5 Things I WISH I had known BEFORE moving to Chile
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One thing that helps in the US for everything being more efficient is that everyone knows how much cost their time. Starting from basic jobs, people are paid by the hour, so if you have to go and stand on a line for half an hour or whatever, you know the cost of that. Salaries in Chile work differently, so people have a harder time grasping the value of their time, which I think causes that people just take things how they are.
It's funny how we see things in a different way regarding housing. I HATE in the US that the option of how to style, decorate, and equip a house is taken away from me. When you rent you can barely make the place your own. You do sacrifice that in spite of some practicality, which is a common trend in many things here.
Gonzalo Jimenez that’s interesting!!!!!!! I’ve never thought of renting a house like you just said but man that makes a lot of sense! Interesting about being paid by the hr too! I think that does explain a lot of why it works the way that it does in the states.
Jon Gross I heard this kind of phrase from obnoxious people way too many times when I lived in SF ‘I make $150, $200 (whatever triple digit number you wanna insert here) and can’t be here in the line waiting for my coffee 😡’ Renting is ridiculously limited in the US. That was one of the reasons why I couldn’t bring my dog with me. Many places wouldn’t accept tenants with dogs. In Chile it still feels like your place and you can do as much as you want as long as the property is not damaged.
Gonzalo Jimenez that’s so true!!!!!! Finding a dog friendly place in the states is a nightmare especially in the city. 🤔 new video topic for Sunday?
YA ESPAÑOL MEJORES FACIL YO NO INGLES JAJAJAJAJA
ME HUBIERA GUSTADO QUE TODOS LOS PAISES HABLARAN ❤MI CASTELLANO COMO SE DICE TAMBIEN ❤SI AL FINAL ES LO MISMO QUE SE DICE JAJAJA
"I knew that in Chile they have a lot of people who speak Spanish and all that...."
Wow...
Surely that comment won the 'comment of the year' award in 2020...
Los chilenos la verdad somos muy escrúpulosos y Honestamente no me gustaría dormir en la cama que durmió otro, me da asco. Por eso compramos todo.
Los colchones o camas normalmente no van incluidos en compra o arriendos ni en EEUU ni en Chile. Se refiere a cocina y refrigerador.
@@pudurojo un detalle , y por lo escrúpulosos que somos, también compraríamos nuevos.
Si yo creo que eso se compra nuevo igual hay gente que compra 2 mano y le hecha un kilo de lisofort
@@danyvideos6411 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Walking-UFO haces unas preguntas 🤦🏻♀️ que me da flojera contestarte
Hola Jon. Creo que lo de la larga espera en Starken está sucediendo debido a la pandemia, ya que en años anteriores no existía este atochamiento. Hay personas que se encuentran desempleadas, y han creado emprendimientos como por ejemplo tejidos ó artesanías, y envían varias encomiendas vía Starken a distintos destinos. Es por esto que hay mucha concurrencia de gente, y la espera es muy larga para poder ingresar esa cantidad de paquetes por cada persona.
Estoy de acuerdo en que Starken debería mejorar sus sistemas de ingreso de encomiendas para evitar las largas filas.
Buen video, saludos! ✌🏻
No mintái, nunca he hecho menos de 1 hora en starken, y eso que siempre me pongo a la fila a las 8:30 para estar de los primeros y ya hay gente
Por eso debiera haber mas empresas de envios confiables... en Chile en el pasado solo existia correos de Chile 🤦♀️... ahi si que si esperabas y cosas ni llegaban era horrible 🙈🙈🙈🙈. Despues se hizo famosa chilexpress, luego starken y ahora hay varias e incluso por la pandemia y nuevos emprendimiento hay muchos deliverys y encomenderos* Una lección de la pandemia, ser creativos 💖
Amigo mio Starken nació prestando un pésimo servicio
@@tomsxe quizas por eso esta lleno va muy temprano... Vivo cerca de una sucursal y antes de la pandemia en la tarde esta prácticamente vacío claro que las colombianas q atienden se demoran mas q la cresta en atender
hector chavez ¡Concuerdo contigo! Starken siempre ha sido mala, ahora solamente esta peor.
Love the videos Jon. My wife and I lived in Chile and plan on returning. We waited 3 hours to renew our car registration only to discover the previous owner had an $80 traffic fine. I had to pay it before the car registration could be renewed.
Plan on returning? What are the gringos thinking about? Are u M? Or maybe United States is not as great as it looks, I don't know... I can't understand, I'm sorry if I offend u, but this makes me think... Why am I trying so hard to leave? Do really worth it?
I moved to California last year from the Midwest and getting my car registered basically took a full working day lol
@@killtroman Why do you want to leave??
@@killtroman The US is full of gun violence and politicians who don't really care about the americans. there are nicer parts of the world lol
When you want to rent a place with basic necessities included you need to find that it says "amoblado"
Creo que la palabra es amueblado
Don't worry Jon, it is not that chilean people are "genetically more patient", we hate to wait on a line as much as you do, but we don't have another option because the organization in every thing in Chile is really deficient, but trust me, WE REALLY HATE TO WAIT. It's outrageous. Maybe there is some places wich are more faster atending people, well there are a very few though.
