot be disengaged unless Emergency is declared. If the plane is able to execute a disallowed procedure (while not in declared Emergency and before control by AP3 and RP1 or RP2 OR AT ANY TIME by RP2 and AP3 or AP4) without arresting the pilot, it means that the procedure was never specified to begin with.
I flew Boeings and buses (a320 and 747s) and Boeing's cockpits always stood head and shoulders above airbuses. quality , design , feel and finish. Airbuses with their plastic covers and huge panel gaps always felt like some third grade cheapness. Its like comparing Bentley and Kia.
My biggest concern is that when Boeing has already said ohh its totally safe! And then you are grounded indefinitely because there were actually something wrong with the plane! I’m sorry but I would never want to fly on a max8! It might be safe, but I don’t have any faith in Boeing! So yeah Boeing is going to be the textbook example of how not to handle PR emergencies.
You Know I would have definitely been much more open about the issue, I wouldn’t have been so slow to address the issues. Secondly the instance regulators all around the world start grounding the plane, Boeing is in talks with regulators all around the world. They knew that the plane was going to be grounded days before it happened! They should have taken that decision that would have signaled that they take Safety as their number 1 priority. But no they kept saying it’s safe and safest plane along with The FAA. And then all the information came around Boeing self certification, and FAA actually didn’t do their job. And meanwhile all this is happening Boeing is still not addressing the extreme loss of trust in them, continuing business as usual. They didn’t probably hide anything but because of their behavior towards the problem it looks like they are hiding issues from the public! And just trying to make it all go away! There are multiple papers from experts and professors in marketing stating the exact same thing this is the thing NOT to do. And it will be taught as a worse case scenario in schools! on what not to do in a PR emergency.
Common Sense - You have to remember these crashes happened at airlines in parts of the world considered not the safest in the world. So a proper understanding of the problem was required before doing anything. Grounding aircraft is not done unless it is really neccessary. The regulators grounded the MAX due mostly due to public pressure and the media spreading wrong information and scare stories.. The Airbus 330 that Air France crashed, technical malfunctioning probes and pilot error.. no media frency, no grounding.. almost as many killed..
@@ACPilot The Airbus 330 had 18,870 flying hours, at the time of the crash and was 4 years old. Lion Air Flight 610 was delivered 13 August 2018 and crashed 29 October 2018 with only 800 hours of flight time! Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 was delivered on delivered on 15 November 2018 and crashed On 10 March 2019 making it only 4 months old. We are talking about brand new airplanes that crashed because of the exact same reason. So your argument that because it happened in countries that aren't regarded as the safest in the world, is pretty arrogant considering this was Brand new planes. Your claim that it was public pressure and false information that caused the Grounding, is just plain ignorant when there keep coming information out that there are problems and they are fixing them. But this answer wasn't about the crashes but more about the absolute PR disaster that Boeing has landed them self in. A lot of the damage that has been done to Boeing is because of their handling of the entire situation.
Even parked at the gate, the simulator looks so life-like!
The presenter has a remarkable ability to explain complex aviation topics to non-experts. His presentations
make me wish I could book flights where he is captain. This also makes me wonder whether the general
public can find out the safety records of individual pilots before taking a flight.
Safety record? Like how many fatal crashes they've had in the past? 😅
12:41 He says starter cut out. How ever that is the voice recorder tick sound. Not the starter cut out. Starter cut out is when start valve open light extinguishes!
1 crash for every 11 million flights kid, calm down @@surideedesigns
As an aspiring pilot, thank you for a glimpse into the future of my career. Your videos are always very well explained and easy to keep focused.
what stage are you at now
The cockpit may have its usual 60s technology but with a bit of an upgrade to 80s to current technology with those screens. Sort of like in star trek to star trek tng tech. :)
Hondalover3000 - It works really well, and it is a joy to fly..
@@ACPilot Ok cool.
William Jones-Halibut - As far as i know it is not because of the screens, but to make room for the FMS keypad and screen. Initial 737-100/200’s did not have that luxury back in the days.
