Koussevitzky thought so as well. Good company. That DSCH had in his stores of powerful emotions as witness to the indescribable (with all due respect to Akhmatova, Yevtuschenko et. al.) madness of war, the Great Terror, the petty, incompetent apparatchik and cadre who could change a life...the despicable despot who could end it by raising his eyebrow or simply asking a question, all expressed with the rightful pride of a master craftsman of music (he should be forgiven for writing reams of music for the crapper i.e. to placate the "authorities", mostly) is as singularly remarkable as the fact that this same witness...this unsentimental, serious artist with a wicked sense of humor, composed such aural beauty as the slow movements to his piano concerti with a keystone cop soundtrack fragment chaser in his 1st. A miracle and a gift. All of it.
Without a baton, with only minimal gestures, this old-school master draws the performance of a hundred lifetimes from the orchestra. Of course, he would have rehearsed them to this point where he doesn't need to flail to draw their best playing.
30 years before this recording, when the Leningrad's orchestra had to create the symphony with Mravinski, in 1943, they were given 100 hours of rehearsal.
"...this piece of music captures the heart of war like nothing else ever composed...Stalin had wanted a triumphalist piece, to celebrate the growing tide of Soviet victory over the Nazis. But Shostakovich, though a Soviet patriot himself, had given the dictator something quite different-the greatest symphony of the twentieth century. And if the piece as a whole transcended the year 1943, the third movement did not. It was a pure, unalloyed, cold-eyed shriek. Terror and agony and heartbreak, captured in music." --Eric Flint, from his "alternate history" novel, "1632" (2000, Baen Books)
@@fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu I can't really say why Stalin was so afraid of assassination - I haven't studied the man - but given how many old comrades he betrayed, I can imagine that he feared being betrayed, himself. It's been said that after the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union, Stalin feared that his own cronies would arrest and execute him for his failure to anticipate or prepare for Hitler's stab in the back. I've often thought it would be the height of alternate history to imagine if Trotsky were still alive, Stalin was now dead, and the Soviet leadership ultimately turned to Trotsky to come back home and organize the nation's defense as he had once organized the Red Army to defend the Revolution in the Civil War. Talk about an unrealistic fantasy, but crazier things have happened.
@@cka2nd Trotsky hoped that he would come to power legitimately in this way. He called it the "Clemenceau Thesis." Of course we know what lengths Stalin and his mafia went through to prevent this thesis from becoming reality. When the crisis happened in 1941, there were no other leadership candidates available. Although he never actually planned it, Trotsky really should have carried out a military coup in the mid-20s when his leftist faction still had a lot of support in the armed forces. In retrospect we know that Soviet democracy was doomed, but he could have been a much better leader. However, I think he can't be blamed for not wanting to be a dictator. And if such a coup had failed, he would be blamed for triggering the purges.
Judging by Mravinsky's demeanour the performance appears to be going to his satisfaction. As well it might, it's absolutely brilliant. Total correctness and authenticity of feeling.
I remember waiting for the credits as they scrolled when this movie was on HBO (long before the days of looking stuff up on your phone, right?). It was critical that I found out what that brilliance was.
From beginning. No greenery. Concrete. Winter. Bleek. Hyper psychological paranoia. Systematic threat. 3:40, a glimmer of hope. An inner force. A warm face... maybe we could just... 4:42, hide you fool! Eyes behind curtains. Moving quickly... there, behind there... no... arghh!!
Good description of what really seems to matter in this music, more than all the analysis about war and dying soldiers. That´s too superficial for such a sensitive man as Shostakovich. His music distracts from that fact, I know. It sounds harsh, violent, abrupt but it just expresses the composer´s emotional state.
This piece and his Waltz #2 are pure masterpiece. I was ignorant to both these pieces until a few months ago. I hope I find further gems from Mr Shostakovitch!
That's the real Russian sound. So, in the case of Tchaikovsky or Shostakovich, it is painful to listen to them if the Russian sound is not produced in the orchestra. This is because the sound does not have a Russian feel. In particular, I hope trumpet players will learn what Russian sound is like through this video. The sound you make when you guys play a Shostakovich or Tchaikovsky symphony is so pretty and not deep.
