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- The left-leaning anti-fascist movement-or Antifa-has been around for decades, popping up in North America and Europe in response to rising white nationalist or fascist sentiments. Now, Antifa has made a resurgence in the US, where members clad in masks and nondescript black clothing physically confront groups of white supremacists and neo-Nazis who've started organizing in cities around the country.
Since the 2016 presidential election, Antifa has become a staple at alt-right and Trump-related rallies that often result in violence. VICE met up with a few Antifa activists in Philadelphia who engage in “Black Bloc” actions to find out more about their ideology, tactics, and individual reasons for participating in a high-risk form of activism.
00:00 Intro
03:00 "Street violence is the last resort for anti-fascists"
07:10 Police violence
10:20 When the Charlottesville rally turned deadly
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Since the 2016 presidential election, Antifa (short for "anti-fascist") has become a staple at right-wing rallies. The faceless, leaderless group stretches across North America and Europe -- and they aren't afraid to incite violence.
WATCH NEXT: Inside America’s Largest Right Wing Militia - bit.ly/2glqlan
the funny thing is that these people are fascists...
VICE
Hell this far-right militia sounds like a blast, I may join myself.
I think you are getting antifa mixed up with hypocrites
Fascists shutdown speak....DUMMY!that's what antifa does
Dressing up in black and beating up white people... Sounds like something a racist would do.
Gotta give respect to Vice for not disabling the comments.
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Enough is enough. Ahmaud Arbery was a black man shot dead while he was jogging. Antifa is the answer because countless peaceful protests lead to nowhere. Radical change for the good is better than radical groups supporting divisive, gun-wielding, largely low educated extremists. Forget Iraq and Iran, America hasn't even dealt with their homegrown extremists at their doorstep.
How low have the standards come?
Sad you had to say that
I saw the title of this video and just KNEW the comment section would be on fire
Their mascot should be the Possum, it acts fierce, tips over trash cans, gets hit by cars, plays dead, and is an all-around nuisance.
@@ra1der63 jajajajajaja
@@ra1der63 reminds me of Bill hicks bit about the hooligans in shaftsbreed
@@nayrtnartsipacify the fighting in the comment section puts the fighting of the two World Wars to shame
@@ra1der63 instead its the "jackass" which google defines as " a stupid person"
why are dislikes overtaking likes, this is actually good journalism for once
Because it's much more dire than you think. Laws are preset now to undermine the legistlative branch.
Because people see 'left' and get angry
Because Vice is trash lol
Because it makes leftist who actually watch vice realize that they are the fachist
@@CrimKing161 Or that the title of the video is already slanted in favour of one side.
8:17 how they slowly bring down the sign 😂😂😂
i just saw this lol
As soon as I saw the like/dislike ratio, I knew shit was going down in the comments.
That's because right wingers have no life/jobs and youtube is their only weapon. It's pathetic
Leon Oh the irony.
It's probably regular people disliking videos promoting our homegrown terrorists
Duchess ha, made me laugh
Leon lmao, ur funny
"Fear is a part of our tactics"
*tips over bin*
Julian Scales "why is the left trying to suppress our free speech?"
*Runs over protestors in a car*
Farmer Dave Who is censoring?
Patched 87 Corporations that are working with the government.
lmfao im dead
WithoutRemorse12 Welcome the capitalism
Here in Belgium they say they're extreme right, if the people don't like what the politicians decide they're immediately portrayed as "hard left" or "extreme right"
😂
So its not just America. From what I've seen it happens like that in England, France, Greece, and Germany. And i think recently Australia. Who did it first i wonder?
@MatthewPeter-bf2hc Here in Germany, hard lefts are becoming more and more normalised and sadly get less criticised by politicians and society since we have right wingers.
So if the AFD, a far right party, passes anti-trans legislation in a landtag or whatever then when people call them far right, that's just them "Not liking what the politicians decide" ???
@@passiplays What hard left? Die Linke has shot itself in the foot multiple times, and the current KPD is basically non-existent
True. Radical leftism is almost completely normalized in Germany
The Richard spencer punch was iconic lmaoooo
Yeah,it’s pretty much a staple in every bar brawl…..not so epic.
@@robmullin1128 still funny as hell
@@thesysop4998 nah it's lame af
@@Venus-cx5sy I respect your opinion
@@thesysop4998its assault and illegal and terrorism
Mad respect to the confused Asians watching the protest. 💯💛
😂 Yeah LOL
That was one of the bast parts of the video
@@philswift2.038 Haha, it totally was!
@@toykoserpent804 IKR!!!
@@Big_Footless IKR what you mean
The far left and far right are the minority on each side but they scream the loudest. This creates a false sense that the majority of peoples political opinions are on one side or the other. Most are in the middle leaning left or right on a number of different issues.
💯
Exactly!
Facts
The sad reality is that it isn’t so much that way in colleges, where (currently) young people are supposed to have the time of their lives.
I’m right in the middle, the people in the far on both sides need their own country I swear, they both make it hard to live in the USA. Both sides are so brainwashed and don’t have an opinion of their own. They are actually followers. You know it’s kinda funny they said they aren’t about violence but you always see them laying a hand on someone…. Violence usually isn’t the solution, but at least be honest that you are for violence and stop trying to make yourself feel better, own up to what you believe in and stand for. 🤷♀️
That thumbnail though... Like bro just wear a bandana 😂 looking out of the hoodie like
👁️👃⬛
At least they're honest and openly admit that they wear what they wear because that way if they assault somebody they cannot be identified.
listen to yourself dude
I was being half-sarcastic. It is terrible that they do it in the first place. I was trying to make a joke out of it. I hate this viewpoint and I don't want anybody to see it any other way.@@cosiney
Regardless of political beliefs these dudes are goddamn scumbags. Just pushing people around and using force and violence to spread their beliefs
Sorry but when you become a n@zi openly you give up your human rights
those Asian people looking confused at this protest was the funniest thing ive seen today
As an Asian myself, I find it hilarious when everyone in the world do the same thing.