The screens resolution and graphics quality looks more like an 80th Amiga Commodore at best... Not like 21st century.
auronoxe - It is a cockpit, not a TV.. 😂 Very nice displays, better layout and newer than on the A320 NEO..
Thumbs up for the puppies by the end!
Patxi's wife, Molly, is looking after the kids by herself while lucky old Patxi is still celebrating, dancing about, smoking tiny cigars and looking very pleased with himself!
Best informative flight channel 👍
Some of the biased channels on the MAX can get tiring. Appreciate your pure unbiased position when seeking info.
Very very safe plane. Now that it's grounded.
Unfortunately, the technical problems are probably easier to fix than the lack of public confidence.
The Boeing 737 Max's reputation is now badly damaged just like the Douglas DC10's in the 1970s when the DC10 suffered some serious / fatal accidents due to a combination of design flaws, technical problems, maintenance errors, and pilot errors.
@@ysfsim uniformed median ???
Tubmaster 5000 - I think that’s better than the other way around. You can’t control public opinion, put you can control the technical issues. When they start flying again, most people who have qualms will get over it.
supertrix101 - Despite it’s reputation, the DC-10 remained in service for many years after its early troubles. People flew on it - even those like me who didn’t like it, because it took us where we needed to go. I feel much better about the 737 Max than I did about the DC-10. The Max is an excellent aircraft which had one horrible defect. It’s been fixed and it’s time to move on, in my opinion.
Big thing is most public can't tell and 800ng from an max 8.
"it's not like I'm just randomly starting an engine" hahaha :D
Thanks for the video. Congrats for the puppies! It seems to me those puppies will grow and become parents before the Max 8 flies again.
@Steve it sure has
Thanks for this cockpit video of B737 MAX with some additional updates.
Last time I was this early, the 737 max was still flying
The doggies are cute!!!! Thanks for the videos always awesome
Molly's got babies! Awwwww! What does Patxi think of them! So sweet! Boys or girls? You got a houseful now, Petter! Congrats!
Paxti & Molly are so considerate to allow Petter to talk about planes on their doggie channel.
@@SpamMouse lol, indeed!
As always another fantastic video ! 👍💯👌
The NG is great. But still can't wait to get my hands on the max!
It's always good coming from someone who know whats the actual situation is or who understands what could be the possible outcome.. The media says anything and everything
As soon as I saw the announcement of some Paxti-action I jumped right to the end of the video. Sorry Mentour, but these dogs are just too adorable :)
All cool and beautiful display
Brilliant video and explanation of the cockpit instruments. I admit that should the airline we use start the max in service I'd rebook for an another alternative..........unless you were the captain 😎👍
I personally would feel very safe on the Max when it comes back into service. After all the fixes and inspections by aviation experts the 737Max aircraft will probably be the safest aircraft in the sky. There is absolutely no way Boeing would allow one more of their aircraft to go down because they know they would never recover and all the airlines would take their business to Airbus. So I personally feel the 737max will be the safest aircraft in the sky, Boeing simply can not afford one more crash to happen or it's over for them. When the 737max comes back I will happily fly on one and I would feel safe putting my family on one.
Boeing’s 737 is only the *most successful and safest* jet aircraft series in history. But hey, you DO get a little more hip room on an A320....
Media conjecture and hyperbole do not make for an unsafe aircraft!
Operators pushing malfunctioning aircraft into continued service = problems.
Operators pushing for minimalist ‘Difference Training,’ will inevitably get what they paid for.
Your puppies are simply adorable. I truly enjoy watching your channel.
Where's the Chemtrails On/Off switch? :D
🤣🤣🤣
Engine Master Switches: Chemtrail-Engine on = Producing Chemtrails. Side effect is thrust being generated :o)
Its on the aft overhead next to the 'excite gullibility' switch.
The CTU (chemical trail unit) engages automatically when you fly over your current mother in law or any ex-wife.
It is controlled from the ground and defaults on.
It’s finally back in the air 😁😁
Thanks for a great video Mentour Pilot !
Thank YOU for watching
I love planes and I absolutely adore your videos. The cadence of your voice makes very complex information easy to understand :) thank you for all your videos :)
I saw a A350 cockpit video. And now... When I see the 737 cockpit even the Max. Seems a very old. I kinda liking more Airbus now, I have been a huge Boeing FAN. But the A350 is just fantastic!