The reason why these Russian orchestras sound SOOO GOOD, is because they play ahead of the beat. When an ensemble at the front of part of the beat, you are making the music happen instead of being lead.
@@grahamwilson1000 I know, right? I laughed out loud too! It's amazing how many of you don't know this performance practice when MGM, CSO, NYP, MSO along with big bands, been doing this since the '40's and y'all hearing it for the first time.
@@dasteufelhund Perhaps you've been watching TH-cam videos where the visual slightly lags behind the audio. I certainly have. I have played in and conducted many ensembles, including orchestra, and can assure you that it makes no sense to play ahead of the conductor. It would be chaos and make the conductor redundant.
All I can say is sucked into the violins. About time The Violas, Troms and even Timpani got more meldoy than you. And doesn't it sound so much better!!! :P The best bit is still the Xylophone because that's my part :)
Listen now, buddy, I will tell you a small musical story. From the beginning until 3:17 you see numerous cars driving to Moscow suburbs and arresting people in pitch black night. Arrests go through whole night and at 3:17 one individual is picked, he is nothing special but our look is now centered on him, he is grabbed by the hands by two agents and brought out in front of his building, but on the street there was no KGB car, the arrests were so intensive that car left with multitude of arrested citizens. So agents decided to proceed on foot. You could see that at 3:17. The day is dawning, sun arose gently and with sun in distorted Kafkian Moscow street at 3:36 towards agents the procession of workers holding communist signs is passing leaded by young trumpeter and brass ensemble of middle aged musicians, middle aged as the participants of processions, toothless and grotesque. At 4:35 the procession leaves the scene in one direction and agents and arrested citizen in contrary direction, towards sun, and as procession subsides between 4:35 and 4:47 our trio is lost on horizon of drawn out Moscow street, then our look is centered again, at 4:47, on even more brutal arrests where particularity of individuals means nothing, all we have is blind brutal force, picture of blind, passionless state violence, one that goes on and on and on... Once we think it has its course and that it cannot get any worse the violence at 6:06 takes that worse turn, we are dragged to a pit from 6:06 to 6:29 and at 6:29 we see mangled human bodies thrown into it. At 6:47 starts slow requiem for the dead, one that gives no consolation but just picture of death, panoramic view of dead people thrown in mass grave...
Interesting story. From what I've read, this movement is actually about his paranoia of hearing a knock on the door from the police. The "requiem" of the fourth movement is followed by a more optimistic fifth movement, where he is dreaming of freedom.
But TH-cam is already flooded same as everything else...and if you listen very, very carefully to birds singing in the spring evenings, you'll hear "Stalin bad...China bad".
Dear Tudor Tomescu, It depends, of course, on the aspects. There isn't anything absolutely "good" or "bad" in the art. The music is a subtil Matherie, so, it depends on the criterios of the "goodness of conductor". However, exactly this performance is considered the best one (even knowing that the quality of the recording isn't perfect). Maybe, you can check these videos to understand, why is he considered one of the best conductors of the XX-th century. th-cam.com/video/y3nfnC_6QNQ/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/emZCbkmjpCc/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/JPsF_8CcqNI/w-d-xo.html -- some extracts from rehearsals in the last video can be helpful. However, you haven't to change your opinion, because the personal perception is very individual. Sincerely yours, Ivan P
acoustic properties of the scene or recording equipmen or its placementt arent best there is some sound effect of basement however, the performance is great
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Dream piece. Shostakovich is so good to the viola section
This piece is so powerful that I'm pretty sure that it made something blow up at 6:47.
Probably one of the cannons used for the 1812 Overture the night before!
it s true , the trumpet is just epic ......
The trumpeter is rock solid!!!!!
Yes! All that power, sound, and energy. With an embochure as serene as a pond.
Probably the greatest 20th century symphony ever composed!
Yes! And criminally underplayed.
