What’s Next For Tesla Superchargers After Elon Musk Laid Off The Entire Team
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- Tesla’s Supercharging network is the largest fast charging network in North America, and it’s often cited as the EV maker’s biggest competitive advantage. That network is valuable too, with analysts estimating that Tesla could own $7.4 billion of the public charging market by 2030. But in a surprise move, Elon Musk let go of Tesla’s entire Supercharging team, laying off about 500 people, including top executives. Now its future is in question. CNBC explores what’s next for Tesla’s Supercharger network.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
3:52 Ch 1 Rise of Tesla's Superchargers
7:49 Ch 2 Business of charging
10:56 Ch 3 Opening up the network
14:44 Ch 4 Supercharging dismantled
18:15 Ch 5 What's next
Produced, Shot and Edited By: Andrew Evers
Additional Reporting: Lora Kolodny
Supervising Producer: Jeniece Pettitt
Additional Production: Lisa Setyon, Katie Koontz, Evan Miller
Animation: Jason Reginato
Narration: Rob Ferris
Additional Footage: Tesla, Getty Images, Ford, Rivian
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What’s Next For Tesla Superchargers After Elon Musk Laid Off The Entire Team
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this is actually a good thing those engineers and employees can go off with their knowledge and experience. build for someone else.
Exactly
That's still gonna hurt current EVs in the meantime.
@@KariIzumi1 No, just Tesla. Making EV’s a luxury is whats hurting EV’s.
China 😏
“I think Elon just needs to take a break” 😂 well said sir
The irony of this is stupendous.
*drives an EV*
“HERR DERR ELON NEEDS TO TAKE A BREAK!!!1”
DERP
@@Restorationshopyt incorrect use of the word ironic. Wishing Elon would “take a break” has nothing to do with driving an ev or even a Tesla. They’re great cars. This is a simple statement pointing out the obvious that Elon is losing his way a bit and needs to “take a break”
As a new Model 3 owner, the dismantling of the Supercharger division makes me very anxious. If this had happened two months ago I wouldn't have bought a Tesla. Now I just have to wait for the dust to settle and hope for the best.
It's time for Elon to hand over the reigns of Tesla to the adults.
lol RIP
Don’t worry. He’s playing 3D chess whilst everyone else is playing tic tac toe.
BYD Seagull EV is retailing for $9,700 brand new and it's being made in Mexico. Tesla can't compete with that price and basically Musk is moving on from EV's.
@@noneshere those chinese cars are junk. Take a look at what chinese netizens are saying about some of them.
Tesla will keept adding superchargesr to their network, and the most used location will have added stations. Places with less usage will be closed and the site will be for sale to other charging companies. The other will be up very fast since permits and electrical conections are present. It is just a way to make the network more efficient.
They had one of the most talented person running Tesla Supercharger and the beating heart of electric car.... kind of shows companies don't care how well you perform. You could just get cut off at any time.
I have seen this many times with different corporations and would never work for one:)
Two graduates from my lab worked with Tesla. Both of them left in just a few years, and there were very smart people too. Other graduates from my research lab who went to other companies do not quit so quickly. This seems to be a pattern.
Well yeah…it’s not about talent. It’s about $$
The supervisor did not reduced its work force by 10%. So he was fired, with all reporting to him. Now All different manager will comply reducing the work force by 10%. Tesla will get a new tweam very soom (smalles by 20% maybe, so it can grow. with time.
Darn capitalism! Anyway…they will have no trouble getting a job.
And Tesla is rehiring the exact team it laid off. Comedy gold.
Wait really? Lmao
@odanepalmer3082 Check out Bloomberg article. It was posted few hours ago.
@@odanepalmer3082 Key people are rehired. However, this was intended as a message. She refused to follow orders, and as a consequence, she and her team suffered.
@@TAD-9what a stupidly spiteful act.
@@TAD-9 Sounds like Elon is going to get another visit from the NLRB then. That's not how HR works and I'm curious if you think that's okay.
The immediate step they took is to rehire some of the hired employees. LOL.
Huh ?
The 2nd to last guy says Elon playing 3d chess..... Hahahahaha
More like a pigeon strutting around on the chessboard.
I caught that as well, but that guy is the one playing chess. He’s hoping to flatter Elmo into giving him a big, juicy network build contract, and as dumb as Elmo is, I’d be surprised if it didn’t work exactly that way with him.
Elon Musk can do no wrong. Just ask Sandy Munro.
Elon isn't as smart as he thinks, but he's more evil than others think.
