@@sghitza1 thats true i think they agreed who ever comes in front in lap one wins and no team orders, but norris thought only about turn 1 as it is always a problem for him and truth be told i didn’t expect that too..
@AlexAvemClips you just have to look at their interviews prerace. All that Norris was talking about was preserving the 1 2 (the easiest way to win the race). All Piastri was talking about was how he can do one better and go for the win. Norris always putting the team first. Hope he learned his lesson.
@@sghitza1 Norris is Zak’s golden boy until he saw Oscar, the teams have been there for 70 years and will be there for more years to come, your career will never be there, Oscar did the right thing for himself, as Lando should have done a long time ago, i will remind you of Ricciardo’s win in Monza, Norris was faster and he should have started by that time to be ruthless, with that win he would have been a total different driver today, and i fancy Max and yes to all Max haters thats how a champion mentality should be, there are always rules and will always be, and rules are to be broken.. so i feel bad for Lando that he is not ruthless and if it is for a crash go for a crash to defend your point and the results will come eventually..
@@Christian_rose18 Plus he sees Stupid when Stupid shows itself. And McLaren right now and this entire season has been nothing short of Stupid. Results don't lie.
Typical insufferable Brit biased Sky commentary. FFS, if Lando is so good he doesn’t need the help of an Aussie. I doubt you’ll ever hear Oscar whinging about not being favoured.
McLaren have given away so many points this season, the driver's championship is lost, the constructors championship may also slip away with Ferrari in the mix. If McLaren lose either by a few points there will be a lot of reflection. Perhaps Norris will end up at RB or Merc, stranger things have happened in F1.
but lando still got the minimum amount of points needed if he keeps getting 8 points more than verstappen he is going to win the wdc by I think 2 points
Let's face it Piastri will never be a 2nd driver and that's the way it should be, he has too much potential for that. Mclaren has had the overall fastest car this season and they will probably still be fastest for the remaining. If Lando really deserves this championship he should start winning more and not needing someone else's help. Put Hamilton or Alonso in that Mclaren and they both would be leading the championship, I don't have a doubt in my mind. Truth is Lando does not deserve this championship at all
@@elplan3605 I think Oscar has world champion potential. However in the 2024 season, he has no chance in hell to win it. Norris has a really serious chance of winning the 2024 championship. Mclaren should be supporting Norris on this 2024 championship. In the future it may be reversed and it might be Norris expected to support Oscar. What Mclaren is doing is gifting Max the championship. It is really stupid.
@@lungamthwana6020 Yeah, those points Norris got when he was not even close to Max, so he didn't have to chase, really, and there were not other cars at his level yet, with both Mercedes and Ferrari figuring it out, and Piastri gaining experience with a lesser car. So he also didn't need to defend. If those are the conditions for you to win... you probably aren't that good.
That's because Lando is not good enough. The performance in Austria of how not to pass verses Piastri's how to pass without crashing confirmed who is the better racer.
He drove exceptionally in 2016. I always wished he'd stayed on instead of Bottas replacing him, I don't think Hamilton would have his 7 championships if that were the case.
I'm all for letting them fight for the win. But when it comes to the end of the race, McLaren needed to swap their drivers to help Lando in the WDC race. Swapping them changes nothing in their WCC bout with Red Bull. And back in Hungary when they said "You're going to need the team. You're going to need Oscar" feel like empty words now when neither of them helped him today against Max. Again. Let them fight it out for P1, but not swapping them just shows to Lando that he's alone in his fight. BOTH Hamilton and Verstappen relied on their teammate in 2021 for their WDC contention
@@p8ntbawlr210it fucks Piastri over in multiple ways. He gets less time at the front by giving it away, he gets less experience managing a lead, he runs the risk of being stuck in dirty air and attacked by gifting positions, and most important NO ONE CARES next year. Your record is worse and you just gave a massive boost to your main rival. Verstappen was aided by some blocking by a teammate he was beating all on his own. He didn’t need to get gifted wins. Lewis had been gifted wins and look how that worked out for the other guy. Oh yeah, it didn’t.
All Piastri is doing is getting a multi 21 coming his way. Webber stupidly did the same thing to Vettel and tried to sabotage his championship and ended up not winning anything in 2013 and getting his reputation ruined as a shit driver who couldn't win a single race a season his teammate dominated. Given Piatri has still not proven he can legitimately win a race it's going to bite him hard once Lando starts treating him differently.
@@paperplane-db8qfwhat about Lando losing position at the start when you say Oscar didn't "legitimately" win? Lando got ahead thanks to pit stop strategy, not by himself in that race.
Because Piastri was going to pit and they asked a favor for him to stay out to help Lando. There’s a mile of difference between making an agreement they both accept and forcing one driver to gift wins.
@@TheBajaminHow did they help him in Monza? I think Lando will leave McLaren? His mistakes about 30 to 40 points from Canada, Austria, Hungary, England... then until Monza and the team's mistake, now it would be close to Max?