The A350 has a spaceship cockpit. I hate it when it doesn't look like an aircrafts flightdeck.
Leonardo Corrales - Boeing have always been conservative about changes to the controls. That’s a good thing, in my opinion.
Flying an airplane is not like driving a car! Driving license is for life, pilot license has to be maintained, periodical checks are needed. New plane or new cockpit means new Type Rating, e.g training e.g. time and money. And nobody wants to spend money. For this reason looks MAX as older 737 to be flown with the same type rating. And also, aviation is quite conservative becase every screw, literally, has to be certified which costs again lot of money and time. New cars are made every 5 years, planes are in service for 30 years and 60.000 to 150.000 flight hours.
This sure ain’t the same as a P3 Orion cockpit that I worked on as an avionics tech in the early 70s. I really enjoy your videos. I have flown on many different types of aircraft, fixed wing and rotary wing, traveling around Alaska for my job.
I have watched ice pilots DC3 4 .
Can you take the simulator for a quick spin around the block?
@mipmipmipmipmip Most of these simulators are actually built in Canada by CAE. Boeing really doesn't build simulators themselves. At least not for commercial applications.
"Can you take the simulator for a quick spin around the block?" - Difficult. They've moved the indicator lever, so until Petter finds it, he won't be able to let other planes know when he's turning left or right.
Puppys are so sweet.
This aircraft has gone under more scrutiny than any other aircraft has. However, I completely understand why. The good news is now that the aircraft has been cleared to be put into service in the USA and Europe, it will be the safest aircraft in the sky bar none!
This aircraft doesn't even have an Engine Indicating and Crew Alerting System (EICAS) which is mandatory since years for new planes but got lobbied away somehow. No, this absolutely is not the safest plane and it definitely never will be as Boeing already made clear that they never ever will upgrade the 737 MAX cockpit to current safety standards.
I love the design and winglets of 737 max
I know!!! It's a beautiful airplane!
I was wondering why the EGT was noticeably higher during engine start. Then I noticed the TAT +99C! Man that’s hot! Gotta love simulators cause there’s no way in hell I would ever work or live anywhere that hot!
"The new engines are great, but they're quite delicate". Well, that's reassuring! 😂 Just kidding, I knew what you meant!
oohh the puppies!
Great video, love those cockpit videos!
And congrats to the puppies! Now I want a video of Mentour on his sofa, surrounded by all his puppies, trying to get his attention ;-)
Or a bunch of puppies in the cockpit - although I am afraid this is not allowed, not even in the simulator.
Wait, what?! Patxi is a dad?! Congratulations to Patxi and Molly!
Patxi, Molly and the puppies - what a beautiful family! 💚
Cute pups.
Nice video your my favourite captain
Mentour accidentally showed the airline livery. Realizing his mistake, he quickly turned his camera away. Haha.
Siddharth Pathak What time?
Never mind, found it at 13:40
Christopher Taylor obviously he works at Ryanair
s125ish Norwegian isn’t it?
True, a bit surprising... But the other thing that really surprised me was "There are other aircraft in the sim"?
And then the details of them too, so you did surprise me with that one Mentour :D
I've always liked the 737 cockpit
A note: the MOTORING segment of the CFM-LEAP startup is typically faster (a few seconds). The reason why the FADEC motors the engine longer in this case was because the engine was still hot from the previous shutdown (EGT initially shows 196 deg), and needs to cool down first to reduce the chance for a Hot Start
even with fake engine noise on start. very nice
Keep up the good work Petter! Already liked as you’ve set such a high standard.
I've always wanted to pull back on the reverse thrust; that must be an assuring feeling!
It helps take pressure & heat wear & tear on brakes in main gear.
Amazing captain! Greetings from Argentina!
The dogs are so cute!
Hi mentour! Great video the new 4 screen layout was taken off the Dreamliner? And also to be implemented into the 777X I believe. Seen a lot of the 787 screens to recognise! Great vid hope boeing sort the 737M out soon!
