Why Democratic Socialism Is Gaining Popularity In The United States
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- Socialism used to be a scary word in the U.S., but presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders and freshman Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have helped to catapult it back into mainstream American politics. In the latest explainer from CNBC we try to answer what socialism means to different parts of the political spectrum and whether it's fad or the future of politics in America.
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Why Democratic Socialism Is Gaining Popularity In The United States
Swede here:
We're NOT democratic socialists.
We have social democracy.
A free market with taxes that fund a welfare system.
Well market in EU is pretty heavily regulated (which is a good thing), so I wouldn't call it a free market.
@@darrak1 Most european staates have implemented a "Social Market Economy", which is also called the "Rhine Capitalism" and was originally founded in Germany.
@@matze5998 but now liberal capitalism is pushing back, whit Brexit and in Netherlands. Germany in recession, they will too get on the liberal wagon, or bankrupt themselfs by providing free stuff to immigrants.
@@darrak1 no such thing as a free market, at least not one I've ever seen or heard of
American here, what bernie means by socialism, is what Scandinavia and Canada have, free healthcare, free college, and less wealth inequality.
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They're not a charity
david lin bb..bu...but....SOCIALISM MAKES EVERYTHING FREE right?
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Bernie's own economic policy advisor thought he was a moron for using "socialism" to describe "social democracy."
Because clearly Bernie knows the difference and it’s a dog whistle
bernice advocates very mild social reforms
OK Capitalist 🐷
Every sane person thinks Bernie is a more on.
When during the Trump administration the bottom 1/5th of wage earners had their incomes rise the fastest of all groups. That was the first time that had happened since the George W Bush administration.
Because both Trump and W. used Kennedy's theory of using lower taxes, less immigration, deregulation, and smaller government to tighten up the labor market. Which raises wages, allows mobility, allows for advancement, and gives people dignity.
Compare that to the Democrat policies of using high taxes, over regulation, open immigration, and big government to put permanent slack into the labor market. Which drives down wages and drives up housing prices at the same time, to the point tens of millions of people don't have any money left over at the end of the month. And it's the low wages at the bottom that allows the excesses at the top, causing the wealth gap.
Raising the bottom 1/5th of wage earners wealth relative to everyone else is something liberals will never be able to do because of their policies.
If Bernie actually cared about working class people, Bernie would be a Kennedy Reagan conservative.
@@practicaliching2311 ridiculous!!
Socialism is when the workers own the means of production. State ownership is not in and of itself socialist.
So Communism isn't socialism?
@@user-qq6mp9bp2q communism isn’t state ownership. Communism is a stateless classless moneyless society. It’s utopian and has never been achieved.
@@user-qq6mp9bp2q no, communism it isn't the state having things. Communism is a society without state, money and class. Socialism is a system that desire communism. In socialism the state would be controlled by the working class and corporations, industries and big farms would be transformed into cooperatives of workers.
Not all socialists are communists.
@@user-qq6mp9bp2q All socialists desire to surpass capitalism. So they are all communists in this sense
I love it when people forget that there are different ideologies within ideologies. It's not just Capitalism and Socialism. Politics are not this simple.
Politics should be simple.
Exactly, all socialism is the same in practice, not all capitalism is. Socialism means the government controls the market. Capitalism means privately owned business, but theres anarcho capitalism, free market capitalism, regulated capitalism etc.
@Paul Drusbasky "if you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything." I'd like to be left out of it too, but it's your responsibility as an American citizen to engage in the politics and defense of this nations founding principles as outlined in the constitution and bill of rights. If you aren't going to stand up for your rights then you don't have any.
@@mando5224 Based.
@@mando5224 lmao not all socialism is the same in practice. And the different types of capitalism just give you different amounts of suffering. On one hand, you have anarcho-capitalism, which is basically just returning to feudalism. On the other end you have social democracy, which tries to prevent people from dying without addressing the main problems.
This has gone beyond ridiculous. I just had a conversation with an American who called President Nixon a Communist.
I agree, this propagation of fear only leads down a dark path.
Lol
He was clearly a commie, you commie! REEE Vuvuzuela Animal Farm 100 million dead no iPhone
@@chinggiskhan6678 What the hell are you saying??? Try to be a little more clear.
@@neloglass animal farm 100 million dead venezuela
I remembered a joke:
"Let's be socialist"
No, every country that tried it failed
"But look at Norway, they are doing it fine"
No, they just have strong social welfare
"So let's have social welfare like Norway"
No, that is socialism
Welfare only works without immigration
Yeah what you said is explained perfectly in this video
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FD,s and PD's are socialist. So are public libraries. So is having a military (even though the U.S. has more firearms than humans which raises the question, why does the U.S. need a military?). City parks, County Parks. Public lands. Public defenders. Internet / internet access (however, most of you out there do not know how to set up protocols to gain net access. That is why you need to pay an ISP to do that for you.)
Norway is a social democracy not socialist
Bruh population difference
A military reserve member and co-worker [I think he was Air Force] once told me, "I might not agree with what you said, but I will protect your right to say it." I'm glad I live in such a society.
“I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
Voltaire
"We aren't a socialist country, we are capitalists" - every single country in northern europe, and its true
We have a mixed economy so it is a combination of planned economy and free economy, We are in a sense both
@@angrybanana5476 yes you are absolutely right. But americans always say that the nordic countries and other european countries are "socialist" both the right and the left in the US, which just isn't true
@@atlithorarensen9219 americans call anything they don't like socialism/communism
no we are not. we are Democratic countries with socialist policies. please get your facts correct before you make statements about us Europeans - Patrick from Ireland.
@@patrickthomas8101 dude....I am european and yes all northern european countries are capitalist. Yes they do have a social safety net and some social policies unlike the US. but they also have a free market with a strong private sector. You do realise that both Ireland and Iceland have had, and may even still have more economic freedom than the US? - Atli from Iceland
It ia just incredible how this video got wrong the concepts of capitalism, socialism and communism at the same time.
To the passing neophyte reading this comment, this comment is for you. Familiarize yourself with the following terms:
*Capitalism* : A system in which the means of production are owned by a few private individuals. This manifests itself with the traditional business/corporate hierarchy; the business is owned by a group of a few very wealthy shareholders. People who call themselves capitalists might follow a very libertarian streak of beliefs, meaning that they believe there should be fewer government regulations on corporations that follow this traditional structure of ownership at the top.
*Socialism* : A system in which the means of production are owned by the public. Socialists often advocate for worker cooperatives replacing the traditional business hierarchy. Essentially, this means the business is owned by its workers rather than by its shareholders; workers can make decisions collectively/democratically as opposed to the traditional corporate structure in which CEO's and others at the top make the decisions rather than the workers. One thing to note is that markets are not exclusive to capitalism; you can have markets in a socialist economy (see "market socialism"). People who claim to be socialists often have very different beliefs regarding how they want socialism to be achieved. That is, some people want no government at all. Others want a government in place and for worker cooperatives to function in a market economy.
*Democratic Socialism* : Socialist economy alongside a democratic government.
*Communism* : Essentially similar to socialism, although there are no social classes and there is no state.
*Social Democracy* : Capitalism with a strong emphasis on regulations and a strong social safety net to promote the well-being of its citizens. Social democrats still believe in capitalism, where the means of production are owned by a few private individuals at the top, but want to enact regulations and intervention to promote social well-being. Social democrats are not the same thing as Democrats (US party). Social democrats are people with a social democratic ideology. Democrats are people who associate with the Democratic party, of whom many are neoliberals.
Bernie Sanders, at least according to the policies he pushes for, can more accurately be deemed a social democrat rather than a socialist or democratic socialist. However, we cannot know if in his own mind he holds actual socialist ideals but holds back on espousing them publicly.
It's 100% accurate. Socialism is poison.