@@batacakarevic2614 Lando can start helping himself by starting better from pole. If he's done that several times this season, he won't be in situations that compromises his own race
Oscar is doing exactly what Lando is supposed to be doing! Show his teammate that he will fight him and make a move if he finds a gap. Lando needs to do the same and take matters into his own hands instead of expecting the team to help him. That being said, McLaren should start prioritising Lando as well since he's still the one who can probably take the title from Max. They need to let Oscar know that he will have a fair shot at it next season. Though if a situation arises where both Max and Lando fail to score in the next couple of races and Oscar scores big points, then he can come into the equation and Mclaren will have to let them fight for it.
just looked at the points. If McLaren had given team orders and prioritized Lando in Hungary and Monza. He would be 9 points closer to Max in the world championship. Which could make the difference at the end of the year. Truly blows my mind McLaren have done what they have done. and the double standard. Im not particularly a Lando fan, but Lando has to get his elbows out and fight full force, ignore team orders from now on, or he risks getting broken forever. Fun times in F1 ;)
Zack browns answers feel like talking to chat GPT. All robotic preprogrammed media PR answers. Guys like this are killing the media and the sport. Tanks Nico for not playing the netflix game.
Nico should know what that means as something similar happened to him when Lewis joined Mercedes and he allowed him to win a race and he said on the radio to his engineers...."You owe me one"
No he was not, Lando was only pitted 1st to save him from being overtaken. Piastri should have been pitted 1st which then Lando would never have been able to catch up let alone pass.
If Lando had given the position immediately he was asked to he'd have had enough time to attack and pass Piastri for the win. Instead he clung onto it like a petulant child and by the time he was moving over, it was too late.
@@xqs329 It was not his position to begin with? wtf are you smoking, Lando was in the lead and Piastri couldnt keep up pace, Lando is in title care Piastri isnt. Learn racing mate...Lando is also McLaren #1 driver
3:15 sums up Maclaren problems (they need lando to do that max thingy, where he's gone after turn 1 into distant horizon, out of drs and 20 sec lead before pit stop😂 ) But lando is not there yet
@@coloradoan2199that’s different, Piastri agreed to let Lando undercut if he gave the position back. Piastri was going to pit. Those times it’s fine if drivers want to do favors. It’s not a racers job to gift wins to other people by not racing them.
Nico is speaking from his experience with Lewis from 2013 , 2014 and 2016. He knows there are juicy bits to chew on for sure in the papaya 😂 The other skyf1 commentators are still obsessed with British driver must get everything, unfortunately. Had lando and piastri swapped countries they would have gone, saying why not piastri as he is not the one losing position at the start.
Lando let Oscar through for his win. After all the bullshit about him needing Oscar. Did fcking Pastry do the same? For someone who is legit in a title fight? Nah instead let me almost run him off
Zak didn’t answer the question of winning the drivers championship… Lando is the closest to Max , priority is to get the driver with the most points more points , right?
@@F1-AVEM sucks though man… cause they basically begged Lando in Hungary, begged and pleaded and he gave it to them, he knew he shouldn’t have , but nice guy Lando did
Lando is slow as hell in opening laps so you want Oscar to compromise his race as well and risk being overtaken by whoever is behind him ? How about, no.
He's never been against team orders, he's always respected and adhered to them, there have been times where he was fighting Hamilton and didn't appreciate a certain order, particularly in 2013 but so what? It was an order going against him. Rubbish and inaccurate comment.
You have 2 teamates separated by 40 points, they arent close on points or they arent both fighting for champioship, one of them is not talk about team orders is insane, what logic is now perez start take points on max for example? Let them race? You have one bad weekend, bit you have been more consistent than your team mate trought the season, now youhave the best car your team wakes up decides he wants tp be number 1 driver, that makes no sense
McLaren are trying to throw it away. They/Lando could easily be within touching distance of the championship lead if they'd prioritized for the win since Miami.
Sounds great but i find it so strange that McL is not supporting a loyal driver as Lando when he has a shot at the WC surely this should have been discussed after Hungary!!! ZB laughing when he says it wash a agressieve pass this pass most likely cost Lando the win.. difficult decisions on the pit wall... Anyway cazy
support one driver or you are not supporting either. if you show cojones that you are going to prioritize and support one driver because of greater chance, the other driver will know when it's his turn he will get similar support. otherwise, they have no idea if the team will ever support the stronger driver. and that is NOT GOOD
Zak just doesnt get it you are either a 2 car team or, like mcLaren....2 one car teams. I think they are doing Lando dirty he is obviously not a "young driver" anymore.
When a team puts a driver that have chances to win a champioship despite the driver making mistakes an not being perfect, and just keep put pressure on him, the team and the public and throwing him under the bus, they dont deserve the constructors title, and i hope lando improves in next races, and nake people remenber the mediocre first half season piastri had
Zak comparing how Mclaren has two #1 drivers like Mercedes did is insane, the only reason Mercedes was able to do that was because they weren't in any competition either than themselves. Mclaren is really not seeing the bigger picture here and they don't have that luxury of having two #1 drivers, they have to back the driver with the the best possibility to win and they aren't seeing that which is again, insane.