The 777x will also have touchscreens.
I was here for updates about dogs and now I know everything about the 737MAX.
Interesting but to be honest, to my passanger's mindset this planetype would need also structural redesigning not just software changes before I would be ready to fly with it.
Quite agree
Great video Mentour i enjoyed it, hope you are having a good Summer.
Beautiful puppies. Glad all are doing well. 😍
Nice video. Interesting to see the time needed for the engine to start. Thanks. Beautiful puppies! :) Greetings from Norway.
Omg I love that new logo with the animation at the beginning!
We need a full podcast just on the dogs :)
Love your explanations Fantastic, thank you so much for the time you give us explaining things, I love it, it is really amazing.
love your channel, really informative and interesting!
Thanks keep this good stuff up!
What wonderful puppies you now have! Good luck with that and to the dear dogs too ;) I am thoroughly enjoying your channel! Good luck with it all!
1:55 space shuttle status. 😂
I’ve flown on the max over half a dozen times nice aircraft very smooth
I won’t be impressed until the dash has a coffee dispenser.
Hahaha! True! I shall bring that forward.
It should be a required safety feature. Just make sure that nobody puts decaf in it. ☕ 😊
Very interesting & interactive video awesome videos are coming these days just love to sath this channel awesome .....No pilot except captain joe makes so intresting videos like you I hope some day you both can collab and make some interesting video on Boeing.
Could you please talk about the economics of the planes being grounded? I mean this is a very expensive equipment rendered unoperational for it’s commercial user. How do Airlines and Boeing deal with that?
Good question. I’m wondering about that too.
And what happens to the pilots who don't get to do any flying.
M Von Smallhausen well if the airline had the NG they’ll be flying that. But if not then no idea
Boeing must to pay a very big money for the airline or very good offer the free service for long times !
They take heavy losses and have to rely on company assets to lighten the damage (savings, sell other planes, layoffs, etc)
Really good video as always. Good explanation and c,ear.
Let’s hope it’s safer even it returns to service
Love the new intro graphics!
She is a beauty and the best part is that she uses a yoke, not a joystick. That is much more ergonomic as far as using the left hand for landings for right handed pilots.
What’s the point in the yoke if the heap of shit can’t fly. Lmao
@@iScoTT29 it does fly naturally despite the change in characteristics due to the new engines. The fault in software during both crashes was allowed to persist all the time. There's a good reason why the trim cut out switches are installed even current gen 737s, and they were there since the 1950s if I'm absolutely correct else close to that era, and during that time trim faults and including jams were faced and the pilots then successfully handled the aircrafts with ease. Trim issues happen with many aircrafts even today due to other faults, just as any other common faults such as depressurization, flameouts, etc.
You just can't judge a plane that's totally dangerous to fly just because you allow it to fly itself while the autopilot starts to pay roller coaster Progressively in clear skies. That's more of premature pilot error than the aircraft itself, if the mission was to save the passengers than to save the comfort for flying.
Refer to late Captain Warren Vanderburgh's brilliant lectures and documentaries for further explanation. The pilots of his era were eating donuts while successfully man-handling jets with mechanically jammed controls.
Honestly but with respect you can't conclude this in the way you just said about the aircraft. If it was that important to have perfectly immune aircrafts, then you wouldn't even step on any aircraft ever. It's just lil dirty games with huge impacts going on from what I see worldwide.
But where do you then eat your meals? Or fill out paperwork?
@UC77VyAIczYqmhMDd8lc_maA That is my point. The captain uses the yoke to control pitch and yaw during the critical landing approach. It should be noted 90% of mankind are right handed and thus so are 90% of the pilots.
@@zoperxplex read what I said again. The opposite is true. Watch mentor even flying. He's mainly using his left hand on the yoke.
Fascinating machine. I hope never seeing it drop down the skies it did for the last few years.
You can totally see the conditions around the MAX's development reflected in the flight deck. Kind of, still 60's design up top, with some new tech jammed in, looks like it was designed in a hurry, and without a single coherent design philosophy. Which perhaps payed to why it ended up like this.
