Great stuff! Currently flying the 787, I couldn't help but notice certain procedures between the two types are somewhat similar. Also, I think I speak for a majority of your viewers when I say we deeply appreciate the dedication and effort you put into your videos. Thank you!
787 is a relatively new animal for Boeing; but lots of “Design Language” and “Operational Philosophies” transfer amongst corporate model ranges. This is true with MANY industries.
That is not surprising. Manufacturers tend to keep relative similarities between models, to my knowledge. Though the 787 is far more advanced, it doesn't mean that the cockpit has to be vastly different, either. It's definitely not a case of Boeing vs Airbus.
I would love to see more emergency landing sims, this was chilling to think of as a passenger but to see how the professionals handle these situations is very impressive
Aren't the emergency vehicles built to go UNDER the wings of most of the larger planes? Yes, it's been years since I've flown, but that was what I was thinking, the way the sim made the truck race by so close to the plane.
@@KECOG on the bigger aircrafts, maybe, but on a 737, I highly doubt that, but I' m not 100% sure. In fact, the 737 wings are pretty low, the truck would be the size of a car...
Been in a similar situation as a passenger years ago - bird ingestion into an engine, on a transatlantic flight. Ended up flying from Krakow to Warsaw, had to circle around for an hour to burn off fuel. Never seen so many firetrucks in my life. Ever since I make sure I board the plane in a state of borderline alcohol paralysis.
@@GuyFromTheSouth I was only a passenger, but my understanding is that if a plane is too heavy, it may damage the structure during touchdown, plus a heavy plane needs a longer distance to stop. Since we were above a heavily urbanized area, the pilot couldn't just dump the fuel. It was a 4 jet plane, so 3 engines were worki g (unless more engines were damaged - we weren't told). It musn't have been all that severe, though at the time everyone onboard went pale.
@@GuyFromTheSouth Long-distance flights usually have a higher take-off weight than the safe landing weight. In any case of an early landing, the aircraft will be too heavy to safely land. So in the case of a "moderate" emergency (an aircraft with 2+ engines can safely fly with one engine out), it needs to decrease weight by either dumping it from the tanks at high altitude or flying circles to burn it (many smaller planes don't have a jettison system). Of course in a more severe emergency like all engine out or with just a little bit of excess weight, an overweight landing is the only or safer option compared to staying in the air. An overweight landing is dangerous because it puts too much load on the landing gear (which could collapse) and brakes (which could overheat and catch fire).
@@TheNewTimeNetwork go around must enter the equation. Is there enough power to take that weight airborne in the event of a bad approach. Less fuel, smaller fire.
@Tournel Henry Chances of me being in a plane crash are 1 to 1000000000 (roughly). Chances of me being paranoid for the duration of the flight due to my irrational phobia are 1:1. So I'd rather get drunk. I agree it makes little sense. But my sense of paranoia doesn't agree.
@@MentourPilot sorry but I get back a bit the fear of flying in the past months as I saw a lot of very uncertain situations in your videos and the thumbnails are sometimes quite negative or drastic, like the "over bank", the "engine failure - now what?"- or the "duct tape"- video. Maybe you can read above my concrete questions about the video today that makes me feel not so save, as I don't understand some steps (or should I copy it to here? If you think, yes, that's what I also wrote as a separate question: I'm a layman and maybe I didn't heard each single word you said, but I don't understand how you know how to fly without thrust, how do you know with what sink rate your plane stays in the limits of the required speed, and how do you know this as your weight and the wind is always a different factor??? Does the computer still told you what sink rate you need to reach the runway and how is calculated in this question all the bends you are flying? What would you do, if the only runway you could reach would mean strong, really stormy tail wind, do you guess just the different sink rate then with the higher speed or does the computer calculates all that for you? Would all that be much more difficult at night or low and rainy clouds? )
I'm really surprised at how well airliners perform at gliding, the engineering in this machines is amazing, and also the pilots! You both make flying safe and fun :) Nice work guys
Thank you for helping me overcome my fear of flying. With your easy and simple to follow explanations, and sharing your knowledge with us, I feel safer, more relaxed and generally more aware of what is happening. I think I must have been the calmest when we hit turbelence on a flight to Lebanon from Heathrow Airport. I appreciate your videos.
@@GUITARTIME2024 just plz dont take too much- you need to be conscious in the event of a water “landing”. Well even that’s debatable I guess- we can just tape you to your seat cushion and tell you all about it later. 😂
There about 40 MILLION Commercial Flights Each Year... and in the past 100 Years of Aviation, maybe only about 2000 Commercial Plane Crashes... If you do the Math, you are more Statistically Likely to be Hit by Lightning or Win the Lottery.
One of the things I admire most about pilots and one of the reasons I started flying myself, is the professionalism, especially in an emergency situation. Watching the two of you play your parts, know who is doing what, staying calm with no power in the engines and land safely is just eye candy!! I could watch it a million times. And to know that all the pilots that have faced, or might face (hopefully not though) an emergency act in a similar way is inspiring. Once again, you've knocked it out of the ball park and into another dimension with your content. I would love to see more videos on emergency procedures like this. It would be cool to see you and Kelsey from 74Gear do an emergency procedure video, or maybe you could do a single engine failure procedure for us PPL holders. Keep up the great content. Have the app on my phone too. The 360 is unreal!! Thanks for taking the time to do these videos. I greatly appreciate it.
They make it look easy! The sheer amount of practice, repetition, flight checks, recurrent training, flight physicals and actual flight experience is incredible. The cockpit is, def full of stuff, but they know every switch, and way deep in their minds they know every system on the aircraft. The real challenge is being able to bring all of their knowledge to bear during an emergency, which relies on memory and the "real" but challenging ability to remain cool, and run those checklists, while flying a damaged machine. Pilots love flying, and the majority of them invest their entire lives into being able to do just that, replete with every challenge. I was raised by a pilot, a very darned good one.
Like the format you chose: intro, explanation of situation, full-speed/real-time execution, then commentary re-cap. Really solid, good video and good flying!
That was brilliant. As an aviation enthusiast, this inside look to all the practice and preparation flight crews participate in shows just how safe air travel is, even with inherent risks like bird strikes.
Hats off for a job well done. Nice flying ace. Sully said that no one warned us..no one told us that we were going to lose both engines at a lower altitude than any jet in history, but it's ok..just make a left turn to Laguardia as if you're going back to pick up the milk. So facing this in reality for the 1st time, a pilot doesn't have enough time to gather his thoughts on how many feet per second he stands to lose at banking. If Captain Sully didn't immediately decide to land in the Hudson, and if it weren't playing up on his instincts then a plane would have ended up in the city of New York that day. On the Sims you don't get the sensation of real flying yes, but it's a chance to practice your skills and develop new ones. Thank you so much for this video because a lot of us wanted to see dual engine loss at low altitude, with a safe airport landing. Keep up the great work. Much respect Captain.