Organization*
@@Kev_pencils sorry, corrector.
Si yo creo que el idioma dificulta mucho, el elegir vivir en un país u otro, uno busca su propio idioma, a eso se suman los miedos: a hacer el ridículo, no poder comunicar lo que realmente deseas decir y tantas cosas que te hacen como tú bien dijiste Jon, solamente quedarte callado en un rincón sin hablar nada. Creo que tanto tú cómo Elise, fueron muy valientes al incorporarse a una cultura e idioma que si bien puedan tener muchas similitudes, también muchas diferencias. Y por lo demás con mucho éxito, aprendiendo a amar a nuestro país, país que también los quiere por tener corazones❤️ de chileno.
The best comments ever
Have a great day Gringo! And thank you for showing my beautiful country to the rest of the world 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Jairo Abdon Vera Pereira it’s my absolute pleasure to do! You too have a great day!
Jon Gross You are doing a great job!
Don’t change your positive actitud, because there are too much negative people in this planet 🤜🏼🤛🏼
@@JairoVera contigo 100 por 100
He's showing the negative of our country!!!!
Maria Atienza ahhhh no. That’s exactly what I’m not doing. Thanks for watching!
Al principio creí que era un video pagado por Starken... En serio, mencionó la palabra Starken como 20 veces. Si escucho Starken una vez más, moriré. Porque el servicio de Starken es realmente pésimo. Sólo Starken podría hacerlo peor que Starken.
Es mejor servicio es transporte chevalier es mas barato y mas rapido en san carlos es muy buena atencion
@@jonathanluengo8749 por
Lo
Menos acá a Pto Montt no llega
No sè si a Linares llega el servicio Cruz del Sur, al menos en Valdi funciona re bien, màs barato y confiable, las otra dos màs famosas, caras a cagar y te mamai literal dos horas pa cada tràmite.....
Dos palabras: Blue Express.
Hello Jon , if you think starken is a mess try to get a package from correos de chile it's a nightmare...
Agree! After paying $95 to send a small package from South Dakota to Stgo., Correos de Chile made my sister pay another $86 before she could claim it. It was under the $200 maximum declaration, too. Never again!
I had just pick up pacages in the international section on the central, but didnt have troubles i just pay for the pacage there like $750 fir package, maibe bevause i had paid everithing before...
It happen bro when i moved here in chile from india. I didn't know even single word of spanish and it is so strange that here in Chile just 2 % population i guess can speak english though my English is not perfect but i can make a great conversation. Now i know spanish as well i think 80%.
Chile has been given to me lot of success.
Thanku you
Gracias a chile.
Chile is very lucky to have you :)
But you learn Chilean spanish? Only work in Chile, try yo speak in other country, it's hard to understood, but it's a start good for you
@@negrve learning Chilean spanish is like learning spanish on hard mode. If you get it you will easily undertand other coutries spanish, except for Spain since it can be a tough change.
@@xmushab0m god mode. Not hard mode. I had to learn from my Santiago Chile born and raised father who conversed and bickered about what real español and real Castellano is
Uffff!! Como te comprendo...
Con mi flia. Estuvimos 1 año viviendo en Maryland y tbn. Cometimos errores,pero fue enrriquecedor para mis hijos , aprendieron a hablar y escribir muy bien el idioma, tbn nos chocaron muchas de las costumbres gringas!!! En todo caso:Bienvenido a Chile😍😍😍
huracan 2.0 haha! Muy bien! Entiendo 100% y muchas gracias!
Como dato acerca del inglés. Antes el hablar inglés era catalogado como "cosas de cuicos" (cuicos= gente de plata. Al menos asi se entiende), por lo tanto en los colegios cuando enseñaban inglés, si alguien pronunciaba bien algunas palabras, era objeto de burlas, en especial las que terminan en "tion", como "communication" o "celebration". Fue un tema que lo tocamos en las clases de inglés en la Universidad y todos habíamos visto ese tipo de cosas en nuestros colegios (hablo de los años 90). Antes se le tenía un miedo al hablar otro idioma, pero en los últimos años recién se está tomando como una necesidad el aprender inglés.
Un abrazo y gracias por compartir nuestra idiosincrasia :)
Cierto, aunque sí se enseñaba... inglés, aunque extremadamente básico, más que nada para que no se dijera que no se enseñaba el idioma. Era imposible que la gente pudiera tener una conversación mínimamente aceptable con un gringo al salir de cuarto medio con esos conocimientos. Yo incluso teniendo una hermana que lo enseña no tengo un nivel de inglés adecuado para una conversación (escrito me defiendo un poquito pero hablado y sobre todo escuchado... nah, soy terrible), y no es que ella sea mala profesora, yo soy muy burro con esas cosas.
