Unmesh: See how surface blur fixes the banding. TH-cam: *Compresses the CRAP out of the video* Me: Imagines that the banding is gone, because Unmesh knows what he's talking about 😂😂
This is a great tutorial. I used the concept to remove banding from a client's photo. They only had a high-resolution inkjet scanned image. The banding was caused by the inkjet print. I was able to use your technique using adding surface blur, adding noise, and then gaussian blur as a basis to retouch the image. I next worked with the mask around the banding areas and adjusted the levels to make the image appear more natural. You ROCK sir! Thanks again for the tutorial.
What a coincidence! I was just working on some photos last night that had some banding issues in the sky. It was very frustrating because I'm still not an experienced or very skilled Photoshop user. Heck, I didn't even know it was called "banding." I believe this video will help me solve those banding issues when I re-edit those photos later today. Thank you.
I don't know what files you are editing Jim, but if you shot them yourself you usually get more banding in JPEG's than you do in RAW images. You may or may not be aware of this. I wish someone had told me sooner.
@@Gee-Wizz Yes, these were JPEG files - photos I shot about 10 years ago, before I had a camera that would shoot RAW. But I have also experienced this problem in RAW (converted to TIFF in PS) as a result of enlarging the original photos. I don't usually do that, but had a couple I wanted to print a little larger than they were meant to be.
Great Video Unmesh! While I was working at a Printer, we would get banding problems all of the time. Even if you don't see the banding on your monitor, it can still be present. Go through your channels and you will see how bad the banding problem is. If the banding is too bad and adding noise will not completely get rid of it, use Spatter. Apply spatter into every Channel you feel that needs it. Filter > Brush Strokes > Spatter. (I believe Spatter is one of those features that is initially hidden so you will need to go into your settings to reveal it) Spatter along with Noise will go a long way with helping get rid of banding. I would suggest cycling through your channels on a regular basis as a good habit to develop. It will show any problems you have in your files that you might not see in your normal CMYK or RGB viewing mode.
Watching your videos without letting you know how helpful they are, is like a burglar entering your house to take away part of your wealth without your awareness. Now, you not feeling the loss means you're truly blessed abundantly, but that doesn't justify the act of taking it without your consent. Therefore I want you to know that I watch most of your videos and they have been highly useful to me. Thanks for the videos and the motivations. Cheers
Very good video. It's like you read my mind whenever I've got a difficulty in photoshop because you post the topic if you havent posted it before. Thanks for all the help mate.
Your video was very clear and easy to follow. I also appreciated the text instructions as well as the verbal instructions. I feel confident that I can try this on my photos and find success.
Great videos for people who already have a good working knowledge of PS. No time wasted explaining the basics,so more time is spent actually demonstrating the techniques. No time spent on self-aggrandizing, either. Ol boy gets right to it. The subject matter might be a little dense for beginners, but there are other channels that cater to that.
Thank you so much “Prof.” Dinda!!! Sometimes I forget to make sure that I’m working in 16 bit, and this video really saved me a ton of time, trying to go back and re-edit after having built layers already!
Surface blur and adding noise are solid, I do variations on those all the time to remove banding, but the second technique of just adding texture isn't so much an option as it is a last resort because you're likely changing what you intended with your image. Adding texture can get rid of banding almost immediately, but if your whole intent was to have a smooth gradation, it's probably not in most people's interest to just add grunge to an otherwise smooth transition or grad.
Thank you so much! You're the best! I just used your first technique to get rid of a ton of noisy colored pixels that was ruining one of my images. It was an older one from 2006 and not the best quality, but it looks so much better now.
○ Adding texture is the same as encapsulating texture. Literally a couple days ago I was solving that issue. ►I decided went to lab in 16 bit surely and not only blurred colour in a and b per channel, but also easily mapped that lines by stamp or healing brush: clipping occured there in different places of image. So now that cat's picture is clipping free :3
I got this problem today while working on the background for an illustration. It surprised me because I have done gradients before without this problem. Noise and grain didn't seem to work so well (it somehow created different bands), but using a texture to hide this effect had a better result. Thank you for the excellent explanations! :)
It will be my fav. tutorial because I design in 3D with lots of lights, shadows and shapes.. when I use color grading in Photoshop everything fuck up immediately. Thanks champ!
I really do like the second method, obviously it cannot work on all images, but certainly works well for something like this. It may have been just my work PC that has poor quality monitors, but the first method never seemed to get rid of the banding at all.
Do you offer any "remote walk throughs?" I've watched your vid (and a few others) regarding the removal of banding, and NOTHING is working. I need to release the photos in a month and until I figure out how to fix the issue (and potentially stop it from happening again) I don't want to retouch the other photos from the set, which will require similar retouching and therefore will likely have the same banding issue. PLEASE HELP!