Thank you for making this type of video. To see what happens in the cockpit during emergencies is extremely helpful for people who have flight anxiety or those who just want to gain more knowledge about commercial flying. Thank you!
Our jobs are usually well prepared and trained routines. But when something like that happens, you do feel the weight of your four stripes. And the satisfaction of well performed work - priceless. Greetings from sea pilot.
I know absolutely nothing about flying an airplane but I absolutely love watching your videos. Keep up the good work . Something about flying a plane that amazed me lol
Yes, thats a big point! I was never scared of flying, but after watching mentours videos, I am constantly smiling cus the safety is so big. Even minor things, that made me think if this is really ok, or how much the wings can bend, how much turbulence an aircraft can handle... I feel so much safer now.
I've introduced his channel to a couple of friends and family with fear of flying. It's been an amazing source of help and relief for them. Mentor may want to consider a fear of flying course. He's extremely good at easing one's fears
@@court2379 He had too much altitude actually, as he explained. That was an equally difficult scenario because you may overshoot the runway and you can't just dive the plane too quickly toward the runway as the speed would be too fast and the break won't be able to hold, or in worst case the landing gears may break. And as he explained, with too low altitude you can't turn around to land on the runway. The only option then is to ditch into the water or land on a field.
@@Secret_Moon the crew that landed on a lever in Florida, weren't they flying a 737? If I recall correctly the pilot slipped the a/c to line up with his chosen touchdown point.
I thought the birds were cool, but I didn’t see any actually strike the windscreen. When Sully hit the flock of geese, he said it looked like a Hitchcock movie for a moment out the window.
Even though that was simulated (I hope!) it still made me nervous. Really underscores the importance of training and temperament of the pilots! Great video!
It's great to see that airline pilots are so cool, calm and collected in these situations...... this is down to their constant training for every single event possible. Great content mate.
The same ABC as with a 172, airspeed, best landing spot, comms + checklist. Also a great display of CRM! It's a great extension of the rule "no matter what fly the plane" saw you laser focused on flying the plane and offloaded the tasks to Elton beautifully.
They are professionals - that is what they are absolutely expected to do . CRM should be absolutely routine . They were doing their jobs - I'm not sure why all the froth about something we should expect any commercial pilots to be doing. I tip my hat to their professionalism.
All pilots are supposed to be ready to handle emergencies like this -- I wouldn't be surprised if part of their certifications are based on them proving it in simulators.
Oh, I second Kanabar. I think the best part of your videos is the details you explain and how you explain a system and how it works(basic and easy the understand) for those who don't know anything about technical stuff and you break it down so they can at least get a grasp on how and why. Thank you.
Anybody else watching these videos out of the fantasy that someday we will be on an aircraft and the pilots with somehow die or be incapacitated ... and the stewardess will run down the aisle screaming "The pilots are gone! Please! Can anyone fly this thing?" And we will say "Yes, I watch Mentour pilot's TH-cam channel. Stand aside, I'll handle this!"
@@chris77777777ify There was no time for the flight crew to dump fuel. Even if in an unrealistically perfect scenario the flight crew managed to begin dumping fuel the moment the engines failed to moments before landing, the fuel dumped vs the total fuel load would be negligible. It is of a much higher priority that the flight crew focus on flying the aircraft to a safe conclusion.
@@chris77777777ify The 737 isn't equipped with a fuel dump system. From Wikipedia: Aircraft have two major types of weight limits: the maximum takeoff weight and the maximum structural landing weight, with the maximum structural landing weight almost always being the lower of the two. This allows an aircraft on a normal, routine flight to take off at the higher weight, consume fuel en route, and arrive at a lower weight. ... During the 1960s, Boeing introduced the 737, and Douglas introduced the DC-9, the original models of each being for shorter routes; the 105% figure was not an issue, thus they had no fuel-dump systems installed.
You see how calm petter is. Years of training and knowlegde as a captain. And of course how you are as a person. Aviate and navigate when this happen and keep calm and then talk to atc and say mayday mayday. Very important.
@@court2379 dual engine failure is practically never practiced for modern transport category aircraft. A single engine failure on takeoff or landing is trained (V1 cut, V2 cut, etc.), but both engines was never touched on in any of my training at the airlines.
Great insight into what happens in the cockpit.. It was my dream as a young boy to be a pilot but the dream was just to difficult to make come to, so watching these vids is the next best thing
I thought that even though this was a simulated two engine failure I could still sense the tension in the cockpit. Well done showing how to think on your feet, no time for anything else brilliant
Wow. I could feel the adrenaline. Great show of professionalism by you both. Really interesting to see the procedures used during dual engine failure. Thanks guys.
You immediately turned on the auxiliary power. Captain Sullenberger did the same on Flight 1549, ignoring the fact that it was way down on his checklist. Has turning on the APU risen to the top of your checklist as a result of that incident? Or has it always been there? Terrific video. Thank you.
No engines means no power for hydraulics and secondary electrical systems. Also given the height of both this demo and the Scully incident there is little time for a physical check-list review but instant actions from memory.
@@SpamMouse I get that. It's definitely the most sensible thing to do, and Sully was extremely so, thankfully. But the fact remains that the US Airways (or aircraft manufacturer?) checklist for that situation had turning on the APU further down the list than it should have been. I was just curious about industry-wide revisions based on the incident.
Agreed. There are many examples of check-list procedure that are stupid for want of a better word, The best I think is the check-list for emergency landing during fire on board/smoke filled cabin. The procedure is to bring the aircraft to a stop, ensure brakes are on, engines are shut down and power off and only then initiate passenger evacuation.
at really low altitudes you don't have much time to go through what you could at say 30k feet these big planes can glide over 100 miles from 30k feet up
@@SpamMouse They had power and hydraulics. The accumulators provide hydraulic power and batteries. The RAT (Ram Air Turbine) deployed the instant both busses went dark and would have provided enough hydraulic and electrical power to land the plane. Two Airbus planes have landed successfully with zero fuel on board because the RAT works.
Its truly impressive watching a skilled professional undertake such a task and while under pressure with no time or room for error.. I hope all pilots are this good
Does the simulator allow making an external view of the maneuver as well - live or as a play back? It could help us, terrestrial creatures, maintain the situational awareness. Thank you.
Thank God there are smart and educated pilots in this world that save a lot of lives you guys are great I’m glad that they do the simulations like this because you never know when something horrible could happen in real life
really cool video. As a flight simmer since MSFS appeared abt 1980 and thousands of landings it was very interesting because I knew exactly what you were doing and needing to accomplish to get safely on the ground. Keep it up
This is as good of a video as any to discuss the Arui Airlines A321 crash that happened this morning. I know that there isn't a whole lot of time to actually do anything but from what you have seen so far, does it appear that the crew nailed the emergency or did they just get really lucky. Of course that is all completely subjectable with the lucky part. As the old saying goes "Any landing that you can walk away from is a good landing". Whether the flight crew messed anything up or nailed the procedures, I will give a hearty 'BZ' to that crew to get everyone on the ground safely.