I'm wondering if he just purged a team that he saw as too much save-the-world and not enough make-me-rich.
@@AtomicBuffalosomeone in the comments elsewhere said he may have fired the supercharger team because of beef with the person who ran the division. I can't verify this, but the fact that this is a distinct possibility speaks volumes to the lunacy that is Tesla.
Elon just doesn’t seem like a guy you can trust. Amazing product but wrong leader.
Absolutely wrong.
How many billions have you earned? How many world renowned companies have you created? How many tens of thousands of employees have you had? Oh, none of these.
@@VaporheadATC True! But don’t know how that has anything to do with him being a trustworthy person. Cool story tho 👍
@@PatrickdaStarr Do you know Elon personally? What has he done that makes him untrustworthy? Without Elon, you wouldn't have Tesla, SpaceX, StarLink, etc. If he was a bad leader as you say, these companies would have been failures.
@@VaporheadATC I doubt you know him personally too. But it’s a little untrustworthy to fire your entire charging team when they are the ones who made Tesla as good and reliable as they are in the EV space today just to prove a point.
You don’t fire the entire team when your plan is to slow down the project. You fire the entire team when the project is being ended.
Have you Heard OPTIMUS?
Elon rehired the team back
Other companies maybe. Tesla doesn't follow the obvious rules 😂
He fired the entire team because he literally threw a tantrum
Elon about to hit the self destruct button and destroy all tesles
Elon Musk needs to just leave Tesla alone. Go focus on SpaceX, let somebody else more mentally stable to run Tesla.
Keep him on Twitter and away from SpaceX. Next thing you know, the rockets are going to be going sideways.
No. Please leave SpaceX alone. Let him have Twitter.
Musk's manbaby jealousy of Rebecca Tinucci is causing great harm to Tesla.💯
yeah, keep him at Space X blowing up rockets paid for by US tax payers, you sound smart.
The best thing for Elon is to get off Twitter. The guy has a colossal case or Twitter brain.
It appears to me this would potentially force the Big 3 to hire people from Tesla's team, effectively transferring cost items from Tesla's balance sheet to their competitors'
True. They all were irresponsibles at making ev , and not caring for their customer by not creating their own networks even do they ere makimng biullions , and Tesla was on the red.
Yeah sure losing your assets is ‘cost-cutting’ whoosh
Tesla is a pump and dump scheme. All executives and Elon already cashing out - he sold 40% so far I believe. But sure 😂
@@evapawlowska Like the news noted, agreements were signed between Tesla and legacy automakers to give each other access to each other's charging networks
@@rexiansayson lol and now those automakers will back out because he just fired his entire team
Teslas hiring? I just got a email today for a interview with new supercharging team... they must have restructured quickly.
Tesla would have to offer an insane amount of money to go work in a NEW Supercharger team, or you'd have to be insane to take the job. Either way, pure insanity.
Maybe the Ketamine wore off and Musk realized he messed up. In most cases a CEO would usually spin off and create a separate company for a a promising division like the Super Chargers.
@@guardianoffire8814yup. The leader was obviously doing a good job.
Lmfao more Like “going out of business”
Lol sure you did, champ.
Musk fanboys confused about how to defend the insane moves of the genius man-child 😅
Best Comment.
Dont bite the hand that feeds your supercharger
You’re out here criticizing his decisions when you’re here on TH-cam laying on your couch all day with a negative iq
I blame it on the drugs he’s taking.
I fully support Musk and Tesla, own a Tesla car, and own shares....but am critical of HOW Musk handled this. One can be supportive of Tesla/Musk and still find fault.
When your celebrity ceo has metamorphosed from nerdy fratboy to grifter junkie.... lol
The whole situation is just hilariously deplorable😂 😂😂😂😂
I think musk’s firings of the entire supercharging team was mostly an emotional outburst, and now he has to deal with the repercussions as best he can. I do not believe elon musk to be the “very stable genius” that his minions and supporters would have us believe.
Manic autistic businessman widely mistaken for gifted engineer
Stock price is down...you cut jobs.
Over think it!
simple business, it's costing more than it makes. Not rocket science 😂😂😂
Not emotions, drugs.
It keeps his employees in line. ;)
Elon took his ball and went home😂
More like he dropped the ball and fell into a k-hole.
and has now returned. You get the bad with the good. Thankfully there's much more good than bad.