For my project, I had the benefit that it was something I was creating within Photoshop. I had some intersecting gradients and got banding. At first I tried just adding noise, but when that just resulted in noisy bands, I had the 16-bit "a ha" moment. See, my video editor uses floating-point operations when processing the image. That means there are shades between the shades, and there are whites that are whiter than white, and blacks that are darker than black. And then it gets collapsed to 8-bit right at the end. Using a 16-bit middle man before the blur and the noise makes a ton of sense.
It might be worth it to upload this one to HQ version to Vimeo or make a (high bit-rate) video file downloadable on a different platform, because the changes that you make are tough to see through the heavy TH-cam compression. If you already under the concept of banding pretty well, then you can see get the gist, because explanation is quite clear. Unfortunately, TH-cam's compression does not prioritize clarity. Anyway, I still loved the video. I feel like I learn a lot from your tutorials, so thank you.
Youre a star thank you so very much do you know how long Iv been try to get a fix for this problem now I see two (has to be said the compression in TH-cam made me wonder about the 1st fix) But liked & subscribed
I just learned more from this one video than I did in a Photoshop class in college... Amazing, and exactly what I was looking for because banding has been a huge issue for me (plus masking, but that's another story...)! Thank you so much for sharing this with the world!
You can also achieve this with the Frosted Glass filter set to 100% scale, smoothness of 1 and a strength from 1-5. This will effectively "dither" your background and eliminate banding.
Try uploading this video to Vimeo and see if your technique looks better? I think Vimeos compression is much less destructive. It would be a good experiment Vimeo vs TH-cam.
I usually use Surface Blur after the noise, I prefer to use Camera RAW noise with settings: 5 or 10, 25, 50. After that Surface Blur with 40-60 and 2-4. This will make the noise and banding much more realistic.
When this didn't work for my specific image (a lightly graded sky), I got frustrated and tried upgrading the image to 32-bit and then back down to 16 bit.... I have no idea what I did or how it worked, but I feel I've cheated the system somehow and will pay in the end. I just can't figure out how there's any detriment to doing it this way. Thoughts?
To anyone who still has this problem : go to color management and try changing color profile and see if it helps or check your monitor menu and change color settings there.
It almost feels wrong getting all of this information for free. Man, I can’t thank you enough! You’re amazing.
You can always support him on Patreon.
Definitely consider dropping a few dollars on his Patreon, anywhere else you'd be paying hundreds of dollars for this level of teaching.
@@hallwayraptor2036 The dude has 4 million subscribers and 308 million video views. He's making a killing just on TH-cam monetization alone.
Unmesh: See how surface blur fixes the banding.
TH-cam: *Compresses the CRAP out of the video*
Me: Imagines that the banding is gone, because Unmesh knows what he's talking about 😂😂
😅😅😅😅😅😅 me too
Same 😆
Yahh .. same thing we are assuming .. TH-cam compresses and bring back those bandings 😂😂
😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣
Thanks!
This is a great tutorial. I used the concept to remove banding from a client's photo. They only had a high-resolution inkjet scanned image. The banding was caused by the inkjet print. I was able to use your technique using adding surface blur, adding noise, and then gaussian blur as a basis to retouch the image. I next worked with the mask around the banding areas and adjusted the levels to make the image appear more natural. You ROCK sir! Thanks again for the tutorial.
What a coincidence! I was just working on some photos last night that had some banding issues in the sky. It was very frustrating because I'm still not an experienced or very skilled Photoshop user. Heck, I didn't even know it was called "banding." I believe this video will help me solve those banding issues when I re-edit those photos later today. Thank you.
I don't know what files you are editing Jim, but if you shot them yourself you usually get more banding in JPEG's than you do in RAW images.
You may or may not be aware of this. I wish someone had told me sooner.
@@Gee-Wizz Yes, these were JPEG files - photos I shot about 10 years ago, before I had a camera that would shoot RAW. But I have also experienced this problem in RAW (converted to TIFF in PS) as a result of enlarging the original photos. I don't usually do that, but had a couple I wanted to print a little larger than they were meant to be.
Great Video Unmesh! While I was working at a Printer, we would get banding problems all of the time. Even if you don't see the banding on your monitor, it can still be present. Go through your channels and you will see how bad the banding problem is. If the banding is too bad and adding noise will not completely get rid of it, use Spatter. Apply spatter into every Channel you feel that needs it. Filter > Brush Strokes > Spatter. (I believe Spatter is one of those features that is initially hidden so you will need to go into your settings to reveal it) Spatter along with Noise will go a long way with helping get rid of banding. I would suggest cycling through your channels on a regular basis as a good habit to develop. It will show any problems you have in your files that you might not see in your normal CMYK or RGB viewing mode.