How much do you train for the startle effect? I.e. sim training where you don't know what failure will occur, or even sim training where you don't know *if* a failure will occur -- mix in normal sims with "unplanned failure" sims, to as best as possible simulate for startle. Knowing that you're gonna hit birds before you even start rolling will go a long way to generating the right response -- how does that hold up against surprise?
I saw that an A320 went down in Russia today with both engine failure due to bird strikes at takeoff and fortunately landed in a cornfield just as you said, no landing gear, they were too low for a return.
@@neiljohnson7914 they fly at both takeoff, approach and landing altitudes. Temperature above 20,000 is too low for birds. I think I would surprised to find birds above 10,000.
@@neiljohnson7914 owls at 42.000 feet are bs but the highest confirmed birdstrike was at an altitude of 37.000 feet. some cranes and geese cruise at about 30.000, thats pretty insane for how common they are.
I really enjoy these videos that explain what fuction certain cockpit controls do. As a former submariner, you would be surpised to know that some of the cockpit functions of passenger planes are actually somewhat similiar to piloting a submarine. One concept I would like to understand more is how to interpret what gimbal readings mean. Does this function apply at all to passenger aircraft? I know it applies to spacecraft but I don't know if it applies to airplanes.
Hello from Canada! Thank you for all your work. I am a fan. In this video why did you not cut off the fuel flow to the engines? You would have fuel pumps running (unless they quit after the loss of power) and thus fuel being forced into damaged engines. Just asking. It would seem to me that I would want to cut off the fuel and shut off all the fuel pumps to prevent a major spill especially after landing. Thank you. Fly safe. Henri
That’s a great question. The fact is that a damaged engine will get the fuel cut off as per memory items. The problem is here that we have two engines damaged and close to the ground so the emphasis turn to the safe landing of the aircraft. In other words, we prioritize
I am not fond of flying either because of that turbulence but I always remember my Godmother saying "Just think of God's hand under the plane guarding it". I also have friends that work in the aviation industry and the chances of crashing due to turbulence are rare, easier to die in a car accident!.
Brilliant video. Never seen a double engine failure simulation before. Keep up this fantastic channel. I love it and always excited for a new video to come online. Just wondering what a double engine failure below, for example, 2000ft would be like.
Darren Hibbert there is a video by air baltic where a guy was using airbus simulator to answer the question at what min altitude you can turn around land safely with both engines down. It was 2500ft :).
This actually looks like 90% of my normal landings in FSX, either with small GA props or with airliners. But I then began watching Mentour Pilot videos which greatly increased my interest in flight simming and now all my landings in MSFS are smooth (well, most of them).
Excellent video ! I'm an aviation fan and it's not only super interesting to watch but also great information and the fact that you share it speaks well about your mentorship vocation :)
Nice and smooth landing. Couldn't do better myself. Great job in such circumstances. No panic, straight thinking and most of all flying the plane not wasting time trying to figure out what have happened as in most of the cases... Great Job!
Figuring what happened is sometimes useful as certain actions could be taken (or avoided) when doing that. In this case it was obvious that the engines could not be restarted which made the pilots skip the attempt to restart, and that actually gained enough time to make a proper, gliding, safe landing.
Great video! Helped me understand system integration a little more . I’m currently learning the 737NG and this video (and your other videos) really help put systems in perspective. Do you plan on making a video on the MCP and the somewhat confusing autopilot modes (MCP SPD, altitude intervention, speed intervention, etc)?
Hi Peter, I have a suggestion. Do it at night with storms near the airport and of course low visibility. Also, copilot incapacitated due to an attack of sneezes. Just for fun. Seriously, you are a super pilot. Keep up the excellent work with the videos. Cheers form Houston.
Curious why did you leave the throttles at the takeoff thrust setting? Im assuming its because you had much more pressing matters to handle, but does that increase the chance of fire? I do like these more technical videos in the simulator, would be interesting to see the procedure for single or dual engine failure during the approach.
The engine computers will have shut the engine down, no fuel would be flowing anymore, the fuel pumps to the engines will shut down and the fuel valves will close. Modern aircraft are like a modern car, one area network of interconnected goodies that are interaware of eachother but aircraft its all redundant and safety interlocked.
I remember that one of the things that made the Hudson river landing possible was that one of Capt. Sullenberger's actions was to switch on the APU, even though it was not included in any checklists at the time. And that was pretty much the first thing you did after confirming that both engines had failed. It also seemed like you were following a pretty definite procedure, like confirming that there was no point in trying to restart engines due to severe damage - I guess that's part of cockpit resource management, so that you can focus on other things? Does this mean that since the US Airways Flight 1549, those procedures have been written for dual engine loss after take-off and are part of normal type training, or was this something "custom" you were doing in the simulator?
The whole thing seemed like a bit of cheating knowing there is going to be two engine failure and that return should be doable, though it is good as an illustration. Though if you can return to airport just by gliding I suppose there is no need to try to restart damaged engines. Might be preferable not to, the potential fire can be very dangerous even with fire trucks ready.
@@NetAndyCz That's not cheating though, that's training. The pilots are flying the departure as they normally would, so there's very little room to "prepare" in any way I believe. Besides, it doesn't matter if the pilots know what's coming, they still have to go through the procedure once it happens and that's what prepares them to react correctly if that situation ever happens in a real aircraft. Even if the simulation is designed to give them an opportunity to land safely by reacting correctly. If you think about it, programming "Kobayashi Maru" type situations (i.e. no-win scenarios) into simulator training would probably not be as conducive to achieving good training results as doing simulator runs where correct actions can actually help save the day. It might even be counter-productive to have situations where nothing you do will really help. Besides, simulator training is probably less about "winning" and "losing" the scenarios, but rather more about what the pilots do right and what they do wrong. I mean, it's definitely possible to have situations where the pilots do everything right and still "lose" (depending on the definition of losing). Perhaps Mentour could enlighten us about whether simulator training is at all "competitive", or - as I suspect - more of a "day's work" kind of thing? If there is a simulator ride where the engine failures are designed to happen something like right after take-off, obviously in that case the pilots would be "shit outta luck", so to speak - they probably wouldn't really have much of an opportunity to do any of the checklists or procedures - the most they could likely do is aim for the most open and flat spot they can find, and fly the aircraft to the ground in a controlled manner. I don't know if pilots actually do that kind of training, but at that point the best they can do is hope to mitigate the results of the incident somewhat - but in simulator you can't really judge what the actual results would be, so it seems a bit pointless beyond the obvious.
@@NetAndyCz I suspect a part of why they knew what failure is going to be beforehand is that they wanted to make this specific video. In training they probably don't know what failure is waiting for them.