Hongkong protest
Lol. I legit thought I was the only one that saw that
Time stamp?
Wii peaceful asiean
Looking for people arguing in the comments, all i found was people talking about everyone arguing in the comments😂
thats cause most of the internet is right wing, might i say nazis. hence the difference in comment sections between this one and the videos on nazis
Me to tbh 💀
@@polin1710 just becouse you are right wing doesnt means you are a nazi LOL
I disagree with you. Boom.
@@Ismael-kc3ry you thought you ate that huh
Queer, trans and Jewish? Oh alright understandable, bro is playing in max difficulty
It’s like that family guy episode “I’m a woman, I’m a horse, I’m a broom.”
💀
you mean easiest difficulty?
Hilarious that he thinks he’s a woman.
@@JohnDoe-bq5oo
Yeah, because it's so easy to be trans in this political climate.
Get a grip
My favorite part is when they talk about Philly, I wonder how Philly is doing today.. Ouuu not so good.
I respect that vice basically just gave us the info without any commentary. thats what the news should do.
Yeah cause they were probably terrified that someone from antifa would set fire to their HQ if they said something slightly biased
YUP, as a Right Wing gun owner, they did a fair job even with the 3% movement.
Except, I think that group in Georgia is pretty small, in fact.
They select the words and the order of the narrative
Attention.
The news outlets do this as well they just let their editors do the talking for them
@@RGRundeRGRound I just watched that one before this. Vice did a really good job of letting the people explain why they believe what they believe.
This is actually decent journalism because you let their own words paint the picture. Good job vice.
It may depend on if you agree with their idoelogy. If I use an equal standard, it was actually quite poor: didn't ask them obvious questions; got some facts wrong; didn't ask them challenging questions either. The Right in politics renounces their crazies (the Manipulative Media doesn't seem to report that). We on the Left are endorsing them. Is it any wonder Trump is winning? I'm not American, I'm Australian (by immigration), but that's what I see. Trump has exposed the hatred and racist double standards of my own group. And he deliberately whips it up, because that's how he wins (it worked each time, didn't it?).
They let their own words paint the lunacy, Jared.
But their own words are total bullshit. They project everything they do onto their enemies
@@pebblepod30 so trump praising David Duke is renouncing crazies?
Dude they tell journalism as it should be; the truth there not left leaning but the truth tends to be.
Aight, All we need now is a centrist militia, and things will be pretty balanced
YEA BABY YEAAAAAAA
Lets goooo!
They exist, but they can’t really find anything to bother assembling over. Everything is pretty much okay to them.
@@moomoo1984 Make everything great again.
I'm pretty sure the picture labeled "Germany 1943" is not Germany in 1943
So glad that everyone is having a nice, civil discussion in the comments.
Where's the freikorps when you need them!?
Black Lives Matter.
@@aceboog4546 damn, see a second ago I hated them but your comment really changed my mind. Thanks for making a massive difference in the world!!
@@aceboog4546 and when only one life matters, that life will remain and die alone.
@@donkeykongisbetterthanmari7495 it's called an endling. Too much responsibility for m.
*climbs over a wall with a opening 2 feet away
Can't make this up
Lol...I seen that also...So much for situational awareness....If you can't find a hole in the wall IRL....how can you claim you can find a hole in someone's thought...They are becoming the very thing they claim to hate...
Pretty sure there’s a gate there
That's pretty much a metaphor for what antifa is
I didn't realize the first 2 were both women. May God help us all. Thanks.
This is like an interview with a raider from Fallout
😂
Moe, curly, and larry. LMFAO
😭😭😭
Not Larry, Mary. They said they were a trans w*man
@@UNCIVILIZE what the hell are you talking about? You need medicine.
@@VeteranemoShe was making a joke.
They are confusing Nazis with juism/Marx/communism.
Yeah beat up that mail box, teach those fascists a lesson!
Damn racist mailboxes are everywhere!!
Hahaha now that's funny!
That mailbox is clearly doing a Nazi salute!
@@loooooopy lol
Mailbox Live Matter
Look everyone! They were wearing masks before it was cool
Masks were never cool!
SARCASM
@Coco Chanel cry about it
From Taiwan, did mask before Covid
Even though I disagree with them, the journalism is amazing, and I’m glad they did it for both sides.
You disagree with them? As in you're cool with nazis? Oh boy
@@mistrerjacknot supporting leftists doesn't mean you support Nazis
It kinda does though.
@@rawmixednuts3116 That’s pretty extremist, so you’re saying a moderate supports Nazism because they aren’t progressive?
@@rawmixednuts3116opinion
I thought antifa was an idea not anything else
They're domestic terrorists from what I can see. Their actions make that very clear
Using violence and coercion is a poor way of convincing people to follow your cause
@@noxplay4906worked for me
Antifa has no internal structure
@@noxplay4906
Hahahhaha!!!!
Whats your opinion on every war going in right now ????
in the mid 1960's I was watching the news with my dad....they were showing footage of a KKK march somewhere down south and being from CT, something I had never seen before. I asked my dad why the people were wearing hats with masks and he said, "because they are cowards." I have never forgotten that.
wendyw I wonder if the people who liked this comment knew that you were referring to Antifa as the undertone?
one would hope so.................