Ingenious! Just saved hours with this technique. TH-cam compression does create banding. 💩
I just found this video and I needed it a few days ago. 😭 I had to post the photo with banding. I hate it. 😭
PS: Didn't know it was called banding.
Red color is the worst to to pick for this video, as the video compression ruins it (compresses it) the most.
Yes, it's a flow of the H.264 codec.
Watching your videos without letting you know how helpful they are, is like a burglar entering your house to take away part of your wealth without your awareness. Now, you not feeling the loss means you're truly blessed abundantly, but that doesn't justify the act of taking it without your consent. Therefore I want you to know that I watch most of your videos and they have been highly useful to me. Thanks for the videos and the motivations. Cheers
Wow man thanks, I have been watching your videos for a while and what your doing is helping lots of people, thanks man
Your tutorials are incredibly insightful and bring Photoshop to the common man. Thank you!
Very good video. It's like you read my mind whenever I've got a difficulty in photoshop because you post the topic if you havent posted it before. Thanks for all the help mate.
We would be lost without you
Omg you are a genius!!!! It was like magic with 16 bit!!!!! Thank you 🙏
Dude, your channel is great. You have a great personality, your production values are terrific and you are very enthusiastic about teaching. Kudos!
Your video was very clear and easy to follow. I also appreciated the text instructions as well as the verbal instructions. I feel confident that I can try this on my photos and find success.
Great videos for people who already have a good working knowledge of PS. No time wasted explaining the basics,so more time is spent actually demonstrating the techniques. No time spent on self-aggrandizing, either. Ol boy gets right to it. The subject matter might be a little dense for beginners, but there are other channels that cater to that.
Thank you so much “Prof.” Dinda!!! Sometimes I forget to make sure that I’m working in 16 bit, and this video really saved me a ton of time, trying to go back and re-edit after having built layers already!
Thanks man,.,.,you saved my time
WHAT AN AMAZING VIDEO!!!!
omg i tried everything! didnt even think to add noise. did the job great man, thanks for your video! :)
Thanks again! I didn't even know that they were called bandings but I've always wanted to get rid of them!
Forgive me mate, I think I should pay you for this,, but anyway Thank u for your kindness sharing this , I subscribed.
Thank you very much sir. This is incredible. I have this very beautiful product shot that has lots of banding, now I can fix it.
Thank you!! AGAIN! YOU ROCK!
Excellent
You saved my life, THANK YOU BROTHER :)
Thank you very much! I could resolve it minutes! You're the best man
Surface blur and adding noise are solid, I do variations on those all the time to remove banding, but the second technique of just adding texture isn't so much an option as it is a last resort because you're likely changing what you intended with your image. Adding texture can get rid of banding almost immediately, but if your whole intent was to have a smooth gradation, it's probably not in most people's interest to just add grunge to an otherwise smooth transition or grad.
Using a texture is brilliant and actually adds to the aesthetic. And I am forever telling people about your channel. Thanks so much!!
Adding a texture isn't exactly going to help those that just want to smooth the banding.
THANKS SO MUCH, THIS HELPED US REFURBISH OUR LOGOS
Thank you so much! You're the best! I just used your first technique to get rid of a ton of noisy colored pixels that was ruining one of my images. It was an older one from 2006 and not the best quality, but it looks so much better now.
○ Adding texture is the same as encapsulating texture.
Literally a couple days ago I was solving that issue.
►I decided went to lab in 16 bit surely and not only blurred colour in a and b per channel, but also easily mapped that lines by stamp or healing brush: clipping occured there in different places of image.
So now that cat's picture is clipping free :3
I knew about the noise technique but that texture thing is brilliant.
I got this problem today while working on the background for an illustration. It surprised me because I have done gradients before without this problem. Noise and grain didn't seem to work so well (it somehow created different bands), but using a texture to hide this effect had a better result. Thank you for the excellent explanations! :)
Bless you for sharing this with us! I've been struggling with this for such a long time, thank you so much!
I seriously love all your videos, so helpful
wow the noise is magic!
It will be my fav. tutorial because I design in 3D with lots of lights, shadows and shapes.. when I use color grading in Photoshop everything fuck up immediately. Thanks champ!
So you go through this whole blurring routine over and over again? Why not just work in 16 or 32 bit from the beginning? :P
you're the best!
I like this video. It will definitely help me with a project I am working on!
Great. This really helped me. Thanks
You are magic! ❤️
Missed out this tutorial for a long time. Thank you sir !!!!
You are so good at what you do, thank you!!!
Muchas gracias, siempre me ayudas a solucionar retos fotográficos, agradezco que nos ayudes a crecer 💪
Super useful, thanks man!