Aquí (Chile) hablamos español sería bueno que lo practicaras, cuando alguien de nosotros visita un país con un idioma distinto debemos aprenderlo
Estoy de acuerdo contigo Flavio
Sin embargo parece estar hablando con sus compatriotas que contemplan mudarse a Chile. Por lo tanto, entiendo por qué está hablando en inglés.
Al menos esperaste 2 hrs sentado, yo acá en starken estuve 4 hrs en una fila de pie, para que finalmente me dijeran "no encontramos su pedido..."
I love my country, Chile. I left it when I was a child, but what I don't like about it is that the laws are very bad, people still don't know how to respect others. education is excellent but what I dislike the most is the laws and the police. I'm living in California for 40 years now and I love it. I don't think I would return to my beautiful Chile ever again, here my parents died and here I will have to die. My children are from here, my nephews are from here and my sisters, the only country they know is the US. so here I stay.
@Shispirina where ? in USA ? you really do not know anything about education if you did not know there was a survey and it was recognized that the United States of America has the worst education in the world. So what are you talking about? And I show it to you when I arrived in this country to California I came for grade 6 and they gave me a test and they passed me to grade 8 and not because of intelligent but because in my country Chile they teach much better than here. So what are you talking about? I grew up here and believe me what I know about my country and what I learned here is not even half of what I knew back then. So before to defend something first look and find out. because you look very bad, master uses but I do not like to lie. and reality has many good things, but in education we are really very, very bad.
I could not help laughing when you said what you said about your wife. We've all made those mistakes
No eres al único que le disgusta esperar y esperar en una estúpida fila, pero este año ha cambiado todo y ha puesto a prueba la paciencia de muchos!
Me pregunto, por qué los gringos , ( EEUU) creen que tenemos que hablar su idioma. Es el extranjero quien debe aprender el idioma del país que visita. Si alguien te responde un saludo en inglés , es cortesía. La regla «donde fueras , Haz lo que vieras,» aplica al idioma.
Jardin azul si, entiendo y por eso y dije que era lamentable que he pensado que en Chile hablan inglés en vez de yo aprender español antes de llegar a Chile
Igual que el Estado les puso formación en creole en todos lados a los ahitianos cuendo son los extranjeros los que deben aprender nuestro idioma
@@eduardodiaz9496 La información del estado siempre debe estar en distintos idiomas para la correcta difusión de ella. En el metro ves la informacion en español e inglés, pero no en mapudungun. Luego de la gran llegada que hubo de haitianos, el estado tuvo que actualizarse, ya que debido a diversos problemas que hubo con la comunidad haitiana por la falta de comunicacion, hoy en dia, por ley de inclusion podemos ver informacion en los hospitales y consultorios en mapudungun, español, creole, inglés (y si te vas para el norte, demas pillas info en aymara o quechua).
Jardín Azul te encuentro toda la razón, me cargó este gringo con lo del idioma...
@@anitadiaz6458 jasjajsaj weona ridicula
Patience isn’t one of my skills, and every time when I go back to Chile, that get me crazy! Chile has good stuff as well, you just need more time ;) In North America there are a lot of bad things, like everywhere. In South America people is warmer, and families spend more time together.
I agree with you. I've lived in Canada for three years and although people are polite and very respectful, I could say that I just have nice people near but not friends. This is something really wonderful....our people seem to be warmer.... I don't have friends. My friends are in Chile....😥
As a Venezuela in Linares i agree with yours, people in North América Is More polite but distancing it's the key, no one it's near or Family, instead Chilean people inmediatly become a friend or family for you.
Lack of patience, or IMPATIENCE, can also reveal a narcissistic person with an inflated ego.
I wish youtube had a built in translator. Would love to read the comments.
It has look on top at the serch where is you tube address, right hand side the first icon with the G is a translator.
Jajajajajaj
What it does have is bilingual users
@@jtktheboss5474 you’re right 😂
The TH-cam Genie has made your wish come true! 🧞♂️
I know your feeling , it’ a impossible not to feel stupid when you are trying to communicate in an other language ..... it happen to everyone!!!Learning a second language in the field it’s a very complicated thing , it happens to all of us who live around the world and in need to communicate in order to survive wherever you live . The more education your background had , the more difficult is to adapt an speak like a local ( educated local I mean) Your videos are great , you are such smart guy . Thanks for showing Chile on your way , giving the chance to see many places that I ve never been or will be . Thanks again !! A+👍🏻
Uncle Juan, being a Chilean American i can attest to the eternal waiting in lines in Chile. Things are worst now with the “pandemic” but whether pandemic or not we do make things difficult. In that little glimpse you shared of Starken I saw a sign that read “cash only”. We make things difficult and oddly enough people like standing in lines. We complain about it, but if we really didn’t like it we’d, like you said, not use those services. Banks, grocery stores, etc don’t feel the need to streamline and optimize because customers always come back.
Que buena catarsis te mandaste Jon, al cabo de unos años más, te veré reclamando en las grandes alamedas como la mayoría de los Chileno/as 🤣🤣🤣👍Jajaja Saludos cordiales.