The KKK was a democrat group, still is
People who charge into police baricades while at the same time assaulting Nazi groups violently for what they believe in, are cowards? Nice conservatard logic there, insectoid filth.
Lmao they publicly said they support trump who's not democratic
Those two confused Asian guys had me rolling 😭 2:54
I am going to be honest this is at 69 likes so I can't like it I am sorry
Im dead bruh 😂
@Soldat ᚦᚬᚩᛅᛄᚢᚠᚻᛈᛉᛋᛏᛒᛖᛗᛠᛢᛣᛥᚸ they cant. they just dont speak up or move overseas
@@user-gu1hl2kx2k that’s a childish description of what China is. It’s definitely tucked up in a lot of ways but the political repression is not as bad as the states make it seem.
@@coldcoffee1506 Would you like to tell that to a Uyghur, or to any of the journalists that have been critical of the CCP???
So how does this compare now? It goes both ways
Can’t blame oppression if you’re going to play the criminal
That geek getting punched while talking about Pepe never fails to make me laugh
timestamp?
@@thesk9704 8:45
@Mer Der no because they're not literal Nazis
@Mer Der I've yet to see someone who calls themselves antifa call for a white ethno state
A leaf, who woulda guessed.
A lot of people get confused about the term fascism. The term was originally to explain the Mussolini way of authoritarian government. Centralized state power and ultra nationalism.
they're fighting something that doesn't exist, it's quite funny seeing them say they are fighting an authoritarian government that oppresses them but they antifa grows in numbers and has 0 censorship.
Fascism comes from the fasces, socialist organization very near to this crackheads ideologies, then mussolini refounded the organizaion into the Partito Nazional Fascista
@@Devin7Eleven It may originate from that, but when most people think about it they think militarist, nationalist, violent, and anti-democratic.
@@Devin7Eleven man listen..... there is another point here that you are forgetting.... most important one in fascism..... that you people think your community is above all...... stop calling em cowards when you are too afraid to acknowledge what you stand for........
@@Devin7Eleven go back to school
I lean to wards the left but no mater what side extreme is bad right or left.
nah, the center is the worst
the left should be one big coalition until after the revolution
@@fastgames_pvp7705what lol
Some of the contents may not be proper.
“So much for the ‘tolerant’ left” - Mussolini’s last words, translated
Lmao, they don't claim to be tolerant. Liberals are the tolerant left
They’re just flat out cowards hiding behind masks. If you stand for what you believe in why hide your face?????
@@RenzoM2811 classical liberals maybe. Not today's average liberal.
Mussolini was as worst as Stalin.
Both were mass murderers.
@@prometheus5405 Stalin was way worse.
Anarchists in Greece are in another level.This is nothing compared to Greece's anarchists.
True wimps...🔥🔥🔥
Why are you not speaking out about Scumas?????
If i had a dollar for every time he said "Nazi" i would have enough money to move to the usa
Why on earth would you want to move to that godforsaken place
@@thomaschristou1075 coming from an American, I ask the same thing. this place is a hellhole. i wish i could leave.
@Johan Liebert I doubt it. Probably used to be the case 50 years ago but not anymore
@Johan Liebert the American middle class might be richer than the Nowegian middle class, but at least you won't find Norwegians having to choose between medical care and paying their rent
@Johan Liebert It amazes me that the country with the most billionaires in the world can also pass as a 3rd world country at times. And the fact that people living there are okay with it is bewildering.
“We don’t like violence”, 30 seconds later, “If we punch fascists in the face, they won’t appear in public”
ryan steele also "we're not regular protesters we achieve things through violence" and later "the police are the violent ones" thought they usually go to protests and stab people, beat them up and even light them on fire but yeah... Cops are way more violent with their pepersprays
ryan steele I think what they were trying to say that they do not prefer violence, but sometimes it is necessary. Not saying I support or oppose them, just an interpretation
Theres a difference between liking something and doing something you feel you need to do. If you think the guy got a boner after punching the guy you're porbably right but that is an assumption unless you see the bulge 100%
Ryan steele
It's useless to quote that and put it outside of their context, they have well explained how they are looking at the situation.
There are many people, greeks philosopher, painter, writter, and they all were against war but if the painting and the music and the philosophal thing have been able to be that evolved, that peaceful and now they are against all form of violence it was only because at one certain point their countries were dominant and heavyli armed. Their peaceful will have seen the day "because of wars" / "thanks to wars".
That is not a nonsense, if someone try to lead and grow by being aggressive, violent, making people around being scary, and if the government do nothing against them then the only possible option might be the violence, may you hate it or love it, it might be the only possible option to stop that.
So yes, you can be violent and sometimes you could even NEED to be violent in order to live in peace and that, even if you hate violence.
lol, but they don't need to be violent. What they are doing is the opposite of what anyone needs. These people are ignorant and dangerous. To give any type of justification for their actions is absolute ludicrous
Fighting fire with fire just makes more fire
nonsense little jester
It still amazes me that these people turn up to events wearing jackboots, covering their faces, carrying weapons, and attacking unarmed people and still consider themselves antifascists
they’re unwitting stooges for corporate interests and they don’t even realize it
They only do that because they know their opponents won't retaliate.
"Communist" doesn't sound as palatable as "ANTI FASCIST" lol...
Absolutely delusional. Violence and fascism are not the same thing. You can fight fascism with violence. Antifa are the only people brave enough to resist fascism.
I dunno. I live in France. We got Black Bloc here too but they just break and burn sh*t whenever there's like a march or something. It's just hard for normal non political people to understand or support violent groups. Burnt cars and broken store fronts don't help anyone.
You're not "non political", you just side with the status quo
@@gaita3827 I can't tell if this is a joke or not.
