Challenge Accepted! Can Tom Scott Land a B737 By Himself?!
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In this video I will put to test a theory I have had for a long time. I will check if it would be possible for me to talk down a passenger, using radio, who was all alone in the cockpit.
And the passenger who will get this questionable honour, is Tom Scott!
We will be using a full flight simulator and I will be in a briefing room in a different part of the building with only a radar-screen and a radio to help me communicate with Tom as he tries to fly.
We will try BOTH what would happen if Tom had to hand-fly the Boeing 737, following my instructions and later I will also demonstrate what I would REALLY do, which is to help him down using all of the awesome features of the AutoPilot .
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I absolutely love your content on your channels!! My most flown aircraft on my flight simulator happen to be the 737-700, 737-800, and 737 Max 8. I do fly some of the other Boeing aircraft from time to time as well, but nowhere near as often. Oddly enough, I ended up with the Thrustmaster Airbus Officer’s Edition Flight Stick and Throttle Quadrant only because they more than doubled the price of the Boeing Edition. This one is a little easier to travel with as well. Being blind, I have ways of hand flying the aircraft and landing, but do to calibration difficulties, I much prefer auto landing, and watching this definitely was a help.❤
Well done, landing in Dublin.
The Autopilot's are a magician's invevention.
Yes your Dear Dad would have loved it. Did you know that he taught on those too?
Two signs of a great production:
1) You can understand with audio off, and video on.
A+
2) You can understand with audio on, and video off.
A+
As a onetime nervous flyer I learned to close my eyes and visualize myself in my mothers womb. The ambient noise was what my mother heard while she did her best to keep me safe. A jet is a strong yet fragile
Wrong button sorry…trying to be profound! …fragile container carrying SOB and doing all within their power to keep them safe. The comparison worked, and I never was nervous again.
Thank you.
Have you covered the Tupolev TU-154 crash in Longyearbyen? I learned of it when I travelled there in 2016, it's fascinating from a malfunction/work overload/language barrier perspective, and also the following fallout from the loss of passengers resulting in the nearby mining town needing to be evacuated (it is still a ghost town to this day, very eerie to visit, even school papers still out on desks. I could likely dig up some photos). Highly recommended to take a look at!
If you want to see this from my perspective, with a couple of the bits that didn't make it in here, that's over on my channel. And to all the Mentour team -- this was a heck of an experience, thanks so much!
It as awesome to have you onboard Tom, you can be my wingman anytime!!
You did a great job Tom! Nice work. I'd fly with you any day!
Never expected a Tom Scott and Mentour Pilot crossover 🤯
THE COLAB WE DIDNT THINK WE NEEDED BUT ITS HERE AND IM SO GLAD
Tom Scott buttered the biscuits
The crossover we didnt ask for but surely needed
Absolutely!!
I personally wished for this to happen so badly tbh xD
Now we just need add James Hoffman to bring out a perfectly made airplane latte.
Yeah, it’s quite funny when there’s two TH-camrs you follow and think of as entirely separate and you don’t even think about other people possibly following both channels as well and all of a sudden, there’s a crossover of those two. Thank you!
Absolutely fantastic.
"Stand by. Flying."
*chuckles*
🤣
1. Aviate 2. Navigate 3. Communicate
I'm actually really impressed with how well Tom communicated. Remembering to communicate while stressed is HARD.
That is sort of his job if you think about it
So true, so true.
It's why we all should admire people who are drowning when they remember to keep screaming.
What's even more amazing is that he did communicate but didn't prioritze it over flying the airplane, basicly following the "aviate, navigate, communicate" which is pilot's mantra in case of emergency. Even though the navigation part was rough.
i would be impressed if Tom wasn't a hand picked "random person" he is speaking like he already knows basic flying techniques... to be impressive i need to see some dude taken off the street on his way to buy his morning milk thrown in the simulator.. not this chosen person that essentially knows what he is doing.
@testdriveheroes811 he clearly doesn't know what he's doing. I've bever stepped foot in a cockpit. All the knowledge I have is from watching videos and even then I barely know anything. About the only thing Tom had going for him is that he knew how to communicate, which is not that rare of a skill.
Pretty hilarious lines there from Tom. My favorite: "Standby... flying". Every pilot should use that phrase whenever ATC is pestering them.
It’s true! It’s a very good thing to say!
Tom quickly learning aviate, navigate, communicate 😆
Right.
Agreed - I cracked up at that one, though I think it has to take a close second behind "if this is an ejector seat, I'm gonna kill him..."
Fantastic collab and really interesting to see both videos!
“I can’t copy the number, im flying!!” - 1NR
When you referred to the autopilot as the 3rd crew member, I immediately pictured an inflatable pilot appearing in the other seat.
Hahaha! We should have put that in.. that would have been awesome
Named "Otto"
Hi son, have you ever seen a grown man naked?
"Good luck! We're all counting on you."
Always make sure to keep it fully inflated using the crotch valve.
19:59: Mentour Pilot: you see the green button
Tom: Confirm. *Reaches for button instinctively, as I would*
Mentour Pilot: Cool. Don't push that or it'll turn off.
Tom: *returns hands fully back to chest*
I love both channels. Very unexpected colab. Glad I found it.