Pdta: te aconsejo de armarte aún más de paciencia si te toca hacer algún trámite en el servicio público... Mucho más...🙏ohmmm 🙈👍
se le cayó la careta mas bien
@@crstnvenegas ya y porqué?? Por que reclama y denuncia lo que no es correcto en Chile?? Acaso eso es careta?? Ojo ahí con validar, normalizar y naturalizar lo malo...
@@sebastianmirandac bi
Es sabido que todo en las Regiones es más leeento y con menos recursos por eso muchos chilenos se va a vivir a la Región Metropolitana , aunque no digo que es perfecta pero funciona mejor en cuanto a servicios. Pero en las regiones tienen la tranquilidad y espacio y áreas verdes que acá no hay.
Eso es un mito o en lugares específicos xd
Tranquilidad no hay en ninguna parte xd
Algeria 🇩🇿 always stands with Chile 🇨🇱 United and amicably
Hello Jon... I agree. The things that you are talking about are correct. Chile is a very special country, even more if you live in Linares. Maybe, Santiago could be worst for you. A lot of improvization and disorder, waiting 2 hours in a line is a little moment. We don't speak Spanish, we speak Chilean and when we do it, it's so fast for a foreigner. But, we are changing and people learn with comments like yours. Chilean people are friendly and we think that Americans are nice and funny people... Thanks for sharing!!!
Great video, as always, Jon! I remember my first time in Stgo. as an exchange student. (with 3 years of high school spanish behind me) That was - cough, cough - 48 years ago, and I still recall several of my big bloopers. Needless to say, there have been MANY more since then, and though I still am pretty quiet when there’s a group all talking, I’ve learned to laugh with them laughing at me! ❤️🇨🇱❤️
Hi Jon,
Thanks for sharing your experience in my beautiful Chile. I can share my experience here in Wisconsin being a Chilean guy and man please don’t feel that those things are a mistake. Specially not knowing Spanish before. I was in the same shoes and it was tough but at the same time now that I feel extremely comfortable speaking, reading and writing it was a beautiful experience for me. Of course I would love to have known English before moving here, but it is life and we deal with it and learn and feel how pleasant is to achieve something that you never thought to achieve. Now I laugh about my mistakes of miss pronouncing something and millions things that I did while learning, but it is an experience and now I can share that with my future kids and laugh. Also even in my own native language I don’t know 100% the words.
Hey Jon the other thing that I felt goose bumps is when you were looking apartments/houses in Oconomowoc. I don’t know if that was randomly or you actually lived there, but the thing is that was my very first town when I moved here from Chile.
Thanks again Jon for sharing and my best good vibes for you is never feel mad with yourself because we never stop learning and that makes this world awesome!
Cheers my friend from here Wisconsin!!
P Wisc how cool is that?!!! Yeah I grew up in Oconomowoc and my family lives there! Oconomowoc is my home. How in the world did you end up moving to Oconomowoc first??? That’s so amazing and random! Haha
Jon Gross hahahahaha. Yes it is cool. My wife came to Chile during her high school time and later when she was in college. She applied for student exchange program to learn Spanish and we met in Valparaiso. I am original from Viña Del Mar. She graduated in got her first job in Oconomowoc right in front of Target DC. That is how when I finally got my visa to move with my wife we were renting an apartment right between Lake La belle and Fowler Lake. We love that town and we had awesome memories in that town.
Now we live in the outside of Madison. Because we love how fun and family friendly is that city and so many fun events that I love to go.
Really cool man. I would love same day me can meet anywhere and share and laugh about our stories.
Cheers my friend!!
It's a weird name oconomowoc for a town?
Rafael Ceccato hahahaha when I worked in a company in that town many truck drivers came from all over the country to deliver stuff and they asked how do you pronounce the town! 😂😂
Starken esta un poco colapsada pero funcionando..debido a la pandemia y es el medio mas economico para hacer envios..en todo caso correos de chile .chileexpress tambien tienen largas filad..hay que tener paciencia👍
No es fácil "nuestro español" porque hablamos con muchos modismos y además hablamos muuy rápido y no modulamos mucho, jejeje, por eso a veces los latinos no nos entienden, somos únicos!! Amo mi país!! Espero te sientas querido aquí. Chao pescao =)
Cubans
Staken tiene muchos reclamos no llegan las cosas, se pierden...ya no debería comprar por ese medio .. ....trata de comprar por otro medio
Andrea Frias 🙏 gracias Andrea!
I don't like that people just let their dogs bark in the garden all night (and sometimes all day) long. In UK people tell off their dogs if they bark at night hence nights are generally quiet unless you have a problem neighbour. But in Chile no-one seems to mind the barking, i think it's probably because they grew up hearing the noise of dogs always barking so it's their normal.