Zak is a bad manager cos he dont know when to be authoritative. You can have 2 number one drivers as long as those drivers understand that they are always second to the team.
There is a championship at stake for constructors and possibly driver too if only McLaren would get off the fence and back the driver that is the only one that realistically has any chance of beating Verstappen over the remainder of the season (thats Norris not Piastri). We need to remember that Lando was on pole and his team mate in second grid slot should not have been risking an unecessary challenge in the first few corners, they are from the same team and Piastri is highly unlikely to win this years championship from his current points status. But Piastri (and perhaps McLaren) does not seem to want to support his team mate's battle with Verstappen for the drivers championship. Red Bull are on the back foot and looking vulnerable, every point could make the difference of it going to the wire in the last few races, as we have seen in previous seasons.. Yes Piastri is developing into an exciting driver and is showing the traits of a future champion, but from a team point of view he possibly cost McLaren the Monza win and also Norris a handfull of valuable drivers championship points. McLaren may let it all slip through their fingers.
Hate the panelist. If Lando wants to win he better win. Piastri job is not to give up experience, slow down, spend less time learning to lead the race etc. Lando, if he’s going to win, should do it on his own when against his teammate. His teammate can help block if he’s far behind but it’s not Piastri job to gift him wins.
For me is pretty simple. Sorry Zack, but you don’t know how to manage a winner team! Because of all this mistakes Lando is not going to win and the constructor championship is in jeopardy!
Itll be funny if McLaren lose by a point or two, to red bull or Ferrari, then they have no one to blame but themselves for having 2 number 1 drivers, just stupid strategy
But zack is talking about a one car team and a two car team, but at the moment he has neither. He has a two one-car teams. A two-car team would set clear bounderies, and would favor the leading the driver. There's a reason why sane teams do it like that for the last 40+ years. I kinda feel that, to sign Oscar they had to give him whatever he asked for and we are starting to see the results of that ... Thats my 2 cents..
McLaren knew Ferrari were running extremely low downforce and were quicker in a straight line and wouldn’t be easy to overtake even with drs, so letting their drivers have at and not controlling the pace from 1st and second lost them the race. McLaren were strong enough is sector 2 to put enough of gap between them and Ferrari coming out of parabolic, McLaren are setting a new bench mark when it comes to bottling race wins and the chance of a drivers championship. Beating Ferraris strategy blunders of 2022 looks easily mclarens main priority, the may win the constructors championship but the drivers championship isn’t a concern for them. Lando could have jumped ship many times but he stuck with McLaren and this is how the thank him “remember lando you can’t win the drivers championship without Oscar”!!!
Lando should make Piastri his second driver by just out pacing Poastri him race after race like Max did with Checo. Show your team mate and team you are the better driver. In my eyes Lando and Piastri are equal, Piastri arguable the better of the two. I understand Zac for not holding back Piastri, he will hate the team for it and move on maybe to Red Bull.
Zak is wayy too soft, it's like kids in school, everyone gets a medal no, its not important who wins. Oscar has he win, its time to give as many points possible to lando
Piastri has a lot of talent but the way he is handling this he will not win a title in his career, you cannot whine about it, you need to work with your teammate and you cant make enemies then nobody will want to work with you.Mclaren is also to blame they should be doing everything they can to help Lando win drivers championship. if Ferrari gets hot they can easily over take McLaren in drivers and constructors championship.
You can only support a driver who can race. Lando can't keep the lead on the first lap when starting from pole. How are Mclaren supposed to help him? Lando needs to EARN that, it's not given. This is the second time Piastri is beating him off the line. He botched his start in Hungary but came back to win thanks to Redbull's poor form.
It's clear Lando is not the lead driver . Oscar is the future . Lando is insecure and emotional . Oscar is ice . Oscar has the x factor . It's Oscars time now . Lando blew it
Oscar is not that far behind on points and with how much Max is struggling im sure Oscar feels that he has a good shot if he starts winning races. He’s an alpha and he’s there to win he wont just take it easy and let Lando get it and thats why it’s awesome to see. It’s probably the overtake of the season so far! And it’s game on between the Mclaren drivers lets see how Lando response in the next race. It’s going to be an epic end to this season im sure!!
@@marcpaola1371 Lando is more than that behind Max. So this logic is flawed. 1 dnf for anyone of them changes lot of things. Champions have a never give up mentality and Oscar has that so does Lando and Max.
@@the_JDM_fanatic of course he doesn’t in fact he wants for Lando not to win, because the team will be around Lando the champion then, so don’t blame it on Oscar, any competitive man would do the same..
@@arkangelarkangel1302 yeah of course dude… I don’t support Lando , I do watch f1 though … and find it crazy how they “the Oscar fangirls” cried , begged and pleaded for Oscar to win as team orders and rules - Oscar will go down in history as the first to ever be baby gifted his first ever F1 win 😂😂😂
McLaren don't have a winner's mindset yet. They're too chuffed being 2nd and 3rd. That's nice but it won't get you to 1st because someone else more determined will clamber past you if they have the slightest chance.
McLaren are right to not have team orders, where they just gift Lando a position. Team orders are a detriment to real racing. If Lando wants a championship, he needs to earn it
Should Zak apply team ORDERS..?
