interesting takes on the banlist, but from all those hits, nothing would change in the game. The cut copies in SE would just get replaced with fiendsmith.
Fenrir/kash as a splashable engine doesn't feel problematic for the game. It is a fun card to use and doesn't feel overbearing to play vs. Limiting it doesn't even do much since people playing it with unicorn just up the field spell count. You are only hurting people that want to play it as non engine. I would rather a hit to the actual main gameplan of snakeyes instead of consistency hit and apo hit since they can just flex into other end boards and play fiendsmith/melodious engine to make up for the drop in consistency.
I really hope konami goes for the jugular and actually has the balls to ban a snake eye card, preferably original sinful spoils. My problem with Konami actually going for wanted is mainly that diabellstar is a cool card that can set 9 different cards that even in decks that would benefit from setting a different one (illusions setting the trap that specials for example) there’s no reason to and the deck would be better just summoning jet synchron or ash. For snake eye and its variants it removes 8 starters, makes bonfire a worse extender if you have to grab poplar and most importantly changes the deck from the boring one card combo into a more interesting deck that would necessitate a greater engine requirement. Ash going to 1 as well would be good too but wanted is not a problem card inherently. I think as a community we need to start asking Konami to limit branded fusion haha. Branded is a deck that everyone only complains about the “problem of the week” cards. Sanctifire ban is good but long term we need to demand a branded fusion limit. I hope to Christ they hit tenpai in some way. Best thing they could do is ban magna so they can’t full combo in my end phase while also disrupting my plays. Just ban magna please god, let us have chaos space back for its sins
If they decide to have a heavy hand, flamberge to 0 but keep all the other cards at 3. Kinda like kitkallos to 0 in impacts, still playable but no longer the best deck by a lot
fiendsmith broken engine will just open the gates for random bans left and right to cards that otherwise would never get banned just so they keep the fiendsmith around and sell their boosters.. should get the SHS treatment and ban the link 1 from the very beginning..
UNBAN THE PLAN!!! 🕵️♀️ As someone who has loved Spyral since the release of Double Helix. ( and maybe I’m outdated and wrong ) but now a days if you can’t fit like 12 hand traps in your deck it’s not AS able to top it seems. Spyral has so much engine that it needs to be as consistent as it can be that I just don’t think it will be anything more then like a tier 2.5 deck.
Imo we r getting to a point where it might happen something like what happened with vanguard, but with the luxury of a banlist. The powercreep of snake-eye fiendsmith is too big, we for shure need a reset banlist that touches it in a big way, ban Beatrice, apo, limiting skill drain to one at least, along with deck lockdown and other floodgates banned, Albion banned, shifter, barrier, simul archfiend, shared ride and other lingering floodgates also banned… there is too much bullshit rn in the game. But if a list like what I just mentioned happens, we would be getting the healthiest, most fun, most balanced, greatest format of all times, at least in my opinion
Ja aber meine Meinung ist diese karte die unfairste ,sie lässt snake eyes mit Diabellstar auch als engine in Infernoid synagieren und kannst wie jetsynchro und Fire King engine viel zu Konstant spielen. Falls die verboten wird kann man snake eyes nicht mit andere Feuer thema so einfach rein splashen und wanted auf 3 ,nimm mal an lässt white wood ,konstanter spielen.
I think if u ban Apo, IP, Zealantis, Beatrice and sanctifier the game would be in a much better spot. One card you haven’t talked about is birth. Kashtira as an engine is so stupid to be put every deck. If they choose to not ban shifter / limit it I would love to see Gamma to come back so at least I wont get shiftert in DP. I think gamma promotes smart gameplay and gives also decks more chances going second. With barone banned it’s also not a Omni on board right away they can also ban omega if they want I just want an answer to cards like shifter / droll. Wild take I know ..
@@TheKarlBaum I was also always a fan of Gamma. But lately in Master Duel I have realized how crazy the card really is. The card is fine going second and really good going first in a lot of cases too.
You say everyone plays 3 fenrir and 3 talents and you hate fenrir but like the idea of talents? In the last 5 livestreams in eery second game the Player who resolved talents won the game. Fenrir is definatly not the problem. Punishing your oponent for just trying to get not killed is a problem. You just try to stop the combo by using ash. Fine talents Look at Hand shuffel back veiler. Use an extender and gg. Or even worse shuffel back your one starter and good like for your topdeck. Going second you have 3 interuptions. Your oponent forces you to use one because you need to stop him. Cool activate talents take your second interuptions and kill with that your 3. Interuption. Nice now you lost again. Such a healthy and balanced card for the game. I can really understand why you think fenrir is the problem and not talents.