Hi, Jon. It's always good to know about you and your nice family. And yes, I agree with many people here, our country is really beautiful. I've lived in Canada for three years and one day I found you in the TH-cam....it was really fantastic to see so many places of my country and above all I loved the way you talk about Chile and its people. Jon, you are lucky living in Linares. I hope I won't be wrong if I say you are safer there than any other part in Chile. That's a quiet town and I remember it is the place where gas was cheaper than any other....😉
But I can't ignore that there's a great lack of punctuality in everything and everywhere.This is not good...😏 We have to be honest. Take care, stay healthy. Love to you, Elise and cute Moses😍
At least you got your packagge. I've had things stolen in transit, or even severely damaged (broken computer motherboard). Now you are one of us
In my experience, most places are rented with furniture. I live in Valdivia.
I would love a video with the sentences that you have gotten wrong. I feel like I haven't said a lot of embarassing things in English, but I guess it's because I have watched a lot of tv shows in English and I have picked up things from there and I actually studied English.
And btw, Starken is not always so bad. I think it's because people are ordering more stuff online due to the pandemic.
Cheers!
agradesco que traduscas estos videos para asi poder disfrutarlo, exitos en lo hagas es una muy buena persona.
Lo de Starken es impresentable. Deberían contratar más personas teniendo en cuenta la mayor demanda que tienen. Y creo que su nivel de digitalización es muy bajo, las bodegas son un amontonamiento de cosas imposibles de encontrar.
Grest video Jon, i agree with you about the english language almost no one speak english, i practice watching TV or movies with no subtitles it's the only way or i will forget it... saludos gringo desde Quillota...
Alejandro Valenzuela Pavez that’s awesome!!!! Good for you!!!! Never stop learning
You know the pandemic has been going on WAY too long when you didn’t realize until halfway through the video that he’s wearing a mask.
It is true that in Chile you need to wait long times at stores. I live there and the USA . Chileans are super patient. I admire that about them😊.Here at walmart in New York , people freak out when they have to wait 5 minutes.😱🤯. Also the Chilean people never made fun of my Spanish. Super polite.
Hola jon. Son buenos tus videos. Te agradezco tus comentarios acerca del país que te ha acogido. Duele saber que algunos no están felices, pero resulta que es bueno siempre estar agradecido, a pesar de las dificultades, del país que te ha acogido. ¡Feliz año 2021 ¡
Chike expres la lleva...lo bueno que si hay errores responden...ahora la culpa de las empresas es no fiscalizar a sus trabajadores...que muchas veces no hacen bien la pega...quizás por el salario o sueldo o porque no tienen otra mejor ...pero aun así me enseñaron que si haces algo o trabajas en ello se el mejor🥂🎄🤩❤
Having to turn down potentially AMAZING apartments in Santiago because I didn't have the money to buy a fridge and stove was a huge pain in the neck. I still don't understand why renters need to own huge, expensive appliances that we need to drag around the city every time we move. Thankfully every place I've seen so far has had countertops hahaha
well people don't move around so much in rest of the world
I have send a book once from Germany to Copiapo...Chile and it took 8 days to get there....actually very good !!!!!
We were surprised / annoyed that you don't even get light fixtures in a rental house here in Chile. Buy and install your own, if you want light! If you're lucky you might get a lightbulb hanging down by the electrical wires from the ceiling. Yes, really strange to a gringo.
Also, another thing that caught us by surprise was when you are invited to a picnic or a potluck, you need to bring your own dishes and silverware, and even your own charcoal if it's a cookout type of event.
That’s so true!!!!
@@JonGrossGringo ... and pretty bad.
Most of South America has an issues and that is understanding business, services, logistics, and governments. The reality is that Chile like all South American nations rely on corruption to make "money." It is easier to be corrupt in South America because Business is not understood well, and people dont really understand work ethic. Business is better understood in North America: Canada, United States and Mexico. Most South Americans do not come from a "Working" culture therefore there are a lot of things that are not needed as opposed to North America. The problem of all South America is the Latino-Hispanic Ideology that was inhereted from Spain and Portugal. The Hispanics do have problems, they cannot see past the Hispanisism in other words, Hispanisism does create social problems they dont really understand business, logisitcs, governments and work ethic and therefore, creating more problems for South America. Spain is to blame because its a Hispanic European country that has downfalls for its Hispanisism and has caused many Hispanic Europeans to immigrate to Nordic European countries in other words, where there is Hispanisism there are many problems and Chile is a country that is really struggling on every sector of it's society.
Gringo in the US here. Throughout Europe I learned just how valuable Google translate can be 👍😎
Hay cosas muy injustas que a muchos también nos molesta como ma tardanza en todo👎🏻👎🏻, también soy de linares 🙋🏻♂️🇨🇱
Vixan Mc hola! 👋 saludos desde Linares!
As someone who understands Spanish, especially Chilean Spanish I laughed so hard when you mentioned what you said 😂
Sooo good!!! I have felt so many of these things here!!!! Crazy about the counter tops though! 🤯🤯
Two Shea Films thanks so much! I love Chile but there are definitely some things that were really hard for us when we moved here. I hope others can learn through me!
Hey Jon, one thing that drives me crazy when I return to Chile is going to the bank! It's usually an all morning or afternoon affair just to do a simple transaction. Also, basketball is gaining popularity in Chile, so maybe you can show off your handles in a future video ;)
Ir you are chilean living un USA, the Bank in USA it's alone everytime, it's a crazy thing.