I don't work with aircraft but I still learned very early on that if I'm just pointing something out to someone as a button I should always preface it with "Don't push anything yet" specifically because I know that they will push it
16:36 Definitely a very survivable crash, which is quite impressive for someone with no flight experience.
A good a landing is one you can walk away from. A great landing is one you can use the aircraft again after.
Assuming the taxiway was vacant
@@Shipwrecker97I would hope that if this was real that the parallel taxiway would be cleared of all obstacles by ATC as soon as it became clear that an amateur was at the controls.
Honestly at less than 3m/s vertical speed this was simply a hard landing not a crash. I think the autopilot just crashed him, because he hit the grass.
@@nemo-x for sure. woulda just rolled through the grass, depending on how soft/hard it was. even in the worst case scenario of it being so soft it rips gear off and you end up with things catching fire, id guess he would have an 80%+ survival rate of passengers from that one, if not 100.
“Can you see the runway?”
“No I have nothing but clouds”
Petter chuckling “that’s too bad”
😂😂😂😂😂😂
think that was my favourite part of the whole video
@@biosparkles9442 Petter could have been cruel and instigated an aircraft inversion during cloud-out, but thankfully for Tom's continued living, he did not.
Definitely not a a confidence building remark by Petter, but really hilarious anyway!
@@classic_movie_trailers I kinda doubt this simulator can actually do an inversion. Might do ~60 degrees, but no way it'll do upside down.
I love how tense he is saying he can’t see any runway only clouds and you told him (with a smile) “Yep that’s how we fly. “ I think Tom gained some mad respect for your job in those moments.
And when he witnessed the autopilot in action he got mad respect for planes 😁👍
Petter was really enjoying himself :)
If this ever happened in a real life emergency I can't tell if that response would be incredibly terrifying or incredibly reassuring. :p
@@paulscott2037 Porqué no los dos? 😅 At least the professional pilot sounding like things are normal is SOME level of reassuring, even while basically crapping yourself with fear, I imagine.
We all did.
Can I just say the excitement and the bounce in his step that Mentour had when he was heading over to congratulate Tom is a sign of an amazing teacher
Petter is awesome. Great personality.
Your comment confused me, then I realised I was only half-way through the video.
It's good to see that he was seriously nervous which is a credit to the realism of the simulator and is how you would be in a real life situation, instead of thinking it's a simulator so it doesn't really matter.
Tom: We’re flying in clouds. Petter: Yes that’s what we do and grins. That was gold
HUGE EGO
@@Grandremone the one thing Petter doesn't have is a huge ego. He loves what he does, that's all. And why shouldn't he?
@@Grandremone what??? Lol how
I came late in the video and thought it was a real scenario. My heart was in my mouth thinking he was in a real aircraft. When mentour laughed I recognized it was a simulator. Its precious. A good prank for someone not realizing its a simulator. Its worth traveling to Dublin. He says " flying" like he's talking to a ATC.
The funny thing is that I said it before he responed xD
The thing I really appreciate about Tom, besides his infectious enthusiasm, is his willingness to try virtually anything and to upload the video even if he horribly messes it up.
My favorite was his singing with Beth Roars!!
I think his rollercoaster video is the best representation of that. I could feel his fear through the video in that episode.
To be fair, he did get it on the ground both times! Yes, the manual landing was a little bit 'off' but in real life I wouldn't be surprised if many walked away from that one?
Thanks for watching buddy!!
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I'm surprised with the first attempt that you didn't get him to go around and try again.
I would love to have a go at doing this.
Same
Most likely there was not enough fuel left for another go around
MS Flight simulator, while not as cool as those simulators, might be good enough to start with
@@mohammadmujahid199 very very unlikely, as you have to carry more fuel that required so you can divert to another airport. When an untrained passenger is being instructed how to make an emergency landing in a small aircraft they do multiple approaches before getting them to land the aircraft.
@@guiorgy I wouldn't be able to log any of those hours so not something I'm interested in spending my time or money on.
From Tom's reactions, they filmed in the opposite order: he first landed on autopilot, then they tried landing the plane without it.
When they move on to the 2nd half of the video, when he is talking, a small note appears in the bottom left confirming this
Also Tom's own video also has Autopilot first.
I thought that too
Yes, for example he needed the flaps lever explained to him during the autopilot segment but on the manual segment he seemed to already know how to work the lever
@@Xnoob545 Huh. I missed that note.
This looks like the most anxiety drenched, stressful fun I never knew I wanted to have
"anxiety drenched, stressful fun" describes 80% of Tom Scott videos.
It was much better and more real (duuh) than most of the movies I've watched.
Anxiety, exhilaration, fear, panic, wonder, elation, another panic, self satisfaction, concentration, focus......all that was relayed in this extraordinary exercise.
@@johns8364 And then he learned to ride a bicycle.
I'm a trainer and I could see how you were deploying all the skills people need for feeling like they're in safe hands. Even pointing out noises which will happen. Truly your vocation, chief!
And the Trim Wheels - always catch the unwary off guard! Tom really peaked freak-out at that moment, but 'Perfectly Normal' from the instructor immediately squashes heightened anxiety.
total layman here: My only "complaint" is when Tom started to panic, Mentour did not show much effort to deescalate Tom's fear, Now, that could have been cut in editing. But I think the reason Tom crashed is because he panicked and stopped listening. Unless the emergency was an equipment failure, wouldn't it have been prudent to have Tom throttle up, and pitch up, and make another lap somewhere around the time he stated he intended to land on the taxiway? (honest question, )
_"all the skills people need for feeling like they're in safe hands. Even pointing out __-noises-__ THINGS which will happen"_ - exactly like that guy that happened to be "my" dentist, many years ago. Needles to say, it was a VERY, VERY good approach of his.