This is how all black bloc groups are - they are the folks who come in to wreck stuff and start riots. They will make peaceful protest violent - no political ties at all they just want to cause chaos. This documentary did very poorly in showing what they actually are because this one small group co-opted it. Often times they are agent provocateurs hired by police - they were caught out in a G8 summit protest once - one of them was an on duty officer to start riots because a riot will turn the attention away from what the protest was about and the news will then focus on the riot.
You can be ideologically opposed to it, but to deny that violence and property damage can bring about change is to ignore history
I don’t think you are talking about blac bloc it sounds like you are talking about the looters that slither into protests to loot local businesses
Within literally the first five seconds, "Fear is part of our tactics." This is the definition of terrorism.
They dont give a shit, they accomplish their objectives. Fascists are scared to come out.
Unfortunately, the numbers just aren't there. There have been a few big events by "white supremacists" or however you would like to categorize them though, and they've been largely successful. The meme war is being won though, lol
>Largely succesful
>Unite the right 2 has 12 participants
>2000 counterprotesters
hmm
@@vwem1237 They're not fascists though. The people you fight largely don't exist and are very few in number. Antifa is going around attacking moderate conservatives, libertarians, classical liberals, etc.
@Ryan Dulac what? Trump isnt a fascist. To advocate the hurting of someone for political gain or political opinion is no better than such an ideology. PLEASE stop living in a terrible mindset. If you have a discord I'd love to talk to you.
Maybe if you guys wouldn’t burn cars and knock over mailbox’s you wouldn’t come home with bruises and cuts
I would like to ask these anti-fascist people if they have read Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels
2:54
Has HongKong flashback.
Haha 😂
chris someone 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@ryanmuro 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Oof
Hahahahaha
I'm really glad you attacked that Newspaper box, it was really pissing me off and looked like a troublemaker.
Yeah that bin is a symbol of oppression ir some sht 😆
Yeah
It was in the Confederate army once
it was cuz the pig was chasing
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wanna interview the people at these protest and see if they even know what the definition of fascism is.
Side note you shouldn’t be allowed to vote unless you understand basic us history. Those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it. And these Antifa protest look a lot like the beer hall putsch.
@@dailytriggeredWell, there goes the entire voting base.
Or if any of these anti racism warriors are actually black!
Not okay
7:28 synchronized baton unsheating
Well they're trained professionals after all
Great observation enjoyed that. I saw it the first time but it didnt register. They won the fear fight at 7:28
imagine being a cop and you pull out your baton and the protesters just pull out their own baton
The cops are badass
@@dismasdillon1514 yeah, b/c beating up unarmed people is badass.
There is a lot of talking in the comments, but to be honest, i think its good that Vice lets both extremes talk, unfiltered. Something TV-news cant
Except for the fact that when they represent the alt right they bring up stuff that doesn't even exist and call us Nazis but when they talk about the fascist left they allow them to go around lying about the definition of fascism which is literally people who try and stop others from talking and spreading their points of view
I think what shocks me the most is that being against racism and ethnic cleansing makes you an extremist
@@sarahjeannexd no, being against racism and ethnic cleansing doesn't make you an extremist. But indiscriminately assaulting and terrorizing people definitely does.
@@sarahjeannexd I think maybe they say extremist because the bloc are probably one of the left most groups/loose organizations in the US, hence they are the extreme
@@sarahjeannexd maybe not extreme…just a bunch of crybabies.
Can you not see the irony of them being ‘anti fascist’ yet they try and silence the opposing point of view…which is exactly what fascism.
These are the most intolerant people in earth, trained Marxist losers with no futures, so they go and wreck innocent peoples businesses and property…you are NOT on the proper side of ‘good v evil’ here.
This movement is evil, so is BLM
So that’s how r/anarchism users look like…
*Grabs police bike*
“Why are they hitting me?”
Alexander McDaneld haha, didn’t even realize
'Xactly. Notice how they speak of things only on the surface, saying Trump is a fascist, with no deep explaination. The say the police are violent, without proving Antifa was not the first to resort to violence. They say violent means are a last resort, thus admitting they are willing to be violent, while they are left-wing, who claims to be against violence. Antifa says early on, a lot of people are in danger, without clarifying what group(s) of people are endangered. I'll tell you who are indanger, Antifa, the people who are not muslim invaders. Not the invaders, as you think. The left do not even know what fascism, nazism, tollerence, or help is,thinking help is not pushing others on, but taking over the troubles of others, solving things for them entirely, thus not helping others in the longer run. But hey, the fact that the left thinks only short-term is no new thing. Why does this make me thing of the 2007-movie, Hot Fuzz? Hmmm...
Law exist
Antifa extremist breaks the law and gets arrested
Every leftist 😲
:D :D D :D D :D D :D D :D D :D D :D D :D
I hope every cop you ever met dies
"Fear is part of our tactics..."
Um, that's terrorism, brah. By any definition.
Fr
It's literally in the name TERRORism
It's also used by the government.. brah.
simp
@@dadafish1 nah g
@@j.cun777 Do as your told or else, is that familiar to you?
Terrorism is when a Government imposes fear on its people, not just any random joe or a bunch of kids wearing hoodies and masks. 1795, in specific sense of "government intimidation during the Reign of Terror in France" (March 1793-July 1794)
As a racist I feel offended
Same lol
same
Looks like a riot.