In Chile BancoEstado it's starkenbank
So true, a bank transaction could take all day! lol
Hello Jon. Un gran Saludo para ti y para tu familia. Suerte en tu proyecto, que todo salga muy bien 👍
I loved that part about having the guts, and star to make things happens, even if it turns out the wrong way, during this pandemic, i begin to practice every Day my english, especially the spoken part, because lets face it, many chileans can reed, write or even listen english, in an aceptable way, but is in the every day conversation that we sucks, and i think, its because, we are in somehow afraid of what others might thinks, or how much errors we will make, but we didnt realize, its only by making some mistakes, that we will be able to learn, saludos desde Antofagasta, love your videos
Chilean Spanish is totally different from Spanish in other Latin American countries. It contains many idioms and slang related to animals, which can confuse a foreigner.
All you said is true👍great video Jon👍thank you so much
To me it's happened something similar in the USA, actually in Miami. I use to be wait the bus no more that 10 minutes and this one take some minutes to ride to my destiny, but in Miami you must wait not less that half an hour with good Chance and if the driver was Afro-American you must wait one hour.
Fernando Sebastian wow!!! That’s crazy! Is it because most people have a car in Miami? Interesting!!
Hola Jon, te cuento que yo soy de Venezuela y tengo millones de cuentos de cosas que he dicho que acá suenan muy mal y eso que hablamos el mismo idioma, español, pero es parte de cada cultura y no queda de otra que reirse de uno mismo y aprender las palabras correctas. Un saludo
Buen canal, saludos desde Concepción Chile
Gracias! Saludos!
Very funny this video..jajajaja.. Welcome to Chile my friend... a wonderfull experience..jajaja 😅😅😅
One of the things I wish I had known is that many Chileans never like to tell you "no", even when they know that will not do a job or provide a service for you.
People like plumbers or builders are very unprofessional.
You will waste so much time with people telling you they will do something and then they never do it, they will not show up and they will just ignore your phone calls when you try and call them .
This is very common, they will hardly ever say "no I am too busy, I can't help you" It is like they are afraid to say no, so they will say yes and then pretend they will take your business or do the job for you, but then don't show up and won't give you an explanation or answer your calls.
I honestly don't care if you can't provide me a service, but why not just say no in the first place and don't be so immature and not answer phone calls when you don't show up, it is quite pathetic to be honest.
I am sorry if this offends anyone, but it is not just me that complains about this thing, many Chilean friends do too.
Hola! Primero, «las 5 cosas...» empiezan en el minuto 4:30 (antes de eso sólo quejas sobre Starken).
Sobre eso y aunque concuerdo en que Chile debería ser más bilingüe, es el extranjero quien debe tratar de integrarse al país que visita y no al revés, eso es lo rico de viajar y conocer otras culturas. Así que Jon, aunque lógico, es un buen tip el que digas que deben saber Castellano si van a un país de habla hispana (jaja hasta suena gracioso)
Y sobre Starken, (¿en serio perdiste casi 5 minutos hablando de ellos? uff) también creo que pueden mejorar su servicio pero no debes olvidar el contexto: estamos aún en pandemia, el delivery ha aumentado exponencialmente y esa una de las empresas con peor servico (hay otras mejores como Chilexpress aunque es más cara).
Por favor, no piensen que siempre en Chile se espera dos horas o se hacen largas filas sólo para retirar una encomienda.
Paciencia es lo que más tenemos los Chilenos,eso me pareció increíble cuando viví en Canada,todo era de inmediato sin fila en los bancos ,era una maravilla.La realidad en Chile es la paciencia 😆😆😆
Thank you for your advice and I’m sorry for your awful service and experience at “Starken”. I’ll make sure to tell all my family in Chile to avoid that carrier. Good luck to you!!!
🙂🙂🙂.Hey Jon.I totally agree with you , I feel the pain...😄I'm a native chilean, but been living here in the US longer time than in my own country. When I come to visit Chile I get literally sick the waste of time in supermarkets ,stores, etc....forget about banking or institutional offices....So, I guess I'm more Americanized now... 😉, Hoping I won't suffer , because I've decided to go back and settle in Chile ,but I'll be in the country side, specifically El valle de Elqui.
cheers man !!
cuando uno arrienda hay dos tipos amobladas y cuando tu vas a traer tus propios muebles y en linares tambien hay por lo general son cabañas de veraneo o vacaciones esas son amobladas pero tambien puedes decir al dueño te la arriende por todo un año si hubieras preguntado o si hubieras hablado español eso no te habria pasado porque en chile encuentras de todo solo hay que saber como buscar
Esperamos la segunda patita Tio Jon! Un abrazo
ejale.!! papa! Muchas gracias!!!