Awesome. I had a similar problem (on my 6th time ever flying) in a aircraft slightly smaller...a Schweitzer 2-33. Well, maybe a lot smaller, a glider with no motors. Attempting to fly in formation with the tow plane and doing a terrible job. Tow rope broke at 600'. Procedure was: if rope breaks at below 400 ft, go forward, a little left or right, but do not turn back. At 600' I stabilized the glider at 55 kts per procedure and handed it over to the instructor who did a 180 and a huge slip and landed downwind on our departure runway (well, really a grass strip) at Caesar Creek Soaring Club My question is this: How did you know what speed to glide at? Does the 737 have a published Vx and did you use that or something else? Great work! PS: The ground crew had us back in the air in 30 seconds. My formation flying skills improved immensely during that 30 second interval. I was dead-nuts on from the first roll to the tow rope release! Quite amazing how fast the brain can learn when it's life is on the (tow) line.
I hope all pilots practice that type emergency. The maximum altitude reached before a dual engine failure makes all the difference in the outcome. Large aircraft basically have the glide ratio of a brick. You have to maintain enough airspeed to keep the plane in the air as long as possible, without losing more altitude as necessary. Good video.
A brick? A 747 can glide from cruising altitude to a distance of roughly 100km. That is not as good as a dedicated glider, but isn't bad either. You are thinking of the Space Shuttle. That had a gliding ratio of a brick.
@@kallewirsch2263 It has to be seen in relation to take off performance. A vertical take off at several g allows even sub-brick glide-ratio aircraft to return to the airport
Why didn't you close the engine thrust levers shortly after engine failure, but did so only on the ground? I assume the 737 is equipped with an engine fire suppression system on each engine, Why didn't you use these?
The position of thrust levers doesn't matter as you dont have engines to control. The fire suppression system is only used when there is an actual engine fire, sensed by the fire detection system. In this case there was no fire to supress.
I just wanted to see this again after the bird strikes on both engines of the Ural Airlines near Moscow. They were way lower than Captain Sullenberger at 750 feet. I cannot imagine a more intense few minutes. Again everyone loved.
I understand it is a older video. As I am not a pilot or expect to be but have always been interested in flight this was interesting to see a emergency without the real possibility of injuries! Well Done.
Great stuff! Currently flying the 787, I couldn't help but notice certain procedures between the two types are somewhat similar. Also, I think I speak for a majority of your viewers when I say we deeply appreciate the dedication and effort you put into your videos. Thank you!
Ahh, cool! I just landed from a flight with the 787, fantastic aircraft and I’m not surprised it’s similar.
Thank you for your kind words!
I think you speak for us all.
@@MentourPilot hey mentor, don't forget to tell us how did you found your flight now that you switch order. 😉
787 is a relatively new animal for Boeing; but lots of “Design Language” and “Operational Philosophies” transfer amongst corporate model ranges.
This is true with MANY industries.
That is not surprising. Manufacturers tend to keep relative similarities between models, to my knowledge. Though the 787 is far more advanced, it doesn't mean that the cockpit has to be vastly different, either. It's definitely not a case of Boeing vs Airbus.
I would love to see more emergency landing sims, this was chilling to think of as a passenger but to see how the professionals handle these situations is very impressive
If I were aboard such an incident I would give the pilots a huge hug after a safe landing like this.
You should!
Indeed, not only that but you would remember the entire crew for the rest of your life.
If you could get into the cockpit.
or a bottle of whiskey each
@@ycyoutube201 well I'm still alive
Pilots: “we lost all engines”
Glider pilots: “Y’all get engines!?”
Great video as always!
😂😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂🤣🤣 that got me in tears!! 😂😂😂😂
Glider Pilot: "Ah yes, we are going to get along just fine today"
I love this 🤣
As a glider pilot i confirm the only thing that can happen is that you run out of altitude or the rope brakes and you have to land with low altitude 😂
The 2nd fire truck at 8:50 was enthusiastic in its approach.
He just destroyed the right wing I think...
Indeed.. I have to talk to that guy.. 😂😂
Aren't the emergency vehicles built to go UNDER the wings of most of the larger planes? Yes, it's been years since I've flown, but that was what I was thinking, the way the sim made the truck race by so close to the plane.
@@KECOG on the bigger aircrafts, maybe, but on a 737, I highly doubt that, but I' m not 100% sure. In fact, the 737 wings are pretty low, the truck would be the size of a car...
@@gosp 737 wing isn't that low though, I mean you can walk under it without brushing your hair or anything
*no birds were harmed while making this video*
No *real* birds were harmed while making this video. VFX birds on the other hand...
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"How far can we go without any engines?"
"All the way to the scene of the crash!"
Bet you'll beat the ambulances by at least 20 minutes!
Traveling at half the speed of smell
One of the best I've heard.😀
Depends on speed and altitude.
As small as a pack of gum.
Been in a similar situation as a passenger years ago - bird ingestion into an engine, on a transatlantic flight. Ended up flying from Krakow to Warsaw, had to circle around for an hour to burn off fuel. Never seen so many firetrucks in my life. Ever since I make sure I board the plane in a state of borderline alcohol paralysis.
Why would yall need to circle to burn fuel? If one engine was working couldnt theyy have landed normally?
@@GuyFromTheSouth I was only a passenger, but my understanding is that if a plane is too heavy, it may damage the structure during touchdown, plus a heavy plane needs a longer distance to stop. Since we were above a heavily urbanized area, the pilot couldn't just dump the fuel. It was a 4 jet plane, so 3 engines were worki g (unless more engines were damaged - we weren't told). It musn't have been all that severe, though at the time everyone onboard went pale.
@@GuyFromTheSouth Long-distance flights usually have a higher take-off weight than the safe landing weight.
In any case of an early landing, the aircraft will be too heavy to safely land. So in the case of a "moderate" emergency (an aircraft with 2+ engines can safely fly with one engine out), it needs to decrease weight by either dumping it from the tanks at high altitude or flying circles to burn it (many smaller planes don't have a jettison system). Of course in a more severe emergency like all engine out or with just a little bit of excess weight, an overweight landing is the only or safer option compared to staying in the air.
An overweight landing is dangerous because it puts too much load on the landing gear (which could collapse) and brakes (which could overheat and catch fire).
@@TheNewTimeNetwork go around must enter the equation. Is there enough power to take that weight airborne in the event of a bad approach. Less fuel, smaller fire.
@Tournel Henry Chances of me being in a plane crash are 1 to 1000000000 (roughly). Chances of me being paranoid for the duration of the flight due to my irrational phobia are 1:1. So I'd rather get drunk. I agree it makes little sense. But my sense of paranoia doesn't agree.
One of your BEST videos. Between giving good explanation and proof that it is possible to return to the runway in 737. Good work.
Thank you! I’m happy you liked it!
@@MentourPilot Best video by far!!! So lucky to get to watch
I would have zero fear of flying knowing Petter was the pilot. Great job.
Thank you! My goal is for people to have zero fear, no matter who is flying! We are all trained like this.