Rioters who pretend that their destructive behavior creates any positive change for their community. Based on what I've seen they're just destabilizing the political climate and inspiring people to hate each other. Regardless of your political beliefs, that is a big no-no
it is
@@Okfairenough ok fair enough.
ok fair enough@@imaxcrepin0001
*Tries to steal Police bike and gets beaten up* "The cops hate us... lol
DK Tech 😂
I have never seen a black antifa member
In all my time in Kami's Legion
LOL...police are the meanies
Rex Noaker How do you get the little black kids to stop jumping on the bed? Put Velcro on the ceiling. How do you get them down? Tell the Mexican kids it's a piñata.
Or you know... Ever heard of something called satire and relativation? Look it up. Also look up freedom of speech, political correctness has no place in this worlds society. It keeps politics away from discussing some important problems for example immigration and refugees, because they are afraid of being labelled a nazi by these extreme leftists.
I'm not right nor left, I'm a realist.
I love how he says we don't want them to hurt us, find our houses, disrupt our lives or jobs but quite literally say that's what that want to do
yeah, to literal nazis
@@wipeEU who cares about what they think? Are we policing peoples thoughts now? I don’t agree with nazis but they can have their own shitty opinions. It doesn’t matter in the end.
@@wipeEU Ok? You know what Nazis do, right? Attack people and ruin them based on political stance. You're no better then the people you claim to hate.
@@1035Ghuraba what do you mean nazis having nazi opinions ‘doesn’t matter in the end’??? it fucking mattered in 1930s Germany and don’t think it can’t happen again. every decent person has a responsibility to stand against fascists because we know what happens if we don’t
@@wipeEU Nazi= Anyone that has a different opinion
What is the first rule of the fight club?
Who ever spots a NAZI needs to box him.
Ey boy, do you want to box a Nazi?
Eh yes, yes why not.
*Boom boy flys to the ground boxed down by the kangaroo with the red boxing gloves
Wrong, YOU NEED TO BOX HIM!!!
NZS
BXN
I wonder if they can take the same violence they hand out though🤔
Not a chance!
No they literally get beat up by random people in countries outside of America lmfao. People are done with their bullcrap
Why can't they google what facism is
John D why can't you?
Phoenix Chastaine because he’s right, using physical violence as a means to force your opposition to conform and hide it is exactly what fascism is defined as. I’m not talking about the government form of fascism, I’m talking about the political and social use of the word Fascism.
NO. It's not. 'It's a governmental system led by a dictator(trump would like to)
There are two definitions for Fascism, do your research before you try to argue with people! Fascism
[fash-iz-uh m] - a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, "(forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism)", regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism. Notice the part in parenthesis, that is what i was referring to in the former comment.
im a "commie" myself and i dont believe in any form of anarchy, but i do share some believings and i dont think they are that bad, except if you find an ignorant group of violent people.
The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascist.
-Winston Churchill
fake quote
MasterMarcon go suck off the try guys
paleofuture.gizmodo.com/9-quotes-from-winston-churchill-that-are-totally-fake-1790585636
He's right though.
The quote's real, just has the wrong name on it. Huey Long, a Democratic populist politician said it. So, quote's not fake, just misattributed. And the quote is extremely true.
FredrickTesla
Beat me to it. I do find it hilarious that these leftists will ONLY go so far as to prove Churchill didn't say that, but before calling it fake, they don't bother to check if someone actually *did* say it.
Starting fires and vandalism isn’t fighting anything you’re just making everyone hate you
7:58 ain’t no way he thinks antifa is a non violent organization. everywhere they go there’s always violence perpetrated by them🤣🤣🤣
"We're against big oppressive government" waves the hammer and sickle
jorge hernandez The ultimate goal of socialism is to establish an anarchist society. Read a book, you buffoon.
Just Different because anarchy works, read a book buffoon.
Alien It actually does. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Catalonia
Not only that, but I am just responding to his moronic comment, I wasn't trying to say anarchism works.
couldn;t agree more
Communism & authoritarianism is different. Oh and it’s not even what Marxist is and the rest of the variations. Go read.
Almost 5 years later and looking back retrospectively these people accomplished absolutely nothing
If anything they made the right stronger lol
They’re goal is to abolish all hierarchy.
They've increased polarization. That's an accomplishment as it sets the scene for the physical divisions and unrest to come. (Most of) Urban America is becoming increasingly leftist and liberal, meanwhile (most of) Rural America is becoming increasingly rightist and conservative. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
2020 should have been a red-flag, not the protests, but the riots that followed them had a far larger spread domestically (and internationally) than in '68 and '92, as the white population continues to decline and minorities make up a larger proportion of Americans. Whites themselves are posed to become a minority by 2045, and given their declining birth rates, this projection is quite likely.
Both, the far-left and far-right have become more popular thanks to their rapid spread online, and both appear to be calling their supporters to arms, but for now, only a minority have done so. Thankfully, at the moment, it's mostly just a bunch of foolish adolescents who have nothing better to do, and are just looking for a life purpose even if its petty violence. But once the new generation of political extremists in America matures and grows up, only to be more radical than the last, it's bound to get worse from there on-wards.
@@julianG1212 yes, they want to abolish hierarchy, because they are at the bottom.
They were tired of holding Signs and amounting toi nothing so they Still do the same thing with the addition of being violents
how are you different than the brown shirts
Because we stop the brown shirts?
Because we organize on a local and syndical, not national level?
Because we actually believe in a better world for all?
@@rbxlessYou think the people you describe as Fascists don't think the same thing? You think in their eyes they aren't fighting for a better world too? The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
@@tinman3586 Last time I checked, fascists don't fight other fascists. Nor do they believe in a better world for all, only for their own race.
Not knowing that they are one in the same. "one wing each of the same exact bird!" For this I pray.
So workers owning their factories and killing people because of the colour of their skin are the same thing???
Ah yes - "Facists and Anti-Facists are the same thing, I am very smart".