Being able to vocalise every single step from memory (visualising) rather than having it in front of him and then articulate those into clear directions for someone who's never seen the insides of a cockpit before was truly remarkable.
@@JSmith73 Many years ago I came across this expression "it's like trying to teach a six years old kid how to tie shoelaces over the phone".
(I believe it was David Pogue, in one of his "...For Dummies" books.)
Man I’ve watched a lot a lot of
Mentour pilot videos and felt I somewhat knew my way around a 737 cockpit. This really
Illustrates how difficult it really is to fly one of these.
I hear you. I knew this was going to be very difficult to pull off, but this illustrated to me that it's *way, way* more difficult than that.
I am not a pilot, but I habitually watch as many episodes as possible- fully hooked. It’s a standard nightly event. That being said…Great job! A serious rookie and a delightfully sinister pro. I loved this episode!
Isn't this entire senerio being positive is assuming you know how to communicate with anyone? I know those radios can be complicated to someone that's never use one
Not sure if you have any simulation experience (any MSFS will do), but the videos get way more exciting (and terrifying) if you do because now you have way better notion about how bad the situation really was for the pilots.
It's the same for some engineering background, if you have ever made some planes on Kerbal Space Program or something you get some knowledge about how bad the airplane structure is suffering when operating beyond what it was designed for.
You won't become an expert, but you will KNOW.
@@thaedleinad KSP might be a bad example here. I've built planes capable of folding in their wings while in flight and continue on on thrust vectoring.
Tom is a pretty sharp guy with all kinds of technical experience. It’s amazing how complicated this is with a normal, perfectly functional aircraft. Imagine what it’s like during an emergency. Mad respect to the pilots.
Imagine how bad it can get when _some_ of the control surfaces are reversed. So it is not a straightforward inversion, but a crazy nonlinear situation when the control surfaces are working against each other.
@@adamrak7560 I mean, I know there has been freak accidents where some sort of control inversion has occurred, but I don't see how that is relevant in the context of this video's scenario? The chances of both total pilot incapacitation _and_ significant technical failure combined are just so abysmally small. But, to answer your question, if a passenger had to take control, and there was then a control inversion failure, everyone on board would assuredly be dead. I think OP meant the stress of the emergency _of total pilot incapacitation itself,_ not with any other added complications.
You should see Tom's channel where he TRIES to land it manually!
And, lets not forget that Tom is an extremely good communicator. That is at least as important as the technical experience
@@mnxs I grew up in the industry and I'm currently a first officer at a major. I have never in my life heard of a control inversion. Cite your sources?
"Good luck, we're all counting on you." That was brilliant!
Hahaha! 😉😂😂
I am both delighted - and not at all surprised - that Tom knew the reference. 🤣
@@MentourPilot I assume you've been waiting quite some time to drop that quote into a landing simulation.
"....and don't call me Shirley!"
At least he didn’t ask him if he likes gladiator movies 😂
23:33 It got me laughing, Ejector seat ON A PASSANGER PLANE!
Shhhh! The passengers will hear.
"Tray Tables folded and seats in upright position Cap'n Scott!"
If I had to land a 737 I would definitely want Petter on the other end of the radio.
💕💕
@@MentourPilot Honestly i would love to repeat this experiment with myself. I uised to play a lot of Microsoft Flight Simulator and managed to take off and land twice in a real flight simulator here in Vienna. Wonder how i woudl do alone in the cockpit, just with you over the radio
I would want my dad (also Peter) in the pilot seat and Petter on the other side. My dad has been flying smaller planes for almost 50 years
That’s what I just told my husband- as long as it’s Petter, I would be confident I could do it.
Why? He could not even tell Tom which way to push the trim switches to re-adjust the stabilizer.
I love Tom's remark at 25:27 "I'm not sure if that's more or less terrifying than seeing the ground"...
Yeah, that says a lot of how realistic it felt.
That first landing was definitely survivable I'd say
It was, from what I remember someone with experience on this simulator said that for training purposes it's basically coded to treat any contact with anything other than the runway as a fail/crash, even if it was technically a survivable landing.
I would think the gear would shear off and consequently the engines, but overall I'd call it a 90% survival rate. Better than lawn-darting! 😉 😃
way higher chance of survival compared to crashing down at the ocean or some land in the middle of nowhere. I will definitely take it.
@@thomaskositzki9424i dont even think so, i think is first gear was on the pavement and the touchdown would not have broken the gears of. He might have deviated to of the taxi way onto the grass because the while. If we assume the fule is dumped and not passengers and he can reduce speed decently before going of the taxyway and does not hit anything, there might just be some structural damage to the front gear. If he swerved of the taxiway immediately, the front weel will probably dig into the the dird and break of, as often seen in the runway overruns but they are mostly harmless, probably the safest accident you could have. There have been multiple touchdowns on taxiways in the past with no accidents.