@@MentourPilot sorry but I get back a bit the fear of flying in the past months as I saw a lot of very uncertain situations in your videos and the thumbnails are sometimes quite negative or drastic, like the "over bank", the "engine failure - now what?"- or the "duct tape"- video. Maybe you can read above my concrete questions about the video today that makes me feel not so save, as I don't understand some steps (or should I copy it to here? If you think, yes, that's what I also wrote as a separate question: I'm a layman and maybe I didn't heard each single word you said, but I don't understand how you know how to fly without thrust, how do you know with what sink rate your plane stays in the limits of the required speed, and how do you know this as your weight and the wind is always a different factor??? Does the computer still told you what sink rate you need to reach the runway and how is calculated in this question all the bends you are flying? What would you do, if the only runway you could reach would mean strong, really stormy tail wind, do you guess just the different sink rate then with the higher speed or does the computer calculates all that for you? Would all that be much more difficult at night or low and rainy clouds? )
@@sonnenscheinsommer4754 you have a better chance of winning the lottery than dying in a plane crash
@@mwbgaming28 I don't have a general fear but these concrete questions and negative experiences at flights and airports recently
Mentour Pilot I’m afraid of flying 😭
Dual engine failure in title.
Glider Pilots: This is our property
Not a pilot. Spent many years engineering, mostly avionics, but love the videos. I am 75 and still just love watching and learning! Thank you!!
I know its a sim but that was intense.
That's what I feel as well
Ha ha indeed
Eeek!
thought I was the only one feeling like sweating!!!
I'm really surprised at how well airliners perform at gliding, the engineering in this machines is amazing, and also the pilots! You both make flying safe and fun :) Nice work guys
Thank you for helping me overcome my fear of flying. With your easy and simple to follow explanations, and sharing your knowledge with us, I feel safer, more relaxed and generally more aware of what is happening. I think I must have been the calmest when we hit turbelence on a flight to Lebanon from Heathrow Airport. I appreciate your videos.
I use a Benadryl to stay calm and it prevents motion sickness. Double win !
@@GUITARTIME2024 very true. And stops you sneezing over passengers sat next to you
@@GUITARTIME2024 just plz dont take too much- you need to be conscious in the event of a water “landing”.
Well even that’s debatable I guess- we can just tape you to your seat cushion and tell you all about it later. 😂
There about 40 MILLION Commercial Flights Each Year... and in the past 100 Years of Aviation, maybe only about 2000 Commercial Plane Crashes... If you do the Math, you are more Statistically Likely to be Hit by Lightning or Win the Lottery.
One of the things I admire most about pilots and one of the reasons I started flying myself, is the professionalism, especially in an emergency situation. Watching the two of you play your parts, know who is doing what, staying calm with no power in the engines and land safely is just eye candy!! I could watch it a million times. And to know that all the pilots that have faced, or might face (hopefully not though) an emergency act in a similar way is inspiring. Once again, you've knocked it out of the ball park and into another dimension with your content. I would love to see more videos on emergency procedures like this. It would be cool to see you and Kelsey from 74Gear do an emergency procedure video, or maybe you could do a single engine failure procedure for us PPL holders. Keep up the great content. Have the app on my phone too. The 360 is unreal!! Thanks for taking the time to do these videos. I greatly appreciate it.
They make it look easy! The sheer amount of practice, repetition, flight checks, recurrent training, flight physicals and actual flight experience is incredible. The cockpit is, def full of stuff, but they know every switch, and way deep in their minds they know every system on the aircraft. The real challenge is being able to bring all of their knowledge to bear during an emergency, which relies on memory and the "real" but challenging ability to remain cool, and run those checklists, while flying a damaged machine. Pilots love flying, and the majority of them invest their entire lives into being able to do just that, replete with every challenge. I was raised by a pilot, a very darned good one.
That alarm when off "no time emergency landing"... This is not real and I still felt the chills
no its not real its a simulation
@@Bullenrage wtf
Bullen__ are you illiterate?
Yeah especially since I watched videos with the last recording of black boxes and those same alarms go off it’s horrific.
@@Bullenrage no it's not real
Like the format you chose: intro, explanation of situation, full-speed/real-time execution, then commentary re-cap. Really solid, good video and good flying!
Excelent video Mentour ! please upload more cockpit videos !
This has to be the best video Mentour has ever made
That was brilliant. As an aviation enthusiast, this inside look to all the practice and preparation flight crews participate in shows just how safe air travel is, even with inherent risks like bird strikes.
Best video by far!
Even in a simulator, that is intense. Cannot imagine what it would be like for real. Nice job guys
I hate to think how difficult it would be to accomplish in foggy conditions.
Hats off for a job well done. Nice flying ace. Sully said that no one warned us..no one told us that we were going to lose both engines at a lower altitude than any jet in history, but it's ok..just make a left turn to Laguardia as if you're going back to pick up the milk. So facing this in reality for the 1st time, a pilot doesn't have enough time to gather his thoughts on how many feet per second he stands to lose at banking. If Captain Sully didn't immediately decide to land in the Hudson, and if it weren't playing up on his instincts then a plane would have ended up in the city of New York that day. On the Sims you don't get the sensation of real flying yes, but it's a chance to practice your skills and develop new ones. Thank you so much for this video because a lot of us wanted to see dual engine loss at low altitude, with a safe airport landing. Keep up the great work. Much respect Captain.
Hey Mentour, we all appreciate that you spend your time in doing those videos. You're fantastic!😊
Thank you for making this type of video. To see what happens in the cockpit during emergencies is extremely helpful for people who have flight anxiety or those who just want to gain more knowledge about commercial flying. Thank you!
Our jobs are usually well prepared and trained routines. But when something like that happens, you do feel the weight of your four stripes. And the satisfaction of well performed work - priceless. Greetings from sea pilot.
I know absolutely nothing about flying an airplane but I absolutely love watching your videos. Keep up the good work . Something about flying a plane that amazed me lol
I used to scared of flying until I watched Mentour Pilot
.... And now you're terrified???? - I'm joking .... he is very, very good and shows ultra dedication to his craft
Reassuring to understand just how much thought and effort goes into safety in civil aviation, I assume.
Yes, thats a big point! I was never scared of flying, but after watching mentours videos, I am constantly smiling cus the safety is so big.
Even minor things, that made me think if this is really ok, or how much the wings can bend, how much turbulence an aircraft can handle... I feel so much safer now.
I've introduced his channel to a couple of friends and family with fear of flying. It's been an amazing source of help and relief for them. Mentor may want to consider a fear of flying course. He's extremely good at easing one's fears
Thanks to aircrash investigations it help me
there is usually alot more sweating in the real event
He had enough altitude to pull it off. Do it again 2000ft lower.
@@court2379 He had too much altitude actually, as he explained. That was an equally difficult scenario because you may overshoot the runway and you can't just dive the plane too quickly toward the runway as the speed would be too fast and the break won't be able to hold, or in worst case the landing gears may break.