Koussevitzky thought so as well. Good company. That DSCH had in his stores of powerful emotions as witness to the indescribable (with all due respect to Akhmatova, Yevtuschenko et. al.) madness of war, the Great Terror, the petty, incompetent apparatchik and cadre who could change a life...the despicable despot who could end it by raising his eyebrow or simply asking a question, all expressed with the rightful pride of a master craftsman of music (he should be forgiven for writing reams of music for the crapper i.e. to placate the "authorities", mostly) is as singularly remarkable as the fact that this same witness...this unsentimental, serious artist with a wicked sense of humor, composed such aural beauty as the slow movements to his piano concerti with a keystone cop soundtrack fragment chaser in his 1st. A miracle and a gift. All of it.
@@danielkonstantinovsky108 More performances of recent vintage but still, your observation remains true.
Proably the greatest symphony of all times 🙂
10 is maybe kinda better though. Juss sayen
Without a baton, with only minimal gestures, this old-school master draws the performance of a hundred lifetimes from the orchestra. Of course, he would have rehearsed them to this point where he doesn't need to flail to draw their best playing.
I believe Shostakovitch had specifically composed this symphony for Mravinsky. Although I could be wrong : /
You just can feel the train bringing the prisonners to the goulag.
@@the_historian411 That's right! Shostakovich's dedication to his friend Mravinsky.
@@criticuskrimson3791 I'm glad, thanks for verifying it.
30 years before this recording, when the Leningrad's orchestra had to create the symphony with Mravinski, in 1943, they were given 100 hours of rehearsal.
Scarey. As it should be. Such a knowing simplicity to the conductor. Amazing orchestra and sound.
"...this piece of music captures the heart of war like nothing else ever composed...Stalin had wanted a triumphalist piece, to celebrate the growing tide of Soviet victory over the Nazis. But Shostakovich, though a Soviet patriot himself, had given the dictator something quite different-the greatest symphony of the twentieth century. And if the piece as a whole transcended the year 1943, the third movement did not. It was a pure, unalloyed, cold-eyed shriek. Terror and agony and heartbreak, captured in music."
--Eric Flint, from his "alternate history" novel, "1632" (2000, Baen Books)
It captures the evil of Stalin. He hated him and feared for his life everyday.
funny thing is that Stalin with all his power also feared for his life everyday and still hated people who were long dead..dude was miserable af
@@fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu I can't really say why Stalin was so afraid of assassination - I haven't studied the man - but given how many old comrades he betrayed, I can imagine that he feared being betrayed, himself. It's been said that after the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union, Stalin feared that his own cronies would arrest and execute him for his failure to anticipate or prepare for Hitler's stab in the back. I've often thought it would be the height of alternate history to imagine if Trotsky were still alive, Stalin was now dead, and the Soviet leadership ultimately turned to Trotsky to come back home and organize the nation's defense as he had once organized the Red Army to defend the Revolution in the Civil War. Talk about an unrealistic fantasy, but crazier things have happened.
@@cka2nd Trotsky hoped that he would come to power legitimately in this way. He called it the "Clemenceau Thesis." Of course we know what lengths Stalin and his mafia went through to prevent this thesis from becoming reality. When the crisis happened in 1941, there were no other leadership candidates available.
Although he never actually planned it, Trotsky really should have carried out a military coup in the mid-20s when his leftist faction still had a lot of support in the armed forces. In retrospect we know that Soviet democracy was doomed, but he could have been a much better leader. However, I think he can't be blamed for not wanting to be a dictator. And if such a coup had failed, he would be blamed for triggering the purges.
@@megabugginout 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
Never better. Totally overwhelmed.
Superb...and truly terrifying!
Judging by Mravinsky's demeanour the performance appears to be going to his satisfaction. As well it might, it's absolutely brilliant. Total correctness and authenticity of feeling.
6:47 Powerful! The double basses.
Love the glasses of concert master.
And the violinist behind him really looks like shosty!
@@osiantownsendjones2833 sort of
Course hypnotique à l'abîme.
Шостакович и Мравинский - это гениально. А оркестр!!!!!!
Потрясает всегда! Долгое нагнетание "ужаса нашествия" в Музыке , даже сжимает дыхание!