Still a go aground should absolutely have been done, no way he would get a center runway landing with that angle. I thnik executing a go around would probably be too difficult though, thats why they did not call it. All in all, if the taxi way is clear, this was probably the best choice
@@phil-jc8hp A go around is quite possibly one of the least complex procedures to do related to landing, by far. A go around is just keeping the nose up and watching speed and altitude, and then more turns which Tom got the hang of pretty quick. I imagine it was related to time constraints since the manual landing was after the autoland or wanting to prove a point a little,, that a passenger wouldn't think to do a go around anyway especially while panicking
I once tried that ... Couldn't get the manual landing right but let me tell 10 years of flight simulator games HELPs a lot ... Already knew all the autopilot settings and ILS procedures but my God getting yourself follow the glide slope and localizer and timing the flare isn't easy! I didn't butter it ... I made the Ryanair signature! If you have no experience at ALL Tom did quite well manually!
Hey I get you there. 🤣 When I was just about getting to the stage where I could land mostly reliably when playing MSFS and only broke the landing gear once every so often I would remark that I must have some Ryanair in me… which amused and annoyed some of my friends who seemed to take great fun from teaching me mixed in with the drinking game, depending on which airline they flew for.
It was simple enough. We’d sit around my tv and Xbox in my living room and take turns landing, each competing to do it the best. But, for every successful landing the player would have to drink a shot. Except for me. It still takes awhile even now but eventually it levels the playing field. But until that time I have the benefit of between four and six pilots talking me through it. The only downside is that sometimes I have to remind them to talk one at a time or they’ll overload my poor little groundling mind. But once it gets to the point where they’re either breaking the landing gear, going on runway excursions and stuff like that I don’t bother with the exemption from the shots and chaos ensues until I struggle to program the sim. Then it’s tv time until either home time or they pass out on my sofa.
I’m sure it’s vastly accelerated my progress, but all the same I’m perfectly content to keep my feet on the ground and play MSFS with the same bullheaded stubbornness of any Soulslike player. 😆 It’s also a lot of fun if occasionally exasperating.
Ryanair really isn't that bad, But some every day PILOTS are ! I've had more smooth landings with Ryanair, than I had with 'Turkish Airlines' or even KLM !
'Bad Ryanair Landings' are just a MEME !
"I made the Ryanair signature!"
Probably what I would do. Safer to put the thing down than to overdo the butter, float up up and away, and stall out 30 feet above the ground.
Petter: "Don't worry. You're clear of any terrain and we're going to get you through this nicely."
Petter: (presses button that causes engine 1 to catch fire)
Now that would be utterly cruel to do that to poor Tom. However it actually can be done by an instructor at a more advanced level!!
YES PLEASE! I can envision a whole series of videos with all kinds of weird failures built in, and featuring some very unusual characters, I'd name the series "Airplane - the Simulator".
@@gypsysoul1719 Airline pilots routinely deal with things like that in simulator training and testing. You name a weird catastrophic failure, they've probably flown it in sim.
Damn, even though that was just a simulator my heart was in my mouth the whole time. What a great video.
Thank you! Glad you thought so!
That was absolutely brilliant! I felt Tom's emotions from start to finish. If I were "ever" in this kind of position where it's just me up there, it would be a tremendous comfort knowing that "you" were talking me down to a successful landing. How cool was this? A typical passenger safely landing a huge plane like that? Surely you can't be serious!
This was super cool. A while back a buddy and I paid to do a 737 Sim that they open to the public. We spent 3 hours in that thing and I was beat at the end. Totally captured the stress and systems management aspect of modern piloting. Well done.
I laughed far more than I should at "If this is an ejector seat I'm gonna kill him". That particular combination of anxiety and frayed temper is just too relatable.
If that was an ejector seat, he would kill anyone else on board lol.
I'm fairly sure the 737MAX isn't fitted with an ejector seat. You need the 737IOA (I'm Outa Here) model for that.
@@gcewing
The 737 Bail Out used for training. Ticket prices are.. free. As is the hard liquor 😁
Pity they didn't have a fake ejection button in there. Must hit 3 times, first to initiate, next to confirm, next to consign all passengers to an early grave. :P
@@iwansays Adding ejector seats for every passenger and crew member would add a lot of extra weight.
Tom actually seemed scared to death lol
Yeah.. these things are very convincing!
He ABSOLUTELY did. I noticed that too.
I have flown a simulator and they are scary as heck! And yes I crashed into to control tower the first time.
Good actor or.huh?
@@sharoncassell9358 he's not an actor
I have never been so stressed and excited as viewer. Tom did a great job in both simulations. Well done and thanks to you Petter for this great video.
Wait, wait … what about all the initial screaming lol. Tom was so calm and said things like “confirming”. Clearly, as we all know anyway, he is not a simple human. Thanks for this crossover!
one thing is listening what should be done, and completely other thing is seeing complete non-pilot actually doing that instructions. That was intense!
Yep.. imagine standing in a briefing room, not being able to see what he did.. 😅
@@MentourPilot Yeah, that's actually more unnerving, coz you hold the responsibility of guiding the guy
When you tell someone to aim for the beginning of a runway, you kind of assume they'll know to get on the centreline first. Fascinating to see that that wasn't the case.
@@MentourPilot I have a hard enough time giving people directions over the phone to a place down the street! :D I can't imagine having to be able to visualize the whole cockpit and the state its in, then give instructions on how to land the aircraft.