And as he explained, with too low altitude you can't turn around to land on the runway. The only option then is to ditch into the water or land on a field.
Correct 😂😂
@@Secret_Moon could do a slide slip
@@Secret_Moon the crew that landed on a lever in Florida, weren't they flying a 737? If I recall correctly the pilot slipped the a/c to line up with his chosen touchdown point.
Legitimately one of the most interesting channels on youtube.
8:30 wow you even got virtual fire crews! Nice!
they did alot. did not see anyone jump out from the fire car thing
I thought the birds were cool, but I didn’t see any actually strike the windscreen. When Sully hit the flock of geese, he said it looked like a Hitchcock movie for a moment out the window.
Wow, 20 min+ video, felt like 3 minutes. Great one!
Excellent! I’m really happy you liked it!
That can feel like 3 seconds for the people involved
Even though that was simulated (I hope!) it still made me nervous. Really underscores the importance of training and temperament of the pilots! Great video!
Very simulated, yes.
I was hoping it would give you that type of feeling and that it would explain the importance of keeping to procedures.
It's great to see that airline pilots are so cool, calm and collected in these situations...... this is down to their constant training for every single event possible. Great content mate.
"They filled the engine up with dead birds" LOL
Rinderkennzeichnungs as he said that I read this
And now it smells like roasted chicken 🤣.
The same ABC as with a 172, airspeed, best landing spot, comms + checklist. Also a great display of CRM! It's a great extension of the rule "no matter what fly the plane" saw you laser focused on flying the plane and offloaded the tasks to Elton beautifully.
They are professionals - that is what they are absolutely expected to do . CRM should be absolutely routine . They were doing their jobs - I'm not sure why all the froth about something we should expect any commercial pilots to be doing. I tip my hat to their professionalism.
It is incredible how much effort it takes to land a plane during an emergency. Good job guys!
Omg I am impressed! You did that like a boss. I am certain you will be prepared for most all emergencys. I would be happy having you as a pilot!
All pilots are supposed to be ready to handle emergencies like this -- I wouldn't be surprised if part of their certifications are based on them proving it in simulators.
Nice vid. Pilots always fascinate me...how they are so calm with so much responsibilty.
Kinda reminds me of US Airways flight 1549. Except their landing was slightly a bit different for them.
Excellent video, by the way!!
birdstrike and engine failiure. that souds a lot like US Airways flight 1549
" reminds me of US Airways flight 1549" ===> Reeeeeealllly? What makes you say that?
A few of the passengers finished up with more than very cold damp feet.
bobbi mke plane lost both engines shortly after takeoff due to bird strike
He literally said that in the video...
GREAT video, thanks so much. I'm a private pilot and I won't be flying an airliner anytime soon, but I learned a lot from this. Absolutely fantastic.
Excellent! Happy you liked it!
Oh, I second Kanabar.
I think the best part of your videos is the details you explain and how you explain a system and how it works(basic and easy the understand) for those who don't know anything about technical stuff and you break it down so they can at least get a grasp on how and why. Thank you.
Anybody else watching these videos out of the fantasy that someday we will be on an aircraft and the pilots with somehow die or be incapacitated ... and the stewardess will run down the aisle screaming "The pilots are gone! Please! Can anyone fly this thing?"
And we will say "Yes, I watch Mentour pilot's TH-cam channel. Stand aside, I'll handle this!"
Auriam 😂
Call Ted Striker
After watching these videos, and having played MFSX, I certainly would not want to fly an airbus to a safe landing. 😱
Hahaha good one
And then you become a pilot with out having to go in to debt for training
Also, cutting off fuel to both damaged engines is also wise. This action would prevent a major fire.
Am assuming they did this here?
I notice they didn’t dump any fuel. Was it fully loaded?
Not the best upload.
Well presented but not enough
@@chris77777777ify There was no time for the flight crew to dump fuel. Even if in an unrealistically perfect scenario the flight crew managed to begin dumping fuel the moment the engines failed to moments before landing, the fuel dumped vs the total fuel load would be negligible. It is of a much higher priority that the flight crew focus on flying the aircraft to a safe conclusion.
@@chris77777777ify The 737 isn't equipped with a fuel dump system.
From Wikipedia: Aircraft have two major types of weight limits: the maximum takeoff weight and the maximum structural landing weight, with the maximum structural landing weight almost always being the lower of the two. This allows an aircraft on a normal, routine flight to take off at the higher weight, consume fuel en route, and arrive at a lower weight.
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During the 1960s, Boeing introduced the 737, and Douglas introduced the DC-9, the original models of each being for shorter routes; the 105% figure was not an issue, thus they had no fuel-dump systems installed.
Yes, I was really surprised that they didn't cut fuel.
I would absolutely love to have a detailed breakdown of every switch and moving thing in the cockpit during this!
You see how calm petter is. Years of training and knowlegde as a captain. And of course how you are as a person. Aviate and navigate when this happen and keep calm and then talk to atc and say mayday mayday. Very important.
Peter is definitely a smart boy for sure..one of the best pilots in the world .
It’s amazing how much we can learn from one incident. I’d imagine catastrophic engine failure low altitude training is now mandatory worldwide.
If course at least since pilots had to land on the Hudson River
Nope
You train for it as a private pilot, don't know why they wouldn't do so for type certified aircraft that have dedicated simulators.
@@court2379 dual engine failure is practically never practiced for modern transport category aircraft. A single engine failure on takeoff or landing is trained (V1 cut, V2 cut, etc.), but both engines was never touched on in any of my training at the airlines.
@@court2379 I've often thought that some of such pilot training should spend at least a bit of time on gliders; especially their landing procedures.
Great insight into what happens in the cockpit.. It was my dream as a young boy to be a pilot but the dream was just to difficult to make come to, so watching these vids is the next best thing
ATC sounds like a famous ginger pilot we know of.
Yea he does. Same accent and everything.
Who?
@@erictaylor5462 -- _Night Shyamalan_ twist: ATC's voice is inside his head!
I thought that even though this was a simulated two engine failure I could still sense the tension in the cockpit. Well done showing how to think on your feet, no time for anything else brilliant
Wow. I could feel the adrenaline. Great show of professionalism by you both. Really interesting to see the procedures used during dual engine failure. Thanks guys.
Ever watched a video on youtube and thought "man, this is what I want to do with my life"? That just happened to me.
You immediately turned on the auxiliary power. Captain Sullenberger did the same on Flight 1549, ignoring the fact that it was way down on his checklist. Has turning on the APU risen to the top of your checklist as a result of that incident? Or has it always been there?
Terrific video. Thank you.
No engines means no power for hydraulics and secondary electrical systems. Also given the height of both this demo and the Scully incident there is little time for a physical check-list review but instant actions from memory.
@@SpamMouse I get that. It's definitely the most sensible thing to do, and Sully was extremely so, thankfully. But the fact remains that the US Airways (or aircraft manufacturer?) checklist for that situation had turning on the APU further down the list than it should have been. I was just curious about industry-wide revisions based on the incident.