@@3orovik Okay, boomer.
@@discreteelite_318 I am a boomer. Thanks :) 1994 baby.
@@3orovik Ok boomer
There is no "middle class". There are people who *have* to work and those who don't.
There are those who are unable to work do to some kind of disability and those who chose not to work because they get more money from the Government than they would get from a regular job - welfare, food stamps and e-card. I would help those who have a disability but let those starve who chose not to work - you don't work, you don't eat. I chose who gets my hard earned money, not those crooks in DC.
Not quite. The separation is between those that benefit from quantitative easing and those that don't.
47 likes... It shows how people can't understand a Golden take. WTF.
IF THERE are people who can choose to not work and still make a living there is something wrong in the system.
the middle class are considered to be people with higher paying jobs
@55Quirll
I don’t know if you’re aware of this, but people HAVE to work to get welfare nowadays, ever since that “ tax-and-spend Democrat”, Bill Clinton, ended “welfare as we knew it.” Even women with small children have to have a paying job. The only way a person can get welfare without working, is if he/she has SSI or SSDI pending. And, people on any form of welfare do not receive anywhere near the amount of money that many people assume they do. As for letting people starve if they won’t work, I’m glad to say there are many churches that provide free food to those in need. Or would you make that illegal?
I am wondering. I am german and we have universal healthcare. WE managed to figure out how to pay for all of that WITHOUT having 70% of Tax or Companies going bankrupt left and right....these are all just flimsy excuses because they KNOW that it would work.
Yes. It is easier to spew tropes and traffic in "innuendo" than intelligently discuss the facts. As the old saying goes: _"if you can't pound facts = pound the table."_ That is what you see vis a vis the conservative Right in America. Their "supply side economics" is a failure and they must endlessly spew fear and conspiracy theory allusions so as to distract as they have nothing else since the evidence does not back their claims.
not in the USA it won't, mind your own business german
@@tbewin1z143 pipe down buddy
@@aryanshah4703 in Germany, do people go to the ER or take an ambulance ride for the sniffles? they do here and the costs of that and other moronic behaviors adds up fast, we also have tons of illegal immigrants here who don't even pay taxes
The argument is always, "We cant afford this" when it comes to something that will be good for average Americans but whenever big corporations, banks, or Wall Street need a bailout we can pull it out of our ass.
Jorge Gutierrez isn’t that the governments fault? I mean, if somebody developed cold fusion and became a billionaire he did it fair and square. The government can already print out the money you want. Quantitative easing is printing trillions that make bill gates look like someone from Detroit. You should fix congress, not the economy
Exactly, our government is filled with corruption. We need companies to learn to not spend their money on buy backs but to set aside money incase of an emergency. It's expected of citizens so why not corporations?
Wallstreet bailouts are about 5 percent of what is being proposed here.
Two wrongs don't make a right. People that are really free market are people who are the most against bailouts. Don't get it twisted and pretend cronyism is a justification for more cronyism just because you want a handout. People should be paid for being a productive and not paid for not being productive, it's not rocket science.
izdatsumcp what is paying for being a productive
as a Norwegian i can tell you that the middleclass don't pay 50/60% tax. its more like 20/40% tax. so he was lying big time, just saying. and its kind of messed up that they did not correct the statement
We know the media here lies constantly. But if what you said is true that means you are possibly taxes less than Americans
@@GhostKingGeorge yes it all depends on your income. I pay around 25% tax.
@@Nicklasm98I get about 26% of my income taxed. Then there is fuel and sales tax. Probably ends up closer to about 32% In taxes. Then I also need to pay for insurances.
@@Nicklasm98 is that gross, or just income tax?
@@tarod3 income tax
In the late 1970s, growth in Western economies began to slow down and returns on capital began to decline. Governments came under pressure to do something about it - to create a ‘fix’ for capital. So they attacked unions and gutted labour laws in order to drive the cost of wages down, and they privatised public assets that had previously been off limits to capital - mines, railways, energy, water, healthcare, telecommunications and so on - creating lucrative opportunities for private investors.
Jason Hickel,
During the 2008 presidential campaign in the USA, when the Right denounced Obama as a Socialist (which he was/is not), one letter writer to the Baltimore Sun said "If socialism means that the rich have to pay more for the common good than they have thus far, then call me comrade."
The writer never paid taxes in his life. Go for the 30% consumption tax so all you lefty bums can pay your fair share too instead of spending others cash. Commie trash. 😆🤣
@@timfool Learn how to THINK rationally instead of making mindless rants. And how would you know the a letter writer to a newspaper never paid taxes?
When during the Trump administration the bottom 1/5th of wage earners had their incomes rise the fastest of all groups. That was the first time that had happened since the George W Bush administration.
Because both Trump and W. used Kennedy's theory of using lower taxes, less immigration, deregulation, and smaller government to tighten up the labor market. Which raises wages, allows mobility, allows for advancement, and gives people dignity.
Compare that to the Democrat policies of using high taxes, over regulation, open immigration, and big government to put permanent slack into the labor market. Which drives down wages and drives up housing prices at the same time, to the point tens of millions of people don't have any money left over at the end of the month. And it's the low wages at the bottom that allows the excesses at the top, causing the wealth gap.
Raising the bottom 1/5th of wage earners wealth relative to everyone else is something liberals will never be able to do because of their policies.
The problems you are blaming on capitalism are actually caused by big government Liberalism.
At the end the rich never pay more the middle class do, and the poor that improve a little bit his lifestyle has to pay too and then get back to being poor.
They will call literally anything socialist. Obama, a Moderate Republican in terms of his actual policy (much to the chagrin of everyone who voted for him hoping he was going to be the next FDR in a time where we truly needed one) was called a Marxist Socialist Communist Revolutionary despite pretty much being a third and fourth George W. Bush term, with only a few key differences between them. Bush Jr. and Obama were CLOSER in ideology to each other than someone like FDR or LBJ was to Obama LMAO.
Did anyone notice that Nancy Pelosi applauded when Trump said, "America will never be a Socialist country"?
Jacleen Allen
Because she’s not radical enough to throw away the best system in human history
@@ReformedSooner24 How is it the best system in human history? Unless you are rich, you can't get anything in this country.
True to her politician roots. Clapped as others did, but SAT as others did.
Whatever will get the most votes....
@@michaelpickard8779 Oh really if you aint RICH you can't get anything... PLEASE tell us what you can't get...
@@ReformedSooner24 do some research! The prosperity we have now came from free market + social safety net. If this is the best system, explain to me how come we're in economic expansion, yet salaries (adjusted to inflation) have been flat since the 80s? While the top 1% has gained $21 trillion over 30 years while the bottom 90% have lost $1 trillion over the same period of time
americans really don't know the difference between social democracy and democratic socialism
WRONG!!!
@@steveTGO ?
Americans don't even know the difference between universal healthcare and communism
@Independent Thinker where do u live
@@tranwilson8 literally it's kinda sad tbh
As a socialist, socialism doesn't take away freedom. It gives more freedom and control to the people, socialism is meant for people and for a better humanity. Socialism is about maximizing freedom to the people and imagien that a corporation is run like a democracy where every single worker has a saying in the power to call out and all are able to make changes imagine that. However democratic socialism is not the solution socialism is.
Socialism is not necessarily "power to the people", but it can be. It is possible for socialist governments to lean toward authoritarianism. Democratic socialism shares many beliefs with socialism but is instead "power to the people", by definition. I would describe democratic socialism as halfway between a social democracy and plain socialism.
Capitalism (example: USA)
Social Democracy (halfway between capitalism and democratic socialism, example: Scandinavia)
Democratic Socialism (similar to socialism with some differences, also democratic by definition, power to the people)
Socialism (some socialists advocate for democracy, but socialism is not democratic by definition, example: Cuba)
Communism (historically authoritarian, difficult not to be authoritarian in practice)
Education is key which is why education is exclusive and eroding . The powers that be cannot exploit as easily an educated mass .