Petter is that kind of person to make somebody, not interested AT ALL in aviation, deeply regret to not have chosen this as a career path. Just SO incredibly inspiring!!
There is always MSFS 2020 :)
I have no particular interest in air craft or flight but i love these Mentour videos. Clearly & cleverly presented. I fail to fully understand all the tech info at times, yet i find myself totally absorbed. This particular video was really cool.
I can't describe the surprise I felt when I realized that _you_ were the one that supervised Tom Scott in this landing.
Ive felt genuine emotion from this. For many years now, it has always been my dream to get into a 737 simulator and put myself to the test. Hope some day i have the chance to do so.
I have a relatively affordable simulator in my hometown but never got the courage to go haha :)
Same here 😄
You will someday
Definitely a dream of mine too. The manual attempt certainly looked very stressful, but even with the autopilot flying that must still be a really cool experience.
Watching the autopilot first on Tom Scott and then watching manual control first on Mentour makes a completely different watching experience
Yes it does
I think, they made that autopilot landing first, while filming..i watched Tom's clip first.. amazing reaction from Tom, while flying
@@jmarkula Yeah, I think artists license has been applied to the final edit of this episode. I had so many questions to the way Tom was reacting and being guided by non other but the Mentour himself! And pretty much all of my concerns were answered by the second part of the video, which leads me ot believe that it was filmed in the reverse order.
@@VasyaIvanovichPupkin Yep, it even says so at the bottom of the screen at 17:52.
@@jrlepage2a03 Ah! I didn't notice it.
If this doesn't want to make someone a pilot, I don't know what would. One of the best videos I've ever watched hands down!
After watching this, my admiration for the skill-set of airline pilots just shot up immensely. Great video. Thanks Petter
The collaboration we never knew we needed! Love this!
And here it is!!
I've been anxiously awaiting this colab, awesome content from both of these channels, thanks!!
@@MentourPilot You first did the AP land and then the manual, right? It's a bit confusing for the viewers since you show them in reversed order and Tom magically seems to know all the things that you then explain "later" ;)
@@RandomUser2401 yes, we did it that way because I wanted to differentiate AND I wanted to show how stressful it is when you are flying manual compared to autopilot.
@@MentourNow 👍🏻 I see
Seeing Petter's glee as Tom landed was incredibly infectious. And man, it's amazing how good those simulators are considering how much stress Tom went through. This is why you should always appreciate your pilots, folks. Much, Much harder and stressful than people realize.
Just thinking about the amount of basic training needed to just get into even more advanced training and then continue training just to do your profession. I requires some real heart and dedication. Mad respect
Well, no.
If it's hard and stressful for a trained pilot they're in the wrong job. That's what training is for. It becomes muscle memory so it's NOT harder and more stressful. You need confidence in critical jobs and a strong belief in yourself to handle situations. A typical landing should never be stressful.
@@johndoh5182
It's a human trait you can't train away. That's is why aviation is all about procedures. It can still be stressful, a high workload will stress anyone out and potentially lead to mistakes Watch mentour pilots videos and you'll see very senior captains get into trouble. It's about not reaching that point to keep stress levels down and mistakes at a minimum
@@rosen9425 You're just repeating what the other person said. They never claimed the job could never be stressful but all the "typical" workload and procedures should not result in a high amount of stress. That's what the training and screening are there for. To weed out the ones who can't fulfill these criteria.
@@Pit1993x
You're all over the place conflating all sort of things here
That was an excellent episode! I enjoyed every minute and had a fever with Tom. The fact that it's "only" a simulator flight didn't make it any less exciting. Very well done Tom. The ground staff did a good job too. 🙂 Best channel ever!
Wow, that was intense. Loved the Airplane reference at around 38:30
I swear Tom Scott pops up everywhere and it’s so unexpected every time 😂
Yeah, he is great to work with though. 💕
No but fr, this was my exact thought😭😂
This is a great video. Often in the accident reports Petter talks about task saturation in difficult situations. Seeing him have to remind Tom, a highly intelligent, but task saturated at that point, individual, that if his speed was 290 and now it's 260 then yes, it's reducing, seems to me a great example of this.
This is certainly humbling to a hotshot on sims. Every passenger should try it & recognize the significance of what pilots do.
Thanks for watching buddy!!
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When I fist saw this I thought it was real. My heart was in my mouth. Then I realized it was a sim. I exhaled. Thank goodness. I went in a c141 sim and it really feels like a plane. It moves and makes engine noises. It's amazing.
I’ve gone from being afraid of flying to getting okay, and now with your videos enjoying it. The videos you post, especially like this one, are so informative and inspiring. I’m really looking forward to learning more!
I see people pointing out the difference in how Petter and Tom arranged the two landings in their videos, and I feel that the way Petter did it definitely makes it more positive feeling cuz of the successful landing being the one that the video ended on. Very nice of you!
Not even all the way through yet, but I can tell that Tom's best trait for this sort of thing is his communication skills. He's very clear about what he's seeing.
That comes across in some of his videos. See also the one he did with Sorted Food.
When he started to really get anxious and overwhelmed I just wanted to tell him it's ok, calm down like 10% and refocus. Then get him to do some more simple exercises to get the feel for the plane before executing the approach. It was obviously stressing him out and it was affecting his ability to keep everything under control.