Agreed. There are many examples of check-list procedure that are stupid for want of a better word, The best I think is the check-list for emergency landing during fire on board/smoke filled cabin. The procedure is to bring the aircraft to a stop, ensure brakes are on, engines are shut down and power off and only then initiate passenger evacuation.
at really low altitudes you don't have much time to go through what you could at say 30k feet these big planes can glide over 100 miles from 30k feet up
@@SpamMouse They had power and hydraulics. The accumulators provide hydraulic power and batteries. The RAT (Ram Air Turbine) deployed the instant both busses went dark and would have provided enough hydraulic and electrical power to land the plane. Two Airbus planes have landed successfully with zero fuel on board because the RAT works.
Its truly impressive watching a skilled professional undertake such a task and while under pressure with no time or room for error.. I hope all pilots are this good
Even though it was an simulation, it was still exciting to see, thank you for the up load
Pretty cool to see a simulated emergency from inside the cockpit. Love the detail. Thanks for uploading
Does the simulator allow making an external view of the maneuver as well - live or as a play back? It could help us, terrestrial creatures, maintain the situational awareness.
Thank you.
terrestrial creatures lol
Thank God there are smart and educated pilots in this world that save a lot of lives you guys are great I’m glad that they do the simulations like this because you never know when something horrible could happen in real life
really cool video. As a flight simmer since MSFS appeared abt 1980 and thousands of landings it was very interesting because I knew exactly what you were doing and needing to accomplish to get safely on the ground. Keep it up
I am more interested how to take off with no engines.
With no engines i dont think you can lift a commercial aircraft. Jet engines are designed for those procedures
2 lines of coke
In the US, AOC is looking into that very thing in her "Green New Deal." She apparently believes it's possible. . .
@@naii2481 Very observant!
You just need a runway at an 45 deg. angle with a steep cliff at the end. Then put the aircraft all the way on the top and release the breaks. Voila!
A 1st class film, many thanks for explaining what goes on at the pointed end of a plane.
I’m so happy that you guys seem to like it! There will be more technical videos like this, in the app soon!
This is as good of a video as any to discuss the Arui Airlines A321 crash that happened this morning. I know that there isn't a whole lot of time to actually do anything but from what you have seen so far, does it appear that the crew nailed the emergency or did they just get really lucky. Of course that is all completely subjectable with the lucky part. As the old saying goes "Any landing that you can walk away from is a good landing".
Whether the flight crew messed anything up or nailed the procedures, I will give a hearty 'BZ' to that crew to get everyone on the ground safely.
How much do you train for the startle effect? I.e. sim training where you don't know what failure will occur, or even sim training where you don't know *if* a failure will occur -- mix in normal sims with "unplanned failure" sims, to as best as possible simulate for startle. Knowing that you're gonna hit birds before you even start rolling will go a long way to generating the right response -- how does that hold up against surprise?
Can do one AT NIGHTTIME/NO VISUALS?
what if they're not functional and everyone on board is dead and the plane is crashed on the side of a mountain?
Expecting the dog to appear at any moment
Devbo Slice ha. Or working the rudder pedals!
Tom Pies 🤣🤣
I'm just a Microsoft flyer but how generous of you to post these videos. Many, many thanks!
Hardcore gaming set up in a nutshell
100 subs with no videos - Role Play lvl 10/10
magnificent teamwork, y'all rock the cockpit.
I saw that an A320 went down in Russia today with both engine failure due to bird strikes at takeoff and fortunately landed in a cornfield just as you said, no landing gear, they were too low for a return.
I didn't know birds flew at 35000 feet
@@neiljohnson7914 they fly at both takeoff, approach and landing altitudes. Temperature above 20,000 is too low for birds. I think I would surprised to find birds above 10,000.
@@neiljohnson7914 I saw an owl at 42000 feet
@@neiljohnson7914 owls at 42.000 feet are bs but the highest confirmed birdstrike was at an altitude of 37.000 feet. some cranes and geese cruise at about 30.000, thats pretty insane for how common they are.
I really enjoy these videos that explain what fuction certain cockpit controls do. As a former submariner, you would be surpised to know that some of the cockpit functions of passenger planes are actually somewhat similiar to piloting a submarine. One concept I would like to understand more is how to interpret what gimbal readings mean. Does this function apply at all to passenger aircraft? I know it applies to spacecraft but I don't know if it applies to airplanes.
Miracle "Off" The Hudson
These videos are fantastic, it's great to be able to see the procedures in place for specific circumstances!
Hello from Canada! Thank you for all your work. I am a fan. In this video why did you not cut off the fuel flow to the engines? You would have fuel pumps running (unless they quit after the loss of power) and thus fuel being forced into damaged engines. Just asking. It would seem to me that I would want to cut off the fuel and shut off all the fuel pumps to prevent a major spill especially after landing. Thank you. Fly safe. Henri
That’s a great question. The fact is that a damaged engine will get the fuel cut off as per memory items. The problem is here that we have two engines damaged and close to the ground so the emphasis turn to the safe landing of the aircraft. In other words, we prioritize
Aren't those simulators fantastic. So realistic its unbelievable. Love the way he says ' we made it! That's a good thing'. 👍
I hate flying but I love these videos... airline pilots are amazing.
I am not fond of flying either because of that turbulence but I always remember my Godmother saying "Just think of God's hand under the plane guarding it". I also have friends that work in the aviation industry and the chances of crashing due to turbulence are rare, easier to die in a car accident!.
Very interesting video. Thanks for the upload.
I dont like this, I love it. With this way a person can learn a lot. Know the procedures
Kenneth J Jackass
WOW!!!! Despite everything.
Despite EVERYTHING.. you smashed it. Without smashing the aeroplane. Big Cymru 🏴 love for
You and your FO 👌🏻 ❤
Brilliant video. Never seen a double engine failure simulation before. Keep up this fantastic channel. I love it and always excited for a new video to come online.
Just wondering what a double engine failure below, for example, 2000ft would be like.
Darren Hibbert there is a video by air baltic where a guy was using airbus simulator to answer the question at what min altitude you can turn around land safely with both engines down. It was 2500ft :).
I can also imagine that having more open terrain can help with getting back, Vs Sully having Manhattan and Queens.
Hmmm Dublin... don't crash into the Guinness brewery! St Patrick's day is coming up!
This actually looks like 90% of my normal landings in FSX, either with small GA props or with airliners. But I then began watching Mentour Pilot videos which greatly increased my interest in flight simming and now all my landings in MSFS are smooth (well, most of them).
Excellent video ! I'm an aviation fan and it's not only super interesting to watch but also great information and the fact that you share it speaks well about your mentorship vocation :)
Another great video 🙌🏼
That was intense, I loved it!
Excellent! I’m happy to hear that
Nice and smooth landing. Couldn't do better myself. Great job in such circumstances. No panic, straight thinking and most of all flying the plane not wasting time trying to figure out what have happened as in most of the cases...