They should have more rules of engagement at the very least. Norris clearly didn't expect Piastri to challenge him in turn 4.
@@sghitza1 thats true i think they agreed who ever comes in front in lap one wins and no team orders, but norris thought only about turn 1 as it is always a problem for him and truth be told i didn’t expect that too..
@AlexAvemClips you just have to look at their interviews prerace. All that Norris was talking about was preserving the 1 2 (the easiest way to win the race). All Piastri was talking about was how he can do one better and go for the win. Norris always putting the team first. Hope he learned his lesson.
yes, if the want to beat Verstappen to the driver's championship; if else, than no, he shouldn't.
@@sghitza1 Norris is Zak’s golden boy until he saw Oscar, the teams have been there for 70 years and will be there for more years to come, your career will never be there, Oscar did the right thing for himself, as Lando should have done a long time ago, i will remind you of Ricciardo’s win in Monza, Norris was faster and he should have started by that time to be ruthless, with that win he would have been a total different driver today, and i fancy Max and yes to all Max haters thats how a champion mentality should be, there are always rules and will always be, and rules are to be broken.. so i feel bad for Lando that he is not ruthless and if it is for a crash go for a crash to defend your point and the results will come eventually..
why does nico at the start of the video looks like he's straight up ready to beat zak brown 😂
@@SuperBroomBrooom for not giving team orders.. Nico has been there and knows what will happen in McLaren from now on..
Lmao.
Because what Zack is doing is against logic. No team should want 2 no 1 driver. They should be eyeing for 1 championship driver.
LOL it’s so true. I loved it. It shows the passion he still has for the sport.
@@Christian_rose18 Plus he sees Stupid when Stupid shows itself. And McLaren right now and this entire season has been nothing short of Stupid. Results don't lie.
I don’t usually agree with Nico, but his two questions were right on the money..
@@jeremysnow3030 yep straight on questions..
I normally do too be honest, he speaks a lot of sense for the most part, there are occasional times where he's just spitting hyperbole though.
Typical insufferable Brit biased Sky commentary. FFS, if Lando is so good he doesn’t need the help of an Aussie. I doubt you’ll ever hear Oscar whinging about not being favoured.
Sky F1 needs to pay Nico Rosberg to come to every race.
Please no he’s terrible and insanely biased.
This! lol yes
Is there anyone from sky that isn't? Rosberg does a great job and people are aware he's a world champion with Mercedes
Loooooove how Nico pressed him! Like WHAT ARE YOU DOING ZAK?? 😅
McLaren have given away so many points this season, the driver's championship is lost, the constructors championship may also slip away with Ferrari in the mix. If McLaren lose either by a few points there will be a lot of reflection. Perhaps Norris will end up at RB or Merc, stranger things have happened in F1.
@@LeoSavantt Lando Max at RB😂 is career ending decision..
@@F1-AVEMthat is a recipe for disaster that's like lewis and rosberg
but lando still got the minimum amount of points needed if he keeps getting 8 points more than verstappen he is going to win the wdc by I think 2 points
@@sedwars3616 Better than losing by two, either way there is racing to be enjoyed this year, thank goodness.
@@LeoSavantt yep that's true I have enjoyed this season a lot
Honestly, considering Nico’s questions, Zak Brown responded super professional.
It’s very rare I agree with Nico but he’s spot on. Oscar at the moment is doing more to help Max win the championship than Perez is.
Let's face it Piastri will never be a 2nd driver and that's the way it should be, he has too much potential for that. Mclaren has had the overall fastest car this season and they will probably still be fastest for the remaining. If Lando really deserves this championship he should start winning more and not needing someone else's help.
Put Hamilton or Alonso in that Mclaren and they both would be leading the championship, I don't have a doubt in my mind. Truth is Lando does not deserve this championship at all
@@elplan3605 I think Oscar has world champion potential. However in the 2024 season, he has no chance in hell to win it. Norris has a really serious chance of winning the 2024 championship.
Mclaren should be supporting Norris on this 2024 championship. In the future it may be reversed and it might be Norris expected to support Oscar.
What Mclaren is doing is gifting Max the championship. It is really stupid.
@@lungamthwana6020 Yeah, those points Norris got when he was not even close to Max, so he didn't have to chase, really, and there were not other cars at his level yet, with both Mercedes and Ferrari figuring it out, and Piastri gaining experience with a lesser car.
So he also didn't need to defend.
If those are the conditions for you to win... you probably aren't that good.
Verstapen is a strong contender but with the way McLaren is doing. Lando might as well forget about winning driver's championship
That's because Lando is not good enough. The performance in Austria of how not to pass verses Piastri's how to pass without crashing confirmed who is the better racer.
HATED Nico as a driver but LOVE Nico as a no holds barred pundit. He’s brilliant and now think he should get back in the car!
@@tomcrookes5689 well too late for that.. how old is he, he is the only one to beat Lewis to a championship in a same car tho..
He drove exceptionally in 2016. I always wished he'd stayed on instead of Bottas replacing him, I don't think Hamilton would have his 7 championships if that were the case.