I would say he did a really good job at communicating, he just needed to know it was ok to take his time, and to breathe, and that he was doing a great job at learning everything on the fly so far, just keep at it.
Kudos to Tom Scott for giving it his best and for sharing something that didn't go perfectly, I think that shows a lot of courage and self-awareness.
And kudos to Mentour Pilot for making this happen, and for being a great coach. I understand that you were trying to get him to land with minimal training and with time pressure so none of what I said was a criticism on your coaching. I could just see he was stressing and wanted him to nail that landing haha
Even the auto land has a lot going on. Petter was like a proud Papa at the end of it. Great job!
The third crew member sure needed a lot of help from the second member.
@@CTSFanSam they could've made it a single button to set everything up, but planes and Boeing especially insist on the pilots knowing every little detail systems are doing, and for a good reason
@@CTSFanSam for safety reasons it needs to be made that way. When you know what you're doing the extra complexity means you can easily see if the autopilot is failing, and especially when landing, things like the heading, speed, and altitude you need may change up to the last second depending on weather and traffic, so it can't be a one-button system. But if you watched Petter's videos on everything you need to do to land a plane it's more obvious how complex it actually is to fly a plane, and how much the autopilot simplifies that task despite its complexity.
If Apple or Microsoft had designed it everything would be buried deep inside the system and you wouldn't know what's happening if anything goes wrong because they're scared to expose their users to actual technical information, and only give you a summarized glance at what's happening. It's why you can't use an ordinary computer to fly a plane
@@thesteelrodent1796 If microsoft designed it, it would require a subscription. A fee per landing I would imagine (and a fee for take off, a fee for en-route, etc).
@@CTSFanSam AND a ransom fee to clear the bugs while in flight.
Another great video, and a collab from two of my favourite TH-camrs. The only reason I think I would have had a better shot at this is because I've watched so many of your videos, and sort of know what the general terminology is, and where a lot of the most important instrumentation is located and how it's operated. All things considered, I think Tom still made a good effort.
I can imagine it being absolutely bewildering and terrifying to try if you have no prior experience with looking at cockpit interiors or hearing someone explain things repeatedly. I realise it's incredibly difficult to just ignore what's outside the window for the most part and just focus completely on the instruments. It is counter-intuitive for a human.
Also for people used to driving a land vehicle, paying attention to what's outside the windows is usually more important than what on the dashboard.
38:26 "We're all counting on you". Oh, that's just mean 🤣🤣🤣
If I was in Tom's position, I would've responded to "Good luck. We're all counting on you," with "Surely you can't be serious." 😂
Petter should have repeated that line also AFTER the landing!
I am serious. And don't call me Shirley.
Well that was so gripping I'm going to watch it twice. Nice job to both of you!
One thing I noticed, Petter had a hard time not falling back on technical jargon when describing where he wanted Tom's attention. It's really hard to put yourself in the head of a layperson when you live and breathe this stuff everyday.
Yes I noticed that too. For example glare shield instead of windshield. I didn't know that one.
I was actually surprised how much Tom understood without explaining (even in the auto landing). There was a similar video made by Captain Joe 5 years ago and it took much longer for his accidental pilot to get to know the controls.
@@larryphotography _I think_ the glare shield is the thin blade that comes out below the windshield and above the autopilot panel. I would welcome a correction
@@larryphotography The 'glare shield' is the top part of what we would call the 'dash board'. It is a cover sticking out beyond the top of the instrument panel, to prevent sunlight from the windscreen shining down onto the instruments and making them hard to read.
But yes, it is jargon that a non-pilot wouldn't know.
Excellent video! If I'm ever in this situation and I call for help, I hope it's you on the other end. Your knowledge and ability to explain things in such a way that even laypeople can understand is exceptional.
This is an exercise all pilots need to do as part of CRM training! I mean guiding down a PAX via a radio! This was amazing to watch!
40 minutes passed like it was nothing. I was on the edge of my seat for the entire video. Incredible!
Me too. It was fun.
Did you notice how Scott lost track of flying when pettor kept asking him questions? Thats what happens when ATC keeps interrupting. They don't realize that you're just trying to fly the plane. Then listen to instructions.
Same. 😄
The autoland vs the manual really says something about what it means to "fly the plane". Nicely done, both of you!
I've seen many people autoland (a simulator), but I've never seen anyone without training manually land without incident. Tom missed the runway, and landed hard (the simulated people probably lived, but the plane is toast after that hard a landing.)
@@jfbeam only thing I can think of that has actually happens is that a plane landed so hard the wheel actually went through the floor of the cabin and injured a passenger. I’m sure 99% of the passengers on the manual flying probably would’ve lived. Even if someone was injured they would have the whole suite of emergency responders and equipment but Tom did great for having zero flight experience
Can you imagine the early days of aviation where pilots would take off, fly, navigate, and land manually all the way.
the very fact that he is basically training to teach a civilian to land a airplane like this for a demonstration he is the man to call in a emergency like this. Ill take him for a pilot any day. One of the top 10 coolest videos on youtube. Highly educational.
yup he's talked about it a few times, he is a flight instructor.