This has been my favorite symphony ever.
Constantly moving and yet marking time. Anxiously frozen in time and place.
La version de référence sans aucun doute !
Таинство в Храме искусства. Удивительная запись. Неповторимый Мравинский.
la référence et pour l éternité.
le plus grand chef de orchestre avec toscanini et furtwaengler.
"Fandango" parachute scene. Brilliance.
I remember waiting for the credits as they scrolled when this movie was on HBO (long before the days of looking stuff up on your phone, right?). It was critical that I found out what that brilliance was.
@@SometimesItsNice And Pat Metheny's music in the wedding scene and the aftermath. That was a great music-rich movie.
the trumpet player looks like Stephen Frye.
exactly the same :D
oh he does!
Omg 😂😂😂
めちゃくちゃかっこいい
3:39 trumpet solo
From beginning. No greenery. Concrete. Winter. Bleek. Hyper psychological paranoia. Systematic threat. 3:40, a glimmer of hope. An inner force. A warm face... maybe we could just... 4:42, hide you fool! Eyes behind curtains. Moving quickly... there, behind there... no... arghh!!
Good description of what really seems to matter in this music, more than all the analysis about war and dying soldiers. That´s too superficial for such a sensitive man as Shostakovich. His music distracts from that fact, I know. It sounds harsh, violent, abrupt but it just expresses the composer´s emotional state.
stupendo....grande personalità!!!!grazie per aver publicato questo video....
Didn't know Mr Stephen Fry plays the trumpet, as a pro too! So multi-talented. 😉
Hahaha...exactly my thought as well!
Sublime..gracias!¡!¡!!!
Just awesome.
Fabuloso
FANTASTIC 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻❤❤❤❤
Grand Yevgeny ! écrite en 1943, Leningrad philarmonic
I love when Dmitri goes full Khatchaturian
THE BEST!!!!! EPIC!!!!!
SUBLIMEEEEEEEPOR SIEMPRE...graxieee..!!!!!¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
COOLNESS
read the final battle of Moby Dick with this sound track.
This piece and his Waltz #2 are pure masterpiece. I was ignorant to both these pieces until a few months ago. I hope I find further gems from Mr Shostakovitch!
May I suggest "Valery Gergiev introduces" here on youtube.
Also search up Bernstein introduction these pieces. He gives great explanations about the history and background as well as cool interpretations
Opus 76 is quite fabulous. Especially the Theme movement.
Wow.
Trumpet - young Pinchas Zukerman
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Kafelnikov!
This mic is so tight. Up close. From a production standpoint we are up I. This
6:45
I love the bit where the ukelele plays a lovely song about shashlik.
Fantastic performance! what year is it from?
Best regards
Why is the entire performance no longer available???
It is now.
That's the real Russian sound. So, in the case of Tchaikovsky or Shostakovich, it is painful to listen to them if the Russian sound is not produced in the orchestra. This is because the sound does not have a Russian feel. In particular, I hope trumpet players will learn what Russian sound is like through this video. The sound you make when you guys play a Shostakovich or Tchaikovsky symphony is so pretty and not deep.
Трубач Кафельников украинец.
Splendid in every way - except for the audio compression.
lot of people don't know this song is about running from the cops. all of shostakovich music goes hard
The best performance, but where were the trumpets triplets...
The low brass should've picked better stagger breathing points...
“I guess you do this kind of stuff all the time being an Action Adventure Editor and all”..!!
👍
Formalist music!!
Did Stagefright (1987) bring you here too?
Does anybody know the name of trumpet player?
Vladimir Kafelnikov
Марголин раньше это играл еще интереснее.
See Fandango movie skydiving scene.
The reason why these Russian orchestras sound SOOO GOOD, is because they play ahead of the beat. When an ensemble at the front of part of the beat, you are making the music happen instead of being lead.
WHAT? You are making shit up on the spot.
wtf
Made me laugh out loud.
@@grahamwilson1000 I know, right? I laughed out loud too! It's amazing how many of you don't know this performance practice when MGM, CSO, NYP, MSO along with big bands, been doing this since the '40's and y'all hearing it for the first time.