How are they the same thing?
Because a Facist is, well a Facist in the traditional definition and an Anti-Facist is basically a Facist on crack. So different wings, same bird. Only they think they are soooo different but in reality they are pretty much the exact same. Menacing, destructive, oppressive, mentally unstable and actually in charge of NOTHING!!!!!@@dehistoriapisciumfish7639
@@dom_the3166They are violent and censoring the same way.
except they aren't just attacking nazis and the KKK. They are actively trying to silence anything that doesn't follow far left thinking. They simply label anything they don't like a "fascist" and go after them.
I find many different flaws with their ideology because they contradict themselves. They stated at the beginning that they break laws and dress the same so the can’t be identified. They also refuse to let any party besides theirs to peacefully protest and assemble.
Perla Guzman you live in delusion, i can tell you in no uncertain terms that fascism will never rise again in europe or north america, their ideas are so wildly unpopular and they would never be elected into places of power (no, trump is not a fascist) . antifa has again and again targeted innocent individuals who are not fascist nor could be lichened to anything of the sort. the campaigns of doxxing, harassment, threats of violence and real violence conducted by various antifa groups is completely unacceptable and has no place in society regardless of who it is directed towards. what many members of antifa seem to completely miss is that they subscribe to an ideology that is just as disgusting, authoritarian and dangerous to society as any far right fascist, nazi, or white supremacist. radicals and revolutionaries are tyrants in their own right, they do not respect personal liberties and they commit acts of violence against "enablers" (who are simply average working joes trying to live their life) and any and all who do not want to be a part of their revolution. nobody has the right to commit violence against people who are simply exercising their freedom of speech, and yet antifa believes it does. it's disgusting. finally antifa and other anarchist/communist movements are completely misguided, liberal capitalist democracy has done more good things for humanity than any other system and this is undeniable. liberal society has lifted humans beyond our primeval nature to become something truely amazing. communism is a failed ideology it cannot and will not work, nor will it be accepted in the mainstream. if revolutionaries start a war, it will end, but they won't be the ones on top.
Tinzin Then you weren’t paying attention to your history lectures. “Fascism will come to America clothed in the flag carrying a cross.”
Modern fascists deny that they are fascist, both to themselves and the public. They call themselves “classical liberals,” “white nationalists,” and “national socialists.” They appeal to the working white man, because they give him someone to blame for his troubles. They will get the centrists one day too unless we stop them.
Sounds pretty fascist too me
Carl Grimes's Eyepatch id rather you not take the centrists either, i want them to stay right where they are. far leftist movements, marxism, communism, and socialism are just as toxic and disgusting as fascists. all these extreme ideologies are equally abhorrent for the simple reason that they reject the idea of natural unalienable rights and individualism. the fact that you believe classical liberals are fascists further cements my distain for radicals. i love freedom, i hate tyranny, and friend, tyranny is what you're suggesting we accept.
why do they all sound like they are about to cry?
First, because they are fully involved in what they do, emotionally and psychologically, and they feel true passion regarding their purpose.
Second, they must feel deep sorrow, given that their role as Antifa has a very tragic side to it; they go through constant fear, violence, hatred, rejection and solitude, which may seem unjust given that they are fighting for a legit good cause: against fascism. I am sure all that is very hard to deal with.
@Andrew Christopher Fascism is the arbitrary use of violence against peaceful individuals based on motives of nationality and race. Antifa is a movement against that. So, what's wrong with it?
You are based on a fallacy of generalization. You are assuming that all people involved in Antifa are the same. But chances and probability are against you. People's characteristics and attributes can be combined endlessly. There are all sorts of people. But the only thing they all share for sure, is their rejection towards fascism.
Fascism is hell, man; that is a fact. It is violence and blood. So it is understandable when people get violent against those who promote fascism. Wouldn't you get mad at a bunch of people on the street promoting pedophilia?
Sorry you don't get to promote fascism in a peaceful way? Of course not, you don't get to promote violence in a peaceful way.
Antifa is the reaction from people against fascist propaganda. People fighting that fight, even though they make mistakes, deserve respect and support.
Fragility
@@vagabaassassina3461 you and Andrew are both wrong, but Andrew at least has a sense of humor, you're just making a threat. Which is ironically unprotected speech. Still feel like you're on the right side of history? You shouldn't, degenerate.
@@jabibgalt5551 Antifa and anyone else using violence in any way towards any goal should rot in prison. This is a democracy, you don't get to bitch and whine and throw a fit when the government is in a rightward swing. That's antidemocratic, and wrong. Most of all it's childish. That doesn't even mention the fact that they're diametrically opposed to free speech, which is terrible and reprehensible on its own. Once you get your head out of your ass and stop calling everyone you disagree with a nazi so you feel ok about punching them; Take a look at this objectively and you'll see there's a whole lot wrong with it. Just to clarify, anyone on the other side using violence is just as bad. But antics is worse because they have such a cunty and smug attitude about it, it pisses me off, they show no remorse for being terrible people. Truly slimy and disgusting.
This is exactly why I liked vice years ago, they can show both sides. We need our conservative and liberal medias to show these things and not just cherry pick the ones they think will help their agenda.. It's scary how both sides have these extreme activists but their side of the media won't talk about it to help calm the tensions we have right now.
Government is doing extreme things which you just ignore
$30 trillion given to wallst, $1 trillion given to military, job outsourcing to poor countries with stagnant wages and Destruction of communities & family isn’t? Make someone else drink that cool-aid
No they don't 🤣 they cherry pick the most angelic of what they support and the worst of what they claim is thier opposition giving your the illusion your making your own opinion on the matter. Humans have documented and been perfecting the art of controlling humans for over 4000 years.