Bueno con respecto al idioma, asi me senti cuando llegamos mi y yo al aeropuerto de JFK, nadie hablaba español, es una verdadera odisea, hasta que mis hijos se atrevieron a hablar ingles y a preguntar, mi idea fija era llegar en metro a nuestro hospedaje, lo tenia todo previsto, que linea tomar en que estación bajarnos, hacia donde debíamos caminar, y sorpresa llegamos en domingo muy temprano y esa linea no funcionaba en domingo por reparaciones, mi sra me decia pidamos un huber, le dije que no. Mis hijos en la calle preguntaron y con la pagina web del linea de transporte de NYC, tomamos un bus que nos dejaba cerca y de repente visualicé una esquina que tantas veces recorri en Google maps, y dije stop , para bajarnos ya que a media cuadra estaba el hospedaje , el conductor, muy de mal humor, me dijo unas palabras en ingles y mis hijos me ci hicieron callar que no debia pedir que el bus parara, bueno en la próxima parada nos bajamos y llegamos muy bien, Inolvidables vacaciones. NYC simplemente me enamoró es una ciudad que deja sin aliento, nos pasaron puras situaciones maravillosas.
Guau !... Como corre ese niño ... !... Creo que será atleta ...sii... ! ... Y ... representará a Chile en las olimpiadas...obvio!
The starken problem is new, before the pandemic it took less than 10 minutes. I think the problem of renting houses without furniture is due to tax reasons, since if a house with furniture is rented, the VAT tax must be paid, and without furniture it is exempt from VAT. It should be noted that anything movable is movable, so ornaments and plants are also considered furniture.
Genial nuevos vídeos un gran saludo para usted y familia desde Santiago
M Lacourt muchas gracias!!! Saludos!!!!
Looking fwd to your other tips. Thanks!
Jon, solo encontré hoy tu canal y me suscribí inmediatamente, así que aunque llego tarde, te explicaré algo igual. La larga espera en Starken y en otros lugares es por la pandemia, por el AFORO (cantidad de personas por metro cuadrado). La normas para evitar más contagios limitan la cantidad de personas que pueden estar dentro de un espacio tan pequeño como la sucursal de Starken, por lo tanto si según el AFORO podían entrar dos personas a la vez, todo el proceso se hace muy lento, y eso significa una larga espera, lo mismo si vas a un supermercado, una tienda, farmacia, o un banco, incluso parques.
Hello Jon, I saw you today, about 4pm at Kurt Moller with Yungay, you were at your one wheel and I was on my way to Lider, I yelled at you "Hola Jon!" but you didn't hear me, no problem, I was in my car and there were a lot of traffic too. Great video, I hate chilean bureaucracy, it's everywhere, I can't stand it. I don't use Starken, they are a lousy company. Funny about Elise being "caliente", ha ha ha, honest mistake. Best regards Jon!
The lack of countertops is crazy. I have never lived in Chile as an adult and when I did live there we owned the house so I never realized that. It can potentially be more expensive to rent than rent a house in Chile.
Don't take the studies in spanish language for granted Jon, remember that here in Chile we speak a slightly different language BASED on spansih, but not actual spanish as you'd have learned in the States 😅 however, IMO I think you've accomplished the language barrier and the like very well, 👍👍👍
Carolina Hidalgo ha! Thank you! I’ve learned a lot in my time here in Chile but I’m always learning something new. True story about Chilean Spanish vs Spanish! Haha! I forget about that factor!
@@JonGrossGringo Dear Jon, our ancestral bad habit regarding our language is to be permanently creating synonyms for everything. This occurs mainly with marginal youth, and since these new words are usually fun, they are soon assimilated by all youth and beyond, regardless of their social status. It is true that a language is a living thing that evolves, but in the case of Chile it is too much, almost a bad habit. I hope that in 100 more years we can still say that we speak Spanish. Regards.
Alberto Santa Maria interesting comment! Thanks for sharing!
Jajajaja... Sí , en Chile se habla en chileno. Es diferente al espñaol. De hecho creo que de los hispanos somos los que peor hablamos😅🤭. Usamos muchos modismos o chilenismos. Paciencia!
Kind regards from Talca, Jon! Nice video!
Gracias yo y mis amigos se lo agradecemos Sr y disculpe
Hi Jon! In Santiago you could find furnished apartments & people who speaks English...Linares is a smaller city...the same happens in your country in relation to the language! I lived there for many years!...Anyway, I enjoyed your video!
Hey!! Nice videos!! I’m originally from Chile and I moved to NYC 12 years ago. I think it’s kind of funny to me to see this video because there are also soooo many things that are so hard when moving to the states, and probably even more when moving to NY. You talk about waiting in line? Hahaha, omg, in NY there are lines for everything! Haha I never got used to it. In US it’s almost impossible to rent a place if you don’t have a phone number. In the US you have the appliances coming with the apartments BUT, the fees that you pay to the brokers are INSANE!! at least in NY (some times more expensive than furnishing the whole apartment). I also moved to US without speaking a single word in english. You feel like you lost your personality, that part it’s so hard.
So I get your feelings and I agree that there are always random challenges and differences that will make the beginning harder. But, don’t worry, after 12 years, you will get used to it! ;)
Love it, yes patience is a virtue. We just take for granted how quickly we can be in and out of a grocery store, post office, or bank here. Looking forward to the next in the series.