@@zagreus5773 😂
@@dangrass 😂
Tesla seem to be losing control of their product, Cars are piling-up that all their locations. Dust covered cars at Many locations have no more room to store them. I know for sure that production at their Fremont ca. way down
BYD owns the global market and it's new Seagull EV is retailing brand new at $9,700. It's even being made in Mexico.
@@noneshere NO. BYD sell about 300K less ev than Tesla. They sell more cars because their car production is like 40% ev, 60^ hybrids. Hybrids are loosing terrain to ev in most countries around the world.
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Elon was probably in a manic moment when he decided this 😆
Nope. Genius. He doesnt need to spend money on charging to help everyone. hE doesnt have to clean other's yard.
This mass firing was an Elon temper-tantrum when Rebecca Tinucci pushed back on reducing her team by 10%. “No one tells Elon No!” And others at Tesla are now scrambling to pick up the pieces.
No. It was a very advanced desition. New people will be hired, and they will work with more efficviemcy.
Elon fanboys are high on their own supply.😅
He’s bipolar
Hope shareholders vote against his pay package and replace him with a more stable CEO. This shows how insane he has become the last few years
"masterful gambit sir"
like Starlink in 2021?
Lmfao @ the Texas dude who says Elmo is playing 3D chess. 💀💀💀
Because 2021 Starlink fired entire deision and they got better?
I bought Tesla because of the infrastructure charging network
Oof
Sorry bro.
I bought a 1996 lexus because of the gasoline infrastructure network
You'll be fine, they are not shutting down or stoping maintenance on supercharging network.
@@chakmisshahaha poor
There was a Bloomberg report showing that BP was offering to buy the supercharger network!
My immediate thought was someone is going to try to buy it and how fitting an oil giant is trying to buy the network lol
Remember when the late Queen Elizabeth recommended that every gas station should have a charging station for EVs. BP and Shell started implementing it. So if they were to acquire the Tesla network... It would be a big step towards that goal...
But then again, Elon has started hiring back some of the team members that were fired!
Having an oil company at the helm of an company/industry that undermines its whole business model sounds like a horrible move. They will likely increase prices and neglect or abandon the network. Shell here in Europe has some of the worst rates, prices and idle fees.
@@134343 Depends on where you get your oil, if you think you can STILL get oil, and that customers are sick and tired of buying your oil. They failed to stop EVs, and god knows they tried. But the 3 gentlemen behind the invention of the Lithium Ion Battery defeated them. And they know it now, so they're finally adapting. On the bright side, Saudis and Russians will go broke.
@@abassembatya I heard the same thing. He is rehiring the workers he fired, and giving them jobs in X. They are going to supercharge his online stupidity.
Can’t wait to hear what the strategy behind this move was
No damn way I'm waiting an hour just to wait another hour. Right now these just don't make sense.
I don't care about Tesla, but the charger network seemed like one of the few things that was going well.
I hope those Tesla charging network people get jobs with the competition.
I'd say they just became the most in demand people in energy business, actually.
But this is really the time when private, mom & pop businesses in your town have THEIR chance to compete and replace a giant company that made a mistake and an opening for them.
And maybe that was Tesla's plan. They sell the commercial scale hardware...
I bet that Rebecca's email inbox was loaded quickly after she lost her job. Hopefully EA brings her onboard.
BP Has offered to snap up anyone they can get hold of and will be rapidly expanding their network
@@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing Why speculate?
@@theodorehaskins3756 Because that's how investment and ventures work. Especially when there's data already corroborating the gains.
Elon to Tesla owners: I have your money and you don't. Tee hee !!!
One of the issues I don’t hear in this video, is that Tesla’s V3 chargers don’t go above 500V but NEVI funding used to state that a CCS charger must be able to charge “any CCS compliant vehicle” this is obviously indicated that you needed high voltage capability because a car without a voltage booster would be CCS compliant. But now the current language states that NEVI, “allows … other non-proprietary connectors so long as each DCFC charging port is capable of charging a CCS-compliant vehicle”
The change from “any CCS vehicle” to “a CCS vehicle” is small and feels pedantic but in the world of law it opened up tesla to not truly provide a quality public charging experience for every car.
good point of 1200vdc ( higher motor-V and density is better to a point but 48dc is safer for humans to accidentally come into contact with etc and insulation-etc ) ( or equivalent 3-Phase ) setup's and 500+amps
point is to be competitiveness on the roadways/longer-trips ( and completely dust it at home-charging-solar/home/city uses, and as home-storage/VTG user's ) with say my ( theoretical OEM-stock, it's not as im modified it with a 7-speed-etc ) 1970 charger
had this arguments with family members around converting/hybridisation of my classics/charger's and or buying a f150-BEV and being stuck with 240V/home-setting's but on a roadside break/tripping and not finding a good DC-charges etc, as well as warranty's/reliable and ( they thought the pack/car was only good for 50k mileage and 5 years after that = junkyard time ) pack-replacement's etc
The only reason to buy a Tesla is for the access to its superior charging network. Without that, there would be no reason to own a Tesla because, frankly, their cars are sub-par in regard to quality of construction.