Imagine being unable to define communism or democratic socialism but trying to convince us you are an authority.
idiots in a nutshell
In nothing the ideology communist went democratic.The democrosy the true, to be in country communist not exist .Talk about eletion democratic but in nothing that happen.
Exist actor of Stand up in country communist?In pass having comedy who did critics The form of life who miseravable he had The people from soviet union ?Where The charlatan of religion marxist who was Karl Marx Talk more err and not amezing world idiot is when folling.
@Daniele Fabbro Not agree with that already own Karl Marx preached in a holocaust social and racial .What any government communist did went that murder ,arbitrayd jail and murder in mass..But not Just enime of party communist The own communist camareds .The repley of moviment ilumminist who death own leards who begin that moviment who went to copy of other wroting moviment and Karl Marx to copy too.
@Daniele Fabbro You had see than not exist democrosy in any government communist.
Im norwegian. Yeah.... dont call us socialists, we simply are not😁
You are welfare country And the social democracy party is Labour Party in norway and its big opposition now
@@parsasahi3879 actually Norway's largest political party is conservative
what would norwegians be considered?
@@kiingdoomz6844 Norwegians of course.
we know Norway is not socialist we just say that because it is helpful to our cause
I live in the UK where we all get health care. It was built up after WW2 to help the British with the wealth gap as they paid like the US. You can't imagine the peace of mind it gives you? Remember everyone ages! You might need that hip replacement surgery? In the UK it cost nothing, in the US it costs $45.000. A prescription in the UK cost £9 ( $11) the US has the highest maternal & infant mortality rate, the highest death rate for avoidable or treatable conditions? So basically the health care in the US is the most expensive in the world & one of the worse! Most groundbreaking treatments are too expensive for most Americans! For this reason i will never understand why the word socialist is so dirty! It looks like propaganda has worked? Meanwhile big pharmaceutical corporation as rubbing their hands together making millions of dollars! Good luck.
Denmark Prime minister "Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. It is a market economy. "
Same with China
@☠MrHairyNutz☠ The US takes from others to give to others so it is socialist.
In this case it takes from the poor and gives to the rich.
With free healthcare and supplies for the poor.
Roland Tuason move to Denmark
@Roland Tuason Your comment reads like an advertisement.
when you come from east-germany it's really funny to see what is called socialism in the United States. Things you call Socialism are just regular things in almost every european country.
No go zones? I see where you get your news from. Please stop watching those propaganda channels.
@Life In The Faith Lane If your spelling is any indication of your education, Ill go ahead and just make fun of you instead of taking your opinion to heart. You're dumb. Ha, got her!
Sebastian Zenker yes I do find it funny that most people don’t realize that Bernie isn’t really a socialist
@Life In The Faith Lane Ah yes, blame the brown people for all of society's problems while the rich and big corporations get tax cuts and still do not pay their workers enough to live.
Those damn immigrants.
@Life In The Faith Lane Youre conflating two very very different things. If the local population doesnt pay their fair share in taxes then the systems as we have them in (most) of Europe would crumble, regardless of where the people come from. Mass migration does put a heavy strain on our systems but they do work very well as long as everyone pitches in. And despite the influx of many people who do not pay into our systems our countries still manage to maintain an incredibly high health standard where almost everyone is covered in some way, and you wont be put into the situation of not being able to pay your hospital bills.
That said, your strong emphasis on foreigners in a debate that literally has nothing to do with them shows just how racist you are.
When asked about the "failures" of the Soviet Union, and Venezuela, she should have talked about the sanctions, and American policies designed to destroy Socialism by any means necessary.
Did you wonder why America could sanction Venezuela but not Venezuela could sanction usa
That's because a capitalism is always superior to socialism and socialism is under capitalist foot
Remember capitalism can thrive without socialism but socialism can't thrive without capitalism
capitalistic wealthy view. What the hey is evil about being fair and generous
That is enough reason to consider socialism bad, because it's fragile, it's easy to destroy. "Oh US was so mean to USSR, capitalists were so evil to us venezuelans😥" ok? Welcome to the world, this is a competition.
@@igorm.614 life is fragile. governments are for the people or only for the elete. I would rather pay 80% taxes, live in a two-bedroom home, and make sure a child goes to a good school and receives vaccinations than for me to live in a McMansion. It is about choices.
@@Itme All of those things Nordic countries provide, and they are not socialists (I mean, the marxist socialism). We could provide that. My only point is that attempting to eliminate capitalism (like Cuba has tried) didnt work anywhere, and is veeery utopic. So, most likely in this century the vast majority of countries will still be capitalists and driven by a solid capitalism, especially in the US.
I'm happy to see that Americans are finally starting to wake up from the American Dream they have been fed for decades and are finally starting to understand that Socialism is for their own good.
The irony of course is that those who pushed "supply side" on the masses over the years = are the very ones responsible for its eventual demise. Human nature is always a potential problem as it lends to "greed" which foments abuses within the system while those abuses invariably in time stimulate calls for course correction. Thus as you alluded to the excesses of unfettered "supply side economics" whose natural course of evolution results in monopolies and exploitation of workforces now serves as impetus for abandonment of the same. 🤨
p.s. - there are no true "isms" out there by the way. What is more likely is that just as you see in say Europe what eventually happens is a "blended system" which incorporates facets of socialist policies with some of the benefits of capitalism = hence "democratic socialism" as the video alludes. Basic needs to be better addressed by the government while the marketplace is allowed to operate - within limits created via regulations to limit the aforementioned excesses and the creation of monopolies. The answer as always is usually = somewhere in the middle.
Wow, starvation is for one's own good? LOL, yep, the US is an ignorant country with quarter of the population being illiterate and over half being functionally illiterate.
DSA needs to run socialists in socialist parties. Not just the Democrats
@@handsfortoothpicks That will put the stake into the heart of the US economy.
@@violetvio9117 no it wont lol. soviet economy was second greatest
I think what Bernie and many Americans actually want is social democracy. The Scandinavian countries have 'social democracy' not 'democratic socialism'. There is a HUUUGE difference between these two.
Initially yes ... Eventually no.
Well at least, they dont call it communism
@@baiwuli6781 Social democracy is regulated capitalism, not communism LMAO
Yes I agree
i wouldn’t say theres a “HUUGE” difference. the only difference is economic structure. Most policy is the exact same.
Why this narrator sound like the watch mojo lady?? Lmfao
I’m sure it is the same person or who’s to say it isn’t
I don’t think watchmojo would like a pro-socialist video lol
I'm sure she is the same person
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California Wildfires hey if you like socialist society leave America
We already live in a corporate socialist society. Where all the corporations benefit from the subsidies
Remember what George Carlin said, the owners of the TV networks , decide what you can see and hear.
Yeah, but guess what? Carlin was a self-described socialist.
@@CptGravel My point is , tv networks report propaganda and lies , just to brainwash Americans. Best example Rachel Maddow and Russian collusion.
@@romanromanowski9038 A better example would be OAN and the idea of a stolen election
@@ominousromanpillar238 left wingers must be really proud of this warmonger president , we need more wars !
@@romanromanowski9038 do they I want feet off the ground but im a moderate republican so I wouldn't know
Denmark and Sweden are not Socialist contries. And free College degrees in our contries does not mean for all. You have to qualify with high school grades.
Actually you are democratic socialist. As is my home country the UK where we have the NHS. No sane person wants the mess that is the American medical system. In my view neo-liberal capitalism is reaching an end point where in the US and even European countries the idea that greed is good, that company's only obligations are to stock holders - the same model that existed in the 1800s - has resulted with the very few having all of the wealth. In the US 3 men have more wealth than the bottom 50% of the country. That is a sign of a failed system.