Great Job!
Figuring what happened is sometimes useful as certain actions could be taken (or avoided) when doing that. In this case it was obvious that the engines could not be restarted which made the pilots skip the attempt to restart, and that actually gained enough time to make a proper, gliding, safe landing.
Yes, that is how you do it. More SIM's please!
Great video! Helped me understand system integration a little more .
I’m currently learning the 737NG and this video (and your other videos) really help put systems in perspective. Do you plan on making a video on the MCP and the somewhat confusing autopilot modes (MCP SPD, altitude intervention, speed intervention, etc)?
Hi Peter, I have a suggestion. Do it at night with storms near the airport and of course low visibility. Also, copilot incapacitated due to an attack of sneezes. Just for fun. Seriously, you are a super pilot. Keep up the excellent work with the videos. Cheers form Houston.
Also replacing birds by dragons and a zombie apocalypse down below
@@sumatrasumatra9336 lol
That was awesome!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏 Sully would be proud
Curious why did you leave the throttles at the takeoff thrust setting? Im assuming its because you had much more pressing matters to handle, but does that increase the chance of fire?
I do like these more technical videos in the simulator, would be interesting to see the procedure for single or dual engine failure during the approach.
The engine computers will have shut the engine down, no fuel would be flowing anymore, the fuel pumps to the engines will shut down and the fuel valves will close. Modern aircraft are like a modern car, one area network of interconnected goodies that are interaware of eachother but aircraft its all redundant and safety interlocked.
I remember that one of the things that made the Hudson river landing possible was that one of Capt. Sullenberger's actions was to switch on the APU, even though it was not included in any checklists at the time. And that was pretty much the first thing you did after confirming that both engines had failed. It also seemed like you were following a pretty definite procedure, like confirming that there was no point in trying to restart engines due to severe damage - I guess that's part of cockpit resource management, so that you can focus on other things?
Does this mean that since the US Airways Flight 1549, those procedures have been written for dual engine loss after take-off and are part of normal type training, or was this something "custom" you were doing in the simulator?
Most of the checklists were rewritten and the cockpit upgraded to recommend not restarting due to the damage.
The whole thing seemed like a bit of cheating knowing there is going to be two engine failure and that return should be doable, though it is good as an illustration. Though if you can return to airport just by gliding I suppose there is no need to try to restart damaged engines. Might be preferable not to, the potential fire can be very dangerous even with fire trucks ready.
@@NetAndyCz That's not cheating though, that's training. The pilots are flying the departure as they normally would, so there's very little room to "prepare" in any way I believe. Besides, it doesn't matter if the pilots know what's coming, they still have to go through the procedure once it happens and that's what prepares them to react correctly if that situation ever happens in a real aircraft. Even if the simulation is designed to give them an opportunity to land safely by reacting correctly.
If you think about it, programming "Kobayashi Maru" type situations (i.e. no-win scenarios) into simulator training would probably not be as conducive to achieving good training results as doing simulator runs where correct actions can actually help save the day. It might even be counter-productive to have situations where nothing you do will really help. Besides, simulator training is probably less about "winning" and "losing" the scenarios, but rather more about what the pilots do right and what they do wrong. I mean, it's definitely possible to have situations where the pilots do everything right and still "lose" (depending on the definition of losing). Perhaps Mentour could enlighten us about whether simulator training is at all "competitive", or - as I suspect - more of a "day's work" kind of thing?
If there is a simulator ride where the engine failures are designed to happen something like right after take-off, obviously in that case the pilots would be "shit outta luck", so to speak - they probably wouldn't really have much of an opportunity to do any of the checklists or procedures - the most they could likely do is aim for the most open and flat spot they can find, and fly the aircraft to the ground in a controlled manner. I don't know if pilots actually do that kind of training, but at that point the best they can do is hope to mitigate the results of the incident somewhat - but in simulator you can't really judge what the actual results would be, so it seems a bit pointless beyond the obvious.
@@NetAndyCz I suspect a part of why they knew what failure is going to be beforehand is that they wanted to make this specific video. In training they probably don't know what failure is waiting for them.
@@HerraTohtori totally cheating. Doing the glide slope equations with the current weather and temperature just isn't practical.
no 737s were harmed during the making of this video
no
AHAHHA IDIOT just a joke?
the 737 was a paid actor, for sure
before I start, why are people disliking all these videos? they can and probably will save lives at some point!
Awesome. I had a similar problem (on my 6th time ever flying) in a aircraft slightly smaller...a Schweitzer 2-33. Well, maybe a lot smaller, a glider with no motors. Attempting to fly in formation with the tow plane and doing a terrible job. Tow rope broke at 600'. Procedure was: if rope breaks at below 400 ft, go forward, a little left or right, but do not turn back. At 600' I stabilized the glider at 55 kts per procedure and handed it over to the instructor who did a 180 and a huge slip and landed downwind on our departure runway (well, really a grass strip) at Caesar Creek Soaring Club My question is this: How did you know what speed to glide at? Does the 737 have a published Vx and did you use that or something else? Great work! PS: The ground crew had us back in the air in 30 seconds. My formation flying skills improved immensely during that 30 second interval. I was dead-nuts on from the first roll to the tow rope release! Quite amazing how fast the brain can learn when it's life is on the (tow) line.
I hope all pilots practice that type emergency. The maximum altitude reached before a dual engine failure makes all the difference in the outcome.
Large aircraft basically have the glide ratio of a brick. You have to maintain enough airspeed to keep the plane in the air as long as possible, without losing more altitude as necessary.
Good video.
A brick?
A 747 can glide from cruising altitude to a distance of roughly 100km.
That is not as good as a dedicated glider, but isn't bad either.
You are thinking of the Space Shuttle. That had a gliding ratio of a brick.
@@kallewirsch2263 It has to be seen in relation to take off performance. A vertical take off at several g allows even sub-brick glide-ratio aircraft to return to the airport
Why didn't you close the engine thrust levers shortly after engine failure, but did so only on the ground?
I assume the 737 is equipped with an engine fire suppression system on each engine, Why didn't you use these?
The position of thrust levers doesn't matter as you dont have engines to control.
The fire suppression system is only used when there is an actual engine fire, sensed by the fire detection system. In this case there was no fire to supress.
6:31 - some nice landing gear shock absorbers they have. The plane is not even shaking during the touch down. Wow.
All prayers and thoughts go out to the families of those who died in the Ethiopian 737-MAX-8 crash
DNP_10 and the Lion Air 73Max crash
Great video!!!! As always Thank you Mentour...
I just wanted to see this again after the bird strikes on both engines of the Ural Airlines near Moscow.
They were way lower than Captain Sullenberger at 750 feet.
I cannot imagine a more intense few minutes.
Again everyone loved.
I understand it is a older video. As I am not a pilot or expect to be but have always been interested in flight this was interesting to see a emergency without the real possibility of injuries! Well Done.