Most Tesla owners never use a supercharger. My mom has used a supercharger once and has 11k miles on her car
What about FSD?
@@AlejandroHernandez-xi4vl A lie. Tesla has been promising FSD for many years, but never delivered. They have very sophisticated driver assist functions, but that's all. The cars still won't drive themselves, and it doesn't seem likely such a capability is coming any time soon. They drive themselves just well enough to encourage reckless driver behaviour.
I charge at home 90% of the time…as do most EV owners. For the occasional road trip, the supercharger network has never let me down. I’ve never even had to wait for a stall.
you clearly have never driven a tesla or owned one 😂
I am not ready to write Tesla's obituary yet; however, as a Tesla owner myself, I must say that the SCs, a distinct source of value, should be a greater priority for Tesla than diversifying their EV fleet into the Cyber Truck. They literally have the quasi-monopoly in the EV market due largely to their SC network.
Here's the dirty little secret about EVs and its not charge times or even infrastructure. You take a huge ownership loss when you factor in depreciation and insurance. You don't get an ROI on them for a while. This makes them unaffordable for the 90%....
@@Chad_Max Depreciation and insurance cost can change drastically quite quickly! They're part of growing pains and they'll get figured out over time.
Urm, gas cars don't exactly hold value, and there is no reason today for an EV hatchback to cost more than a gas one. High performance and SUV size is where EV loses economy of scale, but that is what automakers are building.
I've lost all confidence in Elon Musk, which means I've lost confidence in Tesla as a company as well. He's seemed increasingly unstable over the last few years; emotional, vindictive, distracted, possibly influenced by worse and worse company he keeps over time. I've been a supporter, buyer, and stockholder since the first Roadster, but I'm kind of bailing on Tesla at this point. Sold the last of my stock, and I'm not terribly interested in buying another Tesla. I'm trying not to hate on Tesla as a company even though Elon turns more into a dbag every day, but with the level of control he has and his decisions and maturity highly questionable of late, I have to take that into consideration.
I've seen like 2 charging stations where I am and they are only avaliable to residents at a posh apartment complex and at a business anly available to employees.
The Supercharging team is Super FIRED!
Hey I grew up by that Thorntons gas station
Imagine buying an iphone but asking your friend with an android to borrow their charger
oh good heavens noooooo!!! 😭😭 /s
They both use usb c now so it would work
I use an inductive charging pad at home. It works for both. Been using it for 8 years.
You had me until about the 15 minute point. After that it began to feel like there is a definite agenda.
Did anyone catch @16:30 water bottle exploded and startled the construction worker? 😂
I'm done with Tesla
You done with Elon
Musk: Look at me! I'm playing 3d chess!
Dealer: That's nice, sir. But this is a blackjack table.
Musk: Wheee!! Remind me again how the horsey-shaped ones move?
Can we all agree that 9 times out of 10 the person being described as playing 3d chess is just blustering through, making it up as they go?
Google “pigeon strutting around on chessboard.”
At Fastned in Europe I have the exact same experience with my CCS Fiat 500e. Plug-in. Wait a few seconds and charge. It’s very close to Tesla. That being said, I only drive Tesla in the US because it just works and there is less of a hassle with my european credit card acceptance. I just pay the bill a few weeks later
It is amazing how complex, expensive, and difficult the industry has made something that should be as simple as plugging in your phone. Different plugs with adapters, different apps for each station operator, different charging speeds etc. And with Tesla backing out it is only going to get more fragmented.
Perhaps EV and charging infrastructure manufacturers should collaborate on an API/protocol standard to use with ALL EV cars and charging stations.
Similar to how things like USB and DisplayPort have standards.
Note that NACS is just the connector. It’s not an API or protocol, as far as I’m aware.