Brian - any sane American would take that in a heartbeat here in the US. No one's saying you should get a college degree for failing. Of course you should have to show progression through the education system itself before you get to college.
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They aren't socialist. They have social welfare yes but that isn't socialism. Private ownership still exists and the bourgeoisie still exist.
There’s a spectrum for all mixed economies, degree of government involvement and redistribution. Compared to America, the Sweden and Denmark are much more socialist.
Why the hell would anyone want socialism or communism??
Why not?
because in theory, it is possible for communism to not be authoritarian, though historically it always has been and is difficult to not be authoritarian in practice. additionally socialism is not always un-democratic.
Woof-so fact checking wasn’t in the budget, I see
Sorry but this thing is called "social democracy" not democratic socialism.
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Democracy is mob rule; two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner.
Well what is it then?
@@brianwhite4098 that's the Scandinavian economic model that Bernie Sanders wants. But he misunderstood this by calling it democratic socialism while its actual name should be social democracy.
Democratic socialism links very well together because the majority is stupid it's why in a democracy there will allways be socialism
Why why why USA Americans say "democratic socialism" when in reality they mean "social democracy"??
Also why do they think that Scandinavian countries have anything to do with socialism when Scandinavian countries of course have capitalist economies?
Почему что они подменяются понятия и неправильно использую термины. Такие проблемы присутствуют во многие партиях многих стран. История социал-демократии очень обширна, меньшевики написали очень много трудов по этому поводу.
Many people try to compare the US to Scandinavian countries, while failing to see some of the big differences. Culture is a big one. Lifestyle is another. How's the homeless problem in those countries? How many people are unemployed due to lack of wanting work? How many are happy to sit and collect unemployment, disability, or other forms of welfare that they don't actually need? How many are happy flipping burgers for a living as adults? How many are taught not to live beyond their means? By and large, when people from Scandinavian countries move to the US, they are very successful. There's good reason for this.
Socialism in the US rebranded itself in this way after fall of USSR. The idea was to get socialism in through the back door of democracy. This succeeded, as even I might have called myself a democratic socialist, thinking this means “as much socialism as you want,” until I realized it was somewhat a “communist plot.” I actually believe in as much, but only as much, socialism as we vote for. I am profoundly distrustful of communism and radical processes which have created more suffering and death than the world has ever known.
because long term their goal isnt that long term their goal is central planning if it wasnt they wouldn defend cuba
There’s a BIG difference between a democratic socialist and a social Democrat.
Blind, you are, see? you do NOT. ~ Yoda
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because crony capitalism is failing the 98%.
Lack of government regulation and control is bad,
Too much government regulation and control is bad,
It's all about balance
You are right. But government cannot be judge and jury. How the one who manage the state can itself be free to determine the size of it. That's just wrong.
Just like china
In life you cannot have balance you can only have trade offs
Well your getting your total government domination!!!
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@Guto Füchs That only speaks to your ignorance. When you watch videos like this, they are supposed to trigger you to research more, not just listen and say "ok let's do this". Only the sheeps do that, whether it is people who blindly follow Bernie or blindly follow Trump.
Suddenly everyone's noticed their living standards are being adversely affected.
I mean, who else would have the time or will to watch a 26 minute video about American politics on TH-cam?
Politic will never be a science
The biggest issue with socialism is not that its intent is evil, but the practical implementation, practice, and execution can be decidedly so. Primarily when its tenants are carried to extremes.
Even what I am saying here is a gross simplification of a hugely complicated economic and political dynamic. I will tell that I think this mini doc was informative, and the comments in the post are pretty interesting too.
Narcissism is also a driving factor behind Socialism. Just like far right movements like fascism, there's a superiority complex followed by actions geared towards satisfaction, either personal or ideological.
For example, with philanthropy and social services, narcissists will often advocate for policies and practices geared towards yielding more immediate and visible results. Their lack of empathy is demonstrated through their complete indifference to quality, thus they only measure impact on the basis of quantity. This satisfies their egotistical desires for a sense of moral superiority by creating an impression that they're "helping everyone".
Unfortunately, such practices repeatedly result in services of substandard and often inhumane quality
What does socialism & the far-right have to do with each other? How is socialism narcissistic?
@@kimbanton4398 They're both collections of ideals and values so completely divorced from reality that when they come into power, all hell breaks loose.
Socialism is driven by something called Pathological Altruism. Claims of "Free Housing for Everyone! Free Healthcare for Everyone! Free Education for Everyone!", the idea may make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, but it's unworldly unrealistic to pull that off due to finite amounts of resources and capital. Far too often people embrace these ideals and push the bounds to rational thinking, and it never ends well. From East Germany to Venezuela.
@@kimbanton4398 It's narcissistic because people base these values entirely on their OWN feelings and don't take into consideration the different needs and wishes of each individual. Thus, their incentive isn't to benefit others. They do it as a comfort for themselves.
Yeah you’d think they could hire someone who knows what socialism is....or it’s the msm intention to keep peoples view of socialism vague??
Thats because they are scared of the word, they dont understand the true meaning.
"We the people..."
Socialism is incredibly vague in general there’s multiple ways of viewing it while still technically still fitting the spot for its definition. All that really matters in the system in which it’s implemented and who is implementing it. And how it is implemented. You can implement it successfully but governments can also ruin it. In the same way our current economic system is already corrupted. Capitalism is better than feudalism but it has a lot of crippling flaws in the same way communism does. Socialism is a huge wide middle ground. Not a set standard. And it’s important to note that non of these are inherently totalitarian nor free. How we decide regulate them is what matters. Capitalism without regulation only leads to business owners owning everything and companies controlling the country. If the government is given too much power over the people and the wrong people are in power at the time with the unique system at the time (one could argue human nature decides that) then you’ll have a complete empire. With a ladder of power dictating peoples lives.
5 year plans and massive starvation 2020 proves that "Democratic" is a buzzword and it will be just as authoritarian as it always is
@@rageraptor7127 meh socialism all sucks honestly we need a revolution to return to a sort of medieval legal structure where violating private property is considered treason
Did you even watch the video? wow
"Socialism is when the government does stuff. When it does a lot of stuff, that's communism" ~CNBC
@Adil Alfa Cool I didn't know that capitalism didn't have poor that remained poor.
All this time I thought socialism involved a redistribution of wealth and power. I.E. the opposite of what you said.
I'll give you this though, in capitalism the wealthy remain wealthy.
Having fled from a socialist country I can tell you in socialism the poor don't get wealthy, everyone just becomes poor and miserable while those in power become rich. There is no such thing as a free meal, the socialist utopia is a pipe dream.
@@Ingcivilcarlos Nothing about your experience applies to Bernie unless the country you fled is Denmark or Canada.
@@Ingcivilcarlos If the vast majority in your country became poor while wealth was concentrated in the hands of a few, then almost by definition this was not socialism. What country did you leave?
Mr Shishu its socialism there is no sugarcoating. By nature if you give power to the gov’t it will only look out for the interests of their own,not for the good of the people. Socialism has killed millions of people in its history, ie soviet russia,cuba,venezuala,zimbabwe,north korea,Uzbekistan, etc etc etc. Btw, the so-called socialist nations like Denmark and sweden are not socialism,they are a free market economy with low taxes. Im a millennial and support capitalism as it has been one of the few methods that has lifted people of out poverty. You work and work smart,make wise choices and will be rewarded for such choices
Workers of the world unite, you having to lose but your chains.
Long live the left!
Being an american political activist is a sin.