This " passenger" is very knowledgeable, understanding terminology, he knows how to read instruments, knows how to enter headings, knows where to find speed & height, he knows how to adjust flaps and knows what idol is. As an A/C Instrument Technician, this person has above average knowledge, anyhow he could have been given instruction to enter glide slope & use ILS autopilot landing initially, don't think in an emergency situation anyone should attempt manual landing....
Love it! Looked like he couldve stopped on the grass if it didnt shut off! He had a decent attitude when he landed, just hit really hard. It would be nice if the simulator would have went a little longer before shutting off.
Yeah, I think the sim recorded a crash because he had the left wheel in the grass. But it’s a survivable crash for sure
Its interesting how immersive the simulator is. When he started, he was quite casual. About 6 minutes in, you can hear the tension begin.
even i was tense watching him land that heavy! how awesome.
Petter and Tom in the same video is the perfect TH-cam crossover 😊! Tom did an excellent job landing the plane and Petter did an equally excellent job instructing Tom. Great vid, love the genuine enthusiasm and well done to you both 😊
Having a competent and calm instructor makes all the difference. Well done, Tom!
Bro this collaboration is amazing, never saw it coming
Those are the best collabs! 💕💕
Oh my word, this was amazing, I’m in my seventies, a widow, once so scared of flying.......now, in awe, dear Petter, enthralling video, with Tom all the way! Thanks so much.
Thank you for watching! Great to hear that you liked it! 💕
Are you less scared now watching aviationvideos and have experts like Petter explain it all to you?
Another @MentourPilot flight on time. Welcome to Dublin. The temperature outside is --- effin' freezing!
I don't think I've ever seen Tom freaking out as much as he was on the autopilot landing. He also looked like he was having the time of his life. Both Tom and Petter looked like they were on Cloud 9 at the end. Awesome demonstration!
Mad respect to the pilots and also the engineers who built these machines.
Better respect to the software PROGRAMMER !
As a microsoft flight simulator pilot with nearly 10 hours of flight time I’m quite impressed with his aviation skills under pressure
As a KSP pilot with nearly 700 hours and 5 successful landings, Tom did a great job.
As a msfs pilot with 2 plane landings and 0 ksp landings I‘m quite impressed aswell
Though it‘s still funny
As a real pilot he did an outstanding job under pressure
Aviate navigate communicate
As a KSP player with many deceased Kerbals, I’ve have nothing intelligent to contribute so don’t listen to me.
thank you for your service
You are truly amazing to be able to instruct him like that, great job man!
Damn, even with the autopilot landing, he gets a bit overloaded and misses stuff. The autopilot handles it, so it works out, but it makes sense he'd get so totally overwhelmed on the manual landing. There's nobody there to catch his mistakes while he tries to fly the aircraft, process directions, and scan instruments.
I imagine the best way to do the manual attempt would've been to burn the fuel, doing as many attempts as possible until one looked good and he felt comfortable, but I appreciate seeing what it looks like when a person gets overloaded. Petter talks about it all the time, but it's hard to really understand without seeing it. Tom's life wasn't even in danger, and the sheer stress was overwhelming just to watch. Really amazing video!
We could see why Petter is such a great training/check pilot. Very patient with Tom throughout the landing regime. Another great Mentour video. Thank you so much. Maybe Tom goes to get his commercial rating now...
I watched Tom's video. On his attempt without auto pilot as he was miss aligned and other issues were going on, I kept thinking "Go Around! Go Around!" Something your videos have taught me pilots should do when all is not going well during the landing. Great video, and you spoke with such a calm cool voice even as Tom was stressing.
Yes, but a go-around for someone without training would likely be much more dangerous than a controlled crash on the airport perimeter.
@@MentourPilot Really? Interesting...
@@brunoais Full throttle wouldn't be a good idea near the ground if you don't know what you're doing.
@@MentourPilot Could you explain why? I even think that if we have enough fuel we actually SHOULD knowingly execute a go-around on the 1st approach, in order to 1) feel more comfortable with learning, as we know we're not landing yet, just consuming information and familiarizing; 2) actually, learn to go around in case we have something unexpected during the subsequent "real" landing. Kind of, let's use some fuel we have for the learning first.
@@MentourPilot Throttle on TOGA, retract flaps a bit and pull slightly up? I am not a pilot though, so I am probably missing many things... would bei interesting and very appreciated if you could explain the challenges with a go around more.
As someone who's only driven ground vehicles, counteracting the instinct to look out the window and instead focusing on the instruments sounds like one of the harder parts
Thanks Mentour & Scott, that was great !
Mentour saying: 'Wrong week to give up drinking coffee !'
(Airplane)
Tom panicking in that cockpit was the best I've seen so far in this year.
"If this is an ejector seat, I'm going to kill him!" Could you imagine if they put those on a 737?
I was just looking at the video, and panicking along, the most stressful mentor pilot video so far!
imagine how freaked out he'd get if he hears the "TERRAIN PULL UP"
I love seeing different TH-camrs get together for stuff like this!
It was SO much fun to do!
@@MentourPilot Thank you!!!
Quality aviation content as usual Mentor Pilot. It’s just amazing the stress levels that are involved for a relative novice, even in a simulated environment.
Where say you guys, can land almost with your eyes closed. You do a great job bringing this know how to novices like me. Thank you much. You even answer my questions on Twitter, so you deserve every like and sub. Cheers.
I wish you could have given us an analysis what went wrong in the first attempt (which was acctually the second attempt.... one can tell)
Yeah he should have 😞
What do you mean by the parenthetical?