They did it last year. The adopted the NACS (Tesla plug) and the SAE also make NACS their standard instead of CCS (approved very early)
well. its only and only US problem. The rest of the world decided years ago and uses one standard for all vehicle, inclusively Teslas vehicle and Tesla chargers (which have been opened to other brands since few years)
At 15.52 does that guy just call Elon Yolanda. Lol
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How does that dude have a headset that sounds like it creates audio from a Real Networks encoding from 1995?
This video is a little late, Tesla is already hiring back some of the supercharging team.
That’s true, but these videos take time to make so it was likely done before the news came out.
Some is the operating word.
It would be interesting to know the stock option parameters. The nature of option accounting is that “returning what was taken” would be a massive expense recognized. Even if he only brought back half, it might result in a huge increase in payroll expense that would have been ignored as “dilution” had he kept his cool.
Idiot move. Does Elon think these former supercharger employees -- now rehires -- will be loyal or as dedicated as they were before?
@@lamontjohnson5810 they probably got a decent severance and now get rehired. Idiotic move on the part of Musk, the hothead.
The fact that we are not holding companies accountable for the entire life cycle of their products is so insane to me.
And what exactly is the lifecycle of a car? An EV? Most modern vehicles aren’t designed to be repaired. They are just like smarts phones. You can have it repaired/replaced under warranty, and when that warranty is up, you might be able to find a third party, that can work on it. But eventually that phone, that car, will have depreciated in value so much that it doesn’t make any sense to fix it anymore. It’s rare that a parents phone is handed down to their child, as they are used to trading them in. And cars are becoming the same. Instead of handing them down, they are trading them in.
Makes no sense. Customers can do that already by way of purchasing decision.
This is why I don't buy products from companies run by erratic CEOs. I'm looking for long-term sustainability for my money.
I wanted want the cyber truck but this is making me rethink that...
Elon is walking proof that money and intelligence have zero connection. What an absolute clown.
Have you run an EV manufacturer before? Until you do, anything you say about Elon's executive decisions is equivalent to the rantings of an ant.
They got rid of the supercharging team because you can install them with 3rd part contractors. You don’t need salaried employees to do something a journeyman electrician can do.
He's surely intelligent, the problem is that he's also insane.
Other automakers need to build their own networks. If they rely on Tesla, something like will happen.
Yeah, I was thinking that when they said the CEO of GM is saying they will save $400 million by using Teslas chargers. I thought no, make your own anyway. Don't just ride their coattails. More chargers need to be made.
Tesla already said they will continue to expand the network and are spending 500 million just this year to expand.
This only hurts other auto makers, so this gives Elon some leverage with the Government he's often at odds with.
Yes, the large selling point for the Tesla is the charging infrastructure. But I’m surprised that the main headlines from a supercharger team being laid off is this equals the network will lose its competitive advantage. I think its way to early to tell if that will happen especially when there’s numerous reasons for doing this and many more avenues they could explore.
First IMO, they can simply slow down. Now that all their competitors have pretty much given up trying to replicate what they have. Opening up the supercharging network to car makers like Ford etc…was a real big win, instead of building quickly perhaps they can even focus efforts on more hubs at current locations and faster charging speeds.
The innovation doesn’t stop, it simply shifts. They have the blueprint for making these Tesla charging stations and I suspect they’ll even get some of these companies now wanting to use the Tesla superchargers to help build on their infrastructure too. But, that’s my opinion, we’ll see.
How anyone thought Musk was a genius is baffling beyond words.
Did you ever watched the SaceX landed a returning rocket. Did you just woke up after 50 years hibernation? Not feeling sorry for people like YOU!!!
What do you do for a living
He owns the commercial launch industry with SpaceX and literally built the charging network that other manufacturers are envious of. There's a reason you only want to road trip with a Tesla. Starlink is a major game changer too. Seems like a pretty brilliant guy to me
guy is a genius in sucking federal subsidies.
And you are a genius?🤔..😂😂😂
I have a feeling Elon has a plan.
Man, Hertz got out right on time!!!!!
Elon Musk has gone. insane. How else can you explain the move to layoff the entire Supercharging team? Why let go of your most competitive edge? No amount of money offered by BP would justify letting go of that crown jewel. Covid 19 finally got to Elon's brain.
A lot of his strategy never makes sense, untilllll like 2-3 years ahead. At least thats what I notice.
Or... he is way smarter than you and the outcome of this decision is not immediately evident.
Costs more than the revenue brings in.