Zak Brown on that Ozempic..
He loses one pound of weight for every point the team throws away. They are just looking out for his health.
lmao😂
They went racing... Let them.
they also sacrificed a mcl 1-2
@@aarrodri yeah. WDC means nothing. 🙄
Meanwhile no racing allowed at Hungary for some reason. Just whenever it screws over Lando then racing is allowed.
I'm all for letting them fight for the win. But when it comes to the end of the race, McLaren needed to swap their drivers to help Lando in the WDC race. Swapping them changes nothing in their WCC bout with Red Bull. And back in Hungary when they said "You're going to need the team. You're going to need Oscar" feel like empty words now when neither of them helped him today against Max.
Again. Let them fight it out for P1, but not swapping them just shows to Lando that he's alone in his fight. BOTH Hamilton and Verstappen relied on their teammate in 2021 for their WDC contention
@@p8ntbawlr210it fucks Piastri over in multiple ways. He gets less time at the front by giving it away, he gets less experience managing a lead, he runs the risk of being stuck in dirty air and attacked by gifting positions, and most important NO ONE CARES next year. Your record is worse and you just gave a massive boost to your main rival. Verstappen was aided by some blocking by a teammate he was beating all on his own. He didn’t need to get gifted wins. Lewis had been gifted wins and look how that worked out for the other guy. Oh yeah, it didn’t.
Everyone becomes an expert after the event 😂. I personally want to see a race , Lando fluffed it.
Its just common sense that you should support your driver who has a chance of winning wdc
Racers race . Senna said if there is a gap you go for it . If you don't you are not a racer . Oscar is a racer and is exposing Landos deficiencies
@@wooloongabba no problem with that but Mclaren should stop that because Lando can litteraly win wdc if they even thought about helping him
@@wooloongabba so youre saying youd rather win 1 title than 2 titles?
@@wooloongabbaSenna was wrong in this regard.
Nico is just being a journalist. No way he wouldn't have done the same and not taken the opportunity to overtake Lando if he were in the same position
But if he was McLaren Team boss, we would be the first one to give out team order.
All Piastri is doing is getting a multi 21 coming his way. Webber stupidly did the same thing to Vettel and tried to sabotage his championship and ended up not winning anything in 2013 and getting his reputation ruined as a shit driver who couldn't win a single race a season his teammate dominated.
Given Piatri has still not proven he can legitimately win a race it's going to bite him hard once Lando starts treating him differently.
@@paperplane-db8qfYuup! This is the beginning of the end of piatri’s career. I’m a firm believer they should’ve let him stay at Alpine.
@@paperplane-db8qfwhat about Lando losing position at the start when you say Oscar didn't "legitimately" win? Lando got ahead thanks to pit stop strategy, not by himself in that race.
So why did they ask Norris to give up the victory in Hungary? I support McLaren, but they took away 20-30 points from the guy?
God, why?
Because Piastri was going to pit and they asked a favor for him to stay out to help Lando. There’s a mile of difference between making an agreement they both accept and forcing one driver to gift wins.
@@TheBajaminHow did they help him in Monza? I think Lando will leave McLaren? His mistakes about 30 to 40 points from Canada, Austria, Hungary, England... then until Monza and the team's mistake,
now it would be close to Max?
@@batacakarevic2614 they don’t have to help him. That’s the entire point. Your team mate, unless in his contract, owes you NOTHING.
@@batacakarevic2614 Lando can start helping himself by starting better from pole. If he's done that several times this season, he won't be in situations that compromises his own race
@@errolglenn4548 If it weren't for the mistakes of the driver and Mclaren, Lando would be only 10-15 points behind Max, but...
Oscar is doing exactly what Lando is supposed to be doing! Show his teammate that he will fight him and make a move if he finds a gap. Lando needs to do the same and take matters into his own hands instead of expecting the team to help him. That being said, McLaren should start prioritising Lando as well since he's still the one who can probably take the title from Max. They need to let Oscar know that he will have a fair shot at it next season. Though if a situation arises where both Max and Lando fail to score in the next couple of races and Oscar scores big points, then he can come into the equation and Mclaren will have to let them fight for it.
Haha Nico is ruthless. Zak has had some good PR training but he was tap-dancing a bit here, lol!
Rosberg asking about team orders?
Oh, please. 😂👍
just looked at the points. If McLaren had given team orders and prioritized Lando in Hungary and Monza. He would be 9 points closer to Max in the world championship. Which could make the difference at the end of the year. Truly blows my mind McLaren have done what they have done. and the double standard. Im not particularly a Lando fan, but Lando has to get his elbows out and fight full force, ignore team orders from now on, or he risks getting broken forever. Fun times in F1 ;)
Zack browns answers feel like talking to chat GPT. All robotic preprogrammed media PR answers. Guys like this are killing the media and the sport. Tanks Nico for not playing the netflix game.
Nico should know what that means as something similar happened to him when Lewis joined Mercedes and he allowed him to win a race and he said on the radio to his engineers...."You owe me one"
@@stormforce7599 He got this one when he beg for SLH engineering team n get it!!