@@superskullmaster There is some cockpit video of the MAX (I think KLM? "NH airtime" or something) I made pretty much the same comment about 2 years ago. It's still there...
Jack Perry - That’s completely wrong. A great deal of thought goes into flight deck layout. Boeing’s approach is conservative. Generally, they stick with what is familiar and what works well. When significant changes are made to the human interface, it is only after a long design process and for good reasons. Using screens for display is flexible whereas special-purpose indicators are not. The screens are probably also more reliable than the gauges.
@@GH-oi2jf The screens are more reliable. They are also more legible and cost efficient, being less prone to malfunctions than the old analogue counterparts. But if that is true then why keep the old switches up top? Why not overhaul the whole layout to fit the new modern safer philosophy? Probably because that would mean pilots had to undertake new massively expensive type ratings. Which is why I said the rushed and hasty release of the plane is reflected in the flight deck.
@@jack.p If Boeing were to make too many changes like that, then it becomes a difficult aircraft requiring a different type certificate, and pilots would have to get retrained to acquire the new type rating. Airlines don't want to pay for that kind of training, and wants pilots to be able to fly different 737 versions if needed without getting confused about where the new guy's buttons are now at. Airlines want their fleets to be as consistent as possible for this reason, and also for maintenance reasons, especially the parts supply chain. Who wants to buy parts to have on hand, only to have wasted money having to add additional stock and eventually toss the previous version's parts. Plus, training for the aircraft technicians has to be taken into account. Long story short, there are good reasons for the sameness. When Boeing builds a brand new aircraft model, the latest tech goes in them.
That is such an uneducated comment to make, the cockpit is barely different they just made some simple easy changes to screens and other things etc so it’s not like it was jammed in because they were quite simple also it has nothing to do with the crashes, the reason the planes crashed was because the Mcas malfunctioned causing the plane to pitch down uncontrollably and the pilots were unaware that they could fix it by flicking the stab trim switches, the cockpit design does not come into any of that
superb vlog sir, ❤
Wow you survived a 737 max
Love that cockpit. Really looking forward to see this bird finally get back into service.
Fascinating video, as always, Petter. But no way in the warm place am I ever flying on one, no matter what they do to fix it.
Thank you So much for uploading this video
You could have shown the stab trim cut-off switches, since they've been changed from the NG and they're involved in the whole MCAS situation
Very nice video nonetheless, still nowhere near as cool as the CS/A220 cockpit but a good refresh...just looking at the cockpit you wouldn't say it's a 60+ years old plane
For the stab trim cut-ff switches, please see 13:57 .
The stab trim cut off have been in the same place since original B737s.. and still in the Same place in the MAX
@@trenesdecolombiaPabloHiguita they've been changed in function. On the NG each one did a different part of cutting out electric stab trim control (one was for the autopilot side of thing, the other for the electric trim on the yoke). On the MAX now they both cutoff everything, and one is the primary and the other is just the backup.
It's pretty crucial in the whole ET302 case if you've read the report
Nav freq displax changed in the pedestal
Well done as always
i cannot wait for the max to be in the skies again i live here in singapore and i see some 737 max being grounded and im sad how beautiful of an aircraft but is being grounded
so crashing isn't really important to you. I want them bunged in a pile and blown up. FFS
@Steve ?
It's a heap of horse shit
Pupper made more puppers!!! How cute!!
And now it's just a very expensive car.
Yay always love new content
Check it out, whether you can switch the engine display to the FO's side, when the Captain is flying, that's the question which arises to me!
You can, just like on 787 :) i know some airlines has sop that it's the pilot flying having the Big ND, and pilot monitoring having ND/Engine
Great Mentour thank you looks amazing !
Always excited to watch your videos captain 😎
Might have missed it if you mentioned it, but you can switch the engine instrument over to the FO and have the big nav display on CPT side.
Thank you very much, It s very nice twin seat Coffin lol. This cockpit will be gone by 15 minutes after take off.
Thank you so much for all your explainations and work!
Maybe the reason for the EGT overheat was the 99°C TAT
I love your videos - keep the coming!