At least Howard Hughes had the good sense to stay off Twitter
@@chakmisskeep believing his 4D chess plan sucker
I think the ketamine is affecting Elon's judgement. They could be the Exxon-Mobile of charging. It's nuts not to double down on the charging. You make money whether people buy a Tesla vehicle, Kia vehicle, Ford vehicle etc. Vehicle sales go up and down, have hot models and busts. The consistent money is in maintenance and charging. If anything they should have expanded the charging stations to include battery testing and replacement.
Battery replacement at a charging station? Do you realize how stupid yo sound 😆 as if swapping the battery is as fast as changing a double A
Charging stations also need to be designed with full overhangs to cover the full vehicle and charger from elements. Charging is like getting fuel back in the 80’s. Also, for those who pull trailers, there should always be a few designed to easily maneuver the trailer while still attached and charge, again, while under a full-sized overhang that would span a crew cab truck and the charger.
what kinda voltage and amperage are those things running at because ....250kw??? EACH???
Tesla’s super chargers are the gold standard manufacturers are making their EV’s adaptable to them.
If you had told me 40 years ago that a supercharger was something that sat outside of an engine bay, l would have laughed.
I don’t think this is a big mystery. By Tesla pulling back after the carmakers all switch to their network, it creates opportunity for someone else to capitalize on the coming demand.
Logically, a fired and partially rehired team, means now the team is less than super. Poignantly, renamed as "Tesla Charger team".
All the while he's begging for a 55 billion dollar pay package from shareholders after failing to make twitter profitable with the same approach. Keep in mind all the employees he's fired so far cost less than a billion per year in salaries. He has pumped the brakes on one of Tesla's few remaining sources of reliable growing income, all the while he's hemorrhaging market share to other EV makers because he's spent the past several years developing an insanely expensive niche pickup truck that the public has lost interest in, and seemingly has no concrete plans as to what to do for his affordable car or robotaxi. He hasn't so much as announced either and production is likely years away from that as history shows. I doubt Tesla will die but its future certainly doesn't look good.
Xchan is bringing down space karen
He's not begging just wants what was part of the deal.
Hard to make the case that people have lost interest in the CT when there are ~2 million orders, and they continue to be able to sell them at $20k over list. As for no concrete plans, you should probably defer making that judgement until after 8/8...when they plan to announce the new car. As for losing market share, well that's inevitable as BEVs increasingly replace IC vehicles....and not a bad thing. As for begging for a $55B pay package, I'd hardly describe it in this way. The guy has worked tirelessly for 6 years without getting a salary. When the $55B deal was struck, virtually nobody thought he would earn it....but he did....and made a whole lot of others rich in the process. With any luck he'll get the $55B reinstated, will continue to make Tesla the world leader in more and more sub-businesses, and shareholders will be rewarded handsomely.
@@dangrass 100 dollar deposits are not the same thing as orders. They are selling for 20k over list because there is a 20k "founders" fee on every model for a badge on the side and FSD which hasn't been enabled yet. Tesla's market share dropping is inevitable, of course, but is just another indication of its overvaluation. Also, I addressed the 8/8 announcement saying that it's unlikely that anything will ship anytime soon. I have a model 3 with FSD and can attest that it is good... but nowhere near capable of being a robotaxi. For a number of complex reasons, the Convolutional Neural Nets Tesla uses for CV cannot do long term planning like it would need to if Tesla wanted to solve that last 1-2% of driving scenarios that can't be trained. This is not to mention the myriad of other issues related to running a taxi service simultaneously everywhere in the US and the permitting, etc required. Also not to mention that it will probably take them years from the announcement to begin manufacturing anything, as is usual with Tesla announcements. And lastly, Elon absolutely does not deserve 55 billion dollars. I don't care if he met the goal he set for himself by inflating the stock price with false promises, he does not work 50 times harder than every employee he fired combined. If anything in recent years he has been a liability to the company.
@@dangrass
First of all, no one wants these battery vehicles whether its a car or truck! Both are failures. Look at the battery truck, it can't do what other normal HD trucks can, it leaks and rusts! So what people are announcing to the world is they paid over $100K for a clown toy battery truck that is basically useless for anything that one may use a truck for and there to show others how stupid they truly are!
In addition, Tesla as a company had huge help from the US government by way of the EPA fines levied on legacy auto makers when they failed to meet strict emissions standards that some bureaucrat just pulled out of their rear end! Tesla got hundreds of millions each quarter from these car makers for doing absolutely nothing while these other manufacturers suffered greatly!
As a TSLA stockholder, I will reserve comment. I might want to attend a SHs meeting in Austin.