@@dasteufelhund Perhaps you've been watching TH-cam videos where the visual slightly lags behind the audio. I certainly have. I have played in and conducted many ensembles, including orchestra, and can assure you that it makes no sense to play ahead of the conductor. It would be chaos and make the conductor redundant.
I miss Rostropovich.
Kакая песня!
6:06
６：４７
02:17
All I can say is sucked into the violins. About time The Violas, Troms and even Timpani got more meldoy than you. And doesn't it sound so much better!!! :P
The best bit is still the Xylophone because that's my part :)
Imagine playing this with a migraine
Listen now, buddy, I will tell you a small musical story. From the beginning until 3:17 you see numerous cars driving to Moscow suburbs and arresting people in pitch black night. Arrests go through whole night and at 3:17 one individual is picked, he is nothing special but our look is now centered on him, he is grabbed by the hands by two agents and brought out in front of his building, but on the street there was no KGB car, the arrests were so intensive that car left with multitude of arrested citizens. So agents decided to proceed on foot. You could see that at 3:17. The day is dawning, sun arose gently and with sun in distorted Kafkian Moscow street at 3:36 towards agents the procession of workers holding communist signs is passing leaded by young trumpeter and brass ensemble of middle aged musicians, middle aged as the participants of processions, toothless and grotesque. At 4:35 the procession leaves the scene in one direction and agents and arrested citizen in contrary direction, towards sun, and as procession subsides between 4:35 and 4:47 our trio is lost on horizon of drawn out Moscow street, then our look is centered again, at 4:47, on even more brutal arrests where particularity of individuals means nothing, all we have is blind brutal force, picture of blind, passionless state violence, one that goes on and on and on... Once we think it has its course and that it cannot get any worse the violence at 6:06 takes that worse turn, we are dragged to a pit from 6:06 to 6:29 and at 6:29 we see mangled human bodies thrown into it. At 6:47 starts slow requiem for the dead, one that gives no consolation but just picture of death, panoramic view of dead people thrown in mass grave...
Interesting story. From what I've read, this movement is actually about his paranoia of hearing a knock on the door from the police. The "requiem" of the fourth movement is followed by a more optimistic fifth movement, where he is dreaming of freedom.
You had a sip too much of western=fascist propaganda.
@@gorankatic40000bc But we already have too much of these songs, and none is about freedom.
But TH-cam is already flooded same as everything else...and if you listen very, very carefully to birds singing in the spring evenings, you'll hear "Stalin bad...China bad".
@@gorankatic40000bc They must be, as the song says.
☕🚬
Hay 7 sordos entre el público
All Stalin crimes made music... amazing Shotakovic.
Good joking 😢
It's Author's "Allegro NON troppo", but...What's an IMPRESSION
04:55 KGB in the background :D
El terror de Stalin con sus purgas
Mal filmé 🤪
Someone will probably kill me for it but this Mravinsky interpretation is seems a little too fast. Makes it less menacing, really.
this is my suicide note
***** You're into that?
I'm fourteen by the way, if you're into that that's pretty messed up
yeah cool man
It's not Mravinskij too fast, all the other directors are way too slow.
Never understood why Mravinsky is considered a good conductor....he is average in all the aspects...
Dear Tudor Tomescu,
It depends, of course, on the aspects. There isn't anything absolutely "good" or "bad" in the art. The music is a subtil Matherie, so, it depends on the criterios of the "goodness of conductor".
However, exactly this performance is considered the best one (even knowing that the quality of the recording isn't perfect). Maybe, you can check these videos to understand, why is he considered one of the best conductors of the XX-th century.
th-cam.com/video/y3nfnC_6QNQ/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/emZCbkmjpCc/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/JPsF_8CcqNI/w-d-xo.html -- some extracts from rehearsals in the last video can be helpful.
However, you haven't to change your opinion, because the personal perception is very individual.
Sincerely yours,
Ivan P
acoustic properties of the scene or recording equipmen or its placementt arent best there is some sound effect of basement however, the performance is great
Toccata!
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