Valid arguments. Talents also deserves to be limited. I just think Talents is more depending on the format. If we for example head into a Breaker format at some point again Talents is just useless going first. Fenrir pretty much always is good. Going 1st or 2nd. But still Talents is crazy strong in general, yeah.
@@Lampi_Ygo for example you need 3 handtraps and 2 starter so that you will not lose because of that card. In addition your oppnent knows every card in your Hand so he can easyly play around. It does not depent on the format it is unfair in anytime
@@lukasunterwaditzer3141 I'm not arguing against Talents being good when resolving. It's just more a factor of it not always being able to resolve and then being a dead card.
Going after Skill Drain will happen 100% unfortunately. My one and only true love 😭. Prosperity to 1 is a weird thing; originally I was all up for it, but I think besides Tenpai mostly Rogue Decks need it to be "strong enough" And heavy storm is harassing me enough in Tengu Format and Edison. Please don't free it
interesting takes on the banlist, but from all those hits, nothing would change in the game. The cut copies in SE would just get replaced with fiendsmith.
@@SamolonXDYT Don’t think that’s true. The deck is pretty inconsistent with those hits I would guess. But we’ll see.
Sekkas light to 3 🫶😔
Accepted.
Someone said it in chat, princess is the problem card not zealantis
@@AdamChopdat Yeah, Princess is crazy too. I can see her go as well. Maybe not immediately but eventually.
I love what you said about fenrir, I hate that card omg
Same
Also chaos space. Wanted and engage are at 3. There's no reason space can't go to three
I want this as a chaos enjoyer, I just hope magnamhut goes to 0 before this
@@greenhillmario leave magnamhut out of this
Fenrir/kash as a splashable engine doesn't feel problematic for the game. It is a fun card to use and doesn't feel overbearing to play vs. Limiting it doesn't even do much since people playing it with unicorn just up the field spell count. You are only hurting people that want to play it as non engine. I would rather a hit to the actual main gameplan of snakeyes instead of consistency hit and apo hit since they can just flex into other end boards and play fiendsmith/melodious engine to make up for the drop in consistency.
I really hope konami goes for the jugular and actually has the balls to ban a snake eye card, preferably original sinful spoils. My problem with Konami actually going for wanted is mainly that diabellstar is a cool card that can set 9 different cards that even in decks that would benefit from setting a different one (illusions setting the trap that specials for example) there’s no reason to and the deck would be better just summoning jet synchron or ash. For snake eye and its variants it removes 8 starters, makes bonfire a worse extender if you have to grab poplar and most importantly changes the deck from the boring one card combo into a more interesting deck that would necessitate a greater engine requirement. Ash going to 1 as well would be good too but wanted is not a problem card inherently.
I think as a community we need to start asking Konami to limit branded fusion haha. Branded is a deck that everyone only complains about the “problem of the week” cards. Sanctifire ban is good but long term we need to demand a branded fusion limit.
I hope to Christ they hit tenpai in some way. Best thing they could do is ban magna so they can’t full combo in my end phase while also disrupting my plays. Just ban magna please god, let us have chaos space back for its sins
If they decide to have a heavy hand, flamberge to 0 but keep all the other cards at 3. Kinda like kitkallos to 0 in impacts, still playable but no longer the best deck by a lot
Yap, that could work for sure. Don't hate that approach either.
Spyral fiendsmith with master to one beatrice it to grave then red car it back 🍳
That sounds kinda dangerous haha.
Majespetor Unicorn Kirin to 3 card has done nothing
@@HutchJE That’s what I’m saying.
fiendsmith broken engine will just open the gates for random bans left and right to cards that otherwise would never get banned just so they keep the fiendsmith around and sell their boosters.. should get the SHS treatment and ban the link 1 from the very beginning..
UNBAN THE PLAN!!! 🕵️♀️
As someone who has loved Spyral since the release of Double Helix.
( and maybe I’m outdated and wrong ) but now a days if you can’t fit like 12 hand traps in your deck it’s not AS able to top it seems.
Spyral has so much engine that it needs to be as consistent as it can be that I just don’t think it will be anything more then like a tier 2.5 deck.
That's what I'm thinking to be honest. And I'm not even biased as I never really liked the deck.
Free my friend pankratops
Relatable.
Imo we r getting to a point where it might happen something like what happened with vanguard, but with the luxury of a banlist. The powercreep of snake-eye fiendsmith is too big, we for shure need a reset banlist that touches it in a big way, ban Beatrice, apo, limiting skill drain to one at least, along with deck lockdown and other floodgates banned, Albion banned, shifter, barrier, simul archfiend, shared ride and other lingering floodgates also banned… there is too much bullshit rn in the game. But if a list like what I just mentioned happens, we would be getting the healthiest, most fun, most balanced, greatest format of all times, at least in my opinion
@@joseprojo975 Yap. At some point that might be coming.