Yeah agreed we need more reliable media now days. I'm politically moderate and i think both parties are becoming waaay to extreme.
I agree and disagree with both parties . You have to look at around at different sources of media you can't just find a reliable one.
@@jamesomalley5247In what way are the Democrats at all extreme? They're centre left at a push, probably centre right by most European standards. Neo-liberalism is not leftism.
I find it so funny how these extremists act like they are so different from the far right while using the same violent tactics
10:08 who responds to a church getting shot up? Police that’s right but we hate them right ? Gotcha gotcha
Nazis: Came to power by beating the shit out of anyone who disagrees with their political views
Antifa: Beating the shit out of anyone who disagrees with their political views
Hmmm wonder where this is going
Augusto Pinochet and it will happen again if these neocons/liberal doesnt learn history
Vice are dangerous far left propagandists who WE (conservatives, independents, left leaning, whatever) have to get rid of before it's too late. It is frightening and sad to see what power and influence the neo Stalinists have across the west. You'd think those people would be something to laugh at whenever they gather but they're running nations and even making EXPERIMENTS like globalization! It is AMAZING what is happening.
Mitch Woody
That's because Nazi Germany were violent like your antifa. lol
That is why people used violence against nazi Germany. To defend themselves and to defend those who were oppressed. So if anything it's your ANTIFA that we need to fight and punch and kick.
As for the Soviets, they were some of the most brutal, murderous and oppressive regime in history. I'd be ashamed of myself to sympathize with them.
Yeah uh Nazis came to power via the vote of the German people after the main candidate stepped down from office so
FriendlyCrooc Violence doesn’t solve anything. People who have nothing to hide -hide nothing. They talk in the video about having to hide for fear of being harassed (people finding out their address, being harassed at work or boss’ contacted) and/or terrorized by the other side and out of the other side of their mouth speak of how they harass and call peoples work etc. If you listen to this video you can hear the same verbiage from this group as you hear from neo-nazi, fear and power. They are exactly the same just on opposite spectrums - there is a happy middle ground here both have the right to speak their opinion but are both jaded in their own politics.
4chan be like "ALRIGHT EVERYBODY, PAY ATTENTION TO THEIR EYES, VOICES, AND GAIT! WE CAN TRACK THESE GUYS DOWN AND DOX THEM!"
They will too haha
They have an entire database on ANTIFA members
Well when you are bashing people in the head, who are just trying to keep the peace, with a bike lock you should be doxed and arrested.
@@x-x-xx-cfdsde5444 We still have far more right win terrorism in the US. Look it up.
Acurssed I doubt that unless you count terrorist acts perpetrated by left wing countries (which is probably nothing compared to all the other neoliberal countries in the world)
Why does VICE portray Black Bloc like some Anti-Heros while always bashing anything that's barely conservative. That's some great Journalism.
"Journalism is the practice of gathering, recording, verifying, and reporting on information of public importance." i hope that clears it out for ya :)
all they showed you was what black bloc members said. another demonstration of the infamous left-wing bias of reality
@vice which demonstration are you showing at 2.00. in germany 1943 was only one demonstration- which was the demo at rosenthaler straße. But this one was from 90% women and the picture you show just has men in it, so it cant be this one.
When you go to fight monsters, be careful that you don’t become a monster yourself
This is wisdom
I dont get it I've never seen a nazi are they like leprechauns?
@@beatbox9985 there rare but they do exist I’ve seen one in my life time in irl
@@beatbox9985 to be honest I’ve never seen a confirmed antifa member irl but I do support your point. I avoid protests at all costs and where I originally grew up was super rural so I never saw one. But I have seen radical leftists.
@@bmitch5741 living in Toronto I’ve seen both, skinheads and neo-nazis hang around the skate parks with doc martens and SS tattoos included as well as you’ll see antifa and very hard left leaning people wearing all black with batons in their pants. Skirmishes are very rare though and most individuals on both sides are all bark and no bite
This is scary, as a fairly left individual, I hate to see that this is what people think of when they hear about the left. Punching anyone isn't okay no matter what they believe. Never throw the first punch. It's okay if it's self defense, but by going on the offensive you've already lost.
MΞARE As a hardcore Conservative I may disagree with you about, well.....pretty much everything. But I truly respect you as an individual for supporting other Peoples right to speak even if you do disagree with them.
MΞARE Agreed no matter your thoughts, no need to start a fight.
Spencer Savage people should be able to believe what they believe and speak about it without worrying about being assaulted
It's ridiculous that some people think that violence will support their arguments
MΞARE Well said, man. I am disgusted by anyone of any political or religious belief system that would seek to impose their ideology on others.
Gas station workers do be gettin crazy.
Another reason for the 2nd amendment.
amen. These kids are only play fighting. I seriously doubt more than 5% of them know what a real war is like. keep it up, and they will find out, sadly.
Exactly. I always conceal carry when I attend black block rallies. If the n@zis and pigs are armed, we must be as well!
so much irony and hypocrisy in one video.
lmao VICE is basically the hardleft themselves
NeostormXLMAX You might want to look up who Gavin McInnes is.
A_Transposition_Error gavin left vice BECAUSE it was going hard left.
They don't advocate the use of violence guys... oh ... or wait they do advocate the use of violence. Or is it that they just don't advocate someone else using violence on them because it hurts their feelings? Nonetheless it's not like they hide behind a mask like a terrorist does...no wait.. I was just informed they do in fact wear masks by the man child..I mean She-man child ..no I mean something that is about something else.
But seriously what the hell do they actually want to accomplish?
Extremists are Extremists, doesn't matter if you're far-left or far-right.