The subtitles are cooked, Leclerc got callde Leclair and "the clerk"
Lando was forced to give Piastri a win because he was going to need Piastri... But we only saw a enemy on Sunday.
No, he was forced to give back the position because it was not his position to begin with.
@xqs329 what is even the point of racing beyond lap 1? You think someone like Max would be okay with that?
No he was not, Lando was only pitted 1st to save him from being overtaken. Piastri should have been pitted 1st which then Lando would never have been able to catch up let alone pass.
If Lando had given the position immediately he was asked to he'd have had enough time to attack and pass Piastri for the win. Instead he clung onto it like a petulant child and by the time he was moving over, it was too late.
@@xqs329 It was not his position to begin with? wtf are you smoking, Lando was in the lead and Piastri couldnt keep up pace, Lando is in title care Piastri isnt. Learn racing mate...Lando is also McLaren #1 driver
3:15 sums up Maclaren problems (they need lando to do that max thingy, where he's gone after turn 1 into distant horizon, out of drs and 20 sec lead before pit stop😂 )
But lando is not there yet
Say what you want about, nico. He straight up ask the right questions. No BS in him when it comes to racing.
Loving the couple in the background at 1:32
"Thought you had a friend?" Boom! Oscar to Lando.
Lando should have never slowed up to let Oscar win earlier
Nico looking like he's gonna strike Blood in the opening...
Nico going beast mode. I usually don’t like the guy but dang he’s totally on point here.
Seriously Oscar move was exactly what racers do! Stop protecting Lando..
@@darensavy5014 it’s not Lando. It’s the WDC…a huge money win for the team. Why do you think Merc and RB go after so hard.
Lando's decision to give in to the team's pleas and hand Piastri the win at Hungaroring now seems regrettable and ill-advised.
Hungary team radio: "Lando, you can't win the Championship on your own. You're going to need Oscar."
@@coloradoan2199that’s different, Piastri agreed to let Lando undercut if he gave the position back. Piastri was going to pit. Those times it’s fine if drivers want to do favors. It’s not a racers job to gift wins to other people by not racing them.
Nico is speaking from his experience with Lewis from 2013 , 2014 and 2016. He knows there are juicy bits to chew on for sure in the papaya 😂
The other skyf1 commentators are still obsessed with British driver must get everything, unfortunately. Had lando and piastri swapped countries they would have gone, saying why not piastri as he is not the one losing position at the start.
@@whiteroommenace well yeah the British bias is all over the place..
Yes!! Nico we love you.
I’m an Oscar fan but Lando should be enjoying the team solely focussed on his world championship run post summer break.
Andrea Stella is having a Binotto-like involution.
Great transition.
@@SamuraiSameer thanks😃
Great Questions ! How is Zak not mad as hell leaving points for the team out there just cause. Loco!
Imo of Lando didnt fuck up his exit on the last corner, it would be 1-2 ish. Lando keeps fucking up the starts. Still a fan, but he is
I'm now a McLaren fan . .for letting them race
They didn’t let them race in Hungayry, isn’t it?
Team rules will apply from now on. That's the conclusion from this interview.
McLaren repeating Baku 2018 is a matter of time,probably this season
Norris doesn't have the speed and talent to justify "team orders"... Piastri is faster...
If mclaren keep doing this their not going to win anything i think will carry on like this
Brilliant move by Oscar, pass of the race, Lando would've done the same
Lando proved in Hungary and Monza a few years back that he will play the team game even to the detriment of his WDC challenge and career stats
Lando let Oscar through for his win. After all the bullshit about him needing Oscar. Did fcking Pastry do the same? For someone who is legit in a title fight? Nah instead let me almost run him off
Piastri is looking like a bad team player acting like he is ahead in the championship. I would get rid off him.
No, not really, Lando would've blown it and gone off the track, or run into Oscar.
@@Kuromori-v9z agreed
Zak didn’t answer the question of winning the drivers championship… Lando is the closest to Max , priority is to get the driver with the most points more points , right?
@@the_JDM_fanatic Oscar will never allow that..
@@F1-AVEM sucks though man… cause they basically begged Lando in Hungary, begged and pleaded and he gave it to them, he knew he shouldn’t have , but nice guy Lando did
Lando is slow as hell in opening laps so you want Oscar to compromise his race as well and risk being overtaken by whoever is behind him ? How about, no.
Zack is going to piss away the WDC.
Priorty for teams is to win the constructors title, driver title is a bonus for the driver.
@@rodthewelder3360 wrong. It’s also huge money for the team, and the value of the franchise goes up, sponsorships are more lucrative.
How did Andreas say who was quicker in quali. The time sheet doesn't lie?
The guy who was against team orders in his racing days is advocating for team orders... What a joke 🤣
Exactly!
Nico knows team orders basically means neutering one of the drivers, he is stoking the fire
He's never been against team orders, he's always respected and adhered to them, there have been times where he was fighting Hamilton and didn't appreciate a certain order, particularly in 2013 but so what? It was an order going against him. Rubbish and inaccurate comment.