I'm not against making money. That's why I work, so that I can make enough money to live and enjoy life. What bothers me is that I'm not allowed to save enough money to live and enjoy life. 😡
"I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals. In such an economy, the means of production are owned by society itself and are utilized in a planned fashion." - Albert Einstein
this guy really said peeing in bottles for amazon was the American dream lol
I don't want to have to be forced between an authoritarian communist society and an authoritarian monarchist society. But if you make me choose, I'm going to side with whichever team promises me the the heads of the legacy press.
He isn't wrong
@@adolfwasrite7009 calm down hitler damn
@@hueyfreeman1983 nah he’s wrong
@@adolfwasrite7009 "authoritarian communist society" communism has nothing to do with the state, it's a classless, moneyless, stateless society. You should read a book like The Principles of Communism by Fredrich Engels.
People are tired of Socialism for the rich
@ThatGuyOnTheInternet Everyone's opinion is worth the same, subsidizing big corporations is basically rich man welfare.
Angelina shave your moustache
yes we are
To anyone who thinks socialism doesn't work, yes we know! Socialism for the rich doesn't work, so let's do something about it!
@@OpiumBride You're conflating Socialism with totalitarianism and perhaps political correctness, and stripping away any nuance. There's nothing about socialism that makes free thinking and dissent "crushed." How people think, is in combination of factors like eduction, values, self-education, genetics, their social environment and other factors that have little to do with who owns the means of production. It doesn't matter who owns Nike, the wage slave factory worker in China assembling shoes got his education independently at a school that taught him critical thinking or it didn't. And, Monotonously toiling away for 60hrs a week may rot your brain regardless of who owns the company.
Better questions: Why don't developed countries, like USA, make it a requirement to learn critical thinking skills if it's not a "socialist" country? Why do most people not know that all developed countries today are mixed economies (has both socialism and capitalism characteristics)? Why are there people who think criticism of economies is something to be afraid of?
Economies are always changing, and we must always adapt. Criticism helps us to adapt. You're not oppressed just because you exchanged words with someone who disagreed with you, you are someone who was challenged. Learn from it. If you want to see an example of good types of socialism look up worker cooperatives like the Modrogon corporation.
Taking 20mg of Ambien and naked sleepwalking around, the American Dream.
The real reason why is because nobody has ever experienced real capitalism. The united states hasn't had capitalism since 1930.
Watches a video on Democratic Socialism, in the middle of it, gets an ad for an investment firm.
TH-cam fail. Lol
You are watching CNBC
Maybe you should invest instead of listening to an insane ideology that will in turn take all of your money. And if you don't have any money that also makes total sense lol.
I got communist potato famer
Capitalism built CNBC and it works better than socialism because it gives money to people who give the most to society. The rich 1/3 work hard and deserve it
The biggest problem with Americans when they try to deal with Scandinavian politics as a role model, they are being totally black and white thinking and getting everything wrong and getting lost in terms and FUD. If this Bernie camp really are promoting current Scandinavian politics, they are doing themselves a big disservice by calling their politics democratic socialistic. The current Scandinavian society is built upon big influence by parties that is labeled Social Democrats. Not democratic socialists. And investment firms is totally compatible with Scandinavian politics.
How can you present a “history of Democratic Socialism” while completely ignoring FDR????
I noticed that!
Because he is a dirty military veteran and we hates those
4:56
If u're wondering why it's "gaining" (NOT popular), it's only because more and more immigrants are flooding in!
@@noleftturnz I disagree. It is because the theory of socialism sounds wonderful and touchy feely, but discounts major aspects that rip up those theories. Notice how many leaders ignore or change the subject when asked about middle class tax hikes? They also never talk about how much government intrusion into your life is going to be, but in order to force companies to comply with their policies they have to either coerce, threaten, or knock the front door down and physically force you.
They also throw short tidbits (Gun Conrol, Censorship, Welfare programs, etc) but don't tell people everything... To really understand their intent, the people must connect the dots of all talking points to actually see the true picture. Indoctrination schools throughout the education system, no evidence to open trials, and the list goes on
Scandanavia had to change their system to an open market with social programs (pretty much what the U.S. is now) just to partially recover.
Socialism has great theories, but always fail in application.
The more socialist regulations created, the more intrusive the government needs to become.
You also gotta understand who took away those jobs in New York. It was Jeff Benzo leaving when he didn’t see anything in it for HIMSELF, taking the resources other people depend on with him.
Yes... as any other rich person would do. The problem isn't Benzo, is the whole system that makes Benzo's life so easy
I'm taking a drink every time she says something that's incorrect.
In my opinion, the comment section is way more interesting than the video itself lol
cheeky
It can be. From one opinion to many. Good thing we don't live in a socialist country where different opinions aren't appreciated/ tolerated. Yet.
[Insert a comment about socialism vs capitalism here]
After 2020 I don't trust any form of government
You should trust in capitalism
Socialism kills more than a war
@Edward Nicolas Arrienda Torralba
Do you speak Spanish?
Why don't you like freedom?
@Edward Nicolas Arrienda Torralba
What is your country model?
@DeeJay ViVo
Where do you live?
Thank a lot
If we're going to start any form a new garment we need to go forwards not backwards not socialism
As an old school European democratic socialist who has had the privileges that come with absolutely free kindergarden and primary, secondary and tertiary schooling, free healthcare, excellent public transport and numerous other amenities that are supplied by the state. I think most Americans don't get what socialism does. "Oh we have to have higher taxes! How am I supposed to maintain my living standards?", is a fair question. The point is, socialism means you need less money to live.
I live a beautiful life on 35k per year. I eat healthy food, and I'm a normal flexitarian. I can afford to workout everyday. Have a PC, laptop, high end phone. See my friends, go out twice a week. Live in a cheap, but great area surrounded by parks. I get to save for retirement, etc. etc. I can live a full life on 35k.
You don't need money to survive. That's the point. Nobody starves here and with that I mean that to eat healthy food is cheaper than eating junk food, because the government incentivises healthy living.
I just wish the majority of the American people would learn about how nice this life can be.
You show Bernie Sanders saying Denmark & Sweden are socialist countries.
But you don't show the Prime Ministers that called out Bernie saying their countries are not socialist.
There was a time when the news media just tried to get the facts out there without favoring their agenda.
Looks like CNBC doesn't fall into that category.
Somehow the question of how to pay for it always gets raised in the context of universal healthcare or social services, never in the context of endless war.
Both are impossible to pay for. Why not just go without both? This is what the two party system does. Look into libertarianism
That's because it's so much cheaper
@The Irish Italian How do other developed nations do it? Why can Canada and the UK and France do it but we, the greatest country in the world, cannot? I'm sure they are facing many if not all the problems you have listed and yet they managed to get it done. Rather than look for reasons not to implement such a system, maybe we should look for ways to actually implement it.
thank you barbara, it seems americans are waking up to the system of slavery,which must be stopped. They are dividing along ethnic,religious demographic lines. USA wakeup.
If you think military is not underfunded just as well think again. Besides do you really think that bill for military is bigger than throwing money on all poor?
Not gonna lie, 96% don't know the real definition, including me
In a nutshell, socialism means that the government controls your rights, wealth, liberties, production, businesses, health care, property, etc.
It's bad because in this setting, the government can take away or limit those rights, and take and redistribute your property and wealth. The wealth can go to many people, an organization, or maybe just one individual. It isn't a fair system.
However, there are many forms of Socialism, but they're all very similar in this nature. Nationalist Socialism (Nazism) is a very notorious form and very well known.
@@sisi7019 That is your biased personal definition of socialism. The true definition of socialism is "a range of economic and social systems characterized by social ownership of the means of production and workers' self-management, as well as the political theories and movements associated with them. Social ownership can be public, collective or cooperative ownership, or citizen ownership of equity."