Do you as a foreigner living there need to do the thumb print as a native Chileno needs to do for banking? I'm amazed at that simple solution that can combat identity theft that we don't do in North America.
x hahaha great question! Yes I do because I have my rut number so it all registers for me :) saludos!!
Mejor usa Pullman Cargo. Te ahorras muchos problemas.
Juan Ramón Ortega 👍👍 gracias!
Me encantan todos tus videos! Son geniales ! And also I practice my English by watching them! Thank you so much for all information and I’m looking forward to seeing another video of Pucon which is a town that I’d like to visit :)
Hi Jon I love to follow you on TH-cam, I was born in Viña Del Mar ! You experience in Chile was the same for me when I came to USA 45 years ago ( New York City). And Like you love Linares I Love New York! Cachái !!!!! Lol 😂
Greetings to the tree of you
Great videos man
Nice video..very informative...
Just be careful on the one wheel ..with the camera and traffic!
Gracias a dios q nunca te rendiste y siempre tuviste un espíritu de superar todos esos errores y espero con ansias todos los demás errores ojalá no te demores tanto en en subirlo o te mando una encomienda por starken chao pescadooooooooooo
Jon muy buenos tus videos, y saber de tu experiencia en Chile
01:39 la sirena del mediodía... tan chileno. La verdad desconozco si acaso otros países también lo hacen.
Te queremos. Exito y bendiciones.
Muchas gracias!!!!
y yo veo tus videos en ingles porque estoy practicando y aprendiendo mas y debo escuchar ingles nativo pero no me gusta escribir en ingles por eso llegue a tu canal y lo encuentro muy bueno me suscribi y veo tus videos
John dont worry .Enjoy life .Can you make a video with Moises running I love to see mi chilenito hermoso corriendo.
Jon,
My wife likes your videos as well. She says they don't speak normal Spanish in Chile. They speak castellano. I have also made the mistake of using the words ESPOSA and caliente in the same sentance.
Jon, pero eso te ayudó a estudiar y comprender mejor el idioma.
Y bueno... Lo de los 5 errores , eso ya fue. Bendiciones a Moses y Elise y también para ti ,son una hermosa familia .
Mi madre nació y se crió en Linares junto a su abuela , vivía en la calle Arturo Prat #50.
Muy identificado con tu valentía de moverte a otro país... Linares es una zona bellisima, saludos desde UK!
I mean in the US somethings take forever not everything but somethings waiting to get my photo taken at the DMV took 3 hours once for me. I once had to get my high school diploma authenticated that took weeks to get done.
yes in south america we breath and live football or "Soccer''
Hi Jon - oh yes. In Chile they employ a lot of people to perform a task that could be done more efficiently. Back in 2000 I returned to Chile for a 3 week visit to celebrate Y2K with my family after being absent for about 25 yrs and line-ups, go to another window, and general bureaucracy, lack of organization and deficiencies was the major cause of my frustration ...
Learning Spanish would have definitely help, no doubt about it; but you are now managing - no one moves to another country without having the scars to show for it and you learn from it. I have made similar types of faux pas which were very embarrassing, fortunately the people I was with were understanding and taught me better. As to rentals, yes - Chile and so many other Latin and even some European countries also have similar types of arrangements ... hard to comprehend that you have to install your own counter-tops on a rental(?)
Take care Jon, nice to see Little Moses running in the puddles.
AidaJof super interesting to hear your similar story! I think scars are necessary too and what a cool word to describe it. They only make you stronger right?
Ha..ha..You forgot the revenue stamps necessary for some documents in Chile ....The cleks even tell you "You can't stick them ,the only entitled to do it is in the next window ,he's the guy with the longest tongue according to the newly passed laws ,if you dare to do it , this service might issue an indictment against you...If you have a forked tongue ,the accusation is worse...You are violating the sanitary code twice..".Ha..ha...That's the red tape in this strip of land we all love endlessly.
You are absolutely right ... not every Tom, Dick or Harry is qualified to lick those stamps in place of document riddled in red tape ... Take care
@@JonGrossGringo Stronger, definitely! Your heart is in the right place evidenced by your posting these lessons for others to learn. Thank you and all the best for you, Elise & Little Moses.
It''s more expensive to put an house with furniture in the market. We "love" taxing stuff in here...
God! you are funny as heck John! But, seriously now. I love that you decided to go living in my country of birth! It could be overwhelming sometimes like I'm sure you have experienced already. It's a beautiful land and especially in the region you live on, the sights are amazing and there's a lot more to see and enjoy. Now you know how I felt when I arrived in the good old USA some 47 years ago, America is my home now and I love it so, I met the love of my live here and I'm happily married to her for the past 42 years. but enough about me, what made you to decide to move into Chile and if it's not prying into your life if you can divulge the reason for it? Thanks for your videos, they're very entertaining and I enjoy watching them, if I can help with anything about my country of birth, I'll be happy to assist you! Lots of luck there, living in Chile could be very rewarding!