@@harrychalcraft6371ya people who only watch highlights tend to form absurd opinions that have no basis in reality
You have 2 teamates separated by 40 points, they arent close on points or they arent both fighting for champioship, one of them is not talk about team orders is insane, what logic is now perez start take points on max for example? Let them race? You have one bad weekend, bit you have been more consistent than your team mate trought the season, now youhave the best car your team wakes up decides he wants tp be number 1 driver, that makes no sense
McLaren are trying to throw it away. They/Lando could easily be within touching distance of the championship lead if they'd prioritized for the win since Miami.
F1 has and will always been won with team order in place....
Andreea explained it as it was
Love watching these 2 fighting each other and fumbled a race win. Bigger chances for Max to win his 2024 world title 😄
I can think of a few Maclaren drivers who were definitely number 2. Zac needs to stop worrying about upsetting Piastri
Ask Toto when he said. If u crash again u will pay the damages yourselves
Sounds great but i find it so strange that McL is not supporting a loyal driver as Lando when he has a shot at the WC surely this should have been discussed after Hungary!!! ZB laughing when he says it wash a agressieve pass this pass most likely cost Lando the win.. difficult decisions on the pit wall... Anyway cazy
INSTEAD of having a common enemy which is max
now they created enemies within their own team...
great job brownie!
Papaya rules or Australian rules?!
Yea same old sht if they favoured lando you would say british favouritism, they didn't give Oscar an edge lando did.
By the looks of it , they will win either way.
The constructors yes bt not apparent that they will take driver championship
I'm Lando's people, I'm watching All This & showing him. Hear that, Mr. Norris?! Adam???
Body language was the answer.
support one driver
or you are not supporting either.
if you show cojones that you are going to prioritize and support one driver because of greater chance,
the other driver will know when it's his turn he will get similar support.
otherwise, they have no idea if the team will ever support the stronger driver.
and that is NOT GOOD
It'll come to the point when Zak smashes a table when the inevitable happens... Pulling a Nico and Lewis in Spain for example
Zak just doesnt get it you are either a 2 car team or, like mcLaren....2 one car teams. I think they are doing Lando dirty he is obviously not a "young driver" anymore.
When a team puts a driver that have chances to win a champioship despite the driver making mistakes an not being perfect, and just keep put pressure on him, the team and the public and throwing him under the bus, they dont deserve the constructors title, and i hope lando improves in next races, and nake people remenber the mediocre first half season piastri had
Zak comparing how Mclaren has two #1 drivers like Mercedes did is insane, the only reason Mercedes was able to do that was because they weren't in any competition either than themselves. Mclaren is really not seeing the bigger picture here and they don't have that luxury of having two #1 drivers, they have to back the driver with the the best possibility to win and they aren't seeing that which is again, insane.
Usually, I dislike nico, but good questions
How much has Oscar's team paid them for these clauses in his contract
Zak is a bad manager cos he dont know when to be authoritative. You can have 2 number one drivers as long as those drivers understand that they are always second to the team.
There is a championship at stake for constructors and possibly driver too if only McLaren would get off the fence and back the driver that is the only one that realistically has any chance of beating Verstappen over the remainder of the season (thats Norris not Piastri). We need to remember that Lando was on pole and his team mate in second grid slot should not have been risking an unecessary challenge in the first few corners, they are from the same team and Piastri is highly unlikely to win this years championship from his current points status. But Piastri (and perhaps McLaren) does not seem to want to support his team mate's battle with Verstappen for the drivers championship. Red Bull are on the back foot and looking vulnerable, every point could make the difference of it going to the wire in the last few races, as we have seen in previous seasons..
Yes Piastri is developing into an exciting driver and is showing the traits of a future champion, but from a team point of view he possibly cost McLaren the Monza win and also Norris a handfull of valuable drivers championship points. McLaren may let it all slip through their fingers.
Papaya octopussy rules 😂
lando should have gone to red bull when he could
He still can, his fangirls can go with him
Hate the panelist. If Lando wants to win he better win. Piastri job is not to give up experience, slow down, spend less time learning to lead the race etc. Lando, if he’s going to win, should do it on his own when against his teammate. His teammate can help block if he’s far behind but it’s not Piastri job to gift him wins.
For me is pretty simple. Sorry Zack, but you don’t know how to manage a winner team! Because of all this mistakes Lando is not going to win and the constructor championship is in jeopardy!
Itll be funny if McLaren lose by a point or two, to red bull or Ferrari, then they have no one to blame but themselves for having 2 number 1 drivers, just stupid strategy
Ngl, Nico gave me Lauda vibes during this interview. Ruthless facts that can't, and shouldn't be ignored
we need more drivers like Piastri.
drivers who beg for team orders to get their only race win?
But zack is talking about a one car team and a two car team, but at the moment he has neither. He has a two one-car teams.
A two-car team would set clear bounderies, and would favor the leading the driver.
There's a reason why sane teams do it like that for the last 40+ years.
I kinda feel that, to sign Oscar they had to give him whatever he asked for and we are starting to see the results of that ...
Thats my 2 cents..