Note the phrase "a range of economic and social systems". The kind of socialism the Democratic Socialists of America are pushing for is unlike any previous version of socialism. They acknowledge that the state, if given too much power can be just as tyrannous as any capitalist or corporation. That is why they support democratic socialism, which focuses on the decentralization of economic power through the use of democracy.
Many people think that democratic socialism is just state socialism with political democracy. It isn't, true democratic socialists believe in expanding democracy to include economic democracy as well as political democracy. This can be done through the use of democratic planning as well as collectively owned consumer industries that trade within a market. Here's a quote from the DSA:
"Social ownership could take many forms, such as worker-owned cooperatives or publicly owned enterprises managed by workers and consumer representatives. Democratic socialists favor as much decentralization as possible. While the large concentrations of capital in industries such as energy and steel may necessitate some form of state ownership, many consumer-goods industries might be best run as cooperatives. Democratic socialists have long rejected the belief that the whole economy should be centrally planned. While we believe that democratic planning can shape major social investments like mass transit, housing, and energy, market mechanisms are needed to determine the demand for many consumer goods."
In the short term the DSA and other democratic socialists like Bernie Sanders are focusing on achieving social democracy. Which involves capitalism with some social institutions that guarantee certain basic necessities. It also focuses on reducing the power of corporations through strong unions and sensible regulations. Here's another quote from the DSA:
"In the short term we can't eliminate private corporations, but we can bring them under greater democratic control. The government could use regulations and tax incentives to encourage companies to act in the public interest and outlaw destructive activities such as exporting jobs to low-wage countries and polluting our environment. Public pressure can also have a critical role to play in the struggle to hold corporations accountable. Most of all, socialists look to unions to make private business more accountable."
CessPool Ω yeah you don’t understand what the word means either mate
@@lukeg8466 great explanation!
Democratic Socialism OR Socialist Democracy ; Veterans Admin., Social Security, Public Education, libraries,fire dept.,police dept., 5 Day Week(weekends to socialize with Family and Community), Unions, Day Cares, Food Banks, Food Stamps , Minimum Wage , Post Offices, Fair Taxes .... etc ... All called Socialism at the time they were written !
Many Europeans commenting here have slightly missed the point. American standards of living have not improved for forty years and many educated Americans are aware people elsewhere have a much better quality of life. They just want what people in other developed countries take for granted.
thats the worst explanation of socialism iver ever heard
idk why bernie calls himself a democratic socialist. he's a social democrat
Max Rostaing It’s due to a widespread lack of knowledge about socialism. In America socialism is considered to be the same thing as communism and thus many treat is as a boogie man. This is not helped by the lingering effects of the red scare. So a lot of it is lack of understanding caused by current and past propaganda.
Politically Bernie is independent
19 countries of the G-20 all have free universal healthcare, and all 19 of them have lower average income per person than US, the USA with the highest average income don't have universal healthcare and are the only country to complain that it will be "too expensive".
I agree, as a true democratic socialist, I don't want to be mixed up with his views,
Agreed. He was basically sabotaging himself by mislabelling and unnecessarily dragging up the "socialism" spectre and fear of communism that is associated with it in the US.
A video on socialism is interrupted by running ads to aid in the company's revenue.
Rich.
AnnInTheMitt If I would be the president of America, I would make it illegal for the US citizens to use the word “socialism” - I’d have them use a definition of that word instead.
We still live in a capitalist economy, you have to play by the rules if you want to succeed
Even if you wish they were different.
The site needs to earn money to keep running....
@@peredavi
Capitalism. Even socialism needs it.
Lol... Democrats are so dumb.
They want socialism but will get an oligopoly in when Facebook Amazon Google some banks and oil producers will groom actors to be politicians to go to bat in their interests and when they mess up its not on the news because thats just their subsidiary 🤔 get it lol
Stop funding the industrial military complex.... Problem solved
We need more people like *Thomas Paine* in politics today.
The way you describe communism is wrong. And you describe socialism as a social democracy like Sweden.
Gotta put it in a way these knuckleheads understand lol.
Democratic socialism only exists in the U.S. In Europe it is called socialism. Also communism isnt the same thing as socialism in Europe. We make the difference between the Bolcheviks and the Menchviks. So when you talk about socialism in Europe try to use european terms and not american ones you will end confusing everything.
@@namesurname8725 you’re not wrong tbh. The size of government is big, and they let big pharma companies monopolise the market. The US has a mixed economy. Our market is heavily regulated by the government. Capitalism is when there’s little to no government intervention
@@jhon44mat nah bruh capitalism is when the means of production are owned by privatized companies or in some cases the government (Like China) sure there are socialist aspects that make American not completely LF and capitalism without regulation, but to say that a nation is not capitalist because it has regulation is to say you don’t truly know what capitalism is.
Bernie obviously thinks Sweden is a country of democratic socialism. Oh dear!
Greetings from Sweden
The first sentence: “Socialism used to be a very scary word in the United States.”
And it still is for a majority of people.
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I ain't tryin to turn a truck into a boat
Adrian S Lol 😂I’m a Gen Z
mjzyt ah yes, because it’s ideal to take everyone’s rights away, and give all the power to the government, that once had slavery and Jim Crow laws legal, anyone who wants total government control, for the “idea of safety and equality” and will have their rights willingly taken away are literally stupid. We have socialist ideas already in place, and they are demolished by the private sector everytime. People want government in control, have you seen the VA? What about the DMV? Look at what California and their socialist implications made, now they can’t even take care of their own people because of how much the spend on the implications, and they have one of largest economies in the world!
@2 nibbles or 1 Byte Mass murders == USA
Deficits == Millions of americans losing their homes during 2008 crash
Venezuela = Besides the oil industry (as in Norway) , what else is owned by government?
China = Currently many billionaires, leading in EVs, high speed train industries, biggest lender to USA
..get informed 2 x 1.
Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.
Alexis de Tocqueville
I think THAT deserves a repeat . . .
Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.
Alexis de Tocqueville
It’s about taking money from those who have worked and were successful And give it those who will not work and fail
a majority of poor people work, and most rich people have had some advantage in life, usually related to family.
Most wealth is inherited. Alot of poor people are brilliant workers, just their job identifies them to be on minimum wage. Does anyone really need a billion dollars, seriously? Capitalists are parasites who feed off the workers to fill their pockets.
Communism is a state of society where there is no Money, no Classes and no Countries. Thus no Country can ever be communist, it is something only the world entirely can achieve. Being a Communists means you believe that this is the next stage of society and hope to achieve this form of society.
Socialism is a much more realistic goal: Socialism is defined by Karl Marx as a System where the means of production are in the hands of the Workers, represented by the state.
So no private industry but rather only public industry wich is controlled by the workers in their respective fields.
Democratic Socialism is basically just that but with a democratic government.
Social Democracy is basically a capitalist system with a free market economy with some regulations and social benefits such as a minimum wage, some public industry in essential areas like public transport, housing and energy, as well as public health care and unemployment wages.
Social Democracys are what most European countries have.
Funny how socialism for the rich is just wonderful, but socialism for the regular people is a horrible idea.
I don't know if you know, but the revolutions of the 20th century are something that destroyed the image of Marxism, because greedy dictators seized power instead of the people.
Almost every modern socialist or communist should detest the Marxist revolutions of old.
Plus those nations were barely industrialized meaning that such a system could never prosper, especially after a violent civil war.
@@captain-chair Im from Hungary,and in 1956,we had a revulotion against the controll of the USSR and Stalinism of Mátyás Rákosi,not against socialism.We actually won the revulotion itself,but then the USSR army came and destoryed the war of freedom.Freedom from the Warsaw pack,not free from socialism.Imre Nagy was a big socialist.Im just saying this because people in the US think we fought for capitalism.
Beni6746 Makes sense, Socialism itself has nothing wrong with it, its the people who betrayed the principles of socialism a.k.a the Totalitarian Soviets.