Shreyance Parakh it does if only one side is killing people
Both sides kill.... It's called extremism for a reason. lol
America's far left and far right aren't the only extremist in the world.
ObstructedDelusions I doubt you can name one example
lol Are you testing me? You should know that extremism can be born in any country at any given time in it's existence, whether through religious means or political.
here's some examples.
www.counterextremism.com/countries
Almost a march
I wonder what they think of churchill
He’s a great barber all my haircuts from him wear great
Lots of tough talk from people that won't even show their faces out of fear of someone using their own brand of terrorist tactics against them
EZLN hid their faces and look at how they helped the Indigenous people of Mexico.
Brian 1012000 Except Antifa isnt helping anyone except themselves. They attack anyone who disagrees with them, white black or Asian doesn't matter.
They all seem to skinny-fat, out of shape, transies and pansies. How on earth do they think they'll ever have their communist 'revolution' ? Useful idiots.
I think it’s more that the cops can find out who they are go to there house and arrest them
I'm ok with people beating a Nazi with a 2x4 while wearing a mask since it's a Nazi. Nothing wrong with using tactics that work
*brings weapons to riot* “police are the most violent people at marches we don’t like violence”
Nick_battags Police come armed to libraries lmao
You don’t have a problem with right wingers marching with assault rifles?
@@bigdickmcgee3293 yeah and terrorist use weapons down the street. But this video isn't about terrorist, neither is it about the extreme right. Every group which carries weapons into the street for delusional political reasons, looking for trouble are bad news in my book.
@@TheAdekrijger dirty centrist
Brings acid bottle spray, cries about getting hit
Lenin would be so proud
notice the difference in the names, "far-right" and "hard left"
This guy says I’ve gone home with bruises some went home with broken arms well what did you expect u were blocking the road did u want goodie bag
21M Views lmaoo exactly
No, but he's trying to demonstrate that the police aren't fucking angels when it comes do dealing with conflict, so we shouldn't be either. Blocking the street is a pretty effective way to be heard.
Yet fascists are allowed to escape unharmed.
the banana It's disruptive and can cause problems. Like say if an ambulance is rushing someone to the ER that needs surgery stat and if they're late they die. That's all on Antifa
+prkle200 I mean the streets they're blocking are usually cleared anyway since they're along the marching routes of the Alt-Right groups Antifa is protesting. Blocking a trafficked thoroughfare is amoral and disruptive unless you've already worked with law enforcement to ensure a route through, but blocking a side road that's already closed is not an issue. Also I'm sure most members of Antifa would get out of the way stat if an ambulance needed to get through.
It's a fascinating social and cultural dynamic, the epitome of modern political dysfunction.
It's very interesting hearing the perspective of both the hard right and the hard left. I would never really support either group, but hearing both sides speak their own without a filter really expands on my worldview. Thank you for bringing that to us, Vice.
Same I find it fascinating how people view the world now I would never be willing to fully defend far right or far left politics but it’s fascinating just watching what they say and do
@@senkobread2208 I feel like the far right and left have more in common than they actually think. They have the same flavor of ideas and energy and they use the same kinds of tactics to enforce their ideas on the larger majority of people that are really just in the middle.
Exactly, it's very interesting. For me it ends when the violence starts, at the end all these types of extremism comes down to oppressing the other side.
@@TheWitchKing456 To be frank, as is human nature and history, one can not assume the goal is to oppress. Oppression, in that sense, is merely an excuse, a tool and a medium. The goal of authoritarianism, both for the right and for the left, is to make their leaders powerful, wealthy people.
@@opforjr4784 “the far left” and “the far right” are very diverse concepts. There are some on the far left like stalinists who would share a lot of authoritarian ideas with neo-nazis, but others on the far left such as anarcho-communists would be completely against any nazi ideology. Some on the far left and right share ideas but many on the far left and right couldn’t be more opposed to each other. In actuality viewing politics as left or right leaves out a lot of nuance that is very important to understand the views a person has.
I respect black bloc, but why we don't see you again in Quebec ? Where are you ?
the high volume of soy fogged up my screen
Why so many dislikes? Vice did a great job with this.
I know everyone hates ANTIFA, but I'm not sure why the video reporting on them has many dislikes. I'm not clear if there's much of a bias or not.
Watch the hoaxed documentary th-cam.com/video/bkogF9XD4QM/w-d-xo.html
All the dislikes are from people who hate antifa, which I totally understand
Haha somebody's not fully aware 😂
@@austinhealey1120 i dont like them becouse communism and anachy is bad
"Don't want them finding out who we are, tracking us back to our home" Literally does the same to them lmao
There’s a difference between fascism and anti-fascism
@@max-eq3qo There is a difference between calling yourself 'antifascist' and being an anti fascist
I mean, they did straight up say they use fear tactics. I'm sure they're aware of the hypocrisy, but when it comes to two extremist and opposed ideologies clashing, I doubt either side cares how they succeed
Fascists: I want minorities to die and expand this ideology
Antifa: no... (contacts their boss)
You: well THATS hypocritical!!!
@@dice_8650 fear tactics against who?
Learn from Gonzalo Thought. Salutes from Brazil.
Yes family!
Nothing says “anti-fascism” like silencing speech. Am I right? *What has this world come to...*
The Irony. They are clearly delusional.
to be fair, yelling over people isn't exactly impeding on free speech. they are likewise exercising their right to free speech as well. as far as i'm aware there isn't any clause on the volume that free speech can take place or the location.
Did you see the fire bombs they were carrying? This isn't just silencing speech. This is a riot.
don't disagree with that at all
Be quiet. We have the right to not hear you.