McLaren knew Ferrari were running extremely low downforce and were quicker in a straight line and wouldn’t be easy to overtake even with drs, so letting their drivers have at and not controlling the pace from 1st and second lost them the race. McLaren were strong enough is sector 2 to put enough of gap between them and Ferrari coming out of parabolic, McLaren are setting a new bench mark when it comes to bottling race wins and the chance of a drivers championship. Beating Ferraris strategy blunders of 2022 looks easily mclarens main priority, the may win the constructors championship but the drivers championship isn’t a concern for them. Lando could have jumped ship many times but he stuck with McLaren and this is how the thank him “remember lando you can’t win the drivers championship without Oscar”!!!
They almost thrown any chance of the driver’s championship away with that move 🤦♂️
How can you say that Zac brown! Surely lando should have Oscar protect him so make a great effort for the drivers championship
Lando should make Piastri his second driver by just out pacing Poastri him race after race like Max did with Checo. Show your team mate and team you are the better driver. In my eyes Lando and Piastri are equal, Piastri arguable the better of the two. I understand Zac for not holding back Piastri, he will hate the team for it and move on maybe to Red Bull.
Nico is German, he sees through any b.s
Who's Lake Clerk?.... great subtitles.
Zak is wayy too soft, it's like kids in school, everyone gets a medal no, its not important who wins. Oscar has he win, its time to give as many points possible to lando
Piastri has a lot of talent but the way he is handling this he will not win a title in his career, you cannot whine about it, you need to work with your teammate and you cant make enemies then nobody will want to work with you.Mclaren is also to blame they should be doing everything they can to help Lando win drivers championship. if Ferrari gets hot they can easily over take McLaren in drivers and constructors championship.
When did oscar ever whine? That's like the biggest buzzword that f1 'fans' like to throw around
After gifting wins to Ricciardo and Piastri, I hope Norris ignores all future orders to give his teammate a win.
Hahahahahaha . Gifting? You think he isn't to blame for the starts? 😂
We believe in having 2 number 1s🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Orange is the new red
Well number 1s we have several through out the day but only one number 2 in the morning after the coffee😂
That's foolishness... If McLaren doesn't support Lando for the driver's championship then why is he there
You can only support a driver who can race. Lando can't keep the lead on the first lap when starting from pole. How are Mclaren supposed to help him? Lando needs to EARN that, it's not given. This is the second time Piastri is beating him off the line. He botched his start in Hungary but came back to win thanks to Redbull's poor form.
Exactly
It's clear Lando is not the lead driver . Oscar is the future . Lando is insecure and emotional . Oscar is ice . Oscar has the x factor . It's Oscars time now . Lando blew it
Lando has no chance at catching Max...lets be real
@@wooloongabba Oscar is P4 in the WDC while Lando is P2 so it is not Oscars time now...maybe next season
Team orders when he's 62 points behind in the championship. give me a spell geez
lol Nico
Oscar is not that far behind on points and with how much Max is struggling im sure Oscar feels that he has a good shot if he starts winning races. He’s an alpha and he’s there to win he wont just take it easy and let Lando get it and thats why it’s awesome to see. It’s probably the overtake of the season so far! And it’s game on between the Mclaren drivers lets see how Lando response in the next race. It’s going to be an epic end to this season im sure!!
Oscar is 50 points behind Lando, he is absolutely nowhere near competing for the title.
@@marcpaola1371 Lando is more than that behind Max. So this logic is flawed. 1 dnf for anyone of them changes lot of things. Champions have a never give up mentality and Oscar has that so does Lando and Max.
Oscar doesn’t seem to care about Landos championship or being a TEAM????
Norris and his fangirls are crybabies
@@the_JDM_fanatic of course he doesn’t in fact he wants for Lando not to win, because the team will be around Lando the champion then, so don’t blame it on Oscar, any competitive man would do the same..
@@F1-AVEM I hear you man but then the team shouldn’t have carried on like they did in Hungary then
@@arkangelarkangel1302 yeah of course dude… I don’t support Lando , I do watch f1 though … and find it crazy how they “the Oscar fangirls” cried , begged and pleaded for Oscar to win as team orders and rules - Oscar will go down in history as the first to ever be baby gifted his first ever F1 win 😂😂😂
McLaren don't have a winner's mindset yet. They're too chuffed being 2nd and 3rd. That's nice but it won't get you to 1st because someone else more determined will clamber past you if they have the slightest chance.
It depends on what is important to McClaren, isn't it? I think WDC is more important for them at this point, so...let them race. Very simple.
I can't wait to see when both McLarens crash into each other on papaya rules .And see what Zack's response will be 😂
Adrian Newey sank the RB
I believe that to the day he was out maybe he sent an anonymous text to FIA about the brake balance😂
Zak is going mess up a championship chance if he doesn’t sort this out.
Sir Nico pees outside ...
it was a mistake by Lando to let Leclerc pass him
it was a mistake by McLaren to let Ferrari pass Oscar
McLaren are right to not have team orders, where they just gift Lando a position. Team orders are a detriment to real racing. If Lando wants a championship, he needs to earn it