@@captain-chair Exactly.
Socialism for the rich is not good, do you even know what you’re talking about, and it’s also not horrible for the “regular” people. The definitions in this video are horrible. Also look at Denmark THE HAPPIEST COUNTRY IN THE WORD and it’s socialist, it’s the opposite of horrible.
When college kids come out of college with an enormous school debt and can’t find a job so their stuck in theirs parents basement for years what do you expect?
facts
When freshly brainwashed college kids come out of a marxist reeducation center with a worthless social studies degree and can’t find a job so their stuck in their parent's basement for years what do you expect?
FIFY
Thats true but dependant on your major. if you get a degree in drama or theater and such your chances of finding a job are very small. As times change demand for certain jobs change. Now being knowledgeable in computer software and hardware and buisness are huge assets. Many jobs are open to you. In many cases you don't need college you can learn a trade, start a buisness, i made a living for a while selling online by going to garage sales, estate sales, storage units and trading items less in demand for items more in demand. i agree college is expensive and overpriced but sadly when people think you can't make money without a college degree and people go to school for degrees that aren't the most valuable to the modern market gives colleges full campuses sp they make money.
@@LordTyrion Facts
@thomas jefferson I think you could say that about the non-educated population of any nation.
The difference is that they respect your natural rights, your right to your own life, your right to own property, your right to pursue your happiness and your freedom of thought. In fact if you push them hard enough they will avidly fight for said rights.
On the other hand the final products of colleges, the neo-marxist youth with worthless social studies degrees will absolutely pursue any and every opportunity to do away with natural rights.
From this viewpoint the uneducated underclass is much less prone to brainwashing than the average college student, their ignorance is exactly what kept america running for the past 30-40 years.
Lowering standards for education? Yes, to be inclusive, diverse and equal! Now idiots are everywhere! Proof? Right here.
Never heard of "TheJacobin" magazine. Abolish the senate? That would be very radical! The senate is where all the big issues of America are debated. If that happen America would cease to be a democracy. What would happen to "We The People"?
Great, not even 3 minutes in and they didn’t get simple definitions correct, come on now
Can you correct them?
@@flavius2884
Socialism isn't when the government does stuff. Socialism is when the workers democratically own the means of production. What they're talking about here is social democratic policy
@@tadstrange1465 love how people manipulate definitions to try and fit their narrative, there is a state in socialism not in communism because socialism is supposed to be a transitionary stage into a stateless society and dictionaries back that
@@beargrills5936 And I love how you think socialist democracy is even real socialism.
Marx isn't right about everything ya know!
@@JastwatchingYT I love all y’all’s user names
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@@aria.6844 ya but u can’t on mobile
@@aria.6844 WHICH ONE
Cant you just pay like 10 bucks , ?
Socialism lol.
Or you could just move to GabTV... that's where everyone is headed now.
Im Australian. We have universal health care, welfare and relatively a lot of government housing4.2% + gun control and ZERO massacres in 25 years. Yay socialism✊️
We're not socialist
We’ll start seeing more and more people,retire,because of age….and they’ll have nothing.the bosses will have more than the workers can imagine.
Correction: The bosses have always have more than the workers can imagine, it just so happen that now it is too in your face and the disparity is too huge to ignore
5:24 why is Finland represented as a part of the USSR when it has been independant since 1917?
Propaganda.... basically.
@@iamaloafofbread8926 It's just a mistake. they used to be part of Russia so that's probably why they accidentally left them there
@@mayrbek123 finland kicked their ass when they tried to invade them
@@jarkkosantala1552 Yeah but i'm saying it was probably a mix up
american education system !!
I feel bad for whoever made this video. Imagine having to make a whole video on socialism without even knowing what it is
EXACTLY!!!!
Well, Americans redefined liberalism to something entirely different, perhaps they will do the same for the word socialism.
@@davesmith9151 oh definitely. Communism used to mean stateless socialism but now means authoritarian socialism .
Socialism often leads to tyranny
@@lsx7611 fascist Italy, imperial japan, nazi germany, Taiwan and South Korea doing last half of 20th century, almost every latin American country that the US help overthrow, Iran between 1955 to late 1970s.
Denmark and Sweden have free market, capitalist economies...just like the US. Businesses exist to make a profit...just like in the US. There is private ownership of property...just like in the US. The difference between them and the US is that they value their people and invest in their people...while the US only values money.
The unstated tenet of economic conservativism of which the rubepublican party in the US upholds is = _"Profit Uber Alles"_ Ergo they are on a hamster wheel perpetually going round and round rationalizing how a small percentage of the population profits greatly at the expense of others via _"I got mine...........so tough luck about you."_ It is a singularly egocentric and myopic as well as ultimately a self-defeating worldview. History shows again and again whereby populations exploited eventually push back and clamor for change.
Why does Denmark and Scandinavia say that they aren't democratic socialist or socialist, but Market Economies? Why do socialist in the US switch from one socialist country to another one as they fail? Why do people from socialist countries keep coming to the US? Your company and those pushing socialism have earned their riches through capitalism.
You guys have no idea what socialism, capitalism or communism even mean.
Literally - like how many democratic socialists want to abolish capitalism?
@JamesHLanier why do you want to get rid of voluntary trade between individuals and replace it with a gov mandated supply chain? ?
I'm Honestly curious and open to changing my mind... Thanks
e dups most but not Sanders. Sanders isn’t a socialist. You can’t have a fully community owned means of production AND private owned. Capitalism allows for coops but socialism does not allow for private owned. That’s why there are no successful socialist countries
MajorLeague sanders clarified that he’s not for pure socialism or democratic socialism. He has backtracked to say “some capitalism “ is ok. Wolff in his recent debate also has backed off pure socialism. Most socialists if you really keep pushing they back down in debates. I was shocked when Wolff said some capitalism would be Ok. Really .... floored. It was a complete reversal for him.
@@BracaPhoto "why do you want to get rid of voluntary trade between individuals and replace it with a gov mandated supply chain?"
That isn't what socialism means. Socialism means that *the workers* own the factory they work in, not the govt, and not some fat-cat who was born owning the factory. Communism is where the govt owns it. Capitalism is where some useless monopolist billionaire owns it. Socialism, actual socialism that is rarely tried, works better than either. For more on this, check out "Mondragon Experiment" but not here. Yootoob took down the full doc a few years back. All you can find here are interviews and short clips about the idea. Vimeo has the complete documentary though. Get popcorn, its about an hour long. Its the most valuable thing I learned in earning an econ degree. Here's a teaser: China had 8% growth for 30 years and economists called it a "miracle" b/c it outperformed the US even in the post-war boom. But over those same years, the Basque Country had a whopping *80%* growth. The logic is simple: when workers are the ones to profit from their labor, they work harder and smarter than when some fat-cat who treats them like garbage takes home all the profits.
Oh my lord every time Americans try to define socialism I can just feel my brain cells turning to mush
Yeah, can we just get a new word lmao.
@@quinn7072 call it "barney world"
Cause all the fh.
Get demonrats will think an do as there bildeberg overlords tell them an there pthtic asses to do.
@kal Ke Define socialism
@kal Ke No I'm asking you to actually define socialism because I don't think you really understand what it is
@kal Ke the united nations want a global socialist communists Marxists global controlled , reD the adjena 21-30 Dcument , I thank God we not live in north Korea, or Russia . globalpossibilities.org/112091-2/
What an amazing world to come. Working hard to give your money to people that did nothing so they can get some drugs! Also why should I have to pay for others healthcare and college? It’s not free, everybody pays for it in taxes. Also? If I win the lottery, who won? Me, or the government and other citizens of the country?