Nice work
Thank you so much!
Your first perfect video,
That was helpful, Thanks!
This is genius! Thanks!
Thank you so much for this!
It works flawlessly people. TH-cam just compresses the video badly that's why you still see the banding after bluring.
tHANK YOU SO MUCH YOU ALWAYS GIVE ME THEBEST SOLUTIONS
Amazing. Thank you so much.
When you add these pictures to FB or any other social media the banding is back so all the process is just a time waste.
Great video.
TH-cam really makes it hard to see significant changes to banding! I really love the video presentation.
You’re incredible. Thanks for sharing all this knowledge!
I really do like the second method, obviously it cannot work on all images, but certainly works well for something like this.
It may have been just my work PC that has poor quality monitors, but the first method never seemed to get rid of the banding at all.
Do you offer any "remote walk throughs?" I've watched your vid (and a few others) regarding the removal of banding, and NOTHING is working. I need to release the photos in a month and until I figure out how to fix the issue (and potentially stop it from happening again) I don't want to retouch the other photos from the set, which will require similar retouching and therefore will likely have the same banding issue. PLEASE HELP!
I would love to see you do a video on extreme jpeg artifact removal!
Thanks so much for sharing!
Great tip thanks!
Thank you, friend.
Hi Unmesh, I need to correct a color in a Pack shot, because the color is like with noise, how can I do that ?
For my project, I had the benefit that it was something I was creating within Photoshop. I had some intersecting gradients and got banding. At first I tried just adding noise, but when that just resulted in noisy bands, I had the 16-bit "a ha" moment. See, my video editor uses floating-point operations when processing the image. That means there are shades between the shades, and there are whites that are whiter than white, and blacks that are darker than black. And then it gets collapsed to 8-bit right at the end. Using a 16-bit middle man before the blur and the noise makes a ton of sense.
It might be worth it to upload this one to HQ version to Vimeo or make a (high bit-rate) video file downloadable on a different platform, because the changes that you make are tough to see through the heavy TH-cam compression.
If you already under the concept of banding pretty well, then you can see get the gist, because explanation is quite clear. Unfortunately, TH-cam's compression does not prioritize clarity. Anyway, I still loved the video. I feel like I learn a lot from your tutorials, so thank you.
That was very useful
Thank you man, really helps. Thanks a lot
I can't wait to try these tips out to fix banding!
thank you so much
Youre a star thank you so very much do you know how long Iv been try to get a fix for this problem now I see two (has to be said the compression in TH-cam made me wonder about the 1st fix) But liked & subscribed
I'm afraid if i'll choose 16-bit option my potato-pc will faint and never wake up lol
Dying. The word for fainting and never waking up is "dying".
@@rishabhbhasker8042 Ok
@@rishabhbhasker8042 Not necessarily.
I just learned more from this one video than I did in a Photoshop class in college... Amazing, and exactly what I was looking for because banding has been a huge issue for me (plus masking, but that's another story...)! Thank you so much for sharing this with the world!
YO BRO
U R THE BEST
Thanks
that's what i need. tks u somuch
So, is the banding caused by our monitors not being 16bit or 32bit, or Photoshop being not able to handle the color space?
Thanks man
which photoshop version are you using
Hi, can you make a Video on how to remove Scanner Banding (highly dense Filmnegatives sometimes produce such)
thank you :)
Thank you!
Hello please make a tutorial to make alpha maps or height map for use in 3d
Do you have a method/work flow for avoiding banding in the first place?
16 bits from the start
Will this banding show in prints? I can see them in my phone but not in PS
You can also achieve this with the Frosted Glass filter set to 100% scale, smoothness of 1 and a strength from 1-5. This will effectively "dither" your background and eliminate banding.
Excellent stuff by you....
Can you guide me to your video for fixing white balance (best method so far)
You saved my ass! Thanks man!!!
Try uploading this video to Vimeo and see if your technique looks better? I think Vimeos compression is much less destructive. It would be a good experiment Vimeo vs TH-cam.
What if the banding covers the entire portrait, even the face?
Where did you get the texture image?
I usually use Surface Blur after the noise, I prefer to use Camera RAW noise with settings: 5 or 10, 25, 50. After that Surface Blur with 40-60 and 2-4. This will make the noise and banding much more realistic.
When this didn't work for my specific image (a lightly graded sky), I got frustrated and tried upgrading the image to 32-bit and then back down to 16 bit.... I have no idea what I did or how it worked, but I feel I've cheated the system somehow and will pay in the end. I just can't figure out how there's any detriment to doing it this way. Thoughts?
Is there a Surface Blur for DaVinci Resolve?
To anyone who still has this problem :
go to color management and try changing color profile and see if it helps or check your monitor menu and change color settings there.
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