A leading cause of death is being unable to handle the situation of newly exposed hidden edge cases within the uncompensated parameters that arise AS A RESULT OF TOGGLING AUTOPILOT ON OR OFF. (mostly, OFF)
I.e. Air France 447 -- could have continued to fly _through the storm_ with AP ON and flight parameters resulting only from compensational feedback loop.
@@GVTSounds You're right about 447 *with an old aircraft only* but I am referring to the fix - i.e. flying a Boeing 828 with AP1, AP2, AP3, ((AP4)), RP1, ((RP2)) and AP3, AP4 have redboxed physical locality and flight sensors on isolated power, and AP3 cannot be disengaged unless Emergency is declared. If the plane is able to execute a disallowed procedure (while not in declared Emergency and before control by AP3 and RP1 or RP2 OR AT ANY TIME by RP2 and AP3 or AP4) without arresting the pilot, it means that the procedure was never specified to begin with.
How does this dude ever sleep? He makes INCREDIBLE content, has his own app, is a pilot, has a wife, kids, a dog... Unbelievable
I flew Boeings and buses (a320 and 747s) and Boeing's cockpits always stood head and shoulders above airbuses. quality , design , feel and finish. Airbuses with their plastic covers and huge panel gaps always felt like some third grade cheapness. Its like comparing Bentley and Kia.
Nice Office!
I want you to make your one day pilot life
Congrats on the puppies!
Not a single mention of MCAS??
Thanks again for flying Boeing
My biggest concern is that when Boeing has already said ohh its totally safe!
And then you are grounded indefinitely because there were actually something wrong with the plane!
I’m sorry but I would never want to fly on a max8!
It might be safe, but I don’t have any faith in Boeing!
So yeah Boeing is going to be the textbook example of how not to handle PR emergencies.
Common Sense - How would you have handled it?
You Know I would have definitely been much more open about the issue, I wouldn’t have been so slow to address the issues.
Secondly the instance regulators all around the world start grounding the plane, Boeing is in talks with regulators all around the world.
They knew that the plane was going to be grounded days before it happened!
They should have taken that decision that would have signaled that they take Safety as their number 1 priority.
But no they kept saying it’s safe and safest plane along with The FAA.
And then all the information came around Boeing self certification, and FAA actually didn’t do their job.
And meanwhile all this is happening Boeing is still not addressing the extreme loss of trust in them, continuing business as usual.
They didn’t probably hide anything but because of their behavior towards the problem it looks like they are hiding issues from the public!
And just trying to make it all go away!
There are multiple papers from experts and professors in marketing stating the exact same thing this is the thing NOT to do. And it will be taught as a worse case scenario in schools! on what not to do in a PR emergency.
Common Sense - You have to remember these crashes happened at airlines in parts of the world considered not the safest in the world. So a proper understanding of the problem was required before doing anything. Grounding aircraft is not done unless it is really neccessary. The regulators grounded the MAX due mostly due to public pressure and the media spreading wrong information and scare stories..
The Airbus 330 that Air France crashed, technical malfunctioning probes and pilot error.. no media frency, no grounding.. almost as many killed..
@@ACPilot The Airbus 330 had 18,870 flying hours, at the time of the crash and was 4 years old.
Lion Air Flight 610 was delivered 13 August 2018 and crashed 29 October 2018 with only 800 hours of flight time!
Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 was delivered on delivered on 15 November 2018 and crashed On 10 March 2019 making it only 4 months old.
We are talking about brand new airplanes that crashed because of the exact same reason.
So your argument that because it happened in countries that aren't regarded as the safest in the world, is pretty arrogant considering this was Brand new planes.
Your claim that it was public pressure and false information that caused the Grounding, is just plain ignorant when there keep coming information out that there are problems and they are fixing them.
But this answer wasn't about the crashes but more about the absolute PR disaster that Boeing has landed them self in.
A lot of the damage that has been done to Boeing is because of their handling of the entire situation.
Great video! I'm going to be a pilot in the near future and i really enjoy your videos, keep it up👌
Would have have loved to see the procedure to disable the MCAS !
Stab Trim to cutout or just Flaps 1 will do.