Brilliant fusion please
Could see that one actually.
@@Lampi_Ygo garnet always gets drawn either way
Free master peace 🤴
Another decent call that would very certainly be fine.
Dragonic Diagram to 3.
@@ggfreeman90 I’m all here for it.
W takes
Circular to one, please 🙏
Honestly yes. Even though Josh would probably have an outrage about it haha.
Never
@@kekegegege eww fk no
I wish they'd bring back reboot n hit shifter. But Konami sucks
Original sinful spoils banned ist besser als Wanted auf 1 zu setzen.
Flamberge drache und black witch mit auf 1 ash am Anfang auf 2 .
@@erichalbert415 Weiß halt nicht, ob das gemacht wird. Das killt halt die Lore-Connection von Snake-Eye und Diabellstar.
Ja aber meine Meinung ist diese karte die unfairste ,sie lässt snake eyes mit Diabellstar auch als engine in Infernoid synagieren und kannst wie jetsynchro und Fire King engine viel zu Konstant spielen.
Falls die verboten wird kann man snake eyes nicht mit andere Feuer thema so einfach rein splashen und wanted auf 3 ,nimm mal an lässt white wood ,konstanter spielen.
Circular back to 3
@@Turncoat_Carl Let’s start with 1 and work our way back up.
I think if u ban Apo, IP, Zealantis, Beatrice and sanctifier the game would be in a much better spot. One card you haven’t talked about is birth. Kashtira as an engine is so stupid to be put every deck. If they choose to not ban shifter / limit it I would love to see Gamma to come back so at least I wont get shiftert in DP. I think gamma promotes smart gameplay and gives also decks more chances going second. With barone banned it’s also not a Omni on board right away they can also ban omega if they want I just want an answer to cards like shifter / droll. Wild take I know ..
@@TheKarlBaum I was also always a fan of Gamma. But lately in Master Duel I have realized how crazy the card really is. The card is fine going second and really good going first in a lot of cases too.
You say everyone plays 3 fenrir and 3 talents and you hate fenrir but like the idea of talents?
In the last 5 livestreams in eery second game the Player who resolved talents won the game.
Fenrir is definatly not the problem.
Punishing your oponent for just trying to get not killed is a problem.
You just try to stop the combo by using ash. Fine talents Look at Hand shuffel back veiler. Use an extender and gg. Or even worse shuffel back your one starter and good like for your topdeck.
Going second you have 3 interuptions. Your oponent forces you to use one because you need to stop him. Cool activate talents take your second interuptions and kill with that your 3. Interuption. Nice now you lost again.
Such a healthy and balanced card for the game. I can really understand why you think fenrir is the problem and not talents.
Valid arguments. Talents also deserves to be limited. I just think Talents is more depending on the format. If we for example head into a Breaker format at some point again Talents is just useless going first. Fenrir pretty much always is good. Going 1st or 2nd. But still Talents is crazy strong in general, yeah.
@@Lampi_Ygo for example you need 3 handtraps and 2 starter so that you will not lose because of that card.
In addition your oppnent knows every card in your Hand so he can easyly play around.
It does not depent on the format it is unfair in anytime
@@lukasunterwaditzer3141 I'm not arguing against Talents being good when resolving. It's just more a factor of it not always being able to resolve and then being a dead card.
Dragon rulers to 3
Valid call.
Colossus to 3
Easily possible.
Free my cat!!! Prank-Kids ova all!!
@@XComicxXxBookX Could absolutely happen too. So many options.
@@Lampi_Ygo honestly it's be a miracle if it did thanks to those dumb rock decks using it.
Zenmaity to 3
@@infinitegaming1015 Bring it on.
Going after Skill Drain will happen 100% unfortunately. My one and only true love 😭.
Prosperity to 1 is a weird thing; originally I was all up for it, but I think besides Tenpai mostly Rogue Decks need it to be "strong enough"
And heavy storm is harassing me enough in Tengu Format and Edison. Please don't free it
@@Shinuslaw Haha, Stun enjoyer. 🫡
My list was better, it's a shame they would never do one that big though
Yours was crazy big haha.
Kit to 1, deck sucks, beatrice will inevitably go anyways.
@@vvizard_ Probably a little early. At some point maybe though.
Make TCG best of 1
Why though?
@@Lampi_Ygo skill, and more people will play the game because locals will end before lunch
@@deepwatertrading3530 I think BO3 definitly is more skillfull than BO1. The time argument I can see. 4 Hours for Locals seems fine to me though.
Put spright elf to 1 😌😏
Nah, don't think that's a good idea. To easy to be used in other decks than Spright.