What can u possible change
@@lifeofranco Took me a while to see what you were saying. Oh, don't rule out influence by a Stanford grad. I can produce change with facts and persuasion. In the spring of 2001 Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan was doing little qtr. point rate cuts when we had a recession on our hands. I denounced him in mails to Congress and a whisper campaign began there against him. SO, he started cutting a LOT, home sales, and prices, soared, including the value of my house. In 2004 I had enough equity to do a reverse mortgage, getting rid of my mortgage, four years after I bought the house. Since then, I've paid around $250 per month property tax and insurance. Fresno, Ca. See what I mean? The pen is mightier than the sword, someone said.
@@LoranHarding so u single handedly saved the country from Recession huh? Why couldn’t u do that again in 2009?
@@lifeofranco 2001 was a Fed soluble recession. 2007-2009 was a complex financial meltdown requiring historic intervention by the Treasury. I don't really claim devine powers, just a willingness to yell to the top and do it persuasively.
thanks for the housing crisis in 2007
Interesting documentary thank you.
We won't have to worry about superchargers, once Elon Musk gets the Hyperloop operational....
/sarcasm
Musk doesn’t care that a major reason for choosing Tesla over its many strong competitors is its charging network.
The charging network is there and it is growing. Only the less use charging stations will be sold (location and electrical conections, not the chargers) Existing popular locations wil, all be expanded. That will increase the efficiency of the whole network.
musk is a PR man purehype EVs
Like me. Hola como estas? Saludos desde latinoamerica
Selling vaporware is easy when where is no competition but now that other car makers have EV options it's only a matter of time until the DOJ drops the hammer on Tesla and Musk haha
lol, the hype train just derailed on Teslas. The depreciation on existing Teslas after reducing prices on new ones was crazy. If I owned one and that happened I'd never buy from that brand again...
@@Chad_Maxwhy? Becuase you’re poor?
@@luisleon4853 Hay muy pocos que usen el español en estos foros.. Like para ti.
There were no more toys left in the pram to throw out...
8:44 what's behind that fence?
Tesla says that it is still investing 500 million US dollars in the expansion of its charging network this year
Elon Musk says a lot of things.
The superchargers that they've installed are basically all that can be installed, the grid can't support any more. I work at a CDJR dealership and we have a $65,000 level 3 charger sitting in a shed because PPL can't supply enough power for us to install it. We purchased it in 2023 and we hope to have the results of the feasibility study by early 2025, if it can be done it will still take another 2-3 years and costs are unknown at this point
that's not true. There are loads of potential locations with plenty of power available....and the grid infrastructure is being rapidly built out.
Shhhh...you keep being distracted about EVs while crypto mining quietly gobbles down 10x as much electricity. But yeah, EVs are the problem!
I read that if all cars in US were EV the electric grid would have to be doubled.
@@SusiesRepeat Electricity generation has gone up by 60% since 2000. It will take decades for the gasoline fleet to dwindle to nothing. The grid will be fine.
My wife and I bought our first EV vehicle, a Tesla model Y, 2 days before he fired all the supercharger folks. A little worried now…
This is the same thing that happen to the first Automobile Companies. Now all the other Automobile companies want a piece of the EV Superchargers technology to integrate with their Automobile Companies.
Perhaps we have come to the point where other companies, like BP/Shell, will be able to pick up the slack. I don't see EV numbers doing anything except growing. It's not fair to expect Tesla to supply and maintain charging for the entire EV world worldwide. I have always said that Tesla is not a car company, but an energy company. This movement by Tesla does make me wonder if Tesla is now changing direction from energy to autonomy/AI/bots/compute. I think no matter where Tesla does go, it will be ground breaking and earth shattering. They just have to wait for the rest of us to get there. They got to EVs long before most of us were ready; and now that a lot of us are getting there, they are headed onward into the future again.
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IT WAS A CALIFORNIA DREAM. WAKING UP NOW, WASTED BILLIONS.
If the charging station business is really profitable, someone will definitely take it over.
It’s not profitable
How is it the gold standard when half of chargers don’t even work when you need to charge.
Forgive the dumb question, but is there a realistic chance that Tesla could go under at some point in the nearish future?
with Denholm selling stock like water, and Musk trying to screw 50 billion plus while laying off mega staff, yeah, yeah there is.......
Don't think so, like Luxury perfumes.
No cause their batteries are where the real money is
This whole thing is such a US problem. I doubt Europe will even notice anything changing. Plenty of other CPOs around that work just fine.
I really do think Elon just needs to take a few days with his younger kids and go Go-Karting or something.