@@jacksyoutubechannel4045 that the videos were not shown in chronological order of filming. coached autopilot landing attempt was first go in sim, with manual coached landing being second scenario in sim.
yeah, I am wondering, how hard did he actually hit the ground? Would the plane flip or break into two, or would it just have some minor damage at the bottom?
@@LiliumAtratum I personally tend to say that the crash was made by the simulator just from the fact that Tom touched down on grass/taxiway and not the runway. I mean that is has a setting that if your wheels touch ground that isn't the runway it automatically ends the simulation showing crash.
The gears were out, the pitch was very well aligned, so in real life there would be two options. Either the hit on the ground was within the durability of the aircraft (which I think is true) and he would just slide forward until coming to a stop due to friction, hitting obstacles on the ground and eventually using brakes. Or he hit too hard, then one ore more gears would be ripped off and he would make a belly landing. The forces still were too low to break the plane apart, and a turnover might have occurred when during belly sliding something big would be hit by one of the engines (but in that short approach sequence I couldn't spot any obstacle big enough to cause such a situation).
An idea for another video in a sim. It’d be cool to see you hop in another airframe you’ve had no experience on (say an a320) and fly with zero training. It would be cool for highlighting both training and the differences between manufacturers
Totally love the video. It reminds me how overloaded I got at the beginning of my own flight training. I couldn't even hear other pilots talking on the radio during final approach. Tom did really well given the circumstances.
He really did!
This rings a bell. At the beginning I couldn’t even hear the ATC and once I tried to read back the landing clearance while on short final and nothing came out of my mouth because I was in survival mode haha
Very enlightening. Gives us a brief glimpse into what's needed to land a modern passenger aircraft. When stuff goes right, you can see how repetitive (and boring!) routine procedures can be. And you see how easily things can spiral out of control by failing to follow standard procedures, failing to follow checklists, not utilizing proper CRM, and losing track of situational awareness.
Loved every minute of it. Today I realized what every pilot go through everyday in their career. Respect ❤
Best. Video. Ever. Well done Tom. We'll gloss over the fully manual attempt. You landed within the airport. I'm sure the cabin crew and emergency services will have got everyone off! Great talk downs from Petter too. Loved the 'Airplane!' reference!
He did an awesome job and it would likely have been fully survivable.
Best video. Ever. - That sums it up perfectly.
Plus the aircraft can be used again.
Result.
@@MentourPilot that's great news ! Are you also going to do analyze the crash ? Obviously without being judgemental of Tom 🙂
Tom Scott and Petter Hornfeldt, two of my favourite TH-camrs together in a dramatic scenario! What more entertainment could I hope for on a Saturday afternoon? Thank you, guys!
Wow! I was tense watching this! Makes you realise how difficult it would be if the passenger was flustered and not orderly and vocal like Tom! Good job!
He's so calm. I'd be crying and panicking so bad, omg. I've been in a big truck simulator once and just that, I manage to ram into a house, fly off a slope and run over a police officer. I would probably die of anxiety in a flight simulator
Watching the video it struck me how having a diagram of the cockpit instruments for the aircraft in question is something that is almost essential for a successful landing when giving manual instructions to a passenger.
Yep, it’s really important for setting up the visual picture.
You can feel that the auto-land was filmed 1st, since Tom had to search for stuff like the Gear lever f.e. but not on the manuel attempt.
Idk I think its rather the other way around. He called out the white and red lights on the runway and had to hold himself back from touching the yoke, possibly bc he had been flying with that in the try before.
Also the first part was the important part for the video, especially when Petter had already explained in the 3 year old video how to land with autopilot and said it was very much possible if instructed by ATC or a pilot on what to do.
I think the opposite is true because Tom was much quicker to understand things in the auto-landing and seemed to already know how to read pitch, speed, etc without being instructed.
@@ja_u Auto-pilot was filmed first. Tom Scott in his video directly states that after he landed, he was gonna take a break, then attempt it again without auto-pilot.
@@vexron5872 its been 2 months but regardless of what was said, it also makes more sense to try the "harder" version aka without auto pilot first to see if that is possible rather than starting with the easy version and then using that knowledge to make the harder version more unrealistic and easier bc of prior knowledge from easy attempt
Autopilot landing was first. See the note on lower left which appears at 17:51.
This was AWESOME! 👍 Great pupil and, of course, excellent guidance from the Mentour Pilot. Always wanted to know if I could manage this myself. Thanks so much!
Since there are so much pilots dying in the cockpit these days, I made a little checklist of this video to take with me when I am going to fly again. When needed, I am willing and ready to come forward and fly the plane. I used to be a private pilot with license and RT license and made 25 SOLO flights. My landings were always like "butter". I am very sure I can handle it!!!
This shows how easy it is to be overwhelmed by the workload and get disorientated without paying attention to your instruments. Makes you appreciate what pilots have to stay on top of to ensure it doesn’t happen to them.
This is a very unexpected crossover and a big delight :D
I love both you and Toms work
Great episode! I had the chance to spend an hour or so in a Max 8 simulator a few months ago, all in the right seat. Did a few manual approaches and only crashed once, but I had an instructor right being me giving guidance. There really is a lot going on and I really appreciate the expertise that airline pilots have!