Why do people living in the US think that Socialism is bad. I’m very interested in their perspective
Bro just look at eastern europe
@@duruarute5445 but so is the south and the west of Europe, do you mean as if all the Eastern European areas are the bad side of socialism?
@@Zehahahaa because people want freedom
Freedom to run their businesses exactly as they want without government interference.
"democratic socialism" and "social democracy" are 2 totally different things. Anybody not knowing the difference should not debate anyone. All the examples of well run "socialism" like Denmark is accomplished by social democracy and NOT plain socialism.
Oh so you guys are not mentionning Sweden anymore? Go figure.
Give it another 5 years and you'll be saying "This is not socialism like Denmark but like - the recent example where socialism has not rotten the country yet.
"This is not pure socialism learn the difference this is better"
- Democrat socialists.
- Also, National Socialists.
erwin I, no they are not. I question you actual practical familiarity with this subject. We got democratic socialists and social democrats in Norway. They were in a coalition government from 2005 to 2013. The difference was not huge. That is why they could be in government together. They had a lot of overlapping policies. Our finance minster was a democratic socialist in that period. Before 1985, the social democrats themselves labeled themselves democratic socialists. So this distinction between social democrats and democratic socialists is a fairly modern development.
The policies promoted by Bernie Sanders and AOC are all solidly social democratic policies. But keep in mind a lot of those policies in at least Norway got passed at a time when social democrats also called themselves democratic socialists. The differences are a lot more fluid than I think you are willing to admit. Keep in mind the US has a very different political history from Nordic countries. To my knowledge there is no social democratic party in the US to speak of, so democratic socialism has more prominence.
You can just look to France with a different political history. Their socialist party, is essentially a social democratic party. Don't get too hung up on labels. Look at the policies!
also, Denmark's leader openly and proudly admits his country is not a socialist country, and he wished Americans would stop using it as an example of a successful socialist country
@@IzaakCha7
> Denmark's leader openly and proudly admits his country is not a socialist country
In some ways it doesn't really matter what Danes think, because Americans have made up their own version of what socialism means.
I am a Norwegian and I have struggled for years to wrap my head around what Americans mean by socialism, because it certainly has nothing to do with actual socialism as advocated by actual socialists.
My conclusions is that in America socialism simply means high taxes and extensive welfare services. Big government equals socialism in America. So by that token, Denmark is most definitely socialist.
"Democratic Socialism is somewhere between capitalism and Socialism... Others want to abolish capitalism entirely."
I didn't even have to read between the lines on that one.
BUT COMMUNIST U WANT TO BRING BACK STALIN AND GULAGS?????!!!!!! idiots when they see the slightest reference to sharing
@@JustAnotherNamelessGuy Sharing by force is not sharing, it's called stealing. And if you look at the comments of staff members of your favorite Democratic Socialist, Bernie, they actually want to bring back gulags and land seizure by force. Idiots are people that repeat the same mistakes and don't take basic economics courses.
@@zztopz7090 Ok alex jones
@@JustAnotherNamelessGuy OK zoomer
@@zztopz7090 In contrast, hoarding is just as selfish as stealing.
Take the money out of politics. Do that then at least the people will be back in control. We need leaders that are interested in doing what's good for the people and the country. Today they are doing what's good for the banks and the corporations. America needs a new "new deal". Let's fight the disease not the symptoms.
I think 3 years later we can say that the DSA policies are a disaster. Time to back up
When it comes to helping our own people by spending money on education and healthcare, there is no money to spend.
But there’s always money to spend on endless wars and handouts to the rich
Unless of course you're an illegal in California, then we roll out the carpet. If you're a Vet or citizen, we don't have time or money for you. It's getting ready to pop.
SuperNoah160 - that’s because of YOUR Democrats! Think for one second who these presidents were that signed on wars and bailouts. Obama = bailouts, war
yeah notice your guy, last time (mine too if i'm being honest, at that time) BAILED OUT WALL STREET ESCALATED AFGANISTAN CREATED A MESS IN SYRIA, AND NOW YOU ARE CREATING A MESS OUT OF NOTHING AT HOME, AND IF YOU GLOBAL COMMUNIST TECHNOCRAT ELETIST IGNORANT DELUSIONAL FUCKTWAT DON'T WATCH THE HELL OUT IT WILL GET QUITE MESSY. GET YOURSELVES TOGETHER DEMOKKKRATS.
@@nichts4374 stfu we roll out the carpet for the pentagon, which is where all the waste happens. Defense is the biggest drain on the budget, and conservatives have lost their mind with the spending, the debt and the deficit, all to destroy the world, its despicable.
Yep! So true!
Let me define the terms, and I'll win the argument -Aristotle
Be careful listening to CNBC people.
German here:
Because they point things out that work in the rest of the world and shows how unable americans are to seperate autharian socialism with a social democracy?
be careful listening to fox news.
@@manimustermann749 I don’t listen to Fox News. I am a lefty. If you think CNBC is credible. You have a lot to learn my friend.
Did Aristotle really say that?
Yes, Aristotle totally said that.
Exactly
"They told us to stop filming & leave", tells you all you need to know about those plotting for so-called "change" & seeking truth & transparency.
“And it’s actually more generous then other countries” that’s the point.
Because they have never actually experienced Socialism and media keeps perpetuating the blatant falsehood that Nordic countries are 'Socialist'.
Nordic countries...where the population is 98% white...
They have some social values public funded health care and tuition. Obvs they aren't socialist
@@nemonucliosis And so was Eastern Europe. Socialism just doesn't work no matter what people try to say.
@@thetraveler893 But it's going to work in the US if the dems try hard enough right?
Sweden and Denmark have free-market economies. Many people think that they are socialist because they have high government spending and high taxes. But that's welfare capitalism, not socialism. Socialism owns everything and means of production and gives you what they believe you need. Denmark has some of the most private property laws in the world, making them much more free-market
I work for Amazon, and it ain't the american dream, that's for damn sure
I don't doubt it.
So we're faced with Godless capitalism or Godless socialism/ communism, etc. I'll take Godless capitalism first, but the problem is our rejection of God. We honor Him with our lips, but our hearts are far from Him. That's why we have Hillary Clinton not only advocating for killing the unborn, but killing them up till birth (amongst other things) while publicly invoking God in speech, and Donald Trump declaring that he and God "were good" and that he doesn't need to ask for forgiveness, all the while fornicating, committing adultery, lying, etc., etc. The average American had no clue who God is, they have no relationship with Him. They believe in God and have vague notions about Him, either favorable or unfavorable, that are completely wrong. They believe in a God of their own making, thinking they're a good enough person and will go to heaven, effectively on their own merit, or because they don't understand that God is just and righteous, and they think that God will just overlook their rebellion and offense against Him. But they're wrong and lost, they have no relationship with God and do not obey, or trust Him. Or nation is already under God's judgement in that He's given us overt to our bankrupt desires to experience the dreadful consequences.
So our days are numbered, we are and will reap what we're sow. Socialism, communism, etc. will end up making it more miserable. Just imagine how pleasant it will be for corrupt elitists to control your life under their law and punishment. After all, they'll know what's best and it'll all be "for the good of the people". There will be nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. Either way, our country will die from the moral rot and decay that we're infested with.
Roxanne Conner not every job can be the "American dream"... especially a warehouse job
@@chris2790 Keep YOUR god in your pants and out of my government. Don't pray in my schools and I won't think in you church.
It’s an agenda to make every working slaves for the Top families, aka nwo
Chris you can’t claim someone’s religion as wrong... religion is about as open to interpretation topic as it comes. Just because someone doesn’t believe in the same way you do or practice in the same way... doesn’t make them wrong and certainly doesn't deserve criticism.
It’s not gaining popularity. As hard as this and other media try
I really hate other socdems calling themselves socialist when all they want is universal healthcare. We want Germany, not soviet union, get your terms right.