The team couldn’t keep the current charging stations working properly. They will build a new team that is able to keep current infrastructure performing at 100%, and then they will expand it.
I love the Elon fan boys trying to cope.
Ya it's hilarious how desperate they are to not face the truth .
Watch me cope by buying more stock.... In 10 years I'll be 'coping' all the way to the bank.... LOL.
After looking into all these changes I'm excited. But that is because I LOOKED INTO THEM, and not let MSM tell me what to think about them... and even more so because fools don't understand and are taking the stock price DOWN! $TSLA SALE!!!
Mark the date and stock price people! See you in 10 years. 😆
PS
Yes, I'm TOTALLY calling you out on this. See you in 10!
The EV industry is new. How come a relatively new company can make the most popular car in the world (the TESLA Model Y) and additionally it has its own charging network? How come VW, Ford, BMW etc can’t do the same? Tesla is an amazing company in comparison to those car manufacturers who have been around for 70+ years. Your comment is immature and you are hoping for failure in what is essentially an American success story. A benchmark car from an upstart car manufacturer. Brilliant.
@@Nonya-uj2gv lmao, make sure you pick up some Trump NFTs too. I'm sure all of it will work out for you in 10 years . Tesla stock not incredibly overvalued AT ALL. Don't listen to anyone else, look at the cybertruck, clearly the company is UNDERVALUED... right? RIGHT?! hahaha
@@3shockarmy74 Yeah smart guys at the top of that company. They're now spending ad money to convince investors to give Elon a 50B bonus. Unfortunately they couldnt cut enough employees to fund it, sadly. What a success story tho.
This all but guarantees that EVs are not adopted widely in the US since competitors put their chargers in the wrong locations (i.e. not on interstates/hwys) and that 50% of those chargers don't work. I was waiting for Tesla network to be opened, but if they only have 5-10 chargers per rest-stop on I-95 those will be too full to make charging quick and efficient. I will stick with ICE because it still the fastest way to fuel my vehicle.
Easy to have low costs of construction when you simply don’t pay your subs and contractors lol
MASTERFUL GAMBIT SIR
Why would u want an electric car when the battery alone is 30k just to replace...hold this L😂
Right. Because total engine failures on modern internal combustion engine vehicles are much cheaper to fix and completely unheard of, right?
Looking at you, Volkswagen group TFSI petrol engines that give up after 50k miles.
Having a mercedes v8 63 AMG engine irrepairably break on you will run you a cool 60.000 bucks if you're unwilling to settle for a used engine that will still be bloody expensive.
And if you want to talk about total engine failures being rare and engines being fixable for much cheaper in most instances...
Well... It's the same with EVs if there's ever an issue with the battery.
Often times it's a just a handful of bad/fried/prematurely aged battery cells that brick an entire battery pack. Which is fixable.
With the right tools and the know-how. There just aren't many independent places specializing in EV battery repairs yet. Give it time, the industry is young.
Complete battery failures are at least if not more rare than total engine failures nowadays.
And a 30k repair bill for a new battery is basically just a product of greed and laziness on the part of the manufacturers and ignorance of alternative routes on the part of the consumer...
Whether you are for or against Tesla, rest assured that MSNBC’s reporting on this is going to be inaccurate.
I'm trying to learn about the story, do you have any contradictory claims or citable sources of inaccuracy?
I just ordered my new model 3 . It’s a company car and is costing me £120 a month less than my current model 3. I guess they can’t shift them and now I start to see why !
I hope the team that got let go, takes their knowledge and experience to build something newer and better❤
Bloomberg just dropped a article how Tesla has hired back 500 people that were laid off
funny thing...
why do people thing the superchargers are going away? seems like the media is always talking negatively on tesla because tesla doesnt pay the media PR money like other companies do lol.. The network is gunna be fine and its gunna be there. I have no skin in the game as i dont own a tesla (have a 13 mpg 4x4) but im able to see through the BS from the MSM...
Because they all hate Elon. That's really all. Any negative news about his companies will be broadcast far and wide.
And yet in norhwest chicago suburbs traditional gas stations are going up all around me like wildfire.
People forget that subordinate employees can be VERY loyal to their direct supervisor. They all could have followed suit with their supervisor, or just left if Elon singled out their preferred co-worker.
If the West wasn't so obtuse against Nuclear Energy, we by now could have synthetic fuels at reasonable prices, allowing to power cars already on the roads. As sending EVs back to obsolescence as a century ago.